Are Phone Coolers for Gaming a SCAM?! Here's the Truth..

[@MaxTechOfficial]

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[@thegamingchannel1005]

this is happening because of adaptive refresh rate

[@IskandarM_]

I don’t think the inconsistent frame rate is related to heat. I think the game itself is just very cpu gpu demanding that it can’t maintain 120fps at certain places in the game. Maybe you should test again while the character is indoors.

[@pilotreg]

iphone isnt the best gaming phone.......

[@albeltra8]

If it could also charge I might give it a try.

[@bobjob6901]

Would it work on consoles?

[@rafaelsalazar2728]

I don't think the point of those coolers is to give a great boost in FPS. It's more about keeping temps lower in order to provide longer gaming sessions without throttling and by extension, increasing the phone's life expectancy.

[@thebarbiter4644]

THIS. And it's super irritating how the dude's testing on the fly for the sake of a quick video, and not something planned ahead of time and given more time, so you're only going to get even MORE "disappointing" results!

[@saywhat6585]

You don’t get it, less heat = less thermal throttling, thus the device will maintain a stable fps in any game ofc that depends on the device specs but that’s a different story

[@rafaelsalazar2728]

​@@saywhat6585 ... Friend, it's one thing to BOOST/AUGMENT fps (not the purpose of these coolers), and another to MAINTAIN fps at a stable count by controlling hardware temps. (Purpose of the coolers). To say they don't work when it clearly did the job it was intended (lower temps, stable and marginally better fps count, no throttling or screen dimming), is to be either dishonest or ignorant. Anyway, tell me more about how I "don't get" the concept of hardware thermals and the effectiveness of peltier cooling systems at small scale... Do tell.

[@Milo0610]

@@thebarbiter4644 i dont know but since using cooler im getting consistent FPS cuz heating affects the performance of the phone

[@JuniorLopez-qu1dy]

@@Milo0610I bought one recently n it’s coming in three days does it work really well?

[@kushalraj]

I wish Razor would have an extension of heat pipes or something near the chipset. So the attachment by MagSafe is still convenient and it has the ability to cool the chip better

[@yellowghostOfficial]

Maybe if they made a case for it

[@jonyythetryhrd]

Yes like the wings on the redmagic dual core cooler so the coolness could be distributed properly

[@Jack-sq9lo]

Might block your hand, so needs to be designed carefully

[@dr.franxx]

need the case for it, i think one that made with alu

[@Firojda-xs3rj]

That's called, pelter module

[@utubekullanicisi]

There's definitely a software optimization issue going on. Pascal's Wager also exhibited the same weird 120-60fps fluctuation behavior. That's not due to thermal throttling, it's an issue that has to do with the game and how it interacts with ProMotion.

[@ColonelLucario]

Are you sure ? Since 120 fps on games gonna heat a lot the phone and drain a lot of battery 🤔

[@robbyfn]

@@ColonelLucario thermal throttling causes fps to drop slowly as it gets hotter and hotter until it gets as hot as it will and level out. This is software because it drops from 120 to 60 and there is no in between.

[@svearike00]

same in pubg mobile playing 90 fps

[@naoton201]

@@robbyfn in mobile games frame rate is set to 120, 60 and 30 thats why when it can keep up at 120fps frame rate drop 1- 3 and then the game itself set to 60 instead of 90/100

[@kyleinigotorres6892]

In my ip13 pro when i play call of duty mobile iwth ultra feame rate(120fps option) sometimes its 120 but it goes down to 60

[@Retronyx]

The reason why it drops down to 60fps most of the time is the moment genshin load in new area and when you're moving around. 120fps is only when you're not in combat and also in a loaded area. The game is suppose to run at 60fps to begin with, so stable 120 will only burn the phone.

[@LongLiveBruh]

This is not exclusive to gens him impact it’s part of apple pro motion. It actives when you move the screen (which is when it counts) and lowers when your stationary

[@AntonioMaciaMartinez]

V-sync

[@evilsuhn9941]

the creator intentionally didn't test when the battle animation intense, because it will flat to 60 fps and that not good for the sponsored product

[@ikramullahkhan9856]

It doesn't happen w games​@@LongLiveBruh

[@정원우-z5j]

Just the prevention of display dimming alone is worth the price in my opinion.

[@ethanartofcook8433]

The frames per second (FPS) can be affected by your location in the game. If you want to check the consistency, you should run the same test at the same location where you ran the first test.

