Are They Champs or Cheaters? - Rainbow Six Siege

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[@VarsityGaming]

Cheaters really are everywhere. Hopefully we don't run into any on todays stream. Twitch: twitch.tv/varsitygaming

[@rqmilly]

hiiii varsity i love you

[@btelnyy6050]

Imagine not liking his comment

[@-crossheart]

Did you know that varsitys charm is available throughout year 6? Oh wait-

[@duckiermercury7635]

Please do this as much as you want because it's really interesting and fun, not that I don't like gameplay, just want to see so I can stop accusing those random cracked people

[@TheSecondOrb.]

I feel like you should go through without outlines off if you can before watching it with them so you dont already have a lot of suspicion against them i just thought it would be a good idea

[@animaniacsrule]

The jager and buck were like the accusatory Spider-Man meme

[@wooster0249]

😂😂😂😂

[@kingeling]

Both walling yet not hitting each other at all

[@markhall9811]

@@wooster0249 de in important

[@adeptrk7394]

@@kingeling Makina is not walling at all, he was a diamond and hasn't played for three seasons, we were all playing on our alts for that match since we haven't been playing this season, too many cheaters. The Banned..TM guy was clearly cheating tho, you can tell how Me and Makina had to play together to bait him with his walls, I have been playing in Diamond elo for 7 seasons, and Javier for longer than us, we used to play with Makina on a comp team, but nothing as serious as PL or CL. Even the vote was ultimately 86% Banned was cheating, there you go.

[@adeptrk7394]

@animaniacsrule, I understand why people would think Makina had walls on the kitchen door faceoff, but if you've played at diamond elo before you should know the outlines of the map and place your sight towards the door through the wall before you actually peek. At least we used to look at this stuff when we used to scrim and make our strats, we can't do that on the new or reworked maps.

[@refluent187]

notice how these hackers only ads when someone is around the corner, they never peek, or prefire when they know nobody is around

[@gunarr6]

precisely

[@zhila5958]

i thought something is wrong with me. guess sometimes the enemy simply cheats which is sad. i mean lots of stuff wrong with me but i’ve faced a small bunch of cheaters sadly

[@gunarr6]

@@zhila5958 the amount of cheaters lately has been insane. especially since that wire frame cheat came out

[@zhila5958]

@@gunarr6 ikr never ever faced this amount of cheaters. it’s insane how much there have been lately. sometimes i go rewatch and see how they don’t even drone and out of sudden i get wall banged across the map. it’s literally insane

[@Nathan-xm7rw]

@@gunarr6 Didn't they patch that? I know it used to be a big issue, but I thought they fixed it again recently

[@SmacklnTheFace]

NorthernWavez might have had a no recoil hack so the replay system didn't have any mouse input pulling down to combat the recoil

[@VarsityGaming]

This is a possibility, if that is how it works. I have seen hacks in the past where the bullets hit the person regardless of the recoil, so it's possible it could be either.

[@DryBreadSlice]

@@VarsityGaming Thats lame now i see why high rank players have little faith

[@anarchyd2]

@Sadge_Java lol the cheater accusing the cheaters

[@TheOnlyMitchDizzle]

@@anarchyd2 LMFAO I PLAYED WITH THAT GUY, didn't think he was cheating until i went back to the replay. He was on my team and still isn't banned.. This was 17 days ago, i have a Twitch vod of it if you want to PM me for it.

[@martinkrol2840]

From my experience programming multiplayer shooters, recoil should be calculated clientside as to not clutter network traffic, and thus manage ping. If he's using a cheat removing his recoil, that recoil would still be calculated on other clients.

[@harshdutta3942]

As a lifelong Smoke main I can wholeheartedly say he couldn't have possibly seen anything through that shield positioning at 23:03, let alone have a one way advantage in that gunfight.

[@qlxjy]

He could see him through the sheild

[@ehsanramezani2965]

The audacity of the first guy😂

[@-crossheart]

Did you know that varsitys charm is available throughout year 6?

[@RefriedBean956]

@@-crossheart no I didn't

[@-crossheart]

@@RefriedBean956 now you do

[@Dctctx]

That’s me

[@RefriedBean956]

@@Dctctx no one asked tho....

[@stopfen8957]

35:26 dont laugh at me pls I'm gonna cry

[@Mike-og1ik]

LOL

[@loganhagemann3556]

Pain

[@javiartem]

rip bro, you will be remembered

[@thevoidwalkerbr]

Fire in the hole I guess

[@LuChiNiDaDon]

Good try brother 😂

[@BatSlayer2448]

When you find someone that doesn’t know when varsity’s charm is available: We have a new target.

