Are These 2 Handed Uniques ACTUALLY GOOD for WW Barbarains? - Diablo 2 Resurrected

[@NeoLotex]

Ripcracker probably surprised me the most and I think I remember that I used it as a cheap alternative on my Fury druid back in the day before runewords. Other than that Grandfather is still one of the coolest weapons out there even though I've never gotten my hands on one myself.

[@rupp88]

It went well because of the low reach, hence landed more blows on enemies close by and killed all faster.

[@zaug1561]

I feel whether the Decrepify from the merc's Reaper's Toll proc'd or not was a significant uncontrolled variable.

[@jprec5174]

It's generally worse than pride for p1 and yea it messed up the test probably.

[@cbreezy2449]

Who remembers the OG days, lances with ice blink armor 😢

[@PringlesCan-y7m]

yah, it makes me laugh when people say Grandfather was the OG WW weapon. Imbuing Lances was the route.

[@WeAreFreeAudits]

Ccbq

[@zacheryainsworth3825]

If you want you WW Barb to wreck even on players 8, you have to have Crushing Blow, Open Wounds, and Critical/Deadly strike. G face is way better than arreats. Also Durress armor helps a lot. Also WW Barb is not a lazy Max life build. You need very high attack rating to hit and lots of strength for more damage. I usually run between 2000 and 2500 health.

[@Max-Turbator]

i disagree on strenght , you only need whats required to wear the gear, you need max block and highest chance to hit possible as ignore target defence does not work on bosses. if you add strenght you will end up having less health then a sorc with bo

[@attractivegd9531]

Duress has cold damage = not a good idea, also you prob playing softcore.

[@Max-Turbator]

so you build everything around being able to hork lol and then do a stupid comment claim about hes playing softcore, that makes no sense , you must be not playing this game at all@@attractivegd9531

[@zacheryainsworth3825]

@@Max-Turbator max block on a two handed WW Barb????

[@zacheryainsworth3825]

@@attractivegd9531 I am referring to Softcore. And yes if you want to Hork no cold damage is optimal. Fortitude is probably best in slot, I'm just trying to make the point that Crushing Blow, Open Wounds , and Critical/Deadly strike are very important. Also I feel one handed weapons are much better due to the higher ias allowing them to proc more often, and that's also why dex is important so you land as often as possible.

[@xjudoflip7381]

The Grandfather Sword! Best looking weapon in the game imo. My friend had this on his barb back in the day, and I was so jealous of it. So Kewl Ribcracker and Grandfather looked like the best 2. I wonder how Dual Grandfather would do?

[@hostileaks4495]

I don't think i played as much as I thought I did 20 years ago. I've found several grandfather's and doom bringers. Never seen that drop back when it was best in slot.

[@jeffsaffron5647]

I personally never go max vita on a barbarian. Having 6k HP is just not necessary. Better spend those points on dex getting more AR.

[@reneangler]

Yes

[@PAwader]

You shouldn't need more ar, get it from your charms and rings.

[@balkthor]

@@PAwader What other stats would you use, STR? ENE? Outside of hardcore I tend to agree that much VIT isn't necessary, and I'd rather save charm space for MF.

[@PAwader]

@@balkthor you're creating your own problems

[@Jvstm]

Agreed. I usually cap out at like 200 Vit on a Barbarian and dump everything else into damage

[@andrewcooks1]

I saw a video a year ago and I vaguely remember they said something about the weapons range affecting WW. If I remember correctly shorter range is better for single target.

[@rupp88]

That's a huge point he missed. You might have watched ginger gaming mentor's video

[@andrewcooks1]

@@rupp88 I'm pretty sure you are right.

[@andrewcooks1]

No one is perfect. We should not put people down. I can appreciate people with similar hobbies. Being in the cooking profession I would be grateful for Phil or anyone else just a fraction of a percent of being thorough

[@fmswatchdo2373]

Prior to patch 1.10 in D2, a barb wielding 2 grandfathers was the bully in the game.

