Are Jayson Tatum & Jaylen Brown Top 5️⃣ players in the NBA? First Take debates

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@Kdott729
@Kdott729 6 ай бұрын
Yo who tf is LUKER ? 😂
@lemmie_live5969
@lemmie_live5969 6 ай бұрын
Kember Walker 😂
@coot.v826
@coot.v826 6 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@iguesss
@iguesss 6 ай бұрын
Luker Kennard
@Vern2Nice
@Vern2Nice 6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@djjames9840
@djjames9840 6 ай бұрын
Lukerr lol
@jason10184
@jason10184 6 ай бұрын
The main reason why Media chose the Mavs was because they said Luka was the best player on the court and completely ignored that Celtics had a far superior team. Now they are questioning if he's top 5 . 🤣🤣🤣
@Chupapiyayaya
@Chupapiyayaya 6 ай бұрын
Idiots
@marsspacex6065
@marsspacex6065 6 ай бұрын
Yeah Luka was the best but number 2 - 6 or 7 were all Celtics.
@Lrod0323
@Lrod0323 6 ай бұрын
He ain’t top 5 don’t worry
@R3Y1023
@R3Y1023 6 ай бұрын
Only Luka can take his team to the Finals and get knocked off their top 5 😂
@roberthall1818
@roberthall1818 6 ай бұрын
🤣 never understood that idea the Celtics had 6players in the top 50 they were collective unit not one player in the Celtics stood out like at all Luka stood out more he is the 2nd best player in the NBA he was aweful
@rickyr.6030
@rickyr.6030 6 ай бұрын
This team doesn't win without Jrue and Derrick White
@perckensborde6004
@perckensborde6004 6 ай бұрын
You Hear yourself? You said it team! Everyone’s contributing buddy.
@AustinAaq
@AustinAaq 6 ай бұрын
Neither do the warriors without Poole and draymond in 2022😂😂😂
@jackwanker9429
@jackwanker9429 6 ай бұрын
@@perckensborde6004thats not the point this dumb broad said “jayson tatum led his team “ witch is completely false jaylen won finals mvp 😂😂
@MapleleafsMessi
@MapleleafsMessi 6 ай бұрын
yea it does when you have a great coach.
@mob4ever
@mob4ever 6 ай бұрын
Jordan wouldn't have won without Ron Harper and Toni Kukoc. See how we can spin any win?
@Sam-jx8tv
@Sam-jx8tv 6 ай бұрын
As a Celtics fan I'll say both of them are top 15. It's a stacked league so there is no shame in that.
@ShyAntMan1774
@ShyAntMan1774 6 ай бұрын
Thank u this is the only correct answer… I made a list of the best 25 in the league this year and I got both of them below top 10 cause there are players that are just better than them
@Sam-jx8tv
@Sam-jx8tv 6 ай бұрын
@@ShyAntMan1774 now I didn't say where I'd rank them cause it probably would be higher than most. But there is so much talent in this league.
@AdRuiZxD
@AdRuiZxD 6 ай бұрын
JT is top 10. Outside of 5 you’re splitting hairs
@Frank-nz1wr
@Frank-nz1wr 6 ай бұрын
Tatum is around the 6-8 best in the league rn, jb I believe is in the 15-18ish area. Just a really well built team, and a total team effort for the chip. It’s rare u have a team that’s best player isn’t a firm top 5 player win it all, I tend to just congratulate the entire Celtics team and give Tatum the edge over players like sga Brunson ant and others who haven’t had the same successes as Tatum
@JansMarinara
@JansMarinara 6 ай бұрын
​@@ShyAntMan1774You're lying to yourself if you have Tatum outside of top 10. I can't even see an argument for below like 8th.
@donmoore5340
@donmoore5340 6 ай бұрын
Stephen a still putting kd in the top 5 is hilarious
@sneakyf7668
@sneakyf7668 6 ай бұрын
kd still better than jt/jb
@jaleelcmb
@jaleelcmb 6 ай бұрын
@@sneakyf7668exactly
@hooligan5381
@hooligan5381 6 ай бұрын
its's not 5 guys better than KD tho even at 35
@chuckreddick3903
@chuckreddick3903 6 ай бұрын
I would too
@donmoore5340
@donmoore5340 6 ай бұрын
@hooligan5381 jokic,luka,giannis,embiid,tatum are all better than kd at this point of his career. I would also put lebron and shai over kd... How many times is he gonna get swept until people realize he is not the same player he use to be
@packetraiin5936
@packetraiin5936 6 ай бұрын
Luka at 6? After that playoff run? Lady is on crack
@jjpark1989
@jjpark1989 6 ай бұрын
Racist
@808bboarder
@808bboarder 6 ай бұрын
Luka shouldn’t even be in top 10
@R3Y1023
@R3Y1023 6 ай бұрын
Only Luka can get knocked off their top 5 after taking his team to the Finals 😂
@packetraiin5936
@packetraiin5936 6 ай бұрын
@@808bboarder ur a okc fan so im not shocked u dont know ball
@brucebanner6737
@brucebanner6737 6 ай бұрын
What?!?! Just because Luka didn’t win that doesn’t take away from his accomplishments, if that was the case then nobody would have any accomplishments!!!! All the greats lost at least once.
@Pasta-_-
@Pasta-_- 6 ай бұрын
It’s 2024 KD is NOT a top 5 player anymore…
@hhtheofficiallive
@hhtheofficiallive 6 ай бұрын
Still is buddy. Watch the game
@Pasta-_-
@Pasta-_- 6 ай бұрын
@@hhtheofficiallive watch the playoffs. Dude gets smothered by defenders. Swept 2 times in 3 years.
@jvtopflight796
@jvtopflight796 6 ай бұрын
@@Pasta-_- Dude gets smothered by who??? Wat were his numbers in these playoffs
@ebenezerindi1766
@ebenezerindi1766 6 ай бұрын
@@Pasta-_- You might be in for a surprise when you check his numbers despite the sweep LOL
@cliffd8380
@cliffd8380 6 ай бұрын
How dare you.