[@vstrmrk]

Jokes on you I already got my charm 😎

[@redprussian3874]

How do I get it?

[@htxthewild5553]

@@redprussian3874 you can subscribe to his twitch which is free if you have twitch prime or subscribe with 5 dollars

[@justadrako4704]

@@htxthewild5553 don’t forget you need to link your twitch with your Ubisoft account

[@Human-yv1up]

I used mine on lt custard spare me );

[@TheBagel693]

One thing about the NorthernWavez guy that I'm not sure you noticed but notice how he always seems to keep an eye on every enemy on the map through his periphery. Take the clip at 9:00 where he goes to the stairs and then checks his right just slightly so that mozzie's outline is in sight. It's like his making sure he isn't moving up on him or atleast staying there. or at around 6:20 he always keeps his sight so that you can easily keep track of all enemies on the map.

[@HazZzur]

I don't know why he didn't notice it. That guy is always randomly looking at blank walls for 1s or so that he has no business in looking at.

[@aTypicalMushroom]

Ye he has esp lmao

[@heitorluis9517]

When battle eye is do good that two hackers are in one match at the same time.

[@uhohmemebiggestboy212]

Yes actually thats probably the reputation system at work two people who might get reports a lot so they end up in the same match

[@castner4169]

How I think I aim vs. How I actually aim: 3:07

[@instincte]

Litteraly tho

[@NotLuvely]

That be me honestly

[@LuChiNiDaDon]

😂😂😂

[@operatornomad1093]

The Jäger and Buck in the third clip were the embodiment of the ‘when a hacker fight a hacker’ memes

[@user-ns3vs3bp3e]

Ubisoft watching the first one “hmmm nah he might just be good let’s let him play for a few more seasons to be sure”

[@roadhouse2109]

nah there watching and like let him play for a few seasons and give him a sponsorship

[@finngarry2774]

Varsity: He might just be a good player also varsity 5 seconds later: *laughs* he just flashed himself

[@arranr]

That speech about not calling people hackers and why is a good example of why I respect Varsity

[@baloo4522]

You should do more match replay videos, they're really fun and interesting to watch.

[@buttercremecake1321]

Some of these replays are the equivalent of gas station security cameras

[@f.b.i3472]

“We see the outlines” -varsity Well they can see em too sheeesh

[@whydoiexist9471]

At 7:42 you can see the guy quickly aim at the person behind the reinforced wall

[@winter517]

Me and my friend have played with the NorthernWavez guy. The no recoil is not a replay bug because it was happening in our game. His gun would be going up but all his bullets were going straight.

[@achxes2k]

good ol spiderman meme with jager and buck

[@nathanbourke2355]

A KZbinr with a brain I love it

[@slychekuun8894]

My friend from 2 years ago: "This game doesn't have bullet drop you idiot" 2:47

[@prgjo5341]

I feel like that sledge at the end should use his Gamer Tag to learn how to cook a grenade.

[@nuhthanyewl]

Since this is something new, I just want to say I really do actually enjoy these videos and I hope you will make them forever from now on.

[@anthony9363]

"His reactions can be amazing but sometimes they're so bad," Me at 3:00 a.m. running on pure soda vs. me in the middle of the day.

[@Vxsionzz]

14:04 the way u shakes ur head and looked side to side made me laugh soooo hardddd

[@2XtheFather]

One thing you're not accounting for are play patterns. For example, look at Ash's movement [kafe] and crosshair placement. He automatically puts his crosshair on edges of windows/doorways. Also when rushing through white he does the same routine; pre-aims white-stairs, pre-aims door, shoots camera, checks door again, and finally goes up stairs. Not saying he isn't or is cheating, btw

[@kakarotwolf]

The two cheaters meeting had me fucking dead lmao

[@wesmatron]

That first guy was legit. he just had a good gaming chair.

[@roadhouse2109]

that's wahat I'm saying but people forget he might have some gfuel to enhance is gaming

[@zveg5611]

Windows.xp as a name. You know this gonna be a banger

[@ManBitter]

The irony that Windows.XP was the one who submitted the replay and called out a blatant cheater lmao Props to that guy for at least one blatant cheater replay tho

[@amirhafeji4840]

"Champ or cheater" sounds like a great series name

[@Squid6206]

It feels like someone is secretly walling in every other one of my games

[@mlg._.]

For the vigil one if you see where the models hands are the replay thinks he is holding the smg 12 so that’s the reason for the weird recoil

[@groweeb7283]

imagine if you are not cheating and see yourself on VG:s channel like this, thats a compliment and a half

[@gruphius]

VG: "How did they win this?" Sledge: *nades himself* That's how! :D

[@thattastesliketea2131]

might be a hack with zero recoil and the replay system doesnt detect it thats why you see the gun go up in the replays if so might be a easy way of finding them

[@1JamesZ]

The way northern was running and ready to peek as if he constantly knew where the guy was in the second round, you don’t run about like that unless you are sure of enemy positioning, unless you’re an idiot lol

[@Arkeno99]

Love this serie, helping out the algorithm.

