if you had the choice between rim brake or disc brake on this exact model which one would you choose?? and dont say neither.......
@LouieBaLLz2 жыл бұрын
I have disc brakes on my Dogma F. No Princeton wheels though.
@ChrisM-gf8ph2 жыл бұрын
Rim brake version
@juanfersan2 жыл бұрын
rim in florida; disc in ny state
@ChrisM-gf8ph2 жыл бұрын
@@juanfersan well I’m in south Florida. Apart from my MTB. I even have gravel bikes on rim brake!
@dragonnetx2 жыл бұрын
Hydraulic disc for life
@litchips2 жыл бұрын
This is the last manual transmission air cooled Porsche of bikes.
@DaveCM2 жыл бұрын
Almost. If it had mechanical shifting also, it would be.
@pigeonpoo18232 жыл бұрын
I was thinking, Porsche sells a sh1t ton of lardy complicated, compromised, pretend sporty Cayennes and macans to people who don't know any better or care beyond the badge. But it gives Porsche the funds to develop the GT3 in tiny numbers for us to drool over
@Alex-md6bu2 жыл бұрын
What exactly is it you mean by that? The last bike that you can call a throwback to what some considered the "golden ages" while Simultaneously being behind in technology and not as nice to ride?
@litchips2 жыл бұрын
@@Alex-md6bu I haven't ridden that particular bike, so I don't know. But generally, rim brake bikes ride nicer, since fork legs and front wheel don't have to be beefed up to handle braking loads at the hub.
@Alex-md6bu2 жыл бұрын
@@litchips I will only agree with that on the premise that the brand has just renforced a standard fork leg to take the braking load, when designed from day 1 to take the load you can have both the compliance and strength, breaking load and structural stiffness are not hand in hand you can build one without the other if you do it correctly
@TJS712 жыл бұрын
I'm still a rim brake guy and I'm waiting to hear back from a dealer on the same frame (plutonium flash) in size 56. I'm sure it will be at least 6 months before I see it.
@durianriders2 жыл бұрын
GC saves me SO much money!! He proves again and again why the older bikes are so much better. My F8 rim brake line is proper and is 6.8kg with pedals. It is like they did the brake line on tihs to purposely punish rim brakers.
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I miss the old comments back in the days, good to Hear from you!!
@f1fanatic7102 жыл бұрын
One of the best examples of Italian beauty. Love the rim version.
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
they killed it
@cptnfitness84902 жыл бұрын
I believe direct mount type rim brakes are best brake system for road bikes. I really regret that I didn’t buy Canyon Aeroad rim brake model because my job had been hardly hit by both the new cold war to China and the Corona pandemic.
@jacdogma1316 Жыл бұрын
I was trying to buy a Canyon Ultimate with rim brakes - which weighed in at 7.0kg, cost £2400 - they relaunched it with DISC brakes, weight 8.0kg, cost £3200 - DUH Very Stupid 'update' - now 34% more expensive and 1.0 kg heavier !! Needless to say I did not buy the update disc and their proposal email got a short but rude rejection. This is the real reason disc brakes are being put on all updates - the bike industry is using the disc brake system to justify a 30% to 40% premium over rim version and people are buying this crap
@Tazangamoz2 жыл бұрын
Rim brake for sure. 💯
@finnmcguire21342 жыл бұрын
The dogma is definitely not the lightest bike in the world but you just cannot beat the way that thing looks, especially with the rim brakes I think it looks even better.
@jacdogma1316 Жыл бұрын
Dogma might not be the lightest bike but it is the smoothest most comfortable ride with amazing sharp handling, it beats difficult corners every time, no contest.
@NeedforspeedRS2 жыл бұрын
Rim brake for life 🙌🏻
@m4rc102 жыл бұрын
Rim brakes for ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@knedragon2 жыл бұрын
Just finished my 54 Pluto Rim brake . THM cranks , Dura Ace 9150 , Cane Creek , Zipp 404 NSW's , hit the scales at 14.08 lbs w/pedals , cages and mount . Brakes are insane , no need for disc.
