How Formula 1 Brakes Work (F1 team explains)

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@oiausdlkasuldhflaksjdhoiausydo
@oiausdlkasuldhflaksjdhoiausydo Ай бұрын
Speed in miles, distance in meters… ah the complete insanity that is Britain. Home.
@bigbean69420
@bigbean69420 Ай бұрын
never in my life have i noticed this before, and that is hilarious
@Singh_Shots7
@Singh_Shots7 Ай бұрын
i just noticed this too. even in races they do this lol.
@otmgi3865
@otmgi3865 Ай бұрын
People make fun of the USA or being imperial system, but Britain uses both and I think that's worse lol
@ab8jeh
@ab8jeh Ай бұрын
In some way it's better as we can adapt to other systems. It's Britain in a nutshell though, always somewhere in-between sitting on the fence. ​@@otmgi3865
@ThexMJT
@ThexMJT Ай бұрын
@@otmgi3865 Beer & Milk sold in pints, soft drinks (outside of pubs/resturants) sold in litres, fuel sold in litres but we measure usual of fuel in Miles per Gallon.
@fakee7744
@fakee7744 Ай бұрын
Love that Alpine guy! Very calm, easy to understand, collected. Really liked listening to him!
@go1988
@go1988 Ай бұрын
Came here to say this, he'S really good at explaining things!
@maxcr5937
@maxcr5937 Ай бұрын
He definitely had a speech impediment that he worked through too 7:01 (when he says braided steel) which is even more impressive.
@Boyso5407
@Boyso5407 28 күн бұрын
It looked like a kid teaching his father how his VR works
@johngibson3837
@johngibson3837 27 күн бұрын
​@@Boyso5407sweet was thinking something similar just before leaving a message
@cezarpimentel
@cezarpimentel 27 күн бұрын
Ditto!
@goat3898
@goat3898 Ай бұрын
Any update on the driving upside down car?
@quadrantalerror1121
@quadrantalerror1121 Ай бұрын
probably never gonna happen
@goat3898
@goat3898 Ай бұрын
@@quadrantalerror1121 I have the same feeling. It all went silent about it.
@marijn17s
@marijn17s Ай бұрын
@@quadrantalerror1121 they should at least make a video about it even if it isn't gonna happen. Just not talking about it is a dick move
@MrDejvidkit
@MrDejvidkit Ай бұрын
@@marijn17s In not so many videos before this one, he said he will update us soon.
@Dakkyun
@Dakkyun Ай бұрын
Come on man, give them a year.
@AtharvaTonpayTheTwistyGeek
@AtharvaTonpayTheTwistyGeek Ай бұрын
3:03 So what you're saying is that there is an HD collection of drivers' feet scans?
@Flegs_Actual
@Flegs_Actual Ай бұрын
Hahaha so very underrated comment m8🤣🤙🏻
@MrDejvidkit
@MrDejvidkit Ай бұрын
That should cost something :D
@IvysSSousa
@IvysSSousa Ай бұрын
not exactly. all "scans" or "molds" are made with all safety equipment on, so, is a shoe scan, not foot scan... but i get the joke, hideo kojima would understand too
@worminator15
@worminator15 Ай бұрын
Wikifeet just called
@EyesOfByes
@EyesOfByes Ай бұрын
Rule34
@squidcaps4308
@squidcaps4308 Ай бұрын
The 180kg force is a bit misleading. The force they use is not just them pushing on the pedal, it is heavily influenced by the G-forces in play. So it is more like holding three times their bodyweight, it is not pushing 3 people off the ground with one leg. And they rarely hit the maximum. But even when you take away the misleading statements, it is still a hell of a lot of force they have to exert and they need to do that for 90 minutes. I wish they stopped saying that it takes X kg when that X kg isn't all done by the driver and when that X kg is done once in the whole fucking season... It just gives the wrong idea. The truth here is easily impressive enough: you or i will not be able to the same. We might have enough strength to push that pedal to about what it needs but we will not be able to do it multiple times in succession. About a decade ago i could've probably hold two people and take a step or two, and then my legs would've just given up. It is the amount of repetition they are able to do at around 90-120kg and still have great precision that is really impressive, and they do not have massive legs either. It is very compact strength.
