*ARE RIM BRAKES LIGHTER?!* (ULTRA RARE) 2022 PINARELLO DOGMA F

[@GCPerformance18]

if you had the choice between rim brake or disc brake on this exact model which one would you choose?? and dont say neither.......

[@LouieBaLLz]

I have disc brakes on my Dogma F. No Princeton wheels though.

[@ChrisM-gf8ph]

Rim brake version

[@juanfersan]

rim in florida; disc in ny state

[@ChrisM-gf8ph]

@@juanfersan well I’m in south Florida. Apart from my MTB. I even have gravel bikes on rim brake!

[@dragonnetx]

Hydraulic disc for life

[@litchips]

This is the last manual transmission air cooled Porsche of bikes.

[@DaveCM]

Almost. If it had mechanical shifting also, it would be.

[@pigeonpoo1823]

I was thinking, Porsche sells a sh1t ton of lardy complicated, compromised, pretend sporty Cayennes and macans to people who don't know any better or care beyond the badge. But it gives Porsche the funds to develop the GT3 in tiny numbers for us to drool over

[@Alex-md6bu]

What exactly is it you mean by that? The last bike that you can call a throwback to what some considered the "golden ages" while Simultaneously being behind in technology and not as nice to ride?

[@litchips]

@@Alex-md6bu I haven't ridden that particular bike, so I don't know. But generally, rim brake bikes ride nicer, since fork legs and front wheel don't have to be beefed up to handle braking loads at the hub.

[@Alex-md6bu]

@@litchips I will only agree with that on the premise that the brand has just renforced a standard fork leg to take the braking load, when designed from day 1 to take the load you can have both the compliance and strength, breaking load and structural stiffness are not hand in hand you can build one without the other if you do it correctly

[@TJS71]

I'm still a rim brake guy and I'm waiting to hear back from a dealer on the same frame (plutonium flash) in size 56. I'm sure it will be at least 6 months before I see it.

[@durianriders]

GC saves me SO much money!! He proves again and again why the older bikes are so much better. My F8 rim brake line is proper and is 6.8kg with pedals. It is like they did the brake line on tihs to purposely punish rim brakers.

[@GCPerformance18]

Hahaha I miss the old comments back in the days, good to Hear from you!!

[@f1fanatic710]

One of the best examples of Italian beauty. Love the rim version.

[@GCPerformance18]

they killed it

[@cptnfitness8490]

I believe direct mount type rim brakes are best brake system for road bikes. I really regret that I didn’t buy Canyon Aeroad rim brake model because my job had been hardly hit by both the new cold war to China and the Corona pandemic.

[@jacdogma1316]

I was trying to buy a Canyon Ultimate with rim brakes - which weighed in at 7.0kg, cost £2400 - they relaunched it with DISC brakes, weight 8.0kg, cost £3200 - DUH Very Stupid 'update' - now 34% more expensive and 1.0 kg heavier !! Needless to say I did not buy the update disc and their proposal email got a short but rude rejection. This is the real reason disc brakes are being put on all updates - the bike industry is using the disc brake system to justify a 30% to 40% premium over rim version and people are buying this crap

[@Tazangamoz]

Rim brake for sure. 💯

[@finnmcguire2134]

The dogma is definitely not the lightest bike in the world but you just cannot beat the way that thing looks, especially with the rim brakes I think it looks even better.

[@jacdogma1316]

Dogma might not be the lightest bike but it is the smoothest most comfortable ride with amazing sharp handling, it beats difficult corners every time, no contest.

[@NeedforspeedRS]

Rim brake for life 🙌🏻

[@m4rc10]

Rim brakes for ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@knedragon]

Just finished my 54 Pluto Rim brake . THM cranks , Dura Ace 9150 , Cane Creek , Zipp 404 NSW's , hit the scales at 14.08 lbs w/pedals , cages and mount . Brakes are insane , no need for disc.

