Are Jogo & Mahito Underrated?

[@avocado9157]

Kashimo disrespect is insane😂

[@weekendweebs8630]

All y’all Kashimo fans saying disrespect but not saying where he should go lmao

[@dr.boring7022]

​@@weekendweebs8630 that's a good point. I think he's definitely above number 13, as Ryu got negged by a weaker Sukuna. I could see him being higher than numbers 12 through 8 tho. Maybe he should go at 8, just below Hakari? Atleast for base form Kashimo. Beast Amber Kashimo should be above Hakari, but I dunno if he's stronger than Kenjaku or Yuta. Sukuna folded him too easy 😂

[@Mort-wv4zl]

@@weekendweebs8630 Between Toji and Ryu for sure

[@weekendweebs8630]

@@dr.boring7022 Okay I could see that

[@djmewtwo6981]

@@weekendweebs8630why teen Gojo RCT is só below toji he one shotted Toji

[@levijennings7918]

This list is cooked

[@user-Maryflores]

Total definition of jjk nerds...bad reading habits

[@zetakari]

kashimo is too low

[@weekendweebs8630]

Who should he be above?

[@zetakari]

@@weekendweebs8630 ryu at least imo

[@theend-zm9ih]

Kashimo may not have a domain but CT Kashimo’s speed is insane and his potency of attacks also make him a deadly mid ranger and close ranger. HWB for Yorozu’s Domain and every-else who doesn’t have a fast info dump domain. Kashimo can blitz through all of Getos curse with no problem and even one tap Geto with no sure hit lighting. The only characters kashimo cant beat: Gojo (Limitless.) Yuki (Black Hole.) Kenjaku (Open domain.) Uraume MAYBE (Long range fighter.) Sukuna (duh.) Mahito? No comment. Kashimo is top ten idc

[@zetakari]

@@theend-zm9ih kashimo is indeed top ten

[@joseaugustosoriano5094]

​@@theend-zm9ihKashino CT is top 3, he basically blitz anyone that isn't Gojo or Sukuna and one shots them Also, his attacks should Bypass Infinity since they are basically energy and radiation

[@helmtk4562]

how is meguna lower than gojo when he beat him

[@officialayao]

this entire list has to be satire.

[@Hiro_aps]

tbh even if maki wasn't faster she still has precog, soshe would probably dodge humans thrown by mahito even in a city, like she dodged a wordl slash basically at the last second without many problems and i'd say those are pretty fast

[@GradTalkk]

Also Maki should definitely be above Hakari he’s to high on the list

[@crackers5422]

@@GradTalkk you can argue hakari is stronger (uraume one shotted her) but maki would low diff hakari since his domain wont work LOL

[@GradTalkk]

@@crackers5422 I think since his domain technically doesn’t have a sure hit effect then it actually would work on Maki but she has the sold splitting Kitana which would murder hakari

[@Purpleguy04]

​@@crackers5422he can use his domain on himself alone

[@weekendweebs8630]

@@crackers5422 Why wouldn't his domain work?

[@DecentralizedNetwork]

@@weekendweebs8630 She has no CE so she isn't recognized as a person in his domain. His domain works by having his sure hit be the immediate showing of the rules to his domain expansion, and then he gets to gambling. If the domain can't recognize maki as a person, he has to manually tell the rules to his domain for him to use it. And by then, he would probably be dead.

[@danielandrews425]

Honestly jogo does get done dirty kinda, 15 finger yuji sakuna was basically in his prime with a slight nerf in cursed energy. BUT IT'S SAKUNA he could take over nobara's body with one finger and probably beat high grade 1's and low special grades ( example geto in jjk0) just because of how efficient he is (not glazing I swear)

[@ReverseBanana47]

Teen gojo w/RCT has a nuke in his back pocket that could one hit ko essentially everyone aside from the top 3. Even if he’s in a domain, just like with jogos he could just brute force a defensive path with any attack. The nuke stays nuking whoever he bothers to use it against. He hit Toji with it and he couldn’t even dodge or anything. Obviously it’s stupidly theoretical so the argument can go any direction, but he didn’t need to use a domain against jogo in the first place, or toji. Hitting them may be a bit hard for characters like cursed noaya but the second he’ll bother trying to form a hand seal to use a domain he’ll need to commit to being close and potentially slow to trap gojo, ie he gets nuked.