[@rocky-zx6kq]

What are you yapping about 💀

[@ethanartofcook8433]

@@rocky-zx6kq How about watching the video? It will provide clarity on the topic at hand. Engaging in baseless arguments is unproductive.

[@rocky-zx6kq]

@@ethanartofcook8433 I type this when I was late night partying and drunk af lmao, from what I remember I thought you said fps is affected in your IRL location, not in game location 💀

[@valconir1619]

The issue is just the placement that is not even near the chip, if it can be directly on top of it then it will be much more effective

[@fabrez]

yep. really a bummer

[@Youmum541]

There isn’t much of an improvement because obviously the cooler isn’t intact to the chip but instead to the battery

[@klanowicz]

I agree. For gaming the most important is how fast you can take heat directly from CPU. Cooling back of the phone wont really help because there are thermal limitations between CPU and heatspreader. It's like drinking water with a narrow straw. It doesn't matter how fast you swallow if water can't go through straw faster

[@SpeedyMike]

Possibly better battery life?

[@iamseanb17]

Exactly

[@kakashi99908]

@@SpeedyMike Actually if it gets too cold it can damage the battery

[@SpeedyMike]

@@kakashi99908 - Yeah but i think it's not that cold.

[@albedo0point39]

Would be useful on a car windscreen holder. I’ve had my phone overheat and shut off in sunny conditions.

[@christianaquino5230]

or you could get the ones that attach to the air vents and blast ur ac on while driving and ur phone definitely won't heat up while driving

[@Ventace1022]

Would it be possible for you to test it again with the universal clamp option? With that, you'd be able to move the cooler up the phone to where the CPU is, and it could have a massive difference since in this initial test, the magsafe option was completely off of the CPU area.

[@likediy1305]

kzbin.info answer this question on his video

[@RiderBlitz1.0]

Yes

[@shinychris0400]

Exactly

[@toytulog576]

yes I am waiting for this.. Hopefully he make another video where cpu area.

[@horbledorble5716]

unfortunately i dont think you can, since the chip is right next to the cameras, which would block the clamps :(

[@variamente6855]

I know they made a phone case but razer could make a case with a built in vapour chamber with a small fan at the back to draw the heat away from the phone

[@nrgamingtech2797]

I think this also has a benefit on the battery, as far as I know phone batteries degrade faster when under high temperatures

[@Roshan_420]

True which is why I want this and use it while charging or sitting in the sun watching youtube

[@attractionsmagazine]

Our phone overheats when shooting video in the hot Florida sun. Would this work for that? Will it work plugged into a battery backup?

[@Cxzy.ej.2010]

Yep 100%

[@haixinzheng9759]

The issue with this cooler is that it's been placed at the back of the battery not where the CPU is. It does help with the battery heating problem especially when playing games while charging. However, not going to help much with CPU heat.

[@Alex_vrs1995]

That's correct

[@chocotv9179]

Precisely! That's what I'm gonna say bro

[@ronweasley9001]

My only concern is the battery going bad due to long term overheating.

[@haixinzheng9759]

@@ronweasley9001 If you don't often playing intensive games on you phone while charging, this shouldn't be an issue.

[@ronweasley9001]

@@haixinzheng9759 I don't play video games on my phone while it's charging. But I'm using the phone cooler while gaming to ensure the temps don't reach above 36'.

[@dhrumilparekh8856]

You had to let the phone sit for a while before starting again with the cooler.

[@MaxTechOfficial]

I did :) it just got cut out of the video.

[@MikeTheHackerMTH]

So the fact is that if you start the test without the cooler when the phone is fresh of course it does good the first minutes, but if you put the cooler on when the phone is literally super hot you can't expect that much difference. You should try wait for the phone to cool down and then do the test again.

[@yougeeuh400]

I'd rather use a clip on cooler to position it nearer to the warmest zone. Also, there are better Peltier type coolers out there in the market which cools better than Razer.

[@nicolaswalsh]

They should design one that cools the whole back side and not just the MagSafe area, that would be “cool” no pun intended!

[@muham2654]

Some diy might help

[@Subbu-Alias-Subrahmanyam]

I have 15 pro max and that magsafe cooler my only doubt is the cooler is cooling a lot which causes moist inside phone i tested by placing on a pouch after a while inside the pouch moist has been formed so i request you to make a video using that cooler on a phone for 3 or 5 hours continuously and checking inside for moist

[@monoislive4320]

Whats the name of second game ?

[@v.yasn0o]

Can I use it with iPad Pro?