@RichardBaxter-k9q
@RichardBaxter-k9q Ай бұрын
Yes - the forces at play make a difference. The impressive bit is the fine modulation a driver is able to make under very high loads. I think of it in terms of "work" - the work load is still incredibly high regardless of G. That an F1 driver can do this consistently for a whole race is is more than impressive
@ColinCarFan
@ColinCarFan Ай бұрын
I can't say you are completely wrong because there are subtleties to this. However, the whole load into the pedal is through the driver's leg and foot so he is pushing/supporting up to 180kgf, the exertion is the same. G is a big factor but the driver position means the seat, steering wheel and belts play their part in load distribution too (kitted driver of 80kg at 6g is about 470kgf)
@RichardBaxter-k9q
@RichardBaxter-k9q Ай бұрын
​@@ColinCarFanthere's some physics at play I don't fully understand to be fair, but I don't think the brake force comes for 'free'. The driver has to use a lot of force (how much I don't know), maintain that force and trail off in a controlled manner. The telemetry records the brake input in terms of hydraulic pressure, too - so how to get from one to the other I'm not sure. But we're not disagreeing for sure. And whatever the load may be, I'm pretty sure I could handle a few corners before I couldn't do it anymore!
@Goliath83
@Goliath83 Ай бұрын
i was about to comment on this, what the drivers do is so impressive by it's self, why do people then exaggerate it making it less impressive in the end? its so dumb
@ivikpetersen1711
@ivikpetersen1711 Ай бұрын
but you still do 180kg of force in one leg xD
@Tweny_420
@Tweny_420 Ай бұрын
4:13 "esteban particularly likes it really hard" pause a second in realization of what he said, then recuperates, stays composed and kept on explaining 🤣🤣
@stevegreen5358
@stevegreen5358 Ай бұрын
And you know what they say about men with big feet.
@shbmsrto
@shbmsrto 28 күн бұрын
😂😂
@Telexic
@Telexic 27 күн бұрын
@@stevegreen5358big socks
@Laplagaable
@Laplagaable 23 күн бұрын
“[…]And instantly”
@jozsefnemedi8472
@jozsefnemedi8472 23 күн бұрын
Like the tennis player girl: "I'm good from behind"(or something)
@Sash_YT
@Sash_YT Ай бұрын
Apine guy is ASMR material, very calm and collected.
@lucasrem
@lucasrem Ай бұрын
Dit he ever went to school, understand it ? Training on the Job.
@LucasLafrance
@LucasLafrance Ай бұрын
he's dealing with a stutter too, makes it even more impressive
@Hastheworldgonecompletelymad
@Hastheworldgonecompletelymad Ай бұрын
Not sure about school but I reckon that’s a big brain talking!
@lanarkorras4411
@lanarkorras4411 Ай бұрын
Was thinking the exact same thing! Wouldn't mind him taking an extensive look at the entirety of an F1 engine. :)
@KhanyoMjamba
@KhanyoMjamba 28 күн бұрын
I can smell his sandwich breath.
@InsaneFirebat
@InsaneFirebat Ай бұрын
4:18 "That spring sits here" among the 8 things marked in this diagram, none of which are labeled as a spring
@slaventesic1938
@slaventesic1938 27 күн бұрын
Dude. I was wondering if anyone else would comment this. I was really thrown off with the “sits here”
@pirusecond8985
@pirusecond8985 18 күн бұрын
I understood that as "the whole thing behind the pedal"
@93r83
@93r83 Ай бұрын
biggest thing I'd love to see aero wise is a wind tunnel walk around of some classic f1 cars, give some true visualisation of the different philosophies and strategies used over the years.