[@weekendweebs8630]

The thing with that is if he just decides to launch hollow purple then he has to subject himself to being wide open to a sure hit of a domain. It could work but it’s a risk. If he misses then he’s screwed. If he gets hit before it launches then he’s screwed. Toji getting hit with HP from Teen Gojo is one of the weirdest things in the story because it honestly should’ve never happened when you think about how fast Toji is. I think the only reason it hit was because he had never seen it before and he was off his mental game. Every other HP in the series had to be a sneak attack to hit because it’s slow to set up. I personally don’t think that move could save him from a domains sure hit but this is all opinion and head canon

[@coldramen8026]

Hollow purple is strong but not always a 1 shot. Toji got 1 shot because he cant defend against the effect of space erasure without CT. Sukuna didn't get deleted after taking a direct hit twice, and he wasn't even using Amplification. Anything created from Jujutsu can be countered with Jujutsu, even black holes, or Gojo's infinity from Mahoraga's first adaptation. At least that's what it seems like

[@Donovan_Berserk]

Reading comprehension of a toddler

[@ABthenC]

Maki/Toji vs Mahito is a bad matchup. They can perceive the soul + have weapons that damage the soul, his Domain won't work on them unless they allow it, and his technique might not even work on them if Toji's body overwriting the grandson's soul is anything to go by. That's not even mentioning stats.

[@thermophile1695]

Yeah, final Mahito ain't losing to Hakari.

[@mertyil_]

Mahito is NOT touching Maki, considering Shibuya Todo and Yuji kept up with him very well

[@mamabriel]

the Kashimo disrespect is CRAZY

[@weekendweebs8630]

Where do you think he should be lol

[@mightyshady1016]

@@weekendweebs8630 With his cursed technique either above Kenjaku or below Yuta. Without either above or below Hakari.

[@joseaugustosoriano5094]

​@@weekendweebs8630Without CT one or two positions above Hakari, with CT top 3 of the verse, only below Gojo and Sukuna Also, 19F Sukuna > Gojo

[@QuazarNovaPrime]

​​​@@weekendweebs8630Bruh base kashimo is enough to beat disaster curses with his scaling to Hakari. Plus he is implied to be the strongest in the edo period which has Ryu in it so Kashimo is top ten indefinitely.

[@weekendweebs8630]

@@mightyshady1016 above Kenny? Idk about that lol. What is Kashimo doing against a DE?

[@thatguy779]

Lets not forget that Ryu was an actual fight for Uro and Yuta(at the time) and bro got one-shot by Sukuna, whereas Jogo was just actually shaking off those attacks up until Sukuna stopped playing around. And you can say Naobito was unquantifiably nerfed from Dagon's domain, but bro was "the second fastest sorcerer after Gojo" and bro got insta-blitzed and one-shot. I think Hakari's relativity to Kashimo and his domain would give him an edge over Jogo, but it's not a lot of characters who are beating him

[@yaboiplank6764]

sukuna was paying with jogo, never shot dismantles at his torso or at his head. only at his arms which are non lethal to curses

[@thatguy779]

@@yaboiplank6764 leaving aside the fact that Sukuna cut the top of Jogo’s head off, Ryu has NO comparable healing feats and all the damage Jogo was able to shrug off from Sukuna is *not* being replicated by Ryu nearly as easily. It’s actually not close

[@tordonkin8018]

@@thatguy779 Generally have have better healing than humans, while humans have higher durability (A massive oversimplification but it is a general trend) Jogo can heal light cleaves and Ryu can tank dismantles then heal the small amount of damage. Keep in mind jogo has ass durability and sukuna could have insta-killed him at any time

[@thatguy779]

@@tordonkin8018 ok

[@Loayecr]

Hakari should be just behind Toji IMO. At most he can stall the fights. Hakari was already getting beaten up badly by Kashimo, if it werent for his domain, Hakari wouldve died right then and there. He is strong dont get me wrong, top 13, but at most he reaches 13 imo

[@weekendweebs8630]

His main power is his domain so he doesn’t fight without it. Why is Toji above Hakari?

