Are the Conservatives the new UKIP? | PoliticsJOE reacts to Tory conference

[@Lukas-e6x1s]

The current Polish Government (Far Right), current Hungarian Government (Far Right), current Italian Government (Far Right), current British Government use the same approach towards LGBT. It is used to distract people from current issues such as raising prices, harder living standards, no new houses etc.

[@fang_xianfu]

Didn't they recently remove parental rights in Italy for same-sex couples who had adopted? Like, not just block them from adopting in the future, but went back and retroactively removed those rights from people who had already adopted? Pretty disgusting.

[@ince55ant]

theres only so many hours in the day to report on whats happening, its a game of filling as many of those hours as possible with nonsense

[@giansideros]

In Denmark the right over there are demolishing social housing on the premise of getting ridding of ghettos and assimilating immigrants. Meanwhile, private property developers are going to replace the social housing, and rightwingers are so gullible and spiteful that they're applauding it, it would be karma for them to suffer a property bubble but not all Danes supported this idiocy.

[@MrTimg12]

I think you're right. All these wedge issues that emanate from the Tories /right wing media like ULEZ or culture wars , emotive but meaningless labels like woke or outright xenophobic rants about immigration, are all pure distraction politics to hide the fact that 40 plus years of socioeconomic neoliberalism has been a total failure. It's made us a broken, Brexit backwater. The financialisation of the finance industry , for example, leads to 80% being reinvested in insurance, property or finance. Similarly with corporations, where trillions of dollars are merely steered into share buybacks to enrich shareholders & senior management. Very little is reinvested into productive industry/infrastructure. So we end up with a low pay, low growth, low productivity rentier style economy that benefits the few . There are huge issues with wealth inequality and related issues of inadequate housing , health provision , education , justice, environment , local government, lack of tax reform etc and they're getting worse under the Tories . To disguise all the fundamental problems of this type of rapacious capitalism, where there's been a massive transfer of wealth from ordinary working people to a tiny asset owning class, the Tories / Reform & the asset owning right wing media play distraction politics. This is the only card left to play for the desperate Tories and their paymasters after 13 years of mismanagement. Meanwhile the US pump primes the economy with its IRA economic development funds and the EU has its Green Deal Industrial Plan - billions of dollars of state investment that will encourage private investment to drive future growth etc. We've just had the Tory conference and what are their grand economic development policies in response? To cancel HS2 , the incoherent re-heating of old transport plans , the watering down of net zero commitments, banning tobacco smoking for 14 year olds as they age and further education disruption with the awful title of the British Standard Qualification where maths features up to 18 years old . This hotch potch of policies is risible in the extreme and shows a party totally bereft of ideas other than the status quo.

[@PoldarkGodzilla]

Even is far right to the crank left 😂

[@aituk]

They've outlined some of the major problems we face but for 13 years have done absolutely nothing about them or let them get worse.

[@fang_xianfu]

And then said that we deserve better and they're the party of change 😂 If we deserve better, what has Rishi been clowning around at for a year?

[@RedSntDK]

They did start the HS2.. And then decided "you know what? if it doesn't complete while we're in power, then it's not worth it" It's reminiscent of the Ugandan politician, Evelyn Anite, that took back the ambulance she had donated because she didn't win the election.

[@alandraper7901]

That's not quite right and shortsighted. Without mentioning the cost to the UK brought by the pandemic They have dealt with massive inflation due to the affects of the Ukraine war. Making decisions that have countered the banks' lack of confidence and proving all so-called experts wrong. Now, they are winning that battle. They have reversed the trend of creeping unemployment. The economy has now regrown so much that the British economy is in the top 3 in the G7. It's not bad considering the lies from the labour party and the MSM about what a mess we're in. The British GDP is greater than France and is amazingly better than Germany. With a population of over 84 million people. Rishi Sunak was right to brag about how well the UK is doing their decisions have been spot on. The interest on the national debt has proven to be a problem, and that's why tough decisions have had to be made.

[@roderickjoyce6716]

I disagree The Tories have been very active for the last 13 years, they've been causing most of the major problems we face.

[@aituk]

@@roderickjoyce6716They've either caused or allowed to happen most of them now I think about it.

