Are more high-rise apartments the solution to the housing crisis? | 7.30

Planning laws across Australia are set to be overhauled in an effort to speed up the construction of 1.2 million homes in already established suburbs.
While the policy announced by national cabinet is being spruiked as the solution to our nation's housing crisis, experts warn there are serious risks to our way of life if we don't get it right. Rhiana Whitson reports.
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[@infernalstan886]

Definitely not with the current lack of enforced building regulations. We need to build housing that doesn't fall apart in a couple of years!

[@sinnersaid]

Starting to look like china around here

[@janegarnham]

Yes and with lots of green space.

[@andrewmica1914]

Blame the nap Lan education multiple choice questions.

[@joebloggs6131]

What about already constructed, modular frameworks such as shipping containers? stacked and restrained, openings already cut, lifted into place by crane... you'd have new floors every day that construction occurred!

[@Sagealeena]

@@joebloggs6131 It’s been tried but it just doesn’t work. Shipping containers lose structural integrity as soon as you cut into them, and they’re not insulated. Modularity doesn’t work because houses need services like electricity, gas, water, internet, and sewage. We don’t really need new solutions, we can look to the past to see what worked and how our cities were designed. In Melbourne that’s mainly terrace houses, we can go a little taller but no more than three stories really, sometimes with a store on the ground floor. Smaller, energy efficient floor plans are good, but we need minimum room size requirements because some places are really freaking tiny and basically unliveable even as student housing. We also have good medium density blocks of “flats” from the 70s etc in places like Brunswick (many of which now need renovations to continue working well but they’re structurally sound) and they’re usually three to six stories, and leave open green space on the plot of land. The design of them is sturdy, sometimes energy efficient but often not, but not to all modern tastes. We can have this kind of sturdy, medium density housing that fits with the area and that people actually want to live in. This kind of housing also works very well for social housing as it means people can still live amongst their community. Some places do need ultra high density housing because of how much employment has been centralised, but Melbourne already has too much ultra high density housing and buildings in places like Southbank are sitting empty

[@davidmc105]

It's not for everyone but many people are happy with this lifestyle. What bothers me is that developers develop for profit, squeeze more in. It's rare to see a 3 bedroom apartment where a family can live longer. I often visit Singapore where the norm is high rise apartments but they are mostly 3 bedroom.

[@zAlaska]

Building a Cooperative apartment complex, minus profits, one can even get a dishwasher without the luxury apartment label, at least the price won't be luxury.

[@yuva]

Singapore's only option is to go high rise because of land scarcity and 80% of housing is built by the government. This only works because government also owns most of the land and there's very smart allocation of this land for housing, industrial, parks & rec, mixed use etc via 99 year leases. It is difficult to properly plan and build in alignment with national needs if government doesn't have tight control over land to begin with. But having govt control land can also be a problem. It works in Singapore because of the small size and also the way government works. That being said, I do think market forces will normalise apartment living which is a norm in European cities. Perhaps one way would be for govt to strategically purchase land in cities and then sell 99 year leases to developers with tight regulation on what can be built. This is to force a particular long term outcome in areas that need that.

[@mattlyons2070]

If people can't get a place to live with more than 2 bedrooms, then they won't have more than 1 child

[@caitlin7932]

Exactly! Then they cry that nobody is having kids...but to have kids often means you have to move out west and get a grey cookie cutter house just for the extra bedroom

[@sarcasmo57]

I will never give up my 2 hour commute and Saturday lawn mowing. I also love driving 20 mins to grab a bottle of milk.

[@baits9301]

It's just media hype to push people into shoe box living . like china and india .

[@Ineluki_Myonrashi]

If that's what works for you, good.

[@Kazmu]

but does it really have to be a 2 hour commute

[@janebaker4912]

​@@Ineluki_Myonrashiummmmm.... sarcasm, dude.

[@Ineluki_Myonrashi]

@@janebaker4912 Well then, if that's what works for them......good as well 😆. It MIGHT be sarcasm, but I know people in the lower blue mountains just outside Sydney with this exact attitude soooooo....