[@Loayecr]

@@weekendweebs8630 fair point about the domain. Id say hes still weaker, just that he can stall really good. Toji is above Hakari imo because hes more versatile in fights and isnt affected by domains, and in a 1v1 Toji would win at least in my opinion against Toji since I think Toji should be faster than Hakari without jackpot, and if Hakari domains and doesnt get jackpot first try he isn't winning against Toji. Now if he gained jackpot, itd be a 70/30 to Hakari. Toji could still use Split Soul Katana to damage soul, but Hakari would just be too fast and Toji cant regenerate since no CE to RCT.

[@weekendweebs8630]

@@Loayecr I think Toji and Maki both have a good chance. Mainly because Hakari relies on hand to hand combat and they are masters at that. Inverted Spear of Heaven could definitely be an issue for Hakari

[@Loayecr]

@@weekendweebs8630 true! I forgot about ISPOH. Then I'd say Toji has the advantage most of the time, and if we give Maki who is already as strong or stronger than Toji the ISPOH then she's also beating Hakari. Weapon variety really gives the edge to Toji and Maki tbh.

[@brunitop4753]

Jogo is definitely underrated. He gives Maki and Toji a run for their money. He might even hold out against Hakari and Yuki for a while. However, what I'm most bothered by is how low they placed Yorozu. Put some respect on her name. She fought 15F Sukuna pretty evenly for a bit (mind you, without Cleave and Dismantle). Yuta pre-timeskip was struggling with Ryu. Ryu was at like 5% and Yuta had just refilled his CE with Rika. Ryu then goes on to get blitzed and oneshot by Sukuna. Sukuna vs Yorozu was an actual fight, even if Sukuna wasn't struggling too much and his goals weren't strictly to win as optimally as possible. Also yeah idk what's up with the Kashimo placement. He should be stronger thank Hakari, cuz he destroys Hakari in base and almost killed Hakari in jackpot several times. CT Kashimo is top 5.

[@hatefulgaming1800]

Jogo lost hard to fifteenth finger Sukuna who’s probably only losing a 1v1 to Gojo

[@first7120]

Get kashimo tf up bros what is thatttt😭😭 He litteraly beat hakari in base, he only lost because they were in a port. Yall crazy

[@GradTalkk]

Hakari and Urame should have the same place considering their fight was dead even

[@ivanbackfromthecardshop8093]

Dead even with hakari just means a hakari W. He has infinite stamina thats his main weapon. If you cant kill him then its just an eventual L

[@remixmaster5000]

Yuji should be above Uraume and Hakari should be lower imo. It feels strange where you placed teen gojo w/rct, but the domain expansion argument is fair (unless he already learned simple domain and falling blossom emotion by then).

[@Cosme267]

Yuji is definitely stronger then hakari maybe Yuta

[@Purpleguy04]

crazy because we have no clue how strong hakari is

[@weekendweebs8630]

He definitely has the potential but I don't think he's there yet

[@GradTalkk]

In the manga it’s stated Final Geto was weakened due to him splitting his curses when fighting early yuta I would put Final Geto a few places higher

[@weekendweebs8630]

Are you saying Final Geto is above Kashimo, Prequel Yuta, and Teen Gojo?

[@GradTalkk]

Definitely over prequal yuta maybe Kashimo as well

[@yaboiplank6764]

@@weekendweebs8630 yes

[@fwdooms2540]

ultimate mechamaru is lowkey underrated on this list hes bare minimum beating dagon. Also if you lowkey think about it mahito is lowkey like megumi but for the bad guys, they are both potential men who could be top 1 if they really locked in but they didnt have that dog in them.