[@segue2ant395]

You flatter them. The Tories right now couldn't even imagine reaching UKIP-levels of credibility.

[@mytimetravellingdog]

At least UKIP had a goal when they were UKIP however utterly destructive and stupid that was. Now the ukippers have taken over the tories they're just purposeless made reactionaries with nothing. No goal or vision for anything.

[@matthewm5074]

They achieved there main/only goal you do know that right? You might not think there credible but enough people certainly did my friend. Insults and jibe don't change that. The way people talk about them they don't care as there no longer needed as they got what they wanted. Use your energy on reversing it by the Democratic process not on them

[@user-rk3oi8bi4u]

Caroline Nokes is my MP and I'm so glad that of all the Tory MPs, I was born in her constituency. Being trans is a minefield in the UK right now, so I'm lucky that I'm represented by someone who sticks up for myself. (I can't say much on her position with immigration though)

[@alankenny8650]

Looking from afar, she seems to be one of the few sensible ones.

[@rodericde876]

The new UKIP or the new BNP?

[@albertbrammer9263]

There was always a thin line between those two.

[@JoshuaMSP1995]

The BNP wanted (want if they're still around) an all-white Britain, so they certainly wouldn't want a brown-skinned PM.

[@maxine2798]

Ukip is BNP in a cheap suit rather than an MA1

[@Kraken0000]

It's all part of the same evolutionary path: BNP > UKIP > Reform > New Conservatives? The far right has been incredibly successful at consolidating the racist, senile and incel voteshares and it's only going to get stronger in the foreseeable future.

[@alextw1488]

There may be a faction of Tories who don't think it's the role of politicians to pontificate on people's sexuality or gender and would overlook it in a friend or colleague but I think the typical Tory party member has always and probably will always be bigoted and if a woman who' was trans turned up at a local meeting they would be hostile at the very least behind her back.

[@SashaGrace94]

This, 100% this. They can overlook it in cases when it suits them, as evidenced by the LGBT MP’s that they have but when it’s someone off the street the gloves come off.

[@BONK_2000]

I think they only tolerate minorities when they support the conservatives.

[@paulroberts7544]

Isn't that a bit of a bigoted comment? Conservative people are by definition traditionalists. Many are religious (Islamic, Christian, Jew etc) - and as such cannot embrace ideas that go against their religious beliefs. Is it bigotted to be religious? To believe in a greater power and to follow what you believe to be their teachings? In both Labour and Tory party there is a mix of libertarians and authoritarians. The libertarian half of both parties fights for individual freedoms - for the right to live as you see fit and to speak freely. The authoritarian half want to tell everyone what they can and can't think/do/believe.

[@BONK_2000]

@@paulroberts7544 If your religion causes you to hold bigoted views then yes, it is bigotry. Also it's bad analysis to say that there are equal wings in both parties that can be labelled simply as 'libertarian' or 'authoritarian'. For instance there isn't really a 'libertarian' wing of the conservative party anymore, all of the one nation tories, who can hardly be described as 'libertarian' in the first place, were kicked out of the parliamentary party, the tories are essentially ukip-lite now.

[@GaryTaylor-gp2qc]

no i think if she talked logic and sense i think the centre right would accept it

[@jo044o]

You guys are just brilliant , you made me laugh out loud and be really angry at the issues .Just great , thank you !!

[@GaryTaylor-gp2qc]

they make me laugh too !

[@mytimetravellingdog]

That video of the young tories.... That's not safe to play without a warning. Those are dangerous levels of cringe.

[@davidwilson1171]

Another excellent podcast.😊 Love listening to you chat about the issues of the day. Keep up the good work. 👍

[@mbdlav]

God guys that intro needs to change..The content is great

[@Cotonetefilmmaker]

oh man, Ava, the UKIP or Tory game was Amazing, thanks for that.