@bluefire4733
@bluefire4733 25 күн бұрын
3:20 that's one hell of a subtitle
@41istair
@41istair Ай бұрын
The bit you forgot: BREMBO F1-INFOGRAPHICS - THE BRAKE PADS "The friction material used for Brembo pads has gone through significant changes. The actual material used, known as CER, has significantly reduced wear and guaranteed a more effective thermal conductivity. Compared to the previous composite, CER ensures excellent warm-up time, namely speed in reaching the maximum operating temperature for greater effciency, broad range of use, both in terms of pressure and temperature, and linear brake response. These are all features that allow the driver perfect modulation of the brake system. Incredibly low wear that means constant pedal stiff and performance throw the race. The material used for all Brembo discs is the same for all teams. During a complete season, Brembo provides each team, consisting of two cars, an average from 280 to 480 pads." The pads themselves look like big curved slabs of ~inch-thick carbon-carbon.
@rdhphoto1
@rdhphoto1 Ай бұрын
Oh I’d like to see them but they did not include them in this video. Thank you for the info.
@matthewpena4169
@matthewpena4169 Ай бұрын
I was very fortunate and got a paddock pass in Austin. During the Aston Martin garage tour they mentioned that the brake pads are $20k-$25k each and that they replace them once a day. So that's over a quarter of a million just on brake pads for a race weekend.
@kcnl2522
@kcnl2522 Ай бұрын
Why change them? They become loose?
@matthewpena4169
@matthewpena4169 Ай бұрын
@@kcnl2522 They become degraded such that performance is compromised.
@tomarmadiyer2698
@tomarmadiyer2698 Ай бұрын
Probably less than what they spend on tires.
@JustMe-zs4rg
@JustMe-zs4rg Ай бұрын
Wait a second: 25k each means 50k per wheel, means 200k for the whole car, means more than a full million for both cars for a race weekend. And that means roughly 300 millions for all teams combined over a full season. If we include the pre-season tests, then we talk about half a billion. That s a whole industry living just on F1 brake pads.
@matthewpena4169
@matthewpena4169 Ай бұрын
@JustMe-zs4rg dang, I don't remember if he meant per pair or per pad. If the latter, then you are correct!
@dr.python
@dr.python Ай бұрын
2:06 Did you know these brakes are from 2020 RS20B that carried over to 2021? Let’s hear it again
@sasjadevries
@sasjadevries Ай бұрын
Exactly. Just what I thought, there was no reason for him to repeat the text.
@alanngli
@alanngli Ай бұрын
Common (and progressively worse) trait on this channel, making videos unnecessarily long.
@ScottiStudios
@ScottiStudios Ай бұрын
I watch a lot of channels that do interviews, and the commentator will add narrative to explain something, maybe in more simple terms, or to explain something more fully. This video the narration seems to just repeat the information with no real reason.
@sasjadevries
@sasjadevries Ай бұрын
@@ScottiStudios Yes, and he didn't even paraphrase it, he didn't expand or summarise, what he said is almost a verbatim copy 😂.
@geirmyrvagnes8718
@geirmyrvagnes8718 Ай бұрын
Yes, but did you know it carried over to 2021?
@Umski
@Umski Ай бұрын
No mention of the pads?
@jeoluna4906
@jeoluna4906 24 күн бұрын
4K each
@brianfreeman8290
@brianfreeman8290 Ай бұрын
Absolutely fascinating, brilliantly edited and presented, as we have come to expect from you. Thank you.
@Raj-jejejsjdnebsgs
@Raj-jejejsjdnebsgs Ай бұрын
@@brianfreeman8290 For Scott Sir, In case if we register you send that educational video on you tube or something else
@YeshuaAgapao
@YeshuaAgapao Ай бұрын
I learned from a mentour pilot video awhile ago that the wear factor of steel brakes is the hardness of application, but the wear factor of carbon brakes is the number of applications. Carbon brakes favor fewer, harder applications, which seems very good for racing.
@geirmyrvagnes8718
@geirmyrvagnes8718 Ай бұрын
I always keep a pristine white bench vise around as a prop for an improvised and natural comment about how brake calipers work.
@richardpritzel1892
@richardpritzel1892 Ай бұрын
Loved this video, such a satisfying amount of detail. Absolutely buzzed for the rest of the series.
@midi510
@midi510 19 күн бұрын
I'm most impressed by you knowing the difference between less and fewer. Pretty much all the content creators I hear online these days use less when they should use fewer. The other thing that bugs me is people using the non-existent word exetra, when they should be saying et cetera.
