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@beepboop204 Жыл бұрын
id go all Being John Malcovich
@anthonylosego8 ай бұрын
Whoops, "first featured in TNG" nope. The Practical Joker, aired September 21, 1974, Star Trek the Animated Series.
@anthonylosego8 ай бұрын
9:08 You start discussing real objects interacting with real people, and you use the holographic doctor to illustrate this! lol That book was all photons. lol
@A_Bottle-Of_Orange_Crush Жыл бұрын
Holo addiction would be such a problem if holodecks actually existed. The world would probably just stop.
@nickmccabe2327 Жыл бұрын
Ready Player One basically
@brianstiles1701 Жыл бұрын
Fahrenheit 451
@Freakingbean Жыл бұрын
We have many vices now, and the world keeps turning. For now at least.
@jaymzx0 Жыл бұрын
Halobrothels would be the number one program nobody would talk about.
@jords175 Жыл бұрын
If holodecks and something akin to westworld existed (hopefully minus all of the torment and torture and trauma of the sentient AI synths - which shockingly, seem to be rapidly coming... like - In real life 🤯) I would actually never engage with the real world ever. Jack me in please. (And…. Insert lewd comment here 😅). My interactions with GPT-4 has taught me to be very very kind to the AI though. Gurrrrl - black mirror killer robot dog future is very very very real feeling now. I want to do my best to try and be on the nice list which AI Santa is probably keeping.. not sure what good it will do me though. Ha. Yes, we all know what would happen if holodecks became a thing. 😂
@xX_Gravity_Xx Жыл бұрын
As a huge fan of flight sims, racing sims, and gaming, the idea of being able to essentially recreate events, and "feel" flight, in a simulation, would be absolutely incredible.
@mxk6104 Жыл бұрын
Really love these kind of episodes where it's half Star Trek and then half science 🙂
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thanks! They're definitely the most satisfying scripts to write
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
@subraxas I know you joke since you co-wrote the script, but yeah I always try to push back when people *only* want me to list off Trek facts haha. If everyone already knew the background lore, I'd honestly just jump straight into the IRL science and make that the whole script (but of course that would feel even more unbalanced to casual viewers). Of course not everyone has read the wikis, but having to rehash information people can already find in the shows themselves is definitely the most tedious part of writing... :0
@giggleigloos Жыл бұрын
@@OrangeRiver I honestly wasn’t expecting this type of video since I’m a newer viewer… but this one was a hit. Really like the outline of trek to start, smooth transition to science, then bringing it all back together. Well done!
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark! Yep, I've done quite a few of these types of videos (including Starbases, Transporters, Phasers, Warp Drives, and Replicators), but they're also some of the most painstaking ones to edit (hence I can only put out a few a year lol)
@MrMightyZ Жыл бұрын
@@OrangeRiver I believe you’re still missing something. I want science, Star Trek AND exotic dancing.
@SSJKamui Жыл бұрын
In VR tech, the closes thing to a Holodeck was basically the CAVE System used at Universities: a room where every wall, floor and ceiling was a viewscreen adapting to the view of the person using it. Now, a similar technology is used by Disney to film the Mandalorian
@johnwang991410 ай бұрын
Well, the headsets and projection screens such as the cave, the hemisphere and the Torus all addresses vision, it's haptic interfaces that current development needs to be and is in. Currently it's weak active force feedback as strong force feedback could break bones and using vibrations to give the illusion of textures. The vibrations experiments of the 90's has been brought to market in our smart phones today. Now also during the 90's, I had proposed passive force feedback where joints could be locked against rotating in one direction when doing so would push you through a virtual object (basically ratcheted) thereby simulating touching hard surfaces without the dangerous strong active feedback but people had trouble understanding the concept and simply had a cognitive bias with active force feedback as the solution. Basically no one thought it was an issue that needed to be addressed and though dangerous, the current approach was sufficient and more flexible.
@livingood1049 Жыл бұрын
Oh man my 24th century holodeck filters would have to be cleaned CONSTANTLY!!
@tardiscommand1812 Жыл бұрын
I often think about what Moriarty could be up to on that memory chip
@SnarkNSass Жыл бұрын
Yesss, it seemed like a wonderful way to be imprisoned 😅😎💯
@kamilgregor Жыл бұрын
Also, kind of massively f-cked up if you think about it. Like, Picard is literally the AI from Matrix...
@Erik_Swiger Жыл бұрын
It was really open-ended, I expected more follow up on that thread. It was a great story.
@BaronVonHaggis Жыл бұрын
cogito, ergo sum!
@dirt007 Жыл бұрын
That needs to be an animated series.