[@ahead5747]

Phone cooler is effective for players who play long hours. If you play game for 10 minutes or an hour, you don't need it at all. So, the test is only valid if you tested for more than one hour. One hour is still too low though. More than 2 hours test is better imo. Also, most 120 fps games has problems so testing on 60 fps games is better for now. In my experience, I don't feel lag when I play with cooler. Of course, your phone must be able to handle the graphic first. If not, even phone cooler can't help.

[@phoenix_hatcher]

Man this was a highly inaccurate video. It's a small cooler. All it does and IS SUPPOSED TO DO is keep the the battery and generally the phone somewhat cool. In the video, it's not even cooling the processor, but just the middle of the phone. In the cpu of a desktop, you cool the processor directly. That definitely does help with the performance. The main target of the cooler is to keep the battery healthy. I can say this because I use a phone cooler too (using one right at this moment of commenting). My previous phone dropped down to 77% health with intensive gaming sessions without the cooler for 2 years. And my current phone is at 94% with cooler on almost all the time, underwent similar gaming sessions as my previous phone, for nearly 2 years now. The numbers speak for themselves.

[@rockanroleropr3467]

Looks like someone forgot about the ProMotion feature of the display… that’s why the fps jumps from 60mhz to 120mhz

[@ArchangelMichael94]

I’m not a 100% sure if its just because of that, but i think that’s definitely a big part of it. There’s a couple times in Genshin where you can see the fps spike up as he turns the camera super quick

[@venator7889]

There's no option to turn it off. It only turns off when battery saver mode is on.

[@unlaikable]

I mean.. regardless of the performance boost, it definitely would help in terms of health. Dare I say it's going to be better for the battery too. Since heat is the main culprit of horrible battery health and charging in general. Edit: Should have made it clear to let the phone cool down before using the cooler and start another recording to simulate using the cooler from the start instead of after heating the whole device

[@archoi6767]

could you test in iphone 15 pro?

[@GraysonZimmer]

I can't imagine why you wouldn't be curious what would happen if you put it right on the CPU hot spot....

[@trustnoone270]

They need to increase the contact surface out of the MagSafe area and then it would be perfect

[@franciscoayon9470]

I think for best comparison you should use 2 different iPhone,1 without the cooler and 1 with,to see what it does and so from the beggining and not after the phone already got hot,wonder if it would be a different since the phone getting cooled from the beggining

[@whyurlapsmellsgood69]

I was thinking the same thing. The fan started at a disadvantage since it was placed on an already hot phone

[@lennynotkravitz]

Imma get this for my car, because 5G, (wired) CarPlay, Google Maps and Radarbot causes regular overheating issues forcing my iPhone to shut down for cooling.

[@superidolbrother1123]

it's worth it bro trust me im a mobile user who plays 6-8 hrs a day because they paid me to play and i use this for a straight 8 hrs

[@aldx1516]

It would make sense if the cooler was above the chipset not above the wireless charging pad...

[@sergiom7206]

Even if it doesnt cool the cpu as much a cooler battery will prolong its life and should allow for longer use per charge.

[@CubingOfficial]

Bro, you should have let the phone cool down and stay closed after that 10 minute gaming sesion, for atleast 10 minutes for real results, of course the results with the cooler were not that impresive, because the phone wwas already tired and hot after the first gaming sesion

[@Count.Zer0]

Does this phone have variable refresh rate? If not its switching btw 60 and 120fps due to Vsync. Makes sense

[@M3hirr]

You should test the MagSafe charger slapped on the cooler! That way! We’ll know if the MagSafe charger can actually charge at 15W for longer

[@stefanbachrodt533]

F-THAT! I'm sticking to my gel-packs, works great. Only issue is condensadtion

[@icey2213]

did he wait for the phone to cool down bfre the next test.....

[@Ahmad_Albassri]

Nooo

[@gramarlacsina4390]

Are phone coolers safe? I’m worried condensation can happen inside and damage the phone

[@girisantosh540]

Yes sir . I also thinking same.

[@girisantosh540]

Did you find any problems about this ? Please share your experience about this phone cooler please.🙏

[@fabrez]

it's a bummer that the main heat source was beside the cameras which the magsafe and all mobile phone coolers aren't placed

[@jeffrivera6]

is it safe for the internals of the phone? is it going to cause condensation inside the phone?

[@kaygerry]

why does this matter though? I read a science article that the human eye can only perceive between 30-60 fps on average.