[@CatsandJP]

I worked for the Housing Industry Association and they predicted this back in 1990 that Australia would have a housing crisis in the future and high rise would be the possible solution…but I will not live in a building that is subject to cracking, dodgy builds, blockage with sewage or in the case of the floods in Brisbane no lift access because of no electricity…

[@passportbroasia]

700k and no car space...

[@vinnieriley7227]

Nation wide the housing stock is about 75% detached houses, and the rest is denser types. Even getting to a 60% / 40% split of detached and dense housing stock would greatly increase supply. All while giving people the choice to live in whatever they prefer. When apartments get approved they have to be in areas with public transport, recreation, employment, education, retail, and other necessities and ammenities very close by. I happily live in a denser neighbourhood if most daily needs are a short walk away. There's no point in building apartments on the outskirts of cities in suburbs that have nothing but sprawling detached houses.

[@harrypass1252]

Exactly and I think that's the issue. There is a huge focus on housing but they think once everyone has a home there job is done. They treat services hospitals schools jobs roads public transport shopping centres entertainment as second fiddle the sick cousin of housing. Where in reality those 2 things should go home in hand. I also hate how the media purely makes this as a demand and supply issue when there other factors in place. Building more luxury apartments is not going to get less people homeless or get more people into social housing. But what it will do will be to help the property developer make a lot more money. Not to mention 1 million homes are empty and property investors got negative gearing franking credits and capital gains tax to make money off. If governments want us to radically change our lives and for us to accept more density they have to get there priorities straight and build in the interests that will actually help the community.

[@36paris]

@@harrypass1252well said, Fred 👏

[@harrypass1252]

@36paris That my new nickname Fred haha thanks as well context matters on these issues but so many just see it as black and when in reality an issue like Development and housing is a lot more complicated

[@Sagealeena]

I think medium density mixed use near train stations is a really good start

[@harrypass1252]

@Sagealeena Yeah true but it's got to be gradual development not radical changes that don't align with the community interests

[@williamcrossan9333]

7:15: Goodness! 720K and you don't get a car space? Yep, we have a problem with housing affordability. Although this couple obviously don't, as they are spending 15% on housing costs.

[@OilBaron100]

I was shocked at that too. Only 15% of their income? They must be surgeons or dermatologists. $720K would buy a four-bedroom house where I live.

[@williamcrossan9333]

Indeed, and I get the impression the 15% is the total including rates / water / body corp etc. They must be on some serious coin!@@OilBaron100

[@mitchellattwood]

The state should absolutely take the planning controls away from the local councils and give them towards a non-biased state entity method. Local councils and residents have been absolutely abusing the planning system, delaying housing construction by years and making places less dense and liveable all for their own housing profits

[@bign1667]

I think you're onto something because it would stop councils outsourcing work to businesses that are not qualified or fit for purpose, not qualified and scamming people

[@chrisaycock5965]

This is what happens here in California. All the time... It's spread around the globe like a plague.

[@36paris]

NIMBYs?

[@winnkey]

Make a vacancy tax. Any property sitting unoccupied for more than 6 months is heavily taxed. More properties developed for the investor market is not the solution!

[@amac2612]

the current state of urban planning everywhere in australia is atroscious, its the same no matter where you are. its simply clear a bit of bush, throw in some culdesacs of single family single story detached homes with no access to public transport, no walkability to shops or amenities. seems in afew years bathurst will be amalgamated into western sydney the way we build our cities.

[@anastasiabeaverhausen5467]

None of it is better than what we’ve lost. None of it.

[@angsua4965]

They are not family friendly and too expenssive for regular people to rent / buy. The new buildings have tiny rooms, that don't even have a space for a shoe shelves! Crazy how the greedy developers built the new apartments nowadays just for single people / international students to live in.

[@Reoh0z]

Building up needs to include building up the transport infrastructure. I've seen the plans for my neighbourhood. Looks great... if you ignore the same tiny roads that will need to support ten times the traffic.

[@KiwiCatherineJemma]

I disagree that (as stated 8m05s) "Apartment living is the only way out of renting". Stopping Investors, Flippers and Landlords from buying up, and literally "hoarding" older houses, is the "way out of renting". Leaving the existing homes to be bought by the actual people who are going to live in them.

