Does the 2025 Ram HD Truck Lineup Do Enough To Stay Competitive Against Ford & GM?

[@dustintilton7920]

Without knowing all of what they've done to the cummins, the only thing that I don't like about this truck so far is the bigger screen having the trailer brake gain, exhaust brake, tow/haul and stuff as a digital button. If screen goes out, that is no good.

[@blackopsrocks]

@@dustintilton7920 not for nothing, comtinental makes the infotainment system and the newer 12 inch and the larger one shown here are both better than anyone elses system

[@matthewerwin4677]

When the screen goes out. I just had to replace the screen in my 2018

[@jimmyaber5920]

Not good for owner but very good for dealer and Stellantis parts!

[@adv.013]

Rather replace the screen then a full truck (Ford)

[@johnsteinmetz4000]

Agree I'd rather have knobs and buttons especially when I often have gloves on

[@ajaurgemma5341]

As soon as he said “it has the latest Stellantis electrical architecture” I immediately realized I’m not interested in this truck

[@Rubiflake]

My thought too.

[@roynichols5212]

@@Rubiflake 100%

[@molinaribp]

This^

[@treborheminway3814]

Glad to see a column shifter coming back. It's the best place for them imo.

[@Yoxicofficial]

They’ve always had it in the 2500 I think your talking about the 1500

[@dingo3190]

Negative, my 24 2500 has the dial unfortunately.

[@dustinsmith9822]

@Yoxicofficial the dodge trans has dial. The upgraded heavy-duty Aisin has a column shifter.

[@shieldwolf8093]

I refuse to buy another truck with the crap dial shift

[@p3t3rson2125]

The 6.4 is a dial. 6.7 is a column shifter.

[@robertabbott8541]

I am still going through my old trucks and renewing them. Shocks, seats, tires, fluids, etc. the first one turned out great. We are doing all of them. No new $100,000. Trucks!

[@bensears7499]

@@robertabbott8541 I am looking for a new old truck. The prices on new trucks = bull!

[@DodgeMan_Bcole]

My 3rd gen 5.9L with 400k miles might not have this power but she still gets down the road and gets the job done.

[@THE_ORGINAL_SILVERBACK]

Yeah and for a fraction of the price of these things. Truck prices have gotten ridiculous

[@MONGO573]

You are ahead of the game, my friend and you have a better motor. I wouldn’t touch these new diesel with a 10 foot pole and that’s the most important thing getting the job done the dealerships. Where I am are loaded with these trucks being brought in because of the emissions issues. I wouldn’t take a new diesel for free. Many more happy miles on your 5.9👍 and like you eloquently stated they might have more power but what good is this power if it’s always back at the dealership being fixed? That means a loss of income.

[@THE_ORGINAL_SILVERBACK]

@@MONGO573 Yeah I agree. I had bought a 2017 ram 3500 diesel and within a week the transmission wiring harness melted. Then after that the def element died and the tank froze. Then my roof lights leaked like an open window when it rained. This was all before I even had 10k on the truck. Everything these days is just overpriced junk.

[@LSRG-YT--LandonSRobloxGaming]

And you won't have to worry about stupid emissions

[@MONGO573]

@@THE_ORGINAL_SILVERBACK that’s terrible that happened to you for all that money that’s just not right

[@Jeremiah_Johnson139]

Can't wait to see the Ike Gauntlet and other tests! Hopefully Kent will be able to join you!

[@Cloud30000]

Take it on the TFL Toaster, let’s see how these new tuned diesels with high HP handle high load on long, slow steep inclines with limited cooling situations.

[@jordanb8909]

As a 33 year old trades worker. We don’t care about constant updates, give us something that is affordable. A Laramie is a 120,000$ truck in Canada

[@josephjroy6593]

I see brand new 2500 Limited for 110k. Where do you live to get Laramie as 120k?

[@ryanpennock6869]

Alberta 125 000😊

[@jordanb8909]

@@josephjroy6593 just looked, 110,000$ for a Laramie dually. Add taxes, fees you at 120.

[@kneehats2311]

they are affordable. i just picked up a 2500 tradesman 6.7 4wd for $55k, out the door for under 59k. traded in my 2019 6.7 f250 xlt for $40K with 76k miles(payed 53k). bought the ford just out of high school so these are the only trucks i have ever owned. a tip my dad told me was to buy at the end of the year when dealers want to make space for next years inventory and December is the lowest month for all dealers. i just look at used truck prices and laugh for what people want. to me it seams like they are practically giving them away unless you want a limited or platinum and pay over msrp

[@BiggHoss]

​@kneehats2311 55k is not affordable for a base model work truck lmao. I have the window sticker for my 2001 Laramie fully loaded. It was 32k even after adjusting for inflation, there is no reason why a base model work truck should cost more than 25k

[@prabulg]

Having adaptive cruise control when hauling hay on a dirt road is a gamechanger.

[@hully3167]

@@prabulg lol. Good one

[@georgejulien3286]

😂

[@SteveCallsen]

Why do they push this crap on us?? I don't want it!!!

[@kevinanglin678]

Adaptive cruise I find is extremely dangerous the system is terrible constantly overly sensitive slamming on the brakes when people are sitting in a merge lane or turning lane and if someone in front of you slows down a little bit your vehicle will slow down about twice the rate of the vehicle in front

[@justinjones5288]

@@SteveCallsen i love adaptive cruise, can drive long distances and never have to touch the pedals unless i absolutely need to.

[@AlfyPotsdam-wh9vs]

"They didn't change enough"- That seems to be the common complaint. Yet everyone also says they'd rather keep their older simpler trucks. So, which is it truck owners? Do we follow the hype of the press and demand "new" just to have new or would we rather have simpler but more functional and efficient? Do we really need to be faster? Do we really need to haul 50Klbs?

[@Bit_the_Bullitt]

But more better! :D

[@andrewc1036]

How about not including a 20” screen and 19” rims on base models lol.

