Tory conference, the resurgence of the beaver, and the death of HS2 | Pubcast #23

[@Taibek]

This is the beaver based politics content I’ve been waiting for

[@nomoreheroes93]

Shoutout to Ed Campbell on the frontlines having to talk to actual Tory members - and how he nods at them like he's a psych ward counsellor

[@richards9750]

He has the napalm to cleanse himself

[@pollytickle8346]

Ed Campbell is a great podcaster.

[@rabidbigdog]

@@pollytickle8346 Really need him to speak english though ...

[@mchparity]

Bravo to Ed. But I'll keep simping Owen Jones.

[@GiveMeBourbon]

New Pod slogan - Love Beavers Hate Tories!

[@Murray-wk3hz]

Canada has had, that slogan for half a century now.

[@alexbuckenham1663]

Seconded

[@AndrewMcColl]

With all this beaver talk, Oli should download and play Timberborn.

[@johnnypatterson7512]

Liz Truss is the woman who basically presented 2 + 2 = 5, got shot down, then comes back with the same answer going "see I was right". No Liz you are wrong again.

[@grapetoad6595]

But now Nigel Farage is backing her saying 5 = (4÷2) x 2

[@tabbymoonshine5986]

Hope Ava is going okay. It must have been a thoroughly rotten time

[@rabidbigdog]

Please tell me to mind my own business if required, but is there an explanation for 'Santina' / 'Evans'?

[@tabbymoonshine5986]

@@rabidbigdog I'm afraid I'm not sure! I was wondering myself. But yeh. What a rough time for her.

[@pfauniversal1890]

​@@rabidbigdog We think they are sisters 😅

[@mrvertigo73]

Ava showing huge strength of character after what she's been put through recently 👏👏👏

[@Britishrailwaystories]

Love the train chat. Keep it up folks. So happy to hear the pro rail voices for a change.

[@uhaulist]

Sure I remember reading that HS2 was a landmine Labour left for the tories, the only Labour fan was Andrew misnomer Adonis, they knew the tories couldn't resist a project with so much grease for their backers notwithstanding the angst in the chilterns and the rest as their farms get blitzed, result.

[@alexanders7569]

HS2 is not unlike Brexit (or net zero). You have a position that is believed to be concrete. People and businesses make strategic plans and investments on the basis of that decision. If that position is torn up, you then have years of people arguing about what should replace it, in which time nothing gets done and investment is scared away by the uncertainty.

[@upendasana7857]

I feel an interview with Chris Packham is needed and you can really talk beavers

[@RichardFraser-y9t]

Just don't get him on to HS2

[@col.hertford9855]

@@RichardFraser-y9tthat’s sound like a perfect outcast though 😂

[@ILikedGooglePlus]

Ollie apologising for lightly tapping the mic, minutes after screaming the intro 💀💀💀 Never change, King

[@missyprime8198]

As a trans woman I'm grateful you raised the important topic of beavers 🤣

[@bonita6030]

A comment only a man would find funny.. I'm sure you know what it feels like to be a woman tho..

[@SteveDorrans]

And how they create wetlands....

[@magus727]

"A succulent high speed railway" had me dying!

[@Notalloldpeople]

If changes to salinity in the North Atlantic causes the Gulf Stream shut down, the change to the UK’s climate will be profound and impacts will be beyond growing season and flooding.

[@davidbates3057]

This was an excellent episode. Really enjoyed the insights, predictions, and beaver life analysis.

[@steffmay7969]

love hearing Ava go full on anorak over trains! And ollie with his beaver

[@FireandHonour]

I would like an episode of Oli talking about beavers and other interesting animals

[@reverendroar]

4:25 I hope Oli sees this because I want to clarify it HS2 is didn’t rip up ancient woodland. As a son of a forester (my dad has worked on woodlands for decades) - HS2 has not destroyed ‘ancient woodland’ what it has destroyed is ‘commercial woodland’ there’s a difference there. Commercial woodland is private land meanwhile ancient woodland is public land - most ancient woodland is in northern England, Scotland and Wales (National Parks like Snowdonia, Highlands etc) not the midlands (which is where I am from). So can the media not call commercial woodland ‘ancient’ please because it isn’t. It’s using the wrong labels. But I can understand the confusion because forestry and woody stuff can be confusing especially for city folks (fyi last bit us a joke - no offence my gf is a Londoner so don’t worry folks everyone can learn about trees not just us country folk). And as my dad’s forestry mates said ‘the French do rural infrastructure stuff better because they co-operate with foresters and horticultural councils unlike what we did with HS2. Plus the French have more land to do this stuff with. Also we don’t focus on flood resistance infrastructure for rural communities which ruins transport and potential projects like HS2. Never mind protecting wildlife’. But what we need infrastructure in the places needed not just big projects to London and back - we need better rail services across the country and every city should have trams (and the top 10 cities should have tube systems like Glasgow does)