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
holy shit that bike sounds insanely light and expensive!!!! send me a pic I wanna see lol
@knedragon2 жыл бұрын
@@GCPerformance18 just did a little springtime make over ( so i could eat ) 5.68 kg / 12.53 lbs :-)
@alexjohnson64622 жыл бұрын
Direct Mount is something that should have gained popularity a lot sooner (I mean DM in its modern form. I know cantilever and similar have been around for a very long time). If it did, maybe the whole trajectory of the rim versus disc decision might have went down differently. Unfortunately, direct mount really did not start to get popular on new models until disc had already started to take a foothold, and by then it was kind of too late. If people could have seen twenty years ago how much nicer it was over the old single pivot rim brakes, maybe thats the direction the industry should have went. Its the best middle ground solution.
@TheCountrySteve2 жыл бұрын
The main reason for the push towards discs was that they work better with carbon rims though. DM calipers don't stop the problem of rim wear and overheating/delamination. That said, I do agree that it's a great system from a braking point of view
@alexjohnson64622 жыл бұрын
I concur. Carbon rims seem like the primary driving force toward adopting rim brakes. The two primary issues being poor braking of carbon versus alloy, as well as overheating of the brake track which can lead to rim blow out along the clincher and tubeless bead in cases where the rim gets way overheated and the epoxy softens from sustained downhill braking. Thats rare in practice, but its been shown that its easy to do in 'lab' tests. There's a good video of a manufacturer who leaves the brakes on as they test various carbon rims, and pretty much every clincher fails catastrophically. I switched to tubular carbon rims and it alleviates the most serious of those two problems as tubulars are virtually impossibke to blow out from overheating, however the braking still kind of sucks on carbon. Experimenting with different carbon pads and different carbon braje tracks (e.g. carbon that gas grooves cut into it, etc...) helps a bit, but rim brake advances on carbon rims are ever really going to beat disc. Still, I likd the tubulars rims because I know they wont fail from riding the brakes going downhill.
@TheCountrySteve2 жыл бұрын
@@alexjohnson6462 I’ll be tempted by tubs once I have a team car following me. Until then, not so much
@portland6752 жыл бұрын
@@alexjohnson6462 tubulars are known to overheat and roll off the rim. It’s what ended Joseba belokis career. Not nearly as common as brake track delaminating of course.
@jacdogma1316 Жыл бұрын
@@alexjohnson6462 I have had one blow out while descending a mountain pass in Scotland - it was a clincher on a Mavic alloy, the blow out was slow and left me with good control to come to a stop; no spectacular loss of control. My opinion is that while many people want to go carbon wheels, carbon simply isn't a great material for wheels - it is great for frames and making aeroplanes etc but it does not tolerate heat at all well as we know it tends to de-laminate; also the epoxy isn't that light so the lightest stiffest and best value still comes from alloy wheels, lighter, stiffer and faster. Also substantially less pricey. Try Ksyrium Pro Exalith with Direct mount braking - amazing.
@simonratcliffe688 Жыл бұрын
HI - I have a UK Dogma F with rim brakes with ee brakes. Very rare in the UK - also initially spec'd it with one- by - but have since converted back to two-by due gearing didn't work for my type of riding. In one-by weighed 6.7KG.
@GCPerformance18 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!!! sounds like a nice build
@ankjaers2 жыл бұрын
I would still go for the rim brake version. I dont have anything against disc brakes. I just dont see the need for more brake power when the tires are the limiting factor. And since disc brakes for someone who do all their work on the bike. Its just making things more complicated than it needs to be.
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
the rear rim brake felt like booty, because of all the integrated routing not a fan to be honest, would take disc over it
@ankjaers2 жыл бұрын
@@GCPerformance18 Probably just a cheap cable used? You can get cables made for this
@vittoriochiu81812 жыл бұрын
Biased, but this is my favourite looking bike I’ve seen in a long while ~ rims just look right on a small frame, skinny tire competition bike
@Benie19848 ай бұрын
Collector's item, very retro, even nostalgic with the rim breaks.
@kelvingrover40432 жыл бұрын
Rim brakes rule 2022
@nannasfeet2 жыл бұрын
Hey GC , I was in Pinarello London the other day looking to buy the rim version and I can tell you that both rim brake frames I tried the rear brake felt very very smooth , almost like it was not even ran internally . It was so smooth and it was Dura Ace . Just putting that out there as it definitely didn’t feel crap .