[@GCPerformance18]

holy shit that bike sounds insanely light and expensive!!!! send me a pic I wanna see lol

[@knedragon]

@@GCPerformance18 just did a little springtime make over ( so i could eat ) 5.68 kg / 12.53 lbs :-)

[@alexjohnson6462]

Direct Mount is something that should have gained popularity a lot sooner (I mean DM in its modern form. I know cantilever and similar have been around for a very long time). If it did, maybe the whole trajectory of the rim versus disc decision might have went down differently. Unfortunately, direct mount really did not start to get popular on new models until disc had already started to take a foothold, and by then it was kind of too late. If people could have seen twenty years ago how much nicer it was over the old single pivot rim brakes, maybe thats the direction the industry should have went. Its the best middle ground solution.

[@TheCountrySteve]

The main reason for the push towards discs was that they work better with carbon rims though. DM calipers don't stop the problem of rim wear and overheating/delamination. That said, I do agree that it's a great system from a braking point of view

[@alexjohnson6462]

I concur. Carbon rims seem like the primary driving force toward adopting rim brakes. The two primary issues being poor braking of carbon versus alloy, as well as overheating of the brake track which can lead to rim blow out along the clincher and tubeless bead in cases where the rim gets way overheated and the epoxy softens from sustained downhill braking. Thats rare in practice, but its been shown that its easy to do in 'lab' tests. There's a good video of a manufacturer who leaves the brakes on as they test various carbon rims, and pretty much every clincher fails catastrophically. I switched to tubular carbon rims and it alleviates the most serious of those two problems as tubulars are virtually impossibke to blow out from overheating, however the braking still kind of sucks on carbon. Experimenting with different carbon pads and different carbon braje tracks (e.g. carbon that gas grooves cut into it, etc...) helps a bit, but rim brake advances on carbon rims are ever really going to beat disc. Still, I likd the tubulars rims because I know they wont fail from riding the brakes going downhill.

[@TheCountrySteve]

@@alexjohnson6462 I’ll be tempted by tubs once I have a team car following me. Until then, not so much

[@portland675]

@@alexjohnson6462 tubulars are known to overheat and roll off the rim. It’s what ended Joseba belokis career. Not nearly as common as brake track delaminating of course.

[@jacdogma1316]

@@alexjohnson6462 I have had one blow out while descending a mountain pass in Scotland - it was a clincher on a Mavic alloy, the blow out was slow and left me with good control to come to a stop; no spectacular loss of control. My opinion is that while many people want to go carbon wheels, carbon simply isn't a great material for wheels - it is great for frames and making aeroplanes etc but it does not tolerate heat at all well as we know it tends to de-laminate; also the epoxy isn't that light so the lightest stiffest and best value still comes from alloy wheels, lighter, stiffer and faster. Also substantially less pricey. Try Ksyrium Pro Exalith with Direct mount braking - amazing.

[@simonratcliffe688]

HI - I have a UK Dogma F with rim brakes with ee brakes. Very rare in the UK - also initially spec'd it with one- by - but have since converted back to two-by due gearing didn't work for my type of riding. In one-by weighed 6.7KG.

[@GCPerformance18]

Thanks for sharing!!! sounds like a nice build

[@ankjaers]

I would still go for the rim brake version. I dont have anything against disc brakes. I just dont see the need for more brake power when the tires are the limiting factor. And since disc brakes for someone who do all their work on the bike. Its just making things more complicated than it needs to be.

[@GCPerformance18]

the rear rim brake felt like booty, because of all the integrated routing not a fan to be honest, would take disc over it

[@ankjaers]

@@GCPerformance18 Probably just a cheap cable used? You can get cables made for this

[@vittoriochiu8181]

Biased, but this is my favourite looking bike I’ve seen in a long while ~ rims just look right on a small frame, skinny tire competition bike

[@Benie1984]

Collector's item, very retro, even nostalgic with the rim breaks.

