Are near-death experiences real? Here’s what science has to say. | Dr. Bruce Greyson for Big Think

[@rockfishfishing]

I was looking for answers after the sudden death of my 5 years young son, I wanted to find reasons to continue living, I came across with so many beautiful NDE stories that just gave me a lot of hope. I know whenever I’m done at this physical world I will be reunited again with my son and this time will be FOREVER! Even though he has gone physically I can still feel his presence with me… Oliver, Daddy will honor you for the rest of my life by living fearlessly ❤️💪🏻. “Love never die”

[@Thedacelo]

So sorry for your lost.

[@ishikawa1338]

He’s just dead… nothing past that

[@Victoria007_Viper]

I Lost My Twin Sister Valerie last week and I know she is ok because she has kissed me a lot on my cheek right side of my cheek still trying to processing her Death and way before this my Twin sister lost her boy Kevin when he was 4 years old I am happy to know my twin is with her son after all these years

[@sarthakbhardwaj3333]

My mom died recently and I was going to commit suicide Then I read about the NDE Then I thought that if I go to my mom then she will fail Like she loved me and made so much effort to make my life good and if I would follow her than she will think that her life got wasted as I in whom she invested her life is gone just because she died

[@Jesussavedme]

Oh my goodness 🥺 I'm truly truly sorry for you losing your baby boy 😔 I can't even imagine how you must be feeling and I'm just so glad you know that one sweet day we will all be together again with Jesus 🕊️💜 fly high sweet Oliver🥰

[@avalaxton3696]

I lost my 37 year old son 2 weeks ago. I am searching for something to hold on to

[@grantsmythe8625]

We had 3 boys, born 6 years apart. The oldest died at 22 in 2000. It was heroine. The middle boy died last year, 2021, at 37: alcoholism. The youngest, now 31, has cirrhosis and hepatitis C. He's been sober now for about a week so his future is still very shaky, very uncertain. He's gotten sober before only to relapse and I live in fear. The death of a child is like being beaten up really bad: you hurt a lot all over but you're also numb and lifeless in a way, you can't move. I've found a lot of comfort and solace in these Near Death Experiences. There is mo magic, silver bullet, so to speak, that would take away your pain but these NDEs help. I deeply believe in God but this craziness that passes for Christianity these days, my goodness it is not for me and neither are the churches where it's pandered. Yuk! It's beyond ridiculous. We, my wife and I, had to go our own way and these NDEs are part of that. They help. There's another KZbin channel that we like, NDE Radio. I don't identify with every NDE experience i hear but I do identify with many and they help. Carl Jung, the Swiss psychologist, said that we seldom solve our problems. Instead we grow around them. It's sort of like a tree with a piece of wire fence nailed into it. The tree will eventually grow around the wire and it becomes part of the tree, embedded in it. I wish you comfort, grace and as much peace and purpose as you can find. There is so very much grief and pain nowadays with the drug epidemic. About 80 people per day die from drugs,, not to mention alcohol. Few families escape it completely. Again, best wishes to you. We will be thinking of you. We'll see you on the side just as you will see your son on the other side. Until then......

[@susanatkinson3978]

I'm so sorry for your loss. I believe love never dies. Have lost loved ones too. You are not alone

[@yeslek]

I turned 36 yesterday, been mourning my Mom since her death in March 2019 when she was 51. I'm so sorry for the huge hole in your life...I can only imagine from the other side of the equation based on my grief...but that's too soon, or young... I'm so sorry. Sending my heart to you.

[@shannonmohler6960]

I lost the love of my life in the same way I don’t think I can deal with this pain and the reality I can never feel his touch and hear his beautiful voice is to much and my heart can’t handle it

[@montrishabethea331]

It's heartbreaking Hun lost my son on 10/23/21 and now my fiance 7/8/22💔💔😢so sorry for your loss

[@ElixeoFlores]

My sister was in an auto accident when she was 18. She was non responsive when she was brought into the hospital. When she was revived and a few days after she stabilized, she asked if she could talk to the doctor who treated her in the emergency room. The nurse said, oh that's doctor Thomas. He's the one who sees you every day on morning rounds. My sister said, no, the doctor who treated me was bald. Dr. Thomas has hair. The nurse explained that doctor Thomas is bald on top but has hair in front that he combs back so it looks like a full head of hair if you are looking up at him from the angle of laying in bed. When doctor Thomas came in for his morning rounds, my sister asked him to bend down so she could see his head and was delighted when she recognized him as the doctor who basically saved her life. She thanked him for everything he did for her. Perplexed, he pointed out that she was unconscious when she came in. She explained that she was watching the entire event unfold from the vantage point of the ceiling and proceeded to describe exactly what happened, right up to the point when they inserted a metal tube into her side and she returned to her body. The metal tube is a device that is inserted into the side in an emergency to treat a collapsed lung. Pretty amazing.

[@rishi-coc]

LOOK UNTO JESUS AND KEEP FAITH

[@timothytannerandtheamazing5054]

Dr Bruce Greyson is an inspirational medical doctor, scientist and intellectual. Unlike many of his colleagues, he is not afraid to move beyond reductive materialism - an outdated paradigm. Thank you Bruce! 🙏

[@greyswandir2807]

Sending love to you and all the other commenters experiencing grief. I wish you all the strength and support you need.

[@natashalovett7134]

I was diagnosed with a fibroid tumor and started bleeding out on the end of September this year. By November I had lost that much blood I could hear my heart struggling to pump blood it made a whistling sound if I got up to quickly or walked to fast. The doctors managed to find the right medication for the bleeding to slow down and was able to have an iron infusion so I was well enough to have an operation to take it out. Start of December I had surgery and the surgeon accidentally sliced my bladder and a day later I had to be airlifted to another town for emergency surgery. It was then where my experience began. While flying I was in and out of consciousness. While out, I saw a friend whom had passed away a year before. When I first saw her I was a bit confused I looked around and there was nothing but a dark grayness around then, I looked at my friend again and said hello. All she said was, she knows she f'd up but as soon as she saw her diceased father she ran to him and by then it was to late. I woke up in the ambulance in the other town the pain was unbearable I immediately blacked out again. Then I saw my fur baby 'Sir Bundlelotts' whom also passed away last year I was so happy to see him as I picked him up I noticed his old cat smell had disappeared and I gave him a big kiss then he squirmed his way out of cuddles like he always use to. I'd wake up again I had finally arrived at the hospital for emergency surgery I told the surgeon to let me die, I couldn't handle the pain anymore, a nurse came over and calmed me down. They both reassured me that everything will be ok. I was do exhausted by then I just wanted it all to go away for good. Then while I was just about to go under I saw my diceased parents at the end of the operating table holding hands smiling at me. I noticed how young they looked, they looked younger than me and before I could even understand what was going on I woke up and the second surgery was over with success. I was taught a lot of things in those few days and I believe there is a better place to go when we leave this earth, Im one who was blessed to witnessed it. This whole experience has changed my life, my hatred and toxicity of others has completely gone I even forgave the surgeon whom sliced my bladder. I now believe everything in life whether its good or bad happens for a reason and there's always something to be learned in life to become a better person. My lesson was this and I feel blessed on a daily to be alive. I want to share my experience with people whom are lost and angry like I was, so they can understand that life ain't that bad after all.

[@seancrapola]

Thank you for sharing your story. Glad you're still with us!

[@Jake.tm_politics]

Made me cry, I'm sorry you had to go through that.

[@t-r-ex2087]

You make me hope that is see my cat again.

[@natashalovett7134]

@@t-r-ex2087 I've learned that, finding our true journey from our hearts will always lead us back to our happiness. My happiness was always my fur babies.

[@krissy1]

@@t-r-ex2087 I can assure you you WILL see your car again, all animals are waiting for their humans when they too get to the other side I have proof of this

[@jennifermorris2715]

In two more days my NDE will be the first year anniversary. I spent half of last year with horrific nightmares and not wanting to sleep slipping into several months of severe depression I've recently started talking about my near-death experience and it is starting to help me grow and understand

[@Shodyalghamdy]

Can you please share your experience

[@coolbluelights]

I've never had an NDE, but I had an out of body experience in kindergarten. I got sent out in the hall for being disruptive. it was humiliating and terrifying for me. I remember looking in the window. I was barely tall enough to see through it. Next thing I know i'm in the corner of the classroom with the group of kids I wanted to be with. I heard someone say "he wants to come in" and I look over to the door and see my own little face in the window. I thought "oh, they sent another kid out so i'm not alone" The teacher sent one of the kids to open the door for me and next thing I know i'm back in the hall looking in watching that kid come to let me in. I was completely baffled as to what just happened.

[@Ayesha_11122]

Ah man! Thanks for sharing this. Does this mean you saw yourself?!

[@positiveair1891]

This is a type of mental illness where you get out of yourself and your emotions and sees everything in a third person perspective but u forgot what its called, everyone pretty much will experience this once their life but some people experience it everyday

[@JusNoBS420]

Thanks for sharing

[@wagwag630]

I believe you, I had a similar thing happen, I was a teenager dancing in the living room with my friend and acting silly and out of breath, I looked into the mirror on the wall and I saw myself as an old lady with gray hair up in a bun. It was an eerie feeling and I KNEW it was me in the future! Now almost 69, my hair is pure silver and although it's not long I usually tie part of it back in a semi bun. I am still quiet a bit younger than that picture memory, so I think I have another 20 years left. HAHA, maybe... my mom lived to be almost 99. LIFE IS STRANGE, MY FRIENDS!

[@UHFStation1]

Weird that your body could be consciously moving without you in it.

[@guillermodelnoche]

I remember vividly many strange images, sounds, locations including floating bodiless in space during my eight day coma. I was never aware of my body, had zero thoughts but had an overwhelming sense of love and wellbeing.

[@bigthink]

Fascinating, thanks for sharing!

[@blaaazej7621]

have you shifted to more religous side after this ?

[@guillermodelnoche]

@@blaaazej7621 I have not. I feel very much at peace. I can remember the entire experience vividly still and find it calming when I think about it.

[@shanecanavan1876]

@@guillermodelnoche Would you say you believe in an afterlife or god?

[@guillermodelnoche]

@@shanecanavan1876 my experience confirmed (for me) that our energy does go on into the universe and that love is the currency of the universe. The absolute contentment and feeling of love was the only thing that I felt. I didn’t see a white light, family members or some form of Deity. I did hear voices, my wife talking to me, Seal being played on CD, some women butchering a goat in a kitchen with smells of curry and I visited many nebulas.

[@georgiahughes9678]

After my near death experience, it was like I was awoken to what life is really meant to be. It's quite lonely because being at deaths door Changes your soul and you realise that everything you think is what life is actually isn't.. I've never been the same since,

[@boredscientist5756]

Just a DMT trip, no worry....

[@joegeagea8097]

@@boredscientist5756 you need around 25mg of dmt to hallucinate the brain releases less than 1mg when dead so you can remember your life

[@mattwoods8590]

​@@boredscientist5756 There is no evidence or data to suggest a DMT trip. In fact it suggest the opposite. Studies showed DMT can be found in trace amounts within the brain and DMT levels can spike as much as 10x when near death. However the amount needed to induce a trip would be an amount of 600x what they found. The DMT theory doesn't hold up with actual evidence.

[@Vidyasagarbb]

Wow. Can you talk more about it on what changed and what NDE you have had ?

[@grawakendream8980]

how have you changed

[@aster_limni]

I've lost my 30yr old best friend and I'm in shambles. I still can't accept it fully, she was gone so quickly.... life is so unfair. Please, Serena, be still alive somewhere else...seeing your corpse in the coffin was devastating. Please be well... I can't go on without you

[@Pj-fm7oe]

I'm sorry about your friend. Please be assured that Jehovah God misses her too. He promises to bring back our loved ones in the resurrection, a special act of God to restore a person to life. A promise that brings many who have lost loved ones comfort, knowing that they can see them again. Have you heard this verse before? "And I have hope toward God, which hope these men also look forward to, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous." Acts 24:15 A promise from God is as sure as it gets, we can count on it. I hope this helps, take care.

[@angiec6011]

I’m sorry for your loss 💔😔

[@popeck27]

I have studied these topics since few years now. I have a scientific background and no religion. But I am now convinced we are non material beings in a body that we leave one day to continue our experience and returning where we come from. When you add NDEs, OBEs, mediumship, pshychics experiences, trance (DMT, psychedelics, ayahuasca…), previous lives memory, death bed visions and many others, you have a really strong database to conclude. We are not in our brain. Death does not exist. I am 99% sure. When I read all comments saying it’s bullshit, I want to say: study the topic and then give your opinion.