@Havanafly5 ай бұрын
Lovely bike. Just like my F12 with rim brakes
@Ih8GoogleandApple2 жыл бұрын
Everything about this bike is an unexpected surprise regarding wheels and brakes. If the headstack was lower it would look killer
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
yea I knwo the genetlemen who rides it just rides for ocmfort and for the love of the sport he just wants to be comfortable
@vukgrujic29572 жыл бұрын
this is not a debate...rims are always lighter...keep in mind whole bike needs to have more carbon for stronger forks, more wires on wheels, heavier hubs etc
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
Yea I mean disc brakes are heavier
@ilgour2 жыл бұрын
Save rim brake imo, disc brake has it place in the market, but so does rim brake. Its stupid that the industry want us to deep throat their one size fit all disc brake solution.
@waynosfotos2 жыл бұрын
Here here
@87togabito2 жыл бұрын
Clearly, no new consumers cares about rim brakes. Plus, why would I want to see rim brakes when it just means money being wasted on R&D on a dying system? Money is better spent innovating on disc brake systems, than trying to build two bikes for two different systems. But, to be honest it doesn’t really matter to me. The industry already has shown that its moving towards no longer bothering to accommodate for rim brakes. So I’m not concerned that my next bike purchase will be held back by an industry’s need to cater to rim brakes.
@Onigure2 жыл бұрын
It's so easy to work on rim brakes, also so inexpensive, not good for companies who want to make money.
@Onigure2 жыл бұрын
The only instance I'd buy a disc brake bike is for my girlfriend. She has tiny hands and little arm strength for breaking in long descents. She tried a hydraulic disc brake bike and it was a game-changer in her words.
@87togabito2 жыл бұрын
Lol the excuses I hear about from rim brake adherents about its superiority. Lighter? What’s cycling supposed to be? Weight lifting championship? Easier to maintain? For Christ sake why does that concern you when you can just leave it to the professionals. But that said, I do agree that rim brake has its place in the industry; where the trash bin is.
@danc18292 жыл бұрын
Rim brakes for me, never had a need for discs.
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
once you go disc you wont go abck
@danc18292 жыл бұрын
@@GCPerformance18 I did 😜 I had a tcr disc model and went back to rim brakes 😂
@davidcummings77352 жыл бұрын
@@GCPerformance18 I started on rim brakes, changed to hydro disc in 2018, now gone back to rim brakes on a 2012 Cannondale Evo Hi-mod 6.4kg, best bike I've ridden or owned. ( Good enough for Sagan good enough for me!).
@FaiscaaaH2 жыл бұрын
And a bike that costs 14000€ and has the weight of 7.2 kg ?? LOOOOOOL I will stay with my Pinarello Dogma Think 2 65.1 with 6.6 kg ;)
@JayLato2 жыл бұрын
5:52 man I love being a turtle.
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
lmao what
@MotoLopez1k2 жыл бұрын
Of course they are 💯! Only way to make disk lighter is to compromise frame build. Today rim brake bikes aren’t built like they used to. They are also specked differently. Not only that…Shimano new electronic group was purposefully designed weightier than the disc brake version🤔…and many other arguments.
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
I mean this rim brake to me the way it was ran for the rear brake felt like booty compared to a disc obvi, I would prefer from a consumer stand point a disc break for my personal bike
@87togabito2 жыл бұрын
Or maybe rim brakes have always been the crapier system to begin with, just that disc brake developmental have surpassed it in both weight and performance. Which is kind of telling of how crap a system rim brakes are; it’s had a 4 decade developmental head start in road cycling, only to be overtaken by disc which is still in its infancy. Lol rim brakes are crap. Just accept it and move on. Or move to buying your future replacement parts from the garbage bin.
@MotoLopez1k2 жыл бұрын
@@87togabito not really. Sometimes simpler is better….
@portland6752 жыл бұрын
@@87togabito thank you!