[@nickjohn4963]

I’m not saying it’s the only way either, I think it has to be part of it but what do you mean by hoarding? If they’re an investor then there’ll be a tenant in it, if they want to flip it then they won’t be holding it for long and if they’re a landlord then well that’s the same as an investor. The only instance I can think of is vacant land and there’s not that much of it around (close to city centres) otherwise we wouldn’t have this problem.

[@36paris]

@@nickjohn4963 i’m not sure what exactly they’re referring to in this comment, but my take on ‘hoarding’ is that there are a truckload of properties, all over Australia, that are used for short-term rentals on Airbnb. But the majority of the time they are sitting empty. I’ve known about this for a while but no one was able to confirm real numbers on how many empty houses. I just watched a video from ABC about it. There was a researcher who has worked out the actual figures and it’s pretty high. For example, there are 4,100 homes that are on air bnb sitting empty just in the Melbourne area.

[@royalcoconutchannel]

Yes! But there has to be tighter regulations for strata/ body corporate companies.

[@sarahb4401]

Make bigger apartments!! The 2 bedroom shoe boxes in all these big high rises which have tiny rooms, a galley kitchen and barely any storage space cannot house a family!

[@tonybloomfield5635]

In Victoria, at least, decentralization and regional growth is off the table as our pothole ridden rural road and highway network cannot cope with existing traffic loads, let alone more. We have road worthy cars but not car worthy roads.

[@chevrolet-poitiers9507]

As someone who travels quite often on regional roads, I have failed to notice potholes on the majority of routes.

[@bradleypout1820]

While I appreciate your perspective, @chevrolet-poitiers9507, it's crucial to recognize that the issue at hand extends beyond mere potholes. In Victoria, the concern isn't just the condition of our rural roads but the growing traffic congestion that plagues them. If you happen to live in Werribee or any of the Western suburbs and regularly venture outside these areas for work, you'll quickly understand the essence of the original point. It's not about undermining the absence of potholes on some routes; it's about addressing the broader traffic challenge that's impeding regional growth and decentralization efforts. 🚗🛣

[@CharlieMacGuffin]

Let's fill the empty properties before we build more substandard highrise apartments. Why is the government and media not talking about all the empty properties? Why should an overseas investor be permitted to own a property and not put a tenant in it?

[@amielmatt]

Not gonna work unless they can be built WELL. Why would I buy into potential financial suicide but cracking badly built building.

[@Moskoe]

There is a whole country outside of MEL & SYD that wasn’t even mentioned in this story.

[@Alice_Sydney]

Rushed apartment job can be more problem for owners to pay. Do not settle until repairs are done, even if agent tells you sign and can be fixed after. Once settle then say not approved for repair😮 not a good experience.

[@mitchellattwood]

It helps! Melbourne has far more high rises than sydney and a unit is cheaper there than a lot of the other cities across the country because Melbourne has been building heaps throughout the years

[@curiousinvestigator5448]

Any references? I've always thought Sydney is higher density certainly there are high density developments in a much broader area.

[@leoc675lt]

​@@curiousinvestigator5448yeah I thought so too, Sydney has the most high rises but Melbourne has the most skyscrapers, hence a much denser CBD core of Melbourne than Sydney

[@loboirra1135]

Some thought that hyper inflation was only prevalent in the Germany & Zimbabwe ... well here it is ... 2millon for a 2 bedroom apartment🤔🤔🤨🤨🤨

[@brettpitman3718]

ehhhh none of the new apartments are cheap because most of them are falsely advertised as luxury homes

[@danielrichardson3613]

We live in the lowest population density continent in the world. What nonsense. Build the infrastructure.

[@joebloggs6131]

Most of it is unusable though as it is desert

[@ponzitizen]

​@@joebloggs6131really, how much of VIC, NSW, SA, QLD, PTH is desert...

[@joebloggs6131]

@@ponzitizen The answer is, a shit-ton of SA & QLD, somewhat in NSW, and not really in VIC. As Australia doesn't have an acronym PTH I'll just think you are illiterate.

