Are The FNaF Books In The Games Continuity? || FNaF Theory

[@lol-space]

I think Scott cawthon probably thought about giving the answer but he didn't because he wants us to solve it ourselves

[@caldercockatoo2234]

But we literally CANNOT solve it. We NEED answers to these basic questions to get anywhere with the lore and yet Scott only wants to troll us. It's annoying...

[@Im_unknown871]

Agreed but it has gotten chaotic so a confirmation or two would be nice

[@astromonster312]

16:59 There was a whole big thread on twitter yesterday showing how often Scott and his co-writers get small details and numbers wrong, especially with things like dates. Because of that I do believe the timeline inconsistencies are just an error, and that they share continuity.

[@Sketch-ic6jf]

I'm gonna be for real tho, I feel like Edwin's age shouldn't matter that much because if we actually paid attention to the dates in the Mimic and the Storyteller, SB would at least take place around the mid-late 2010s... And I'm not too convinced that the Pizzaplex opened in 2024 because I HIGHLY doubt FE would be able to finish that Plex in only a few months...

[@ImpulseEvan37]

I agree that his timeline doesn’t make that much sense, but his age is pretty cut and dry. It’s not really the age difference that’s the problem considering im pretty sure the storyteller mentions it as being 40 years ago, but the events of the story do clear indicate it to be when Freddy’s is open even if the other events don’t really make sense. I feel that if the mimics events were meant to take place in the 70s and the storyteller in the 2030s that’s a huge oversight, and while yeah it’s possible (which I did say in the video) I kinda doubt it. I just feel what happens in the story solidly connect it to the 80s. Plus it’s technically possible he graduated early, thought I admit that would be pretty weird. And as I mentioned in the video, if a chirch can be built in one day, the Pizzaplex could probably be built in a few months even if it is wild and would definitely be cutting it close

[@GendoRokabundi]

I think the ‘223 means feb 23’ explanation helps to declutter the end of the timeline, along with FNAF4 happening 30 years are 1985/1987 closure.

[@ivon1671]

His post about Doug was clear as day, so I'm pretty sure he was indeed trolling 😢

[@GJMinions]

I’m 100% confident he’s trolling He doesn’t take Fnaf too seriously clearly So he’d totally do a troll even if it’s serious Also he literally says he wouldn’t confirm it like that He’ll do it in a game His rule of confirmation Also Scott’s idea of Canon Is weird Connected doesn’t mean canon Tales is probably canon Also I don’t see how Afton or at least his corpse can be in the Pizza Place And it isn’t Luca or Kelly I do believe Split though in regards to Frights

[@higueraft571]

>Connected doesn’t mean canon Actually, his words are: The books ARE canon, but they're in a different continuity. Two timelines set in the same universe, they share mechanics and even characters, but things go in a different direction. >I don’t see how Afton or at least his corpse can be in the Pizza Place He was trapped in FNAF 6, he was burned there, and then trapped in UCN. He, at least as far as SB goes, was still down there. Vanny and Glitchtrap found and repaired him, after getting him out of UCN. Where he went after SB is still a mystery, though i personally lean towards "he went deeper, into Sister Location". >Tales is probably canon GGY seems to stand out from Tales specifically, and is probably the only story i could say is 100% Game Continuity, considering it involves rabbits instead of tigers, and unlike most other stories, HAS actual game evidence pointing towards it. And it doesnt really contradict anything shown ingame either.

[@rad1165]

Mimic Kelly luca NEVER been in the fire at all bunrtrap corpse is scraptrap William bunrt corpse bunrtrap corpse has been in the fire burn trap has one of scraptrap foot and the mimic has white teeth and bunrtrap has yellow rotting human black bunrt teeth to security breach was built over FNAF 6 Freddy Fazbear Pizza place ect. And springtrap scraptrap bunrtrap look alike they all look alike they're all damaged literally the same color green William literally has a voice line for coming back because he's Immortal and he wanted to be immortal to that's why he done all this for Immortality. William you may not recognize me at first but I assure you It's Still ME And glitchtrap decoded message inside princess quest game glitchtrap let me out it's me I always come back. I've heard people lie online too...

