Are SMGs Worth Using In Escape From Tarkov?

[@JesseKazam]

How often do you use SMGs in tarkov?

[@tylervolentine1286]

Only in factory occasionally.... and honestly, only when I get them off a PMC. Otherwise, I sell them for the $$

[@Entrepreneurr]

Nice face tan :-D

[@Entrepreneurr]

I'm just beginning to use SMG's. I generally go 5.56x45 or 7.62x51. I have found the laser shooting and fire rate on the SMG's to be just as, or even slightly more effective than the larger rounds.

[@skmo7072]

I run pp19 all the time on interchange with Luger - it works and you always get it back

[@coolguy-qu2su]

SausageDealer look at the newest 9mm ammo, 2-3 shots thorax with a trooper on

[@witcher9917]

Hey man, another great vid. Would love to see something similar on pistols.

[@ProfessorMoolaGaming]

5.7 best pen.

[@baka8693]

5.7 is the only pistol worth using, if not that, an m9 with 7n31 would be second best.

[@MM-lo6vb]

Schaackmire YT glocks are pretty fun and decent

[@gabecarter4623]

@@MM-lo6vb only worth the 18c tho

[@estebancepeda4532]

PP19 and the MPX can destroy even sweaty gamers. Low recoil = Easy headshots

[@shayhildebrand337]

mp7a1 all day everyday, I keep a fully stocked weapons crate suppressed, shift/cobra grip, magpul FS/RS none stop. 40 round mags, half FMJ half AP. Your comment about expectations is bang on - I never play mid/far with them and do my best to always close distance if i'm forced into a fight. Laser beam close range shredding is my jam.

[@seanmitchell3803]

I've used 6.3 against level 5 armor and it shreds. With it doing as much armor damage as it does and the rate of fire the guy I shot didn't have much time to even fire off a single round. So 9x19 is still useful even in late wipe.

[@jibb1451]

8:49 . . . that was the dirtiest play I have ever seen in my life. Bravo man. hahaha. Great video to btw.

[@truuuupR]

I quite enjoy using the MPX and MP7/9. I find I have to play very carefully with them, knowing I need to engage in very close quarters to get the most out of them. They aren't as versatile as AR's but they certainly pack a punch up close. Typically high fire rate with very low recoil with almost no investment is good enough for me to rock one every few raids. If I'm loading in to go to dorms, I'm normally rockin' an SMG. Nobody seems to pick them up off my body when they kill me as well.

[@Frost-yw9sz]

New guy to this channel. Love the way you express yourself calmly. You seem like a genuine nice guy. I decided to sub

[@Rapture9999]

Jesse the PP19 is the gun I’ve DESTROYED THE MOST PMCs with. It’s an insane smg. People sleep on it

[@abellsatime378]

for sure, headshot machine!

[@nyuszicsib]

I'm LvL 31 and just now started to use more frequently the PP-19. With reflex and silencer, it's a very cute and underrated weapon.

[@CezaryDubaj]

I run the Rolex trade pp19 because on my lowpop server it's a ridiculous value

[@Rapture9999]

Cezary Dubaj what server?

[@cH4iN123]

@@CezaryDubaj You do know the Flea Market is cross server? That trade is basically trash

[@pagannova3621]

the PPSH is one of my favorite guns, since it came out. "A can of angry bees," and so it is against flesh..not armor though.

[@phreakyeggz]

I just killed 5 space marines in the resort with an MP5 and 7N31. That ammo has very near stats to M855A1. MP5SD is good to go out of the box. Love it

[@ajristow1547]

Mp9-n gang where we at

[@korassssssss]

Pp19 is absolute monster, I've got 2 of my shooter born in heaven headshots using it so it's a gun you can do anything with, just requires practice to learn how different 9mm rounds act at range as they are relatively low speed. PP19, Osprey 9, butt pad, b10, rk1, ekp 8-02, 90 rounds of 7n31, 90 more of AP = combo that can put down anyone.

[@calvissuperman]

New secret meta: mpx with new 7n1 ammo. You can get recoil down to 23 with barely any money spent, with 41 round mags. It's insanely good, don't tell anyone

[@Hentai_Master_69]

first - 7n31, second - default mp5sd has 26 recoil and it takes 50 round mags. This is really good weapon, but 7n31 is locked behind prapor lvl4 and you can buy only 90 rounds per restock, and of flea market one round costs 3500-4000.