@xMithras
@xMithras Ай бұрын
After two decades of wachting F1 I finally understand BBW. Thanks man, very cool!
@otmgi3865
@otmgi3865 Ай бұрын
The caliper is a work of art
@kadmow
@kadmow Ай бұрын
- floating brake disks - the ultimate at that level is seen in a multi-disk backage on a large aircraft brake - alternating rotor and stator disks - inner vs outer splined - just like a multiplate clutch (the overlap at the top of the game between brakes and clutches
@jfv65
@jfv65 Ай бұрын
No info on the brake fluid being used? IMO that's kinda crucial.
@fqeagles21
@fqeagles21 Ай бұрын
Top secret
@brianargo4595
@brianargo4595 Ай бұрын
​@@Julian-ty2psI think you're confused
@bertanderny
@bertanderny Ай бұрын
Mercedes use Endless if that helps
@GamezGuru1
@GamezGuru1 Ай бұрын
@@Julian-ty2ps hilarious !
@price.gaines
@price.gaines Ай бұрын
@@Julian-ty2ps that doesn’t literally mean there’s a wire. That just means that the pedal isn’t directly connected to the calipers. They literally explain that it’s all using hydraulic pressure, just like a road car. The “by wire” part means that there’s an element of electronic control in the middle.
@CojiLa
@CojiLa Ай бұрын
7:56 8:47 剛性を保ちながらも極限まで贅肉を落としたブレーキキャリパーが美しすぎる。 もはや芸術品。
@dpjohnjones432
@dpjohnjones432 Ай бұрын
That image of that gearbox reminds of when I used to build those record breaker and tamiya slot cars when I was a kid. That thing is beautiful.
@jesterlead
@jesterlead Ай бұрын
Wait! So, you press this pedal, it moves a piston in a master cylinder filled with fluid, and that activates a clamping motion in the pad. F1 really has done some crazy science fiction stuff there!
@ahmedalaa7216
@ahmedalaa7216 Ай бұрын
That's pascal's principle and it's used widely in all cars f1 or street cars sports or sedans Hydraulic Pressure through the braking pad to a cylinder of Hydraulic fluid generating higher force on smaller area using the same amount of force you do on a larger area on the fluid So if you press with force of 5N on the brakes The work you done for it gets multiplied on the brakes to like 10N due to the area being lower in the fluid pistons U can look up Hydraulic press mechanism of working or pascal's principle It's not that big of a deal here The impressive thing is the Braking discs and its high temp resistance and effectiveness
@jesterlead
@jesterlead Ай бұрын
@@ahmedalaa7216 Sorry, thought my sarcasm was apparent. 107 years using this technology, F1, Buick, Ferrari....all the same.
@ahmedalaa7216
@ahmedalaa7216 Ай бұрын
@@jesterlead lol my bad i didnt realise at all you were sarcastic When i read your comment again it really made sense and u were really sarcastic about it 😂
@andyw3152
@andyw3152 Ай бұрын
@@jesterlead if it works don't fix it. Probably the fast thing still to replicate user to backend control.
@Quizack
@Quizack Ай бұрын
Exactly my thought lol. All cars use this technology. Hell, my bike uses the same technology. Bit of a “well duh” video
@fivedotsdave9723
@fivedotsdave9723 Ай бұрын
10:35 My background is building and maintaining rally cars and even back in the '80s we were using fully floating discs.
@bearcatracing007
@bearcatracing007 9 күн бұрын
Road bikes had them in the 80's as well
@jealius4340
@jealius4340 Ай бұрын
Look, the 180 kg of pressure needed to actuate a F1 break sounds impressive, but everyone who lift weights knows that there must be some major information missing. Look up a person deadlifting 380 kg and compare them to a f1 driver. Something ain’t adding up!
@Kurator125
@Kurator125 Ай бұрын
its more like holding 180kg standing, not lifting. Legs are all the time streight/little bent.