[@Sing87eh]

​@@rad1165 mimic was in a fire as the first tales book say

[@truegamer7760]

I think I found a theory that might explain what Scott meant, Pitside. The theory that all of the timelines are connected via the flipside and that the ball pit from the fazbear frights is a entrance. Even if the events of the fazbear frights are not canon to the main timeline characters, characters such as The Stitchwraith and Eleanor can go through the flipside to enter the main timeline. Why would the stitchwraith have so much built up only for it to never be used again, even old man consequences, a character who only appears for one ending in the game, became canon.

[@docrilas]

What is the flipside?the only Flipside I know is Dayshift at Freddy's

[@truegamer7760]

@@docrilas The flipside was introduced in fnaf world and is where Old man consequences lives, the only way to enter the flipside by interacting with "glitching" objects. To this day we still don't fully understand what the flipside is.

[@docrilas]

@@truegamer7760 ok so your theory means that the fazbear Frights events happened in the games timeline ?

[@truegamer7760]

@@docrilas They could, or the flipside is connected to all timelines. The Fnaf community has yet to fully understand how the ball pit and flipside work.

[@docrilas]

@@truegamer7760 tell me more about this theory,i like it,you think that Andrew is from games timeline or books timeline ?

[@fireslasher8105]

I feel like this stuff you said is sort of true with the different timelines but here’s a idea what if the plan for Security Breach was to have Afton come back and the burntrap ending to be canon but then they took Fazbear Frights into account and thought the Afton story ended with Fazbear Frights and then Tales came out and there’s stuff that ties the two series together and be able to be in the games but Frights just doesn’t make sense to be in the games so they came up with a idea they made the mimic and the mimic being a digital copy of Afton being Glitchtrap and the real afton is dead

[@DJBurns-jq8mn]

Look, there are different Pizzaplex locations so while the games tell us the main story, the books should follow stories about the other Pizzaplex locations. Vanessa is not mentioned in the books at all and neither is Burntrap and that's because they are exclusive to the main Pizzaplex.

[@ikaiju-eu9wn]

except it was confirmed that they are set in the main pizzaplex

[@nanuqo2006]

2 pizzaplexes have the fnaf 6 location under them with an endoskeleton monster that mimics people

[@DJBurns-jq8mn]

​@@ikaiju-eu9wnhow, I never read anything that 100% confirms that

[@ikaiju-eu9wn]

@@DJBurns-jq8mn it's a pizzaplex above the fnaf 6 location that is infected by the mimic

[@DJBurns-jq8mn]

@@ikaiju-eu9wn there are different Pizzaplexs that use the same mimic program, the only difference is that Glitchtrap is in the main one

[@CaptainRickey]

I think RyeToast made a couple of good points in his podcast. Scott has always been about vagueness. Regardless of Scott's statements, I really hope the books are not considered to be in the same continuity as the games, as that would ruin the idea of the games. Why go through hours, sometimes even days if the level is hard, of gameplay to catch a glimpse of the story when you could just read a book for an hour or two and get the same story points. Why bother buying the games at all at that point? Fnaf has never been about a story being told to you, or about the graphics, or about having fun together using a game as a medium of entertainment, or about the mechanics of the game allowing for people to show off their skills. Sure, the difficult nights to unlock like UCN's 50/20 are there for those looking to achieve the nigh impossible, but the gameplay itself has always been relatively low skill ceiling, even if it takes some time to get used to. There's no wavedashing or bunny hopping or any equivalent mechanic in the game that would differentiate the good from the best. The games have always been about solving a story, maybe with the one exception being FNAF 1 seeing as there wasn't much of a story to solve.

[@mannyegarica12]

So basically Pizza simulator is the Ocarina of Time in the FNAF universe making multiple timeline splits

[@RS-yk7xh]

I've heard some people saying the hry223 could simply mean Henry Feburary 23rd since you usually include the four digits when referring to the year and not three.