[@benwhyte1605]

Quantum theory basically supports that any information existing here exists somewhere else in the universe...so what's to stop a consciousness from continuing in some form elsewhere in the cosmos after physical death?

[@rodriguezelfeliz4623]

"We are non material beings in a body that we leave one day to continue our experience and returning where we come from" - (person with a scientific background and no religion, lol). I'm sorry but what scientific background do you have? Spiritual science or what? That's the single most unscientific statement I have ever heard. You might not belong to an organized religion, but you clearly believe in the supernatural and souls (both not supported by science and by definition impossible to meassure or prove). You say you have studied it, but what on earth do you mean by studying it? Searching for testimonies? If you have a scientific background you should know that testimonies are the single worst type of evidence... you can find a testimony for basically anything you want. Actually studying it would mean meassuring it, controling variables, using controls, creating a predictive model and testing it... did you do all that? Where is that data? Because I assure you, if you have it you deserve a Nobel prize. Actually, if you look at studies of some of the processes you describe as evidence (like psychodelic experiences) you can see that there are physical processes that are observed and there are already some theories behind the related subjective experiences, no need for an afterlife or a soul. Look I'm not saying that near death experiences are BS, I actually think they are a very interesting psychological phenomena to study and it could tell us a lot about our brain. But when I say study I mean actually study using the scientific method). I don't even care if you want to believe what you say... that's ok, there is a lot we don't know, and we all hold beliefs that are not scientific (that's part of being a human). But please don't use "I have a scientific background and have no religion" as an argument for the validity of a spiritual belief that is not scientific. And come on, 99% sure? Really? That's a BIG statement. An actual scientist would be quite worried of having that level of confidence in anything, much more in such an extraordinary claim. Just out of curiosity, what statistical analysis did you apply in order to arrive at that level of confidence?

[@Da_Truth]

NDE happens when our Soul separates from our Physical body.. so we enter from 3rd dimension limit to 4th dimensional Energy where Time doesn’t exist. That’s why we experience things differently something that 3rd dimensional beings in this world cannot comprehend! It is outside of their Reality.

[@YahwehJesus777]

I'm 100% certain we aren't physical beings, I can't prove it but I have certainty because of the experiences I have had with death, it's just that it's a very hard thing to grasp, it was tormenting me for a long time the fact I experienced these absolutely 100% verifiable (to me) things that can't be explained using my materialistic worldview and still to this day I cannot be a materialist no matter how much I twist my worldview, I kind of miss being a materialist because that was a pretty easy way of living up until death.

[@YahwehJesus777]

@@rodriguezelfeliz4623 It's not about the broken model of science we have which only favors materialism, it's about using your critical mind and being an emperical thinker.

[@robsmith1a]

I died for 20 seconds in 2014. Felt myself flying off into the sky before a sensation of being sucked into my body and being surrounded by the crash team I am still not totally sure what to make of it.

[@satyadasgumbyji8956]

see joseph selbie the physics of god: consciousness, heaven, neuroscience, and transcendence audio bk here on yt. scientific proof thru quantum physics for laymen...may help u understand, friend?! ✌😇❤

[@ChorusArtists]

The first thing to make of it is that we are immortal, and our souls cannot be injured in any way. Just sayin'...

[@letsgowinnietheflu5439]

@@ChorusArtists Sin

[@sonkeschmidt2027]

Give it time. Gentleness and patience will give life a chance to show you everything you need to integrate this experience into your ordinary life. =)

[@ChorusArtists]

@@letsgowinnietheflu5439 Nope. Read some cases of aetheists and criminals.

[@AGDinCA]

Hmm... the language was s bit flowery for me, but I appreciate his main takeaway: make THIS life, THIS time, THIS experience, make it worthwhile. Focus on being the best person you can be right now.

[@loosingsleep4071]

You gotta respect a man when he says “as a scientist you don’t run from what you don’t understand you run towards it” & “seems to defy a simple materialist explanation” because there’s so many scientist who won’t look into this because it makes them seem insane to their science community and or they have preconceive notions regarding their materialist viewpoint so they never look into and or deny the possibilities connected to something to non material explanations but as a scientist or even a thinker you must question what you think you know. P.S. this guy reminds me of Jung in that sense.

[@ashesashesweallfalldown7171]

He's not a scientist, his field of study is psychology which is the least scientific medical field there is. Also non of his so called research includes anything that could be considered scientific, he just collects ppls stories and makes unproven assumptions.

[@loosingsleep4071]

@@ashesashesweallfalldown7171 Yet, he never seemed to claim any of his findings as “fact” did he ?? He was pretty clear that it was all speculation & him simply connecting a bunch of peoples stories together to find common patterns. Also how is psychology not scientific ?? Have you ever read any Freud or Jung ?? Some of the most brilliant minds of their eras & how can a field of study be less scientific then another one ?? So you could claim that biology is less scientific than say physics or the other way around ?? If something is the least scientific doesn’t that make it a bit scientific ?? So your disapproving your entire point within your own statement. There’s a reason you can study pych in college, why you get paid well to be a psychiatrist, & why there’s been multiple studies n books written on the human mind because it’s a legitimate science. Sounds more like your making more personal than a factual or logical statements.

[@joecallender1706]

I had a spontaneous OBE when I was 10. I was relaxing in a comfortable chair when I simply floated out of my body. I felt that I could go as deeply into the experience as I wanted but I was afraid I might not be able to find my way back. Soon I started to hear a hum/vibration that I sensed was coming from an intelligent source not of this world. I couldn't make it stop! It gradually faded away. Many years later I read "Autobiography of a Yogi" and realized I had somehow tuned in to "Om," the sound of the creative manifestation of God's power, called che, prana, the "Light of Christ," and various other terms, depending on the religion or whatever. It scared me when I was 10, but now after many years of meditation I can hear it almost constantly. It is not unpleasant at all.

[@iiiiisse]

Om is a mantra, of hindu lord shiva 🙏

[@marcomarko1759]

GO EASY ON THE MUSHROOMS BRO

[@amvines3718]

@@marcomarko1759 this ain't fun broo,if u wanna have fun go scroll your reels

[@H0neybee_]

My grandmother use to talk about how she vould astral project(mightve spelled that wrong)

[@nelsongonzales1263]

my dad had a nde and this always fascinated me. He seen a old family friend who passed away. She guided him through the city to a staircase that had a line of thousands of other people all getting ready to go into the light. He said he felt so okay, but something told him it wasn’t his time yet and he woke up to my grandma giving him cpr.

[@evawagner3353]

I had NDE as 18 years old hit my head in car when driving through the forest . Cellphones non exist that time .we were in the cabin in middle of nowhere..I left my body..I fly above Earth to universe, then in dark tunnel .End of tunnel was absolutely amazing very bright light ,beautiful very calm like music ,extremely peaceful place . I was young and no family members died in my life . I felt someone turned me back to the tunnel and fly back through universe dark ,gray ,through our atmosphere ,I saw ocean etc like from space ship . Then I hear and smell the forest ,wind ,leafs movement and I saw ambulance in the middle of meadow . My body was sitting there and doctors worked on me . I remember I screamed I dont want to come back because that other place was soooo beautiful . I was given injection in arm and come back .since that experience I totally changed my life . I know I was given second chance and purpose . Nature and animal rescue become my life ..previously I was bit partying teenager. As an atheist ,I m bit confused ,but I always trust my experience .I'm very sensitive to telephathy etc I can sense lots .. I believe we dont die but continue in other form living . I recently lost my beloved saint bernard Richie and 5 months latter I hear his fur and collar shaking mornings time we went for walks. . Definitely our energy continues after we die.

[@happybergner9832]

I am currently reading Dr Greyson's book, "After." EXCELLENT. He has explored every other possibility for NDEs. His dad worked with the scientific method all during Dr. Greyson's childhood. Besides being a psychiatrist himself, Dr. Greyson applies all of his life long knowledge (when yr dad does a certain job, the kids always learn it too,) of his dad's experience and knowledge of scientific method to his research in NDEs. His childhood created in him the perfect background for his research. His background as a psychiatrist added to his knowledge base, and his unshakable interest in the topic of NDEs all created the perfect person to guide and establish the study of NDEs. (Btw, his intelligence also adds to the mix of qualifications!) It's very nice to see him 'in person.'

[@kenkaplan3654]

Occam's razor says most often the most simple and direct explanation is the correct one. Life beyond the bodily incarnation is real. Period. End of story.

[@itsROMPERS...]

Knowledge like, "when yr dad does a certain job, the kids always learn it too" is obviously, demonstrably wrong. You could find a hundred exceptions to this in one day. If your belief is based on this guy, you are believing things because you want them to be true, not because they are.

[@itsROMPERS...]

@@kenkaplan3654 William of Occam would have a heart attack if he ever heard something as ridiculous as this. Occam's razor says of all credible possibilities the simplest one is most likely to be true. Here's a possibility that's simpler than yours: there's NO electric life energy. Mine is simpler, so its true. Your knowledge is called the Dunning-Kruger effect. You know enough to create a theory, but you don't know enough to see why it's wrong.

[@kenkaplan3654]

@@itsROMPERS... Greyson did not make the claim, the commenter did. You then switched to discredit Greyson based on her false assumption? I have not had an NDE but I have had hundreds of powerful mystical experiences that confirm the reality of higher dimensions beyond the physical. If it can't be put in a test tube does not mean it does not exist..

[@kenkaplan3654]

@@itsROMPERS... You know nothing of me or my life. One thing that irks me about material rationalists including many atheist positions is the monumental arrogance to presume the experience of others, a startling close mindedness, and the incredible hubris in thinking they have the last word on the nature of reality and the phenomenon of consciousness.

[@bellsina7150]

My grandma didn't have a near-death experience but she had the same experience that you would have during an nde. it was shortly after her own mother died in the 1940s, she was laying in bed with her niece that was about two at the time, and her niece kicked her pretty hard in the middle of the night and she awoke and was laying there staring at the ceiling. Her sister was living in Rice lake at the time in my grandma was living in Eau Claire. She said it was if someone held a phone to her ear, and she could hear her sister say Mama are you happy mama? My Grandma thought, poor thing she expects to get an answer. Then, she felt herself crash through the ceiling. She said it sounded like thunder and she could hear herself go through the ceiling. When she opened her eyes again, she said there was color she never saw in this world, and a chassis, knowing she couldn't get to the other side. She heard her mother, and her sister was next to her, although she did not see her mother, she could hear her clearly. There was a conversation I will not go into, but then she felt herself crash back down through the ceiling and into the bed, and into her body again. A couple days later she was talking to her sister in Rice lake, and her sister said you know I talked to mama? My Grandma replied, yes I know I was there. I had her tell me that story many times while she was alive she never could explain it, but she knew something had happened that was not of this world.

[@229babyatlas]

Thats incredible

[@buddhalovechild]

I love the inside joke. His colleague who studies reincarnation wrote a wonderful book "Before". We all benefit from the work of this man and his team at UVA.

[@tuemiranda]

ohh who are the authors? i would love to read it!

[@buddhalovechild]

@@tuemiranda Before by Jim B Tucker, MD After by Bruce Greyson, MD Enjoy. Amazing research.

[@peterprentice9179]

I love how scientists approach the unknown . . . they are open to possibilities and don't feel the need for quick and simple explanations . . . really enjoyed this video

[@johnnymentero6313]

He's not a scientist.

[@peterprentice9179]

@@johnnymentero6313 and your qualifications are what?

[@peterprentice9179]

@@johnnymentero6313 come on johnny . . . it was a simple question!

[@johnnymentero6313]

@@peterprentice9179 What is it that you don't understand?

[@powerofgod2232]

@@johnnymentero6313 anybody can be a scientist get real.

[@canwelook]

1. People report experiences 2. Cause(s) unknown The logical, scientific, response is NOT to jump to any conclusion.

[@sigmachadtrillioniare6372]

I think we should more effort to study the non physical, and stuff we haven't done any research on first. Than we might start solving the nde puzzle and know more about this reality

[@sravasaksitam]

@@sigmachadtrillioniare6372 "study the non physical" is an oxymoron

[@thewibblylever1647]

@@sigmachadtrillioniare6372 What is non-physical? What's an example of something that's non-physical that we can indeed put an effort studying? Everything keeps turning out to be physical.