[@detectiveofmoneypolitics]

Economic investigator Frank G Melbourne Australia is still watching this very informative content cheers Frank

[@vernonwhite4660]

High rise is not the answer mixed mid level rise is preferable . Services ie schools etc cannot cope at present. High rise also create heat sinks if town planning is not controlled

[@l33tr4n55]

Removing negative gearing like the Kiwis ... Affordable price is possible

[@jackryan2135]

Some building standards might be an idea before you start building 1.2 million new dwellings. Australia has the construction standards of a third world shanty town.

[@samueldanby]

A lovely story well told!

[@lokesh303101]

Yes! I hope the reforms are pushed through Regional Area's Cities and Towns.

[@niallkorenskaya5067]

Declare z4 1 or 2km area from station and build high rise.

[@chris_yang]

What's the music track at the start?

[@KingAngel4Life]

CA has so many unfinished unaffordable apartment developments. It’s ridiculous. Over $2,000 and up. $2,000 is considered affordable. Sick

[@4dbullshitpatroll6]

Cell blocks

[@baits9301]

If your lucky you might get 30mins of sunlight and even luckier to have a 1sqm balcony . just enough room for a clothes line .

[@KingAngel4Life]

I think subsidized and affordable is being confused with greedy and sensible.

[@muneebbasit8519]

Single-use buildings will end up creating a high-density sprawl crisis in a few years. It would be better to allow ground+few stories to be non-residential.

[@kreagle]

Smarter use of land makes sense. Urban sprawl only adds to cost of infrastructure, wasting time spent commuting. Hopefully the land around Chadstone becomes medium density with a rail connection under the shopping centre

[@thepotager9816]

How about investing in rural areas? Oh, that’s right it’s not as PROFITABLE

[@MyPepex]

with the build quality in Australia for apartments just thinking of buying one feels like playing Russian roulette with a deposit. mascot towers anyone?

[@joebloggs6131]

Prefer a builder-designed pre-fab house, flat-packed on a truck and transported where you want it. Unload it with a small crane onto the foundations, and spend a half-dozen hours assembling it. Probably do it all in a day if the foundation was ready.

[@0401412740]

Stop foreign ownership

[@macalacalan1175]

No it won’t. Only reducing immigration will. Beginning in 1995 we experienced a massive increase in immigration. Along with our children, the children of those immigrants are now also in the market searching for houses. That’s why there’s a housing crisis - although big business, the housing industry, the media and politicians will never talk about it.

[@sinnersaid]

Not a chance with the standard of work currently deemed acceptable by building regulators not to mention cowboy developers who flee back to the Middle East when their Rort is exposed 😂😂 congratulations mrs nassif, you liiiiike?

[@cressida00]

As an Australian, I have no faith in the government to fix this problem. Australia is hamstrung by multi levels of political legislation. Disconnect from local government to federal is massive, with a state government thrown in. Look at Australia's infrastructure, any of it. Istanbul showed me just how bad we are. Turkiye built a huge international airport with 3 runways, expanding to 6!!!. All done in just a handful of years.

[@nevilleabbott2330]

2 million dollar 2 bed apartment not quite in the affordable market realm, 😂 , no shit !!

[@VanyaYani]

Yes

[@the_black_douglas9041]

If you’re a developer in NSW you sidestep the ban on political donations by becoming a politician. Scrutinise councils and you’ll find plenty of examples.

[@coopsnz1]

High taxes the problem not capitalism

[@the_black_douglas9041]

@@coopsnz1 eh? Nope. And completely unrelated to what I said.

[@chrise7359]

Creating more building space and lowering restrictions is not a solution, it will only encourage more dodgy builders. How does high rise living help build communities (I'm not convinced by the family who congregate in compacted areas and live in a shoebox as a family of four)? Why doesn't the government ease land prices and stamp duty, provide cheaper loans for new couples and restrict overseas investment? The argument that more housing stock will drive inflation does not address the fact that 10% of those Box Hill apartments have been snapped up by overseas investors.

[@jr800w]

And turn the into little Mumbai residential area slums. Apartments are a good idea but not with the way migration policies are.

[@hunterrogersmusic]

I think about how the Italians, Spanish and Greeks in their respective countries have their homes (especially in the non-historical areas) as high-rises with floor plans similar to the suburban homes here, also with mixed zoning! And then I see most developments in the suburbs here in Australia, and most people just have an entire block without a garden.

