First Look At The New Pinarello Dogma F Superbike

[@gcn]

What do you make of the new Pinarello Dogma F? 🎉

[@kanchandratip2972]

Punarello🤣

[@gcn]

@@kanchandratip2972 Admin Spent too much time staring at the bike and not proof reading 😉

[@littlevo9]

Je suis un fan Specialized ,j’adore mon sl7 sworks 2023 ,depuis que je l’ai plus aucun autre vélo ne me fait envie…

[@Mr.NotImportant-qu5rx]

Sadly it doesn't help me enjoy cycling more. I'm at that age where a steel frame 🚲 (fat tire, road, gravel, single speed cruiser brake, etc) that works OK is good for me. This 🚲 technology is fun to look at but it doesn't help me anymore.

[@BMD8]

is it compatible with mechanical groupsets?

[@TheCmcyclist]

I don’t race, care little about aero gains and prefer mostly comfort with performance. It’s not for me and would be seriously too expensive for my budget. But it’s fun to see what the pros are using.

[@kovie9162]

It would be fun to ride one for a couple of minutes on a closed course at some trade event, just to see what the very high end is like. But otherwise, I have no interest in them.

[@morganil93]

​@@kovie9162I'd be too scared to drop it like an idiot and owe them a new bike.

[@samuel8590]

lol...Aero is SO overrated for us mortals. Great bike, but I personally like more a climbing bike with 50mm deep wheels. That set up gets it done for me.

[@billskolnik4908]

@@kovie9162 It's not about the bike, It's about the engine. Lance Armstrong. You aren't missing anything that you won't rrember a few days later.

[@Dimashoey]

@@samuel8590this is me. 2021 TCR with 52/63 reserve wheels

[@sidiastor9091]

I rather like Ollies presentation of the bike. The information is on point and delivered in an enthusiastic but sober manner. He states that the content is sponsored and I respect that. Besides the bike being great, I‘m sure, I did not feel dragged by the hair to fall in love with it. I could do with less of the overly dramatic music…but hey 😅 Well done!

[@starlitshadows]

What a beautiful bike. I'd never buy one that expensive but it's nice to look at. One of my favorite bikes I've seen this year.

[@glennicol1361]

Wasn't really into Pinarello until I visited their shop in Shanghai... The bikes do look very nice in person.

[@kimdecker8901]

I almost didn't watch this video because I'm not in the market for a Pinarello bike--or any bike, for that matter. But I'm glad I did. I learned a lot about bike aerodynamics and why bike designers make the decisions they do. Revelatory for this non-techie cyclist! Thank you!

[@storegga]

Anyone else here Spray Painter by trade? Amazing what finishes add in value. Especially metallics, sheens, and fades of recent. Still a lot in time and mental inventory though... thats just the finish process, before the bike/product is even built! Aesthetics have such intrinsic value more than ever in my opinion! Kudos Pinarello.

[@JFomo]

Sick bike, I could only dream of ever owning a Dogma F.

[@garyschnitker6689]

Have to wonder if the paint on the seat post will be damaged by raising and lowering.

[@storegga]

yup, very much... SET and FORGET

[@theovannieuwenhuizen5756]

Or cleaning out the boltheads to adjust the height.

[@bryanang5201]

8:35 SHEEEEEEEP *squeals in Clarkson's voice*

[@gcn]

The bike looks right at home here! 👌 🐑

[@teka5509]

Easily the most beautiful frame design ever. Especially the all black one.

[@mommamooney]

I appreciate learning about high end bikes. I don’t need one, but innovation benefits everyone. That paint is amazing

[@waywardchildcyclist]

Fabulous colour built a Reynolds 531 in 76 in same colour my favourite bike ever.

[@stickler6312]

Just don't get Matt paint, from experience.

[@Nehpets1701G]

I'd buy it just for the looks - immaculate ❤️

[@johnandrews3568]

I rode Pinarello exclusively for more than three decades. Moved over the Bianchi and I'm not changing any time soon.

[@gcn]

What made you take the jump? 👀

[@johnandrews3568]

@@gcn i hate black bikes and that's all they had on offer when i was ready to buy, and I always wanted a celeste Bianchi.

[@gcn]

@@johnandrews3568 How about this new colour? It looks even better in person 🙌

[@johnandrews3568]

@@gcn It's nice but celeste is best!