[@WeAreFreeAudits]

i mean ccbq was a thing

[@Dathremar]

I liked running grandfather with a lightsabre

[@Mmmmstew]

If you ever edit this I feel you should show the character stats and dps etc when you show the equipped gear before using it. Also maybe do some chaos and baal runs for a good image of how effective they are against souls and baal minions etc. Nice content Phil

[@vaelisiousantorus]

As a german watcher I love how you pronounce Messerschmidt

[@rupp88]

Ditto

[@Brownkidc]

I love the video! Community needs a refresher budget mercenary build guide! Especially for act 5!

[@crow917]

2 griefs to 1 grandfather. hmmm Great video. Keep em up.

[@Brforsaken]

Keep making content for yourself Phil! Your Curiousity is what keeps the videos comin'. We're talking about a game where every nook and cranny has 10 different youtube videos about it.

[@jprec5174]

Polearms are worse for ww because they have such high attack range that you wind up spreading the damage around. The thunder maul and ribcracker have low range so you most likely hit the enemies you actually ww over. The grandfather is the best because 2h swords only the only 2handers that can reach 4 frames now. A death colossus sword is probably the best 2h ww wep

[@rupp88]

I was reading to see if someone wrote about the range, which is huge and he kinda ignored. Also dual wielding has more hits per second. I really enjoy death as well, but fleshripper is a great unique

[@jprec5174]

@@rupp88 i tested a death cs after this vid. With metamorph/beast switch buff you can easily reach 4 frames and you one shot most stuff up to p3. Any higher and you really need the multi hits from dual wielded weapons because enemies start scaling their hp too high. Grief/azurewrath best for all around clears imo. Having sanctuary aura is great to strip undeads of their phys res. Then the azurewrath's cold and magic damage goes through the balrogs' weakest resistances. Metamorph/beast swap is expensive but it absolutely is bis for barbs now since the Deadly strike on gface is not necessary. Metamorph gives 20% DR 25% skill ias (so like running beast fanaticism off ur helm), cannot be frozen and some str and res. The damn thing is better for everyone else than shaper lols. It's stupid but this is what happens when you nerf hustle.

[@bernardocorti1613]

I like to use rares and uniques on ssf. Thanks for the video =)

[@josephstahlbaum2554]

How is your merc surviving hydras?! I have tried giving my merc guardian angel and kiras for upped max fire res, and he still goes down in seconds. I dont even bring him when running trav anymore

[@MilesMontgomery-pj4xc]

Thanks for making the videos about the history of the game before runewords came it. I find it interesting

[@Odinoian]

Never sleep on the Ribcracker! :) And damn, do I miss the days when Uniques were more viable than today. This is how everyone test their setup but it's not very consistent. Renewing the game will give super mobs different stats and buffs, and will give incomparable results. You should really should take the extra hassle and test them on bosses like Diablo or Baal. Then you won't have to deal with mobs moving around either

[@johnjackson2349]

G face is THE best helm for barbarian, the 35% cb and 15% deadly strike adds so much damage, even on a HC character its just the best in slot imo

[@logic314]

did you try eth upped bonesnap? 300%ed 40%cb. allways wondered how it would fare lategame...

[@PringlesCan-y7m]

after the patch that "fixed" WW/druid, there is no 2 handers worth using with Whirlwind. getting to the fastest breakpoint is almost impossible and never even close to worth it.

[@JB-th4bx]

Does the chance to cast decrep on kill on Executioner's Justice work with whirlwind?

[@raidbossnunu]

It should work since it is cast on kill

[@Grodstark]

It does, yes.

[@frequentsee3815]

Set of angelics would have been fun here

[@balkthor]

.....Whoops. I've been leaving unique thunder mauls on the ground when MF'ing. I'm certain I've missed a cranium basher at some point.

[@AxelVanrossomme]

I would love to see Blizzard buff / rework most elite uniques that are currently not used but super rare. It would allow for better late game chase than « farm runes and bases » Also, make WW great again by letting it hit every frame as D2C or allow procs maybe?