[@capitalismisdivisionofevil8322]

Time to spread people out across thier countries and live 1 person to 1 acre minimum to STOP the prison living standards!

[@JamesFFiT]

I’m in Brisbane and I’m sick of seeing inner city train stations with vacant land around them! Prime example Wooloowin to Albion to Bowen hills corridor!

[@chrisbrown-jw4ce]

I think residents in inner city especially will have to make some concessions and stop trying to stop or delay, the building of more new developments which is essential in the current housing crisis, which seems to be why local governments are loosing control to the state.

[@oneeleven9832]

Why would you bring 3 kids up in a high rise 🤦‍♂️

[@taiyah_byron]

No... because with so many faulty buildings and houses, why would anyone buy a flat or house built by dodgy builders, developers and approved by "qualified building inspectors".

[@jackdhillic7400]

No crisis for those with properties - values continue to rise by doble digits each year.

[@Paul-qq7mh]

First of all, fix the Victorian Building Authority then worry about building high rises..

[@brentwhitehouse5773]

Spot the Aussie

[@ponzitizen]

I have a better idea... What about we sleep people in coffins and at least it will be easier to bury the middle class... Seriously, stop tax incentives to investors and businesses in capital cities and direct this investment into new regional areas... Australia needs to grow outwards not upwards and causing overcrowding... The capital cities will still grow albeit a little slower but at least the infrastructure can catch up which is at least 10 years behind at the same time regional areas can grow... Doesn't make sense to have a big Australia policy crammed into capital cities...

[@ponzitizen]

Doesn't make sense to have a big Australia policy crammed into capital cities, tax incentives should be directed outwards not upwards... Goodbye middle class and traditional family...

[@coopsnz1]

That what socalism does shrinks the middle class, why China has no middle class 90% live in public housing apartments or cooking cuting public housing neighbourhood

[@carmelbrain7399]

never

[@infernalstan886]

Maybe not never, but not now and not at a large scale

[@colindiplock]

As Dutton might say, NO. Dose the ABC have a concept of maths equations?

[@rodneyirwin4450]

Sydney is unliveable now When it takes 1 hour to drive 10km home from work at 1.30pm today The answer isn’t building up and more immigration Sydney is chock a block can’t wait to leave

[@laurens4561]

If only there was an option between houses and high rises....

[@Loganhon]

Town houses are a good in between or terrace housing is more high density than detached property. This is common in the Uk but I don’t know if this is so in Aus.

[@laurens4561]

@@Loganhon Would be interesting to understand why there aren't more new townhouses being built.

[@bign1667]

Thank you for doing this story. We also need to address the old homes that probably need to he knocked down and rebuilt with modern homes (not more units) instead of granny flats in the back yards.

[@KiwiCatherineJemma]

I think Granny Flats in back or front yards are an excellent idea. Enabling several generations of families to live together. Older people can stay in a home with family support longer, and poorer smaller families can have flatmates to help pay their mortgage costs. Friends of mine in Perth WA had a granny flat built in their front yard some years ago. This has enabled Grandma to live semi-independently for many years while also being able to help keep an eye on younger children as the children also help keep an eye on grandma. It really has been a "win-win", for that whole family. The original main house was old, but fully serviceable, but too small for the entire family to be comfortably accommodated.

[@andrewmica1914]

Gettos of the future...

[@tanvi7532]

I think most of these high rises near train stations can lead to congestion. In glen Waverley the school zone could not cope and now its hard to drive to the mall or eatwries . As the rest of the infrastructure was not ready. Mixed development is needed to improve amenties along with housing. Medium density is the way to go and spread it rather then put one or two large apartments and call it fixed with no further thought

[@wickedleeloopy2115]

All of springvale road from springvale to box Hill will eventually likely become highrise buildings if people continue to migrate from asian countries. 😂 the more people , the more housing is needed. 😮 its a never ending cycle

[@rosariodagosto6484]

NO THANK YOU LIKE LIVING IN A BOX 😊😊😊

[@coopsnz1]

That Singapore " Hong Kong & china life borderline communism the government owns 90%

[@baits9301]

Might have to grow some grass on the balcony , if your lucky to get one , incase you forget what grass feels like ' and to fill the cracks in the poor workmanship .