[@Ghostkiller__166]

That buck I can tell you 100% has walls, look at the 2nd time in penthouse after scaring Jager too VIP he completely disregards theater then after Jager leaves VIP he immediately looked at penthouse drone hole. Not only is it extremely rare to check that drone hole but when you as a player have the suspicion that someone is at 90 your first instinct is to pre-aim theater door, instead he checks the drone hole as if he knows he's not at theater door yet. This is a problem because as a player you'd only check this drone hole in the situation if you were 100% safe, Jager had all the time in the world to peek theater and kill buck, and experienced player knows this, checking that hole is extremely high risk with a low reward especially in this situation yet buck is 100% confident with Jager's location every single time.

[@alespic]

WarOwl’s 3rd Law of CounterStrike (applicable in all 5v5 fps): A good enough player is virtually indistinguishable from a good enough cheater

[@jagergaming2281]

3:01 That actually is not a spectator glitch. That is a very common hack (that one of my friends showed me) that makes any gun have no recoil, but to any other player, it will look like there is still (poorly controlled) recoil.

[@andyhuynh5717]

My guess on the second guys recoil issue is he probably had like a macro that auto adjust for him and replay system can’t seem to pick that up Also another theory of mine is that people with walls that know where the enemy is whether they’re behind them or somewhere close without any information will throw a drone randomly and check the exact angle and use the excuse that they just droned them out even though they already knew where they were So basically what vg said it’s just another excuse for finding him

[@mrlefty-000]

the guy on villa is most likely using a no recoil hack and the replay system doesn’t know how to treat it

[@prester4375]

Yeah, he's also walling. Slightly turning his view so he can see everyones positioning.

[@HogggRIIIDDAAHH]

16:45 he didn’t look at wamai already he just looked at the door bc he maybe thought jager would swing?

[@emersonms6440]

the northern waves one its a no recoil cheat so the animation of arms swinging keeps resetting every frame and the replay tool doesnt compensate for it

[@hydrocurry6494]

16:40 Pengu could learn a thing or two from this in honor of Shaiiko

[@chasewhigham]

the way he looks through the wall then drones to pretend he's not using walls is kinda smart

[@autistYuki]

You should make a playlist of this series.

[@donnyfly495]

5:13 man obviously with aim bot head locking through stairs Vg: he could’ve heard him😂 Definitely dev material

[@WafflesDoesStuff]

Looking back, I am personally thinking NorthernWavez is using a recoil macro

[@dgforlife]

yea the macro makes it possible for him to not have to control any recoil but all bullets stay on his target, that’s why he uses r4c on ash every attack round

[@syed2444]

You should name this series CoC: Champ or Cheat

[@NoraNoita]

During Lan-Party with friends back in the day, we'd do a couple lan rounds in CoD4 with wallhacks and I can certainly see the, let's call them, 'defensive' back-tracks when you see someone approaching and then you wait behind the cover instead of immediately holding an angle instead. I'd do the same, and then say like oh yeah yeah sound. How we'd do it was like a raffle who was allowed to enable the wallhack during any given round. Also what you say about 'Confidence' yeah, definitely a tell, there's a lot less 'wasted' moves and going directly from one point to another because you don't think(well you know) there's no danger ahead.

[@FireFighterChen]

"His aim is atrocious, but his game sense is good"....yep that's me

[@poweractive896]

that sledge who ran into his nade had me dying lmao

[@kixiir2668]

I love these, Please Keep doing these varsity

[@loadstone5149]

Also, the third guy doesn’t check were people aren’t; but he could also just have a tactic of waiting for people to push him, it’s a genuine tactic

[@user-oz2wu5bo7c]

Varsity Detective over here 😂

[@rndolufv8965]

When he said, "level 86 but still gold, that is shocking" I nearly died laughing because Im level 60 and still copper lmao

[@iblnxyi4818]

I’m level 193 and gold/silver

[@abdxllah9983]

I think for the northern waves guy the replay only replays the mouses input for recoil control like it did for the others but since they were letting the aimbot do the aiming it didnt count as mouse input which shows there being no recoil control in replays

[@matdahl6728]

"like Roys champ crew" lmao that was literally the funniest thing cuz its so true

[@weeg.]