@greekfreak384
@greekfreak384 6 ай бұрын
So glad we can finally forget about that 08 ring those Celtics been draggin since then 😭
@howarddavis3517
@howarddavis3517 6 ай бұрын
U can't forget the Truth, or ANYTHING IS POSSIBLEEEEEEE
@youngcity4241
@youngcity4241 6 ай бұрын
This ring is gotta be more annoying esp since it was a easy path
@J4y5un
@J4y5un 6 ай бұрын
@@youngcity4241 man theres an asterix for literally every chip
@VideoRandomChannel
@VideoRandomChannel 6 ай бұрын
@@youngcity4241the Celtics legit are just better than everyone, they have like 7 scorers most teams have 1-2 good scorers
@cwavygaming6615
@cwavygaming6615 6 ай бұрын
MAN.. I’ve been saying this for years lmao. I just hope this team doesn’t underachieve like the 08 team.. that team should of had at LEAST 2 rings
@breonmitchell2443
@breonmitchell2443 6 ай бұрын
Jaylen brown definition of role model Youngest ever teach at Harvard his foundation is amazing stuff like that save kids lives more focus need be on that very important
@CyphCat
@CyphCat 6 ай бұрын
I need what you’re smoking , teach at Harvard 😂
@cedricspencer720
@cedricspencer720 6 ай бұрын
@@CyphCatbruh you must be slow, Jaylen Brown is literally the youngest person to ever give a speech at Harvard
@Wmaig1
@Wmaig1 6 ай бұрын
Ya lacking information bro Jaylen Brown did teach a class at Harvard University look it up​@@CyphCat
@Mitch_Feral
@Mitch_Feral 6 ай бұрын
@@CyphCat He's lectured at Harvard, he's a fellow at MIT.
@salvajeasp757
@salvajeasp757 6 ай бұрын
Not better than LeBron
@drewmeyer9679
@drewmeyer9679 6 ай бұрын
They’re definitely the best duo now. There’s not 10 players better than Brown. The fact that Haliburton got all nba over Brown is crazy.
@damondash5758
@damondash5758 6 ай бұрын
Dammit Molly stop interrupting
@kingfamothegoat9430
@kingfamothegoat9430 6 ай бұрын
I wish she would get fired or quit all she used to be was eye candy now she not even that
@hulk6452
@hulk6452 6 ай бұрын
Stop being sexist
@alexanderspriggs5273
@alexanderspriggs5273 6 ай бұрын
not sexist she keeps doing it its been happening for weeks
@damondash5758
@damondash5758 6 ай бұрын
@@alexanderspriggs5273 it’s been going on for years
@tamaglibatos565
@tamaglibatos565 6 ай бұрын
​@@hulk6452 stop being a simp it's inappropriate to interrupt someone talking
@user-qk4vl8lj4r
@user-qk4vl8lj4r 6 ай бұрын
There are arguably 10 dudes better than kd at this point 😂
@acaff23
@acaff23 6 ай бұрын
easily
@yvesgakunzirusakara6724
@yvesgakunzirusakara6724 6 ай бұрын
You know nothing about ball dude! Chill out. KD is a walking legend period.
@helpjdj
@helpjdj 6 ай бұрын
Kd at 37 is better than 95% of the league
@naklovesjesus3204
@naklovesjesus3204 6 ай бұрын
​@@helpjdj 98%😉
@camariwilson4942
@camariwilson4942 6 ай бұрын
99%
@PrinceOfTheMid
@PrinceOfTheMid 6 ай бұрын
There’s finna be a whole lot of nasty takes this summer😂
@jaysouthmusic8230
@jaysouthmusic8230 6 ай бұрын
Yup😂
@dtelly
@dtelly 6 ай бұрын
Having Luka top 6 is diabolical
@VideoRandomChannel
@VideoRandomChannel 6 ай бұрын
Boy just got worked, it’s deserved
@OtakuMainer
@OtakuMainer 6 ай бұрын
He's a one way player, the Luka fans can't dispute that and if they do, they are being disingenuous. Dude needs to work on defensive effort, as well as his body.
@bryceaugust3329
@bryceaugust3329 6 ай бұрын
@@OtakuMainerI can tell you for fs if it was Jayson or Jaylen on the mavs instead of luka they don’t even get to the finals. Luka still top 5 whether his defense lacking or not(which it is)
@marcuno
@marcuno 6 ай бұрын
Luka top 2
@IvoryRoach
@IvoryRoach 6 ай бұрын
@@bryceaugust3329speak on it they don’t get it
@dylansimmons885
@dylansimmons885 6 ай бұрын
“He’s a champion so I gotta put him top5” pretty much sums up Stephen a reporting career
@mudahss
@mudahss 6 ай бұрын
I could make the argument for JT at 5th. First team all NBA for the past couple of years, gets it done on both ends, and just won a championship. His numbers don't jump out like the other top 5 guys because of the way his team is structured but let's not forget he averaged 30 just last year. In no particular order id say it's Giannis, Jokic, Luka, Embiid, then Tatum. Guys like Bron, KD, and Steph will always be great but they aren't in a position where they're competing for championships anymore.
@TheRobversion1
@TheRobversion1 6 ай бұрын
bottomline here is people should value defense more. offense is weighted so drastically but its defense that actually leads to winning. the strength of the Js is defense.
@daviiwonder
@daviiwonder 6 ай бұрын
5 Lukas vs 5 Jrues Who wins?
@Mitch_Feral
@Mitch_Feral 6 ай бұрын
@@daviiwonder 5 Jrues - there arent enough basketballs for 5 Lukas, they'd tear each other apart screaming for the ball.