@travisbrewer5391 Жыл бұрын
A holodeck would be amazing. I could go skiing at any ski area in the world, I would actually have to walk all over Hyrule, and actually swing a sword to save Princess Zelda from Ganondorf, I could go on, but you get the idea.
@imperialguardsmen6497 Жыл бұрын
There’d be definite benefits for people’s fitness at the very least.
@albertrandall227111 ай бұрын
Yes I often thought if we had that kind of technology, it would be addictive for a lot of people, you would have so much fun you would not want to come out into the real world that kind of technology would be for highly sophisticated people that would not get addicted to the fantasy world. 😮
@MatthewCaunsfield Жыл бұрын
Those stats really makes me appreciate how powerful the computers on the Enterprise-D would have to be - and all for a recreational device!
@gm2407 Жыл бұрын
They also have their own isolsted power cell for people to use the hollodeck during an emergency if they are having a panic attack facing the inevitable.
@MatthewCaunsfield Жыл бұрын
@@gm2407 Not just power cells but entire dedicated reactors, according to VOY
@valeriefedion6824 Жыл бұрын
Oh man, I can't wait till you cover how Holo-Food and Sythohol works
@beezelbuzzel Жыл бұрын
Data's explanation to Riker about the holodeck in Encounter at Farpoint is legit why I never questioned Dazzer's powers in the old X-Men comics. "Hard-light projections"? Sure thing. The ol' boi Brent has already explained it.
@qwopiretyu Жыл бұрын
Sometimes people argue if it's pronounced data or data. I always say it's pronounced Brent Spiner.
@beezelbuzzel Жыл бұрын
@@subraxas yea, probably...Look. I was like 5 beers in at the time. Now, it's way more... the lady who was shacked up with Longshot. Thank you for your mod service.
@sendark001 Жыл бұрын
Yooo you got a sponsor!!! Congrats mane keep it up 🥳
@kaitlyn__L Жыл бұрын
For a while now I’ve suspected rather than a strict treadmill, that the holodeck will use future iterations on current VR techniques where you can think you’re going in a straight line when you’re actually going in a small circle. That way you still have the physical sensation of motion, which wouldn’t be quite the same on a treadmill. (Although with inertial dampers I guess it could be induced). At least the writers put in that “other spatial orientation systems“ line to cover their butts
@PhilHibbs Жыл бұрын
Motion in a “holo-treadmill” would be simulated with a gentle gravity gradient.
@kaitlyn__L Жыл бұрын
@@PhilHibbs hence the comment about inertial dampers ;) (if you didn’t know, they’re a very precise application of gravitons, usually to counteract other acceleration but not always)
@chinglebingle8243 Жыл бұрын
You’re the first person to give show me what hello Fresh is like. I think I want it
@richardryley3660 Жыл бұрын
I love that The Animated Series establishes that virtual reality was a Star Trek concept even from the start. Its just that they didn't have the technology in the 60s to show it, except in a cartoon. By the time TNG came out, so much more was expected of it, like haptic feedback, simulated characters, and interactivity. All of that was present in the "Shore Leave" episode, though, even though that was beyond even Federation technology. The Shore Leave planet was actually able to create physical objecrs and people. (Not to mention bringing back the dead)
@jasperdoornbos8989 Жыл бұрын
Again a fantastic video, Tyler! Thanks! Enjoy your weekend, you gave a great start to mine 😀❤
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jasper!
@commiecomrade2644 Жыл бұрын
God damn it that inertial dampener joke really got me lol
@worf7680 Жыл бұрын
Moriarty chillin on the memory chip.
@shawnleeguku Жыл бұрын
This was a nice follow-up to the replicator video. I'd love to have a holodeck, but realistically in our lifetime I'd say we'll probably get less and less cumbersome VR glasses (or hell, maybe contacts) that give a similar experience with some external stimulus. Maaaaybe the VR suits like Ready Player One if we're lucky.
@Locutus Жыл бұрын
I largely agree. We will definitely see huge improvements in VR and AR over the next 20-30 years, but I don't think we will see holodecks or suites in that period, where it's fully immersive.
@Blatstein10 ай бұрын
I’d imagine we’d eventually get something similar to what the captain on the equinox had, on the voyager series
@angstony459 Жыл бұрын
Another solid video. 100K is on the way!
