Are Influencers Ruining Boxing?

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Also Thanks to ‪@TheWADEConcept‬ for the commentary!

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[@stephenalworth2103]

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[@w8ngr]

How did you get for your soul 😂😂😂😂

[@nolifemilo5574]

Yes they fucking did also can you try lucha libre

[@bodyboardingchronicles602]

Sir, who would you call out to BOX? You should pick fighter's to K.O. We want to watch.

[@sanyo_neezy]

thats actually pretty fun

[@CADClicker]

Boxing ruined boxing. Influencers are just walking around in the wreckage

[@Justin-xd7zj]

so true

[@SD-ym1rt]

Yep it's corrupt from the ground up

[@SD-ym1rt]

So is muai thai apparently

[@majaimay]

Amen

[@MsAdsdf]

True story 1st, we created all these different championship belts, then fights were avoided, and now all that matters is having an undefeated record, not actually being the best.

[@hard2hurt]

You absolutely picked the best guy in the world to explain this thing. Also Faze Sensei and W.A.D.E. are pretty smart too.

[@tristram0073]

Wades for sure a great bridge between combat sports knowledge and the influencer scene

[@thetalantonx]

What do you think of an influencer-boxing tournament circuit where you start with newer fighters and smaller channels and you have combat sports influencers like you and Seth training guys and trying to grow their channels at the same time?

[@robinkandra6855]

@@thetalantonx nah bro they have legit high level coaches Faze Temper have same coach as Deontay Wilder, KSI have coach who have trained David Haye, Dillian Whyte and other high level pros

[@stevetee7801]

The trouble I see with boxing is that there are too many promotions and no really rankings for the best to fight the best.

[@zacariasnelson5753]

I mean, they do that on purpose cause, I think, 80% of pro boxers have less than 3 losses

[@vagabondwastrel2361]

my problem with boxing has always been how shit the refs were and how the unions controlled the sport.

[@MrSirFluffy]

Boxrec does a good job of creating a ranking. People often complain about the multiple promotions compared to UFC. However, it boxing its better since the multiple organizations have come to an agreement that their fighters should box each other. Where UFC is NOT all of MMA. Strike Force, Bellator, One FC, and PFL do NOT fight eachother or UFC fighters. They are actually NOT fighting each other. People just have trouble seeing it that way. WBC, IBF, WBO, and WBA are different bodies that opened the gates between their champions and allow fighters to compete for other belts while being on their own ranking system. It would be like UFC allowing McGregor to fight on Bellator or PFL despite still maintaining ranking in the UFC. Over time people just got used to all orgs co-existing and see it as one thing when it's really multiple things. There are multiple belts in MMA and Boxing, only in boxing they do allow their champions to fight each other, though it can add a bit more paperwork to make it happen. Imagine the champ of UFC fighting the champion of One FC, imagine the headache both sides would have to deal with to make that happen. In boxing been streamlined, they created unified rules and over the course of decades they just allowed it to be a normal thing.

[@Dracon7601]

The rankings you use are ring rankings to determine what boxers are considered the best in the world in their weight class. The problem is that corruption is way too common on boxing and there is a monetary incentive to avoid being undisputed champ due to sanction fees.

[@vagabondwastrel2361]

@@Dracon7601 Just compare Bob Sapp and Mayweather. Sapp took dives all the time and nobody really cares. Maywaether's opponents take dives and it just feeds into the boxing hype on both the mayweather fangirls and the haters. I just see the corruption and check out. In general I want three things fixed in professional fighting. an acceptable roid for fighters to use so they stop experimenting. second do frequent weight checks to prevent the extreme weight cutting/rebound that gets fighters killed/injured more often than crossing weight classes. third punish refs publicly for bad calls and weight the replay over the in the ring ref. Baseball has this third problem in spades with their shit umpires getting call wrong almost intentionally. those three things would fix most sports in general.