[@DSGB2199]

Your right, better be careful what you wish for

[@TOM-yd8ub]

Adding roller bearing lifters, in order to 'eliminate' a 100k mile valve adjustment. Only for that change to lead to an greater chance of engine failure when the previous flat tappets were near bombproof. 🤔🤔

[@Fin.mint.]

More power, easier maintenance, good reliability. Remove basic controls from the screen. That's about it.

[@RogueKing86]

New engine and grill GOT IT!😂😂

[@michaeljordan4571]

you mean updated engine

[@W1n_Today]

@@RogueKing86 and a new transmission

[@JerryJrsGarage]

@@RogueKing86 & Transmission

[@is6566]

And upgraded interior. Are we recreating the automotive equivalent of the “What did the Romans gave us?” Scene from Monty Python? 😃

[@dannylebovits8090]

If they can’t haul more weight or pull more weight, then it’s the same old truck and everything else are just toys

[@24sevvin]

Finally with the L.E.D. headlights on the Tradesman

[@2012bigPerm]

Look up replacement cost. One job site accident and there goes your pay for a few days.

[@hourbee5535]

Yeah, that's what we really wanted..

[@briancavanaugh7604]

@@2012bigPerm Fair enough, but I just test drove the 2024 2500 Tradesman and with it's current headlights night visibility was very poor compared to my 2017 SD. I DO NOT have LED in my 2017 SD. I DO have decent incandescent and fog lights, something I am not able to option in a tradesman until now. I personally DO NOT care for LED, for the reason you pointed out and others, but RAM needed to do something IMO as you don't want to fall behind in lighting which IMO is a safety issue. Those of you with outstanding young person eyes(mine were trash even at 19 lol) might not understand this need as much.

[@2012bigPerm]

@@briancavanaugh7604 Good point for sure. They work much better but the price is not reasonable. I'm not sure much is behind the price aside from greed. I get it with the fancy projectors housings and moving parts but a standard LED assembly in a work truck should be dirt cheap to replace.

[@TevisC]

NO!!!!! Winter driving sucks with LED!!!! No heat to keep the lense clear of snow !!!

[@2012bigPerm]

Oh...it burns cleaner? We all know what that means..less reliable and very expensive to fix all that shit that WILL go wrong by design. I don't mind that they make things more efficient but I mind that after all these years we pretend like we don't know what exactly that word means for the consumer. And what did they say about the last fuel pump? Did they claim it would break on the regular and not work?

[@AndrewLee-cg6uk]

facts bud wont out run the 7.3

[@SterlingClark-f7h]

I’ve got a 2019 cab and chassis 3500 Cummins truck. It’s got a blown motor and there not wanting to cover it under warranty all because of an aftermarket exhaust. The truck been a problem since day one. I will never buy a dodge ram truck again. They are junk. I like the Chevy but there to many recalls, so I would have to pick the ford f450 or 550 w the 10 speed transmission. But regardless these new diesel truck are WAY OVERPRICED . Not worth 100k they shouldn’t cost more than 75k max that’s just my opinion. Thanks

[@AndrewLee-cg6uk]

@@SterlingClark-f7h sorry to hear about your troubles

[@SterlingClark-f7h]

@ I’m trying to save all you die hard ram guy’s money and time lost. I know it suck’s but you really need to consider buying a different brand truck

[@Cloud30000]

It’s not the exhaust, but the tune that gets updated to take advantage of the exhaust and crank out more HP. People revert back to the stock tune for warrantee, but the minute it gets plugged in to the dealership, they are alerted to the tuning history as that cannot be erased or hidden.

[@roadsplorer]

To be honest I think it was a mistake not touching the 6.4l. Least add a little hp, that is what's selling on the lots. Will the 6.4l get the better trans?

[@guentherwilke2055]

No, the diesel trans is a bigger MD version of the 8HP, which costs a lot more. Its possible that there will be some upgrades to the 8HP75 with the 6.4 Hemi.

[@jeffs2809]

I read on another page that the gas engine/Hemi information will be released later this month. I doubt there will be much "news".

[@2012bigPerm]

It's Ram. It's what they do at this point. Not touch stuff. When they do they just get rid of it....lose lose situation for the buyers

[@MotoVlog-lh9td]

@@roadsplorer i think they didn’t touch it because the 6.4 might be replaced by a Cummins gas motor.

[@briancavanaugh7604]

The 2025 6.4 is available on the ram builder. It has LESS HORSEPOWER by 5! So 405 vs 410 in the 2024's. No torque is listed so no idea if they traded for more. Very surprised by these numbers, you would think at worst the same, odd.

[@slmjake]

Thanks to the TFL Team for all your work and travel away from family to keep us informed

[@is6566]

Travel to autoshows is just a welcome excuse to get out of the house and away from the wife. “I am sorry honey but I have to fly to Saudi Arabia for the Dakar. Although I would rather be here to do the chores but you know the job…” 😃

[@bjholbrooks434]

New transmission is great news! Now they just really need to address the front end issues like possibly moving the axle forward a little to help with ball joints and wheel bearing and steering linkage failures.

[@dearinghoward]

I never had issues with anything 13 up. 330 thousand miles on my 13 all stock parts. It was 4x4. My 18 just turned 220 thousand and it needs a steering gear box. Im not upset with that. We have terrible roads here in Louisiana and i work this truck.

[@bucketheadrox]

You had issues in the 2014+ trucks?

[@jasm.5823]

Still didn’t mention the glow plugs replacing the grid heater which itself is a big deal.

[@jeffs2809]

He also messed up the fuel pump, since they haven't used a cp4 since the massive failures during their 1st attempt back around 19 or 20. This is supposed to be an upgraded cp4, but there's no way I'd want to be a guinea pig for the 25's.

[@Fitter4life]

@@jeffs2809they went back to a cp4 it’s like version 2.0 they said it’s either the 25’s or the 27’s that come with it no more cp3

[@SterlingClark-f7h]

These trucks are all around pieces of shit period. I’ve got a 2019 3500 Cummins that dropped a valve at only 94k miles

[@marklee6538]

@@SterlingClark-f7h that's odd, generally only happens if the egt's get out of hand. Bad tunes can cause that.