[@ImpulseEvan37]

hm. I'd say that's plausible, but the fact that 2023 is 30 years after fnaf 1 and 223 perfectly matches that, and the game takes place shortly after fnaf 3 which is supposedly 30 years after freddys closed and the last time freddys closed was fnaf 1, that would just be extremely coincidental. And In general I just find it a bit weird that "after freddy fazbear's pizza closed its doors" just wouldn't count the two freddys locations that closed afterwards. That doesn't really make sense to me

[@LukiKruki]

It's because the canon aspect of, for example the novel trilogy, isn't straightforward, it's subtle Like the twin brother Sammy of Charlie Charlie. He's only plot device to put Crying Afton death before Michael Afton and Charlie Emily, Michael Afton guilty over Crying Afton death as well as Michael Afton coming from Sister Location to find his father in FNAF3. In the novels Charlie Emily "died" after she opened a closed door that imprisioned Springtrap which is FNAF2 Charlie Emily dying behind a closed door by Willliam Afton and FNAF3 William Afton imprisioned behind a door at the same time. Ruin DLC does it again. Cassie is caring girl (nature to protect the innocent), with an absend animatronic technician father (Henry Emily), crying because Gregory is missing (Crying Afton death), got "killed" behind a closed door (Give Cake, Security Puppet), the same door that freed Mimic (FNAF3 Springtrap), with Jenny Emily you can see Roxy is playing there Lefty role, and Roxy telling Cassie she remembers her special day (birthday), asking if she still likes a carrot cake (Give Cake), assuring her friends will show up next time (bullied by other kids). Mimic lost his right arm in Elevator Ending which makes him from Springtrap to Scraptrap.

[@hokton8555]

My problem with Canon books is Edwin, hes just William & Henry a sole dad, who loses His child(ren) but they went on to possesses animatronics in some way, are highly skilled technicians, is important member of the company and eventually dies within a freddys locations So i dont really see the reason why the plot needs him

[@ImpulseEvan37]

What you have to remember is that fnaf 6 happens in the tales universe regardless of whether they’re in the games or not, meaning Henry and Edwin coexist no matter what, so Edwin doesn’t fill Henry’s role, he just has a similar one.

[@Sketch-ic6jf]

But Edwin is not even a founder of the company and his death is totally different to how William and Henry died in the games and novels... Also, just because a character can build robots doesn't mean they're a parallel to another character who can also build robots. Henry is not the only person who build something in the FNAF universe, y'know...

[@hokton8555]

@@Sketch-ic6jf thats not what im talking about

[@Markcrazeer]

i have a problem where we are one robiticist short of a corpse pile. henry dies at least twice. in the silver trilogy henry kills himself after making the last charlie bot. the one that turn into baby. (this is where i could be wrong correct me if i am.) in fnaf world where we meet baby for the first time her creator desk guy dies as well. and then henry decides to burn with the pizeria simulator. and william dies in springtrap, and fazbears fright, and the pizeria simulator, and the distribution center, and by the lake. and edwin dies in the storyteller. so who is desk guy? i know the henry in the books is separate, but he is a paralel to desk guy. and if desk guy doesnt matter then all fnaf world evidence like the setting up of happyest day doesnt matter either. we have two henrys one dies in 6 and one dies something something baby.

[@Markcrazeer]

edwins redundancy does not go away just because he is out of continuity. if he isnt canon none of it makes any sense whatsoever. but then again i no longer belive in most of the games being ... true. i dont belive there are ghosts in fnaf anymore.

[@The12thCrashmaster]

Before watching your video, this is how I saw all of the books:Novels - Alternate Timeline, Frights - Alternate Timeline with similar events, Frights - 50/50. Now after watching your video (and some time to think), I actually like the idea of splitline games (nice Loki reference, I loved the series) and how maybe Frights is in an alternate timeline from FNaF 6's fire. And though I used to think TalesGames had 50/50 chance, I'm not convinced they're in the games as much due to the lack of evidence within the games themself (I was really banking on seeing a lot of book representation in HW2 with a 3D Tiger Rock animatronic and the Baobab tree, but we got like little to nothing, just more stuff from VR1 and SB). Anyways, I thought this was great video overall and I can't wait to see your video on how all the mutliple timelines connect with each other. Good Luck!

[@ImpulseEvan37]

if tales wasnt in the games there would be very minimal reason Splitlinegames would be true, tales is literally the main reason i believe it lol

[@The12thCrashmaster]

@@ImpulseEvan37 That’s totally fair. The only real problem I have with TalesGames is the Mimic and how it is in the books, but I'm sure there's an explanation I might've missed. I'm still 50/50 overall, I just wanted to see more book representation and a 3D Elvis Tiger. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK SCOTT!