[@JossWhittle]

I was going to comment about you completely co-opting the podcast to talk about beavers but you win I'm sold. This is now exclusively to be a beaver facts podcast.

[@highmillpickering2470]

Impressive knowledge about beavers from Ollie. Pity Therese Coffey has held up the release of DEFRAs beaver policy for over a year now, presumably due to lobbying and ignorance from influential landowners

[@DJWESG1]

Not gunna lie, I thought you mean those little blue pens in argos

[@davidhodges1914]

Best Pubcast ever. It’s like a late Tifo Football show. Fun and informative.

[@scufgamer9150]

amazing to see the studio lighting turn ava’s hair into the ireland flag🇮🇪

[@solzero6535]

Ava doesn't like ancient woodlands, very London flavour in the house

[@andrewburgess2482]

.....and this is why this is my favourite politics podcast ... epic :)

[@Hill_Walker]

My problems with hs2. The northern east west links should have been phase 1 and the tickets will be too expensive when/if it's built.

[@nickinman6025]

Beevers have iron in their teeth to make them hard, hence the orange colour. Amazing animals

[@zooblestyx]

"Nice beaver!" "Thanks! I just had it stuffed."

[@djmarti7773]

Got hedgehogs...they love them...crunching thru snails and slugs... Better lookin than gove, mogg and bojo...

[@RichJohn]

I joined late, so it's only on a full viewing does Ava's "A beaver born in Ealing" comment make sense. I think you need a politics joe smallholding spinoff. Like Clarkson's farm but with someone likeable.

[@ILikedGooglePlus]

Ava indulging Ollie talking about Beavers the same way my girlfriend indulges me talk about football

[@Jesus_H._Tap-DancingChrist]

"The Markets Cry Chaos" should be applauded.

[@MnemonicNex]

I love that Ava just wants my local newspapers pens :D

[@CustardCream515]

You have the power

[@jonandrews382]

That few minutes on the beaver was more interested that anything that has been at the Tory Party Conference

[@JackHGUK]

Idk hearing young Tories opinions on BBC politics was a good laugh.

[@jamesfromit]

Why are they talking politics? I came here for the beaver facts.

[@johnwelch5132]

As an environmentalist you’ve done wonders. Baby beaver will have as what AVa says. We’ve a new ruler of this planet

[@lunarman9363]

Michael Gove is the Wiley Coyote of British politics: he always has some mad scheme, it always goes horribly wrong, and somehow he's always back next episode trying another one...

[@alexbuckenham1663]

Interesting point for train chat. The transcontinental rail building companies were run by cronies of politicians in the US and they were paid by the mile. So they got the contracts through cronyism then built unnecessary extra track to claim more money. I believe they also got land either side of the track they built. Still, with that inefficiency they managed it in the time it would take us to fill a pothole in most provincial towns.

[@tersecwalsingham5778]

I'd be interested to see how much of an incentive, 'tax cuts' actually are. People will still be able to see that they're worse off and that nothing works. I think the average person can probably sniff out who really benefits from 'tax cuts'.

[@Ab.Stat.]

when Roger Hallam said there will be 200 million climate refugees in the coming century I thought that sounded mad so went looking for a source and ultimately discovered he was exaggerating a figure produced in a 2018 study (that reassessed the risk posed by rising sea levels using NASA satellite LIDAR arrays) which found by 2100 200 million people would be living below sea level. where on earth did Oli get his 1 billion climate refugees figure from?

[@ikorraks]

Best pubcast yet

[@johnwelch5132]

Goodness it’s lovely to have you back. Why did I see a lovely picture of Ava on the cover of the Scottish Herald in a West Sussex Waitrose? Anyway. I like the fact the Northern Mayors have named the HS2 East West line the ‘Charles Line’ nice. So if Runti Sunak cancels… he’s cancelled the King! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@naffnaffbobface6548]

From the reports of rife usage in Westminster this might be the first time on record a Tory turn down a line of Charlie...