[@vongdong10]

Same marketing bs every year.

[@Millicente]

You clicked on this btw

[@dominicbritt]

He was pretty upfront about it not being a review…

[@vongdong10]

@@dominicbritt so? He would say the same thing on every new bike regardless if it's a review or showcase

[@AlpenDitrix]

a man have to eat!

[@charlesmiv3842]

@@AlpenDitrix nah

[@Stelvioman_2758]

I rode all Pinas since the Prince. The descending skills of the last F were outstanding. Can’t wait to test the new one up and down Stelvio, sunrise may be Ollie?😉

[@GCNuser123]

100%

[@quebecois57]

Where is Ollie all black Pinarello ?

[@dylan-5287]

He doesn't talk about that bike.

[@MarkDunn-yr2qc]

Great report and thanks for the latest update on the F! Currently I ride the Plutonium Dogma F Flash with Shimano C60’s and love it,,,, A team built the bike for my whilst I was in Mestrino just a short hop from Treviso factory and shop there.

[@pinoarri190]

Well, I watched gcn Italy reviewing it and there is no comparison with yours. You are absolutely the best truly teller here!

[@reginaldscot165]

Looks the same as the last 3?

[@TBat0431]

Nah bro looks again

[@albertosantangelo6872]

Indeed. Put it next to a Tarmac and you will barely notice the difference.

[@celilcetiner]

AND MORE EXPENSIVE 😁

[@RadioBirikinaShorts4475]

Yes I like expensive

[@TBat0431]

More expensive means more better

[@Thomas-fy9yc]

If you find it expensive it’s most likely not marketed for you. My cycling friends that purchase these bikes are not very price sensitive and will buy what they want, not what they need.

[@dasf89]

Well, for once it's actually the same as before.

[@LCNismo]

It’s not for broke people

[@plexiform1973]

I don’t even ride bikes on any regular basis and I want one. Damn that’s pretty! I’d just put it in my office and stare at it.

[@James-J-J-J]

£12,600 for a bike. I can buy a car for that. It’s a nice bike no doubt but there aren’t too many ppl paying that price, no matter how nice it is.

[@QuailFat]

I never considered a Pinarello, however after watching the video, I'm going to buy one for myself and another for my wife. Ollie has the best reviews.

[@238949]

Beautiful bike, well out of my price range but lovely to look at, brilliant having Ollie back 🤓

[@Local.hero.cycling.]

Even the background music is strategically chosen (it's spend money,buy me,tv advert music)

[@JordyJayHomer]

Yes, when did this channel turn into infomercials?

[@JulAlxAU]

And it breaks the bank! I stick to my BMC RM for now! Thank you.

[@narutodayo]

Glad to see them getting their frame weight down a bit.

[@cuebj]

I'm planning to try a paint effect like that on some pine panels to cover access points at home: stop valves for showers accessed from wall behind the showers, etc. High quality oil-based clear varnishes of different lustre levels sanded at slight angles, re-finished with a bit of dye in the mixes. Just to see if it works and goes with some metallic effect tiles

[@Sweetskis]

If anyone watching this wanted a Pinarello look for new old stock 2022 Prince, Paris, Dogma models. I think Pinarello is offering some hefty incentives for dealers to clear those out with big discounts.

[@chrisscott558]

Does the seat post still creak?

[@billskolnik4908]

Not if you grease it, like anything else.

[@arthursosajr.2031]

Beautiful bike, beautiful color. Looks like it is still cold over there.

[@erikolsen6269]

Man, I was watching some serious news video, then I scrolled down and saw your gorgeous figure Ollie, and I couldnt help but click the video. I dont regret it. Great vid. Keep em coming.

[@festerofest4374]

Stunning. Out of my budget but I love seeing the details on these super bikes.

[@CMZPICTURES]

Was this filmed in the hills around Abergavenny? Looks amazing! Bikes not bad either :-)

[@a1white]

Looks very Welsh doesn’t it? Stunning roads

[@gingerrussell]

Might be filmed around the Bwlch? I came here to ask the same question.

[@user-mr4yv4dd1r]

@@gingerrussell ARAF/Slow on the roads - certainly Wales but where ?