@waynetables6414
@waynetables6414 6 ай бұрын
5 Lukas would give you 160 PPG defensively
@R3Y1023
@R3Y1023 6 ай бұрын
@@daviiwonder I’m betting my house on team Luka
@MackieJ-zp4fc
@MackieJ-zp4fc 6 ай бұрын
Most anyone can play defense it's more about effort not too many people have the talent to be an offensive player you have to score to win that's why offensive is valued more common sense right
@cmajor213
@cmajor213 6 ай бұрын
“1500 Karl Towns plan” 🤣🤣
@kevinmorganjr2423
@kevinmorganjr2423 6 ай бұрын
It’s crazy, Kobe & Bron get criticized for having 2 all star caliber players next to them and winning but now we’re just gonna accept this stacked roster. I’m still curious to what they would’ve done against a healthy East or without Jrue or White
@kevinmorganjr2423
@kevinmorganjr2423 6 ай бұрын
Windy said it best, it’s a collective roster. I think JB is a better all around player than JT. Who’s more clutch than Luka? Leading a mid team in the West to a finals with injuries. Y’all getting disrespectful
@UhohGundam
@UhohGundam 6 ай бұрын
What ifs don't matter lmao
@cliffd8380
@cliffd8380 6 ай бұрын
I wonder as well but as they say availability is the best ability.
@LIBryda
@LIBryda 6 ай бұрын
"accept this stacked roster" lmao. stfub. ppl were calling KP and Jrue bums when we made those trades. It's not our fault we didn't draft bums.
@mjg6233
@mjg6233 6 ай бұрын
@@LIBrydawho????
@terrordoszucas7219
@terrordoszucas7219 6 ай бұрын
Stephen A is ridiculous. Always mentioning Kevin “bleeping” Durant.
@hhtheofficiallive
@hhtheofficiallive 6 ай бұрын
lol Kd always getting criticized by media when talked my media. He barely talk about him so ion know what ya talking about
@RiruKrypto_
@RiruKrypto_ 6 ай бұрын
Got KD’s Mom on the show and he’s been switching up since. 😂
@fabes2024
@fabes2024 6 ай бұрын
KD is a walking bucket that’s why
@terrordoszucas7219
@terrordoszucas7219 6 ай бұрын
@@fabes2024 It doesn’t matter, we have seen nothing from him since he left Golden State.
@fabes2024
@fabes2024 6 ай бұрын
@@terrordoszucas7219 if you take KD and put him with Celtics instead of JT. They still win. Period
@vatv3461
@vatv3461 6 ай бұрын
Even after winning a title Tatum and Brown are disrespected
@DominiqueWilliams-ue3rx
@DominiqueWilliams-ue3rx 6 ай бұрын
It was an easy title
@bc_qbeval
@bc_qbeval 5 ай бұрын
@@DominiqueWilliams-ue3rx 70% of people said the Mavericks were gonna win tho
@DominiqueWilliams-ue3rx
@DominiqueWilliams-ue3rx 5 ай бұрын
@@bc_qbeval IDC what others say. 95 percent of ppl said I wasn't going to be 235 pounds but I am. It was an easy title like I said
@bc_qbeval
@bc_qbeval 5 ай бұрын
@@DominiqueWilliams-ue3rx easy like 90% of the other titles in the last 10 years
@chrisdiggs9162
@chrisdiggs9162 6 ай бұрын
I know Ja Morant printing a receipt out for this too
@ningorafael5279
@ningorafael5279 6 ай бұрын
Bro i swear.... 12 is coming😂😂
@teedee1167
@teedee1167 6 ай бұрын
12 coming with a 9😂😂😂
@benjaminallen7332
@benjaminallen7332 6 ай бұрын
Nah this is too creative 💀
@KJCK4
@KJCK4 6 ай бұрын
@@teedee1167🤣🤣🤣
@Digitalfutureguy
@Digitalfutureguy 6 ай бұрын
This group really should get at least 1 more ring 💍 especially if Porzingis can be healthy for the playoffs.
@MazevG
@MazevG 6 ай бұрын
Impact wise there is an argument, but 90% of basketball fans nowadays r box score watchers, people were really thinking Luka should’ve got finals mvp in a loss when he wasn’t even a top 2-3 player in this series
@tigerhoods7927
@tigerhoods7927 6 ай бұрын
lol don’t pay these clowns any attention they just care about stats because of fan duel and betting
@KingoftheJungle214
@KingoftheJungle214 6 ай бұрын
Nobody said Luka should’ve got finals mvp lol
@jeremiahsmith7706
@jeremiahsmith7706 6 ай бұрын
He was the best player in this series
@MazevG
@MazevG 6 ай бұрын
@@KingoftheJungle214u must’ve not been on the internet the entire finals
@lovinv08
@lovinv08 6 ай бұрын
​@KingoftheJungle214 I think he's just tried to sneak that in lol nobody said that
@Dan_Boston
@Dan_Boston 6 ай бұрын
They’re young & talented. Tatum has been in the ECF 5 of his 7 yrs in the league. Glad they kept these two together 🍀
@orgen666
@orgen666 6 ай бұрын
bro people be GLAZING Tatum like crazyyyy, they literally forgot that in the 5 finals games he played this year, he put up 3 stinkers.. like how is that top 5?
@tigerhoods7927
@tigerhoods7927 6 ай бұрын
One thing that is not being discussed enough is that we rarely talked about the Celtics turnovers during this playoff run. The thing that was their undoing in the past against the Warriors/Heat was essentially eliminated. Major credit to Tatum, Brown and Brad specifically and joe
@xMaGuSx888
@xMaGuSx888 6 ай бұрын
Yup they had 15+ almost every game in that 22 run. Much more purpose with the ball as a whole. That alone is a difference maker when you aren't just giving the ball away. I'd say better shot selection and ball movement was the other. They always had a crazy good defense, which somehow got even better.