[@metalhead2550]

Oli's new moniker.... Slug Daddy!

[@sockwithaticket]

Sorry, Ava, but a big sigh over and minimising losing ancient woodland is a bit pathetic. We barely have any of it left, it's among our most bio-diverse habitats (in one of the most nature depleted countries in the world) and it is obviously quite time consuming to regrow.

[@arma21regency]

Love these two

[@VinceLammas]

It's almost certainly true that every real political crisis involves a situation where the normal conventions, routines and tools are recognised as being unable to address the problem. The banking crisis of 2008, the unnecessary Brexit self-harm, the COVID pandemic all presented challenges to the orthodoxy. The challenge for Labour will be to steer a course that allows the UK to begin on a path of easier trade, increased tax revenues to support investment in public services and infrastructure.

[@pandemoniumgaming6344]

Great pubcast and thanks for the beaver facts was very interesting

[@johnwelch5132]

Circadian rhythms, now shaving for Beavers is good. You both are the new Springwatch

[@albertbrammer9263]

Shaving beavers? Are you watching porn?

[@PORRRIDGE_GUN]

I've just googled shaving beavers on my work PC but it's blocked and HR now want a word with me...😳

[@tranquilnice775]

Go the two format, much more enjoyable. Ava is a star.

[@moose56]

Love a bit of beaver me. Get’em building HS2.

[@huwzebediahthomas9193]

...bring on the Labour future government conference, in Liverpool, larkke. Sir Keith with his beef, with Tories. 😎👍

[@Storm1312]

Can we have a whole episode about beavers please?

[@bensinger6655]

Love Beavers hate nonces!

[@yaiirable]

"Fuck the ancient woodlands" - Ava Santina 2023

[@jackdeakin106]

cant believe the sun has found a way to be more left wing than these tits. Wtf is going on with the world xD

[@stefanlamb1179]

The only way the tories get back into power this generation is with garden based duck/slug policies appealing to both grannies and young (but old at heart) people like Ollie

[@kieran465]

Re: Oli's theory on the party moving further right post Sunak losing the election. There was one name that you didn't mention that I think could be the perfect man for the job (in a slightly terrifying way) Nigel Farage. He's at the Tory Conference right now, has Brexit under his belt (even if it is a car crash) and he's always had a very strong stance on immigration. Obvs he's out the party at the moment, but I think he's one of the few to match Bo-Jo's cult of personality.

[@laponter3570]

Interestingly definitely not a tory, centre leaning left or left leaning centre. But I've lived almost all my life in Philip Dunne's constituency, I've met him several times, have had a family member in Shropshire council and overall he is a very solid constituency MP, really pro the environment, good for farmers etc etc. Does usually toe the party line but as far as tories go one of the best of them

[@gibsyyy909]

HS2 was supposed to go right through the middle of my city, destroying countless homes and farmlands in the process, without the ability for anyone living here to actually access it. We would have had to get a train to another city to access it. Thank fuck he finally had some level of common sense and scrapped it.

[@philippajoy4300]

The time of the Tory is over. If only...

[@filusmaximus]

Didn't know there was a sub-reddit, I'll get straight on it! You should plug that more.

[@paulnix8443]

If y'all ever visit Finland look me up, I have an escape room here and I'd be happy to have you in! Olli you've got to try one it's already 2023, you are falling behind! 😆

[@folknboat69]

Tory party conference .. I thought we hated nonces?

[@banchiaoman]

Do you ever consider tax cuts have absolutely no meaning to basic pensioners?. you never ever consider OAP's in your dissertations. Start taking some interest ni oldies - invite me on the programme! For fucks sake, we get an hourly rate of about £4 quid!

[@lawrenceblackman4343]

My bugbear is people who call the USA 'America', and people from the United States 'Americans'.

[@willieclark2256]

A yellow courgette is called summer squash in North America

[@Ant-dx8yt]

Michael Gove seemed to be living in opposite world.

[@jebsupertramp4998]

Cheers for the wildlife content

[@rufioh]

Have you covered the doctor strikes?

[@Notalloldpeople]

I hope you nail Lynch on Brexit - in the interests of transparency

[@fossilfishleg9188]

Pigs at the trough conference more like.

[@evolassunglasses4673]

Unfortunately the Left have embraced open borders Globalisation and the Liberal paradigm and have no solutions.