[@KevinBrown-lo3ce]

For a normal guy riding for fun and to keep fit, all this technical guff matters not a jot….. an absolute complete waste of money unless you are a top tour rider. Anyone else has either too much money or are kidding themselves

[@reecedawson6113]

I can't wait for all of the comments, thats why I'm here

[@gcn]

We can't either! Bring on the engagement 👌

[@bicikircho]

"it's too expensive" "it's a dentists bike" "I can't afford it, my mum won't let me" and more...

[@kidShibuya]

People are always really mad that any new bike exists... I don't get it.

[@vistacyclingtuscany]

Hoping the Dogma F will available soon for rent out here in Tuscany! Come join in...

[@grahamsmith2022]

Absolutely beautiful but horrifically expensive, one for the elite level riders.

[@cb6866]

Thanks Dr O , and crew .

[@jerrybeaver4959]

Ollie, this makes me want y’all to do a video on how a non-pro (non-rich) rider can have a superbike. For those of us shopping for a new bike for say 3k to 5k budget, can you cover options for buying a used superbike in the same range. Which would be the best bargains, how to find them, maybe a contest among the presenters to see who found the best bang for buck.

[@WayneCouyon]

I'd take an Alpe d'Huez or Skylon over this any day of week.

[@gcn]

Wales never fails 🙌

[@9090Glenn]

GO OLLIE GO !!!! - Pinarello bike looks sick - GCN hat looks shyte - next ......... AYE

[@rodcosta2345]

Maybe it's me but the melted Picassoesque aesthetic of Pinarellos doesn't do it for me... cool bike though. 🤷🏽‍♂

[@quentendeclercq4792]

If you like straight lines. do you like the 'new' look blade 795 blade rs? It is quite the opposite from this design.

[@SaintGerbilUK]

The dogma is strong with this one...

[@beyond8981]

Fantastic summary as always - stunning bike

[@StopTheRot]

I honestly feel that Carbon frames have had their time. From what I can gather, only Time build their frames consistently well, because carbon is so hard to work with. I feel - with 32mm tyres - we’re heading back to metal frames, probably aluminium alloys, because they’re cheap and easy to work with. The only downside was comfort - but that’s irrelevant with 32mm tyres at 55psi.

[@muratmustafa4532]

This is so much an advert of a sponsor!

[@gcn]

Bingo 🙌 We love showing off the best new tech. We understand this is a top of the line bike but it's great to nerd out over 🤓

[@muratmustafa4532]

@@gcn fair play. Expect the same enthusiasm for non-sponsoring brands as well 😉

[@dominicbritt]

The statement “This is not a review” was a clue for you… 🤡

[@petersouthernboy6327]

TBH, having Pinnarello as a Sponsor is a boss move

[@muratmustafa4532]

@@dominicbritt yeah but the video was exactly a review 😂

[@Cycle.every.day.]

Just get a Chinarello, £399 for frameset.

[@ariffau]

VeloBuild.

[@bicikircho]

and then get your teeth fixed by the dentist that owns a true pinarello. 🤣

[@michaelmechex]

Very creative with the naming scheme there 😂 I'm sure Dogma F is way better than Dogma F 😂

[@RyonBeachner]

Like how the S-Works Tarmac is better than S-Works Tarmac or how Giant TCR SL is better than Giant TCR SL, or how the Cervelo S5 is better than the Cervelo S5, or how the Canyon Aeroad CFR is better than the Canyon Aeroad CFR… They literally just brought their naming convention in line with the rest of the industry as “Dogma” now indicates their top of the range model, and the F or X designates the geometry.

[@michaelmechex]

@@RyonBeachner at least Tarmac has the 'SL8' generation designation, but the fact that others do it as well doesn't make it any less confusing. I've tried to look up info on an older Canyon before, even finding the model year was hard.

[@ariefsyamil8905]

TOP TIER INTRO BRO 🔥🔥

[@JK-NOT-JK]

Hidden axles is a terrible idea - my BMC has them. I can’t use most roof racks, can’t put it on a turbo. Basically, marketing over substance. But if someone can afford £13k for a bike, they probably won’t care.

[@connerello119]

Good point made regarding turbo use.

[@kevinbuggie3808]

They sell thru axels that have “extensions” that look like the old QR knobby part that old school trainers grab onto. Less than $15

[@WerdnaLiten]

Why the cycling media keeps promoting race bikes is bizarre. Specialized released the Crux DSW the other week - all the usual suspects ignored it......