[@shikasta]

9999

[@Aureelian]

People report experiences which, in an anecdote way, are falsifying the currently dominant materialistic worldview. A smart scientist takes this as an invitation to dig deeper and challenge, hopefully proof or disproof his current hypothesis.

[@sierravista9013]

I had an NDE last December. We are fine when we go, I was so happy talking with everyone on the other side. I was not very happy being back. Mindfulness meditation has helped me reconnect to life

[@matthewparker-t2q]

There is NO life after death: Scientist insists afterlife is IMPOSSIBLE THERE is NO life after death, according to one well respected physicist who claims humanity has to abandon all fanciful beliefs and focus on what the laws of the universe dictate. Sean Carroll, a cosmologist and physics professor at the California Institute of Technology, believes he has put the debate surrounding the afterlife to bed after extensively studying the laws of physics. Dr Carroll states “the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood” and everything happens within the realms of possibility. He says for there to be an afterlife, consciousness would need to be something that is entirely separated from our physical body - which it is not. Rather, consciousness at the very basic level is a series of atoms and electrons which essentially give us our mind. The laws of the universe do not allow these particles to operate after our physical demise, according to Dr Carroll He said: “Claims that some form of consciousness persists after our bodies die and decay into their constituent atoms face one huge, insuperable obstacle: the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood, and there's no way within those laws to allow for the information stored in our brains to persist after we die.” For his evidence, Dr Carroll points to the Quantum Field Theory (QFT). In simple terms, the QFT is the belief there is one field for each type of particle. For example, all the photons in the universe are on one level, and all the electrons too have their own field, and for every other type of particle too. Dr Carroll explains if life continued in some capacity after death, tests on the quantum field would have revealed "spirit particles" and "spirit forces”. Dr Carroll writes in the Scientific American: “If it's really nothing but atoms and the known forces, there is clearly no way for the soul to survive death. “Believing in life after death, to put it mildly, requires physics beyond the Standard Model. “Most importantly, we need some way for that ‘new physics’ to interact with the atoms that we do have. “Within QFT, there can't be a new collection of ‘spirit particles’ and ‘spirit forces’ that interact with our regular atoms, because we would have detected them in existing experiments.” Once this is accepted by all scientists, Dr Carroll says, then they can truly begin to understand how the human mind operated. He said: “There's no reason to be agnostic about ideas that are dramatically incompatible with everything we know about modern science. “Once we get over any reluctance to face reality on this issue, we can get down to the much more interesting questions of how human beings and consciousness really work.”

[@desertshadow6098]

I believe we are energy tied to a physical body in this existence. A symbiotic relationship of a higher power and matter being experiencing and learning for our ascension to a higher plane. NDE seems to pull back the curtain of illusion and show the beauty beyond.

[@saral9817]

So the soul

[@ak8140]

How many people here have lost their loved one. And feel some good by listening the NDE. I am one of them.

[@matthewparker-t2q]

There is NO life after death: Scientist insists afterlife is IMPOSSIBLE THERE is NO life after death, according to one well respected physicist who claims humanity has to abandon all fanciful beliefs and focus on what the laws of the universe dictate. Sean Carroll, a cosmologist and physics professor at the California Institute of Technology, believes he has put the debate surrounding the afterlife to bed after extensively studying the laws of physics. Dr Carroll states “the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood” and everything happens within the realms of possibility. He says for there to be an afterlife, consciousness would need to be something that is entirely separated from our physical body - which it is not. Rather, consciousness at the very basic level is a series of atoms and electrons which essentially give us our mind. The laws of the universe do not allow these particles to operate after our physical demise, according to Dr Carroll He said: “Claims that some form of consciousness persists after our bodies die and decay into their constituent atoms face one huge, insuperable obstacle: the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood, and there's no way within those laws to allow for the information stored in our brains to persist after we die.” For his evidence, Dr Carroll points to the Quantum Field Theory (QFT). In simple terms, the QFT is the belief there is one field for each type of particle. For example, all the photons in the universe are on one level, and all the electrons too have their own field, and for every other type of particle too. Dr Carroll explains if life continued in some capacity after death, tests on the quantum field would have revealed "spirit particles" and "spirit forces”. Dr Carroll writes in the Scientific American: “If it's really nothing but atoms and the known forces, there is clearly no way for the soul to survive death. “Believing in life after death, to put it mildly, requires physics beyond the Standard Model. “Most importantly, we need some way for that ‘new physics’ to interact with the atoms that we do have. “Within QFT, there can't be a new collection of ‘spirit particles’ and ‘spirit forces’ that interact with our regular atoms, because we would have detected them in existing experiments.” Once this is accepted by all scientists, Dr Carroll says, then they can truly begin to understand how the human mind operated. He said: “There's no reason to be agnostic about ideas that are dramatically incompatible with everything we know about modern science. “Once we get over any reluctance to face reality on this issue, we can get down to the much more interesting questions of how human beings and consciousness really work.”

[@staggerlee9362]

I learned, just earlier today, how much our senses modify reality to help us make sense of things and keep us aware. For instance, how our ears can still differentiate between individual notes when played simultaneously on a piano rather than just hearing the middle/blended note and inversly how our eyes blend colors for us so we see yellow rather than a redish green or blurred colors for instance. This made me wonder if thats why the world looks so unique and vibrant to those to leave their bodies. We slip out of the toolkit and just exist as pure energy.

[@starcityrc3298]

We also have a sense of time. Not to get all Church on your. However Jesus talks about this. He was asked who a widow of multiple husbands would be married to. He reacted to it as it being a silly question. What our Bodies in this world need is not what our Spirit needs. No Hunger, No Thirst, No Sexual Desire, these things don't matter in the afterlife. We can't comprehend the afterlife because we are chained to our physical Bodies.

[@ericajones9004]

After watching so many interviews with Near Death Experiencers, I have come away with the same information that Dr. Greyson is saying here... It's not necessarily understanding about whether or not the self or soul survives the physical body, but the meaning and understanding we can take and implement for this life.

[@JusNoBS420]

Pretty sure now that the Heaven and Hell model of the afterlife has been installed as a form of control going back to ancient times. But I do honestly believe that our spirit or essence continues on after our physical body dies. I have twice now had short conversations in a twilight/almost dream like state of sleep. once with my brother who died suddenly after high school who appeared at the foot of my bed and informed me that “IT WAS REAL” because growing up in the church I wasn’t baptized until 17 and he never actually was baptized before he passed. We had the usual doubts as any young open minded person would have. The second time was a couple years ago when my mother passed away after a long life struggle with MS. She died in summer of 2019 before Covid-19 entered our world. And I remember asking her to answer a question I had before I fell asleep. It was a personal question so I won’t share details but that night possibly in my dreams she without a doubt came to my mind with her love and answered it.

[@Aldarinn]

If there is nothing before or after this life, then this life contains too many possibilities of suffering to be of any importance, to the extent that it is actually safer to dispense with it altogether than to wait around and allow it to cause more suffering.

[@neutrino78x]

@@Aldarinn what? that's not a logical conclusion at all. If there's nothing after, then you would want to live as long as possible with as little suffering as possible.

[@Aldarinn]

@@neutrino78x Refer to the work of David Benatar or Arthur Schopenhauer for a systematic understanding of why that applies in case of eternal oblivion from physicalism. Please note that though I think there is an afterlife, I would personally prefer eternal oblivion.

[@neutrino78x]

@@Aldarinn "Please note that though I think there is an afterlife, I would personally prefer eternal oblivion." Why would you say that? Presumably you would be in the loving arms of God forever. Loved forever.

[@feelone1094]

The last 8 days of my dying Father’s life (from pancreatic cancer) has become the 8 days in my life, that not only did I lose my Dad, but Because of what was happening in the home, and also what my dad himself came out of a coma and said with absolute awe. I now KNOW , for certain, there is something after our physical death. Sincerely, The skeptic turned convinced with all I am.

[@grantsmythe8625]

The day is coming when Science will be forced to acknowledge the existence of consciousness apart from its assumed confinement in the body. At present, Science associates this idea with Religion but that is just a prejudice on the part of Science.

[@susanatkinson3978]

Please explain more of what happened

[@misho129]

What did your father tell you?

[@badatheist9948]

you were never a skeptic, how did you determine this?

[@Maicon-b1b]

Jesus Christ died for your sins

[@tiino_6725]

I had a 10 grams of magic mushrooms and that experience is the SAME experience as a near death. I felt like we are all one and felt so connected and full of love. I’ll never forget this experience and that made me feel there is more after death.

[@rih2370]

Mushrooms sure are something fascinating. I take them on a regular basis, they keep me sane and take away my terrible fear of death and illness. I love them deeply.

[@rih2370]

@@heinmolenaar6750 A mushroom is a plant, not a drug. You seem to not understand the difference between something that grows in the forrest and something that is made by humans in a laboratory. Other than that, you have no idea what you're talking about. You sound very ignorant. I do agree that dumb people should not take mushrooms, they always end up having bad experiences. Did you have a bad experience or have you not even tried mushrooms? If you haven't even tried them then you should not even be talking about them. Mushrooms made me a better person and it helped millions of others.

[@Kaia6485]

I was thinking the same thing. I’ve watched several of these nde videos here on KZbin and when they explain the total sense of being pain free and feeling nothing but pure love and connection to people and the universe, I was like that’s exactly how I felt when I did the drug ecstasy. I just remember thinking, this is what heaven must feel like. I was so depressed for days after the drug wore off knowing how much better I felt on the drug and wishing that’s the way all of us could feel permanently.

[@shannonmohler6960]

So 10 grams of shrooms huh, It’s just to easy for me to get those and now I’m super curious about the experience you had and if I might get something similar to an experience like yours? It looks like we’re going to have to see imma let you know tho

[@grant1739]

I had a 6 Gram mushroom bar and it just felt like time had slowed down but nothing otherworldly but still nice

[@marinawong9662]

We really need more scientists, doctors to come out and talk about these things.

[@nelsongonzales1263]

seriously I believe in what science says, and if this is truly an unexplainable event I just might question my views of this reality.

[@grawakendream8980]

i think they could have been more frank here

[@apollo9844]

@@grawakendream8980What does Frank have to do with this?

[@grawakendream8980]

just a more scientific assessment, without feeling the social obligation to lapse into religio-spiritual narrative@@apollo9844

[@IanKerry-ip6fx]

If something is consistently observed it's real

[@HappinessinYourLife]

I had one in 1998. I had no knowledge that it was something that happened to anyone but me. I'd never heard of it before and didn't yet even own a computer. It did not coincide with my religious beliefs that I had prior to it. I don't think I would have believed or understood it at all if I hadn't experienced it. I wish everyone could experience it and still have a lot of life left. It does change everything.

[@Fatman305]

No thanks. I'd rather grow emotionally and spiritually the natural way: by simply aging/becoming wiser...

[@HappinessinYourLife]

@@Fatman305 natural? We are taught what our parents were taught about life. They were taught by their parents who lived through world wars. Most of the world has totally forgotten the point of life and exists out of survival and competing against others. That is common but not natural at all.

[@Fatman305]

@@HappinessinYourLife I don't believe 90% of what my parents believe and I teach my kids to believe 0% of what I say, unless they independently verified it to be true. I actually often tell them "I have no idea" even when I know the answer, just so they learn how to google properly. When they come up with some bogus answer based on low quality sources, I explain to them how to distinguish crap from gold.

[@HappinessinYourLife]

@@Fatman305 not to be smart, but why would they believe what you explain to them if you told them to believe 0% of what you say? The NDE doesn't come without problems. But every coin has two sides.

[@Fatman305]

@@HappinessinYourLife When they're older, I'll have them find me better sources of information that passes very strict anti-BS criteria (which we could come up with together). They already know to trust me whenever it's a coin toss and they're not sure if I'm right or wrong. They learned that by witnessing me correct their teachers and then the teacher correcting themselves in front of the whole class the next day... Or the teacher talking for months (years now) about how I fixed some mysterious issue in a few seconds, that their IT dept couldn't resolve in a prolonged email exchange...