[@SteveCallsen]

Which is better, grid heater or glow plugs? Looks like a lot of grid heaters were getting plugged up. I said I would never get another diesel truck after they started all this emission crap, but I've just recently started thinking about getting one again, but wow!! The comments & experience's are from one side of the spectrum to the other. I was thinking Cummins just because it seems to have real good low end torque & somewhat simple from being inline 6. No way I will be getting a power stroke, just seems to complicated & u can barely fit a pinky anywhere in the engine compartment, I have a 7.3 gas right now & I'm pretty ok with the motor, but I just don't need or care for that 10 speed, I'm not going down the highway everyday. Seems like every vehicle has got something anymore!! Considering growing a beard, wearing some burlap underwear & converting to Amish!!!! No worries on the adaptive cruise control or led headlights then!!!! 😊

[@robertwalker4283]

C'mon Andre, you skipped over the new intake design and relocation of the fuel filters! New cam followers? Any change in oil capacity? Also, glad the length hasn't changed. It's the only 3/4 ton that fits in my garage!

[@justynsudyka6793]

@@robertwalker4283 looks like top mount cartridge oil filter as well

[@6.7ram]

That first gen in the background is cleaaannn

[@4-LOW]

Never thought I'd see the day when the CUMMINS engine would be the one getting updates every 2 to 3 years to address problems and issues. My goodness....

[@Warex06]

What are you on about, 2-3 year refreshes is the automotive going rate. The update, all they did was retune & boost the psi on turbo to get 430hp so they could compete with GM and Ford. It’s the same 6.7L turbodiesel engine

[@MrPizzaman09]

The last time they updated that engine was 2018, so it's been more than 2-3 years.

[@justinmartin8887]

@@MrPizzaman09is that when they moved to the Trouble prone hydraulic lifters? And the cp4 that they then switched back to cp3 in 21? They’ve had tons of updates since then. Cummins is trash anymore. The last one I owned was pre emission and I loved it. Moved over to gas now and haven’t regretted it since

[@jonny6.743]

Ogree

[@motorlane89]

I'm actually glad Cummins didn't completely go with a new engine block but rather enhanced the 6.7 And upgraded the transmission

[@briancavanaugh7604]

I agree. Folks always want NEW NEW NEW, and then many complain about being "guinea pigs" and "the customer is the quality testing" and so on. You can't have it both ways folks. Update too often and too many things at once can spell disaster and recall hell. That being said, the cab really does need to change as visibility is significantly less than their competitors. I am new to driving HD's and the sight lines in the Ram are far less than our SD, not an issue for a lifelong HD driver I am sure, but for a new guy like me it matters. If you want to grow sales you need to keep existing buyers and win new ones. Beautiful interiors those, no doubt, second to none IMO, and the fully controllable side mirrors are still #1, and the sound of the 6.4 is still pure Heaven.

[@tj4683]

I wouldn't call it an enhancement on the engine. Looks like it's gonna be cheaper overall. I liked the all cast iron block and head. Now has an aluminum head which is a bad move. And looks like they once again put the cp4 pump back on not sure how that will go. Was nothing wrong with the cp3. Also they had problems with the previous years roller lifters so I don't trust anything they claim. After 2018 they pretty much ruined the engine.

[@carlpreston1680]

​@@tj4683The engine he showed on a stand looks like it has a cast iron head although I may be wrong normally they don't paint aluminum heads at least on the stand you think they would show off at being aluminum

[@mini2nut67]

The Cummins diesel DOES have a new engine block. It’s 100% iron for 2025. The compacted graphite iron block (CGI) is now history.

[@gabegonzales8618]

@@mini2nut67isn’t cgi blocks lighter to?

[@asbrandonsconcerned]

20:00 those fender flares on that truck are special. Very subtle, but they look great.

[@jimharvard]

i bought a new RAM 3500 diesel in 2015 but sold it due to continuing emission problems. i will now be buying a 2025 3500 with the 6.4 gas. fortunately, RAM has made the 4.10 axle option now available for the 6.4. i've talked to several guys on the towing ability of the 6.4 and they tell me if you have 4.10 axle, the towing is still very good. NOT nearly the ability of the Cummings, but "good enough." i live in Pittsburgh, PA and owning a diesel truck is getting more difficult. the shop rate for a gas truck is $75/hr. but for a diesel it's $125/hr. AND, there is a lack of diesel mechanics now. so i'm going to get a new 6.4 and see if i can be happy with that. i'm also happy that the MSRP on the 25's did not increase much over the 24's. given the problems that Stalantis is having right now, i'll bet there will be RAM dealers that will be selling the 25's "at invoice" or below.

[@bucketheadrox]

You gotta need a diesel. I pay 160 an hour but the truck runs like a top and gets treated right every time. But 90% of the time I can fix it on the side of a logging road.

[@711slimshawny]

I don't know about the efficiency claim Andre. I drove a 22 2500 crew cab long bed Laramie standard output with 6 speed trans to Silverthorne and Back to Michigan and hand calculated the fuel milage on every stop. Round trip I averaged 21.5 over 2700 miles. This was a bone stock 20k mile truck and it surprised me every time I filled up. Not sure how much more efficient you can get. Just sharing my road trip experience.

[@poorfatman5317]

And they get even more efficient when you break a hundred thousand miles

[@Cloud30000]

Highway mpg is good, but the city mpg is atrocious and really is the Diesel’s Achilles heel waiting for a diesel hybrid powertrain to rectify.

[@billylee2312]

That’s on par with my 22 chevy with the 6.6 duramax

[@danielmorris-ruckett913]

Yeah the inline six really made having a six speed not a problem. Efficiency is still great. My 2017s highest was 22 mpg highway bone stock. And it weighed a bit more than some lighters rams.

