Are Low budget and Sim incompatible??

[@dsnats2788]

Hands down the best sim racing youtuber. Thank you fpr everything. I already have my rig but i am just curious about everything our there

[@chepilevski]

Thanks for the kind words and endless support brother 🤗

[@inyourfacedunk]

Really cool look at this gear. Having someone go through the "feel" rather than stats and figures is nice. Great insight. That room...what an atmosphere in there!

[@chepilevski]

Cheers mate 🤛

[@buddy5088]

I’ve tried several wheel bases. Logitech G Pro, Simagic Alpha, and now the Asetek Invicta. The Invicta is incredible. I’m shocked they haven’t sent you their product to review. I would love to hear your input. It’s buttery smooth and the fine details are incredible. Come on Asetek, send this man the Invicta! Great video as always bro. Much love!

[@chepilevski]

Man, I’m hearing so great feedback for the Invica 💪😃

[@adematthewsracing]

I use the previous version lc100 CAMMUS pedals and their 15nm wheelbase. Can't fault it for my needs, especially the wheelbase as I can use exactly the same Sparco wheel as I have in my race car. Took quite a while to get the brake pedal and throttle pedal to feel right for me but that's been the case with all pedals I've tried.

[@chepilevski]

That 15nm base is really good man! I love that beast

[@rocks4396]

Used the c5 before switching to moza ecosystem. The c5 is a really good value for those on a budget, especially if you never plan on swapping your wheel. The ffb it provides is really strong with great feedback since the motor is literally in the middle of the wheel.

[@chepilevski]

That design helps indeed 🤛

[@jassonco]

Speaking entirely from an "enthusiast level PC & sim racer", the cheap gear is marketed specifically to the very casual desk racer, but we all gotta start someplace.

[@chepilevski]

That’s true, i spent my first 5 years with G25 and 27 and still had as much blast as now. Is not good idea to start with 5k setup anyway we must be sure we like the hobby first 😁

[@jassonco]

@@chepilevski Not saying the low end gear doesn't work, but when you start adding on more gear, you'll quickly see it's deficiencies surface. I started with G27-T300 and once I got my first set off Protosimtech pedals, my took a turn towards middling/high-end gear.

[@JoeGaffey]

Very happy C5 User here. Also just finished a €50 DIY DD build that feels just as good and supports different wheels.

[@mark_plays_games-p9c]

I'd like to know more about this. Did you use FFbeast or some other design and software? You should make a video on it

[@chepilevski]

Yeh ma, I would love to know more too about that mod 😃💪

[@JoeGaffey]

@@chepilevski Stay tuned 😃

[@JoeGaffey]

I don't seem to be able to post links here but the build details are on the description of the first video on my channel.

[@liviu543]

Check out ffbeast

[@discodan2265]

Campus doing their thing. Good on them for opening up the market more. ❤ The more attention sim racing gets the better for all of us.

[@chepilevski]

Absolutely agree with you 💪

[@BountyV]

I love those sparco shoes! I'm rocking Race2 at the moment, but those look like are better for more casual wear as well as easier to put on and off.

[@FedorBrickTop]

Hey mate! Your vids are absolutely brilliant as always! 🏎 Cammus making us question everything we knew about sim racing budgets, aren't they? 😄 While I'm a Fanatec fanboy myself, you're making me seriously contemplate life choices here! Keep those awesome videos coming! Your content quality is like fine wine - but thankfully not priced like one! 🍷 P.S. My Fanatec gear is giving me jealous looks while I watch this 😅

[@chepilevski]

@@FedorBrickTop thanks for the endless support bro 🤗

[@FedorBrickTop]

@@chepilevski 🤜

[@derphosenstall4789]

hey racing beyond matter. i've been loving your videos for a very long time i believe you are in my eyes the best sim racing youtuber. i build my simrig with big orientations towards yours as monitor size specs how the wheelbase is mounted behind the monitors and i must say your ways seem to be the best ways from my perspective. it is now time for me to say goodbye to my moza r5 wheelbase as i wanna upgrade to something more realistic. i've been looking at a lot of different options. i recently stumbled across a company called VRS. they seem to have rly nice products. would you recomend the wheelbase and the pedals ? im sorry for the long message. thank you so much for all your hard work on youtube that you put up here for us to enjoy.