[@lazerdog345]

It’s trending on my Twitter now I told a lot of people

[@longlivetheknot4589]

The mpx is an absolute shredder, my only issue with it is sometimes, it doesn't ever give basically any notification your hitting your shots with it until the enemy is dead, so sometimes you'll doubt yourself about it.

[@Bobylein1337]

I love the MPX because the ease of modding but the most important thing is that it got very cheap 41 rounds mags.

[@CapFlipGaming]

How much are they?

[@Bobylein1337]

@@CapFlipGaming 7-8k or something

[@antmax]

For a newbie to Tarkov these get me the most kills and survivability. Every time I take a Mosin out I miss medium shots and only hit relatively stationary distant ones. Often I get surprise rushed by a scav and die. SMG works great close to medium. I even surprised a party and took out two 20's players and a 50-70 player pretty easily. I keep taking them out because they are cheap and usually end up surviving with them through multiple raids where AK's and Mosins get me killed and often don't come back with insurance. So so far the SMG's have been best bang for the buck for me, great accuracy and lots of 2nd chances vs long rifles when in semi auto mode. I think the ammo I use is mostly 9x18 PST from Prapor.

[@antmax]

@DimitriBoi I have been keeping my eye on that stuff. But I'm not Prapor level 3 yet and they are 500 rubles each on the flea market. The PST is only 48. When I unlock Prapor 3 I can get the PBM for 119 which is much more doable :)

[@redbread3522]

This might sound crazy, but I use mp5 on woods and it works super well. It's cheap and has no recoil and always wins against snipers in close quarters. Of course, you have to change your playstyle for this. Know where to go and avoid open spots go from cover to cover and try to caught snipers early off guard. (once killed guy "head, eyes" first minute and he had REAP-IR thermal on he's fully kitted M1A)

[@redbread3522]

Avoid Sturman if he's ingame, otherwise, you can check safe and truck for the purple keycard.

[@BiPolar417]

What ammo you use for that?

[@MeatzB]

Bi-Polar Bear always go ap or pst gzh

[@korassssssss]

I'm doing the same, running woods with either mp5 or pp19, you can kill shturman with it too if you get close on him/catch him in one of the shacks.

[@abellsatime378]

Me: watches video some guy with RIP ammo: ok buddy ima leave you with 20 hp

[@xornedge8204]

Accurate

[@psyanide1603]

My first PvP kill was a lvl 40 streamer (not a famous one) who was running the MPX with RIP ammo. I was laying prone in the grass outside interchange during a night raid with nothing more than a p226 with basic crap ammo, guy comes sprinting past me, doesn't see me so I'm like ''Well..... a good a time as any'' get up and just mag dumped the 1 mag I had into him.... and he was geared, I mean helm with face shield, class 5 armour, the works.......... he nearly legged me but um.... one of my 9mm rounds managed to pierce his face shield so.. um.... yeah...... he was mad for sure lol.

[@plaguepartyy]

Just used an MPX, MP9 and MP7 last night and realized how crazy accurate they are so for budget options, I think specific SMG's are totally viable.

[@punkerguy805]

Ive been running the HK mp5, lvl 4 armored rig and weenie helmet... All and all it's like 180k+ ammo ferda whole kit. It's my go to cqc budget RN.

[@plaguepartyy]

@@punkerguy805 I'm torn between the mpx and mp9. Pretty much effective distance vs rate of fire. But same pretty much, except I'm usually wearing a lvl 4 helmet unless it's a budget run

[@ItsTheSausBoss]

This dude has telepathic mind powers I swear. I was thinking about using smgs and trying them out and turns out he just made a video on them

[@ЯБезымянный-о5ф]

For me MP5SD is like the first love. I may move on to assault rifles, but this baby is forever in my stash. With 26 recoil it beats all the other 9mm guns hands down. MP9 may spew 300 bullets per minute more, but it's recoil and low magazine capacity wont guarantee high total damage per mag. With MP5SD you just point and hold LMB at anything closer than 50m.

[@Knight-brolaire]

ppsh is a monster for leg meta. Even the cheap fmj ammo just shreds legs.

[@ThePhantom712]

I use Smg's close to 50% id say i mainly take the kedr in night raids. MP5 or MP9s in lab raids. I remember in the beginning i used the Saiga 9 to kill scavs, and 9mm forces u to do headshots which i like because u dont dmg the armour there wearing.

[@Bluntman-J.P]

Nice seeing someone speak some sense about other weapons, doesn't always have to be the best weapon or ammo, just has to be about how you use the weapon and ammo in the current situation!