[@zacharypeninger6026]

I wish they went back with flat tappet and kept the old style oil filters.. and it would sell like crazy and they would get the crazy price they are asking for

[@Cantujorgeluis]

Ram should sit with a group of farmers, oilers, constructors, etc. real people who use the trucks for a living and have a solid team meetings with the engineers and designers to better understand the needs and quality of the truck in it’s entirety.

[@2nickles647]

Why, just to hear them complaining. Better yet get a bunch of women together. 😂😂

[@SteveCallsen]

Agree 100%!!!!

[@garrettteeter7362]

Absolutely, talk to the people you're building them for. Not the mall crawlers that obviously designed these.

[@Wolf-t6h]

100% agree. They would ditch the 6’4” box and get a 6’8” and 8’ like everyone else. They would also offer more gear ratio options like Ford.

[@roadsplorer]

I wish they would have addressed the DPF issue and added a 4wd auto t-case. Ram dealers are stocking DPFs because of their failure rate. I do believe they might have the strongest transmission now.

[@IssaquahWA1979]

Not just ram unfortunately, DEF systems are causing all manufacturers headaches because most use the same system.

[@hully3167]

So there’s a fuel catalyst called Max mileage formulated by a woman name Jane Gates for the big truck industry. It’s not an additive a catalyst, which makes the fuel ignite a bit faster in the chamber for more combustion and less sit in the emissions. Check it out or call Pittsburgh power and ask for Bruce

[@hully3167]

Ugh. More complete combustion and less soot in emissions

[@stgibson2810]

I don’t care about class leading numbers, it’s gotten so out of hand which is why we see $100k trucks now. For every HD driving around, probably 1/20 is actually being used as a truck. You can’t tow over ~18,000lbs without a CDL lol. But I guess it’s all bragging rights for the pretty boys.

[@jeffs2809]

you can tow over 18K as long as it's for personal use or RV's.

[@a_dog_with_sushi4250]

sad too see it aswell. i see full on dually ram trucks pulling up to my job all clean like they have never put to work a day in there lives

[@redtitan29]

Fully optioned trucks can cost $100K. You resolve that by not buying a fully optioned truck.

[@stgibson2810]

@@redtitan29NO truck should be $100,000. By defending the existence of these trucks makes you, sir, part of the problem.

[@majordanggle]

It’s actually up to 26,000LbS for non cdl drivers

[@randallsmith7124]

I've been holding out for YEARS for a cab change, but looks like it's still years away. My '16 Ram 2500 Tradesman gasser will have to soldier on. I've considered a '24 Rebel or Laramie 2500 gasser, but just don't know if I could stand that hideous grille on the Rebel... and finding one with the 4.10s is nigh on impossible. The dealers are also quite proud of them... maybe a few thousand off for a truck that's a model year old and has been sitting on the lot for over a year... no thanks. Told my local dealer the '25 would be a tough sell for me at anything near MSRP... just for an new set of headlights & taillights... I'll keep what I got.

[@johnneil6653]

I could sit my wife in the 2025 megacab and she would not notice the difference to our 2014 3500 Megacab SRW. On one hand, Ram has not obseleted my truck. Thank you. On the other hand, they continue to remain in the back of the pack. Two generations of "improvement" and the only difference is a transmission and a different oil filter. Given the OD ratios of the new ZF, 3.42 is as big of a mistake now as it was in the 2013-2018 SRW trucks. I don't want to have to tow heavy in direct drive (6th) and labor to push anything larger than the factory (34") tire. Please push an inexpensive upgrade to 3.73 and 4.10 from the factory.

[@scotthelm2026]

Does it still have the lifters with needle bearings that won't last at all?

[@greasebellygarage]

I'm watching this video from my 2001 Powestroke Excursion 4x4 with 421k miles on it planning on another 421k miles.....

[@is6566]

Yeah but that one doesn’t have class leading HP and TQ numbers. How can you survive even a single day in something that’s not class leading in at least something?!!!! 😃

[@greasebellygarage]

@is6566 I see what you did there but you know what. it's kind of nice going to the auto parts store and buying new headlight bulbs for 40 bucks lol

[@LSRG-YT--LandonSRobloxGaming]

@@is6566 Who said you needed over 300 HP and 700 Torques to pull a load? I'd take a 7.3 powerstroke any given day, auto or manual. Can't go wrong with the sound, and they last forever. Plus if you really wanted to amp up the performance, the engine is computerized, meaning you can tune it

[@BrandonLeech]

Yeah but how much of that truck is original?

[@is6566]

@LSRG… Keyword: Sarcasm. 😃

[@tikkin11]

I do not understand why Ram would go to such great lengths to improve power and performance, yet do nothing to improve payload. As Andre points out, they are not serving the lighter rv market that does not want to daily drive a 1 ton truck.

[@843MudMafia.]

U can buy 3500 with a single wheel

[@jeffs2809]

@@843MudMafia. Ram REALLY needs to up their GVWR's on the 2500's or at least offer an upgrade option. My 2017 Ram 2500 payload is only 1800lbs. I have a 22 f-150 with a 1600lb payload and you can get an f250 with as much as a 3K payload. All crew cabs. Reg cab f250 can go up to 3600 lbs if your just looking at max payloads. Now, I KNOW my Ram will handle over 3k payload just fine. So, it's not the coil springs. I think they're just stuck with their 10K mindset. Also, the 3500 wouldn't be a problem for me, some states/insurance companies treat them as commercial vehicles, which could add significant $$.

[@johnneil6653]

Because 10k GVWR is still 10k GVWR. If you don't like it, 3500. Leaf springs are better than tons of suspension links with a heavily loaded rear end. You're saying the "lighter rv" segment would rather daily a 1-ton truck that's labeled 2500 instead of a 1-ton srw that's labeled 3500?