[@DumbFroggg]

It’s interesting to see FaZe Sensei’s analysis on influencer boxing, that it’s for fans of the influencers, not fans of boxing, which makes is clear why so many people who aren’t fans of the influencers just call it stupid. Overall it seems pretty harmless.

[@DeathxThexKid100]

Well, it *seems* pretty harmless at the moment. On the bright side, it's bringing *some* attention back to boxing. Whether that's positive, we'll have to see. Overall, I'm going to assume that boxing is slowly going to turn into: "Got a grudge? Settle it in 5 rounds or less! Try boxing!" Which, I hope no one does, but that's the impression I get when I see influencer boxing/combat sports. Just a popular grudge match.

[@DumbFroggg]

@@DeathxThexKid100 Yeah, that’s one thing that could have a negative influence. If they aren’t legitimately testing their skill as someone trained in boxing who enjoys the sport/art, then there’s a big possibility they’re fighting just for their pride and emotional motivation. Then again, there was already a lot of that in boxing anyways.

[@DeathxThexKid100]

@@DumbFroggg Correct, there's a lot of ego in combat sports. Love for the sport... depends on the practitioner, but faith in thier art I will agree on. But here's the thing, traditionally the fighters have earned thier skill, and have bested others who have done the same. And that's how these athletes earned thier fans. The problem now is, these individuals have no skill, already have the fan base, and the outcomes are bigger than ever. It doesn't just affect boxing is what I'm trying to get at when it comes to celebrity/influencer combat sports.

[@DumbFroggg]

@@DeathxThexKid100 Fair point!

[@thetalantonx]

@@DeathxThexKid100 I honestly like Streetbeefs as a legit way to settle scores with some sort of framework and safety, and that it's turned into an amateur promotion for people to get some fighting experience too is a bonus.

[@Sceadusawol]

My concern with influencer boxing is that it demonstrates something people like to pretend doesn't exist any more: a primal urge to see violence. Wrestling has its kayfabe and sports combat is largely about skill, but people sometimes just want the thrill of gladiatorial violence. No consideration for skill, just the pure, unadulterated joy of watching someone get the snot kicked out of them.

[@raiderbro8663]

absolutely correct. same reason why boxing has hardly any following yet fight of the year rolls around everybody acts like they've been fans all along so they can give their "expert" opinion

[@mateuszgorecki6848]

Nothing wrong with that,especially because its still under the sport rules.

[@mateusmachadomartinsjunior4309]

thats why mma surpassed boxing i think

[@david7384]

Why is that concerning?

[@Ricky-1]

@@mateusmachadomartinsjunior4309 that’s definitely why it’s more entertaining to watch ground and pound than two people standing still for 10 seconds looking for safe hits

[@PeterFendrich]

What used to bother me wasn't so much the fighters themselves, or the fights themselves, but the fact that I felt like while I was glad they got their shot, you couldn't help but think popularity was helping them jump in line, to get these more promoted fights over people who were in the gym doing the grind. But then I realized, that's always been the case though. It's naive to assume that the champion of any given bracket is actually the best fighter in that bracket. Self promotion has always been a huge part of boxing, becoming somebody fans wanted to see, somebody who official promotions knew they make money putting you in the ring... And yeah there needs to be talent there to back it up, but ultimately showmanship has always been a part of the sport. So on that level, I guess that's just the way the world is, and this is the way that people promote themselves now.

[@baddestgamerr]

Seth is technically a influencer martial artist

[@swordpvnk]

That's the difference between Seth and those others. He's a martial artist.

[@baddestgamerr]

@@swordpvnk ok and

[@kevind3974]

@@swordpvnk same thing different name.

[@swordpvnk]

What I'm saying is he has trained, and they have not. He actually knows how to fight...they do not.

[@baddestgamerr]

@@swordpvnk but they do train. Yh some of them don’t take it seriously but they’re the ones that lose to the ones that do train properly. Let’s be honest Ksi trains harder then Seth.