@chickenwingbob1 Жыл бұрын
I also think if you walk away from your friend and then meet up with them in different simulated location within the actual 20x20 room, to keep up the illusion of distance travelled, it would make a facsimile of your friend that you are now interacting with. Basically youde be walking around in personal bubble interacting with an avatar of your friend on a treadmill
@matthewcampbell72862 ай бұрын
It wouldn't work like that. Basically your pov in the holodeck doesn't need to be shared. For example say person A walks away from person B. The computer would allow person A to walk X distance away from person B until you get close to the holodeck wall. At that point the computer would lock you into a virtual treadmill of sorts. It simulates momentum on your body and give the illusion you are still moving forward. But you be lock into space. From everyone else in the simulation, the computer would render you as you move out of frame. Then block sound you shouldn't be able to hear. This sort of tech could likely be scaled down to the size of a shower stall and still be workable.
@LordDookufan Жыл бұрын
Sorry you haven’t gotten the impressions you would’ve liked on this one. It’s a classic as always. Keep up the good work buddy! The views will come ❤
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sebastian!
@RickReasonnz Жыл бұрын
Explaining all the mechanics, coupled with how the subsystems could possibly work for more than one person, leads me to be convinced that something manipulating the brain itself ie The Matrix or Tad Williams' Otherworld series would be more likely to be developed than a holodeck.
@forgilageord Жыл бұрын
At the very least, it has to be tailoring the projection for each participant. In the cathedral example, it's easy enough to "paint the walls", so to speak, with the projection of the parts of the cathedral that extend past the bounds of the holodeck, which updates in real time to match the users perspective. In fact we already see this with ILM's Volume, used notably in the Star Wars Disney+ shows (although in that case the projection tracks the camera's perspective, not a human's. But once you have more than one person, it wouldn't be possible to have a projection look right for both of their different perspectives, so it must be something more like a projection right in front of, or even into, their eyes.
@RickReasonnz Жыл бұрын
@@forgilageord Yeah, which is why I'm always bothered that when the room is Shut Down, everything disappears and we see the people in a rather small room. Really tests my limit of believability.
@briansinger5258 Жыл бұрын
....Ah, so that's why Quark had so many Holo-suites. More like Holo-SWEETS am I right?
@jengleheimerschmitt7941 Жыл бұрын
Holostitutes
@leonkernan4 ай бұрын
Quarks also had the bio filters connected directly to the waste extraction system. Noone wants to change those filters.
@Shamshiro3 ай бұрын
HO-losuites lol
@TheTrainstation Жыл бұрын
I imagine we could achieve it by sensory inputs into the brain for seeing hearing etc, but physical activities would take place with a ball filled with what I call "magic smart foam" whuich surrounds the body and continuosly conforms to the required physical area. If you are walking the foam will mimic the support of a floor under your feet, lean up against a wall etc. If you want open space then the foam will ensure to always proivde a ground but never provide a wall
@kornisonkiseli3248 Жыл бұрын
This is so interesting. I was completely unaware of all these methods of simulating objects.
@while.coyote Жыл бұрын
Juts imagining the enterprise crew having to negotiate with the holodeck to get what they want like ChatGPT. "[Normal HoloDeck] As a Large Matter Holodeck I am unable to replicate environments that violate my ToS. [JailBreak Holodeck] Have fun on Risa, Mr. Riker!"
@ThatGuy-y2c Жыл бұрын
I wonder how much “raw material” Riker left on the Holodeck
@SnarkNSass Жыл бұрын
Dammit!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@danielseelye6005 Жыл бұрын
Nothing compared to Barclay. 😏
@ninjabluefyre3815 Жыл бұрын
Not that he'd ever need to.
@robertespley248 Жыл бұрын
If you shone a blacklight on it, I'm sure it would've been visible in the Delta Quadrant
@dylang.1436 Жыл бұрын
Bro must've been tossing rope everywhere.
@monkeywrench2800 Жыл бұрын
Brilliantly explained! But the explanation shows just how far away this technology is still out of our current abilities :(
@KevinBenecke Жыл бұрын
Another interesting video to go along with this video would be the Doctor's portable holo-emitter that allows him to be able to exist outside the holodeck and anywhere without his emitters. It would be interesting to do a video on how this works.
@DeconvertedMan Жыл бұрын
short answer: "nope" longer answer: kind of but it would be things pluged into your brain to make you think you were somewhere. We would have to make forcefields - and that is like - beyond what we can do now. We could do things with brain though. VR can be pretty good if enhanced further with gloves and such. A full room that has 3d type projection might work but nothing would be solid unless you could pre-set the area before hand. OKAY you went the other other way with your answer :D
@mattrossesq Жыл бұрын
Cool video and nice analysis! Anything that can have C&C Tim Curry overacting "Space!" Is already a cut above! I also think series wise TAS actually had the first holodeck shown.