@septopus3516
@septopus3516 Ай бұрын
Go to a gym, find a leg press machine and put on 180kg of weights and with just your left leg, using just the base of the foot at the edge of the footrest, apply up and down pressure and do it for 2 minutes and come back and tell us how it went
@jimmytclem
@jimmytclem Ай бұрын
f1 drivers are essentially laying on their backs. when they put THEIR effort into the pedal, the stopping forces push them harder into the pedal. as the adage goes "stand on the brakes", f1 drivers actually are doing just that.
@thecompanioncube4211
@thecompanioncube4211 Ай бұрын
Also the drivers use deceleration itself to increase the break pressure. It’s more like holding a180kg weight pushed, it’s difficult but not impossible for regular gym person to do so. But doing so 10 times per lap for 60 laps is the main issue
@Dia1Up
@Dia1Up Ай бұрын
I'm guessing that's the force on the master cylinder. Which looks like the pedal has quite a bit of leverage over
@gustavocavalcanti86
@gustavocavalcanti86 Ай бұрын
0:44 every few seconds, don't forget that part
@dr.python
@dr.python Ай бұрын
0:37
@quemediga
@quemediga 28 күн бұрын
I love how people are so willing to help and show you around
@midas7394
@midas7394 Ай бұрын
It's truly amazing how these brake systems work. The pressure the driver has to apply defies logic.......... especially when you factor in how many times they apply the brakes. Countering fatigue during the race must be a nightmare.
@rickdolton-h8j
@rickdolton-h8j Ай бұрын
This 'behind the scenes' video where you explain specific parts on cars is very interesting, please do more!
@FlyingShotsman
@FlyingShotsman 10 күн бұрын
Scott, I'd love to see an episode about the telemetry and driver/team communication systems between the cars, pit wall and factory. What do the radios look like, what sensor data are uplinked, how is it processed and displayed to the teams, what comms are done in the background (i.e. without driver knowledge) and which are done via voice and require driver action. Thanks for the great content!
@jmazoso
@jmazoso Ай бұрын
I remember when Jeff Gordon drive an F1 car at Indy. It was the breaking that impressed him the most.
@1000petabytes
@1000petabytes Ай бұрын
Amazing.... Very appreciated Please keep this great work going
@stupot6867
@stupot6867 Ай бұрын
I had a tour of the Alpine F1 factory earlier this year. Fascinating. Excellent video.
@lucasrem
@lucasrem Ай бұрын
The Renault team ;) Are you a driver yourself, what is it you do ?
@stupot6867
@stupot6867 Ай бұрын
@@lucasrem - No, I was there as part of the Binance Fan Token event. It was Oct 2023 not 2024 as I thought.
@danielkanewske8473
@danielkanewske8473 Ай бұрын
Did I miss the discussion on the brake pads?
@a1white
@a1white Ай бұрын
Top secret I guess. The team doesn’t want to show those. The compounds they use will be super critical
@danielkanewske8473
@danielkanewske8473 Ай бұрын
@@a1white That makes sense
@FragEightyfive
@FragEightyfive Ай бұрын
Really nice overview of F1 Brakes. Thank you Alpine and Scott for your time explaining.
@LuoQuo
@LuoQuo 29 күн бұрын
2:58 Im gonna need picture proof
@gus.a7965
@gus.a7965 29 күн бұрын
Love the raw science especially fluid mechanics.
@EuniceRyan-yw1mr
@EuniceRyan-yw1mr Ай бұрын
You're incredible, don't stop creating videos!
@lucasrem
@lucasrem Ай бұрын
Ryan, stop the genger videos ?
@wildzeromusic
@wildzeromusic Ай бұрын
Scott talks to engineer, engineer speaks in plain English, Scott translates.
@Esta95_
@Esta95_ Ай бұрын
Could listen to Alex speak all day! Super insightful 👌
@K-Effect
@K-Effect 27 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video, this is something I’ve wanted to know for very long time about modern F1 cars
@BillyRamirez
@BillyRamirez Ай бұрын
Thank you for telling us why brakes are so important. ‘Preciate it.
@rickdennisca
@rickdennisca Ай бұрын
Love these videos ! Many Thanks !
@luiggicardone2084
@luiggicardone2084 9 күн бұрын
Excelente video. Muy instructivo. Muchas gracias. Saludos de La República Argentina.