[@keeleyorange1709]

I had a bad car accident in 2012 I was lucky to survive it. I was in a induced coma for a week. It’s strange what I remember from it. I don’t remember my accident, but I did have some awareness during being in a coma. No fear or frustration at not being able to do anything in fact I just accepted things and didn’t try to do anything. It was sort of like a dream were you just go along with things. I heard nurses saying I was lucky to be alive cos I’d been in a car accident. I thought no I haven’t or I’d remember, I then thought back to last time I remembered driving and released I didn’t remember coming off the motorway or getting home so I thought maybe I could have been in an accident. I also heard people saying I was in intensive care and that I was being moved to my local hospital which I knew my mum would hate. I also saw my Nan visiting me tho I don’t remember seeing myself like is reported in OBE. I also remember struggling to breathe once but not feeling any panic or fear. I was also aware that this was closest to death I’d ever been and wondered if I’d have any visions or meetings with my grandad who had died 10 years earlier in the hospital I was moved to. Unfortunately I didn’t and I later found out I was moved to the hospital he’d died at on the day he’d died 10 year earlier. I think this experience has stopped me being scared of dying. As a kid the thought of one day dying terrified me. Now it’s something I accept will happen I think this accident has made me realise it’s nothing to be scared of as at no point did I feel any fear. I don’t remember much of the experience but there is some memories of it and some I’m not sure are even real, think they probably are but could be me trying to remember more than I can but there was no fear in any of it even the few second memory of me in the crash. I just remember confusion wondering what had happened and wondering if I’d ever find out which was another sign I knew I could die yet no fear at all.

[@Kelzmarie3]

I don't know whether my cases are NDE but my first scary encounter was in 2010 when I woke up one morning, went to church, went back to my dorm and took another round of sleep. In my dream I saw myself drifting towards a beach which in reality wasn't anywhere close to my school. I drifted towards a portable exit towards the beach was so peaceful beyond my comprehension and when I suspected that this could translate into my death in reality, I pleaded to go back and not to venture forward and upon making this request, the gentle but DEFINITE force stopped my drift and allowed me wake up. It was soooo scary. So since then till today I usually have out of body experiences almost every night where I can literally feel my soul trying to pull off from my body and of course I get scared and try to use words of prayers to 'tether' my soul back in. I really don't know what these are but these are my experiences currently and frequently.

[@bw6138]

Dr. Bruce, my dad drowned when he was 6. He had an out of body experience. He floated up into the sky. He can look down and see the lake where he drowned. He felt a voice asking him if he wanted to stay or go. My dad chose to stay. He started floating back down to his body. Someone pulled him out of the water and saved him. My dad floated back into his body. I almost died when I was born. I was born at 26 weeks: Fast Forward 36 years later. I still don't know why I am here.

[@peterpaul231]

To be a good person, I think.

[@sandytraveller85]

​@user-tz4pb6qz7k why copy paste this all over the comment section. I'm honestly curious. It's like your trying really hard to convince yourself as well as others

[@matthewparker-t2q]

There is NO life after death: Scientist insists afterlife is IMPOSSIBLE THERE is NO life after death, according to one well respected physicist who claims humanity has to abandon all fanciful beliefs and focus on what the laws of the universe dictate. Sean Carroll, a cosmologist and physics professor at the California Institute of Technology, believes he has put the debate surrounding the afterlife to bed after extensively studying the laws of physics. Dr Carroll states “the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood” and everything happens within the realms of possibility. He says for there to be an afterlife, consciousness would need to be something that is entirely separated from our physical body - which it is not. Rather, consciousness at the very basic level is a series of atoms and electrons which essentially give us our mind. The laws of the universe do not allow these particles to operate after our physical demise, according to Dr Carroll He said: “Claims that some form of consciousness persists after our bodies die and decay into their constituent atoms face one huge, insuperable obstacle: the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood, and there's no way within those laws to allow for the information stored in our brains to persist after we die.” For his evidence, Dr Carroll points to the Quantum Field Theory (QFT). In simple terms, the QFT is the belief there is one field for each type of particle. For example, all the photons in the universe are on one level, and all the electrons too have their own field, and for every other type of particle too. Dr Carroll explains if life continued in some capacity after death, tests on the quantum field would have revealed "spirit particles" and "spirit forces”. Dr Carroll writes in the Scientific American: “If it's really nothing but atoms and the known forces, there is clearly no way for the soul to survive death. “Believing in life after death, to put it mildly, requires physics beyond the Standard Model. “Most importantly, we need some way for that ‘new physics’ to interact with the atoms that we do have. “Within QFT, there can't be a new collection of ‘spirit particles’ and ‘spirit forces’ that interact with our regular atoms, because we would have detected them in existing experiments.” Once this is accepted by all scientists, Dr Carroll says, then they can truly begin to understand how the human mind operated. He said: “There's no reason to be agnostic about ideas that are dramatically incompatible with everything we know about modern science. “Once we get over any reluctance to face reality on this issue, we can get down to the much more interesting questions of how human beings and consciousness really work.”

[@spookyninja4098]

Pam Reynalds had the best recorded Near Death Experience by medical professionals. She floated above her body and could recall everything that happened in the operating theater. She also saw her family in Spirit and now knows that we all survive in spirit after death. = If you have any questions just ask me

[@trivonnereid8877]

so great to hear that

[@matthewparker-t2q]

@@trivonnereid8877 There is NO life after death: Scientist insists afterlife is IMPOSSIBLE THERE is NO life after death, according to one well respected physicist who claims humanity has to abandon all fanciful beliefs and focus on what the laws of the universe dictate. Sean Carroll, a cosmologist and physics professor at the California Institute of Technology, believes he has put the debate surrounding the afterlife to bed after extensively studying the laws of physics. Dr Carroll states “the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood” and everything happens within the realms of possibility. He says for there to be an afterlife, consciousness would need to be something that is entirely separated from our physical body - which it is not. Rather, consciousness at the very basic level is a series of atoms and electrons which essentially give us our mind. The laws of the universe do not allow these particles to operate after our physical demise, according to Dr Carroll He said: “Claims that some form of consciousness persists after our bodies die and decay into their constituent atoms face one huge, insuperable obstacle: the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood, and there's no way within those laws to allow for the information stored in our brains to persist after we die.” For his evidence, Dr Carroll points to the Quantum Field Theory (QFT). In simple terms, the QFT is the belief there is one field for each type of particle. For example, all the photons in the universe are on one level, and all the electrons too have their own field, and for every other type of particle too. Dr Carroll explains if life continued in some capacity after death, tests on the quantum field would have revealed "spirit particles" and "spirit forces”. Dr Carroll writes in the Scientific American: “If it's really nothing but atoms and the known forces, there is clearly no way for the soul to survive death. “Believing in life after death, to put it mildly, requires physics beyond the Standard Model. “Most importantly, we need some way for that ‘new physics’ to interact with the atoms that we do have. “Within QFT, there can't be a new collection of ‘spirit particles’ and ‘spirit forces’ that interact with our regular atoms, because we would have detected them in existing experiments.” Once this is accepted by all scientists, Dr Carroll says, then they can truly begin to understand how the human mind operated. He said: “There's no reason to be agnostic about ideas that are dramatically incompatible with everything we know about modern science. “Once we get over any reluctance to face reality on this issue, we can get down to the much more interesting questions of how human beings and consciousness really work.”

[@erikgil5901]

When I was like 6 or 7, I was knocked unconscious I guess you can say. I ended up in the hospital. My mom was with me one moment and I remember being in the room. The next thing I remember was seeing different colors like a mixture of them that was kinda vibrant going in an upward direction. The next thing I remember was being back in the hospital waking up.

[@chasindigo]

That is concussion, depending on which part has been injured, this is what will happen, in your case I suspect the occipital lobe.

[@behzadutube]

thanks for sharing your experience but I see nothing extraordinary or mysterious or supernatural in that experience...

[@powerofgod2232]

@@chasindigo 🤣your explanation explained nothing 🤣

[@janewildly]

When I was around 13 or 14, I had a near-death experience. I woke up in the middle of the night with intense chest pain and struggled to breathe. After a terrifying moment, I had a very vivid dream of being in a park with a big tree. Next to it was a bridge with balloons in its abutment. I remember smelling the fresh morning mist and freshly cut grass. Walking across the bridge, I saw my late grandfather at the other end of the bridge. He hugged me, asked why I was there, and told me I couldn’t be there or it wasn't my time yet. I can't remember exactly what he said. This experience has made me not fear death. Although I am struggling with figuring out what my purpose in life is supposed to be.

[@philruane5910]

I drowned in 1991. Floated up, watched the rescue, life review, down the tunnel of light, amazing.

[@evawagner3353]

Same me ,unconscious ,was in tunnel ,saw light ,saw my body in ambulance in the middle forest ,,amazing experience

[@amvines3718]

@@evawagner3353 can u please elaborate i wanna know about it more

[@jayku1624]

Hi! Would you be willing to talk about this experience?

[@philruane5910]

@@jayku1624 yes.

[@AcapellaFella]

My wife knew a girl that died from an opioid overdose and she stated she was in a video game. She had done DMT bedore and said it was more realistic than that.

[@zinoudjenadi137]

I've always thought of psychedelics as a glimpse on what lies beyond, especially total ego death experiences. But I'm pretty sure that real death is way profound than that . STill psychedelics induce the most profound experience that you can experience while still alive 😅

[@m.f.richardson1602]

Sounds like good fashion LSD

[@Yohansanto81]

more realistic than NDE or more realistic than dmt?, sorry before I don't really understand English so I don't understand what you are saying, but I want to know what it means..

[@AcapellaFella]

@@Yohansanto81 DMT

[@TheDopeboyz96]

They are all different , they can't be real. Your brain stays alive for an hour after death.

[@JJoeisCooking]

What about the thousands of people who were near death and experienced nothing?

[@ChorusArtists]

Nothing they can remember. Moreover, it's a very thin line to cross and it's somewhat circumstantial (physiologically), so many who claim to have been "near death" or "dead" actually weren't.

[@whitetransgirlwithdreads]

well if you ignore that data his bullshit makes sense... That thats what about them ;) I can't believe big think would give a platform to this horse shit. It earned my unsub.

[@abhi-_-]

@@whitetransgirlwithdreads i hope u rnt rejecting this theory because of ur religious believes. There was a person who documented 14 cases in India over two decades in which young people remembered their past life and could reveal that in detail.. all their claims were later found to be true...whats interesting is most reincarnation happened within 100 kms of where the last life ended...

[@whitetransgirlwithdreads]

@@abhi-_- I call bullshit. Cite the "study." What were its methods? How was the data collected? How was it fact checked? Did the "hits" amount to more than random chance would suggest? Why did it happen in India? Why wasn't it reproduced in a country with a dominate religion that doesn't believe in reincarnation? And frankly why in an area where daily life for people was/is more or less the same everywhere, and has been for generations? I mean if I can come up with all these questions off the top of my head and I'm not even smart, imagine how completely an educated scientist could shred such a study. I'm sorry but any results from such a thing are skewed and probably invalid. Come do the same study in the US and produce similar results, I dare you. Also, what religious beliefs do you wrongly assume I have? Also, Also, not a theory. It doesn't even have the validity or coherence to be honored with the title of hypotheses.

[@rajatgandharva4]

@@abhi-_- can you share that documentary?

[@gorgzilla1712]

Well, in any case, at least there’s a decent reason for believing that the dying process won’t be so bad.

[@Fatman305]

The vast majority of people who die pass out before experiencing panic or prolonged pain.

[@joebuck4496]

@@offense53 or does it just reflect general theism? Post Enlightenment modern philosophy was an overreaction to the Catholic Church and Christian Scholasticism…the Enlightenment was actually a biased over-rejection against Aristotle and classical & medieval western philosophy as a whole…rather than a rejection of the church/Bible. Western Philosophy was spiritual through & through from the beginning, and contemplation on God (the unmoved mover) was central to its metaphysics. Christian Scholasticism adopted and tweaked Aristotle (Aristotle had nothing to do with any organized religion), and centuries later (by the time of the Enlightenment) many falsely conflated Aristotle and Christianity. Modern philosophy notoriously misinterprets classical philosophers.

[@grantsmythe8625]

May I say....being dead is not bad. Dying is, or can be, bad. Cancer, burns, torture....you get the idea.

[@grantsmythe8625]

@@offense53 I suggest you not finish the book. There's nothing more to learn.