@nothingspecial8114
@nothingspecial8114 6 ай бұрын
What tf is Stephen A’s fascination with KD still
@xKeilo
@xKeilo 6 ай бұрын
His momma
@alvinabraham97
@alvinabraham97 6 ай бұрын
5:30 Did you notice when he brought up KD? When molly pointed out and he realised that all of his top 5 were international players. And then he started raving about KD, Curry, LBJ and Ant. The insecurity is unreal.
@WestCoastStyleSports
@WestCoastStyleSports 6 ай бұрын
There’s no way Tatum is top 5 when he wasn’t the best player on his team all playoffs
@Monaco377
@Monaco377 6 ай бұрын
Yes he was. In what world does leading the team in points rebounds and assists not make him the best player on the team? A delusional world, thats what.
@dojo1371
@dojo1371 6 ай бұрын
​@Boston2Boca that's because the don't watch the games. They just listen to these talking heads on TV
@coldhardkass
@coldhardkass 6 ай бұрын
The other top 5 players were in Cancun…
@D5O5M5I5
@D5O5M5I5 6 ай бұрын
​@@Monaco377brown and white are better than tatum. Tatum ain't it.
@Monaco377
@Monaco377 6 ай бұрын
@@D5O5M5I5 Brown is trash. Brown as the 1st option vs Miami shot 8-24 with 8 turnovers.
@SShaBazzz
@SShaBazzz 6 ай бұрын
This literally is a new era of basketball. It use to be the era of dominance where one team dominates for a stretch. Lebron dominated, then Steph dominated, then KD had his time of dominance. But now we have Jokic, Giannis, Tatum, all eating right now. NBA is deffinently in a great spot for the player. Though fans are definently in question due to thek clearly just wanting 1 person to win again and again (You know, Normie ish).
@dbutta2496
@dbutta2496 6 ай бұрын
Huh zip it
@SShaBazzz
@SShaBazzz 6 ай бұрын
​@@dbutta2496stop being mad
@dbutta2496
@dbutta2496 6 ай бұрын
@@SShaBazzz mad at what? Boston won I'm good goofy
@Nca021
@Nca021 6 ай бұрын
Not true at all. Injuries have ruined the past 4 years of the playoffs. We haven’t been seeing one of the most dominant players in Kawhi consistently play in the playoffs. Giannis, ad here and there, Jimmy, Randle, Embid, Hali, dmitch.
@dbutta2496
@dbutta2496 6 ай бұрын
@@Nca021 all part of the game buddy
@DavidBaggaShorts
@DavidBaggaShorts 6 ай бұрын
"wow! we're soft in america" 😂😂
@tfos17
@tfos17 6 ай бұрын
Crazy statement, they want to push international players sooooo hard. American players still dominate, point in case brown and Tatum just demolished Luka in the finals. Both 2 way players not 1 way
@NYCBX9
@NYCBX9 6 ай бұрын
5:46 😂
@rhuet8261
@rhuet8261 6 ай бұрын
I think Molly got her brains fcked out by Jalen rose. She’s just goofy now.
@hintssabbat
@hintssabbat 6 ай бұрын
​@@tfos17 the fact Tatum can shot 20% and still win in the finals, shows how great his team is.
@gospaironija2762
@gospaironija2762 6 ай бұрын
y lets forget porzingis,white,holiday and company next to jb and jt.Luka was injured and alone sonce nobody show up
@hooligansmc
@hooligansmc 6 ай бұрын
She literally said can Jayson Tatum lead his team in the finals. Jaylen Brown got the finals MVP he led his team in the finals. 😊
@odainjrsommerville5068
@odainjrsommerville5068 6 ай бұрын
Tatum ain’t top 5 and this series proved it. He’s been the third best player on this team all finals and maybe the entire postseason. Jaylen brown been the best
@Monaco377
@Monaco377 6 ай бұрын
What a stupid comment. Tatum leads the team in points rebounds and assists in these playoffs. He has been the best player, period.
@odainjrsommerville5068
@odainjrsommerville5068 6 ай бұрын
@@Monaco377 no it’s not a stupid comment. He’s also taken the most shots and shoots 28% from 3 and less than 40% from the field. He been inefficient. Jaylen brown won finals mvp because he was the best player in this series Tatum averaged like 17 ppg in the first 2 or 3 games. You simply lack the iq and brain to see that
@SleepingSounds-ow9gn
@SleepingSounds-ow9gn 6 ай бұрын
Bro stop it Tatum is not top 5
@marsspacex6065
@marsspacex6065 6 ай бұрын
The reason Boston were targeting Luka was not because he is bad defensively because he is not and Boston didn’t shoot the basket well when they going against him. The reason they did it was to wear him down and try to reduce his incredible offensive game. He still scored 30ppg with 47% FG in the series with no help.
@KeithHoward-wb7gz
@KeithHoward-wb7gz 6 ай бұрын
Everyone else allow them to play a half court game to rest him up but Boston took it to him couldn't and didn't play defense that's why they did him that way he wasn't running up and down the court because he's tired he wasn't in shape
@BoxChevyD206
@BoxChevyD206 6 ай бұрын
Jaylen Brown didn’t prove nothing these playoffs????? He had a great performance even took over in the finals never had an off game and he top 15???? He definitely #10
@josueselengembuly3697
@josueselengembuly3697 6 ай бұрын
There is 10 players better than brown come on guys 🤣
@PD-uw6kf
@PD-uw6kf 6 ай бұрын
Im not putting either of them over Jokic, Giannis, Steph, Lebron, Embiid, Luka
@ranholic5027
@ranholic5027 6 ай бұрын
Lebron? lmaoo
@edisongao9528
@edisongao9528 6 ай бұрын
To quote Dora the Explorer: We Did It!
@play3r0ne78
@play3r0ne78 6 ай бұрын
It’s not about the best players, it’s about being the best fit in the best situation. The best fit is style of play and health, and the best situation is roster, coach, management, and salary.