[@higueraft571]

@@The12thCrashmaster Honestly, i think the only story i can see being 100% Game Timeline without any real contradictions or stretching/filling in blanks would probably be GGY. One of the only games WITH solid game evidence backing it up, fitting neatly into a mystery the games had, and tying back to the games' Glitchtrap, rather than the books' Tiger Rock. Mimic WAS looking like it'd tie into the games too, but then Ruin dropped, with an entirely different design, and the books ended in a way that seems to go against what we see. Alongside, again, Ruin not having any real book counterpart pieces (eg the Jester costume, or any of the other costumes described) appearing. Elvis Tiger WOULD be neat though

[@The12thCrashmaster]

@@higueraft571 Yeah, I totally understand where you're coming from. I was really hoping Help Wanted 2 would've given us more evidence to confirm a side, but it didn't really. Not to mention that the epilogues are messy when thinking about if they're in the games timeline. I honestly shudder thinking about Spimic (Spider Mimic) and Snimic (Snake Mimic). You can't tell me the Mimic in Ruin can become a F××KIN' SPIDER AND SNAKE LOGICALLY!

[@higueraft571]

@@The12thCrashmaster >You can't tell me the Mimic in Ruin can become a F××KIN' SPIDER AND SNAKE LOGICALLY! Dont forget apparently also morphing into Springlocks, according to some theories :V Or just changing out every part of itself aside from a SINGLE hand which still isnt exactly the same because it was feeling quirky.

[@azimuddin1890]

THE MIMIC IS REAL!

[@clouddeity3348]

I'm glad to see u watched the full video before commenting

[@azimuddin1890]

@@clouddeity3348 I’m just joking, the Mimic is already in the game anyways even if the books weren’t part of the game’s continuity.

[@DONG-pp9fj]

@AGR_678 cringe

[@Fredboyos]

2:20 OMG OMG I got a free shoutout with my mere presence in that chat 💀 And the confusing nature of books is the reason why I can't say they're canon or aren't

[@Songal18]

I don't think until the heat death of the universe will we ever get a fully truthful and non-trolly answer for the FNAF universe.

[@GendoRokabundi]

223 -> Feb 23. Which would be a Friday in 2018, or a Saturday in 2019. Since the recording was made near the end of the week (we assume) that could put FNAF6 in one of those years. That gives Henry 2 and a half years (since Fazbear’s Fright was probably open in the fall to coincide with Halloween) and gives the new Fazbear company about 5 years to rebuild until the pizzaplex is made.

[@Shadowmouse1277]

This better be him trolling he needs to give the bite victim some love after all without the bite victim dying the story of fnaf wouldn't have happened

[@juliabp6057]

Nah. William killed Charlie before. The bite victim just became a weak plot device for Mike after FNAF 4’s story was retconed.

[@bensonjarvis5025]

It has been said by Matpat and many long term Fnaf fans and theorists, that the Gnaf Books are another continuity, as another universe. A Fnaf Multiverse, as the game universe is the main universe.

[@ImpulseEvan37]

just because they've said it doesn't mean its true lol

[@higueraft571]

@@ImpulseEvan37 Primarily said so because Scott said as such for the Novels (Same Canon, different Continuity), and assume the wildly bizzare stuff including contradicting info (Frights) is *also* a similar situation :V Same for the movie and to an extent Tales.

[@solereflection9284]

MatPat also rebutted with a full possible timeline (with holes) tying all of mediums together. That’s why they’re considered theories. But every theory goes off the idea that every single statement is considered true until it’s not anymore. Scott’s been playing around with us. Even in universe, the question of event validity has been brought up as canon all its own. The Fazbear coverup with Glitchtrap’s introduction is the primary and most direct example of this so far. At this point, it is very possible that it is all canon in one single timeline, and potentially in a way we won’t like should the series ever find an end.

[@martofel]

Spider-man and Venom in the intro? 😅 🕸️🕷️

[@azimuddin1890]

Also, I don’t read the books, I’m just here to listen to what you say…that’s it…

[@DJBurns-jq8mn]

It has to be that they are canon but still contain parallels instead of one for one details.