[@michaelchanky]

I own a Dogma F plutonium flash, I care less about the engineered side and what kind of aerodynamic as I'm not a pro nor amateur racer, just enjoy the design and the coloring. TBH, even the new Dogma F, I will just go for MyWay instead of the available color.

[@SY-ve5qm]

More weight savings, more stiffness, more aero, more money, less people cares…

[@83887]

One day after I bought a Pinarello all the ladies started to notice me😊

[@suhdud4646]

As an owner of an Elves frame that has the colour change effect, I'd formally like to welcome Pinarello owners of this new paint style to the party. Welcome, and kindly check-in the chip on your sholuder at the concierge counter. (Smug smirk) Jokes aside, Im not a fan of the blue but Im sure the other colour options would look beautiful.

[@Earage1117]

Tom Pidcock ride 50cm frame the trail was 68mm which is too long in old Dogma so he want's to increase rake to get faster handling, but due to Pinarello use the same fork to all frames, the trail number in new Dogma will be less than 53.3 for frame size larger than 56cm which Ollie is riding. The handling should be quite twitchy for him especially he use narrow handle bar. Perheps this is why he seems avoiding give comments in 10:34.

[@wingtip76]

The new trend in the cycling industry is "aerodynamic" lol they always have to find some new gimmick to sell bikes. Aerodynamic this aerodynamic that, how about you keep your F10, save money, and train harder.

[@LUCYDIAMONDBOXER1]

Did you lend it to Francis Cade after your review? He's holding the same bike under your vid on my subscribed 😅

[@gcn]

It's so good everyone wants a slice 🙌

[@a1white]

They did review it and called it “Phenomenal” 😮

[@Tarmaccyclocross]

Same old same old 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣aero what a load of old bollocks imagine riding that in a strong side wind. Tailwind it doesn’t really matter. Head wind you might gain 5 seconds over 10 miles on a Sunday morning club run 🤣🤣🤣 Aero’s brilliant for climbing NOT

[@pablor1768]

My "old" dogma F (Pianrello size 54) with exact same spec but with wider Ultra Talon Bars 420mm and Metron 45 SL wheels and 200g Pedals weights 7270g so really minor difference...

[@stephenjhughes64stephenjhu26]

Narrow bars are rubbish for climbing steep hills out of saddle and going round tight corners on country roads.

[@iann23]

Ollie can do his best to sound like a decent market trader, full of optimism and caffeine. But in reality, this bike is another overly expensive option in the slow decline of cycling options. There are many things I'd like to complain about, but just this will do for now, those wheels and spokes. Urgh. I'd rather pay £2k for a 10 year old proper bike. Hell, I'd even rather pay £1k for a 20 year old bike.

[@GalaxyImpactGarp]

Ill stick to my 2014 tcr

[@St.Petrock]

Nice roads. Where did you film this video please?

[@jameslee-pevenhull5087]

Wales. ARAF = SLOW.

[@TBat0431]

Yorkshire Moors

[@nemeanf27]

@@TBat0431 somewhere in Wales, the drone footage on one shot showed the bilingual road markings Araf or Slow in English

[@tobyarcher7623]

​@@nemeanf27 the shape of the hills in the background looked like the Black Mountains to me.

[@GCNuser123]

wales never fails!

[@isbisb]

First Look At The Empty Wallet

[@Jacob99174]

Then proceed to take the loan 😂

[@gcn]

Good enough to Empty your wallet for?

[@stevenfreeman7798]

Complete bollocks!! For Tarquins and Ruperts only!!. Unless you are Pidcock a normal rider wont tell sod all difference. Looks good at the cafe though!!!.

[@connerello119]

I’m a bang average rider but can tell the difference between my old Pinarello F8 and my F. I think the difference between the last F and new F would be hard to distinguish though. They even look almost identical.

8.2 kg Canyon Ultegra DI2 with Dura-Ace SPD-R pedals and 2 bottle holders for, I recon, 1/3rd of the price of this Pinarello. Satisfied and delighted ;-)

[@imranwahid11]

Like me mate, when I compare my Toyota Corolla with Ferrari. 😂

[@massaka17]

"Today don't sell that type of fibers to any brand" -> marketing bollocks

[@bengt_axle]

Aerodynamics more important than weight on a climb? That could indeed be dogma.