[@biff2105]

No they fall down! Have a look at the Mascot apartments oh yeah chuck in C-19 apartments are no the go!

[@garmy441]

....you have a population of only 26 million you live on a continent with a huge land mass, and you can't satisfy the people's need for houses....this is a big of scam ..you are not worthy of this land mass better give it to China and Indonesia and you keep a piece of land similar to Romania and it will still be a lot for you.... same goes for Canadians

[@mickl6661]

Money. Why they built and sell all to investors

[@bobmarshall3700]

High rise ghettos are a legacy of 1960s Britain..... Suicides, mental health issues, crime and social issues were/are rampant. Why is it that nobody ever learns? Follow the money I guess! Politicians looking for a quick fix to look after their wealthy developer mates!

[@Paddy234]

You can't compare the high rise apartments of the impoverished areas of the UK in the 60's to the economically wealthy areas of Sydney and Melbourne today.

[@zAlaska]

Housing above the ground floor is less prone to flooding. Perhaps that's a checkmark to add in the formula, do we want high-rise buildings? And the thieves can't climb through the windows. Another checkbox, for sure. Concerts at 11:30 at night, he sleeps days, works at night, gets woke up by the garbage truck once a week at midnight, noon-4 everybody else. What's not to love about that?

[@K4ReeL187]

4:45 locals, local community/mayors etc should have more say on what gets developed & plan for future impacts

[@Kokoda144]

It is good for the environment. Or we could just keep sprawling over native habitat and farms

[@williamcrossan9333]

Well the Greens MP in my area, doesn't believe in wider roads. Even though subdivisions and townhouses keep getting built. And Moggill road is already clogged.

[@joebloggs6131]

When you build a road that terminates at a bend in the river with no real alternative into town, expect it to be busy!

[@tripledigit4835]

Expanding the road an extra lane does not actually prevent congestion. It only decreases land space and temporarily opens up the road. The long term solution to mitigating traffic on roads is quite simple, it’s have less drivers on the road. This can only be done by increasing and expanding public transportation. More people in trains, trams and buses means less people in cars. Road congestion doesn’t exist in Singapore because only 11% of the population own cars. This is because of high taxes on cars and high stamp duty on a drivers license.

[@harrypass1252]

I feel so sorry for you that you have a Greens mp 😂

[@harrypass1252]

​@@tripledigit4835Many in Australia drive cars. Australia is a rapidly growing country. Therefore we need roads which have more lanes and better more efficient public transport. Stop putting your ideology and denying real changes that are needed in this country.

[@harrypass1252]

​@tripledigit4835 Yes it does stop congestion having more lanes on road when your population is rapidly growing. Stop lying 😂 There will always be drivers on the road you wont change that regardless if they will be in an electric or petrol vehicle. What also helps is having great public transport bus trains that are much more frequent and are located in thr correct areas near main roads train stations schools hospitals and shopping centres. Same goes with density we will need to build up as well as out to deal with the ever increasing population. As you guys like to say either we adapt or we die. But that doesn't mean locals shouldn't have a say on how the future of there communities look like. But I am sure Greens mps will just ignore anyone that even slightly disagrees with there wild ideas.

[@philipc2208]

Opal and Mascot towers. I’m off to Spain.

[@benjamingriswold2564]

No.

[@infernalstan886]

There may be some good spots in CBDs to do it, but mostly I agree with you. However, if we do I suggest we start near Kirribilli House 😅

[@miketran4289]

Apartment living might look good when it's new but it will turn into a nightmare in a decade or two when these apartments end up turning into ghettos or like Redfern's blocks.

[@infernalstan886]

Many have to be abandoned long before that stage due to major structural faults

[@baits9301]

They only have 70 year life expectancy before they need to be demolished .

[@jamesbacon4207]

Surely mid rise. High rises are okay in some places, but mid rise or medium density like older suburbs are just nice.