[@Turtlezzzzzzzzzz]

SMGs are slept on. PP-19 with a few mags of PST GZH is the god tier budget gun. No, you're not gonna be dunking PMCs at the fat loot spots, but you can wipe up scavs no problem and make consistent bank with good safe loot paths. Also it comes back on insurance 95% of the time. MP9 or Kedr is my go to backup when running bolt action snipers. M700 + MP9 on Shoreline or Woods, ooo so good

[@testprobe9940]

7N31 MP9N = PMC Team wipe everytime

[@giantsweet1472]

My current weapon of choice is a suppressed APS with a stock, using PBM ammo.

[@klaxenflatter8864]

Basically half the SMG breakdowns were like: pretty decent early wipe but would not recommend late or mid wipe. :)

[@mrspuge3039]

idk mate ive just done 3 raids in a row killing 3- 4 pmcs with mid to endgame gear and the mp5 shreds them lol

[@klaxenflatter8864]

@@mrspuge3039 yeah, I meant that more for the smgs like the PPSH rather than 9x19 which has really kickass rounds like 7n31 and ap6.3

[@hahanew]

@@klaxenflatter8864 yeah just like any gun, depends on ammo. HK416 gonna be trash too if you're using trash ammo. MP7 is one of my favorite guns with good ammo. Doesn't matter what they're wearing when you can land 15 straight headshots in like half a second lol

[@mrspuge3039]

@@klaxenflatter8864 ok i got ya

[@idkaustin2577]

Mp7a2 is wild my guy at any point in the wipe

[@jarnvag1564]

I’ve been stocking up 7n31 ever since it came out, I’ll but 90 of them for 45k ever time I can and I have an entire mag box full of it

[@ukaszanioowski9722]

pp19 + blue laser + peacekeeper grip + prapor sight + stock rubber pad it all comes to about 40k or so, and it feels and shoots great, not the greatest, but a cheap weapon that will come back in insurance about 75%, out of 10 of these i made, 6 came back, and 3 were stripped of some mods, only really losing one of them to a player scav basically at spawn

[@punkerguy805]

HK mp5 w/ AP63, cheap gun with no recoil, ammo can be expensive but it's comparable in price to other calibers. One of my favorites.

[@zeph6182]

Thing about AP is you can get it for 3$/round from peacekeeper and get 250 rounds of it, and 30 pen can 2-3 tap most visors, and most SMGs shoot very fast. Considering a lot of people run the VSS I think people sleep on the SMGs hard especially with budget options like the MP5SD.

[@RingstedHedge]

2.69 USD a round from peace lvl 3

[@idkaustin2577]

Love the mp7a2 and i liked it before the ap sx buff, i liked it before it was cool

[@jarnvag1564]

I really like the PP-19 and prefer it over any other SMGs and I know other get less recoil for less money but I just think the PP-19 is just a really dope gun

[@gun_ape]

You forgot to mention the mp5 sd reduces velocity and IRL

[@thebaron1979]

Great video Mr Kazam 😎👍 I love the 9mm options and you've just given me more ideas! Let's shred 👌

[@skmo7072]

Excellent vid, been waiting for some insight into smgs

[@dic-vr2mx]

PP 91 kedr, kedr-b can't use PMM ammo but klin can. This is because klin was designed to be shoot high pressure ammunition.

[@eliasl332]

Can someone explain why he has 4 scops on the gun at 8:36 ?

[@SenTrixAmv]

How do you buy the MP5SD from peacekeeper?

[@b3an581]

MP9-N with RIP ammo to destroy legs is my fav thing to do. Def will get a MP5 SD and try it out. I picked up a MP7A2 from a crate but the ammo cost seems way to high for my current level. Overall though I seem to have the most fun with these guns.

[@utahnl]

I tried several smg's in the last few weeks and they just dont work for me because of the awful hitreg with full auto weapons, i pump a mag in someones head or legs and they just shrug it off and one tap me. Not to mention the full auto bug where your gun just randomly stops firing and goes click on a non-empty mag. I went back to semi-auto, at least that somewhat works.

[@FlashmanVC]

I have found an MPX Carbine (14” barrel) is an incredibly powerful weapon as long as you have drum mags

[@IlsuemOkosch196]

very nice informative video, good work!