[@nitrionixx]

yeah.. no. have you ever seen the difference between 60hz and 90hz, 120hz or beyond? it is MASSIVE

[@cheerful_crop_circle]

​​@@nitrionixx There is more noticeable difference between 60 hz and 144hz than 60hz and 90hz or 60hz and 120hz

[@DOGEELLL]

It doesnt matter at all phones have shit battery you cant play max graphic for longer than 2 3 hour its dogcrap Imagine spending 1000$ on a phone for gaming that cant handle heat power Pc and console will always be better its. Joke

[@cheerful_crop_circle]

@@DOGEELLL So PC , Playstation, Xbox , Nintendo are the way to go?

[@joewalters16]

Did you let the iPhone cool off before you started to play again with the cooler?

[@daniel_960_]

Best cooling would be a heat conducting case and the cooler. The upper left corner the frame is what gets the hottest.

[@ahmedalsadi0010]

yes true the mag safe area cold but doesnt reach to cpu its should be like a case that conduct the coldness to the cpu

[@svearike00]

they have one of these products

[@zahidl5061]

How is he so surprised that it’s 7 degrees colder

[@ExplosiveTowel88]

Conclusion: it works

[@PikaPower131313]

thanks bro, gonna get one to run genshin at 60fps on my 15 pro max

[@levi3753]

Does it cause moisture to the internal phone parts? If so, does the back cover prevent this if used? I use Google Translate 🙂💔

[@dieseldawg7132]

Shouldn’t unless there was already moisture inside your phone aka you dropped it in water

[@Desenrad]

I think people are looking at this product wrong. The most important thing its cooling is your battery. The more a batter heats up. the less it start to store electrons(lowering the total capacity its able to hold) Personally I'd get this just to protect my battery and prolong the costly replacement.

[@anafbinayub3703]

11.31 you should jeep the cooler right in the soc for peak performance

[@definitelynotnoreen]

can it damage your phone considering it produces moisture? planning to buy one

[@xunsungwar77]

That is what I am thinking too..

[@phineasphreak6158]

What about the power supply?? Wich one is the recomended?? The same iPhone charger ??

[@ManzaEN]

Hi, could you cover the screen recording audio bug on Samsung devices? If you're not aware on what it is, it's a bug where audio sound richer and fuller while screen recording in games and the video editor. And when you're not recording, audio sounds tinny and lacks low end frequencies. This seems to happen in non-media based apps. Every other tech channel I've contacted have either refused to cover this issue or simply ignored it.

[@Slayup_13]

Yeah right

[@lurkingarachnid7475]

the cooling plate needs to be bigger more surface area more cooling area

[@zgoaty9235]

What about GPU usage? Was it maxing out on the GPU constantly or was there headroom? With the 5 GPU cores, it should be about 45-50% faster than the A12Z chip but there’s still plenty of demanding mobile games when trying to hit 120 fps.

[@TheRealNightShot]

It is slower than the A12Z's GPU. But not by much.

[@motiondeep9989]

Nah, A12Z features a 8 core gpu.

[@meyersut6249]

what would be insane is if the magsafe could charge the cooler so u dont need the cable for the fan and you could just clip it on.

[@effiential9069]

That's so genius

[@christiancastro504]

The maverick of wall street I see

[@The.JZA.]

Did you let the phone cool between tests or did you just chuck the cooler on the iPhone when it was already hot?

[@rendimulyadi]

I'm using lot of cooler. If you want higher FPS dont play without cooler first. Using cooler from or before you start the game, So your phone doesn't throttle.

[@TheHalalStudent]

why are you putting at the back of the phone when the hot spot is not there?!

[@chrisak49]

Either way the iPhone runs these games better than my S21 Ultra and Pixel 6

[@yngvie659]

All right, so my question is, does the cooler have to be plugged in at all times?

[@yngvie659]

My guess is you should probably put the cooler on the hotspot of the phone which seems to be near the camera

[@masonm3454]

Why did you use the lowest graphics settings?

[@LDRep]

is condensation water not showing up inside phone?

[@steventandean610]

So can i game while charging with this cooler? Will it harm my battery that way?

[@Kepppo]

We should have a magsafe coolfan directly to the SoC instead of the battery, not that hard tbh, i would buy it 10/10 times

[@kidman2505]

It is that hard. Nobody is cutting their phone open with a Dremel for direct die contact. Learning what "directly to the soc" means isn't that hard tbh.