[@nunosousa4689]

you need a total of 80% IAS on 2-handers that have [20] weapon speed (thunder mauls, warpikes, etc.)

[@xxhungover]

What’s about the arioc’s needle + highlord?

[@tryllejens]

Haven't really ever played barb, but isn't dual Grandfather an option? Or does dual two-handed swords not work with WW?

[@D4V3.0H]

Yes dual GF works with WW

[@amfitness5598]

You've completely missed the point of some of these weapons. I suggest you look up a channel Kruggers13 and his zeal + cranium basher vid. Barb with WW isn't really the best way to get the most out of these items. Going back to the Cranium Basher, WW can't proc the amp damage. huge miss. Test it with a 2H Zeal/Fanaticism Pally. It destroys lower level Trav. or WSK, or Chaos. Executioner's Justice is godly on a Fury Druid. You completely missed the point of having -target defense on that item b/c IGT doens't work on elites or bosses. Again lower player counts but these items are cool and work very well. You just didn't test them correctly.

[@LordGr3yBush]

I think the mercs decrep proc might be leading to slight inconsistencies in the tests. Love the vid phil!

[@Michael-hw3vj]

Why not use a grief 2h weapon to showcase the difference vs a single grief? Don't a lot of the trav runners use grief + 6ist pb or something? maybe I'm mistaken just kinda curious.

[@antonuralskiy6512]

Because there's no reason to use one grief instead of two. No ED, only +max.

[@rupp88]

Not really, the amount of times one hits while WWinding dual wielding is different. So there's more hits per unit of time, even if the damage does not add

[@nextdoordarts3770]

Yoooo, just found a 155/15/40 cheers..any idea of the value?!

[@miguelviau3163]

Could have tried a 40/15 steel pillar spear as well?

[@redeyenomore]

You ever tried a Zodded ethereal Messerschmidts reaver for WW?

[@Algonqiun]

Isn't that the first weapon he tried? 2:00 min mark shows it

[@redeyenomore]

Derp yup i was out of the room when he showed that one, shit kinda shlaps

[@widme9884]

Can you proc as ww decrep from executioner's justice?

[@nickelodeon1989]

why ww on chaos runeword is laggy vs barbarian ww ?

[@D4V3.0H]

Because it is only +1 to whirlwind compared to Max +45 whirlwind

[@c3n5i]

"ignores targets defence" doenst make u hit every time, it delets the attack rating part oif the calculatiuon so its just yopu lvl vs monster lvl *2 ?

[@nunosousa4689]

also you should disable the reaper's toll... the decrepity procs mess up times

[@Hakkis109]

Missed doombringer just for the nostalgy

[@SupernovaSymie]

Cranium Basher Thunder Maul used to have amp damage charges on it in 1.08....That got nerfed 😏

[@fuzzymuppet1990]

Thank you for doing this phil! Ww is my main as always

[@humanbeing418]

Maybe try ww with bul kathos sets and immortal king sets

[@FesterrotGaming]

awesome video you do great content but i think saying *They work reasonably * as long as you have all these perfectly rolled scs lol PHILL you should take a look at unique item builds with out a full bis inventory to show new players how the unique items really stack up to rune words. even if you play online and use jsp or something else to do some trades attaining that type of inventory is a very steep base line for a build. why not try stuff that a new player or a season character can attain fairy easily with NO inventory like ww barb that uses a thresher insight or a non eth cv insight and hustle armor things like that they are by no means bis but realistic in terms of what you can get on a new character or for a new player you know. getting max rolled godly 0.01% drop rate uniques with bis inventory full of charms doesnt really show case those items properly since if you did have that bis inventory why would you be using alternative elite unique items ?

[@asbjrnfossmo1589]

Ribcracker goes to 300%ED when perfect, but ofc that doesn't give 666 as max damage.