[@matthewparker-t2q]

@@Fatman305 There is NO life after death: Scientist insists afterlife is IMPOSSIBLE THERE is NO life after death, according to one well respected physicist who claims humanity has to abandon all fanciful beliefs and focus on what the laws of the universe dictate. Sean Carroll, a cosmologist and physics professor at the California Institute of Technology, believes he has put the debate surrounding the afterlife to bed after extensively studying the laws of physics. Dr Carroll states “the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood” and everything happens within the realms of possibility. He says for there to be an afterlife, consciousness would need to be something that is entirely separated from our physical body - which it is not. Rather, consciousness at the very basic level is a series of atoms and electrons which essentially give us our mind. The laws of the universe do not allow these particles to operate after our physical demise, according to Dr Carroll He said: “Claims that some form of consciousness persists after our bodies die and decay into their constituent atoms face one huge, insuperable obstacle: the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood, and there's no way within those laws to allow for the information stored in our brains to persist after we die.” For his evidence, Dr Carroll points to the Quantum Field Theory (QFT). In simple terms, the QFT is the belief there is one field for each type of particle. For example, all the photons in the universe are on one level, and all the electrons too have their own field, and for every other type of particle too. Dr Carroll explains if life continued in some capacity after death, tests on the quantum field would have revealed "spirit particles" and "spirit forces”. Dr Carroll writes in the Scientific American: “If it's really nothing but atoms and the known forces, there is clearly no way for the soul to survive death. “Believing in life after death, to put it mildly, requires physics beyond the Standard Model. “Most importantly, we need some way for that ‘new physics’ to interact with the atoms that we do have. “Within QFT, there can't be a new collection of ‘spirit particles’ and ‘spirit forces’ that interact with our regular atoms, because we would have detected them in existing experiments.” Once this is accepted by all scientists, Dr Carroll says, then they can truly begin to understand how the human mind operated. He said: “There's no reason to be agnostic about ideas that are dramatically incompatible with everything we know about modern science. “Once we get over any reluctance to face reality on this issue, we can get down to the much more interesting questions of how human beings and consciousness really work.”

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I recall one day, I had experience of the soul of clinically dead individual, he was one of the soldiers in my previous troop, this troop had couple of hundred of soldiers, and I left it more than 6 months before this vision, it's also important to mention, that we weren't close friends at all before. My new brigade was miles, miles aways from my pervious brigade, and all of the soldiers there were Druze, who are very isolate from other Israelites, I was one of the very few Jews(if there is such an ethnicity) in this brigade. I always knew that dreams are basically our thoughts, and I never had any vivid dreams before. yet, at that time. I saw him in my dream, he was sitting on a chair with a mask, and he told me, "look what happened to me" Then he removed his mask, and all his face were covered with very severe burns, it was so real, and so frighting, that I woke up panicked from this nightmare vision and I was covered with cold sweat. I literally shouted from horror. But since I always was very atheist and materialist person, I assumed it was just an unusual creepy dream and nothing more. Until about 1 month later, some friends form my pervious brigade, found my phone number and notify me about this event, I discovered that he was declared dead from his injuries around the same time I had this vison. he was set on fire as an accident in a barbecue. he spilled a highly flammable substance on the barbecue and went on fire as a result. I didn't have any way to know this, it was never reported in the news, and I didn't even have any access to media and newspapers around that time, I wasn't in contact with any of the soldiers that could possibly know anything about it, in fact I wasn't in contact with anyone of this unit for very long period of time, I'm not a social person, so right after I moved to another brigade, I didn't keep any contact with these guys. I couldn't even have anyway to predict this possibility, because he never played with fire, and before the time I left, there was never any such barbecue event. Years went by since then, and the only thing that disturb me the most, is not the tragedy, because I believe he exist somewhere else. I feel bad that I was so chicken to wake up from this dream, because now I realize there is highly likelihood he wanted to send an important message toward me. and I wasn't there to help him. this is the real tragedy. Also it may worth mentioning that he(the clinically dead) wasn't supposed to know anything about my new brigade or location, no one of the soldiers from my previous brigade should have known, this is not to say that they could not found out, so although this is a bit puzzling, this should really be the tip of the iceberg. I'm the most atheist guy ever, and still am, but that doesn't mean I'm a materialist, and not that I certain there should be any distinction between spiritualism and materialism, maybe it's just a matter of definition, you can choose to define the physical world as spiritual.

[@Using-px3ez]

[@carriepoggio517]

This segment is one of the most compelling I’ve seen. Thank you for sharing this.

[@AS-xq5lz]

I love the idea of exploring something new here - there's definitely something to this that we'll discover which will hopefully be very exciting for everyone!

[@chasindigo]

I think you are living in a pipe dream, the person is a psychiatrist (a nutty one at that) not a neurologist, he is selling snake oil and you just bought it.

[@AS-xq5lz]

@@chasindigo I may be living in a pipe dream. You're the type of person who would have thought that computer technology is snake oil as it was coming onto the scene. (and the idea that the earth is spherical)

[@bigthink]

@A S glad you liked it! It's interesting to see there are still mysteries left in the world, regardless of what the eventual explanation ends up being. There's a lot of studies going on with animals and humans (though near-death is obviously difficult to study in a lab setting) and we're learning more every year. bigthink.com/life/death/

[@AS-xq5lz]

@@bigthink "We will have one condition with 1000 patients who we will kill using 4 different methods (just in case the method of death is a variable that affects NDE's). In the placebo arm another 1000 patients who we will simply place into a coma, or shoot them with a tranquilliser that looks similar to a gun. For this study we will compensate you £5 and a donut of your choosing!"

[@grantsmythe8625]

Traditional religion, however it began and whatever it's become, just doesn't do much anymore for many millions of people. We're looking for a new road back to the original experience. NDEs are opening up that new road for many.

[@parkerplace2910]

I recently lost my whole family of origin. I think about them everyday. I wonder where they are and what they're doing, or if they even exist at all anymore? It's overwhelming me.

[@dave56758]

I'm so sorry for your losses

[@LQ639]

What a great scientist! He's not one of those narrow-minded, boastful researchers, dismissing every argument instantly or being condescending towards the things they don't understand/the people who have had NDEs. I never had one, nor have I been particularly religious, but I do have an open mind for this possibility of an afterlife and actually even hope it is the case. Maybe in 30-40 years, there will actually be a proof it is or a proof it isn't the case. As long as that, I believe it is.

[@ashesashesweallfalldown7171]

He's not a scientist, his research also doesn't use any scientific evidence of any kind. He research is literally just collecting anecdotal experience from people and then NOT proving how they are connected, whats happening in their brains, nor any experiments to back up any of his claims.

[@H0neybee_]

This is off subject a bit, but the 2 hours leading up to my grandmothers death,i kept hearing thunder,and had this feeling i wasnt gonna see my gma in the morning, soon as i got the call around 10pm it began raining very hard and thundering even more, until i broke the news to my sister and all the family knew..then the rain stopped. I absolutely believe she wasnt going out without lettin us know. The same day(that afternoon), when i was told her health declined drastically i had been parked somewhere watching the sunset, and i couldnt even cry, i was unable to feel sad, there was this incredibly comforting energy in the air and around me . A little while later the thunder began. And i could not shake the feeling that i was making a mistake not going to see her that night, cuz it felt like itd be my last chance. You cant convince me that there isnt a higher power, angels or spirits . This same grandmother lost her husband years ago, but for a year or so after his passing the door bell would play music (not the set doorbell sound) late at night . The clock would stop at the time he use to go to the corner bar. She also would see a ghost pass her kitchen window over the years. Oneday i witnessed it for myself, yelled that someone was about to knock (because they passed the window/walkway to the front door)..the knock never came . i lookes out the door and was freaked out. I absolutely believe there is so much more than just living on this planet. We are spiritual beings ,here on earth learning lessons ,wisening our soul .

[@Dion_Mustard]

I've had an OBE and various lucid dream states , so I know beyond any reasonable doubt that consciousness is non local , i.e it doesn't purely reside in the brain. I wouldn't have believed this long ago until I had the experience myself.

[@Dion_Mustard]

@@HammerLeaf too much to go into here. I could write several chapters on my out of body experiences and lucid dreams !

[@kenkaplan3654]

@@Dion_Mustard Maybe you should as an article. It helps to legitimize these things.

[@Dion_Mustard]

@@kenkaplan3654 article?

[@PeterS123101]

But lucid dreams are dreams. Dreaming, that you are out of your body, ist not an OOB experience.

[@Dion_Mustard]

@@PeterS123101 I have had both, and both are very different..

[@ADude-f3z]

The senses are defining boundaries. And when “shut off” , boundaries interpreting presence in space and time are removed. Sometimes, segments of the experience can be remembered. But to anyone who has not experienced this phenomenon, the experience cannot be properly defined.

[@njelique]

"Scientists don't run away from things they don't understand, they run towards them." Let's hope all scientists do this, especially those who have the public's and policymakers' eyes and ears.

[@Aldarinn]

If there is nothing before or after this life, then this life contains too many possibilities of suffering to be of any importance, to the extent that it is actually safer to dispense with it altogether than to wait around and allow it to cause more suffering.

[@grantsmythe8625]

I have found that some people are afraid to believe in any kind of continuing life for fear of what it may imply.

[@stevensteven3417]

Life isnt that bad for everybody, for some maybe.

[@matthewparker-t2q]

@@grantsmythe8625 There is NO life after death: Scientist insists afterlife is IMPOSSIBLE THERE is NO life after death, according to one well respected physicist who claims humanity has to abandon all fanciful beliefs and focus on what the laws of the universe dictate. Sean Carroll, a cosmologist and physics professor at the California Institute of Technology, believes he has put the debate surrounding the afterlife to bed after extensively studying the laws of physics. Dr Carroll states “the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood” and everything happens within the realms of possibility. He says for there to be an afterlife, consciousness would need to be something that is entirely separated from our physical body - which it is not. Rather, consciousness at the very basic level is a series of atoms and electrons which essentially give us our mind. The laws of the universe do not allow these particles to operate after our physical demise, according to Dr Carroll He said: “Claims that some form of consciousness persists after our bodies die and decay into their constituent atoms face one huge, insuperable obstacle: the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood, and there's no way within those laws to allow for the information stored in our brains to persist after we die.” For his evidence, Dr Carroll points to the Quantum Field Theory (QFT). In simple terms, the QFT is the belief there is one field for each type of particle. For example, all the photons in the universe are on one level, and all the electrons too have their own field, and for every other type of particle too. Dr Carroll explains if life continued in some capacity after death, tests on the quantum field would have revealed "spirit particles" and "spirit forces”. Dr Carroll writes in the Scientific American: “If it's really nothing but atoms and the known forces, there is clearly no way for the soul to survive death. “Believing in life after death, to put it mildly, requires physics beyond the Standard Model. “Most importantly, we need some way for that ‘new physics’ to interact with the atoms that we do have. “Within QFT, there can't be a new collection of ‘spirit particles’ and ‘spirit forces’ that interact with our regular atoms, because we would have detected them in existing experiments.” Once this is accepted by all scientists, Dr Carroll says, then they can truly begin to understand how the human mind operated. He said: “There's no reason to be agnostic about ideas that are dramatically incompatible with everything we know about modern science. “Once we get over any reluctance to face reality on this issue, we can get down to the much more interesting questions of how human beings and consciousness really work.”

[@truecynic1270]

52 years ago I overdosed on heroin. My 'boy' friend was with me at the time. I recall completing the injection, then experiencing blackness ( the way you would see a movie scene faded out), then visually "coming to" to experiencing myself moving toward a bright, round light surrounded with sky blue colour. There was no sensation of my body moving, but the "movement toward" was definitely focused from my head/brain. There was also no sensation of time - it seemed that time was irrelevant. I have no idea how long I had been "out" but, again, as in a movie, the 'screen" became black and I suddenly became conscious again, surprised to be covered in water ( he had thrown water on me...) . I also recall no personal emotional response to this event - more like intellectual curiosity in wondering what I was seeing and "where" I was heading. To me, this event was terribly short and I would've liked to have remained in the scene for longer. The entire event was also not a choice I made nor did I have any control over it. ( but I had had very little control over my own thoughts and life up to that point anyway so that was no surprise or question. This event didn't change me at all, however. Indeed it was a rather comforting feeling since I ( until this day) had feelings of very low self-worth and esteem. I had already made one previous suicide attempt ( and would try again about 2 years later. For some reason, I'm still alive but am definitely not afraid of dying. Because of having two wonderful adult sons, I control myself from taking any deliberate self-action ( except for continued self- medication) but I hope, hope, hope I am reunited somehow with my beloved pets again. Thank you for a very interesting video. PS: I'm not surprised that "near-death' experiences are non-culturally different as we are all part of the same 'human" experience....................