@portland6752 жыл бұрын
@@MotoLopez1k rim brakes aren’t simpler, they’re just cheaper
@marcinstyle852 жыл бұрын
On Giant propel the design and setup rim brake is much smarter ,they should do similar on this bike
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
I do not like the propel
@adriannavarro6834 Жыл бұрын
Giant yuck
@mrjekpogi312 жыл бұрын
this bike can fly on climbs..just wow what a beauty
@lexus26312 жыл бұрын
Almost there !!! Just missing the Bora carbon Wheels !!! Almost !!the Italian Dream bike !!!
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
yea I knwo bora wto ftw that bike would be so much money lol
@sbsb49952 жыл бұрын
Fantastic to see rim brakes bicycle. Disc brakes ruined the look, the weight and the aerodynamic of the bicycles. Disc brakes system is the biggest marketing gimmick in the history of bicycles.
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
yea we do not see them that often but they look so nice
@portland6752 жыл бұрын
Disc brakes are one of the best things to ever happen to bicycles.
@jacdogma1316 Жыл бұрын
Agree big scam - 34% premium on the disc versions, they are heavier, the discs rub, brakes tend to lock and skid, just not safe - expensive crap, gimmick.
@highfived2 жыл бұрын
Rim brake lives matter ❤️
@sjmclean02 жыл бұрын
Rim brake for me. Never had a situation where my direct mount's aren't powerful for. They also look considerably better than disks.
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, after me only working on rim brakes for a couple years now. I prefer the disc look
@drym39432 жыл бұрын
Rim are so much better. I brake once a ride and it is just to adjuste to the speed of the rider in front of me. So yeah rim for me.
@jacdogma1316 Жыл бұрын
Spectacular bike - the best best best bike on the planet. RIM Brakes all the way, will never buy a disc bike.!! (I have an F10 RIM, flatly refuse to buy anything DISC, DISC is a 4 letter word, if anyone thinks disc brakes are a safety upgrade please have a careful look at Mattie Mohoric's crash in the 2021 Giro - DISCs are dumb and dangerous)
@GCPerformance18 Жыл бұрын
maybe one day companies will release rim brakes again
@FortunaCzNam Жыл бұрын
@@GCPerformance18 The bicycle industry does this - in the 80s they were fitting hub brakes, then in the 90s there were oval chain rings (Froome still uses these), now we have discs, it is a gimmick used to attract 34% premium, sooner or later cyclists will figure out that disc bikes are 1.0kg heavier, have asymmetric frame stiffness leading to asymmetric power transmission and are unsafe - you are much more likely to lock up your front brake and go over the handlebars or skid and fall in the wet or break the front fork. Cyclists will eventually figure it out. There is a real hussle at the bike shop when you question them pushing discs, it's bull sh#t
@timtaylor95902 жыл бұрын
that rear brake cable routing is ridiculous just make it go from the bars to the top tube.
@Gimmiesandtipped2 жыл бұрын
On a Dogma, I’d go rim as it’s a heavier frame.
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
its only a little heavier and too be hoenst, I hated how the rim brakes felt when squeezing brakes they felt like booty
@waynosfotos2 жыл бұрын
From what I heard, Pino rim, order only
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
yea this guy has some serious connections with pinarello
@luigibirillo66292 жыл бұрын
@@GCPerformance18 sounds like he's a made man
@jacdogma1316 Жыл бұрын
You obviously know nothing about buying a Pinarello Dogma - when you go to the Pinarello store you do not buy a bike off the shelf. They measure you up and agree a frame size - you can try out bikes on a turbo or have a bike fit session, you are then offered a choice of frames and can have a custom paint job if you want it, you can specify whatever group set you want, the braking system you want and you can take their options for wheels or get your own choice - the bike is built entirely to your specification as you want it - it is a custom build to your spec entirely - this is what you get for spending that much money and this is why Pinarello is in a class of it's own - it is your bike built your way to your spec. (That was my experience when I bought an F10 - these are the best bikes in the world because they are tailor made for their owner).
@wasupwitdat1mofiki942 жыл бұрын
I would dump those carbon wheels and mount a set of Shamal Mille wheels from a couple of years ago if I could get my hands on a set. Update: I just checked the Campagnolo website and they still have the Shamal's which is actually called Ultra now. They only weigh 1450g. I know from owning the Mille these wheels are the best I've ever used.