[@tobybryan8622]

I am british-american and have moved to london 2 years ago. Unfortunately I see that the conservative party in the UK is going the way of the Republican party in america. You say that you don't know Rishi is a neoliberal or a culture war first politician. The reality is that conservative parties in USA and UK simply cannot run on anything material or any actual policies because they are so deeply unpopular. Reagan and Thatcher may have been able to confuse people with their trickle-down magic in the 80's but the reality of their policies are all around us. Crumbling infrastructure, skyhigh inequality, and corporate monopolies running rampant. So, rather than abandon their core conservative principles which ultimately boil down to cut taxes for myself and my corporate cronies as much as possible, they have to do anything but speak about policy. Transgenderism, homosexuality, grooming children, war on cars, anything. The one thing we can't afford to happen is to have a spineless Labor party simimlar to the Democrats in America, where they do nothing but block progressive movements and line their own pockets. Looks like its already happening though. Rishi Sunak will not make it but I do worry for what is gonna come in the next 10 years for the UK political scene.

[@PoldarkGodzilla]

Zzzz

[@GaryTaylor-gp2qc]

is that the democratic party that have gone insane ? i must admit i thought trump was horrific certainly at first but the democrats have destabalise the world

[@jamesdowning-green4514]

I think in response to the Trans comments its not that someone named Rishi said it it was the fact the British Prime Minister said it. I would recommend Micheal Heseltines New's Agent interview to show what happened to the party.

[@spacechannelfiver]

Rory Stewart summed it up fairly well, they'll lose the election and put Braverman in charge. She'll just go full on batshit at the Government from opposition then in 5-10 years the Tories will remember they like to be in power and moderate themselves.

[@callumgordon1668]

How does an ‘advanced British Standard’ work when a distinct Scottish education system is protected by the Act if Union and Scottish education is entirely the purview of the Scottish Parliament? Just more deflection.

[@margaretnoakes9868]

Quite.Why not call it Advanced English Standard ?

[@daws6909]

Will you be at Green Party conference?

[@Stuboy]

The Tories are like watching a wounded animal who needs putting out of its misery GE

[@zoedaisy1499]

But but but all you Corbyn fanboys told me better to have a true blue than a red Tory and you also told me Hamas good Israel bad

[@deeps2169]

The Tories spawned UKIP in the first place after Maastricht

[@PoldarkGodzilla]

So we should have open borders 😂🤪🤡

[@PhillyThug]

Politics have done nothing but gone further right since I was born(aside from gay marriage, and I'm 30). I'm super pessimistic about things ever getting better.

[@kdog4587]

I'm 32 and couldn't agree more. I worry so much about the world my little boy will grow up in :(

[@JoshuaMSP1995]

Equalised age of consent, minimum wage introduced, school leaving age raised, devolution, section 28 scrapped, fox hunting banned, smoking hidden and taxed out of existence, renters' rights increased....all moves to the right?

[@sfshinz]

“Don’t swim in the tank if you don’t know the tuna” is pretty good life advice.

[@kevinbyrne5265]

I don't like the turn JOE has taken, as if you've watched too many American talk shows, the cheering and jumping around at the start and the personality stuff, it really is puerile. This 'conversational' set up is boring and like I said on this comment page before the type of conversation you get in a pub, it goes nowhere, no focus and after I write this I'll turn it off, please grow up and act like adults and leave your egos at home. Bring back interviews with people like Tariq Ali, really brilliant man and not this silliness, leave that to the Americans.

[@poshiesymons666]

Id say theyre the new BNP or NF

[@willyhill7509]

No because the Tories have drastically increased immigration, UKIP would have (hopefully) reduced it. Obviously UKIP are the exact opposite to the Tories.

[@nickt9167]

It's also not my choice to be subjected to passive smoking. Smoking is also now the biggest cause of death and illness in UK, the strain it causes on the NHS is immense. Totally disagree with AVA on this issue.

[@hollyd8989]

Where do you think the NHS gets its money from?

[@nickt9167]

@@hollyd8989 what's your point? Does it justify the encouragement for people to choose to smoke or not?

[@IanBourneMusic]

UKIP were never this right wing.

[@TheMercifulKnight]

Farage has always been a Tory, look at his financial roots. He's a liar just like them and will happily be Tory leader if he is paid enough.

[@chriscorben-green2640]

The UKIP policy for drugs when Farage was leading the party, was that they should all be legalized. Tories still keeping the war on drugs failure going.

[@alfsmith4936]

To be fair to UKIP, they did expell people when their mask came off in public..