[@kelvingrover4043]

Rim brakes rule 2022

[@nannasfeet]

Hey GC , I was in Pinarello London the other day looking to buy the rim version and I can tell you that both rim brake frames I tried the rear brake felt very very smooth , almost like it was not even ran internally . It was so smooth and it was Dura Ace . Just putting that out there as it definitely didn’t feel crap .

[@Havanafly]

Lovely bike. Just like my F12 with rim brakes

[@Ih8GoogleandApple]

Everything about this bike is an unexpected surprise regarding wheels and brakes. If the headstack was lower it would look killer

[@GCPerformance18]

yea I knwo the genetlemen who rides it just rides for ocmfort and for the love of the sport he just wants to be comfortable

[@vukgrujic2957]

this is not a debate...rims are always lighter...keep in mind whole bike needs to have more carbon for stronger forks, more wires on wheels, heavier hubs etc

[@GCPerformance18]

Yea I mean disc brakes are heavier

[@ilgour]

Save rim brake imo, disc brake has it place in the market, but so does rim brake. Its stupid that the industry want us to deep throat their one size fit all disc brake solution.

[@waynosfotos]

Here here

[@87togabito]

Clearly, no new consumers cares about rim brakes. Plus, why would I want to see rim brakes when it just means money being wasted on R&D on a dying system? Money is better spent innovating on disc brake systems, than trying to build two bikes for two different systems. But, to be honest it doesn’t really matter to me. The industry already has shown that its moving towards no longer bothering to accommodate for rim brakes. So I’m not concerned that my next bike purchase will be held back by an industry’s need to cater to rim brakes.

[@Onigure]

It's so easy to work on rim brakes, also so inexpensive, not good for companies who want to make money.

[@Onigure]

The only instance I'd buy a disc brake bike is for my girlfriend. She has tiny hands and little arm strength for breaking in long descents. She tried a hydraulic disc brake bike and it was a game-changer in her words.

[@87togabito]

Lol the excuses I hear about from rim brake adherents about its superiority. Lighter? What’s cycling supposed to be? Weight lifting championship? Easier to maintain? For Christ sake why does that concern you when you can just leave it to the professionals. But that said, I do agree that rim brake has its place in the industry; where the trash bin is.

[@danc1829]

Rim brakes for me, never had a need for discs.

[@GCPerformance18]

once you go disc you wont go abck

[@danc1829]

@@GCPerformance18 I did 😜 I had a tcr disc model and went back to rim brakes 😂

[@davidcummings7735]

@@GCPerformance18 I started on rim brakes, changed to hydro disc in 2018, now gone back to rim brakes on a 2012 Cannondale Evo Hi-mod 6.4kg, best bike I've ridden or owned. ( Good enough for Sagan good enough for me!).

[@FaiscaaaH]

And a bike that costs 14000€ and has the weight of 7.2 kg ?? LOOOOOOL I will stay with my Pinarello Dogma Think 2 65.1 with 6.6 kg ;)

[@JayLato]

5:52 man I love being a turtle.

[@GCPerformance18]

lmao what

[@MotoLopez1k]

Of course they are 💯! Only way to make disk lighter is to compromise frame build. Today rim brake bikes aren’t built like they used to. They are also specked differently. Not only that…Shimano new electronic group was purposefully designed weightier than the disc brake version🤔…and many other arguments.

[@GCPerformance18]

I mean this rim brake to me the way it was ran for the rear brake felt like booty compared to a disc obvi, I would prefer from a consumer stand point a disc break for my personal bike

[@87togabito]

Or maybe rim brakes have always been the crapier system to begin with, just that disc brake developmental have surpassed it in both weight and performance. Which is kind of telling of how crap a system rim brakes are; it’s had a 4 decade developmental head start in road cycling, only to be overtaken by disc which is still in its infancy. Lol rim brakes are crap. Just accept it and move on. Or move to buying your future replacement parts from the garbage bin.

[@MotoLopez1k]

@@87togabito not really. Sometimes simpler is better….

[@portland675]

@@87togabito thank you!