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
yea those wheels should be lighter
@TheCountrySteve2 жыл бұрын
It would look a lot better with a rear hub actually designed for rim brakes. That butchered disc brake hub looks awful
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
yea I knwo right, looks so weird
@portland6752 жыл бұрын
It’s not a disc hub. The flanges and spacing would be in the wrong place if it were disc. There’s no rotor attachment and it’s got a different axle.
@TheCountrySteve2 жыл бұрын
@@portland675 In that case, it’s just ugly
@eikm312 жыл бұрын
looks amazing!!!!
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
agreed!!! it looked bad ass
@marcuswong17972 жыл бұрын
dam that is heavy. didn't know that campy eps is that much heavier than dura ace di2. what the weight on those wheels? Wonder why the owner didn't get campy wheels to finish off this pure italian perfection
@bigmikeshooter2 жыл бұрын
Rim brakes are alive. Greetings from Greece GC...
@kohpj77702 жыл бұрын
White industries hub is a little bit heavy it will be lighter if replace with carbon ti
@Agiyi2 жыл бұрын
The whole twist and bend of the cables... That was not a "why hydro discs are better/easier to work with" argument, that was a "internal cables are worse" argument. Plus, you proposed this argument while showing this bike where it literally does what you're saying that can't be done. It didn't make any sense.
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
in terms of how the rear brake felt, like you had no rear brake at all, just felt like moosh, it can be done but does not work the way it should
@Agiyi2 жыл бұрын
@@GCPerformance18 that's not what you said in the video. 2:55 you said that feel is good for a rim brake
@phildub132 жыл бұрын
Where can I find those bottle cages? I would love them on my F.
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
I do not know I am sorry
@joseluisredondogarcia52442 жыл бұрын
Almost no rim brake clearance at 4:24 , those pads will rub as soon as you go out of the saddle. 💥
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
lmao I know that is the downside to rim brake, the clearance tolerances suck
@durianriders2 жыл бұрын
look how little disc pad clearance you have on your road disc bike bro. Now you understand why us power riders prefer rim as there is zero rub compared to road disc.
@danielschinagl5960 Жыл бұрын
Dogma F with rim brake in pink
@ravenjadepalacay18212 жыл бұрын
Sheesh that's hot🔥🔥🔥
@SuperTaylor682 жыл бұрын
So the rim brake weighs exactly the same as the disc? Did I get that right looking at your previous disc video? Specs looked it exactly the same 🧐
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
yep for this model, this is the weight of it, now this one had a power meter and also garmin mount
@retroonhisbikes2 жыл бұрын
Wow those wheels are expensive. Whats the cost to replace the braking surface?
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
lmao I have no idea, i am not familiar with rim brake bikes anymore, I am a noob
@waynosfotos2 жыл бұрын
If you only ride in the dry, they last for the life of the bike
@retroonhisbikes2 жыл бұрын
@@waynosfotos thats me. Dont that bad then
@87togabito2 жыл бұрын
@@waynosfotos which is probably a day since you’d toss it away after a single ride after realising how crap it is compared to its disc brake variant.
@luigibirillo66292 жыл бұрын
@@87togabito Hahahahaha that's so funny 😅 you make me LOL
@verbinnenben2 жыл бұрын
My size 54 tarmac sl6 pro with Ultegra weighs like the same with pedals, bottle cages and mount wtf (1390g wheels and latex inner tubes tough).
@guiazevedoleite2 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@basedgodstrugglin2 жыл бұрын
Campag is like “jerly” if you ask DJ Khaled
@nuttynut7222 жыл бұрын
the amount of spacer scream dentist
@rudyelizondo19352 жыл бұрын
Cool bike bro
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
I love it
@museves2 жыл бұрын
Almost got myself a dogma f in rim brake, until i cant find a decent wheelset for it
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
yea that is the toiugh part too but lok at priceton they make all there wheels in rim brake
@jacdogma1316 Жыл бұрын
@@GCPerformance18 Ksyrium Pro Exalith - amazing light with exceptional braking, cost a third of what carbon wheels cost ........ That is what I have on my F10 - it works great.