[@shaniyoung6506]

Ram definetely got better. Even before they refreshed it they always had the best interior

[@9663mu]

lol talking about interior on a HD truck means the working part sucks

[@D3athM3tal-i4c]

They needed to refresh the cab size

[@dougcjohn]

I guess that’s an Individual choice… I’m 6’8” and find them cramped, narrow, knees to close to dash, low headroom. Ford SD’s have more room and comfortable seats. The new ‘25 has some improvements, but seats remained pretty much the same… a car bucket seat. Good looking truck in many ways, but Drive train & Interior will be something to watch for opinions.

[@shaniyoung6506]

@dougcjohn Damn. Cramped and low headroom sounds like a mid size pickup situation

[@dougcjohn]

@@shaniyoung6506 ya know… that was my first thought when I closed the door on a 3500 Limited Dually. But, we all have to like something different to make the world go around.

[@motorlane89]

Excited to see to see how this new updated Cummins performs in the long run!

[@SterlingClark-f7h]

It’s not going to perform well at all. It’s not going to be any better then the 2019-2024 garbage

[@SterlingClark-f7h]

That’s not going to happen. lol . My 2019 made it to 94k miles and dropped a valve. No there not wanting to cover it under the warranty all because I put an aftermarket exhaust on the truck. Lmao buy a FORD 450 or 550 cause the Chevy/gmc are junk too

[@rebekahm4919]

Its good to see some change to the hd rams . Cant wait to see all your tests , towing , and good finally led headlights on base models

[@lucassorrenti6841]

You guys missed the oil filter location is different that’s big for guys who maintain their own trucks.

[@greatlakespowerstrokefx4]

@@lucassorrenti6841 cartridge vs canister is a downgrade. Ya its more work to get to but its not that bad. Shouldnt take more than a minute to remove the old oil filter and in the time it drains you can clean the adaptor and just a few seconds to spin a new one on. You just need the right style oil filter pliers because of the limited access.

[@johnneil6653]

@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 on my 2014 I just grab it through the fender liner. Was that really a challenge? The special wrench and plug were $20 and make it a nothingburger.

[@greatlakespowerstrokefx4]

@ right i dont think it is a big deal and its offers no drain back issues. Several things here are an upgrade but that isnt

[@gibsonrocker17]

As a 2016 Cummins owner, there's absolutely nothing they've done up until this point to ever convince me to trade mine in for an updated model. Honestly, if I were to offload mine, I'd probably get a GM or Ford product. Ram has really been left in the dust by these companies and you're absolutely right about the cab design and many of the other "features" just being carry-overs. When I bought mine new, it was no doubt the best bang for the buck... But the competition was making similar power and the features of the Ram were right on par, or even better for less money. At this point, they're really going to need to just redesign the whole truck from the ground up if they want to stay competitive. And Cummins clearly has been scared by the EPA/CARB's "dirty" tactics and is being as conservative as possible. The Cummins may still be a good value in the current market, but I think that's only because they realized they can't compete with their current philosophy. It disappoints me to see Ram and Cummins pretty much bowing to the competition right now and taking the L.

[@thomasluther9211]

My friend there's no better person to judge those vehicles than you your knowledge of those vehicles in their capabilities is profound plus I really like watching you put these trucks to the test in my own opinion I don't think there's a better show out there to do that so in closing I take your opinion of these vehicles very seriously before purchase thank you for your passion and years of knowledge of these grey vehicles this is truly a very informative segment.

[@jdfleetguy28]

No sign of a heads up display. I have that feature in several other vehicles, I really like it, and I am somewhat surprised at not seeing it on the higher RAM trims. I was surprised my 23 Ram 2500 LTD didn’t have it, seems the 25 still doesn’t have it.

[@joseramos7476]

Use the cab from the 1500 and it will be game changing.

[@843MudMafia.]

2027 they change again

[@BF1-P]

What’s wrong with the current cab ?

[@ricklp1861]

Yes the truck is old AF at this point! But... it still looks good!

[@guentherwilke2055]

AFAIK, the DT cab doesn't come in single or mega cab versions.

[@jeffs2809]

@@BF1-P IDK about GM trucks, but Ford cabs are very roomy compared to the Ram HD's. I drive a 22 f350 crew at work and own a 17 Ram 2500 and a 22 f-150. On paper the dimensions are pretty close, in person it's a very noticeable difference.

[@jdfleetguy28]

Awesome video Andre! Really good coverage!

[@IraBurton-i7f]

The question everybody is wanting to know Did they go away from the hydraulic lifters?

[@johnsmith-ym3kx]

@@IraBurton-i7f Still hydraulic. And they went back to glow plugs also.

[@greatlakespowerstrokefx4]

Still hydraulic but hydraulic lifters arent normally bad. The isb was never intended to use them, hopefully when they re designed them they took care of the oil delivery issue and the spinning issue. The engine needed re designed for the hydraulic roller lifters. They had an opportunity to do that, if they didnt shame on them

[@jamesallen7205]

Very nice updates...the refresh adds to its aggressive beefy appearance

[@SithLordCarterII]

The fact that I can get a Chevy or ford HD and pull practically any 5th wheel I want makes buying the 2500 a hard/bad decision. They should have a 11k GWVR option to increase the payload.

[@843MudMafia.]

Idk why they aint do the 11k but i hear they redoing the whole truck in 2027

[@johnneil6653]

They do have that option. 3500 SRW.

[@molinaribp]

Couple of really great changes, the adaptive cruse is a game changer for long trips, and the Longhorn interior is really beautiful! But... there are some scary things too, a ZF transmission with a 'lifetime oil filter', 'the same electrical as the Wagoneer', and brand new fuel pump (to be fair the CP4 didn't exactly set a high bar). Not like I could even pretend to afford one anyway, but it's tough for me to get excited.

[@Byron88]

Another refresh of a 15 year old truck .... It's time for a new cab ram

[@FeatheredDino]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Go buy an SUV. You don't need a truck.

[@SterlingClark-f7h]

Ram sucks

[@johnneil6653]

All the accessories for my 2014 will bolt up to my future 2027.

[@andrewc1036]

Need more room for your adult toys?