[@aftoncultistandsimp]

Fazbear Frights and Tales of the pizzaplex are definitely cannon.

[@clouddeity3348]

It's very clearly a troll and not one thing was meant to be verified idc if anyone thinks it's Canon or not, this comment is clearly a lol haha funny reply

[@solereflection9284]

As only a spectator to all of these play through and theory videos around, I’ve only seen HRY223 mentioned maybe three times now. Considering all of the bait-and-switch conspiracies made all over the FNAF series, assuming that code means the year 2023 is kind of a stretch to bring up on its own. It comes off as far too obvious at the same time as too convoluted of a conclusion to come to. As it stands, outside of canon changes made by SteelWool as they release the series, there’s still the issue brought up by the first Help Wanted that a major portion of the canon games are allegedly fabrications of the company’s history. Where the truth ends and the lies begin is still very much a mystery before anything else, let alone how it can all line up on one single timeline. The events in the books can be revealed later on to have the same ploy involved, meaning in-story lies made by the characters. Scott has only confirmed that they are connected and are technically canon. In what ways is still a dispute all together. One thing can be said: whether we like it or not, Scott and SteelWool have made last minute changes as they’ve gone along, so them stringing along the public would not be out of the question. I’d say take any of their statements with grains of salt as more games, books, and whatever else get released because they clearly know with certainty that they can milk this game series to hell and back. Their mathematical “mistakes” are far too obvious and vague to write off as actual mistakes. On an unrelated note, Scott’s response to Mangle’s gender was good. In my opinion, simply put, its gender doesn’t f***ing matter, does it? It’s a freaking robot. Technically none of the animatronics have genders to begin with. They are programmed husks of metal and plastic. If Scott and SteelWool wanted to call out gender roles for their characters, they would have done it outright instead of wait for crowd outcries to reveal such weird details about literal robots.

[@ShadowLibra]

I'm a soft FrightsGames, I believe StitchlineGames but I'm not gonna bother figuring out which ones are in the games and which aren't.

[@kingemo7806]

Ima have to go back and cath up on the other books cause damn .

[@Hlast1]

I mean his comment was definitely trolling. Saying that you're going to be very clear with your answer, then immediately making an extremely vague answer, followed by reiterating that everything should be cleared up now is an obvious joke.

[@FNaF_Fan_4yd3n]

Wouldn’t it be really funny but also kinda messed up if the story’s in Fazbear frights that are not connected to the stitchwraith stingers are the canon story’s?

[@silverbullet1620]

Could it be possible that Fazbear Entertainment was going to open a Pizzaplex somewhere else, but couldn't because Fazbear Frights opened in 2023 first?

[@DoomSlayer6858]

I honestly think that different parts of the books are canon, but not the whole of Frights and Tales

[@BlockyProduction116]

Personally, I don't think they are. Or more accurately, I believe Tales is in the games, but Frights is not.

[@FNaF_Fan_4yd3n]

But this confuses me, what is the point of Cassidy if Andrew is the one responsible for ucn? Cassidy is now just a random child and no longer important. And I don’t think the princess is Cassidy because they deliberately changed the name of the princess to not confuse the fans due to them sharing a name.

[@docrilas]

Yes but the red king is named in fnaf Help Wanted 2 as "OMC",just like Old Man Consequences,but i agree,if Cassidy isn't TOYSNHK so she's just a random kid without importance,that's why i hate StitchlineGames

[@zenvariety9383]

Or Cassidy is the crying child and Andrew doesn't exist. Which would mean that Mike is responsible for UCN. Never played the games or read the books, but recent theories would shed more light on the lore.

[@FNaF_Fan_4yd3n]

@@zenvariety9383 You mean one theory, cause only two people made this assumption, and they were both on the same channel

[@Wizardjones69]

I think if Edwin and henry exist at the same universe, Edwin would made the withereds for the minus amount of locations in the 80s (83/85) and henry would made the classics for the most amount of locations with merch and tv shows (yes, i think the "unwithereds and the classics exist at the same time, Edwin made the endo 02, while henry made the endo 01)

[@higueraft571]

>yes, i think the "unwithereds and the classics exist at the same time This is also outright wrong, according to Scott :V He said they ARE the same animatronics, he just doesnt like to reuse the same model. Which is also why we (unfortunately) got Scraptrap. With the Classics, they start as the Withereds in the 1983-1985 MCI/old FNAF 1 location, before being left to rot after getting possessed. They get shipped to the FNAF 2 location as we see them. FNAF 2 closes, and they get refurbished and shoved in the reopened FNAF 1 location (1988-1993 or so) until that closes, in which they get dismantled. The endo bits going into the Funtimes, the shells being left til FNAF 3, until they finally burn, Foxy's torso surviving into Security Breach, where it's put on display on Rockstar Row.