[@chepilevski]

Hi man and thanks for the kind words ❤️ To mount the base behind the monitors you will need some kind of extension. I haven’t tested the VRS but knowing the electronics and the great feedback from people, the base and the pedals must be absolute top notch! Happy to see you are diving deep💪

[@chepilevski]

Here is link for the extension I use kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYC9dYJnqNCFf5Ysi=VhCl-GR_H5EjSNI2

[@derphosenstall4789]

@@chepilevski thank you for your input. then im pretty sure im gonna buy the VRS base and pedals. i would love to see you review it at some point in the future haha. I already have an exstension the old silver one from moza. but i rly like the look of your new extension rod and because its so much slimmer you can also mount it even higher up to the monitor. i will think about it for sure. thank you.

[@chepilevski]

@ the Moza extension have different bolts pattern and won’t fit in the 70mm shaft adapter on the VRS 🤛

[@derphosenstall4789]

@@chepilevski omg thank you. that would've been a sad suprise to get the new wheelbase and not be able to use it because of the moza exstension. rly weird that they didnt just make it 70mm too.

[@FluxOhHai]

Im very curious to hear feedback if these pedals were inverted. Thanks again for this reveiw!

[@chepilevski]

I personally love inverted pedals and I don’t see reason to not work properly with those 🤛

[@alphastratus6623]

I tried this set at the Expo and I liked it wax more than my stock Fanatec DD 8Nm. Right now I´m looking for something more, but for complete new or upgrading from the logitech I would prefer the Camus every time.

[@chepilevski]

After the DD 8nm your next step must be at least double the power indeed 💪

[@balazsvoros2140]

If you want to go with Cammus there is the C12 with a bit more power.

[@alphastratus6623]

@@chepilevski yes, definitely. Since driving VR the 8 Nm doesn't feel realistic enough at all...

[@sergeysayapin]

What are the shifter and handbrake called in the video?

[@chepilevski]

Those are from AW Another Way- aw-anotherway.pl/en/products/tau-sequential-shifter-v2

[@balazsvoros2140]

The brand is Tau.

[@sergeysayapin]

@@chepilevski thank you!

[@ELLTMedia]

I own the pedals, im having some problem regarding the loadcell jumping in signal on very low forces, makes it very hard to trailbreak properly. And i cant for my life figur out why they don't have a percentage or some kind of value in the software when you are calibrating the pedlar. I want to know a value on how much of the 100kg loadcell i'm actually using when calibrating the pedals both to compare to friends but also be able to calibrate it to the same value next time i need to re calibrate them. On another note, great video as always! Love all the b-roll shots

[@chepilevski]

Did you try to put some preload on the spring? I didn’t personally liked very much that spring as it was bit too soft for my like and barely add pressure to the loadcell! Can you try to add enough preload to fully isolate the spring compression and see if that stabilize the input? Thx for the kind words buddy 🤛

[@ELLTMedia]

@@chepilevski I will try, thanks for the tips!

[@santigallardo3342]

Thanks for this, the best reviews! I am very interested in the vrs dd pro, what is your experience with that? sorry for my english haha

[@chepilevski]

I have tested it only briefly on the expo but knowing also the electronics and encoders they use and reading the positive feedback from people sounds as good as the best on the market! VRS are great company too with great support I’ve heard 🤛

[@reviewforthetube6485]

I didnt like how the cammus felt even when i messed with settijgs. But as you said you feel like all ffb is the same for how long you have been playing lol. To me it just had a different feeling to the force overall. Its good but not my favorite. But im one who can feel differences in all wheelbases. For me none feel identical. And i like using settings as each brand differs. Im not using wheels to het them to feel idnetical. Thats not the point imo. I search for what they do best and set them to that. Some are better at suspension so i make sure to set them as much as i can for that feeling. Some fele better with the understeer feel so i can pull that out. Ive foujf everu wheelbase seems to do something better then the other. I dont then adjust to get them all to feel the same as usually when doijg that you are reducing some of the special things some bases do better then others. Like some wheels are faster so i dont then refuce it to make it feel like another. Of course we can make all wheelbases feel good or we can use no filters and see the differences in motors or how they relay in game feedback. All depends on how you test and what you are searching for in feel. But yes you can afjust for bases to feel similiar. But you can also adjust to make some bases feel extrodinary in comparison. Most of the tine getting wheelbases to feel similiar you wre doing some sort of reduction in feeling to match another and for me it defeats the purpose of different wheelbases. Just my take on how I test wheelbases. Not all software is the same and not all settings react the same way. Good example of this. If you use simagic and use friction or inirtia you will get reduced ffb. If you lower those or turn it off the details come out more. So how you use it may not feel the same or maximize details. Yet with other wheelbases some dont reduce detaols with inirtia or friction which is why i say you can either limit or allow for wheelbases to be the best at what they do. Or you could like things differently. This goes for anybody with preference or how they use wheelbases. Like i may use friction on one. But not on the other because one may reduce details while the other doesnt. All things that change and matter to me. Like me idc about noise or frequncy feeling buzz or sound. So i use 0 on frequencies and 0 on smoothness for my simagic i use inirtia at 5 and friction at 5 so im getting way way more detail then you may since thats how i set it. See what im saying? If we all went by our onw details when testing wheelbases side by side nobody will truely know what one wheelbase does better then another because then you are just trying to get them all to feel the same. Which always means you are taking away from one and adding to another. Instead of testing with less filters to see the maximum potential of the wheelbases. Some have more detail on curbs, some more suspension, some grip, and so on. Ive found so many differences with wheelbases. Especially the difference in how settings do react with each.