[@allencanard979]

Ford kept the original super duty cab fome 99-16, 18 model years. The cab before that 80-96, 17 model years. NOBODY cared or cried. Ram holds on to one and the sky is falling.

[@user-pgchargerse71]

Great presentation Andre, was looking forward to this as I'm wanting to replace my 700,000+ mile 2011 3500.

[@truckguy6.7]

Ram fans, we have been begging for a good transmission for over a decade now. Let's celebrate that.

[@PrivateUsername]

The payload numbers are fine. I'd rather have a significant improvement in quality instead of still having heater or fuel pump failures but with a redesigned cab.

[@TheSeanT99]

Lower payload and towing capacity, ugly grille, same cab size, higher maintenance cost, no 4.10 axle ratio & overpriced 🙄

[@brendanfraser9191]

@@TheSeanT99 they dropped prices, you never see that even if it's only slightly.

[@843MudMafia.]

Why u need a 4:10 when u got 2 more gears

[@eog2423]

​@@843MudMafia.Exactly you dont need 4.10 gear it's all in the transmission

[@aedanhudson1825]

They fixed a lot the changed the cp4 out and gave it a much much better transmission and simplified a lot by only making one high out out motor and not having two different out putsz

[@VFio689]

​​@843MudMafia. I have a 2020 2500 hemi. I would not be happy if my truck had 3.73s. Yes it's no cummins but why take options away

[@TreeCuttersUS]

No hate on Ram they make great trucks too but I just don’t see much with these trucks this year. Fords been doing some good stuff with their engines and body’s lately. Thinking of getting a 2025 F-250

[@NJDAVE]

I think this truck will be just fine, I think people get too carried away with keeping up with the Joneses and not actually looking at what the end-user needs out of a truck. Who cares if the 2500 can’t tow more than 20,000 pounds; you shouldn’t be towing more than 20,000 pounds in a three-quarter ton truck. This isn’t aimed at TFL as this is what their job is as journalists, but people should really be focusing more on operational experience while in the truck rather than crystallized metrics comparing one vehicle to the next. Just my $.02…

[@bri7929]

Thanks RAM, for keeping my 2017 rebal 1500 looking up to date 😂

[@Whatisthis195]

I’m not sure why everyone still raves about this interior. Yeah it was nice 6 years ago, but the competition has caught up. I’m personally a bigger fan of GM’s interior now🤷🏻‍♂️.

[@cameronwulff]

@@Whatisthis195 fan of the fact that gm basically copied the longhorn interior for color and styling?

[@Whatisthis195]

@ lmao where. Brown isn’t copy righted and fords had the king ranch longer. The screen is horizontal over vertical. I’ve owned a Denali ultimate and a longhorn, couldn’t be more different.

[@cameronwulff]

@@Whatisthis195 Denali ultimate literally looks like they tried to copy the longhorn interior but changed it just enough to try and fool people

[@Whatisthis195]

@@cameronwulff strongly disagree but🤷🏻‍♂️

[@kevinwenger6541]

GM has the most uncomfortable interior on the market. I made the mistake of buying a new zr2 2500 chevrolet last year and seeing the new Ram is really making me regret it.

[@gmlover82]

I’m surprised to see a cartridge style oil filter this go around. Also, the more accessible injectors is awesome! I look forward to seeing more about this truck and engine!

[@PETSETAKIS]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 LED LIGHTS -> MORE JOBS TO GET DONE

[@SteveCallsen]

That was pretty good!!!! Maybe he got a bonus for that!! 😅

[@richb8061]

This is the only review I’ve been waiting for. … and can’t wait for some real world testing.

[@SteveCallsen]

Me too!! Now who wants to shell out $75,000 & be the guinea 🐷?? 😊😊

[@ransom8006]

Thank GOODNESS they finally give us a column shifter again. I was about to buy a Chevy cus I hated that knob shifter so much. Not saying the Chevy is a bad choice, but that knob shifter was the last straw for me. Might be a silly reason, but I am who I am 🤷‍♂️

[@843MudMafia.]

U just gone use it to put it in gear that all

[@Yoxicofficial]

Yes 2500 has the column shifter the 1500 probably has knob shifter still

[@ransom8006]

@ I know. I've jumped between a lot of trucks and drive all kinds of them at work. They're both great truck to me, but I was about to settle on a 2500 Silverado until I saw this. It's just not ergonomic to me. I didn't want to drive a truck that just "felt off", even if it would be a great truck. It's a small thing to compromise, maybe. I really just did not like the knob shifter. Actually I don't even like the big vertical 12" screen that ram has. I think it's hideous and obnoxious, BUT I would compromise on the touch screen before I gave into the knob shifter 🤷‍♂️

[@ransom8006]

@ that's ok. People still buy em. They're popular trucks. I'm not in the market for a 1500, so I'm good with that.

[@jeffs2809]

@ never liked the shift knob either. But, we don't really know if it's gone across the board or not, just that it isn't getting added to diesel trucks. Could still be in the gas versions.

[@justsomerandomguyman]

Going with the ZF 8 speed is definitely the major upgrade here. ZF makes excellent transmissions.

[@GMF215]

13:18 seems more like a Fiat I-6 manufactured by Cummins. If they want us to believe it’s a Cummins then make it a solid flat tappet again, make it the same as the commercial version, and make it last more than 100k. The 2019+ “Cummins” are junk. Somehow Ford is making way more power, the Power Stroke is lasting longer, and it’s getting better mileage. You’re doing it wrong Ram.

[@Bill-xg1ey]

Better PS, bad trans.

[@josephpuchel6497]

Hey Andre excellent content. I think LED lighting should be standard. The redefined Cummins engine and 8 speed HD ZF transmission is an excellent combination. I think they should go back to leaf sprung on the 2500.

[@TFLtruck]

Thank you for watching and the feedback.