[@vacurrie79]

Smoking bans are absolutely a public health necessity!! To pretend that it’s a personal choice that only impacts the individual is ridiculous. Breathing in your second-hand smoke is NOT my choice. Workers and patrons should never be subject to the air pollution you decide to create in public spaces. Canada has had smoking bans indoors, on restaurant/pub patios, and near public building entrances for at least two decades. Business hasn’t suffered, and quality of public life has definitely improved. Smokers can still chose to smoke, but they cannot chose to blow that smoke into others’ lungs. And I don’t know why we would fight for children and adolescents to have freer and easy access to known poisons and carcinogens. I’m not an advocate for prohibition , but to claim that children and adolescents are fully capable of making reasoned or rational choices about the use of extremely addictive poisons is completely insane and disingenuous.

[@razr274]

Ava is a smoker though..always showing her bias..

[@thislizardkills5771]

Ava and Ed are the ones

[@DavidH175]

The new 'advanced british standard' comes into play in 2033/34 so it will not effect students who have been upheaved by Covid/exams. I assume labour will not adopt this policy so it will not come into existence anyway. Bizarre policy making to say the least.

[@CravingBeer]

Sunak talked a lot about change. There's one change most of the country wants after 13 years of Tory rule, but he didn't mention it.

[@IoannisCrouch]

Really love this channel. Best thing online right now 🎉

[@AYoutubeAccountName]

General observation of avas comment on the personal choice to smoke and how the better way to reduce lung damage would be to reduce air pollution. This thinking stuck out to me to be in contrast to her stance on XL bullys. We know that second hand smoke harms people. We can make laws about where to smoke but there will be smokers smoking in the presence of non-smokers for as long as people smoke (clearly you could also argue that this is almost always a choice on the part of the non-smokers). Therefore smoking is not limited to the individual. The risk of owning a poorly trained XL bully falls mostly on the owner but sometimes on members of the public. A cigarette or xl bully could both give an individual happiness. Then in the same way that the government could focus on air pollution instead of smoking, they could focus on criminal gangs instead of xl bullys. The argument before was that government should be able to handle big and small. Personally I default to "your freedom to swing your arm ends at the next guys face". People should own xl bullys but be punished for the act of allowing them to be aggressive towards members of the public. People who want to smoke should be allowed to smoke unless they force others to be in the second hand smoke. And both of these policies exist to distract from a failure of political leadership

[@WhichDoctor1]

A closer analogy to banning XL bullies would be the government banning a particular type of cigarette. After all no one is talking about banning all dogs. And people who want a dog companion after a XL bully ban can still find one that is just as loving and loyal, just in a slightly different shape. So the banning the sale of a particular breed of dog is a different level of intervention than preventing an entire generation from smoking tobacco entirely. And while second hand smoke is still an issue, it's still confined to people who spend time near smokers, and there are already laws in place to reduce that significantly. While air pollution is something that affects everyone who lives in towns and cities, which is most of the population. And while you are right that governments can do small things like reducing smoking and large scale things like tackling air pollution at the same time, the current tory party are not. In fact they are making a big deal out of opposing their flagship air pollution policy as too interventionist, while pushing forward with smoking limitations on an entire generation of people. That shows a mismatch in priorities that is fair to point out. Btw I dont smoke and dont much like being around people who smoke. I'm in favour of further smoking restrictions. But because of that dislike, i don't inhale second hand smoke very often. But i like walking and cycling when im able to. And living in the middle of a town and next to a railway shunting yard it is impossible for me to avoid breathing in a fair amount of air pollution

[@AYoutubeAccountName]

@@WhichDoctor1 really interesting response to read, thanks for taking the time. Sounds like we live in a similar kind of town. I think what I was struggling to understand was the mentality that leads to you condemning the ban that affects you but accepting the one that does not. Your point on the scale of the ban (a subset of a thing vs most of it) is how you can rationalize one ban over another. Though it does beg the question why the ban is exclusively on XL bully's because if it was a really dangerous dog, the police would be using it but they're happy with German shepherds. Although again maybe bully's are hard to train. And as an aside, do you think the scale of the ban actually matters? If you grew up with XL bully's or you recently lost your family pet that was an XL bully, you might not be happy with second best. That's a pretty significant life change for those people. Then for people who can only get nicotine vapes (which maybe are still legal) they might not get the tobacco flavor or smell but they still get the effects. It's a big life change but I don't think people have the same connection to their nicotine delivery system of choice that some do with the breed that's part of the family

[@tersecwalsingham5778]

Young Tories? Were they lost? No, they just knew from a young age they had the boot on us and want to keep it that way.