[@portland675]

@@MotoLopez1k rim brakes aren’t simpler, they’re just cheaper

[@marcinstyle85]

On Giant propel the design and setup rim brake is much smarter ,they should do similar on this bike

[@GCPerformance18]

I do not like the propel

[@adriannavarro6834]

Giant yuck

[@mrjekpogi31]

this bike can fly on climbs..just wow what a beauty

[@lexus2631]

Almost there !!! Just missing the Bora carbon Wheels !!! Almost !!the Italian Dream bike !!!

[@GCPerformance18]

yea I knwo bora wto ftw that bike would be so much money lol

[@sbsb4995]

Fantastic to see rim brakes bicycle. Disc brakes ruined the look, the weight and the aerodynamic of the bicycles. Disc brakes system is the biggest marketing gimmick in the history of bicycles.

[@GCPerformance18]

yea we do not see them that often but they look so nice

[@portland675]

Disc brakes are one of the best things to ever happen to bicycles.

[@jacdogma1316]

Agree big scam - 34% premium on the disc versions, they are heavier, the discs rub, brakes tend to lock and skid, just not safe - expensive crap, gimmick.

[@highfived]

Rim brake lives matter ❤️

[@sjmclean0]

Rim brake for me. Never had a situation where my direct mount's aren't powerful for. They also look considerably better than disks.

[@GCPerformance18]

Not gonna lie, after me only working on rim brakes for a couple years now. I prefer the disc look

[@drym3943]

Rim are so much better. I brake once a ride and it is just to adjuste to the speed of the rider in front of me. So yeah rim for me.

[@jacdogma1316]

Spectacular bike - the best best best bike on the planet. RIM Brakes all the way, will never buy a disc bike.!! (I have an F10 RIM, flatly refuse to buy anything DISC, DISC is a 4 letter word, if anyone thinks disc brakes are a safety upgrade please have a careful look at Mattie Mohoric's crash in the 2021 Giro - DISCs are dumb and dangerous)

[@GCPerformance18]

maybe one day companies will release rim brakes again

[@FortunaCzNam]

@@GCPerformance18 The bicycle industry does this - in the 80s they were fitting hub brakes, then in the 90s there were oval chain rings (Froome still uses these), now we have discs, it is a gimmick used to attract 34% premium, sooner or later cyclists will figure out that disc bikes are 1.0kg heavier, have asymmetric frame stiffness leading to asymmetric power transmission and are unsafe - you are much more likely to lock up your front brake and go over the handlebars or skid and fall in the wet or break the front fork. Cyclists will eventually figure it out. There is a real hussle at the bike shop when you question them pushing discs, it's bull sh#t

[@timtaylor9590]

that rear brake cable routing is ridiculous just make it go from the bars to the top tube.

[@Gimmiesandtipped]

On a Dogma, I’d go rim as it’s a heavier frame.

[@GCPerformance18]

its only a little heavier and too be hoenst, I hated how the rim brakes felt when squeezing brakes they felt like booty

[@waynosfotos]

From what I heard, Pino rim, order only

[@GCPerformance18]

yea this guy has some serious connections with pinarello

[@luigibirillo6629]

@@GCPerformance18 sounds like he's a made man

[@jacdogma1316]

You obviously know nothing about buying a Pinarello Dogma - when you go to the Pinarello store you do not buy a bike off the shelf. They measure you up and agree a frame size - you can try out bikes on a turbo or have a bike fit session, you are then offered a choice of frames and can have a custom paint job if you want it, you can specify whatever group set you want, the braking system you want and you can take their options for wheels or get your own choice - the bike is built entirely to your specification as you want it - it is a custom build to your spec entirely - this is what you get for spending that much money and this is why Pinarello is in a class of it's own - it is your bike built your way to your spec. (That was my experience when I bought an F10 - these are the best bikes in the world because they are tailor made for their owner).