@andreasmakoben2455
@andreasmakoben2455 6 ай бұрын
Anthony Davis is the best 2-way player, Kawhi when healthy would also be in that discussion. AD can defend all 5 positions and in the 2023 playoffs, he guarded Curry down the stretch. Jaylen and Anthony Edwards are in the top 10, but not better than Davis and Kawhi. Bron in Miami was a true definition of a 2-way player, my god he was a beast.
@fabioexplores
@fabioexplores 6 ай бұрын
No way Davis is better than Giannis
@NK-mr3rh
@NK-mr3rh 6 ай бұрын
@@fabioexploresyou can’t really call it either way. Giannis at his peak was the MVP and DPOY in 2020 and got completely washed and out clutched by Jimmy in the first round. And then he won a ring and then it hasn’t really been the same since
@MilkiasDebessay
@MilkiasDebessay 6 ай бұрын
Kawhi doesn't even deserve to be in the top 10. He's always hurt. How can you be a top 10 player when you always get hurt?
@andreasmakoben2455
@andreasmakoben2455 6 ай бұрын
@@fabioexplores As a 2-way player? Yes.
@andreasmakoben2455
@andreasmakoben2455 6 ай бұрын
@@NK-mr3rh AD showed when healthy that year that he was the best big man in the game. He outplayed Jokic in this year's playoffs, but the role players became the deciding factor this time. I think AD will have an incredible season, next season
@alexgrace5614
@alexgrace5614 6 ай бұрын
Stephen A considering leaving Curry off his top 5 players TODAY but also considered having him on his Mount Rushmore earlier this year LOL
@gameoverability1876
@gameoverability1876 6 ай бұрын
if the luka vs tatum question is posed and u pause or think about it and dont answer luka instantly i dont wanna hear your basketball takes.
@danboricua4
@danboricua4 6 ай бұрын
Luka will never play defense. 1v1 Luka won't do anything at all. AND he has no endurance. He'll probably complain the whole game about being hurt.😂
@mitchrapp5214
@mitchrapp5214 6 ай бұрын
​@@danboricua4Swap Luka for Tatum and those Mavs don't sniff the finals
@danboricua4
@danboricua4 6 ай бұрын
@@mitchrapp5214 you're back at the starting problem. Kyrie and Jayson will never work.
@JesusisKingfrrrrr
@JesusisKingfrrrrr 6 ай бұрын
Why does nobody care about defense anymore
@BoomTJ25
@BoomTJ25 6 ай бұрын
The hate to Luka and love to Ant is wild 😂😂😂
@alvinabraham97
@alvinabraham97 6 ай бұрын
5:30 Did you notice when he brought up KD, Bron, Streph and Ant? When molly pointed out and he realised that all of his top 5 were international players. And then he started raving about KD, Curry, LBJ and Ant. The bias is unreal.
@rinz570
@rinz570 6 ай бұрын
LOOOOL I've had enough KD is top 5 but Luka isn't GTFOH. KD has been swept in the 1st round twice in 3 years, Luka has made the WCF and Final in those years. Also Head to Head all time Luka 8-5 (Luka 32/8.5/8 KD 25.5/7/5). Luka is top 3 .
@jvtopflight796
@jvtopflight796 6 ай бұрын
KD does more on key word BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL.. Then Luka
@delusionalfreak1421
@delusionalfreak1421 6 ай бұрын
Yep Yep, The media needs to stop Protecting KD like their Boss. Luka Runs this Season is way more better on what KD did, Plus KD Swept in 1st Round
@OneHandMoneyMan
@OneHandMoneyMan 6 ай бұрын
I’m sick of ppl acting like this isn’t a team sport, Tatum and Brown are both great, neither are top 5 tho. The best TEAM won the championship .
@georgeclyde7904
@georgeclyde7904 6 ай бұрын
Sounds like there should be separate list! Top 5 players!! And Top 5 players you want!
@headhonchoMP
@headhonchoMP 6 ай бұрын
This guy said he put Jalen Brunson before JT not to take anything away from Jalen Brunson but I stopped watching after he said that bs 😂😂
@sammymorales6838
@sammymorales6838 6 ай бұрын
Steph is actually not a bad defender anymore.
@Mitch_Feral
@Mitch_Feral 6 ай бұрын
he's not a minus anymore, that's true. I dont think he's a plus.
@sammymorales6838
@sammymorales6838 5 ай бұрын
@@Mitch_Feral for sure but he is not a liability
@Mitch_Feral
@Mitch_Feral 5 ай бұрын
@@sammymorales6838 Yah, that's what I meant by 'not a minus'.
@breonmitchell2443
@breonmitchell2443 6 ай бұрын
Jaylen brown top 5 player he 2 way player he 3 level scorer he great defender he efficient scorer he pass he rebound
@howarddavis3517
@howarddavis3517 6 ай бұрын
Not no 3 level scorer😂
@tysmothers
@tysmothers 6 ай бұрын
I love brown, but part of that efficiency is due to having so many other offensive threats on his team that the defense also has to focus on. Jokic, Giannis, Embiid, Luka, Shai, and Tatum are all still better with players like AD, KD, Steph, and Bron still in the conversation
@ESCOEXCLUSIVE
@ESCOEXCLUSIVE 6 ай бұрын
Not great at anything
@boochtron
@boochtron 6 ай бұрын
He's top 15
@peezydabeatmonster8112
@peezydabeatmonster8112 6 ай бұрын
Doing it as the second option is much different than doing it when you are teams main focus JB was not that til maybe next season now
@WiseKings131
@WiseKings131 6 ай бұрын
Jaylen Brown and Tatum looks at Ant Edwards and Luka as lil bro. It will be hard to beat the Celtics the next 5 years based on Chemistry, Skill, Age and Size.