[@test-bu8sw]

To be fair young lefties are the most delusional, snotty privaleged brats, just as easy to hate quite frankly. They all think they are on some moral crusade.

[@adamsboringvids]

Tbh I’d be more disappointed with my kids if they became Tories than if they were in prison.

[@col.hertford9855]

Advanced British Standard - ABS - aka the “Advanced Breaking System”. Seems to fit the ideas Tories ideas of educating the masses…

[@alandraper7901]

Small wonder I call you Politics Joke. You just proved me right.

[@JoshLikesFuzz]

BIG ALAN BIG VIEWS

[@alandraper7901]

@@JoshLikesFuzz How did you know I was called Big Al. Hmm

[@LordBillington42]

For me, this all started taking root when the BNP leader was allowed on question time around 2008. I was naive and thought that he would show how hateful the right is and they would be shoved further into the periphery of politics. Instead, I heard a lot of 'he has a point though' and 'somebody needs to say it as it is'. I think it's been a race for the bottom since then.

[@PoldarkGodzilla]

Of course if your on the hard left everyone who wants control of borders is now far right 😂😂

[@benshaw5910]

Been saying that they are for over 6/7 years now… worse thing about it is that Labour are now basically the Tories, they’ve both shifted massively to the right

[@selfpreservationsociety]

Really hope so , they got the working class vote definitely, keep smashing the snob leftie

[@tonners.pettitt9938]

Some of the potholes are so large in Northamptonshire that they're actually dangerous to life, clipping one at speed will have your car over, it is beyond a joke

[@kaleeyed]

Great podcast guys, but I have to correct you, train from Manchester to Bradford is 52 mins to an hour 12, not 30 mins. Or you could go to Leeds, and cut the journey time to 51 mins!

[@jonstewart464]

Thanks for discussing the transphobic dog whistle - as you say, it hasn't been covered much

[@Michael-r6m5u]

The truth Is transphobic. I wish they could just call themselves lady boys like they do in Tyland no one has a problem with them because there not down right liers. If someone has a chull there a fella.

[@jamesthomson4998]

'i don't have a choice to breathe pollution ' but not even thinking about second hand smoke because she smokes.

[@darkangel9171]

Glad someone else picked up on that 😅

[@lunaangeleclipse9745]

As child whose parents both smoked heavily growing up...yeah I'm gonna have to disagree with Ava on that point. Second hand smoke sucks ass.

[@kkhera3730]

Great podcast as always 😅 👏🏽 ❤

[@darkheart2000]

I do think think Ed and Ava's practical suggestions that commuters should simply take HS2 and then private jet to Bradford to be the obvious solutions that Downing Street technocrats have failed to grasp; however (as people who do not live in the in locality) they have failed to notice the obvious flaw that this will, in fact leave you in Bradford and then what are you going to do?

[@Bengully]

A big problem with the education system is that schools can't afford to take on more teachers which often results in relying on long term supply teachers and increasing the work load of teachers already there which is a huge factor in teacher quitting the profession.

[@GaryTaylor-gp2qc]

plus all the woke b.s , and kids allowed to be out of control i'd suspect

[@pandemoniumgaming6344]

Love you all so much and hate the Tories as much, wish I could be in Liverpool for the live pudcast but hopefully I can make the next one.

[@Borris2313]

Joining the Tories gives Farage a term in opposition to rise to the top of the Tory Party - start threatening the big 3 or the leadership. He is more than capable, and many Tories would jump at finally having something approaching a strong leader figure

[@mildlydispleased3221]

I find it ridiculous that so many on the left oppose the Cigarette ban, is is because it's a Tory proposal? Less people will take it up and it will certainly save the NHS money in the long run. Even if a black market does appear; it will be miniscule compared to the amount of current smokers.

[@HunterOfArtemisMtF]

This is such a good podcast 😂 "Can i talk about pot holes?" Burst out laughing

[@m.j.nicholls]

All this pubcast was missing was a 20-minute conversation about beavers.