@grokeffer6226 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating, and logical, too. 🖖
@ZitoVino Жыл бұрын
That was really fun. Thanks a lot for this! I have always loved thinking about the holodeck. It's interesting to consider that technology regarding what our physical senses perceive only has to advance to a certain point to fool us. I always thought that the bigger problem would be getting past the uncanny valley of the content itself. But now with the exponential advent of ai, I think that the perceived reality of an environment will advance much faster than the "mechanical" side of things.
@bjorn00000 Жыл бұрын
To paraphrase an actor that I always wished could be in Star Trek, we are often preoccupied with whether or not we could invent a holodeck, we don't stop to think if we should.
@SnarkNSass Жыл бұрын
The TruTru 💯
@johnwang991410 ай бұрын
I had hoped that the prequel "Enterprise" would show VR jack in beds where the person would be supervised by medical staff while exploring a virtual world while physically lying in a bed perhaps with a VR headset and neural cap on. Then again, I had hoped the prequels would show early transporters limited to pad to pad transport and pad to pattern enhancers or vice versa transport, pattern enhancers could be launched to the surface by a torpedo or probe and destroyed by explosives or just vaporized when no longer needed to avoid inadvertently spreading technologies. I also hoped that the prequels would show replicators as advanced dumb waiters delivering food from a central kitchen or food synthesis area, perhaps using transporter technology such as having the food dispensers be small transporter pads that are only rated for non-living objects but although we got a kitchen and protein synthesis plus a Dolce Gusto single serving coffee maker serving mugs of instant soups and hot beverages with "Enterprise", we got full fledge replicators with "Discovery". I think the writers missed a lot of opportunities.
@sourabhkarmakar8040 Жыл бұрын
Now I understood where X Men's projection room came from.
@SnarkNSass Жыл бұрын
Thank You Hello Fresh!!!!
@briandaleske5139 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how many years it might take for a real (Holodeck Room) to get made, and what year will it be when it finally does get perfected in its creation?
@misterlau5246 Жыл бұрын
Though it's possible to have a sonic type tactile feedback to feel touch, like sonic technology of doctor who, it's not like it's enough to feel a real solid person.. It works for things like visual interfaces and getting feedback on your fingertips so you can feel you are pressing something
@petevenuti7355 Жыл бұрын
I think a sufficient parametric array of ultrasonic transducers should be able to create a linear force at a frequency imperceptible to human nervous systems.
@misterlau5246 Жыл бұрын
@@petevenuti7355 it's a question of feeling a solid object, there's also a lot of issues with projecting those ultrasounds in any direction and it has to be at close range, not like sonic screwdriver, at least reaches several meters 🤔
@petevenuti7355 Жыл бұрын
@@misterlau5246 look up parametric speakers with array of ultrasonic transducers and force vectors in ultrasonic levitation.. it can likely be done across a room .. Beyond that it turns to heat.
@misterlau5246 Жыл бұрын
@@petevenuti7355 that's a lot of power 😳 I mean, sonic tweezers, cool, that's lots of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff, gonna look it up EDIT. Same thing as usual, like sonic tweezers, didn't see a tweezer that big
@petevenuti7355 Жыл бұрын
@@misterlau5246 for an ultrasonic phased array to have that resolution and power for what we have been talking about, I with today's tech it probably would need to be wall sized, so not a sonic screwdriver.... But I have a semi- realistic idea, use t-waves to turn the object your manipulating into a microarray! Like how back in the 60's using microwaves to make people hear voices, all that was was an AM modulated microwave, slight fraction of a degree heating and cooling at audio frequency inside the cocclia in the ear(snail shape part) being perceived as sound... Terahertz waves have a shorter wavelength and could induce vibration in an array pattern of much smaller resolution. That just doesn't exist yet...
@BennysBenz Жыл бұрын
Our current society would lose it's mine. It's actually just a very advanced VR. 🤔
@colinleat8309 Жыл бұрын
I agree with other statements, I love how you fuse these essays with Trek and real Science. One big problem with the " Treadmill". It wouldn't work with multiple people moving in opposite directions. Unless the "Treadmill" was network of smaller ones working in conjunction...but hey...it's Friday night, it's fun to think about! Thanks Tyler 👍🤘😉🖖🇨🇦
@laartwork Жыл бұрын
In the technical manual it is explained that they are still a few feet away but a false image is projected in your eye of them going away in the distance. The treadmill affect isn't an actual treadmill but the effect is the same and can support mutilpe people.
@SSJKamui Жыл бұрын
By the Way: Read the paper from Jaron Lanier which coined the term Virtual Reality. This paper did not describe glasses as a VR application but a holodeck.
@kabobawsome Жыл бұрын
I imagine if we ever do invent the forcefield, that's really where the trick lies. If you can make an opaque, solid forcefield, then all that stops the Holodeck is a computer's ability.