@NotZay._
@NotZay._ 6 ай бұрын
this isnt a real ring the whole east was injured this year and luka was injured bro this is a real disney ring
@Mitch_Feral
@Mitch_Feral 6 ай бұрын
C's were 23-7 against the West, that's a better winning % than anyone in the Western playoffs had against the conference. C's never lost three in a row. They lost one season series, to the Nuggets. They went gentleman's sweep, gentleman's sweep, sweep, gentleman's sweep to the trophy. They were utterly dominant.
@danboricua4
@danboricua4 6 ай бұрын
Luka, AD, Embid, and Butler are top players... If they stay healthy 😂 How reliable can you be if you love the bench so much.
@ninetytwodreams
@ninetytwodreams 6 ай бұрын
Career defining moment… yep, he’s officially a sidekick
@KB-lc9wc
@KB-lc9wc 6 ай бұрын
Tatum definitely clears luka. Putting up 70 points during a regular season game is cool, but no team is gunna allow you to do that in the Playoffs, AND, how are you the "best player" but you're getting targeted on Defense? Make it make sense. I believe he's top 5, but I'm taking Tatum ahead of him.
@ceez4781
@ceez4781 6 ай бұрын
Top 5 are 1. Jokic 2 but really 1B. Giannis 3. Luka 4. Embiid 5. SGA
@anthonyowusu6115
@anthonyowusu6115 6 ай бұрын
My order as of 2024: Giannis, Jokic, Embiid, Luka, Steph, Tatum, Lebron, KD, Edwards, AD. Tatum not Top 5, and tbh, there’s an argument for Bron and KD are arguably still better What do y’all think?
@TiiMilky
@TiiMilky 6 ай бұрын
I would put luka over embiid becuz embiid never made it to a conference finals and luka has been to 2 and a finals
@soji4477
@soji4477 6 ай бұрын
SGA disrespect is nasty
@anthonyowusu6115
@anthonyowusu6115 6 ай бұрын
@@TiiMilky true that. I agree tbh
@anthonyowusu6115
@anthonyowusu6115 6 ай бұрын
@@soji4477 Where would you put SGA? If you had a draft today to only play for a single season, would you pick AD to start your team with and build around or would you pick SGA?
@mercisaint2506
@mercisaint2506 6 ай бұрын
Agreed
@haywood0457
@haywood0457 6 ай бұрын
Jrue and DW are the ultimate glue sticks. Put them on any contender and they probably get over the top. They seem to make the right plays at the right times
@aevoh2318
@aevoh2318 6 ай бұрын
Tatum over Luka, LMFAOOOOOO
@DominiqueWilliams-ue3rx
@DominiqueWilliams-ue3rx 6 ай бұрын
Lol
@JesusisKingfrrrrr
@JesusisKingfrrrrr 6 ай бұрын
I mean he was a better playmaker in the finals and is MILES better defensively, so you could make the argument
@Steven-wq8tx
@Steven-wq8tx 6 ай бұрын
There’s levels to superstardom that make a top 5.. You got pure elite scorers who you have to triple team (Curry, Embiid, KD), you got two way players (Giannis, Kawhi, Shai, Butler, Ant) then you have facilitating scorers (Jokic, Lebron, Luka). I would put JT and JB in the two way player category and idk if they’re that much better than those guys. So they’re out of my top 5, maybe in top 10.
@GoodGobGents
@GoodGobGents 6 ай бұрын
they cant both be top 5 if they needed pingus and jrue to make it
@DominiqueWilliams-ue3rx
@DominiqueWilliams-ue3rx 6 ай бұрын
Lol
@kingquestOZ
@kingquestOZ 6 ай бұрын
Bron needed Wade, Bosh, and Ray Allen
@yungpeezy9457
@yungpeezy9457 6 ай бұрын
jordan needed pippen bron needed wade kyrie and ad kareem needed magic and oscar robertson kobe needed shaq and pau gasol stope this nonsense. but with that being said i dont think either or top 5 players in the league
@kjjr3270
@kjjr3270 6 ай бұрын
Brown is literally my favourite basketball player, but they ain't Top 5 sorry and they don't need to. Jokic, Embiid, Luka, Shai, Giannis are my Top 5. Tatum is a comfortable Top 10 player imo and Brown Top 15.
@henrystreet6152
@henrystreet6152 6 ай бұрын
Windy just disrespected Larry Bird talking about Luka and LeBron as wing passers
@alvinabraham97
@alvinabraham97 6 ай бұрын
That's a legit conversation. But yeah Windy's always jacking off LeBron
@thomas11156
@thomas11156 6 ай бұрын
It's funny that LeBron & Steph with 4 rings each aren't on the list. They can't even remember the guys that won 2 yrs ago.
@ChadHelmke
@ChadHelmke 6 ай бұрын
Top 5 includes Giannis, Jokic, Luka, Embiid. 5 is hard for me
@escoayala376
@escoayala376 6 ай бұрын
Wemby is gonna be emerging this next season barring injury 🤞
@samanderson1014
@samanderson1014 6 ай бұрын
LeBron?
@jvtopflight796
@jvtopflight796 6 ай бұрын
Luka is not top 5.. Bro defense is God Awful
@delusionalfreak1421
@delusionalfreak1421 6 ай бұрын
Drop Embiid, He missed so many games this season.
@JKeemTV
@JKeemTV 6 ай бұрын
I feel like an argument could be made for taking Embiid's spot because of the lack of postseason success which we have a large sample size for now but honestly I'd be satisfied with JT being top 10 and JB being top 15.
@richardnelson26
@richardnelson26 6 ай бұрын
Can’t say Tatum silenced any critics. We all know he’s pretty good, but I can’t say he led his team to a title. The whole team led to a title.