[@Deaf_bro]

Great video Seth . I want to suggest a video idea if u don’t mind. The idea is like telling us how to tell whether a dojo is a right place for you or not , like the red flags in a dojo.

[@TBButtSmoothy]

watch mcdojolife

[@TheElbowMerchant]

Sensei Seth has collaborated with another channel called McDojo Life, which has a really good set of criteria for whether a dojo or gym is legit or not. Hopefully Seth himself responds to your suggestion, but if not, give McDojo Life a look.

[@vagabondwastrel2361]

The top one is if they don't spar.

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[@lifegiveslifeto]

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[@escesounds.8916]

Influencer boxing is basically Celebrity Deathmatch irl

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[@AvarageYakuzaEnjoyer]

I have no idea how people can stand mainstream influencers and this whole culture let alone like them.

[@allbthatmom2153]

Maybe bc they arent wannabe tough guys such as yourself

[@AvarageYakuzaEnjoyer]

@@allbthatmom2153 unsure what you are talking about, I just find them annoying. Them being just loud and as unintelligent as much as possible non stop is as far from appealing as it gets for me. Im not looking for any sort of refined content from them, but even just for casual entertainment they are still far too moronic and irritating.

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[@kingartifex]

@@allbthatmom2153 somebody is triggered...

[@sugacanebeats17]

@@allbthatmom2153 what are u talking bout Lol their major wanna be tough guys

[@GilGamesHello]

No Chubby Surprise? You went easy on him! George Foreman said boxing is like jazz, the better it is, the less people appreciate it. Basically, some people just want to watch others get rocked and don't really know what they're seeing, just that it's exciting. Remember when Jake Paul flattened Nate Robinson? Snoop was memeing it up but Kellerman had to remind us that someone just got their head bashed in and went to sleep.

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[@thetalantonx]

Hey! It was great to see W.A.D.E. in here! That was quite a bit of fun to get some inside on what brings analysts in and the benefits they can provide. I like watching people compete far above my level, whether it's chess, or boxing, or chessboxing. So having Levy Rozman (Gotham Chess) providing commentary on the influencer chessboxing was fantastic.

[@adamn_patriot8420]

Keep up the good work, Love your content homie.

[@TheWADEConcept]

Such a good video

[@SenseiSeth]

Thanks for your help bro!

[@El-Burrito]

I didn't watch Ludwig's Chess boxing but I really enjoyed Creator Clash. It inspired me to want to take up boxing again. Can't wait for Creator Clash 2!

[@thedoc99]

Yeah chess boxing seemed very gimmicky, but creator clash seems way more serious and respectful to boxing. I'm really looking forward to the second one

[@nuclearmudking7497]

I’m glad you got Wade and Sensei on to explain some of the intricacies of influencer boxing At the end of the day, it’s done wonders for the sport and it’s been amazing to see more eyes on boxing, especially after having the golden years of megastars fighting each other and essentially having that ripped from us by promotors who created an environment where non-perfect records get shunned despite their abilities Everyone gets a shot in influencer boxing, and JJ has encouraged people through his own determination to actually train well and be proud of themselves. Early influencer boxing was more about clout and money, but now, a lot more people (even those who fought through the more money hungry stages of it) want more skilled fighters and want to see these fighter grow Regardless though, I think it’s a good thing, sure I wish they stayed as amateurs but I think it’s ultimately a good thing. I can understand the change to pros but either way, I’m proud of what they’ve done. Especially with people like iDubbz raising money for charity and Ludwig putting chess boxing to a wider audience. As an amateur boxer, the space is much more fuller and alive with the combination of my fellow amateurs, as well as the pros, past and present, and influencer boxing with creator clash, misfits etc. It’s definitely done a lot of good for those influencers and a lot more for the community as a whole. A lot of people have grown well from this and I’m glad. It’s definitely not the same as pros and more people would agree but it’s definitely doing things a lot better than certain pro promoters, which helps demand more from promoters for more super fights. Tldr: influencer boxing over time has done more good than bad for boxing I think

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

Hmmm no influencer boxing is a joke

[@nuclearmudking7497]

@@nonamewillbegiven1217 why?