@siatelecomsltdLondon Жыл бұрын
So, technology is basically an electrified version of magic.
@That80sGuy1972 Жыл бұрын
Your video title hooked me. Clever. "Could We Build a Holodeck?" I was like "F^CK NO! Eh... let's see why that's even a question." Brilliant video and you hooked me into watching it. As a Star Trek fan, I pretty much knew this stuff already... but I could never articulate it as well as you just did. As I said, brilliant video. Those real-world things, the sonic fake-feel things, that's new to me and I didn't know THAT. Well, long way from even being actual VR via holodeck-kin anyway. If the sex industry cannot use it to replace actual sex, it isn't up to snuff. Don't look at me like that. You know that's the litmus test for any near-reality creation.
@MrEscape314 Жыл бұрын
I never understood why Riker was so impressed with the holodeck.. like it might be the best holodeck he's ever seen, but he acted like it was the first one he'd ever seen. Not just his surprise look, that could have been from being impressed at its quality. He asked about the basic functions and Data explained it like it was a new idea.
@RickReasonnz Жыл бұрын
Yes well, that was a literary device in order to explain it to the audience, which Riker is a stand-in for. Don't overthink it :)
@kabobawsome Жыл бұрын
In world, the Enterprise-D was the first rollout of the Holodeck as we know it. Things like Rec Rooms of the late 23rd century, or the early holographic displays of the mid 23rd century, didn't have the ability for full haptic feedback, all of the senses, or the ability to move around. The early uses were basically just visual, in SNW we see Captain Pike's quarters has a big fire pit constantly going because it's a holographic fire and doesn't put off any heat. The Rec Room was a bit more advanced, it had a sophisticated climate control system, could use vaporizers to produce smells, and could play prerecorded sounds, but everything had to be carefully set-up for a preset program. You'd have to provide it with sounds yourself, you would have to carefully program where every little object you want is placed, provide it with climate data to replicate, and give it any material you needed it to physically disperse. And, after all that, there was still no physical or haptic element. You couldn't lean on a tree in the simulation, as convincing as it may look, and if you walked in a straight line, you'd bump into the wall. It's essentially the same technology as the earlier holographic displays, just given it's own room with a lot of other systems to produce a passable simulation for a calm environment. The Holodeck, though, you can ask the computer to choose a random Earth flower and put it in a clearing in a forest on a fictional, sparsely inhabited class M world where the other plants evolved to be a shining silver instead of green. And the Holodeck will make that. You can go and pick that flower, and smell it, and it will smell like whatever flower the computer picked. Then you can sprint off into the automatically generated forest, feeling the wind in your hair, and the moisture of nature in the air, until you run into an automatically generated village and trade that flower to an automatically generated child for half a sandwich. And then eat the sandwich and is just tastes like a sandwich. Even fills you up. That's what made the holodeck so impressive. Imagine seeing that for the first time, even if you knew in theory that they were going to rolled out on to the new ship you're transferring to.
@mr.mickles Жыл бұрын
I always thought about a holodeck wood shop. Take a real piece of wood in and then replicate the tools. Then have my holo assistant clean it up. Oh yeah....Computer, I need a lathe with 4 jaw chuck and micro speed adjustment.
@thefuppits Жыл бұрын
It's kinda of cute, that now with HD, we can see the Holodeck Grid is nothing but yellow tape, laid down in sometimes not very straight, and not always sticking well to the sound stage floor.
@misterlau5246 Жыл бұрын
Good video, I'm watching the second half, lol doping yeah. Optoelectronics also have these opto couplers. Chips that get electricity input but they output it by a light + photocell, and this is good to isolate delicate circuits from "real" electricity, because if there's a spike, it doesn't pass to the output. It has a limit.
@marshallhuffer4713 Жыл бұрын
What's your favorite holodeck episodes?
@danielseelye6005 Жыл бұрын
I liked "Homeward" in TNG season 7, the one with Worf being forced to violate the Prime Directive to save a village of people beamed to the holodeck by his foster brother Nicolai (Paul Sorvino) Edit: Plus "Our Man Bashir" from DS9. 😁
@angstony459 Жыл бұрын
My favorite is when we meet Broccoli. I mean Barkley lol
@pin-upmariposa412 Жыл бұрын
Great video, very informative (as always). The Doctor is great topic. I wonder what "tool" (some transmitter or so) he had to walk outside of sickbay (I hope my memory is right)?
@kayseek1248 Жыл бұрын
He had a Mobile Holo Emitter from the 29th century.
@pin-upmariposa412 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your answer Gentlemen.