[@FedorBrickTop]

Force Feedback with Direct Drive is a completely different sensation... As a professional driver who earned my Class 1 license in the UK, I can say that the Fanatec Clubsport DD+ is on another level entirely. The force feedback provides much more detailed and realistic feedback compared to belt or gear-driven wheels.

[@reviewforthetube6485]

@FedorBrickTop I actually agree and I was talking about dd wheels. Also the cammus is a dd wheel.

[@FedorBrickTop]

@@reviewforthetube6485 Thank you for your response. I believe that Cammus will eventually reach Fanatec's level of quality. Given their development trajectory and commitment to innovation in the sim racing market, they show promising potential

[@reviewforthetube6485]

@FedorBrickTop well the dd+ is very good. Its one of the better direct drive wheelbases. It gets to much hate all begause of the fanstec issues that have happened. I've been a defender of the dd+ for a while. I own a simagic ultimate and a dd+ I'm about to own the asetek invicta also.

[@chepilevski]

Man, that was long and deep explanation 💪 Thanks for the effort sharing your thoughts brother ❤️

[@balazsvoros2140]

Loved the review. Not sure if you tested if in rally games, like RBR, but would you run 100% CF Filter or only in ACC as you mentioned, and if you did test with rally and drifting, did you use Natural Inertia?

[@chepilevski]

RBR must need to put down the CF if feels too harsh and I did drive some RX cars going sideways with zero inertia and was still too fast in returning probably because of the small diameter! For that kind of driving I may use some friction just to slow it little for full rotation in return 🤛

[@balazsvoros2140]

@@chepilevski So you would use friction rather than inertia to help with too fast returning rotation in drifting/rally? I have the CF set at 85% not sure if you think it's to much or not. (I'm not really good with making my own FFB settings and there aren't a lot of people sharing them for the C5)

[@sprocket5526]

only 2 tings about this budget setsup thats bothers me of is the D-shape wheel, and the itty bitty flappy paddles, I wonder why they did that.

[@chepilevski]

I guess they wanted to keep reasonable feelings on the shifters and went for those small pedals 😕

[@FG_SIMRACING]

6:32 AUTOPILOT IS ON 😄

[@chepilevski]

😁

[@bokomassine8124]

Tnx for review! But i love my Moza R12)))))

[@limaoverao4245]

Master, need your opinion. What to buy? AP ultimate with throttle or P1000 or Heuslvinked ultimate +? For iRacing, and only race one or two series

[@chepilevski]

If you want very stiff pedal above 110kg the AP ultimate are the best there is no question about it but under 110kg the AP Pro is absolutely the same thing! If cost is not problem just go for the AP and enjoy whatever feeling you want from a brake! The P1000 are also my favorite for the money and the HE Ultimate cost way too much for what they are!

[@limaoverao4245]

@chepilevski thank you very much! My situation with the AP is that they worth the money for just drive one or two series’s. I have VRS pedals, do you think that the P1000 are better? Thank you and sorry to bother

[@Wilford_j]

Just a lot of affordable choices.

[@omarsaur]

Spelling mistake in title? :)

[@TheOfficialOriginalChad]

No, he’s helping you hear his voice while reading the title!

[@wife9571]

WE WONT BE BUDGED 😤😤