[@Wizardjones69]

@@higueraft571 yes, in my opinion they have the same souls, BUT i think the Classics were made first by henry in most of freddy's locations in the 80s before fnaf 2, and Edwin made the withereds, where they children are stuffed in one single location where charlie dies, and EVERY piece of media in the 80s is about the classics

[@Wizardjones69]

@@higueraft571 even the ass encyclopedia say that the endo 01 is made first instead of endo 02, and the endo 01 only fits the classics, and endo 02 fits the withereds and the toys

[@mikemcvaney8930]

He is a troll. He won't give a confirmation of anything

[@k.ms.perkins8644]

FNAF Fans obsessive with the Afton as British from UK England LoL 😂🤣😆😂

[@Wizardjones69]

Mpeg springtrap canon 🍷🗿

[@DONG-pp9fj]

Probably not

[@agonyremnanttrap6789]

I am personally not sure. I see his comment feels like he's trolling by bad quoting "Yes" from an author's perspective but I find his comment suspicious and interesting IMO. Frankly, I find the debating on StitchlineGames and TalesGames pretty annoying considering it's not fun anymore.

[@blueberryelf1150]

I'm sorry, but the princess quest tree does not look like a boaba tree. If it's supposed to, they did a shit job.

[@rad1165]

Books movies games are there own separate individual continuity Au worlds from each other games movies books are there own separate individual AU worlds and i heard Scott said the books are not Canon cuz they should be considered separate continuities elements they have some similarities but have some different and if the movie is not canon to the game to then book is not canon to the games to?? and also there 3 different williams from 3 different AU worlds. Main Original Canon game au world main Also the mimic stuff is going to drive me insane 😭😭 1Canon original game AU William Afton 2 Different Books AU world book au dave Miller William Afton 3 different movie AU world movie AU William Afton Steve raglan Games movies books There all not Canon to each other there all different things how can movies games books be canon to each other when there all different storys and they all have different things in them to. games movies books are there own separate Canon continuity au worlds also if the movie is not canon to Games the books wouldn't be canon to the games to.

[@higueraft571]

>and Scott said the books are not Canon That isnt what he said. Same Canon, different Continuities.

[@Sing87eh]

What does au mean

[@almightykellus2585]

​@@Sing87ehAlternate Universe

[@Sing87eh]

@@almightykellus2585 thanks

[@chaoraiser2338]

tbh i don't exactly know what to believe it's all really confusing i think the only way i could really see stichline games being canon is if it was slightly different like even if andrew died i don't think he could be the vengeful spirit or really anything maybe vengeful spirit but not the one in ucn like the kid who didn't get to do anything and when he got in the stichwraith that's where his real story in somewhat revenge could take place i don't know i just don't like the idea of andrew being asociated with golden freddy because the only way that could probably work is if he was stuffed into withered golden freddy in fnaf 2 which makes no sense other than the fact that there's an extra pool of blood in the save them mini game which would help with everyone being confused on why there was 6 kids in 1985 i don't know but yeah i really feel like a better story for andrew would be a somewhat parelle to cassidy but he's just a more angry child because unlike her and the others he didn't get some form of revenge and he's mad about it i don't know something like that to make him in the timeline but a different character not associated with golden freddy to much to where he's really important to solve golden freddy in a who possess him way or he's important enough to be a golden freddy type character in fact i could see him as more of a shadow freddy because he's just so different and maybe jake could be the shadow bonnie that does what he can to help but then when he winds up in the stichwraith after a while andrew is there too and then their story can begin i know jake isn't agressive but it could be a puppet situation where even though i don't think the puppet has any confirmed victims she might kill because shee's just doing what she thinks she needs to do in order to help the kids and she just can't afford any distractions or something