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

@@nuclearmudking7497 like that gotta be explained to you pea brain

[@MrTheil]

Holy shit I wasn't expecting Wade to show up lol

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[@yancarloreyes6724]

It’s doing the same thing it did to the skateboard community. Good skaters with unfortunate situations that completely give everything to the sport get overlooked because of flashy influencers who just know how to do 5 sloppy tricks. All that just because of their following, it’s a new world but damn dude.

[@allbthatmom2153]

Yeah but also ppl shouldnt not do something just bc it “takes away” from what professionals do

[@AMV_KINGDOM_mv]

Ehh boxing itself isnt as good as you think it is with it basically being corrupt with fight dodging and undefeated title being abused tf out of

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[@granddaddy_funk]

Like Vinny Banh

[@gabrielluimeme]

Boxing/fighting has always been entertainment. That's why Mc Gregor is so famous. + With influencers you already have the back stories. However for now it's a very US thing.

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

Influencers are not good entertainment

[@savemgs]

No the athletes themself did that themselves by not boxing each other when it actually matters.

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[@honkler1443]

It was cool of you to make the spar into the vid, you did good, I like when you're doing actual good fighting, you don't show us too much of your fighting skills to be honest, it is good to watch

[@Fisker94]

Great video! Loved the commentator aspect. Its nice to get an outside view. Keep up the great work Sensei, ser

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[@paparen1937]

man a collab between seth sensei and a cameo by wade deserves way more views

[@ianmpena]

Hey Seth can you create a video about different types of kickboxing like Muay Thai and American kickboxing and sanda and dutch kickboxing and create a new video about Muay boran and taekkyeon and animal style kung fu

[@shanejones2344]

I mean think about the stuff influencers used to promote to their young, impressionable audience. Partying, drinking, hookups, etc. Now they’re promoting combat sports to that same audience, something that massively improved my life and at least partially led to me being a fulfilled and happy adult. I’ll consider that good development honestly.

[@theironfox2756]

They should use MMA gloves and Sanda rules. Sanda rules look more like movie fighting.

[@charlesdourado8292]

Sanda is really great, i don't know why is not more popular

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[@evmarekaj]

Imagine if reporters actually let their audience think

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[@stevenevenshow2790]

I think it brings interest to regular boxing and boy do we need the casuals. Also, I think it's fun to see these guys progress and have fun and respect the sport. At least with Creator Clash, perhaps not so much the misfits

[@sherlock4791]

As a lifelong boxing fan i totally love the influencer boxing I have super low expectations on anyone ever on the inf boxing, and even the simplest double cover can amuse me I really like how they sell the fight, the trash talk and everything, also the fight is "nothing to lose" on my book as a viewer If its bad I will just said to myself, they were youtuber afterall, and just train boxing for few months/weeks And if its even a lil bit decent, it actually entertainment and got me excited +The no big name clash in pro boxing got this inf boxing kinda "lucky" for the timing

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

You are not a boxing fan

[@camiloiribarren1450]

I wouldn’t say that influencers are ruining boxing, I think politics ruin any martial art. Influencers PRETENDING to be boxers make true boxers look bad, while boxers who know what they’re doing and make influencing videos about it make boxing even more appealing by spreading it around the world

[@thatoneguy5969]

The reasons people enjoy influencer boxing are more or less the same reasons people enjoy pro wrestling. It's all about the story and how it leads up to the performance.

[@sugacanebeats17]

8:28 i legit thot the runescape login music was bout to start playing

[@christopersambeli6566]

Great interview

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[@saure22]

Seth x the breakdown is the colab we needed.