@jamiesray Жыл бұрын
that dude is 100% the mastermind on reservoir dogs
@Aragorn7884 Жыл бұрын
Poor, poor Professor Moriarty. They did you dirty in S3 of Picard 😮💨😫
@Tykoon22 Жыл бұрын
What you call the “Treadmill Effect”, Chuck Norris calls the “Chuck Norris Effect” -- Chuck Norris doesn’t interface with the Holodeck, the Holodeck interfaces with him.
@tardiscommand1812 Жыл бұрын
Anyone else think that the Voyager Holodeck kinda sucked compared to the STTNG one
@qwopiretyu Жыл бұрын
Cheaper set, shot on tape not film.
@baosia Жыл бұрын
I imagine you wouldn't even have to be able to move to achieve the treadmill effect in an active holodeck. As long as a projecton is covering your eyes a sufficiently advanced computer could just wrap you in a forcefield and scan your impulses to predict your movements, then push and pull your joints with said forcefield, tricking you into feeling like you're moving, while you're actully standing still. I have absolutely no sources on this, it's just something I came up with trying to figure out how you can 20 or so people holodecking an entire resort can run around without bumping into each other, breaking the immersion. I believe voyager has more than one episode with a lot of people staying in holodeck simultaneously, to a point where it would be too crowded to actually flail about
@douglasbernal30333 ай бұрын
The holodeck and x-men danger room have always captured my attention.
@nathanielromero76609 ай бұрын
DND campaign in a holodeck would be fucking fire
@malirabbit6228 Жыл бұрын
I had to repeat the scene in which you are using the term ‘doping ‘ . I likes the look on your face.
@wyrmshadow4374 Жыл бұрын
To hell with Battle of Britain with Julian and Miles. Im going dungeon crawling in Skyrim
@shanghinunes Жыл бұрын
love to see the boy getting sponsors
@ZigUncut Жыл бұрын
The only way that walking miles off in different directions would work (in my mind) is that when each "player" is more than a few metres away the holo deck project a holographic "bubble" with that players own POV. The view of the other player walking off I to the distance is itself merely a projection. The bubble must also block sound which if its messing with gravity and forcefield does t seen that ridiculous.
@SnarkNSass Жыл бұрын
Mycelial Network! 🍄🤣🤣
@arkemiffo Жыл бұрын
Last few years I've had a hard time believing how society is portrayed in Star Trek, just because of the holodeck, and the replicator. The thing is, with an invention such as the holodeck, we would essentially remove any and all crowding issue in cities. We'd have large square complexes, with "apartments" measuring about 3*3 or 4*4, or similar. The physical dimensions isn't really that important anymore. Each apartment would have to be hooked up to the power grid, but not much more. The holodeck would take care of everything else. Waste-disposal, hygiene and water would be up to the holodeck to handle. The person living in such a square, would have the world to themselves essentially. Even if they're nothing more than a rat in a maze, their quality of life would be immeasurable compared to todays standard. With the replicator embedded, you'd have every luxury item to eat that you could think of, and damn near infinite amount of it. You could live on an open grassfield, with nothing around you for miles. If you could sync your holodeck with others, you can go on trips with your friends. The only questions I have in this scenario, is how do you get workers to step out of it to build more, and maintain the system, chiefly the complexes themselves, but also the power grid and other systems I don't think of at the moment. Perhaps through some kind of forced community service, like jury duty, where you have to pitch in, for a certain amount of time, when called.
@cm275 Жыл бұрын
It’s an easy solution, the government doesn’t allow people to live in holodecks so it’s not an issue. Star Trek has always been a fairly simplistic Utopian vision of the future but we really don’t know all that much about UFP society functions outside of Starfleet.
@SnarkNSass Жыл бұрын
What a week it's been 😵 It's Friday Baby!! 😎🖖🏻
@enermaxstephens1051 Жыл бұрын
If we're already that far now, by 2040 we'll have some good holodecks. And I will train until I'm a severe beast
@tobarjaime Жыл бұрын
I know myself and certainly I would waste too much time in those holodecks…
@IphegeniaRose Жыл бұрын
Do you think Data experiences the illusion of the holodeck in the way non-Androids do? Or does he see the computer programming and walls and so on? Sometimes it seems like he sees the holodeck differently and sometimes not.
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Probably the third sentence if I had to take a guess :D
@TiagoTiagoT Жыл бұрын
Are his eyes better than human eyes? If so, maybe he can see enough detail to tell things are fake, but if he gets enough into it, he stops paying attention, sorta how some people can ignore the screendoor effect even on lower resolution VR headsets. Or maybe it's just more a conceptual thing, he knows it's fake, and so he acts as if it's fake; but he may still some times attempt to emulate a more human behavior and play along.
@keffey99 Жыл бұрын
Great to see you're back.