[@kevinahm3773]

Well but I personally don’t think that Glitchtrap is just the mimic. I personally think that it’s a digital copy of Aftons mind which was on the Scraptrap cyrcetboard and then formed glitchtrap which overtook the mimic01 one Programm which was also used for hw 1. The main Resten I think this is because normally the things that are connected to the mimic have red eyes which almost maches with the animatroniks in sb except for Burntrap (Glitchtrap), Vanny when she is taken over in hw 1 by glitchtrap and Freddy in the Burntrap bossfight, and glitchtrap litterly says in princessquest one ´´I always come back, let me out´´ which you here if you reverse the bagground, and I don’t think Scott would put this voiceline in there if William wasn‘t somehow a part of glitchtrap,it’s even confirmed that the tales books where written while hw1 was created. There is also no evidence that the mimic saw the mci or Afton. Also in hw I think we simply put Williams memory’s back together. Nice Video👍

[@higueraft571]

>and I don’t think Scott would put this voiceline in there if William wasn‘t somehow a part of glitchtrap Keep in mind, this is from Security Breach in terms of time period, likely. My theory: Glitchtrap is Mimic_01. It was lying around SOMEWHERE, and digging through places like Sister Location (which they likely resused for the Special Delivery service) they found several spare boards lying around, dating from Fredbear's (or even earlier) to William's death or even afterward. One of those was Mimic_01, which they scanned into the system. It learned about William, possibly from the other boards, or simply the game itself. Not a lot, only that he was a "Purple Guy" (maybe) who used a yellow spring bonnie costume to lure and murder 5 children. Without much to go off of, it assumed "costume" meant fabric, rather than a Springlock suit, which is why it looks nothing like anything we saw before. And it wants more info about William. Convert Vanny, hunt him down, free him from UCN, and start asking questions. Which would explain the Afton line, why he doesnt speak, etc etc

[@kevinahm3773]

@@higueraft571 this is also a cool theory, but for both of our two theory’s are evidences and things that speak against it.

[@higueraft571]

@@kevinahm3773 >The main Resten I think this is because normally the things that are connected to the mimic have red eyes which almost maches with the animatroniks in sb except for Burntrap (Glitchtrap) Admittedly, only just saw this part on a reread... It's... kind of a stretch. I dont think any of the Glamrocks have had Red eyes, aside from the bare Endos? Would Withered Bonnie specifically be Mimic'd? What color WOULD their eyes' light be normally? TECHNICALLY Vanny too, but that's because of the mask. And for the other part, one detail i've always found strange is the idea they: Wandered into the FNAF 6 location, found the most rotten nasty animatronic in there, and pried a circuit board out of it (seemingly clueless), before just abandoning the place again and later burying it, to THEN (from Book lore at least, so not sure if this is certain) dig it back up/rediscover it, to turn it into a museum under the Pizzaplex. Then seal it off again.

[@DONG-pp9fj]

@@higueraft571 you writte like a bot

[@higueraft571]

@@DONG-pp9fj ok. Are you going to say something now?

[@amzingfantasy15]

I personally think I don't know if this is true but I think fnaf 1- ucn is the fnaf games and the main franchise and that the books are spinoff of the main games that take elements from the main story and help wanted- help wanted 2 is a spin off game trilogy that takes the main games in a different direction but the story of the main games is a different Canon, thought the tales books take place in the help wanted universe while stitchline is a separate Canon not Canon to the games. Because if you look at at my perspective what If ultimate custom night is the last game and that everything else is a spin off, and might fix many issues and will clear everything up because think about from a different view point you will find many problems with the fnaf lore fixed now

[@charleswolfe8896]

Couldn't both frights and tails from the pizza? Plex be in universe book series?

[@alymatronicdeeare8265]

No. Because if they are that means that we all must acknowledge that the Springtrap pregnancy is real.