[@SuperslyNinjaguy]

Kurz (pron: Kurtz) it's german for "Short". A lot of German firearms with the K letter are just cut down from other models. Including the famous Kar 98K, where again the k stands for Kurz-short

[@SoupTurtle16]

only issue with mp9 is that the 30 round mag cost more than the gun itself if u dont have access to traders

[@bekeex]

YES, I use them with a mix of 7n and AP. Mp5 k 50 rounder under rated ;) and rips also love the mpx 20 recoil XD.

[@echmil823]

When u talked about ur yt channel on the pogcast it gave me my inspiration to start my yt channel. Thx jesse

[@RageFuu]

I run mpx, mp9 and pp-19 alot on interchange to kill the juicy m4 squad loaded with loot lol

[@blxxm.]

bro your intro is so professional I'm always looking for the skip ad button thinking its an ad

[@ryanvandoren1519]

Good shit dude. Keep up your current level of work and the subs will be rolling in. Always enjoy your content.

[@amongstus4418]

Crazy how OP the vector is

[@jeffreymelton2200]

What about the Vector 9mm and .45

[@jeankazamer9166]

Hey Mate look how our name sounds similar! ahha awesome content as always mate!! Keep it on! :)

[@icancutarug8296]

you're doing god's work Jesse

[@rebelraiders99]

Earned a subscriber, how do you not have more subscribers you definitely deserve them with the content you put out

[@DragonBallStrike]

before even watching the video, yes they are but you gotta run the new ammo (7N31?) if you wanna take down juicy bois, AP 6.3 if thats all you got, beyond those two either RIP leg meta or go home and get an M4

[@samuelw4492]

“The 40 round mags are pretty expensive at 12,000” my visible pain when I realize they’re like 75,000-80,000 now

[@sandiablo7268]

When will next wipe come?

[@fidgetwidget9116]

Underated Channel

[@jeankazamer9166]

Between i just completed a similar smg test while learning the weapons and if we are kinda low level at recoil skills, MP5 and Vityaz are much better recoil pattern wise than all others mainly because of the fire rate.

[@Tobihorror]

Amazing content as always 👌🏻

[@SaberAlex]

with the release of the vector. 9x19 is now a meta

[@Hickology]

FMJ SX and a MP7 is bae. 7n31 and the MPX is king.

[@adoormarkedpirate378]

New to the game. Do they announce the wipes? And if so, do you lose ALL your stuff in your stash? And if so, do you just sell everything before the wipe?

[@impyrobot]

Wipes are months apart and you have weeks notice it keeps the game fresh everything gets reset but it's fun dw about it for now :))

[@adoormarkedpirate378]

@@impyrobot gotcha. :)

[@breadman2983]

dude the new 9x19 ammo is class, its better than bt. I love it so much.

[@CoffeeFresh_]

20k for the mp9, that could make it a decent secondary weapon.

[@SwanChairUh]

Or primary if you're a rat like me. :)

[@sqike001ton]

Yep I like to run a smg as a secondary when I run a bolt action ppsh and PU mosin is fun

[@norbertbrilliant8548]

im an ammo saver, so realy shooting vise with other weapons, but when i got mp5 and pst gzh ammo, sprayy !. and it drops any geared folks from any angle "

[@nicholasstone2911]

You are so awesome dude. Always be sincere my man

[@movementplanner8919]

You say the MP7 isn't meta but the amount I rip off bodies says otherwise... But there were loads of videos about it being meta fairly recently so people will keep on using it. Smgs are definitely viable but as you said it's dependant on the play style/objectives and enemies faced. I love an mp5sd with ap or 7n31 on reserve because you can slap the pistol and hatchet runners while standing a good chance against kitted guys with enough cover on reserve to fall back if you need to disengage.

[@tiboleurentop3615]

Here caus i don't know what to do with 20 stacks ap 6.3

[@jimstephens21]

I enjoy the SMG but the ammo seems underwhelming sometimes. Even the 7N31 can be tough to work with

[@thepunisher9928]

Love mp5 sd with drum mag

[@BiPolar417]

What the best 9mm ammo??

[@fresque]

7N31

[@TPinso]

Jesse be talkin as fast as SMGs shoot

[@17_jager37]

Yes, because every bullet higher than 9mm gives me an uncomfortable feeling.. even when I see someone and he doesnt, Iam trying to sneak up because I cant control the recoil ^^

[@mrspuge3039]

hey mate just took this in to interchange for a quick money run and killed 2 full meta hk boys with killa and altons. i think i found a new fav mid tier gun lol edit: forgot to mention i used the mp5SD with ap and 7n3n

[@TheDrewSilver]

Always love your videos Jesse, congratulations on the new kiddo! 😎👍

[@FallenActual]

EFT the 3 letter simulator... VAL or MPX

[@MrAwsomeshot]

yes they are next question?