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[@wokjock]

Nope. Get more kids training. It can only be a good thing.

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

No it's not

[@evhiga2715]

wade and sensei being here was crazy cool

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[@danielbuhr4260]

Great video Senseis

[@jamessalt2304]

Only just heard of you. Great video mate

[@phantasmik000]

Great video as usual, I've always enjoyed watching boxing but seeing youtubers with no background in it start training and fight in matches made the sport seem a little more approachable to me which inspired me to start training at a local boxing gym. Boxing has been a really positive thing for my life and my health; its also really renewed my interest in the sport; I probably would not have tried out boxing otherwise so I guess I have influencer boxing to thank I also started watching your videos after I started training so I guess in a way you do too 🤣

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[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

What a joke

[@charlesfieltesjunior4381]

Your boxing is looking good! Congratulations

[@stol908]

Sensei Seth i would love to see video about styles like muay boran or taekkyeon

[@gagetaylor192]

At the end of the day because these people are all already well known influencers they bring an audience to boxing that wouldn't have been there otherwise. It's a lot like music as an example. It doesn't matter where you saw/heard it from, people passionate about that thing should be happy that the person found it period. These influencers have arguably brought millions of new spectators for boxing and boxing enthusiasts should be stoked for that. Everybody wants the thing they're into to be more popular.

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[@Wingzero90939]

Not to mention when it comes to music, most professional singers making a ridiculous amount of money are not highly skilled/technically gifted. I mean, if you look at any high end/famous orchestra all of those people are ridiculously talented. Yet, they make nowhere near the amount of money Katy Perry does. Being the best at whatever your chosen field is, doesn’t mean you make the most money. Even when it comes to TV and movies the Rock is a horrible actor compared to Ewan McGregor, Pierce Bronson or Tom Hanks, yet he makes way more money.

[@bahshiba7367]

I don't pay much attention to the influencer boxing thing, however I will say I don't think it's a bad thing. It draws more eyes to it boxing (even if it's only for the influencer themself) similar to how McGregor did for UFC. There are also tons of people who are passionate about this, I reckon it also encouraged more people to go and try out boxing or maybe other martial arts which I think are all good things. This was a cool video to see, the commentator over the spar session was great and entertaining as well, props to WADEConcept.

[@AvarageYakuzaEnjoyer]

I think a counter argument for this would be that even having some of these utterly moronic influencers associated with the sport gives it a worse name especially in the case of professional fighting which is already, debatably somewhat rightfully, considered to be filled with simpleminded barbaric violent idiots.

[@bahshiba7367]

@@AvarageYakuzaEnjoyer Very true, but also people wanna see the aforementioned morons beaten up, so it's even more of a draw. They could also be playing into a character similar to Colby Covington. That said, there are some unsavory characters in all combat sports, however there are also some overwhelmingly good people Just gotta take a little A and a little B I suppose.

[@How23497]

I can attest to this, I became a fan of combat sports as a result of the KSI vs Joe weller fight. It definitely brings a whole new audience that boxing could not reach previously

[@inversion9651]

@@AvarageYakuzaEnjoyer Not a lot of people consider boxing to be for barbaric idiots, those people aren't even going to be boxing fans. Pro boxing is still going to be as big as ever, but youtubers also have their own boxing scene with their own audience. Besides, a lot of the Misfits fighters fight skillfully. and KZbin boxing has evolved to a point where you have to have at least decent boxing or else you'll just get embarassed. It's rare to see youtubers fighting without some level of practice. Besides, potential casuals who can look into boxing will most likely watch Canelo, Tyson Fury, Spence, Crawford and Davis vs Garcia. KZbin boxing fans are younger and watch for the youtubers.

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

​@@bahshiba7367it's comical you compare those clowns to McGregor

[@nickegbg]

ofc the faze guy is gonna love it, its how he makes his living

[@areallybigdwarf4560]

it's funny for mike to say that, i found his channel from his fight on street beefs.