[@nickpage7333]

‘How does having a diverse front bench, chime with culture wars?’ Racism, sexism, homo/trans phobia is not confined to white people, men, or straight people. These people are Tories first and foremost, they will recruit from those groups to avoid those accusations, whilst pushing policies that would make Enoch Powell blush. Whilst Labour doesn’t have this show of diversity, when elected they will have a majority of female MPs and a front bench not mostly from public schools. Arguably that’s more important.

[@blackaddam9033]

It was not just Farage's influence. I'm sure the Tories employed Australian Liberal party bigwigs. Tony Abbott definitely influenced their strategy on small boats.

[@nickgreetham4810]

Good product placement with the drinks 👍

[@willhazelwood6169]

Would have to disagree with Ava in the smoking policy, I agree that individuals should have agency to make choices even if detrimental to their own health but habitual habits like smoking put an enormous burden on one’s health and further the health service. Now the same argument is equally appropriate for alcohol which would be another discussion to have on the uks relationship culturally to alcohol, I just don’t see how engaging in an activity daily, or even by the hour for some, that can be so damaging isn’t something that should be curbed by public health policy.

[@Putnamsmif]

One can only hope, because remind me how many MP's UKIP have had?

[@julianwarr7246]

Why would Farage want any kind of role where he was actually responsible for fixing something? The idea is laughable. Whining and grifting is his gig.

[@mrdaveythebaby]

He'll become Tory leader after the election.

[@julianwarr7246]

@@mrdaveythebaby he could easily be if he so chose. Would his desire for power be outweighed by his fear of actually being responsible for outcomes?

[@mrdaveythebaby]

@julianwarr7246 that's why he'll wait till after the next election.

[@WhichDoctor1]

The Tories proudly take a stand against the nanny state that has no plans to tax our meat because it would be such an infringement on our freedoms if someone ever decides to do it. While also proudly proclaiming they’re going to nanny state smoking out of existence. What’s the difference? The difference is the smoking thing would only affect young people and Tories are big supporters of removing rights and freedoms from the young. But hate any policy, even nonexistent ones, that tell middle aged or older tory voters what to do in any way

[@GaryTaylor-gp2qc]

eating meat in moderation isn't proven to be a health hazard even low level smoking is , low level alcohol is fine too , as far as passive smoking !

[@EamonCoyle]

Advanced British Standard (ABS) - putting the brakes on education !!

[@stpirate89]

I started the train to be a teacher - I had an undergraduate degree in physics, and had lots of experience with teaching and tutoring maths and physics. I was asked to do loads of biology and chemistry teaching. Doesn't make any sense.

[@joeleonard-walters1589]

If Farage got a seat, as you guys discussed, what's stopping him from running for leader. I think he'd be nailed on favourite if he stood. Grim.

[@GF_MF]

Since the run-up to the Brexit referendum, then yes.

[@philmckay9973]

garage as a Tory for two terms gets him a pension for life…

[@JoshuaMSP1995]

He's already got one, hasn't he?

[@IvyCottageIndustries]

Fab.

[@ScotGardi]

Was the bet on Bim Afolami?

[@nightlordAL]

They sure are

[@caelrooney4021]

one of the bizarre indoor smoking ban side effects was that it made smoking in many outdoor smoking shelters illegal, so all the smoking shelters disappeared too

[@washboo]

~ 10:20 On the sugar tax, I can't drink anything with aspartame in it, which is in most fizzy drinks besides full sugar coke, pepsi, red kola, etc. I have to pay extra to not get a debilitating migraine from my drinks. I get why they added it, but surely there's a different way like highlighting the amount of sugar/sweetener in a drink?

[@stefanlamb1179]

37.20 - A majority of Tory MPs voted against the equal marriage act 2013, including the at the time Home Secretary (and later PM) Theresa May. It passed because Labour in opposition voted for it. Now everyone thinks the tories were pro-LGBT during the Cameron years, but not really.

[@kizfrancis1838]

Suella Beatermen makes UKIP neo-nazism look mild.

[@hg82met]

Worse than UKIP. At least with UKIP, you know where they stand. This lot is more mendacious and devious.

[@theeviljames]

That first clip is so cringe my soul almost left my body...

[@matthewcook9404]

Yep.