[@truecynic1270]

@user-tz4pb6qz7k Fascinating response. Thank you. And it makes sense. Certainly different from "out of body" experiences which people talk about. So 'those' can't be near death if one is 'able' to see and hear what's happening to the body itself. That's a huge distinction......Interesting how 'words/language" can be misinterpreted and/ or misused because haven't I heard people say " they thought they were dying while having an out of body experience on a surgery table?" Hmmm.....I'd be interested to know, then, another group's perceptions of "out of body" and, that is, those people who can do "astro-travelling?" I'm fascinated by the concepts of "parallel universe/electrical/deja-vue/etc/etc" because I've never experienced something like those and I'm very curious about 'it all!"

[@truecynic1270]

@user-tz4pb6qz7k Thank you so much for your added facts. It seems that the mind must relinquish control of the physical body at some point and there's actually a mechanism to reassure and comfort the mind before entering this phase. Very cool. I look forward to it. Thanks again!

[@martinlarrivee5081]

I think that the mistake to avoid is thinking that near death-experiences ARE the afterlife if any. Maybe you float over your body, see a light tunnel or relive your whole life, or hear something in another room or see an angel, even access to the full potential of your brain which could seem totally alien to a human being... If we suddenly have access to our full reserve of love, it could feel like heaven or something bigger, or "outside" ourselves. BUT these could very well still be 3D-4D-5D terrestrial experiences and not "the other side". Even if we are dead, the heart stops, we are still "alive" in some way until we are only matter. We don't know when consciousness enters the body when it leaves or if it survives death. We don't know if consciousness itself is a property that exists beyond life as we know it. By thinking this way, you can give value and credibility to that very real thing you experienced, without necessarily falling into the trap of thinking you have proof of a belief attached to it.

[@Dr.mandril]

Thats why we should study this more, but so many ignore these claims. Scientists should be open to all possibilites and just not this material doctrine that they are raised with, science is about questioning yourself.

[@AWOLCPA]

Yes. As much as I would love to believe all this it can be explained in terms of the dying brain attempting to make sense of the world collapsing around it. The brain knows what point is "now" by putting the experience in context. Meaning it tells the difference between a memory and "now" buy scanning to see if the moments before "and after now" are consistent. A dying brain scans all your experiences to see which one makes sense chronologically. This explains the life review that many report. The tunnel is our eyes freezing as the brain shuts down. Floating Above the bed is the brain reviewing the last memory it had. To test this floating experience people have put messages in the operating room where you could only see them if you were truly floating above the operating table. None have been able to see these messages when they come back.

[@elinalukyanova4983]

I fully agree!

[@monicarenee7949]

True but I don’t know why we’d discourage people from believing in an afterlife based on it, either. We won’t know until we die and by then only the dead will be impacted by it. I will say though, I’ve had interesting interactions with people who were long dead so it feels like there’s something beyond this life for sure.

[@martinlarrivee5081]

@@monicarenee7949 I didn't say afterlife doesn't exist, I said that it doesn't mean near-death or short deaths experiences ARE the afterlife or proof of it.

[@jarenfromvenus]

I’d like to discuss psychosis and second sight. Some people have supernatural experience that’s just tossed away as insane.

[@latoyadale5747]

Hmmm... Good point!🤔

[@latasha3472]

Yes it’s very real. Experienced it first hand I’m still trying to grasps what I experienced in the afterlife and being sent back to my old body

[@sainteangelo4662]

Would you mind telling your experience?

[@229babyatlas]

Can you tell us about it?

[@celestialsatheist1535]

Not really convinced about after Life. But I am finding this subject extremely interesting. Let more data in. As a science fan. I always want to know new things. And pursuit the truth. No matter what the Truth is . Let's continue the research

[@leakedclipsdaily]

Science will never be able to conclude what happens after death. We aren't meant to know just like we aren't meant to know what happens if our energy is absorbed by a black hole. We can only come up with theories and with advancements in technology, nothing will change.

[@celestialsatheist1535]

@@leakedclipsdaily that's what people used to say when people didn't know that was the earth flat or not. They used to say we may never know if the world flat or not.

[@leakedclipsdaily]

@@celestialsatheist1535 - Terrible comparison. Simply going out in space proved the earth isn't flat. We can't physically go out to the other side of a black hole and can't comeback from death.

[@celestialsatheist1535]

@@leakedclipsdaily we can't do that at this instead. Remember there was a time when humans couldn't fly. Now it's a everyday things.

[@leakedclipsdaily]

@@celestialsatheist1535 - No Humans cannot fly and they never will be able to fly. They can use objects to fly them that they are in or attached to them. Edit: Correction maybe in the future we can do something gene related to make humans fly I mean technically it's physically possible but going through a black hole or seeing what happens specifically after death will never be possible.

[@swyveu]

The crux : "I think a reason many people find near-death experiences interesting is because they hold out the promise that will explain to us what the soul is, whether there is an afterlife, after our body is decomposed. And I think those are good questions, I don't think that's the most important part of the near-death experience. I think they do tell us something about the possibility of surviving bodily death. But I think the important part of near-death experiences is what they tell us about this life we're in now."

[@jonunciate7018]

My annoyance with people who have an NDE is they always attach spiritual significance to it, which I find presumptuous. But it also gives them renewed purpose for life which is great... unless that renewed purpose is telling everyone they are going to hell if they aren't Christian...

[@kevin02era50]

What if it is? We obviously aren’t gonna know until we die

[@traumatizednewt104_4]

augh i know. i was raised christian. i hate how people can see what they want to see and jump to conclusions. its a common tendency within some religions to not think logically but use everything as evidence to reaffirm preconceived ideas. i would say im deeply hurt by religion and how they didnt use any sort of scientific methods to arrive at their points of belief

[@traumatizednewt104_4]

also, for a religious person, its obvious to see that the reason they believe what they believe is because people who'd had ndes had died and they assumed the bright light they saw was God reaffirming their beliefs... so then if the people who started the religion made assumptions about that bright light it will only be reaffirmed thousands of years later with the same strength of preconceptions

[@Maicon-b1b]

Jesus Christ died for your sins Even though you have something against Christ, Christ still loves you

[@Amandapanda114]

Your annoyance? They attach spiritual meaning because to them, it HAD spiritual meaning. Atheists attach spiritual meaning to them - that should tell you something. And I'd find a hobby if NDE people could annoy me. 😂

[@henriklmao]

I died a couple times yesterday on a cannabis trip... At least it felt like death. I had no control of my body, I fell somewhere into grass, unconscious, not moving but with open eyes doing weird noises (As a friend explained and also how I saw myself). I thankfully found the way back into my body thru seeing my inner self and slowly getting more and more conscious. I slowly got up from the floor and layed down on a bench. I could finally talk a bit again, although very hard to understand. My friend phoned a couple of others and asked them what he should do. He always talked to me and showed me some things that happened in that moment, like some jogger running around, which helped me repersonalising a lot. Only thing I moved was my fingers and I showed a piece sign. I wanted to show him that I'm getting better, but neither I could talk properly and logically, nor I could move any part of my body except of my fingers. I learned quite a lot about the escense of life and about god. And I also learned that this is the wrong way of getting to a deeper state of mind. Just don't smoke weed, that stuff is not the right way, nor a good thing! And before anyone says that this is not weeds fault, I got it from the friend who helped me and we both shared the spliff with him taking way more than I did. He was fine, I wasnt at all.

[@jenh6247]

Thank you Dr Greyson for speaking out on NDEs and breaking this ground in western medicine. In a field so dominated by only the tangible and easily measurable, I think it’s vitally important we explore this too

[@badatheist9948]

how can one falsify this. you can not. and everyone that has an nde sees the god that they believe in.

[@carolinpurayidom4570]

@@badatheist9948 Not really many people that don't believe in god or who have grown in a different religious culture as well as believing them seeing Jesus or the source love and and light

[@shaneroper5470]

Energies and frequencies. Dimensions we can't see actually exist. Life is the consubstantiality of joining of matter and spirit, or energy. Upon death, the spirit and the body disjoin.

[@Plato628]

whenever i tried to bring myself to commit suicide, my main source of being okay with it, was that i would be able to see my family in heaven and do all the things i couldnt and would do. but something clicked and i quite literally didnt sleep for 3 days researching if the afterlife was real. i got so depressed that suicide wasnt even an option, i just felt like a fuse, i can be put out now, or wait till the end to see if it really explodes. even now, i wish i could go back to the blissfulness of my beliefs in the afterlife, i have basically come to the terms that theres a possibility of a void of nothing where i have no identity, family, thoughts, feelings, or memories. but theres been so many things in my life that werent possible to explain as scientific fact or a coincidence. for example my mom constantly gets birthday numbers of passed on loved ones on random things. something im going off of right now, is that the dreams ive been having, have second by second predicted EXACTLY what would happen one day. ive started remembering dreams i had when i was 7 when i do random activities and then realize im in the exact scenario and place where it happened in that dream. and as of recently ive literally gotten dreams that have my next day activities planned out with things that CANT be planned. scientists can call it a coping mechanism and a coincisdense, but i believe that theres NO FUCKING WAY that all of these predictions, ghost sightings, dreams, numbers, consciousness, identity, memories, JUST EVERYTHING IN TOTAL doesnt have a deeper meaning. idk maybe im just spewing my delusions lol.

[@Daily-PE]

I doubt you are delusional friend

[@tanqrsimp7892]

Thank you so bloody much ❤ You helped me ❤

[@Plato628]

@@tanqrsimp7892 im glad i couldve helped. hope your doing okay! ♥

[@matthewparker-t2q]

There is NO life after death: Scientist insists afterlife is IMPOSSIBLE THERE is NO life after death, according to one well respected physicist who claims humanity has to abandon all fanciful beliefs and focus on what the laws of the universe dictate. Sean Carroll, a cosmologist and physics professor at the California Institute of Technology, believes he has put the debate surrounding the afterlife to bed after extensively studying the laws of physics. Dr Carroll states “the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood” and everything happens within the realms of possibility. He says for there to be an afterlife, consciousness would need to be something that is entirely separated from our physical body - which it is not. Rather, consciousness at the very basic level is a series of atoms and electrons which essentially give us our mind. The laws of the universe do not allow these particles to operate after our physical demise, according to Dr Carroll He said: “Claims that some form of consciousness persists after our bodies die and decay into their constituent atoms face one huge, insuperable obstacle: the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood, and there's no way within those laws to allow for the information stored in our brains to persist after we die.” For his evidence, Dr Carroll points to the Quantum Field Theory (QFT). In simple terms, the QFT is the belief there is one field for each type of particle. For example, all the photons in the universe are on one level, and all the electrons too have their own field, and for every other type of particle too. Dr Carroll explains if life continued in some capacity after death, tests on the quantum field would have revealed "spirit particles" and "spirit forces”. Dr Carroll writes in the Scientific American: “If it's really nothing but atoms and the known forces, there is clearly no way for the soul to survive death. “Believing in life after death, to put it mildly, requires physics beyond the Standard Model. “Most importantly, we need some way for that ‘new physics’ to interact with the atoms that we do have. “Within QFT, there can't be a new collection of ‘spirit particles’ and ‘spirit forces’ that interact with our regular atoms, because we would have detected them in existing experiments.” Once this is accepted by all scientists, Dr Carroll says, then they can truly begin to understand how the human mind operated. He said: “There's no reason to be agnostic about ideas that are dramatically incompatible with everything we know about modern science. “Once we get over any reluctance to face reality on this issue, we can get down to the much more interesting questions of how human beings and consciousness really work.”

[@anannyapaul1090]

It didn't happen to me but to my dad he still talks about it to this day. My dad experienced OBE when he was in hospital back in 2014 . He fell nd injured his back of head area nd was hospitalized for almost a month .He was in a manic state , we had to tie him down to the bed cuz he was lashing at everyone . At one time in hospital he disappeared for almost an hour nd none of us cud find him , after searching for a while we found him in the bathroom, sleeping idk how . When he woke up he told us that he had gone outside of his room all the way to the hospital reception nd then came back on his own . It wasn't possible for him to go cuz 1st he was tied down 2nd he lost some of his memory nd can't possible remember the way to his room or any other place . He chngd so much after this accident, he is someone who cud live on instant ramen for months nd have no interest in cooking but now he became kinda like our home chef nd make these exotic dishes also he was nd atheist but now somehow became religious . I actually rlly like this chng .. 😅

[@blacklyfe5543]

You can't go from a atheist to a religious person he was never an atheist to begin with

[@carolinpurayidom4570]

@@blacklyfe5543 Bruh

[@scienceevolves4417]

@@carolinpurayidom4570 sis!