[@whitneyanders5945]

Of course we need to build up. Most of the world lives in apartments but Australians think they are to good to live in apartments or denser housing. Living within easy access of shops and public transport and things to do is a good thing. It also helps out the unique wildlife we have by not encroaching on their habitats as they too have every right to live in peace.

[@coopsnz1]

Public housing is apartment in Northern Europe

[@joebloggs6131]

Vertical Zonation makes sense, it would happen very quickly in SE Asia with dense population... but not in Australia because some family want city views or complain that it's too cold in the shade of tall building 😂 NIMBYISM NIMBYISM NIMBYISM

[@heli398]

It is a solution but people doesnt want to change their lifestyle

[@BG-ir1ii]

Really? Do you really want to live in a concrete jungle?

[@capitalismisdivisionofevil8322]

High rises = slavery

[@waitawhileexplorer3904]

Why does the media constantly address the wrong problem? The supply problem could be easily fixed if the demand is reduced. No brainer really. This up instead of out businesses might be the solution to placing Strata managers in a never ending source of income that can be increased at the drop of a hat. To the detriment of all tenants.

[@mr-iz8cx]

The established residents want to keep their current home "value". It's interesting that typically liberal minded citizens are the key factor holding back accessible housing. The capitalists want to make money, which will hopefully drive down prices in these suburbs due to higher density housing. Its actually a win for the underprivileged thanks to the rich. What a time hahaha. Its blatantly obvious that the current model is causing terrible unrest which will only get worse. Thus the current is government(what party is it?)is forced to mitigate it so we dont end up with streets full of homeless single parents and the working poor. The good old anglo dream, you have to be asleep to believe it

[@aginu]

We need Singapore model housing developments

[@infernalstan886]

So mostly rentals with even less chance of owning your own place? Not sure how well that'd go down with the Aussie public 😅

[@jeffstorer]

Unregulated tofu dregs Australia coming right up, lets face it Govt inspector just ticking boxes, to sign off housing,that will crumble before the loans are paid off

[@baits9301]

Not every one wants to live inner city , unless you work in an office . Most working class work in the suburbs and we want a garage ,swings for the kids and bbq . If i want to live in a shoe box i would go to china or india that have over a billion people . I'm not sure why they push for this style of living when it was based on housing commision flats . Slow down immigration and open more urban devolopments . USA has 260 million and decent size homes . Work all your life to live in a flat ( shoe box ) get real .

[@joebloggs6131]

USA has over 330 Million

[@ponzitizen]

Agree 100% but unfortunately the "experts" who live in the penthouse or have a big house seem to be interested in one thing and that is to get a Y/Y growth on their properties which is not a hard sell to the politicians who have multiple investment properties... What is being proposed does not make sense with the size of Australia...

[@joebloggs6131]

@@ponzitizen Exactly. That's why I'm waiting it out until it falls flat on it's face.

[@ponzitizen]

@@joebloggs6131 if you think that the "investors" who have over 5tn sitting in money markets accounts alone are going to fall flat on their face, unfortunately you will be waiting for nothing and in the meantime find that you have been promoted to the lower class...

[@tracyclark7560]

going to have to be. Every island nation, progressive island nation is doing so.

[@leonie563]

Arent they building these chickencoups next to freeways and trainstations for NDIS, Over55s/Seniors to save on ACAT and public housing tenants where there's CCT everywhere near trainstations, tafes, shopping centres and by freeways? Did we learn anything from the Covid lockdown issues in Victoria based unit towers? From WA it looked like a misery. I'd rather they don't purposely warehouse people in towers. It would be better to scatter people in small homes/duplexes around communities to give them opportunities to learn social skills rather than warehouse dysfunction in a complex where it feeds on itself. Anyway, looks like Thatcher era London is happening. Let's hope it doesn't end up in being the next Grenfell Tower London inferno with NDIS and ACAT clients. Why they go into unit complexes when they need no steps is chilling.