[@aredub1847]

there is a game called timberborn. might wanna look it up re the age of the beaver.

[@Rethgaul]

Poor Ollie - he must have misheard Chief of the "Beefeaters" as Chief of the "Beekeepers" 😂

[@stephenkent1102]

The master of slugs, love it!

[@sfshinz]

Catholic Dogma holds that beavers (and guinea pigs) are fish (people had to eat something on Fridays). So it’s a good thing Ed wasn’t present…

[@baildon15]

"this is democracy manifest succulent high-speed railway." 🤣🤣

[@alphapu6644]

More beaver facts! Did you know that beaver teeth are orange because the enamel is rich in iron? They literally have iron teeth!

[@Deedumdee]

podcast ladies and gentlemen

[@cdean2789]

I helped build the Beaver enclosure. 🙂

[@ZodeakUrganomix]

LOVE BEAVERS HATE NONSENSE IT'S THE POLITICS JOE BEAVCAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@kiriakoz]

This is not a defence of Tony Blair, but it's funny how he's used as a stick to beat Labour more than Howard and Bush are in their respective countries.

[@mattsmith1899]

How does one get tickets to the Live pub cast?

[@capt.bart.roberts4975]

The was a huge rainstorm in China last year, it drowned several kilometres of underground motorway roadway. It was frightening to watch.

[@capt.bart.roberts4975]

And kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGbSeYWBp5h-qKM

[@haribo99ify]

Yes to the beaver talk 🦫

[@Tason123]

I was gonna click off and watch Pod Save the UK but the beaver chat grabbed me

[@sfshinz]

Stick around for the slug chat at the end.

[@attackpatterndelta8949]

Do all these factions have names? Like The Popular Front of Ealing

[@mcspikesky]

I've felt like a serf in a dystopian technology future for 8 years now.. it was probably about then i realised i could trust no online entity and almost nothing i saw in any media, anywhere

[@albertbrammer9263]

River Cottage thought ducks would eat their slugs, but they ate all the lettuce instead Oli.

[@RedSntDK]

I didn't expect to do an internet search for "gay frogs", but here we are. Atrazine btw. that's apparently the "LGBT chemical" as the first result described it.

[@cappinjocj9316]

We need Slug Daddy merch.

[@thomasholden3323]

Shit in the sink..... that sums up the tory party 😂😂😂

[@SteveDorrans]

...as the whole country sinks in the shit....

[@joeleonard-walters1589]

What are the odds that Farage manages to get himself a Tory seat, stands for leadership and wins?

[@spexbeanfarmer]

love how the end of this one ended up just being millennial gardeners question time xD

[@danmayberry1185]

Ed vox popped Eric Pickles, and we must know: did Eric's face grow, or did his head shrink? Either way, they almost fit now.

[@veggienugnugs]

Unfortunately, I'm with Olly on the scary far right future of the conservative party.

[@jamesmumford8641]

infant beaver interview when?

[@maxb88888]

Am i the only person who was dissapointed that Ava gave an 'exclusive interview' to the daily mail on saturday? Was it absolutely necessary to make a few quid from it from the worst people alive?

[@lisalisala117]

Strategic move I'm thinking... I doubt many people on the right of politics have heard of her, so what better paper to give her interview to.. Plus Dan Wootton just got fired from there..perfect way to rub things in 👌 😂

[@rigsby1454]

Why wouldn't you want to talk to the demographic who are more likely to try and side with Fox? No point preaching to the converted

[@maxb88888]

@rigsby1454 come on mate it was clearly just about picking up a few quid. In the last show she said 'this has got nothing to do with me', then does an exclusive interview with the Mail?

[@lisalisala117]

@@rigsby1454 Exactly

[@lisalisala117]

@maxb88888 So what if she picked up a few quid for it - She was subjected to some misogynistic bs from the pair of them. Let them fall whilst cashing in at the sane time #WinWin

[@Skylark_Jones]

Looks like Ollie's swallowed a giant plate

[@charliedouglas7567]

all political careers end in failure could translate to you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villian

[@tones7mca]

Obviously here for the beaver... distinct lack of beaver diversity.

[@dw-yl3ln]

More cursed hotel stories, please.

[@huwzebediahthomas9193]

Rabid dogs and Tory beaver ladies I knew. It's suddenly 2003 again like Windows XL oh hell.