@prnuvsharma55
@prnuvsharma55 6 ай бұрын
Jokic Luka Giannis 4-10 is open to discuss
@SquidysTents
@SquidysTents 6 ай бұрын
Shai, Ant, and Embiid all belong in that 4 - 6 spot. They are just a tier behind the 3 you mentioned. Then I’ve still got LBJ at 7 in a tier of his own tbh. After that, I’m willing to debate 8 - 10
@CR71987
@CR71987 6 ай бұрын
No Tatum is number one this year
@barrypy
@barrypy 6 ай бұрын
brians arguments are so self contradicting, he says it himself that Lukas defense is a liability and yet he would build a team around Luka solely because he believes his flaws are controllable? U can't have a debate based on what u think he CAN be, u base it on what he is now
@christianmcmahon1029
@christianmcmahon1029 6 ай бұрын
“I’d have Luka at 6” Alright get her off TV
@Heatpad.Murray1
@Heatpad.Murray1 6 ай бұрын
Fluka isn’t top 5 after he choked. Flukas updated resume: 0 mvps 0dpoys 0 finals wins 0fmvp A single finals game win. He definitely overhyped
@ningorafael5279
@ningorafael5279 6 ай бұрын
She crazy asf... and they keep talking about defense as if defense is what makes you a superstar, imagine being trash offensively and a all-defensive caliber player 😂😂, youre just tony allen or worse killian hayes 🤣🤣🤣... man media is something else. Yall gotta stop with this " hes a bad defender agenda"
@karon2034
@karon2034 6 ай бұрын
​@Heatpad.Murray1 yall wasn't saying that about curry he have no defense
@michaelseif1688
@michaelseif1688 6 ай бұрын
Fr
@tyronerhodes6878
@tyronerhodes6878 6 ай бұрын
Yea she lost all credibility with that take. Luka is still Luka. This series is an indictment on Kyrie than anybody else, he didn't show up when he was needed most!
@donovandesha9605
@donovandesha9605 6 ай бұрын
1. Jokic 2. Luka 3. Embiid 4. Giannis 5. Toss up (No injuries)
@G4Chaos-on6xk
@G4Chaos-on6xk 6 ай бұрын
lol here go ESPN about to be reaching for topics until football season
@keepnegativityaway93
@keepnegativityaway93 6 ай бұрын
They are most versatile duo on the perimeter. There tall, athletic , skilled and play both ends of the court.
@iguesss
@iguesss 6 ай бұрын
How Luka turn into Luke Kennard?
@Monaco377
@Monaco377 6 ай бұрын
He turned into Luza Nochip.
@jamesleroy8797
@jamesleroy8797 6 ай бұрын
Tatum is top 6-8 at best. Brown is maybe just outside of 10. The Celtics are just the best team in the NBA, they have been for probably he past 2-3 years that's why they've been criticised the most because they haven't live up to the expectations. The credit should mostly go to Brad Stevens for assembling this team, it's not just about Tatum and Brown. They never would've done it without Jrue, Porzingis, White and the others, anyone of them could've been FMVP
@averagegamer3244
@averagegamer3244 6 ай бұрын
Yall remember when they were saying Edward's was the new face?
@TBurr030
@TBurr030 6 ай бұрын
That’s why Stephen A had to bring him up smh
@Brobudude
@Brobudude 6 ай бұрын
The top 5 players right now are - Jokic, Giannis, Tatum, Luka, Embiid
@realamerican8069
@realamerican8069 6 ай бұрын
If you’re not a 3 dimensional player offense, defense and playmaking.. you aren’t in the conversation of best player! So yes Tatum and Brown are the best players in the league!
@gastoncoleman4257
@gastoncoleman4257 6 ай бұрын
Neither of them are great playmakers try again buddy
@josueselengembuly3697
@josueselengembuly3697 6 ай бұрын
On the Celtics they not even best player in the eastern conference….
@cliffd8380
@cliffd8380 6 ай бұрын
I agree about the part of being a two way player and the assists should be avg for position at least to qualify. But I could never put a Luka up there because his defensive liability is just that bad.
@realamerican8069
@realamerican8069 6 ай бұрын
@@gastoncoleman4257 Tatum had 11 assists last night … try being a hater again little buddy
@realamerican8069
@realamerican8069 6 ай бұрын
@@josueselengembuly3697 yes they are! Celtics are the champs! Led by Tatum and Brown! Dont bring up no one who doesn’t have a chip
@LIKEMIKEGG7
@LIKEMIKEGG7 6 ай бұрын
Now to say theyre top 5? You just gotta consider giving those other players the celtics team and see howd theyd do.
@attainingknowledgeoftruth8348
@attainingknowledgeoftruth8348 6 ай бұрын
Tatum would avg 35 if he got the iso Luka gets. Tatum is top 5 and Jbrown is top 10.
@helpjdj
@helpjdj 6 ай бұрын
swap Luka to the celtics they still get a ring. Put JT at mavs they are a play in team. JT ain’t that guy
@breezywoods6592
@breezywoods6592 6 ай бұрын
@@helpjdjfacts! JT is a volume shooter who jacks up a lot of shots. Sometimes he’s on sometimes he’s not. I’ll give him credit for picking up the slack in other areas but he was inefficient all playoffs
@attainingknowledgeoftruth8348
@attainingknowledgeoftruth8348 6 ай бұрын
@@helpjdj, No way Luka wins a chip on the Celtics. Luka is too much of a ball hog to win a chip.
@markomeker7789
@markomeker7789 6 ай бұрын
This girl is proud of staying in the moment and completely disregards that Luka had a historic season, first player ever to finish the playoffs no.1 in points, assists, rebounds and steals and leaves him out of top 5😂😂😂. Laughable!
@Koskely
@Koskely 6 ай бұрын
I’d say top 10. Top 5 is bit of a stretch imo.
@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyznow1
@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyznow1 6 ай бұрын
1st “please say it again” was cool, 2nd one was corny 😂
@edwardrichardson9543
@edwardrichardson9543 6 ай бұрын
I’m surprised they didn’t mention SGA
@SquidysTents
@SquidysTents 6 ай бұрын
Shai is in my top 5 easily. He didn’t get mentioned just because his team didn’t make it that far, but that dude carried his team through the playoffs.