[@Kepppo]

I meant a cooler closer to the soc, not internally ahahaha, just above but higher close to the right of the camera@@kidman2505

[@ThibautMahringer]

​@@kidman2505 You can't have die contact on an iPhone, their chips is stuck between both layers of PCB lol and even the SE, which have a single layer PCB, the chip is facing the screen. Dumb thermal designs

[@Lordjflaco0513]

Is the phone cooler portable ? Can u used it with a portable charger

[@rukitorin1998]

There is this thing called iphone cooler plate on the market right now to evenly spread the cooling from a magsafe cooler. It's basically just a metal piece that you stick to the back of your phone.

[@danielbozev6942]

how can i check the temperature like you with another phone ?

[@mohsindangor5494]

The iPhone 13 is not close and never was best gaming phone

[@puwhppi]

ong 🤣

[@DOGEELLL]

Its all the same lmao stop copium All the phone are garbage in power performance and battery You cant 4k record and play max graphics bec they are all dogcrapthat heat in seconds Get a pc ffs !

[@pilotharibo]

It is unavailable in whole eu are they not producing it anymore?

[@RayTheVideoGuy]

Tough to tell in the video, but how noticeable was the difference of the 60-120?

[@MaxTechOfficial]

I could definitely tell, but it wasn't annoying or a bad experience when it dropped down to 60.

[@colindoyle9876]

Looking for a non-battery-cooker case, any real concern or tests?

[@RafaelMeneses.]

Why my razer cooling keep fell off from my iPhone 11 Pro Max ? It’s like magnetic no works.

[@DemetriPanici]

I've been working under the assumption that coolers for phones and laptops were useless for a while

[@paulschneller9766]

What are you using to show the temperature map?

[@Kill5tep]

But im lazy to open my Rhinoshield case. Is it ok to use this accessory with case?

[@SwayzeDaGhost]

Will this work with the new iPhone 14 being Titanium?

[@valor1630]

No condensation problems?

[@balubalaji9956]

2:35 bent cable ending shows a lot about his gaming habits

[@SkySky-uj1fk]

Hey, why did you stop the recording at different times ?

[@MehdiRajhi-w4i]

coolers are designed for gaming phones that have good heat dissipation and designed to have the possibility to use external cooler...for regular phones or non gaming phones : its dangerous to put a cooler it can damage the phone overtime...because overheat of the phone and the cooler to reduce it combined create a mix between cold air and heat and can create water inside the phone...even if the phone is sealed IP68 the water can be created from inside directly, it have high probability to damage the phone not like gaming phones with heat dissipation technics in the design.

[@randomlyashes395]

Black shark magsafe cooler will the same result?

[@incurab1e]

People pay for 120fps but still get 60fps half the time. What’s the point in getting iPhone 13 pros?

[@TheSzilard77]

Work with case? A huge case?

[@ブラット_THGOGS24U_AoV]

Mobile cooler on 14 pro max or 13 pro max and 12 pro max

[@riikato]

*Maybe have a phone cooler design that has a more convenient shape wherein we can place the cooler directly on top of the processor to maximize its effectiveness.*

[@Samschwab10]

The phone uses 120 only when necessary, it auto fluctuates to use the optimal number for performance and/or battery

[@RocketRaven]

if you had magsafe on an all aluminium or stainless steel case, would it be possible to use the case as a big heatsink with the razer cooler?

[@danutstancu611]

What thermal camera are you using!? Thanks!

[@teme9333]

can you test if this helps with charging?

[@WillEDC]

These are useful for flying drone in high heat and sun. Causes display dimming and also app errors Actually these things are like 15 bucks. I wouldn’t pay 60

[@jamesvillas428]

how many watts does this phone cooler consume?

[@thenamesirr6579]

Dose it works with magsafe case?

[@rjvehemente1738]

Planing to buy.. is it safe in the long run?

[@progputest9829]

bru even with a good pc runs genshin impat at max setting 120fps is not a peace of cake

[@BluePalmetto]

I'm thinking of getting one since I do DoorDash and Uber and I always have the screen and GPS running and my device gets pretty hot.

[@qasimrahmaan]

Can we use this with iPads??

[@SuperXayahJinx]

idk why thry dont case nwith fan and cooling sistem for specific phone

[@denulwelianga9686]

They might need to make dedicated coolers that has a copper arms that is placed directly on top of the SoC.

[@28_babyshark]

Are you letting the phone cool down to normal temperature between test? Or are you just slapping on the cooler after heating up the phone after the first test? The phone's not going to stay at 120 hz for long if it's already heated up, then rapidly cooling the phone down.

[@MaxTechOfficial]

Yes of course I am

[@tamir4483]

Why u doing it while charging?