@SupercarAlex1502 жыл бұрын
What bike stand is it?
@milutinbegovic-orjenskigorstak2 жыл бұрын
Ooops I wanna drive this bike few kilometers 😕 no chance boy ha ha ha 😂
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
it is a dream too look at
@alizfe1 Жыл бұрын
with rim brakes, it is more beautifull
@GCPerformance18 Жыл бұрын
this biek just looks rare in rim brake i like it, reminds me of a unicorn
@e3dave7442 жыл бұрын
Those wheels 🥰
@ozgurinsan2 жыл бұрын
pinarello frames are on the heavier side. spacers under the stem are very ugly.
@waynosfotos2 жыл бұрын
Campy Red carbon pads are the ones i loVe. Not sure if the yellow pads are campy, can you comfirm? Cheers GC #savetherimbrake what a bike!
@am7jeremy2 жыл бұрын
Those are SwissStop RacePros I believe.
@elvisderblasehase95222 жыл бұрын
Could be swissstop yellow prince
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
yellow pads are swissstop lol but yes all campy eveyrhitng
@jivano2 жыл бұрын
What size handlebars and stem?
@sagcrossroad2 жыл бұрын
its way heavier than I thought...
@harshvardhansharma22312 жыл бұрын
campagnolo groupset is a bit heavier than shimano. weight could also be shed by slamming that bar and stem.
@sagcrossroad2 жыл бұрын
@@harshvardhansharma2231He posted the disc brake version and its the same weight. I would thought the disc brake version would be around 6.8
@FattyOn2Wheels2 жыл бұрын
He was very lucky and rich
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
hahahahahha he is a top dog for sure
@XFly1702 жыл бұрын
JE-WE-LLERY… gotta say it slow for it to come out right. I know, I’m the same…😁
@NewPolishScientist2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
this one bike for sure is underated I miss seeing this highend modern bike with old school brakes
@debelifratar2 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute? They made 142mm rear spacing and pushed rim brake wheel inside it using a spacer?
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
lmao no just that wheel was made with no center lock ring and they just finished it flat
@luigibirillo66292 жыл бұрын
@@GCPerformance18 So the left hub flange is unneccessarily close to the center of the hub? Or did they use the space where there is no disc?
@argeelearner39782 жыл бұрын
Make Rim Brakes Great Again!!!!!!!!!!
@bendardania2 жыл бұрын
I don’t get it how did it come to 7.1… I thought all rim brake bikes are -6.8…. Lol. Unless you put tubulars with some super light Pirelli’s or Tufo’s at this point disc b b with high end components are almost catching up to rim b b.
@am7jeremy2 жыл бұрын
It's a heavy aero frameset/fork/seatpost that's why.
@simonwarmer87772 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame it’s a unicorn!
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
it is very hard to find
@dionisiuskusuma14622 жыл бұрын
Campy Super Record EPS 12 has no 11-28 casette. It's either 11-29 or 11-32 casette
@waynosfotos2 жыл бұрын
Ah no, you can use the 11-34 chorus cassette. I have 12 speed record and have this fitted.
@am7jeremy2 жыл бұрын
Super Record comes 11-34t as well.
@Felix74566 Жыл бұрын
2023 - still on rim brakes!
@GCPerformance18 Жыл бұрын
yes the man is
@odiesdad012 жыл бұрын
First!! Awesome bike.
@dsonyay Жыл бұрын
Rim. Always rim. Disc is too heavy, more maintenance.
@timtaylor95902 жыл бұрын
almost my size
@endeavour53162 жыл бұрын
Dammm haven’t seen a rim brake F yet Id still go for disc brake though
@yeungline2 жыл бұрын
That many spacers...🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
@Bradbajc2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it hasnt been cut down yet?? haha
@markwright80302 жыл бұрын
NICE 👍👍👍👍👍🚴♂️👌
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
Thanks ✌
@cbb3062 Жыл бұрын
Did you weight it
@GCPerformance18 Жыл бұрын
yea at the beginnning of the video
@cbb3062 Жыл бұрын
@GC Performance oh lol sorry I skipped the first minute and couldn't find it 🤣
@dtroxx0072 жыл бұрын
Rare, but ugly :). Disc brake and intergrated cables ftw.