[@xxjoebamaxx7782]

Yuji didn't even make the list? Crazy

[@MonoExists]

are you silly?

[@YoIsthatJuiceboxSupreme]

are you silly?

[@tordonkin8018]

are you silly?

[@yaboiplank6764]

uraume and hakari equal cz they stalemated

[@gusthegodofgaming9915]

I love how one of these guys just has no idea what hes talking about lol "naoya cant use fps technique" okay man

[@gusthegodofgaming9915]

maki washes mahito low diff

[@tymoteuszmotyka2849]

Hakari only defeated Kashimo because of his insane luck (last domain) and the place where they were fighting. If not for a water nearby Kashimo would've won. He was on par if not stronger than Jackpot Hakari since even Hakari said that he almost died 3 or 4 times and that was while in jackpot. So if they were fighting in any other colony, hell even in just other place Kashimo would've won. So Kashimo without CT is stronger than Hakari for sure. With his technique he forced Sukuna to transform to his heian form (any other Sorcerer would've been most likely burned to a crisp by Kamutoke (of course depending on its strength but if that's a weapon Sukuna could use in his original body I'd say it should be somewhere around his own abilities)) Also he would've destroyed post-Gojo Meguna no questions here. When Sukuna transformed he fought him at the strongest point in this battle (except Gojo of course) so it's reasonable that his fight only lasted two chapters. Justice for Kashimo

[@thegoldenbucketstudios9896]

mahito is capable of killing basically everyone with one touch but gojo, yuji w/ sukuna, and sukuna himself. I dont think theres any real method to avoid death if mahito makes your brain implode

[@yaboiplank6764]

i cnt lie meguna > shinjuku gojo if both are at full power people dont take into account that meguna technically has a version of WCS that doesnt require chants or him pointing, all he he needs is en ma ten handsign so i still favour him over gojo and yea, jogo and mahito are underrated. nobody comes close to 15F sukuna excluding gojo and if kenjaku and yuta are basically equal and yuta is arguably weaker than a 10F sukuna (im just making an argumet but also outright stating yuta has less CE 10 F sukuna) andwith jogo being high balled to 9F but is realistically 6F then it makes sense why Kenjaku who is arguably 8F would not have such an easy time against Jogo or Mahito who are 5-6F level and neither would yuta cuz i seen some videos of people saying yuta solos the disaster curses

[@crackers5422]

Kashimo’s in the wrong place. Right above kenjaku. Otherwise this is almost perfect (still a couple minor changes).

[@weekendweebs8630]

You think Kashimo is better than Kenjaku?

[@crackers5422]

@@weekendweebs8630 only using mythic beast amber. He wins then dies. Hakari did basically no damage to him their whole fight when he was in base. He was beating up tired sukuna for a bit, i think the speed is the number 1 cause of my decision. Kenjaku’s domain shreds anti-domain tactics, but i think kashimo just overwhelms hand to hand before that happens (same reason kenjaku would be slapped around by gojo even though he should theoretically win a domain clash). Over all? Kenjaku is a much better sorcerer. Killing yourself to win doesn’t really help more than 1 time…

[@Loayecr]

hhhhheeellllll nah. kashimo is getting glazed by everyone when bro got turned into a waffle. wafflimo. kashimo at MOST is defeating yorozu. no domain brings him so down.

[@Kashimo_Glazer123]

@@Loayecr nope

[@yaboiplank6764]

@@crackers5422 so by your logic kenjaku > yuki > sukuna > gojo

[@yaboiplank6764]

where miguel? he put in work

[@weekendweebs8630]

I forgot about Miguel lmao I have no idea where to put him

[@yaboiplank6764]

@@weekendweebs8630 based on pure physical stats the fact he doesn’t have a domain or anti domain means he can just speedblitz those who do have them And his durability For speed, see how he performed against Sukuna For durability The fight with Gojo The two strongest mfs in the series and good references for those two things specifically

[@yukotrey9422]

What did you not rank Yuji?