[@gcn]

Will it give Ineos some wins at the TDF? 🇫🇷

[@kovie9162]

Not wearing aero gloves negates both. 😅

[@jdancouga]

Can someone tell me which other brand copied the head tube design?

[@troycollett8540]

The pro riders are usually riding in a break or peloton so drafting plays a big part

[@SaltyChris-u6p]

@@jdancougaSpecialized on the SL8

[@siddharthch]

Pass

[@gcn]

Why? 😢

[@siddharthch]

@@gcn prefer aurum over this 😃

[@dominicbritt]

@@siddharthchthe only one…

[@troycollett8540]

Well I would certainly get one if I could afford it

[@endcensorship874]

Gather 'round everyone, it's time for GCN's regularly scheduled Pinarello circle-jerk.

[@ryang3118]

Tan walls set it off 😍😍😍

[@itsianwood]

Gorgeous video (and bike)!

[@MTBScotland]

its basically the same as the old one with different paint jobs.

[@adzaharmdsharipin641]

The seatstay looks straighter on the new model. I prefer the curvier seatstay of the F and F12

[@chrisscott558]

1% here 1% there and the price goes up 10%.

[@christophertan3195]

sorry to burst your bubble but no price increase

[@elviracatherinetalaoc2070]

That'll be $7,250 for the frame set alone.

[@Southerncyclist]

Looks exactly the same as the old one lol.

[@DarenC]

Night and day, eh? Bet it doesn't compare badly to my 2009 Scott CR1 Team. Shimano 105 10-spd, stock Mavic Aksium wheels and all 😂

[@ageofsigmar7236]

prototype in Italy Pinarello factory mass production Still made in China and Taiwan there is no such thing as an "authentic" frame anymore some would rather pay for an OEM frame then buy from a distributor that you are paying 3x or even 4x times higher and still produces from the same factory

[@andreassakkas7234]

You lost me at 7.2kg

[@troycollett8540]

Why

[@andreassakkas7234]

You wouldn't ask if you had ever ridden a really light bike

[@troycollett8540]

@@andreassakkas7234 whatever

[@a1white]

@@andreassakkas7234it’s pretty damn close, for a super aero bike, to the UCI weight limit. Like he says, you could probably get it down to 7 or just below

[@animeman197]

How fast can this beauty go?

[@tzaidi2349]

When I ride i want to feel like im in a fighter jet, if i want comfort Ill stay home and watch watch bike reviews. Seriously considering this bike, but as a 109lbs rider should I be going for something still lighter like a Tarmac SL8?

[@ridefastcoaching]

I think Pinarello are taking the piss. They're not alone either.

[@captnmaico6776]

The color is amazing, shame its so damn expensive

[@decoherence926]

Awesome bike.. Great values, especially for freds

[@waynehiggins899]

Keep it for one my TCR is lighter. Two cost me less than harf the price of this bike. When will people wake up and realise your getting ripped off

[@RonanAlexander]

Im confused, wasn't the f released in 2021

[@Timtimzi]

Wait...7.21kg isn't light at all for a bike this expensive. wtf . It's the same as the previous gen.

[@ginomordocco4710]

Pinarello - "No one needs this bike, but you all want it".

[@marcosav5442]

love how you hit specialized and in the other hand defend another brand's marketing... you are full of it...

[@troycollett8540]

?.

[@McLovin38FFs]

Since you’re swapping out the wheels may I please have the old ones? I would love a set of Princeton wheels!

[@realsmuu1046]

might have to cop.

[@marcopaganotto9125]

Who viewing will ever have the money to check one out? Would you even want to? Especially when you can get a decent Chinese frame for less than the handlebars on this bike!

[@connerello119]

I have a Dogma F and love it. This iteration is too similar to the last to warrant a purchase though.

[@hudsoneful]

F12 still the last one to win a GT

[@TorstenZander-se2we]

It's a stunning bike but even more the beautiful landscape. Where is it?

[@gcn]

It is Wales!

[@user-dragonball-i4y]

More Smooth looking in details , compare with previous generation ❤🎉🙃🥹 Would it be using 2024 🚴 🇫🇷 Tour France, at the end of June /2024