[@Mestoc]

No Bonesnap? :(

[@diosdadojrlubiano7674]

Currently playing ww barb on nightmare and I found an eth warlord’s trust axe im so stoked! And fk grief 😂

[@rupp88]

Hey Phil, you didn't address reach and the hit mechanics while dual wielding. Dual Fleshrippers would most likely outperform those huge weapons

[@v1dmr129]

Ribracker showed controversial results cause there was stoneskin with Eldrich (abd then Shank teleported) 50 ias & 50 crush works

[@hachiejr1]

I’m doing single player holy grail. I’m 48.1% done still getting my character geared and locked. My barb is lvl 65 and using 2 lightsabers

[@Waheed1991]

I think you forgot the Ogre Maul Windhammer unique

[@esourteric412]

I like a tomb reaver on thr cold sorc merc before the sunders. Cold immune usually undead so it crushes them 3os its fire

[@Conformist55]

20:54 better have picked up those maiden javs…

[@msraamdecoratie9241]

How did you get Hone Sundan in a Mancatcher???? It spawn in a Yari and if you Up it, it becomes a Ghost Spear... and it's not the fastest base... Inaccurate information Phill... 😅

[@SWENWAR]

Messerschmidt's Reaver looks sick!

[@Infovince3434]

Could upgrade the hone sundan to it's elte form?

[@sunileddu5847]

he did, it was a mancatcher

[@apoxic]

It's a shame they never updated on hit chance to work on WW. I love my whirlwinds!

[@supertraco]

why always a 99, most test should be at 85, also pretty unrealistic gemming a zod on that unique

[@D4V3.0H]

He said it's hero edited for testing purposes

[@MrGrekaum]

Your Hone Sundan have wrong base (mancatcher). The right base is Yari > Ghost Spear, wich are slower bases.

[@SweetPhil]

Ohhh uuhh oops. 🤦‍♂️

[@briancurrie2897]

Full IK still rocks for WW Barbs. Not best in slot but also nothing to laugh at either. once you get enigma gore riders and Laying of hands ik set is easily replaced.

[@bstoker9468]

Exactly what I was looking for

[@Droppingtotes]

Id like to know your chance to hit with all these, I mean at lvl 99 its not hard to get a good chance to hit. It just takes forever to get to lvl 99.

[@Houster1000]

Great vid idea

[@EricBaudet-j7v]

Should have tested in cows map

[@kiss4luna]

ww is better with G-face, cb helps so much i can't live without it

[@E1337Jerk]

Though you were dropping the bang bang skeet skeet with the Gfather!

[@D2rScrapYard]

To be fair you didn’t run duel grandfather.

[@russellcrowe187]

I run dual grief ww barb for my trav barb

[@ggallin2187]

get that jade figurine! :)

[@ryanmartin674]

Uses hero editor...doesnt optimize while testing...

[@PhillipWard-m6r]

Try a no vita build all into strength gives more dmg

[@j0h4n97]

No Doombringer? :(

[@simokosunen4782]

Lol jade figure :D

[@alexstef6965]

hone sundan upgrades to ghost spear, not mancatcher lol…. nice video 😑

[@jonathangortz8104]

Honestly I think you just a made a case for them to introduce new unique items 🤔 I realise a lot of you holy grailers might get upset but I don't care add new uniques or at least buff some of the ones that fell off as you clearly demonstrated.

[@zirby5012]

obv u have no clue. cool video bro but barbs dont go full vita. And i think you should drop the runeworts like enigma to have a real og xp.

[@mikandis]

Phil.... I play hell single player..... Never see high rune... My wife very nearly to become my mercenary... Heeeeeelp

[@superschandorf]

make it with real weapons .... eth is sooooo rare

[@bruteLulu]

WW barb is traaaaaaash

[@nubnub8202]

I think a video without the items being ETH+ZOD would make this information more realistic for the average player to want to test, or even know. If there is a point of "if its not ETH+ZOD it's not worth showing" then it's def not worth us (average players) watching/knowing this info.

[@Nomad5980]

He literally said he did this video for his own curiosity

[@nubnub8202]

@@Nomad5980 if this video was 100% for himself and served no purpose for the viewer, why not private it?

[@reneangler]

Cool

[@rykox8877]

we need more testing videos, MORE