[@timkopp2204]

TFL is part of the reason truck prices are SO HIGH. I saw this trend 20 years ago in the snowmobile industry. Every review was the same. We NEED more power, more options, longer this, bigger that, better shocks, fancier electronics. We DONT NEED OR WANT 100K TRUCKS! We need a truck that works hard, plays hard and is AFFORDABLE

[@hully3167]

Redo a OBS with newer powertrain n very basic. PW PDL AC N mirrors. I’d buy that

[@johnneil6653]

Agreed. I want a new 2006 duramax again, but my 2014 megacab with 80k miles will need to suffice until that happens.

[@stuartstogdill2406]

Completely false.

[@hully3167]

@@stuartstogdill2406?

[@timkopp2204]

@johnneil6653 I hear ya! I just restored my low mile 07 Cummins Megacab. It's going to last me a long, long time! I want to restor my 01 Cummins next. Love my "old" trucks.

[@AccountantByDay553]

man its like the old 12valve but with some futuristic stuff. seems awesome!

[@peterjanvanbijnen226]

nothing can beat an cummins i wished that they put an 4 cyl cummins in the jeeps

[@AndrewLee-cg6uk]

sorry the 7.3 was a better motor in the time period

[@clifft7832]

Virtually everything beats the Cummins.

[@Goatman31]

Cummins beats a 6.0 and that’s about it. But nothing will take its crown of worst sounding diesel on the market

[@davidcaskey4669]

​@@AndrewLee-cg6ukI had Dura max and the 7.3 but the truck I always fall back to if i need to pull heavy its my 5.9 . A stright 6 will always out pull a V8. The 5.9 was designed to go in a truck with a 65,000 lb gvwr never seen a 7.3 or a dura max in something like that or yard horse moving 40,000 lb+trailers around warehouses all day. They maybe out there I just haven't seen one

[@davidcaskey4669]

@Goatman when you hear that sound roll up on the job you know the bog dog is here. I'd rather have 6 horses standing ready for work than 8 laying down

[@carlpreston1680]

I wish you would have done an overview of that first gen in the background

[@sandcrewus1362]

Anyone else hear a ticking sound

[@TheGoodTheBadTheRowdy]

2016 high miled but clean body tundra that lived under car port, engine gave its ghost up. 5.9L swap, stick, custom interior, have fridge as my console...trd pro grill, led headlight swap out, flat utl bed with fold down sides, my 4 season camper was custom made in japan, and is actually for a hilux, so its pretty small, just enough room for me and my dog inside haha. small marine camp stove, some wood, lifes good. truck started also as a rwd version, was converted. sides of the camper are used for storage as doesnt occupy whole utl bed. have a heavily modified Royal Enfield Scram 411 that I bought wrecked on FBMP, for a few hundred bucks, and makes a great errand running bike, using 2 harbor freight apache orange boxes for side cargo, that goes on a bumper mounted system, all still cheaper then these new trucks, good lord...

[@shawnsack1]

I don't understand the request for new cab and new chassis. If it works why change it?

[@Brent-jx1oq]

Well the 1990 cab worked why change from that?

[@shawnsack1]

Bc it didn't work. It was too noisy, didn't meet any crash standards, too small, trans tunnel wouldn't fit new transmissions, went the opposite way, anything else?

[@redtitan29]

The crew is small compared to its competitors. While I prefer the Mega Cab others don’t like its appearance. The 1500 cab everyone is waiting for is larger with a completely flat floor. Every dimension is the current Ram HD is smaller than the competition.

[@skwlogistics3698]

I love that new red color, no name for it yet. Glad there is still a megacab.

[@ryankolt7341]

They should have brought back the Manual trans.

[@843MudMafia.]

Not happen

[@zelenizub2036]

I wish, but manual transmissions are becoming rare sight in semi trucks too😢.

[@janorban]

Yes much more fun.

[@C10sRule]

2.4 kw is definitely enough to run the new A/C units on truck campers. There’s even the ultra low profile 12V A/C units. There’s even campers don’t need huge A/C units as they are smaller. If it was up to me I would get a 3500 cab & chassis. Then I would find the truck camper I want, get it delivered to a local builder of truck decks in aluminum. They could do a custom built deck with removable side boxes so I could use the truck several ways . With the camper, without, but keep the deck boxes and they do a nice expanded metal tailgate you can put on & take off. , or snap off the boxes & use it as a flat deck. You could have a king pin in the deck to us for gooseneck towing as well. They become so much more versatile (and expensive, that deck & boxes is a dearly priced build. They will have your unit for up to a month. Now, of course you can do this with Ford as well. Another consideration is your own batter set up. LiFePo4 batteries are so good now! Have an alternator designated to charging the batteries only and solar on the roof of the camper, 2 x 48 v, 300 ah batteries and a strong inverter. You will have 3.5 kw of power, can run any A/C unit that can be maintained just with solar for hours & hours. (6-8 depending on the unit & sunshine). When you drive, you charge the batteries & quickly as well! The LiFePo4 batteries can handle the huge draws & fast recharges this system will have. You keep the alternator and all of the power system separate from what powers the truck otherwise and life’s good!! 😊😊 Adding this is comparable to paying for the onboard power of Ford or Ram, likely similar weight, but more capability. I had a portable 12V 400 ah system I used in the past. It was great! Even in the winter. I had a small wind generator on the topper I used as well as the rest I mentioned. Now it’s set up on a cart and we use it like a 3.0 kw rolling generator with the capabilities of those ridiculously all in one “generators). It gets used & borrowed a lot! It just has a 150 watt portable solar panel to go with it. It can also be charged with 120 or 240 v wall plugs. Soooo many options!!! To each their own!! The updates the truck really needed have been addressed & in the next update they could redo the cab & interior. Maybe do an all aluminum cab for weight savings & better payloads,,,,. Thanks Andrey!!

[@alexmills1329]

Do yourself a favor and get a 4500 over the 3500 every time. The wide front axle is a real quality of life upgrade, you can make significantly tighter turns.

[@C10sRule]

@ True. Might have to research that. Thanks.

[@1970351C2V]

Yawn

[@dinsdaleseven1627]

I recently used a heavy duty ram and the interior quality was excellent. It rode better than any other hd truck I've driven and the power never let me down. I also think they are the best looking truck right now. All that from a life long Ford guy.