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[@loganrozanski8070]

seth i love your videos i watc them all the time

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[@eduardoramirez4768]

You should get in on this seth I would actually watch you in an exhibition lol

[@YaJasha]

As a boxer myself, the problem I see with influencers boxing is that they make it pass as if boxing was a game, while in reality all it takes to ruin your day or, worst case scenario, your life, is one well thrown punch in the head or just in the solar plexus, and since they all lack in basically every part of boxing, Defence, Offence or just foorwork, also I've yet to see someone counterattack or just dodge an attack... however, you understand the risks are even higher, other than that the only positive thing about it is that they bring more money and attention to the noble art, but it is not really worth it, in my honest opinion.

[@zanguzao]

They taint the beautiful sport

[@inversion9651]

@@zanguzao Not the Misfits fighters who fight professionally.

[@inversion9651]

The Austin McBroom vs Gib fight involved counter-attacks, Misfits fight are more professional though.

[@ybu22z]

Absolutely seamless segues into the promotions. 🤣

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[@AlexisC77]

Wade commentating the spar makes this so much better and Icy Mike is trippin…. Matter fact, Icy Mike should do it!!!!! Hard2Hurt vs fight tips

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[@DontcallmeLink]

The answer to "Are influences ruining [insert thing here]" is always yes.

[@lukeking1914]

It is crazy how much faze makes a year but also even more crazy how much money they lose and are one of the most down orgs stock wise rn

[@charliemcbroom2674]

Great video Seth, I class myself as a boxing fan, watch it most weekends and I actually enjoy most of the influencer boxing. Would you ever consider fighting on one of these shows?

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

You are not a fan

[@archfiendkaguya6213]

like another dude said this is similar to skateboarding community. But i like to see it differently. Yes there will be flashy people taking over the sport making the some of OG'S eat their dust due to it. But i also like to see the aspect of them popularizing the sport (more than it is. mainly to the youth though) to many. Many see boxing as nothing more than violence, but only those who step in to fight or spar knows how amazing it feels to be in that moment trading with someone. im happy these influencers are shining light one a beautiful sport.

[@archfiendkaguya6213]

i may have people disagreeing with me, but I always see the positive aspects in things. just means more people in the pool of boxing for me to come in contact with! (:

[@MrBbpilot]

I hope to see some influencers make the transition into MMA if the training is more consistent. I think FaZe Sensei made a really valid point that got overlooked in my opinion. They have money, time, and freedom to pursue this. For them it’s another thing they can just do for content, and heavily invest themselves into. Also, most popular content creators already work almost 12-16 hour days either streaming, editing, or filming. So I couldn’t imagine that they wouldn’t have the work ethic either to become somewhat successful.

[@aureum7479]

They would get killed in the octagon

[@Kilsangamming]

@@aureum7479 some have already tried mma and are doing ok, ie. JMX its low level MMA but its a start.

[@johndoe39322]

​@aureum7479 some people like logan have an extensive wrestling background he finished 5th in Ohio his senior year and are probably on the same level in boxing as most mma fighters. You add some kickboxing and BJJ and you have a good MMA fighter

[@Wingzero90939]

@@aureum7479hey are also ridiculously, rich, any sport they wanted to do they could hire the best people to train them. They don’t have to go through the struggle of the amateurs and grinding. They can just hire the best coaches in the world. Not to mention that plenty of promoters would see $$$ so they will be able to get plenty of soup cans as they are climbing up the ranks to beat easily.

[@zellioncustomer7803]

Sensei cheeked up.

[@45Redhood]

Tag team boxing, LETS GO!

[@astralkinetics]

Great video

[@Maddoxg1]

What would bring back fans and make boxing great again is if more of the best faced the best.