[@tordonkin8018]

are you silly?

[@yukotrey9422]

@@tordonkin8018 the silliest

[@tordonkin8018]

@@yukotrey9422 Mb did not realise you were chill like that

[@explosivegrape]

How did the disaster spirits get higher than Geto? Teen Geto is treating them like free xp. What is this Geto down play? He’s top 10.

[@weekendweebs8630]

Geto has no domain. That’s his main critique

[@Slipperybag66]

Geto got shafted so hard cuz he was gonna be the main villain when jjk was a planned one shot by Gege, so most things like domains didn't exists back the

[@Slipperybag66]

Then*

[@theodorable1425]

How tf are Hanami and Dagon above Teen Gojo with RCT? In what way? Dagon’s domain didn’t even manage to kill old Naobito (who btw had no rct), you think it’s a wincon against Gojo with RCT, let alone Gojo without RCT? Teen Gojo pre-rct still beats Dagon easily. Same goes for Hanami, her domain doesn’t even have any feats… Just because Hanami and Dagon have domains doesn’t mean that they solo any and all non-domain expansion users. Also, Kenjaku is rated too high here, and Hakari is DEFINITELY rated too high. The guy who extreme-diffed base-Kashimo is *not* top 7.

[@weekendweebs8630]

That’s just because of Megumi stopping the sure hit and Toji interrupting. Teen Gojo has no defense against a domain expansion.

[@theodorable1425]

@@weekendweebs8630literally has falling blossom emotion. He is Gojo, anything that Naobito was doing, he was doing it better, and besides, the limb that Naobito lost was from before Megumi interrupted. Naobito only lost an arm off-screen after getting 80% of the domain’s sure-hit targeting him, so how the hell would Gojo who drastically outscales old Naobito be dying to the domain? Hell, he could probably tank the domain with just durability and then use maximum output blue to crush Dagon into jelly. Sure-hit doesn’t mean sure-win. Especially if the target vastly outscales Dagon’s AP.

[@theodorable1425]

@@weekendweebs8630and even if somehow the AP of Dagon’s domain outscales teen Gojo’s durability to a sufficient degree that would render Gojo incapable of killing Dagon before dying to the effects of the domain, then Teen Gojo with RCT still solos. With RCT, he will just regenerate from any and all damage he sustains in the domain, and will be able to fight in the domain unrestricted even without using falling blossom emotion. He would be in the same position as Toji was: in the domain, and not dying to the effects of the domain. From that point, Gojo just outscales and destroys Dagon in a fight. It’s that simple.

[@weekendweebs8630]

@@theodorable1425 Even if Teen Gojo has FBE that is not stopping 100% of Dagon's domain coming at him. Without limitless, Teen Gojo is just a regular kid from a physical standpoint. He's not tanking those sure hits. His RCT isn't fast enough either.

[@theodorable1425]

@@weekendweebs8630 a regular kid 😭. The downplay is atrocious 😩 Saying that Gojo fucking Satoru’s CE reinforcement isn’t blatantly superior even as a teenager to old Naobito’s is the wildest take i think I’ve ever seen 💀

[@thekamotodragon]

Where tf is Yuji? Like bruh, ik you ask where we should put him, but imma be real, I feel like it's really obvious lol. my man is easily top 5 at the end of the series, but you prob just plop him at 6 or 7 based on your list currently.

[@weekendweebs8630]

Yuji is Top 5 currently living lol but I don’t even know if he’s top 10 for the whole series

[@thekamotodragon]

@@weekendweebs8630 I think with his domain, he's about the same strength as Yuta, as in, i'm not sure if Yuta or Yuji would win with their end of series versions of themselves in a 1v1. Yuji is DEF top 10 tho, like forsure. Dude has 2 OP techniques, plus domain, plus RCT, plus superhuman body. I think it's wraps for anyone under Yuta, like i think he bodies Hakari.

[@MsNatalyb3]

Just saying who hit sukuna and who didnt:)

[@weekendweebs8630]

Who hit sukuna?