[@joedoakes8307]

That Window Sticker fits your personna perfectly , No numbers just BS !

[@jdfleetguy28]

Anyone see if the added a telescopic steering column. It has always stuck me as odd that the RAM HD was missing that feature. Best I could tell it is still missing that feature.

[@johnneil6653]

Does power adjustable pedals not get the job done, while eliminating another point of slop in worn steering components?

[@jdfleetguy28]

@@johnneil6653 Not really the same thing, I would much rather have a telescopic wheel over power pedals.

[@johnneil6653]

@@jdfleetguy28 I don't entirely disagree. Being 6'3", both would be nice but I think we're going to get one or the other on any given platform.

[@dallasfrost1996]

Here in New Zealand we only get Ram 2500/3500's in a Laramie trim, hopefully there'll be more cheaper trims added to our lineup. These upgrades are pretty nice though.

[@LarryVeblungsnes]

I did not like the black grill, but the Sport looks fantastic! I hope they really did make the improvements quality and not just minor changes.

[@tylervanry5253]

I agree that I like the headlights but that's because I'm a Chevrolet fan and split headlights are their signature.

[@holdsy6742]

May have missed if you mentioned it or not but they also changed to glow plugs instead of grid heater

[@TFLtruck]

Yes. That is correct.

[@nathanbeaner928]

Smirnoff those are LED reflector headlamps @1:28 on the 3500 tradesmen

[@JsGarage]

Being the same, mostly unchanged truck makes it pretty disappointing. Diesel and transmission update is nice but hard to look past the lack of platform upgrade.

[@Jaso0n1986]

I feel with the mega cab, why not make the backseat moveable forward and back, and place the storage somewhere in the bed. Idk just my thought. Make the cab feel bigger. Mega cab you are getting a basics 2500 seating except for the ability to recline the back seat, eye roll there. They could have done more but I think failed. Updated powertrain and engine updates are great. But GM and Ford has the aesthetics down. More appealing

[@doomsdaydiesel]

According to Ram's commercial, 1st gear is 4.71, not 4.89 like the list of rumored ratios suggested.

[@andybailes3537]

I’m probably only one who was mainly hoping for a slightly longer bed in the standard bed size. 6’4” is just too tight. Ford and GM got it right at 6’10”.

[@MilanPalushaj-uh3df]

I truly believe it’s gonna be a very good truck. Thank you for the excellent review. Thank God, they have the oil dipstick 😊

[@kanaletumlinson]

I can see the digital aux switches being problematic especially with issues the Uconnect headunit has had, if it is out of warranty the 8.4 head unit is just over $1k to replace it through a aftermarket dealer with OEM radio. Overall very nice truck, not too many changes overall it’s more cosmetic. I’ll be going a 6.4 Hemi. Coming from a 6spd 66rfe the 8spd was great in my 1500.

[@hdfsfjhfkalsjfhlsaj]

In the next report explain the the Cummins numbers if you remove all the emissions, aka the military version.

[@kacoos]

Have to wait and see if this new cp4 pump holds up, but seriously wish they went back to the solid lifters, way to many cummins having lifter problems. But thankfully they finally got rid of that dang heater grid bolt issue!!!

[@lylekrannichfeld9634]

Any idea if the 3500 mega cab 6'4" bed dually is still available? It's nowhere to be seen on the website builder...gutted if it's gone.

[@briangabriel4165]

I would have thought they would habe come out with bigger power numbers but maybe thats the plan for future years, add a few each year.

[@jpfurrow7445]

No mention of the turbos... I understand that there are some changes in the future for them. It will be interesting to see how that goes. It will also be interesting to see how they handle the USMCA changes coming or if it will be a non-issue.

[@timkopp2204]

Other reviews say a new 10 blade vgt for better spool up/response. Check out Josh at Truk Stuf

[@CraigSmith568]

My favorite was that red and white single cab.

[@mario-sl6cz]

Thankgod the hemi is getting the column shifter back what a win

[@MrEmalgamist]

Genuine question about the video. Was that 2 fuel filters I saw on the intake side of the engine? So no more rear chassis filter? That makes life easier for me if that's the case. Also, I would had liked to see what the new cartridge oil filter looks like (seen on the turbo side). Also looking at that upper valve cover, it almost looks like it's shrink wrapped around the current PCV-Filter setup, I don't find it as aesthetically pleasing, but I guess they had to rework it with the exposed injectors now. Not sure how I feel about that. Also saw that the intake is now side-draft versus being fed from the top, so I bet that helps in engine packaging to some degree. Hopefully that means being able to more easily service the intake side to clean out carbon without having to remove the fuel lines. About the fuel pump. Rumor has it that it's another iteration of the CP4 pump. If they did indeed re-engineer it, it would be nice to see what they actually did. The biggest issue is the plungers spinning in their bore and the roller getting chewed up sending shrapnel through the engine. I think GM is using a Delphi unit or something.

[@joshknutson16]

interested to see how the new 8 speed does

[@allencanard979]

3:46 in the video, all the owners or potential owners who insist on using 15/40 oil....DONT! This marks the 7th model year of that change, it'll be interesting to see if the clear directions/warnings are followed.

[@seangrant2460]

Can you ask RAM why they've never done a RAM Box in the Dually bed configuration. I would think that would make more sense since you get so much more room. Would love to see that happen on upcoming models! Thanks Amazing channel and have been a day 1 fan.

[@algorithm-w7o]

I like Ram and I hate being so poor I could not get a new 2500. But thanks for the video.

[@ShannonJanzen]

Is it over head cam or push rod?

[@kwslhs]

I bought a 2024 2500 CrewCab Cummins and I'm fine with that decision. I'm towing 6000 and fine with the old drivetrain. Got a good deal on it also. I'm glad to see they haven't screwed the pooch in 2025. I don't understand the concern about the cab design. If it ain't broke - don't fix it.