@kcspeed9980
@kcspeed9980 Ай бұрын
There have been many F1 break “breakdowns” over the years, and it’s ALWAYS interesting to learn about.
@whos_brunin1051
@whos_brunin1051 17 күн бұрын
“Why brakes are so important in F1” it’s kind obvious, when u are at 355 km/h the most important thing is the brake.
@rvdb1863
@rvdb1863 Ай бұрын
Such an interesting video. One of the best f1 channels on yt. 👍
@parkour267
@parkour267 22 күн бұрын
Insane the amount of effort that goes on in the background of f1
@jafanatyk9583
@jafanatyk9583 Ай бұрын
Amazing episode, what a engerering masterpiece
@ktwei
@ktwei Ай бұрын
I need more explanation on brake migration.
@Dakkyun
@Dakkyun Ай бұрын
I am pretty sure it's like on a motorcycle, you hold the rear brake while releasing the front more to get the roration, in this case it might obey some control laws set by engineers, and input all by drivers.
@BradFess-jo8to
@BradFess-jo8to 27 күн бұрын
Love these videos that dive into the tech side of F1!
@stonecold91
@stonecold91 Ай бұрын
All that years i thought the right pedal is the brake and left is the gas.
@joelpierce3940
@joelpierce3940 Ай бұрын
I met Jim Hall, of Chaparral Fame, and apparently he is credited with using the car’s shape to create downforce. Him, being an engineer, hired two engineers from Convair aircraft corporation. Johnny Rutherford won one of his Indy 500 races in a Chaparral.
@johngibson3837
@johngibson3837 27 күн бұрын
Hey up mate did the thing's you requested. Really good video haven't seen you before, i like your breaking fella its sweet hearing from someone at the top ov a box
@svenlazic
@svenlazic Ай бұрын
7:50 he could have just said alu alloy and it wouldnt be suspitious, now that he said he cant go into details it is
@PotterSauce
@PotterSauce Ай бұрын
BRILLIANT VIDEO! Thank you for making such a great video! really great visuals and fantastic information presented in a very pleasing manner. Thank you!!!!
@My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter
@My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter Ай бұрын
0:30 molten lava? Really?
@johnphotograpy135
@johnphotograpy135 Ай бұрын
lol
@yackson4804
@yackson4804 Ай бұрын
Yep
@zacharyayaga6661
@zacharyayaga6661 25 күн бұрын
😂
@seanderobillard5765
@seanderobillard5765 24 күн бұрын
Yes. The materials used have much higher melting points than rock/natural minerals
@gabbyanaman2596
@gabbyanaman2596 23 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@remiheneault8208
@remiheneault8208 Ай бұрын
Stevens _looks_ young and like he just stepped out of bed. Love the vibe.
@SpyderGuyC8
@SpyderGuyC8 Ай бұрын
Braking is actually much more important than lap times! The vast majority of passes are made under braking. Even just in that example - if you brake at 100m, and I brake at 90m, then I already passed you!
@AKK5I
@AKK5I Ай бұрын
I immediately remember Mario Andretti quoted saying "drivers still think the brakes are for slowing the car down".
@lolzlolz69
@lolzlolz69 Ай бұрын
Well no, it depends where the cars are to each other.
@Eat-MyGoal
@Eat-MyGoal Ай бұрын
You watched the video then...
@ZhouXiao717
@ZhouXiao717 Ай бұрын
Very much looking forward to the other videos in this series. Great content as always
@fabiane6592
@fabiane6592 Ай бұрын
Don't get me wrong, at 1:15, if the second car can brake 10m later is mostly because of better tire grip, not brake necessarily. But that would be more agressive with the heat on the brakes, so is better to have a brake system that can manage that heat. It may apear intrinsic, but if you are at the limit of the tire, better brakes won't make difference on the deceleration ratio, or distance. However, considering the tire heat management that F1 brakes also affect, that is realy clever.
@paulgerrard9227
@paulgerrard9227 Ай бұрын
Brakes are one F1 element, like tyres, that a team cannot modify. Brembo kits each with a identical product which cant be modified. Even the oil in the hydraulics is specified. Air ducting to cool brakes is a critical design element and can also be an aero downforce element usually combined with front wing flow. They dont want ducting to impede flow and create excess drag.