[@wasupwitdat1mofiki94]

I would dump those carbon wheels and mount a set of Shamal Mille wheels from a couple of years ago if I could get my hands on a set. Update: I just checked the Campagnolo website and they still have the Shamal's which is actually called Ultra now. They only weigh 1450g. I know from owning the Mille these wheels are the best I've ever used.

[@GCPerformance18]

yea those wheels should be lighter

[@TheCountrySteve]

It would look a lot better with a rear hub actually designed for rim brakes. That butchered disc brake hub looks awful

[@GCPerformance18]

yea I knwo right, looks so weird

[@portland675]

It’s not a disc hub. The flanges and spacing would be in the wrong place if it were disc. There’s no rotor attachment and it’s got a different axle.

[@TheCountrySteve]

@@portland675 In that case, it’s just ugly

[@eikm31]

looks amazing!!!!

[@GCPerformance18]

agreed!!! it looked bad ass

[@marcuswong1797]

dam that is heavy. didn't know that campy eps is that much heavier than dura ace di2. what the weight on those wheels? Wonder why the owner didn't get campy wheels to finish off this pure italian perfection

[@bigmikeshooter]

Rim brakes are alive. Greetings from Greece GC...

[@kohpj7770]

White industries hub is a little bit heavy it will be lighter if replace with carbon ti

[@Agiyi]

The whole twist and bend of the cables... That was not a "why hydro discs are better/easier to work with" argument, that was a "internal cables are worse" argument. Plus, you proposed this argument while showing this bike where it literally does what you're saying that can't be done. It didn't make any sense.

[@GCPerformance18]

in terms of how the rear brake felt, like you had no rear brake at all, just felt like moosh, it can be done but does not work the way it should

[@Agiyi]

@@GCPerformance18 that's not what you said in the video. 2:55 you said that feel is good for a rim brake

[@phildub13]

Where can I find those bottle cages? I would love them on my F.

[@GCPerformance18]

I do not know I am sorry

[@joseluisredondogarcia5244]

Almost no rim brake clearance at 4:24 , those pads will rub as soon as you go out of the saddle. 💥

[@GCPerformance18]

lmao I know that is the downside to rim brake, the clearance tolerances suck

[@durianriders]

look how little disc pad clearance you have on your road disc bike bro. Now you understand why us power riders prefer rim as there is zero rub compared to road disc.

[@danielschinagl5960]

Dogma F with rim brake in pink

[@ravenjadepalacay1821]

Sheesh that's hot🔥🔥🔥

[@SuperTaylor68]

So the rim brake weighs exactly the same as the disc? Did I get that right looking at your previous disc video? Specs looked it exactly the same 🧐

[@GCPerformance18]

yep for this model, this is the weight of it, now this one had a power meter and also garmin mount

[@retroonhisbikes]

Wow those wheels are expensive. Whats the cost to replace the braking surface?

[@GCPerformance18]

lmao I have no idea, i am not familiar with rim brake bikes anymore, I am a noob

[@waynosfotos]

If you only ride in the dry, they last for the life of the bike

[@retroonhisbikes]

@@waynosfotos thats me. Dont that bad then

[@87togabito]

@@waynosfotos which is probably a day since you’d toss it away after a single ride after realising how crap it is compared to its disc brake variant.

[@luigibirillo6629]

@@87togabito Hahahahaha that's so funny 😅 you make me LOL

[@verbinnenben]

My size 54 tarmac sl6 pro with Ultegra weighs like the same with pedals, bottle cages and mount wtf (1390g wheels and latex inner tubes tough).

[@guiazevedoleite]

Amazing!

[@basedgodstrugglin]

Campag is like “jerly” if you ask DJ Khaled

[@nuttynut722]

the amount of spacer scream dentist

[@rudyelizondo1935]

Cool bike bro

[@GCPerformance18]

I love it

[@museves]

Almost got myself a dogma f in rim brake, until i cant find a decent wheelset for it

[@GCPerformance18]

yea that is the toiugh part too but lok at priceton they make all there wheels in rim brake

[@jacdogma1316]

@@GCPerformance18 Ksyrium Pro Exalith - amazing light with exceptional braking, cost a third of what carbon wheels cost ........ That is what I have on my F10 - it works great.