[@wato5073]

We are getting segregated into classes, the Chinese term is urban villages. The ultra rich tend to live close to the sea and harbor shore and CBD, the inner suburbs are the intelligentsia group highly educated people as a group, regarded as possessing culture and political influence more to the left side of politics most envy the ultra rich. Further out is the dying fast middle class Blue-collar workers that are considered the working class. They typically work in manual labor and are compensated by the hour or through piecework they can vote either way right or left depending on their personal money struggles. In pockets of the suburbs are the social housing class relying on rental housing that may be owned and managed by the state, by non-profit organizations, or by a combination of the two, usually with the aim of providing affordable housing they have accepted their fate virtually 100% left voters they can't bite the hand that feeds them.

[@bign1667]

At 2:10 listen to what she said: 80% sold already 90% local buyers 10% overseas buyers?? righto lady 😆 🤣

[@dickiesdocos]

What's wrong with that?

[@rosemaryng7994]

80% sold. Out of those 90% local or 90%x80% = 72% local. So 8% (10%*80%) overseas.

[@bign1667]

@dickiesdocos sounded scripted to not upset locals. It's easy to know how many you've sold but rounded up numbers on overseas and local buyers sounds like a lie.

[@user-vf6tr6yt2u]

Stop winging start building 🤓

[@infernalstan886]

Or lower immigration so we can actually catch up...

[@dalskiBo]

No, over-population is the problem. High-density housing = low quality miserable lives. Not addressing the over-population issues & a flawed economic principle of infinite growth with finite resources is just kicking the can down the road irresponsibly for future generations with whom will suffer from the inevitable cataclysmic consequence.

[@idk-4284]

Europeans and East Asians live very nice (and more affordable) lives with high density housing

[@baits9301]

live like sadines in a can , no thanks .housing commision now trendy until thieves move in .

[@dalskiBo]

@@idk-4284 I'm a european living in high-density housing; I would not wish it on my worse enemy!

[@ponzitizen]

​@@idk-4284that's why they are on the first plane to Australia...

[@Exli3r]

@@dalskiBoThat’s because their cheaply built if you lived in an penthouse apartment it would be a different story

[@DanielMasmanian]

Maybe. Or, it's that everyone and their dog want their own place from the moment they finish school and their boomer parents are too happy to help them turn homes from a necessity that others can't afford into a pointless profit. But better to listen to the developers. They're always honest.

[@user-fed-yum]

Demand net zero population growth now. The quality of our lives is being diluted each day. The wide scale greed is outrageous. We need to care for the people we already have, not the ones we don't.

[@waitawhileexplorer3904]

Exactly the politicians have the media programming us to believe it is a supply problem when in fact the demand problem could easliy be reduced within one day. We don't need more people in Australia. we have enough for now.

[@Steezypleasy]

Sure sounds like an anti-immigrant dog whistle you're blowing to me. Taking the failings of capitalism driven housing, and blaming it on foreigners. Well done for missing the point.

[@andrewmica1914]

Can someone please please explain why all previous labour government are perceived to do what is right in view of the ignorance of us the public yet labour destroyed our manufacturing base in the 80s90s 2000s and with no proper vision this country is now transformed into another over crowded crime riddled city with unaffordable housing homelessness...a broke health care system and an education system that is proved to benefit overseas students not local citizens as many of the jobs are for overseas migrants. Where is nation building. All I have seen in my life is lies from leaders stating that No Australian Child will be living in Poverty by 1990.. The low income threshold for tax has been taken away the cost of living with rent and mortgaged greed by these megalomania banks sucking all the money to buy submarines that are inferior by the time they are launched. Yet they want the voice ...what part of the constitution are they intending to change what part of certain legislation. I feel that Australia was never the lucky country because it was coined by the Hancock mining magnate in the 50s. We have had lazy stupid ignorance of leaders who have destroyed anything that resembles Australia... It's become a Dystopian society where overpopulation is creating the most unliveable cities due to congestion.... What happens when 40 million people consume electricity that the grid is unable to cope with renewable energies because it can't generate the electricity it demands. Or water what happens when we go back into the drought cycle...of 20 years like the 80*s and 2000s....where is the water supply coming from during the drought years. Shame on this fat pocket politicians that only worry about themselves. I feel we have and are continuously being lied to.

[@mordecai3366]

the solution to the housing crisis is not letting in hundreds of thousands of immigrants each year!

[@Paddy234]

Who will build the houses then?