[@GradTalkk]

@@weekendweebs8630maki multiple times she fighting on par with megukuna when he first came out

[@MsNatalyb3]

@@GradTalkk so true!!!!

[@weekendweebs8630]

@@GradTalkk True

[@imaturechild24]

Kashimo in 22 is the most blasphemies thing I have seen in my life I’d say top 5

[@Lightrider-oy2qb]

Kashimo and Higurima to low honestly

[@weekendweebs8630]

I didn’t know where to put Higuruma. Where do you think they should go?

[@Keitaro-k8p]

higuruma is def above teen geto, and choso + kusakabe beats teen geto. Geto final is too low he def beats no rct teen gojo and awakened teen gojo is stronger than all of disaster curses except mahito.​@@weekendweebs8630

[@Loayecr]

higuruma is crazy to scale. his domain is basically, crime based. against curses its good, but against other good people nah he aint getting anything out of the domain.

[@Kashimo_Glazer123]

@@weekendweebs8630 oneshots and outstats jujutsu high apart from todo(maybe) yuji, maki, yuta and hakari

[@aquacool]

kashimo should be 7th EXTREME lowball lol

[@HansWalter-z6c]

Kashimo is way to low what the hell? I recommend rereading the manga again

[@weekendweebs8630]

Where do you think he should be? He has no rct, no domain, and a CT that kills him lol

[@HansWalter-z6c]

@@weekendweebs8630Minimum 7. Based on his fight against hakari he outscaled him, he knew how to win but based on his words "thats how losers are thinking" and only lost to hakari due to him using a binding vow and his environment in his advantage. Furthermore he forced sukuna 20 fingers to use his reincarnation. I use force since sukuna in his status after gojo would still have whooped many fighters (especially with 1-2 blackflashs). Kashimo also got way stronger after using his ct according to manga statements and he was also called talented along with yuta,higaruma and gojo. Putting Kashimo in 22 is really crazy given his atp and his speed. His arsenal is also crazy with hollow wicker basket, sure hit effect without a domain aswell as having access to all of electrical phenomenas.

[@DecentralizedNetwork]

@@HansWalter-z6c​​⁠​⁠​⁠can we really say he out scales Hakari with no technique when Hakari himself was holding back from killing as he needed his points at the time. And going from panel to panel, jackpot Hakari is hitting him a lot more times than Kashimo hits him.

[@HansWalter-z6c]

@@DecentralizedNetwork kashimo killed him three/4 times. His atp is overall crazier than hakaris. Hakari also would have gotten the points if he killed kashimo but he couldn't at all during their fight. The environment part played a huge role just reread the fight. Even if u say hakari>kashimo would you say that the gap is that huge that they are are 15 places apart? Or that uraume who stalemated hakari off screen is like at 12th?💀

[@DecentralizedNetwork]

@@HansWalter-z6c ​ How would he have gotten the points without the conversation to manually transfer them over, killing a sorcerer is still only 5 points regardless of how many they had before they died. And I don't necessarily agree with this list either, but I think you are underestimating the importance of RCT. Especially against opponents who do more than punch and kick. Not to mention how vulnerable Kashimo will be trying to maintain the HWB hand signs while fighting inside a lethal domain.

[@trolololtrololol-v2w]

hakari over yuki and maki/toji is insane. bro doesn't have any good showing.

[@weekendweebs8630]

I understand an argument for Yuki but why should Maki be over Hakari?

[@trolololtrololol-v2w]

@@weekendweebs8630 No bruh, you give me a good showing for hakari. bro literally done nothing onscreen while maki was going blow for blow with the king of curses until she got blacked and have some extra quirks regarding her tools and the lack of curse energy. also toji casually low-mid diffed young gojo (without rct of course) and young geto (who shouldn't be that much weaker then he is today as we have no way to confirm that he got that mucb stronger). that toji is rustier then his prime and maki was stated to be equal to his prime. hakari only showing is against farmershimo and he barely clutched that.

[@kia4458]

Yuji above hakari