@joecaljapan
@joecaljapan 29 күн бұрын
I'd like to think your visit gave Alpine the push they needed in their 2/3 finish in Sao Paulo 😊
@kaj750
@kaj750 Ай бұрын
Great video, as always. I love the technical stuff. Keep it coming! 👍🏻🤘🏻
@darrenkinsey9105
@darrenkinsey9105 Ай бұрын
That was an awesome watch, keep making content like this please 😃
@GERntleMAN
@GERntleMAN Ай бұрын
I understand that Esteban wants a heavy spring. Of course the drivers are not pushing with 180kg of force everytime they break. They would rival indoor cyclist with their legs. But when braking the deceleration also pulls on the leg and pedal so with every step it increases, so does the help you get. And that's probably why Esteban likes a firmer spring, so that on hard and sudden deceleration the brake feel remains as consistent as possible
@rc51bigdaddy
@rc51bigdaddy Ай бұрын
Super interesting! Looking forward to more Alpine videos.
@alecmillea4539
@alecmillea4539 Ай бұрын
There is nothing that I am more interested in than aerodynamics.
@MikasaNeedMoney
@MikasaNeedMoney Ай бұрын
Top tier stuff as always thanks :))) Brakebro was excellent
@VegasMikeP229
@VegasMikeP229 Ай бұрын
Do they not use brake pads? This implies that the caliper pistons actually are rubbing on the brake rotor. Or did I miss that??
@Dave-gf3kd
@Dave-gf3kd Ай бұрын
These educational videos are fantastic. Thank you!
@Friend_of_the_One-Eyed_Ladies
@Friend_of_the_One-Eyed_Ladies 10 күн бұрын
Great interview. That's one cool dude!
@zagadape109
@zagadape109 13 күн бұрын
Alpine dude got some brains.
@losFondos
@losFondos Ай бұрын
What a great explanation! Great guy, keep it up!
@ethan.A3
@ethan.A3 Ай бұрын
Alpine finally getting good publicity
@EAX-n5n
@EAX-n5n Ай бұрын
Brakes are the most impressive system at any car, they handle so much, they are more fascinating than any car engine. It is interesting how long it takes to accelerate to like 200mph and how short it takes to brake down the car to a stop.
@Beartore
@Beartore Ай бұрын
0:39 One man fridge is another's minibar!
@blazbohinc4964
@blazbohinc4964 Ай бұрын
Just to reiterate the braking pedal force - 180kg might mean a lot but you're already holding 70-80kg if you just stand on one leg, so the distance to 180kg isn't that long. Also, these brake pedals don't have much travel, you can really push on it with whole your body and not move much in your seat. I reckon braking isn't something the driver does with his ankle movement, but rather a whole body effort - literally standing on the brake. Counterintuitively, it allows for much finer modulation.
@mechanismguy
@mechanismguy Ай бұрын
Speaking as an engineer who likes to understand how things work, this video doesn't make it easy! Here are some of my observations: o I would suspect that both clevises are titanium (3:07) and the tub clevis is not aluminum. The coloration of both look similar, and darker than what aluminum typically looks like. o The CAD images shown (eg. at 3:19) are of a completely different brake pedal design with twin master cylinder assemblies with a mechanical system to adjust brake bias by shifting them left and right to change the leverage (one cylinder is for the front and the other is for the rear brakes) which he refers to as the older way. You can see each master cylinder has two hydraulic lines, in and out. o The actual (tandem) unit (at 3:29) has four ports so it runs both front and rear in one unit. o The illustration at 5:14 doesn't resemble the tandem unit very well, especially the plumbing, but at least it is conceptually similar. o But then the graphic at 5:36 again shows the old style parallel (not integrated tandem) approach with mechanical bias. o I'm pretty sure the white plastic cap on the end is there temporarily prevent the spring from falling off when not assembled to the eyelet. o Apparently they put on different length eyelets according to driver ergonomics. They probably keep the custom length eyelet connected to each driver's custom pedal. o The eyelet is an extension of the piston on the master cylinder, retained by a pin through that hole the cotter pin is in, and the other end has an eyelet for the pivot shaft in the titanium clevis on the pedal. o I suspect that the tub clevis can be moved to different positions on the car depending on driver. A different length eyelet would be used for each position. o The other end of the master cylinder would be in a fixed position, keeping all of the plumbing in the same place regardless of pedal position adjustment. o With regards to the 180kg number, I suspect that this is the design load for full panic, not the force required to brake during a race or even to lock up the wheels.