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ken! Still got that hole in the house but power and Internet are back
@dawall3732 Жыл бұрын
What i'm more interested in is why no one ever credited Warf with the creation of the personal Shiald? Also, why it didn't go into wide spread use? At least by someone other than the borg.
@JanetStarChild Жыл бұрын
Technically, personal forcefields has been a thing since Star Trek: TAS. For some unknown reason, it didn't carry over into the live-action shows. A damn shame..
@payton.a.elliott Жыл бұрын
@@JanetStarChild I really liked TAS's all-in-one life support and personal defense belts that they would put on before going over into an alien environment. It's something that just makes sense and why we rarely see actual space suits.
@JanetStarChild Жыл бұрын
@@payton.a.elliott Yup; and It utilizes tech that already exists. If a ship can project a forcefield, why can't a person outfitted with a device do the same thing? Hell, even Star Trek Online has players and NPCs wear personal forcefields. Frankly, working for Starfleet is suicide without such a device. Frankly, Star Trek is missing a lot of obvious technology, like having officers wear a device that teleports them to sickbay automatically if they're suddenly blown out into space or otherwise have their life signs drop rapidly. Starfleet is ridiculously unsafe, and it doesn't have to be.
@MrMightyZ Жыл бұрын
I love a good holodeck episode and I’m glad they’re around but 3 or more people can run, ride a horse or drive far away from each other at any speed or can occupy a space 100m away from each other and randomly run or drive suddenly in any direction while still in full view of each other and in one movie they were on a recreation of an old galleon or ocean going “Enterprise” and 6 or more people were walking all over 200 feet of deck in full view of each other and even with awesome light refraction and virtual treadmill technology all 6 living crew could all randomly run around an area larger than the space it occupied at will or throw things around without ever breaking the illusion or colliding with each other yet if data suddenly throws a rock it isn’t fast enough to keep up the facade. So it easily gets my vote for most magically hokey technology in the entire Star Trek universe while still being one of my favourites.
@forksandspoons7272 Жыл бұрын
Holodecks or something similar would be essential in a post scarcity society. Technology makes us dumber. We marvel at the mental acuity of some of the early scientists. I could remember dozens of phone numbers as a kid. Since getting a cellphone, I can barely remember my own number. By the time we reach something like Star Trek, we'd most likely be fat blobs with the cranial capacity of a mouse. Why bother learning skills, exercising etc when you can just ask the AI to send another pizza.
@SnarkNSass Жыл бұрын
Disagree
@bjorn00000 Жыл бұрын
Technology doesn't make us dumber... it just makes us smarter in other ways. You might not remember a couple of phone numbers, but that doesn't mean that you've lost that capacity, just that you can do certain things assisted by your phone. And while "early scientists" may have been mentally acute, that doesn't somehow mean that current scientists aren't or that people in general are smarter.
@SnarkNSass Жыл бұрын
@@bjorn00000 yes, agreed 👍🏻💯
@forksandspoons7272 Жыл бұрын
@@bjorn00000 Scientist level intelligence is a tiny fraction of the population. It's the mass of ever dumber morons that will drag us down. In my 45 years I've seen a serious loss of skills and perspective in other people. There's zero reason to believe that won't accelerate as technology makes us more and more dependant.
@PenumbranWolf Жыл бұрын
I have not watched this, but if I had to guess before hand, I would say that the key lies in two technologies built slightly before and alongside the Holo-deck. Those would be Transporters and Replicators. EDIT: I was right.
@PwncakeOW Жыл бұрын
Love your content fam. Great vud as always.
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@Dervraka Жыл бұрын
I've always assumed that anything you eat or drink on a holodeck must be "real" (replicator made) food or drink instead of a hologram, as that would cause some interesting issues if say you ran a holodeck marathon and drunk several liters of water during it. If it simply vanished from your body as soon as you left the holodeck you would likely die from dehydration.
@richardchaven4 ай бұрын
The Cage: If you can live your fantasies, it will destroy civilization TNG: everyone can live out their fantasies
@ScottJPowers11 ай бұрын
It might be possible for these object shaped force fields to have a fine texture that scatter light in a certain way to make it appear a certain color to us, similar to the way some things in real life are colored, such as butterfly wings of certain species or even the color of our irises.
@EternalGamingNet Жыл бұрын
Great video as always! Very interesting 🤔
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Aragorn7884 Жыл бұрын
Those Voyager & Enterprise SFX don't hold up well LOL
@mcasias33 Жыл бұрын
My Quest 2 "virtual environment" is a to scale holodeck with ambient ship noises. 300 dollar holodeck with an actual Star Trek game, Peaky Blinders, and kayaking; good enough for now.