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
yea I think we are so use to seeing these new bikes with disc brakes that our taste for bikes now becomes the norm to see bikes with disc brake this bike with rim brakes through me off for a little
@Ghost125612 жыл бұрын
Rim brake user here for 20 years, watching rim brake bike nowadays look so outdated
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
I knjow right?!?!?! thats what I jsut said ot someone else I got so use to only seeing disc brake that it now became the norm to be and this through me off for a little
@golfchvse2 жыл бұрын
i feel like thats not THAT light, all the weight wennies in here very silent. HAHA disc ftw. You can keep your horse and carriage.
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
lmao yea I knwo right and for sure, me as a consumer i would take the advantages of disc for that minimal weight advantage
@golfchvse2 жыл бұрын
@@GCPerformance18 absolutely. I wonder if rim brake riders still mow their lawns with a scythe.
@87togabito2 жыл бұрын
@@golfchvse Given how DIY and budget seems to be one of the biggest reasons they tout for rims, I doubt most of them have a lawn, or even a house, for that matter
@golfchvse2 жыл бұрын
@@87togabito lol fr.
@acenday14372 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy mtb isn’t like this !!!
@FaiscaaaH2 жыл бұрын
Pinarello are getting uglier every year ....
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
I really do like the look of this dogma f but style is subjective so it is not for everyone
@charliedillon14002 жыл бұрын
Pinarellos are ugly like Lamborghinis. They both try so hard to look cool they end up looking silly. Like a stripper with glitter on her tits.
@portland6752 жыл бұрын
Sure, a lot of rim brake bikes are lighter. But who cares? Weight does not equate performance unless you’re doing a hill climb.
@durianriders2 жыл бұрын
so for 100 years cyclists were taught that weight matters and now you say that it doesnt unless going up a hill. So why is your bike made of carbon then and why do you use such lightweight parts when sora shifts just as good but weighs more?
@portland6752 жыл бұрын
@@durianriders no one respects your opinions. You’re a hack. Probably the single worst source of cycling advice on the internet. We all know weight is mostly irrelevant and was always marketing BS. I’ve got multiple hill climb titles to my name, all done on a 17lb bike, because that’s all I could afford when I was younger. At 175lb body weight no less. If you don’t understand the difference between sora and ultegra, you’re dumber than I gave you credit for.
@kpizzle19852 жыл бұрын
This really is not a light bike
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
nope it is not
@kpizzle19852 жыл бұрын
@@GCPerformance18 my size 56 Strada Due, with 56mm wheels and Ultegra Di2 weighs 7.08kg without pedals and is way less than half the price 😱
@Tommmmmmmmmmmm2 жыл бұрын
rim brakes look so messy and dated now. kinda ruins the aesthetics of the bike too. not to mention they’re vastly inferior to disc brakes.
@matkrek2 жыл бұрын
weird take aha, this is a first
@ilgour2 жыл бұрын
outdated, not aesthetics and vastly inferior...just lol. Is that fake news or you beleive yourself?
@matkrek2 жыл бұрын
@@ilgour the guy is justifying is heavier bike to himself when the pros had zero issues with rim brakes. But surprise surprise, the pros are annoyed by slower wheel changes and some instances of 'lock up'
@waynosfotos2 жыл бұрын
Nope. Aesthetics is in the eye of the beholder. I personally don't like the look of the modern dropped seat stays and disc brake cable integration. As to being inferior. Done a number of vids on this. Disc will stop you no quicker, and are less aero. The only advantage is in the wet, and are you going to ride this bike in the rain?
@danc18292 жыл бұрын
someone watches too much of GCN 😂
@silver_c1oud2 жыл бұрын
Rim brake? Garbage. Disk is way better. i dont care about weight weenie, or whatsoever benefits of rimbrake. Rimbrake is Trash, period.
@GCPerformance182 жыл бұрын
agreed
@87togabito2 жыл бұрын
This is a bike that you could leave unchained outside a cafe and not worry, for the rim brakes on it makes it worthless even to a thief.