@gregsidel3557
@gregsidel3557 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the Fantastic video and thanks for the guys at the shop thank you
@ZeroKey92
@ZeroKey92 Ай бұрын
I second the sentiment of others: The Alpine engineer is great a presenter/teacher! Concise, collected and calm.
@guzrahman3014
@guzrahman3014 Ай бұрын
That slight pause after saying Esteban likes it really hard 😂
@roku_nine
@roku_nine Ай бұрын
That caliper is a beauty!
@ApotheosisTK117
@ApotheosisTK117 22 күн бұрын
4:18 "That spring sits here" *shows an animated diagram with 8 different parts circled and labeled and no spring in sight* Me: "I'm sure it's... somewhere in there"
@Janvick533
@Janvick533 Ай бұрын
When are you making the tunnel going car
@KENflosion
@KENflosion Ай бұрын
This goes out to the people who say F1 drivers arent athletes
@mikeharvey9844
@mikeharvey9844 28 күн бұрын
I found this very interesting indeed, thanks, in particular the harvesting energy and balance operation. You also got 'deep dive' into the narrative twice, great for anyone playing Buzzword Bingo. Blue Sky thinking is so yesterday!
@greggminkoff6733
@greggminkoff6733 27 күн бұрын
Alpine Al, like the name- pine like the tree. Hopefully now you'll be able to say it correctly.🙏🙏🙏
@KahluaBomb
@KahluaBomb Ай бұрын
It's fun to think about how all of the electronic programing that makes all of this possible, is basically just a computer reading a spreadsheet. Pretty neat
@ericanderson2987
@ericanderson2987 28 күн бұрын
Great and Informative Video...however the Brake Pads were NOT disclosed/Discussed.
@GarrickStaples
@GarrickStaples Ай бұрын
So no brake pads? The pots dig straight into the disk? That's wild!
@mrmoonradar8921
@mrmoonradar8921 Ай бұрын
yes there is brake pads 😂 I can't tell if you're joking hm..
@a1white
@a1white Ай бұрын
They don’t show them. I think that’s on purpose. I guess the make up of the compound is a critical component that teams don’t want to share that on camera. Probably some resin mix
@Boss_Tanaka
@Boss_Tanaka Ай бұрын
@@a1whitei understand it s classified but he could at least tell us what they’re going through, the temperature they can stand, the duration,…
@hansfm2032
@hansfm2032 Ай бұрын
Are there even pots? In the video they stop explaining at the end of the brake line, so it seems as those spray brake fluid on the discs to brake. ;) I suppose these parts of the system being that interesting (even to Alpine's competitors) is all the reason they skipped them.
@gray3157
@gray3157 Ай бұрын
I wish f1 games could get the braking right. Sometimes it feels like you're trying to stop a truck and not an f1 car.
@ErikS308
@ErikS308 Ай бұрын
F16s use floating carbon discs but have multiple rotors that are squeezed together. Similar yet different systems.
@creatainmentdesigner3817
@creatainmentdesigner3817 Ай бұрын
salute to you sir for that informative video and sick animations
@topsecretlambda192
@topsecretlambda192 20 күн бұрын
Thank you for your hardwork
@realvanman1
@realvanman1 28 күн бұрын
With 6 G's of deceleration, the mass of the driver's leg adds considerably to the brake pedal force. So he doesn't actually have to apply 400 lbs of force. If, for example, a leg is 50 lbs, at 6 G it's applying 300 lbs all by itself, the driver adding the necessary extra 100 lbs. It's like power brakes!
@BobbyDirt
@BobbyDirt Ай бұрын
Oh nice, the brake disk costs more than my car
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