[@cgnomazoid]

You have the voice and mannerisms of a doctor or dentist that you really want to have. Thanks for the consistently awesome videos!

[@ThermalPizza7]

so true lol

[@danielrko9895]

that's a weird compliment

[@nahfammmm354]

I really love this game and play it a lot, but I just can't get good. I always feel like I'm getting stuck on corners, in doorways, on walls, etc. And out in the open I can't seem to acquire targets unless I'm already sitting still and already ADSing. I'm getting old and my brain doesn't work the same. I just can't get a handle on the gunplay and movement mechanics.

[@thehumblecough4819]

Use a mouse with more buttons so you can focus on just moving with your left hand

[@rodriguezangel62]

Haha. How come You didn’t include getting jumpshotted in that labs raid 😂

[@lupe323]

Gotta make himself see good

[@teslatoilet3853]

i usually play offline raids with scavs as im too scared to lose my gear and i dont find dying quite fun like you do lol what do you think i should do? should i just use all my gear and say screw it? or should i just stick to being a coward

[@savageshrimp4568]

the way around close range snipers is baby moist but I do run some smgs however just they can be super unreliable good early wipe but nowadays all people who use em really fuck up

[@MrRobschnieder]

Generally its the price of the attachments, ammo and mags that keep SMG's out of the game for me. Most of the mags for SMG's are locked pretty high in the traders and by the time i get higher up in levels most people are already rocking t5 anyways where SMGs really fall off. And at that point i just rock m4s in place of SMGs with m855a1 being the best available ammo.

[@ryanvandoren1519]

I agree, they should maybe add the maga to lower level so people can actually run them. Noticed this with alot of weapons. By the time you get the usable stuff, better stuff is available

[@neowin6329]

The BIGGEST PROBLEM with 9mm - for most 7N31 - is still the FUCKED UP ZEROING. Since you still can't zero in negative direction. Since most 9mm guns like the MPX got the PST GZH as standart ammo, wich is nearly HALF the speed of 7N31, its nearly pointless to use anything else then a Belomo on it (only sight with 25m zeroing), since else you def. will shoot above your target on 25m or further. So all these nice mods for better accuracy are kinda useless... and make it a CQC weapon only. :'-(

[@Vorusen]

Played shoreline and someone was tearing me up with a super kitted mpx. Thought he had an m4 buy it was just a dope mpx good ammo

[@jross1798]

I run mp5s In customs all day and destroy all day. It's been a favorite the last couple weeks

[@CssHDmonster]

personally i dont think so, 9mm is too expensive to run with ap/7n39, the makarov 9mm is pretty good with the pmm round being basicly cheap ap 6.3 and ofc mp7 is meta and great , leg meta is good in theory but it makes u play like u shouldnt play any fps by focusing legs, which are rarely visible

[@charlestheel2925]

7N39 is only 450 roubles and shreds. True, buy limits mean you have to continually check to see if it's available but if you stock up while running other weapons you will amass quite a bit of it.

[@milat9287]

"There's 4 9milimeter SMGs in the game" Proceeds to showcase 5

[@MensRestroom]

Smgs with good ammo is crazy and with the mp9 no match

[@bareloots9488]

how are you level 50+ already??? iv just about to get to level 10 for the first time been playing for about a week now. savage

[@psyanide1603]

Can't wait for the devs to make dropping down 20 ft actually do something other than just give fractures, sould be broken legs making it impossible to walk forcing you to crawl prone. For a game that holds itself up as ''realistic'' it sure seems to allow for a lot of call of duty plays.

[@Diicto]

I don’t even want to mod an HK... MPX is so OP now!

[@Felnyght]

i ve always had more success with SMGs withits accuracy and RoF, Along with alot of fights happening within the 25-100m.

[@kamilprzybylski5116]

PP-19, silencer for 11k, recoil pad for 3,5k, Quakemaker, Interchange, here I come

[@Salfriel]

Another fantastic video from the pizza party master! Guess I’ll be rocking some smgs these next days.

[@matt-jc4ly]

He is correct tho... if your not using 7n31 for the top half of your mags and AP for the bottom DO NOT BOTHER USING 9mm

[@ryanrohauer5940]

why did the pp19 get laughed at i love that gun i use it over mp5s