[@SupercarAlex150]

What bike stand is it?

[@milutinbegovic-orjenskigorstak]

Ooops I wanna drive this bike few kilometers 😕 no chance boy ha ha ha 😂

[@GCPerformance18]

it is a dream too look at

[@alizfe1]

with rim brakes, it is more beautifull

[@GCPerformance18]

this biek just looks rare in rim brake i like it, reminds me of a unicorn

[@e3dave744]

Those wheels 🥰

[@ozgurinsan]

pinarello frames are on the heavier side. spacers under the stem are very ugly.

[@waynosfotos]

Campy Red carbon pads are the ones i loVe. Not sure if the yellow pads are campy, can you comfirm? Cheers GC #savetherimbrake what a bike!

[@am7jeremy]

Those are SwissStop RacePros I believe.

[@elvisderblasehase9522]

Could be swissstop yellow prince

[@GCPerformance18]

yellow pads are swissstop lol but yes all campy eveyrhitng

[@jivano]

What size handlebars and stem?

[@sagcrossroad]

its way heavier than I thought...

[@harshvardhansharma2231]

campagnolo groupset is a bit heavier than shimano. weight could also be shed by slamming that bar and stem.

[@sagcrossroad]

@@harshvardhansharma2231He posted the disc brake version and its the same weight. I would thought the disc brake version would be around 6.8

[@FattyOn2Wheels]

He was very lucky and rich

[@GCPerformance18]

hahahahahha he is a top dog for sure

[@XFly170]

JE-WE-LLERY… gotta say it slow for it to come out right. I know, I’m the same…😁

[@NewPolishScientist]

Beautiful

[@GCPerformance18]

this one bike for sure is underated I miss seeing this highend modern bike with old school brakes

[@debelifratar]

Wait a minute? They made 142mm rear spacing and pushed rim brake wheel inside it using a spacer?

[@GCPerformance18]

lmao no just that wheel was made with no center lock ring and they just finished it flat

[@luigibirillo6629]

@@GCPerformance18 So the left hub flange is unneccessarily close to the center of the hub? Or did they use the space where there is no disc?

[@argeelearner3978]

Make Rim Brakes Great Again!!!!!!!!!!

[@bendardania]

I don’t get it how did it come to 7.1… I thought all rim brake bikes are -6.8…. Lol. Unless you put tubulars with some super light Pirelli’s or Tufo’s at this point disc b b with high end components are almost catching up to rim b b.

[@am7jeremy]

It's a heavy aero frameset/fork/seatpost that's why.

[@simonwarmer8777]

It’s a shame it’s a unicorn!

[@GCPerformance18]

it is very hard to find

[@dionisiuskusuma1462]

Campy Super Record EPS 12 has no 11-28 casette. It's either 11-29 or 11-32 casette

[@waynosfotos]

Ah no, you can use the 11-34 chorus cassette. I have 12 speed record and have this fitted.

[@am7jeremy]

Super Record comes 11-34t as well.

[@Felix74566]

2023 - still on rim brakes!

[@GCPerformance18]

yes the man is

[@odiesdad01]

First!! Awesome bike.

[@dsonyay]

Rim. Always rim. Disc is too heavy, more maintenance.

[@timtaylor9590]

almost my size

[@endeavour5316]

Dammm haven’t seen a rim brake F yet Id still go for disc brake though

[@yeungline]

That many spacers...🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️

[@Bradbajc]

Maybe it hasnt been cut down yet?? haha

[@markwright8030]

NICE 👍👍👍👍👍🚴‍♂️👌

[@GCPerformance18]

Thanks ✌

[@cbb3062]

Did you weight it

[@GCPerformance18]

yea at the beginnning of the video

[@cbb3062]

@GC Performance oh lol sorry I skipped the first minute and couldn't find it 🤣

[@dtroxx007]

Rare, but ugly :). Disc brake and intergrated cables ftw.