[@mateuszgorecki6848]

We have simmilar concept in Poland but much more developed and most of the fights are within MMA or K-1 rules. And not only typical influencers are fighting, for example we had guy who did 5x ironman or legit professional fighters(pro boxers,former KSW champions,UFC veterans), fighting much larger opponents with lesser skill.

[@zayonhotz5828]

it makes sense in a way coz these are ppl that have a fan base and are known already so for their fans to watch them fight is prolly pretty cool but it sucks that fighters don’t have the same fan base

[@coolworms7297]

my main issue with it is that they're low skilled, and theyre just allowed to get proper fights and promotions, whereas everyone else has to actually work hard to get there, if that makes sense.

[@Underdogg333]

Aye Faze Sensey 🔥🔥

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[@CJKilworth]

Right, I’m 3 months behind. Lots of video to catch up on, let’s go!

[@notbrian6805]

Ain't no way you got Wade for the commentary too

[@justinalexander5959]

I just wanted Seth to do more Boxing rounds, I like how he moves as a bigger guy

[@mawuigithagoat]

You should totally react to some of these influencer fights over at the reaction channel! (ones that are worth watching ofc) if i can make a small suggestion some fights i would recommend watching are KSI VS Faze Temper Salt Papi VS Josh Bruckener Dean the great VS Walid Sharks King Kenny VS DK Money

[@robertsuter8997]

Well if it wasn’t for creator clash I wouldn’t have gotten more interested in martial arts, and wouldn’t have found your channel and wouldn’t have learnt a whole lot that I have from not only your channel but Icy Mike, Jesse Enkamp, Wonderboy and a tonne of others. So if for nothing else I think it’s good for people to gain an insight into this world and possibly stick around and learn a thing or two.

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[@soiboi685]

Nice to see all the Micheal clips being used even tho he'll never box again

[@wrestlingwithjay3770]

Awesome ❤

[@mausbible]

damn i didn’t know sensei had all that behind him 😫

[@ninjaguysith]

There are those who enjoy the sport and there are those who enjoy the spectacle. I think the spectacle can be a good thing sometimes. It can turn people on to a sport that they wouldn't necessary get into. Pure sport or pure spectacle on both ends of the extreme are not going to be popular. There's a balance that can be struck by a few organizations to please all the types of fans.

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[@somebodyoncetoldme1704]

Can't wait for the froggy fresh fight.

[@eyedocduncan]

Sensei Seth you looked like you have lost quite a bit of weight in the last year. Definitely looking leaner. Hope this is by design not illness. Love your videos.

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[@ronaldhobblesteincool]

Influencer boxing isn't bad for boxing because it brings new eyes to the sport that may become interested in traditional boxing and it honestly does no harm as they are in their own bubble

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

That's dumb

[@peterhardiman7333]

Seth gonna start releasing full videos of him playing competitive "Fishing Clash", would do anything for a live stream....

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[@SuperVilliany101]

Seth you should hop on a Misfits card you’d do tremendously well.

[@EL-CUCUY310]

I haven't been so disappointed in boxing as I have been for the past few years

[@UlfHeartEater]

Well in Poland there is Influencer MMA promotions, biggest being Fame MMA. They event tried to do one promotion on UK, bit it failed. So topic of famous tik tokers fighting is very popular worldwide.

[@KingJinzo2125]

Why did it take so long for the 2 senseis to collab?

[@tenguken847]

I feel the influencers, are keeping alive, the Rocky Balboa dream...from chump to champ...or at the least, show how much heart they have enduring the grueling grind...glad to hear you found more "feeling" in boxing🙏🏼, and that you noticed a difference in your levels, from "rock'em sock'em robot" to a more mind free flow and into the feeling, the less the mind gets stuck, the smoother everything is✨

[@jeanismael1753]

LOL

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[@inversion9651]

@@jeanismael1753 He's right though.

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@@inversion9651 LMAO

[@inversion9651]

@@jeanismael1753 Pro boxing is getting dull and influencers are making boxing more popular, they are training and boxing seriously as seen on Misfits and they aren't stealing fans from pros since they have their own audiences.