[@Then.72]

WHAT !!!!!!! I voted for UKIP but never voted for the Tory party and never will do

[@KSweeney36]

An issue at the moment is the amount of kid’s missing school. Giving them more time is education won’t help this. A change in the school year/holidays would help this more and be a bigger impact. My daughter has just started and is doing 3 A levels, if it had been more school and forced English and maths, she and many others would of hated it

[@straitJacketFashion]

18:30 Eva don’t put yourself down, Myra had an iconic headshot.

[@tabbymoonshine5986]

It's REALLY harrowing being a trans person in this country currently. Fucking hell.

[@jimxvx332]

I hate nonces. Am I in the right place?

[@theanimaticalmanac]

Welcome brother.

[@GiveMeBourbon]

Only if you also love beavers and smallholdings.

[@segue2ant395]

@@GiveMeBourbon And trains! (I like trains)

[@jimxvx332]

@@GiveMeBourbon Fucking love beavers mate. Actually used to live in rural Canada so saw them in the wild - their construction skills are unparalleled.

[@trevfindley]

​@@segue2ant395I'm a trainsphobe, but I hate nonces. Can I still watch?

[@trippymchippy8586]

Leave that bottle of water alone man ;)

[@jonsteele7445]

I wish!

[@tobywhitehead7488]

Ava, you're wrong on smoking. People don't start smoking because they like smoking. There's no downside to this.

[@rabidbigdog]

Ava, you can get patches for that .....

[@nickinman6025]

Just wanted to say .. Ava you are absolutely stunning and so far above lozza the bellend's league that he resorted to crassness and childish observations to make a point that made no sense at all. I think your intelligence makes him feel a bit inferior him too. Keep up the good commentary and fantastic work you do promoting the left and values that are vital for future of our country. High five mate! I know im a bit late with this comment as its yesterday's news, however i felt it was important to say.

[@ziggy772]

Lmao you yourself just passed comment about her looks whilst condemning Fox's comments, which weren't even about her looks, but her misandry. Btw she ain't gonna shaggy you mate 🤣

[@nickinman6025]

He said no one would shag her. That is surely a dig at her looks? Lozza fan boy oh dear....

[@ziggy772]

​@@nickinman6025Really? Even if they're a misandrist & say that men are viruses..basically saying men are inferior to women.. You'd still wanna sleep with that woman because of her looks? You're not coming across as very bright mate 😂

[@razr274]

​@@ziggy772Think the word you're looking for to describe that bloke is "cuck". How embarrassing for him 🤣

[@razr274]

​@@nickinman6025🙈 cuck 🤣

[@RDHamel]

been trying for five minutes to catch who is terrified...

[@sparking2016]

Do we sometimes forget one of the most basic tenets of conservatism & it's supporters. If you are vaguely posh then you see the party as being vaguely posh & is therefore your natural political home. I used to argue frequently with a good conservative friend & in the end that really was all he had.

[@Feeshgmod]

It's your choice to smoke but the taxpayer has to cough up when you get cancer

[@straitJacketFashion]

If the tax on tobacco was hypothecated, allocated specifically for the NHS, the the revenue would more than cover the financial costs.

[@mrdaveythebaby]

Preaumably smokers are also (unless they are wealthy Tories)

[@marcgains6605]

Everyday, I look forward to my emigration to Australia. Few months to go.

[@davidbates3057]

Gonna throw my hat out there and say that I think Ava has it spot on with what the Conservative Party is about. I don't begrudge people being concerned with the culture war or wanting to fight it, but if you're being realistic, it is a largely media manufactured drama in order to keep the working classes either fighting among themselves or scapegoating one another for their own economic woes. Yes, rich white people are likely racist in predominantly white countries, just as I'm sure rich black people are racist in predominantly black countries. The main difference between them and your average talk show call in racist is that racist rich white folk hate poor white folk more than they hate rich black folk. For all their flaws, these people are fully aware of their class consciousness in a way that many even in these comments aren't. It's why even when they are in power you'll see dog whistles and platitudes towards defeating the minority scapegoat of the day, but in terms of what the party achieves, most of it boils down to tax breaks for the millionaire+ class and lucrative contract handouts to oligarch businessmen. And until the majority of the electorate wake up to this scam and start fighting for their class rather than their self-perceived identity, there's not really much hope for change.