[@Personian]

If Frights is canon, only Stitchline would be canon, therefore only the stories connected to the epilogues are canon as well as the epilogues themselves This does not apply to that specific story

[@docrilas]

​@@PersonianBut, Matt is also a character in Tales From The Pizzaplex

[@maitanisantosky9739]

This is why FNaF3 and FFPS arent in 2023. Stitchline and TalesGames canon ftw. Good video

[@sebastianszyrwinski9325]

StichGames no, TalesGames probably

[@juliabp6057]

FNAF 3 and FFPS in 2023 are canon, bro

[@AltUTimegod2006]

GLITCHTRAP IS AFTON

[@Sing87eh]

*mimic1

[@AltUTimegod2006]

Even though I disagree I would like to thank you for expressing your opinion

[@Sing87eh]

@@AltUTimegod2006 yw

[@Sketch-ic6jf]

13:33 TBF, that would spoil the reveal that FFPS is under the Pizzaplex in SB because the Fazbear Frights came out before the game.

[@ImpulseEvan37]

Yes, but logically it would definitely have been mentioned, and the storylines seem to mostly imply that at that moment, Fazbear entertaentertainment was pretty much done for, and even if not, the giant Fazbear entertainment mall would have surely been mentioned even if they didn’t specify that it’s over fnaf 6

[@harpbrothers100]

Yes

[@ArtieFNAF]

11:37 - no. Just no. The Mimic takes place in 1979 at the latest. and Storyteller takes place 36 years after The Mimic, not 40 years. The Mimic and The Storyteller have a huge inconsistency when taken into the continuity of the games. I like your content, but this detail bothered me. I recommend reanalyzing the dates and making sure you don't make mistakes again. until. (;

[@ImpulseEvan37]

Edwin is 24 in the mimic and 64 in the storyteller. 36 years you say?

[@ArtieFNAF]

​@@ImpulseEvan37This is actually an error that quickly spread throughout the community- Edwin is not 24 in The Mimic, he is 28 In The Mimic it is said that during a sequence of flashback scenes, which Edwin loved to construct during his 24 years but, in fact, Edwin at the present moment in history no longer likes to build In The Storyteller, it is mentioned that Edwin, at age 24, received support from his wife Fiona, who died 4 years before the events of The Mimic still in The Storyteller, it is said that Edwin at age 24 was very self-centered. His ego was so big, he never saw himself working for a company like Fazbear Entertainment or at a place like PizzaPlex. which goes against The Mimic, since in the story he has already been working for Fazbear for at least 1 and a half years So Edwin was 24 when his wife died, 4 years have passed (David's age) and the events of The Mimic take place, where Edwin is already 28 years old Then Edwin disappears for 30 years, and returns to Fazbear. that is, he was 58 years old. It has been 6 years since his return, and the events of The Storyteller took place, Edwin is now 64 years old. So 36 years after The Mimic, not 40.

[@Wattson19]

​@@ArtieFNAF If The Mimic took place in 1979, and Storyteller took place 36 years after this, then this would put Storyteller at 2015, which is simply not possible.

[@ArtieFNAF]

@@Wattson19 Yes. This is called a plot hole. Believe me, very common in FNAF. That's why some people started lying saying that The Mimic was in 1984, all for Storyteller to be in 2024 and be minimally plausible. Even though this literally goes against what both stories establish.

[@Wattson19]

@@ArtieFNAF Here's my attempt at trying to make sense of this mess: -The Mimic: 1993 Let me explain: So, the stories mentions that Edwin is making animatronic suits made of fabric. This automatically means that he's making animatronics for Freddy Fazbear's Pizza. Preety much everyone agreed that it has to take place between 1983-1985, because this is the time spam where the first Freddy's was open. However, have we not considered the possibility of it being relating to the 3rd Freddy's instead, the one from Fnaf 1? The story never especifically mentions if Freddy's is peaking or not, so there's nothing to say that it cannot be referring to the 3rd Freddy's. So not only is it totally possible for this to be the case, but it also fits nicely in the timeline without making any plot holes, therefore, this is my placement. - The Storyteller: 2029 36 years after "The Mimic" - Security Breach: 2035 We know for a fact that the Pizzaplex is open for atleast 4 years due to the Fazbear magazine, and it fits perfectly with the calendar that we see in Security Breach.

[@exode7414]

I say no because they never where with old FNAF books I mean some parts where canon but some where so that's what I believe.

[@Rainbow3ntity]

oh i'm in the video yay

[@jacktaylor6155]

You just talk too fast for me. I need a graph or a chart