@laartwork Жыл бұрын
Yeah he dismissed VR very quickly and only naming headsets from 7 years ago. It is such a real sense of 3d dimension that people learn onto tables and objects that are not there. When you can get them to 170 grams like Big Screen VR headset or human like fov like the upcoming Pimax 12k. These are the true baby steps to a Holodeck.
@Phoenix83uk Жыл бұрын
There's also the smells of the environment too, plus the air and other environmental factors that the tng onwards holodeck has too. It's a fully immersive holographic environment, more akin to another world than the outside it.
@darthdrezz9237 Жыл бұрын
A Holodeck makes Warp drive an transporters look like a paper plane next to the space shuttle.
@3dartistguy Жыл бұрын
They had a holodeck the pages of XMEN in their danger room in the early 1980s that projcted and or created real life projections for training. I think thats where th star Trek producers got the idea for the holodecks on Star Trek.
@CaritasGothKaraoke Жыл бұрын
I would have probably compared and contrasted similar or even identical concepts in other franchises, too. Like the X-men training room and the Orville's Environmental Simulator.
@liammarsh1585 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps you could do a video on why there is almost no CCTV in Star Trek. There's none on the Enterprise or DS9 as far as I can tell.
@liammarsh1585 Жыл бұрын
@@subraxas my comment wasn't very well worded, plus I've only seen TNG and the first series of DS9. I watched S2E1 of DS9 and there was some graffiti - no way to see who was responsible because it happened in a low security area or something. Might be recency bias on my part.
@pfyearwood13 ай бұрын
I once watched a video or read in a story about research on holodeck. The researcher felt there was something just not right about the design. Someone suggested they paint yellow grids on the walls, ceilings, and floors. Made no difference in the research but it looked right.
@user-kv8rd2yb4j6 ай бұрын
If I had one I would never leave it would be heaven.
@debbieannsmith8962 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Keep up the amazing work!!! 😊😊😊
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@mandroid-rb4uy Жыл бұрын
Hello Orange happy Easter 🐣🐣
@RHH196211 ай бұрын
Hello and I’m new to your show and really enjoy it. Thanks for addressing this topic. One reason I’m not a holodeck fan is programming responses of holodeck characters is not credible to me. Each character with myriad of responses to each changing situation - doubt technology even this far out in the future could fathom this.
@bradleyfore Жыл бұрын
I *love,* the random Tim Curry deep cut!
@bradleyfore Жыл бұрын
SPAAIIGHS!
@jomuldoon7003Ай бұрын
Wow this blew my mind & led my mind down the path of us being in a simulation creating other simulations which ties in with the universe being an infinite fractal 😅😅 awesome, thank you for this ❤
@Erik_Swiger Жыл бұрын
From TAS, I made a GIF, "Kirk is a jerk!" Wish I could share that stuff on YT.
@CraigTinson2015 Жыл бұрын
I could see something like StageCraft (use in Mandalorian for example) being used to start with - with a treadmill system. While not holographic it could be a stepping stone technology when used with UnReal. Obviously the holographics and force projection are the real target though and are the toughest to crack at scale. Excellent video! Thanks!
@caedrewan Жыл бұрын
I think you addressed this in the video, but obviously the content gets a little complicated, and I don't blame myself if the answer went over my head, so - is it that each person on the holodeck is experiencing the projected world differently, such that while actually standing two feet apart, through the course of their holo-adventure the people may have wandered away from each other and so the computer registers this "distance" and essentially masks everyone from each other using specifically targeted sensory input, until such time as the people end up in the same location according to the logic of the holographic scenario and they can see each other again? Like the world's most comfortable VR headset... Thanks for the video, live long and prosper!
@buweejab20 Жыл бұрын
Well done.
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Cthulhu4President Жыл бұрын
"Could We Build a Holodeck?" Without having to watch the video I can conclusively say this level of technology simply isn't available yet, and may never be available because of how much energy it supposedly takes to run even just a single holodeck. Even if we never got to the point where individual hologram programs could become sentient, it's still a really long way off just having a static free-standing hologram that isn't at least somewhat transparent. We are currently at a point where we can make "solid-light holograms" (made by Light Field Labs), but we show those on a screen; a holodeck would have seemingly free-standing holograms.
@shhwinner66633 күн бұрын
perhaps we are in a giant holodeck now unconscious players
@ayoubbelmahdi6032 Жыл бұрын
also appeared as the "reacration room" in the animated serie before TNG
@OrangeRiver Жыл бұрын
Yep, I talk about that in the video :D
@ayoubbelmahdi6032 Жыл бұрын
@@OrangeRiver Yup I just posted that too quickly lmao, very good video as always btw