[@Yrevnoc]

Multiple conservatives approaching you at the conference to say "I disagree with your opinions but I enjoy politicsjoe" is the most fascinating thing to me. Like what opinions do they disagree with? James OBrien always probes any listener who says that to him about his show and it's always some form of "where you believe we should extend human decency to channel migrants or trans people, I don't".

[@МаксимЛяшко-и3ъ]

Why should native British care about those who comes to their country illegally?

[@rickylequesne3745]

I didn’t think this woman liked comedy. But she doesn’t mind being on this comedy channel.

[@ziggy772]

She's like that Supertanskii woman who thinks she's a comedian & politician all in one. Two of the most gobby, unfunny misandrists out there right now. They seem to think misandry makes them cool, edgy & attractive 🤣

[@django3422]

Is this your own attempt at comedy? Or does this pass as being clever for you?

[@TimesFM4532]

They should do that with ukip thing with story minsters

[@ritaobrien7617]

Ed is so right about the transphobia!

[@test-bu8sw]

Most people who vote tory know they are inadequate. That says more about their opposition qute frankly.

[@mateobartra1502]

Not gonna lie, having people doing maths and some more reading up to 18 is a great policy. But it has to be phased in over 5-10 years, not doing it radically. Staffing as Ava said, is a priority, yet another reason to phase it in. Doing it 1 year before an election would not work, do it when you get a new mandate once you win an election with such a good policy. Also someone doing maths, english and building as a technical course, that would surely be great for someone who at some point decides to change and do engineering, business or something like that at uni? More diversity of studies *within* courses.

[@Ghengiskhansmum]

They don't seem to have a problem with gas, oil, old cars and boilers spewing out pollution on an industrial basis but see tobacco as a major health problem. It is but not on the same climate destroying level as the former.

[@thegamingeconomist3831]

Turned into? No, they always were. If you look at the way Tories operate, they love to create Special Purpose Vehicles (SPVs) to carry out certain tasks that they'd like to disassociate themselves with, keep at arms length, or have "plausible deniability" for. Shell companies, "economic" think tanks, trust funds - the list goes on and on. UKIP were a Special Purpose Vehicle which Tories funded in order to push an anti-EU agenda because they hated the EU regulations that protected the public and workers from shoddy goods and unethical employers - and above all they hated the anti-tax-dodging legislation the EU was assembling. UKIP was always an offshoot branch of the Conservative party, and now that its purpose has more or less been fulfilled, its members and donors are going back to the Conservative fold. However there was perhaps an unintended consequence. Farage et al were so successful in weaponising anti-immigrant sentiment that they've moved the entire Tory party significantly further right and they are now well into extremist territory. It will take decades to undo the damage these rich entitled few have wrecked on society.

[@benicolay]

As a teacher of science, I wouldn't be Happy teaching sociology or psychology, and I'd be even less happy the other way around

[@thomasfy4]

Where is the Hannah Davidson interview?

[@georgesayles5040]

I agree they should be tackling air pollution, but while it might be Ava's choice to damage her lungs, but its not my choice as the bloke walking down the street near her to be inhaling that smoke and damaging my lungs...

[@django3422]

Are you campaigning to get cars off the roads?

[@georgesayles5040]

@@django3422 I’m not campaigning for anything

[@django3422]

@@georgesayles5040 Then I'd say you're just being wilfully ignorant in picking and choosing what environmental hazards you take issue with.

[@georgesayles5040]

@@django3422 I think people can hold beliefs without campaigning for stuff, And ultimately I think both should be addressed, so I don’t even think I’m picking and choosing, I’m saying do it all

[@SashaGrace94]

Hilarious the amount of anti trans rhetoric that Tories spew when Britain’s first Trans MP… is a Tory. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@bigslydoc]

What on earth are those Tory kids at the start saying??? “Rishi’s on fire.” What is it after that?

[@eightiesmusic1984]

Are the Tories the new UKIP? Is the Pope Catholic. Yes to both.

[@adrianaspalinky1986]

Then get to Wikipedia and stop them describing conservates as centre right

[@Jessypeach21]

may you guys, please, figure out what's up with your green screen set up I say this with the utmost kindess, I don't mean it in a bad way