@Guap_4L
@Guap_4L 6 ай бұрын
Windy did
@brianramos8905
@brianramos8905 6 ай бұрын
Andraya is becoming one of my favorite analysts at ESPN right now.
@chiefgee
@chiefgee 6 ай бұрын
A better two-way guard duo is Kawhi and PG when healthy.
@ryanmike901
@ryanmike901 6 ай бұрын
When are they healthy
@Mitch_Feral
@Mitch_Feral 6 ай бұрын
which they never are.
@yozotothemoon5369
@yozotothemoon5369 6 ай бұрын
7 years ago maybe. They 33 and 34. They not the same defensively anymore even when “healthy”
@ranholic5027
@ranholic5027 6 ай бұрын
IFFFFFFFFFFFFF they are healthy....... So JT and JB are better duo
@nbapbaupdate8338
@nbapbaupdate8338 6 ай бұрын
Jaylen Brown & Jayson Tatum BEST DUO right now no doubt 💯
@Treday313
@Treday313 6 ай бұрын
NUMBERS DONT LIE PEOPLE DO
@Srtdwill
@Srtdwill 6 ай бұрын
Facts the book disrespect is crazy
@jaycleaves
@jaycleaves 6 ай бұрын
SAS always trying to push narratives. Ant isn’t close to top 5, but SAS only see’s dollar signs and knows Ant new stardom would push that narrative.
@richardmatthews2807
@richardmatthews2807 6 ай бұрын
He’s close to top 5 he’s maybe top 10-15 which isn’t far from 5
@jaycleaves
@jaycleaves 6 ай бұрын
@@richardmatthews2807I 100% agree with that
@tristonwilson2221
@tristonwilson2221 6 ай бұрын
Stephen A! Who is “Luker”? 😂
@rnb_zsavageyt711
@rnb_zsavageyt711 6 ай бұрын
When Steven an ask the question about Luka I said “mmm” as the same time she did 😂😂…..4:28
@JosephAluko
@JosephAluko 6 ай бұрын
JB is a top5 2way player on todays NBA
@juicebarr
@juicebarr 6 ай бұрын
"2 way player" is a creative term in this weak, watered down Era, to excuse defenseless players like Luke Caged. A player plays both ends.
@danielthompson3928
@danielthompson3928 6 ай бұрын
There’s an argument for that.
@chrismaybe
@chrismaybe 6 ай бұрын
I found it so funny how molly kept asking for their top 5 and they kept going around the question 😂😂😂😂
@SkitzWazMN
@SkitzWazMN 6 ай бұрын
Tatum is way ahead of Luka just merely for the very simple fact Tatum plays great defense while Luka doesn’t AND spend most of the time whining, flopping, and complaining to the refs!
@gastoncoleman4257
@gastoncoleman4257 6 ай бұрын
And he is still a greater player than tatum.
@josueselengembuly3697
@josueselengembuly3697 6 ай бұрын
Tatum not even ahead of brown 😂 seriously Tatum a top 8 for sure
@SkitzWazMN
@SkitzWazMN 6 ай бұрын
@@gastoncoleman4257 you must not read proper English 😂😂😂
@Monaco377
@Monaco377 6 ай бұрын
​@@josueselengembuly3697Tatum is miles better than Brown. Lets see how they play with the tables turned where Brown gets doubled and Tatum doesnt. Brown turnovers for days.
@orgen666
@orgen666 6 ай бұрын
Tatum doesn't play "great" defense... he plays good defense. If you even watched the finals, Luka doesn't mind getting Tatum switched onto him. And when Tatum guards Luka, Luka scores > 50% of the time. But yes, Luka's defense is concerning. But talent wise, Luka is still better than Tatum.
@ElzRayEks
@ElzRayEks 6 ай бұрын
I can agree they are top 5 two-way players, so yes there's an argument. Winning a championship changes everything.
@tobya3734
@tobya3734 6 ай бұрын
Top 5 in no particular order: Luka, Jokic, Embiid, Giannis, Tatum. It’s not that hard people
@delusionalfreak1421
@delusionalfreak1421 6 ай бұрын
Embiid? You better switch SGA on him. He played only 39 Games this Season It's so unfair to still picked him. Lol
@angelatanurdzic7508
@angelatanurdzic7508 6 ай бұрын
Wow! This was amazing.
@bigshaq6634
@bigshaq6634 6 ай бұрын
KD isnt even top 12 man.
@hhtheofficiallive
@hhtheofficiallive 6 ай бұрын
Ik ya don’t watch the game like that
@josueselengembuly3697
@josueselengembuly3697 6 ай бұрын
All time ok but in the league he is top 8
@kslimeeball
@kslimeeball 6 ай бұрын
name 12 player better an ik you can’t so you finna put some troll shii
@djjames9840
@djjames9840 6 ай бұрын
They gotta get this lady off the shoe saying Luka is not top 5 lol
@J3TRO1
@J3TRO1 6 ай бұрын
Luka was so excited he got brown to fall that he fell too lol
@nuknuk318
@nuknuk318 6 ай бұрын
Did she really ask if you would start a team around Luka? wow 😂😂😂😂
@RailroadSpikeProductions
@RailroadSpikeProductions 6 ай бұрын
PUT MLW WIFFLE BALL ON ESPN
@nickgilday8946
@nickgilday8946 5 ай бұрын
Really glad to see analysts starting to consider both ends of the floor more. That said, thety aren't both top 5 and thats coming from a celtics fan who's favorite player is Jaylen Brown. I think they are both in the top 12 convo. JT in the top 8 and JB in the top 12. Which is amazing at their age and as a duo.
@haqctrix
@haqctrix 6 ай бұрын
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