[@trinidad510]

Who else thought the thumbnail was Steven Strangles People?

[@ferbadcompany1499]

KZbin and influencer people trying to box get more young people to practice and search more of the sport (in my perspective as a young man this is great)

[@hypnoticskull6342]

The only reason I hate influencer boxing is because most of these guys don't care about boxing too much, and I know that I probably won't be able to get there even if I'm more skilled. Guess that's life. FaZe Sensei is actually a guy who cares and is good

[@ElDrHouse2010]

1:15 Seth are you playing those tracks on propouse because you know gamers will watch these vids? I recognize that song remix vaguely from some of the Megaman X games. I don't know if its Megaman X 1, 2 or 3 though.

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[@arandomdonor3577]

I wish they'd do Influencer MMA instead, would be so much more fun to see, also Jake wouldn't have been able to call out any MMA fighter no matter how old they are (Askren chokes him, Woodley chokes him, Silva violates him, even Diaz would end him).

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[@adamtaylor1593]

You’re right but there’s too many disciplines to learn in mma, where as in boxing they can focus on getting good at one element of fighting and get better at it quicker

[@lightdarklightdarklightdark]

from the faze new york house to here

[@makenjikarate]

Great video, personally I'm of two minds. Influencer boxing has brought a whole new generation of boxing fans to the scene. But on the other hand, professionals and original boxing enthusiasts don't like all these people coming in, training for a while then fight and earn more than most skilled boxers.

[@Diego-fy6qz]

thats not entirely true. many pros and legends have grown to welcome it

[@Boyetto-san]

I never really cared about the influencers that get into influencer boxing, so of course my first reaction is that it's somehow wrong. But in the end, I'm also acutely aware of just how much the 'professional' in any professional sport relies on marketability and not just pure competitive skill. It's why there's the saying that what separates a pro from an amateur is that the pro needs to make money from fighting. Whereas amateurs are in fact the ones who can afford to purely care about being a better fighter. And it's actually something to learn from pro-wrestling: it may not be real fighting, but it really condenses down the promotion-side reality of having to build characters and stories that can draw an audience and make money. Ironically, pro-wrestling these days is far more transparent and honest about that than most other professional sports, including MMA.

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

Pretty sure pros goes for titles

[@beatonthedonis]

Money and greed ruined boxing, as they will eventually ruin every professional sport.

[@salvsays]

Honestly i think influencer boxing is an evolution of the sport. Its coming from the wrong direction, from influencer to boxer, but if you grabbed two boxers, that make some type of content, and you create a rivalry not just in a match but over the course of several months, all their content revolves around fighting the other guy even tangentially it would create such spectacle when they do finally clash. Boxers and professionalfighting already have this sort of gimmick with press conferences and weigh ins. Its just an evolution of that. Unfortunately influencers started it first. But i think professional fighters could very well adapt this, become full entertainers the way the rock and john cena used wrestling to break into acting. Fighters could use fighting as a entry way into youtubing. Vlogging. How tos. Random IRL stuff bc at some point you follow them for the fight and then youd start following them just to see them have fun on a vacation. Etc…

[@alanaloken954]

Wow that’s an amazing video I’m going to download fish fish go right now

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they could just fish lmao 🤣🤣

[@MuayThai-5643]

People in my school ruined boxing for me. That's why I switched to kickboxing.

[@ninjamanx320]

Influenza boxing has brought a lot of people to this sport of boxing

[@gabrielesambin2241]

I think despite being a stupid thing it can have a positive effect, a lot of people that would have never developed an interest in fighting sports may start training just because they have seen two streamers with Ben Askren's strinking ability fight

[@liambeeson7425]

very good video

[@aureum7479]

Influencer boxing is good because it brings new eyes to the sport, the problem is when people act like it’s better than the sport.