[@GCPerformance18]

yea I think we are so use to seeing these new bikes with disc brakes that our taste for bikes now becomes the norm to see bikes with disc brake this bike with rim brakes through me off for a little

[@Ghost12561]

Rim brake user here for 20 years, watching rim brake bike nowadays look so outdated

[@GCPerformance18]

I knjow right?!?!?! thats what I jsut said ot someone else I got so use to only seeing disc brake that it now became the norm to be and this through me off for a little

[@golfchvse]

i feel like thats not THAT light, all the weight wennies in here very silent. HAHA disc ftw. You can keep your horse and carriage.

[@GCPerformance18]

lmao yea I knwo right and for sure, me as a consumer i would take the advantages of disc for that minimal weight advantage

[@golfchvse]

@@GCPerformance18 absolutely. I wonder if rim brake riders still mow their lawns with a scythe.

[@87togabito]

@@golfchvse Given how DIY and budget seems to be one of the biggest reasons they tout for rims, I doubt most of them have a lawn, or even a house, for that matter

[@golfchvse]

@@87togabito lol fr.

[@acenday1437]

I’m so happy mtb isn’t like this !!!

[@FaiscaaaH]

Pinarello are getting uglier every year ....

[@GCPerformance18]

I really do like the look of this dogma f but style is subjective so it is not for everyone

[@charliedillon1400]

Pinarellos are ugly like Lamborghinis. They both try so hard to look cool they end up looking silly. Like a stripper with glitter on her tits.

[@portland675]

Sure, a lot of rim brake bikes are lighter. But who cares? Weight does not equate performance unless you’re doing a hill climb.

[@durianriders]

so for 100 years cyclists were taught that weight matters and now you say that it doesnt unless going up a hill. So why is your bike made of carbon then and why do you use such lightweight parts when sora shifts just as good but weighs more?

[@portland675]

@@durianriders no one respects your opinions. You’re a hack. Probably the single worst source of cycling advice on the internet. We all know weight is mostly irrelevant and was always marketing BS. I’ve got multiple hill climb titles to my name, all done on a 17lb bike, because that’s all I could afford when I was younger. At 175lb body weight no less. If you don’t understand the difference between sora and ultegra, you’re dumber than I gave you credit for.

[@kpizzle1985]

This really is not a light bike

[@GCPerformance18]

nope it is not

[@kpizzle1985]

@@GCPerformance18 my size 56 Strada Due, with 56mm wheels and Ultegra Di2 weighs 7.08kg without pedals and is way less than half the price 😱

[@Tommmmmmmmmmmm]

rim brakes look so messy and dated now. kinda ruins the aesthetics of the bike too. not to mention they’re vastly inferior to disc brakes.

[@matkrek]

weird take aha, this is a first

[@ilgour]

outdated, not aesthetics and vastly inferior...just lol. Is that fake news or you beleive yourself?

[@matkrek]

@@ilgour the guy is justifying is heavier bike to himself when the pros had zero issues with rim brakes. But surprise surprise, the pros are annoyed by slower wheel changes and some instances of 'lock up'

[@waynosfotos]

Nope. Aesthetics is in the eye of the beholder. I personally don't like the look of the modern dropped seat stays and disc brake cable integration. As to being inferior. Done a number of vids on this. Disc will stop you no quicker, and are less aero. The only advantage is in the wet, and are you going to ride this bike in the rain?

[@danc1829]

someone watches too much of GCN 😂

[@silver_c1oud]

Rim brake? Garbage. Disk is way better. i dont care about weight weenie, or whatsoever benefits of rimbrake. Rimbrake is Trash, period.

[@GCPerformance18]

agreed

[@87togabito]

This is a bike that you could leave unchained outside a cafe and not worry, for the rim brakes on it makes it worthless even to a thief.

[@GCPerformance18]

hahahhahaha fucking love it