[@moniquelevan2216]

I am in a Facebook group where people share their stories and one common theme is a garden/meadow/forest and encountering a bright orb or light who speaks to them. A lot of people in the group from various religions have said that it was the total opposite of what they were taught. It's super interesting.

[@elvinahmadzadeh9527]

Can you name the group? I'd like to join)

[@naif8385]

In quran book there a sentence about near death experience in chapter (Qaf) number [50] that says: "You were certainly in unmindfulness of this, and We have removed from you your cover, so your sight, this Day, is sharp." (22)

[@goodvibe6811]

I wish I could find someone that could explain my experiences. They are not NDEs. I am ACTUALLY WITH people when they die. I've heard the theory that NDE's are just the dying mind. But no one has ever been able to answer what happens to ME. All my life I've been with people when they die, if they die when I am sleeping. I remember every single time because, even tho I call them dreams they are really experiences. I am WITH these people. My uncle Geoff died when I was pretty young. I was asleep and dreaming that I was up in Tornoto with him and we were crossing Bloor. I was holding his hand and the walk sign lit up. As we stepped into the crosswalk I heard a beeping noise. I said, "what was that?" My uncle looked at his watch and said, "Oh, its time for me to go." And I was left standing alone almost to the middle of Bloor street. Then BOOM I woke up. My mom came in the next morning and said that she had sad news. I told her that I know its about Unlce Geoff and he died. She asked how I knew that and I told her my dream. I have literally dozens of these. My recently my former boss who died of Leukemia. Our team stayed close even after they closed our department and we all went our separate ways, we never lost touch. When we got the call about our boss we were shocked. So anyway, he was in hospice. My daughter and her husband had just gotten out of the military and were living with me while looking for a house. So my grandson had toys all over the living room. I actually had been on the phone late with one of my former colleauges as we talked about our bosses sad situation. I fell asleep on the couch in the living room. I fell into a dream about my boss. We were way up in the air in the most beautiful, bright white glider. There was not one sound, it was so quiet. The sky was the bluest I had ever seen and the clouds were blinding white. I had the most ovewhleming sense of peace and joy. My boss was in the pilot seat, I was looking right into his big gorgeous blue eyes that were the same color as the sky and his hair and smile as white and the clouds and glider. It was so vivid. His smile was amazing. We didn't talk but I knew in my heart he was gone and that he was free and very very happy. I woke up and knew instantly he was gone,. I texted my colleague so she' havea time stamp of my dream. As I sat on the couch in the dark this loud music startled me, it was my grandsons top across the room. This was a top that spins, plays loud music and lights up when you push the plunger. The plunger was really hard to push. I had to put all my weight on it. As it spun, and lit up and played music I just stared and knew it was him saying a final goodbye, confirming my dream! When it stopped I walked over to hold it and IT WAS NOT ON. There was a button on the side of this top that had to be in the on position to actually light up and play the music. You could spin it with the plunger without it being "on' but the music and lights would not come on. My friend confirmed he died at the time I had the dream! LIke I said. This has happened since I was a small child and I remember ever single instance! But this isn't my brain dying. There is not one person whose been able to explain how this happens. Its not the only thing that happens or has happened for me too. I used to scare my poor mom. Some of the things I did as a child really freaked her out. But one thing really got her was when I would wakd up and shake my crib and say, "I want to go home" and she'd reply to me that I was home and I'd say, "No my big home with the white pickett fence." Now the hardest part to believe about that is that I was not of talking age when it occured. There were many other things. My mom was telling a man at her work about all of it one day and he was actually doing research on such things and wanted to interview me but when she told him I was 11 he said it was too late. He thought that I was still very small. Had lots of freaking experiences with my kids too when they were little. I should write a darn book. I have it all in my head. Every single experiece. The only one I don't remember is talking to my mom as an infant. Everything else I remember vividly. Oh and my mom too. Her best friend came and sat on her bed when she died. My mom was in high school. Her friend died on Christmas Eve in a terrible car accident. Dianne came and sat on the edge of mom's bed. Mom said that she woke up in the middle of the night and saw Dianne and said, "what are you doing here?" then she realized she could see through her and she got really scared. She said that as soon as she got scared Dianne vanished. My grandmother came to tell my mom that Dianne had died in an accident later in the morning. My mom spent Christmas planning her best friends funeral with her family. To my mom's dying day she always said how much she truly regretted getting scared and not talking with Dianne. I am sure she has caught up with Dianne now!

[@johnb8854]

*The human entity, is NOT "LIFE The Real Self" !*

[@priscillawrites6685]

When I was 2 years old, my dad had an NDE when his heart stopped for 6 minutes and doctors worked to revive him. The experience transformed his life; he changed careers and went on to save millions of lives. The gift to me was that throughout my childhood he told me about his NDE, emphasizing that I never have to be afraid of death; it is painless. Life, on the other hand, is difficult, he said.

[@matthewparker-t2q]

There is NO life after death: Scientist insists afterlife is IMPOSSIBLE THERE is NO life after death, according to one well respected physicist who claims humanity has to abandon all fanciful beliefs and focus on what the laws of the universe dictate. Sean Carroll, a cosmologist and physics professor at the California Institute of Technology, believes he has put the debate surrounding the afterlife to bed after extensively studying the laws of physics. Dr Carroll states “the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood” and everything happens within the realms of possibility. He says for there to be an afterlife, consciousness would need to be something that is entirely separated from our physical body - which it is not. Rather, consciousness at the very basic level is a series of atoms and electrons which essentially give us our mind. The laws of the universe do not allow these particles to operate after our physical demise, according to Dr Carroll He said: “Claims that some form of consciousness persists after our bodies die and decay into their constituent atoms face one huge, insuperable obstacle: the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood, and there's no way within those laws to allow for the information stored in our brains to persist after we die.” For his evidence, Dr Carroll points to the Quantum Field Theory (QFT). In simple terms, the QFT is the belief there is one field for each type of particle. For example, all the photons in the universe are on one level, and all the electrons too have their own field, and for every other type of particle too. Dr Carroll explains if life continued in some capacity after death, tests on the quantum field would have revealed "spirit particles" and "spirit forces”. Dr Carroll writes in the Scientific American: “If it's really nothing but atoms and the known forces, there is clearly no way for the soul to survive death. “Believing in life after death, to put it mildly, requires physics beyond the Standard Model. “Most importantly, we need some way for that ‘new physics’ to interact with the atoms that we do have. “Within QFT, there can't be a new collection of ‘spirit particles’ and ‘spirit forces’ that interact with our regular atoms, because we would have detected them in existing experiments.” Once this is accepted by all scientists, Dr Carroll says, then they can truly begin to understand how the human mind operated. He said: “There's no reason to be agnostic about ideas that are dramatically incompatible with everything we know about modern science. “Once we get over any reluctance to face reality on this issue, we can get down to the much more interesting questions of how human beings and consciousness really work.”

[@theprodigy9617]

​@user-yv3eu6hf6h are you stupid?

[@gobofraggel7383]

We haven't a clue what started time, matter, the universe. Science can take us so far. In 1985 I was playing a video game at a pizzeria. It was only the 3rd or 4th time I had played but something happened which to this day neither me nor anyone who was there can explain. I was able to essentially beat the machine with almost no experience. Time slowed down as far as the game went, and my hands knew how to move on their own. The pizzeria was packed with people and no one could believe what was happening because it should have been impossible. Eventually I grew uncomfortable by the crowed and I gave the game to someone who was the best player anyone knew. I heard him lose all lives in seconds. At the same time I could see myself in a mirror and my pupils were large pools, my ears were beet red and as I looked at the people around me I cannot explain how but I knew them, what they were feeling, what was hurting them, and I thought this is what Jesus and every other enlightened man could see in people. It was instant and total knowing. I spoke to complete strangers that day, about too many topics to recall, it was a spiritual experience for me. The following day it was gone, never to return. In my mind at least, anything is possible, we and our universe is proof of that. We are physical, but behind it all is something greater, something infinite.

[@robertkhan6599]

I need a big think video every morning

[@medjisont.493]

I was pronounced dead in 2011 by that time I was only 11 years old. that day I just had a fever, hot boiling feeling. they were going to put me in the hospital morgue and my mom didn't want them too cuz she didn't believe what was going on. The doctor said ok we're going to keep him for a few hours and if nothing changes we'll have to take it to the morgue because there nothing else they do, I was surrounded by my mom and a uncle of mine. looking at me while I was on serum and other plastic wires on me. I woke up and I have no idea where I was at and what's happening I ripped everything that was strapped on me and try to leave. I got stopped by a security and got handcuff in the hospital bed. that was the most craziest moment of my life.

[@nimrodverbai1290]

I really needed this i was down the bottom my grandmother died a few days ago and i wasnt doing well in scool in sports and i couldnt sleep this gives me chills and im happy about finding these out

[@matthewparker-t2q]

There is NO life after death: Scientist insists afterlife is IMPOSSIBLE THERE is NO life after death, according to one well respected physicist who claims humanity has to abandon all fanciful beliefs and focus on what the laws of the universe dictate. Sean Carroll, a cosmologist and physics professor at the California Institute of Technology, believes he has put the debate surrounding the afterlife to bed after extensively studying the laws of physics. Dr Carroll states “the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood” and everything happens within the realms of possibility. He says for there to be an afterlife, consciousness would need to be something that is entirely separated from our physical body - which it is not. Rather, consciousness at the very basic level is a series of atoms and electrons which essentially give us our mind. The laws of the universe do not allow these particles to operate after our physical demise, according to Dr Carroll He said: “Claims that some form of consciousness persists after our bodies die and decay into their constituent atoms face one huge, insuperable obstacle: the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood, and there's no way within those laws to allow for the information stored in our brains to persist after we die.” For his evidence, Dr Carroll points to the Quantum Field Theory (QFT). In simple terms, the QFT is the belief there is one field for each type of particle. For example, all the photons in the universe are on one level, and all the electrons too have their own field, and for every other type of particle too. Dr Carroll explains if life continued in some capacity after death, tests on the quantum field would have revealed "spirit particles" and "spirit forces”. Dr Carroll writes in the Scientific American: “If it's really nothing but atoms and the known forces, there is clearly no way for the soul to survive death. “Believing in life after death, to put it mildly, requires physics beyond the Standard Model. “Most importantly, we need some way for that ‘new physics’ to interact with the atoms that we do have. “Within QFT, there can't be a new collection of ‘spirit particles’ and ‘spirit forces’ that interact with our regular atoms, because we would have detected them in existing experiments.” Once this is accepted by all scientists, Dr Carroll says, then they can truly begin to understand how the human mind operated. He said: “There's no reason to be agnostic about ideas that are dramatically incompatible with everything we know about modern science. “Once we get over any reluctance to face reality on this issue, we can get down to the much more interesting questions of how human beings and consciousness really work.”

[@ianvaldez3886]

As a huge skeptiko fan this is refreshing. I've always connected NDE's with Greg Bishops theory of co-creation in the paranormal sphere. Makes sense why everyone has different but similar experiences based on the belief system of the experiencer.

[@tmurphy0919]

So people see what they want to see. Shocker. How does that prove the paranormal?

[@josepht5331]

@@tmurphy0919 I think the same way. Neil DeGrasse Tyson talked about this same thing before and it made complete sense. People see a “warm light” because they are in an emergency room/trauma room where there are super bright “hot” lights flashing down on them… And not only that they have done experiments on people who claim to have NDE and would place a note next to the person on the table to see if they could read the note back to them when/if they woke up, but nobody ever knew what they note said even though they claim they saw themselves on the table. And if people are having religious based experiences and we have different types of religions I have to believe these NDE are linked to personal belief more than actual reality. As far as the story with the girl this doctor talks about it is very possible that the woman talked to her friend about their conversation and his tie and said what she said. Not saying for sure because idk but it is very possible. There are people in the world who want to prove themselves right very badly and will lie to do so 🤷🏾‍♂️. I’m completely agnostic so I’m open to evidence and proof (which is why I watched this video) but even this is still mostly driven from human testimony which we all should know is the worst form of evidence there is. There may be something to the connection of NDE and what lies beyond but to say it’s your religion being proven right is still very up in the air and not proven.

[@tmurphy0919]

@@josepht5331 You typed everything from inside my head, almost verbatim, except the note in my version is on top of the cabinet. GASP!! You must have had an NDE!! There's no other explanation!! Remember believers, the plural of anecdote is NOT data.

[@josepht5331]

@@tmurphy0919 😂😂

[@ianvaldez3886]

@@tmurphy0919 it doesn't lol. That's the point

[@paytonstephens8653]

I broke my neck, 22 bones in my skull, and my jaw in a car accident when I was 19. I saw Heaven, and came back. Wasn’t supposed to walk or feel anything below my shoulders, along with a traumatic brain injury. I’m 28, I’m doing fine. The accident messed with my head though, not that people can see or notice. I obsessively think about the after life. Before the accident I was a drug addict, committing crimes, incredibly selfish. Now I’m the complete opposite. I just have questions about the whole thing that no one has answers too. Don’t know why I’m typing this, just felt like getting it out.

[@udo9999]

Thanks for this interesting video!

[@bigthink]

Glad you liked it, thanks for watching!

[@al-salemeyeclinic.1]

وَمَا هَٰذِهِ الْحَيَاةُ الدُّنْيَا إِلَّا لَهْوٌ وَلَعِبٌ ۚ وَإِنَّ الدَّارَ الْآخِرَةَ لَهِيَ الْحَيَوَانُ ۚ لَوْ كَانُوا يَعْلَمُونَ (64)

[@Guy-cr7nd]

I don’t really like religion, but I want to believe in the after life. I love life

[@Dark_Force_Of_Wishes]

Why Don't You Like Religion?

[@Guy-cr7nd]

@@Dark_Force_Of_Wishes because religion can be controlling and fear based. It forces you to want to be perfect at least in Christianity. The rule of life in my opinion should be treat people kindly, don’t kill, don’t steal, and don’t commit adultery. All the other stuff just makes you live in guilt

[@rozznel8692]

@@Guy-cr7nd "The rule of life in my opinion ..." For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, ... hatred, ...drunkenness, ... - from Galations chap.5 Bible

[@UHFStation1]

Gives me hope.

[@powerofgod2232]

There is something don't lose hope.

[@Zulu369]

"Scientists don't run away from things they don't understand. They run towards them."

[@Lea31706]

I’ve had an NDE and it felt so normal like someone saying your cup is on the side in the kitchen…I’m not scared of dying again at all x

[@h.r.529]

did it fell peacful?

[@Lea31706]

@@h.r.529 it’s really hard to explain, it’s like you already know what’s happened and it’s just as normal as breathing, I remember actually laughing and thinking how I forget it’s so simple

[@jonathancervantes4554]

@@Lea31706 will we see our loved loves

[@Lea31706]

@@jonathancervantes4554 again a hard question they never went anywhere and we are all part of the same source, it’s like they just nipped to the other room there is no time but I can only explain like this , it’s seconds this life so you don’t even notice there are not around

[@dreamthedream8929]

@@Lea31706 im sorry but your last statement makes no sense. why is this a hard question for you whereas many others that had out of body experiences and near death experiences dont find it hard at all and say that yeah we will see them there, they give a very straight forward answer? in addition the last part of your statement is unbelievably strange and nonsensical, this life is not seconds and we do indeed notice that they are not around, very much so oh yes

[@IanKerry-ip6fx]

If something is consistently observed it's real. One story is anecdotal many stories is data

[@MotoMatt418]

Very fascinating. I wish the interview were longer.

[@Gigifrancetexas]

What about all the people who have almost died and had no such experience

[@hairbsb7908]

I'm terminally ill and really can't accept it.

[@benioren6120]

An NDE is basically a very profound out of body mystical experience, the cool thing is you don’t need to die or almost die to experience sublime transcendence

[@TheDopeboyz96]

I think it's a chemical reaction of a dying brain. That's why they are all different .

[@benioren6120]

@@TheDopeboyz96 hey cool thought Ryan ! What is the reason we are all different that u are alluding to ?

[@TheDopeboyz96]

@@benioren6120 well the fact that the brain doesn't die for an hour after the body does. How some people have their body's and some don't . Some people go to hell and Jesus said it's a real place. Others say Jesus said there's no hell. Some see colours . Some see family. Some see odd shapes and bright lights. Also some see black voids . Alot of people have said things that don't match with other stories. Doesn't make sense to me.

[@stevensteven3417]

@@TheDopeboyz96 Its a last final dream you have befor the lights go off forever. Of course you will feel all warm and fuzzy, because your brain is dieng and will release all kind of chemicals and hormones. You wont realise when its over because you will be dead, like watching a movie and just fall asleep.

[@paull9086]

Materialism can’t explain some very simple aspects (subjectivity, time, why I feel like me, why is there something rather than nothing, etc) of our society yet they are so eager to dismiss this.

[@thesoulguide27]

Truly beautiful. It's so nice to know I am not alone, and that the world start waking up to the fact that we are a soul that happens to be a body and not a body that may or may not have a soul. Our soul's main purpose is to reach ascension while we are still alive while passing all of life's ups and downs trials.

[@mimilong3817]

WOW! Very interesting perspective.

[@mimilong3817]

I agree with you.

[@marcelodelprete6525]

I read his book and it changed completely my perception of death and what happens afterwards

[@ethereal8731]

Seeing this makes me miss my son so bad. I just wish I could bring him back to me. 💔💔💔 I’m truly heartbroken no words can describe how painful this experience is. He was only 20 months old and didn’t deserve to die like that.

[@karmad4491]

I'm so sorry for your loss.

[@ethereal8731]

@@karmad4491 thank you

[@tomd720]

Thank you, very interesting !

[@DaiBei]

Finally. I hope when the majority of scientists start to believe this, our views on what life is and who we are will have a dramatic good change.

[@scottroberts9177]

Scientists don't "believe" anything. They know things through empirical evidence. Studying and asking questions. Double blind studies. You know, real stuff. Not wishful thinking!

[@trebor2539]

Cook

[@bigglesharrumpher4139]

Had too many anecdotal experiences from friends and relatives to be anything but very convinced this life is not the end of us, we go on - just in a different format. Like saving an excel file as text file - as an excel file, we cannot see any text files in the 'open' tab, but once we expand the search to 'All Files' - there is the text file. Psychic mediums and some people - and some small children seem to have the 'All files' search capability and see energies of deceased friends and relatives.

[@bmedhi1592]

The caption is misleading - there wasn't really any mention of "what science has to say" about it. Just anecdotal incidents

[@danb7601]

False, he noted that the experiences can't be explained by for instance oxygen deprivation or drugs, those discoveries were carefully made by scientists

[@bmedhi1592]

@@danb7601 a few seconds of the entire video to mention what science doesn't have to say about NDEs? Doesn't warrant the caption

[@danb7601]

The few seconds reresents succintly decades of research of which most people such as yourself are unaware, perfectly reasonable in this bite size format, incidentally it's a pretty small point in the grand scheme of things

[@bmedhi1592]

@@danb7601 you assume a lot. By your bizarre logic, everyone would need to ramble on for hours to make one salient ( 'negative')point and then pass it off as information. 🙄 You're grasping at straws. I hope it fulfils you somehow. Good day

[@danb7601]

@@bmedhi1592 Interesting cop out

[@stumpgrindingdirect2385]

i was outside my body, found it quite difficult to sync with the body again, when i finally did it took some determination to be able to breath and move.

[@laurenthomas9344]

This story is familiar. It was the first book I read after my mom passed. After. 🥰🦋🌈✨

[@powerofgod2232]

It's a sign they send us signs.Maybe they used me to tell this 🙏

[@PJGRAND]

Great video

[@rodneycarvalho6052]

Consciousness lives outside the brain. The brain is only a body part that will turn into dust over time. Physical life is for our spiritual evolution only and we all will return to the spirit realm. This we can learn from other's people NDEs.

[@matthewparker-t2q]

There is NO life after death: Scientist insists afterlife is IMPOSSIBLE THERE is NO life after death, according to one well respected physicist who claims humanity has to abandon all fanciful beliefs and focus on what the laws of the universe dictate. Sean Carroll, a cosmologist and physics professor at the California Institute of Technology, believes he has put the debate surrounding the afterlife to bed after extensively studying the laws of physics. Dr Carroll states “the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood” and everything happens within the realms of possibility. He says for there to be an afterlife, consciousness would need to be something that is entirely separated from our physical body - which it is not. Rather, consciousness at the very basic level is a series of atoms and electrons which essentially give us our mind. The laws of the universe do not allow these particles to operate after our physical demise, according to Dr Carroll He said: “Claims that some form of consciousness persists after our bodies die and decay into their constituent atoms face one huge, insuperable obstacle: the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood, and there's no way within those laws to allow for the information stored in our brains to persist after we die.” For his evidence, Dr Carroll points to the Quantum Field Theory (QFT). In simple terms, the QFT is the belief there is one field for each type of particle. For example, all the photons in the universe are on one level, and all the electrons too have their own field, and for every other type of particle too. Dr Carroll explains if life continued in some capacity after death, tests on the quantum field would have revealed "spirit particles" and "spirit forces”. Dr Carroll writes in the Scientific American: “If it's really nothing but atoms and the known forces, there is clearly no way for the soul to survive death. “Believing in life after death, to put it mildly, requires physics beyond the Standard Model. “Most importantly, we need some way for that ‘new physics’ to interact with the atoms that we do have. “Within QFT, there can't be a new collection of ‘spirit particles’ and ‘spirit forces’ that interact with our regular atoms, because we would have detected them in existing experiments.” Once this is accepted by all scientists, Dr Carroll says, then they can truly begin to understand how the human mind operated. He said: “There's no reason to be agnostic about ideas that are dramatically incompatible with everything we know about modern science. “Once we get over any reluctance to face reality on this issue, we can get down to the much more interesting questions of how human beings and consciousness really work.”

[@matthewparker-t2q]

There is NO life after death: Scientist insists afterlife is IMPOSSIBLE THERE is NO life after death, according to one well respected physicist who claims humanity has to abandon all fanciful beliefs and focus on what the laws of the universe dictate. Sean Carroll, a cosmologist and physics professor at the California Institute of Technology, believes he has put the debate surrounding the afterlife to bed after extensively studying the laws of physics. Dr Carroll states “the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood” and everything happens within the realms of possibility. He says for there to be an afterlife, consciousness would need to be something that is entirely separated from our physical body - which it is not. Rather, consciousness at the very basic level is a series of atoms and electrons which essentially give us our mind. The laws of the universe do not allow these particles to operate after our physical demise, according to Dr Carroll He said: “Claims that some form of consciousness persists after our bodies die and decay into their constituent atoms face one huge, insuperable obstacle: the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood, and there's no way within those laws to allow for the information stored in our brains to persist after we die.” For his evidence, Dr Carroll points to the Quantum Field Theory (QFT). In simple terms, the QFT is the belief there is one field for each type of particle. For example, all the photons in the universe are on one level, and all the electrons too have their own field, and for every other type of particle too. Dr Carroll explains if life continued in some capacity after death, tests on the quantum field would have revealed "spirit particles" and "spirit forces”. Dr Carroll writes in the Scientific American: “If it's really nothing but atoms and the known forces, there is clearly no way for the soul to survive death. “Believing in life after death, to put it mildly, requires physics beyond the Standard Model. “Most importantly, we need some way for that ‘new physics’ to interact with the atoms that we do have. “Within QFT, there can't be a new collection of ‘spirit particles’ and ‘spirit forces’ that interact with our regular atoms, because we would have detected them in existing experiments.” Once this is accepted by all scientists, Dr Carroll says, then they can truly begin to understand how the human mind operated. He said: “There's no reason to be agnostic about ideas that are dramatically incompatible with everything we know about modern science. “Once we get over any reluctance to face reality on this issue, we can get down to the much more interesting questions of how human beings and consciousness really work.”

[@ak8140]

My aunty passed away last year on may 1st 21 due to covid.I love and miss her so much. After that once my wife got headache and she had the experience that my aunty was sitting near her head and slowly touching her head with love. After that she was so scared and never stay alone at home. She is so sure that its not her imagination.

[@mimilong3817]

I had a near death experience and was miraculously healed by Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior. Prior to that I was a lifelong agnostic. Praise The Lord Jesus! He is so loving and so heavenly! Look at my avatar: it is a sign from above. Jesus made that for me in my early evening sky. It is a photograph that I took. 💫✨Believe in Miracles✨💫

[@miguelatkinson]

Healed from what specifically and how was it "miraculous"

[@davemarm]

Her roommate asked the nurse if the stain on the tie was blood and the nurse laughed and said no that must be spaghetti sauce. When the patient came to the nurse explained the humorous exchange with the patient. The patient was probably under lots of drugs and turned the nurses explanation into a first person encounter.