Bannedtm might just have really good headphones The other day I played with a diamond and if I made one move he could wallbang me Mans had the best sound

[@pokeydude]

Northern has a no recoil hack which basically wipes the recoil script from the main script, but for you, it is executing correctly so you have recoil, but he doesnt

[@virex2182]

The north guy could have so called tracers where as long as he has lined up with someone in his view the bullets will hit them even if he misses everything so he wouldn't need recoil control at all

[@LuChiNiDaDon]

This is so good because you can just send the hole video to Ubi

[@onesneekieboi7238]

1:19 That's me and my homies on defense actually getting beamed lol

[@CappinDaily]

A bit late but, when the recoil is how it is in the first clip it’s when someone uses no press and no recoil, on their screens they have 0 recoil, but in replays or spectator mode the game adds the recoil back in

[@brianpoirier7846]

I love this new series, it also helps me know what to look for in my games to help determine if I’m playing a cheater

[@merucrypoison296]

The only thing we’ve learned from this is separating reply is broken in half

[@speedKGDM]

I don't watch u for ur game play. I don't watch u for ur hacker vids, I Watch u cuz ur a real content creator. U haven't said anything so controversial that u cause problems. U don't start crap with randos cuz as a content creator u could be taking to a fan, u have no filter but also show that having no filter doesn't mean u have to be rude. Keep up the good work my guy. And don't let these hackers get in ur way

[@dinochan3560]

tbh a weird thing to note is that i dont think normal players would try to look at a wall, especially a hard wall, you would want to have your back against said wall instead of your face against it, look somewhere around 7:10, it was a brief look, but even so, i doubt any player would do that

[@yospitzz]

you should make more of these...

[@adeshpalsingh1468]

That recoil glitch could be from him using a no-recoil as the game doesn't register his physical mouse going down

[@kaushiksundaram4904]

Is that how the replay system works tho? I thought it was just like a recording but from everyone's perspective instead

[@cadenfinch4813]

My theory for the second guy is that he has a mod giving him zero recoil and the replay is automatically including it.

[@aspire7835]

if you get the glitch where the gun shooting sound goes on forever just click esc to pause and unpause it

[@koroki1304]

I love this series

[@theresthateke]

Gotta say im loving this series

[@gagesonny3048]

that second replay, the guy was using whats called "Silent Aim" it shoots the enemy, without you actually having to aim at them.

[@McBuff]

My guy, it takes about 3 seconds - sometimes less - to determine if someone is cheating or not, even without outlines. I learned how to spot them in TF2, and other games that DON’T have replays, so a game with replays/death cams is like easy mode.

[@DenaliJack]

Varsity you forgot to mention in the Villa game with NorthernWavez the fact that he just runs everywhere in the entry without droning and checking common hold spots without preaim/prefire. He just runs exactly where he needs to be 😂😂

[@mysteryguitarhaziq]

Considering the buck on round 2 it was a 5v1 situation with bedroom and VIP clear and they are planting so ofc he would rush a flank drone

[@wheezy_814]

One thing I’ve noticed cheaters tend to do, is hold angles where someone is GONNA pass through. Then look at someone who isn’t cheating, they’re more than likely gonna hold angles for 10-15 seconds when no one is near said angle.

[@RandomPerson-yq1qk]

To be fair though somone is most probably reported in a match where he gets a bunch of kills and has that kind of "luck". Statistically this kind of luck should happen every now and then and these people might then be reported. Therefore you definitely have to put the bar high on things that could just be explained by luck.

[@eddygmanisme]

The sledge self nade on kafe was top tier

[@junioraeyo3647]

Love these replays and commentary's

[@Annie-xu9dz]

I’m friends with Adept, Makina, and Javier from the Coastline match at 13:04 . I remember watching them stream this game and complaining about the cheater on the enemy team. hopefully this person got banned. It was extremely stressful on their team, as they’re pushing for Diamond this season.

[@itsme9679]

Thats the thing with siege, sometimes you can’t tell if it’s just luck or coincidences or if the person is actually hacking

[@white.chollo2547]

"How did they win this?" -Varsity Clip proceeds to show the sledge nade himself 😂

[@daddylilith987]

Northernwaves was using a softaimbot it pretty much changes where your barrel is pointing server side but visually it won't do anything like you won't snap to heads

[@synexzie4705]

I think the recoil bug in the 2nd replay is because he's using recoil macros because the same thing happened to me with a possible macro cheater

[@lw.559]

Already my favorite series

[@i.ak.1684]

I had that recoil thing on the kill cam when i got killed by a cheater in the match too. So its not just the match replay.

[@pietor3930]

The last guys was spawnpeaking with an echo drone above him. There could be a teamm8 telling him where they were peaking

[@jamaris3293]

when that lolly person spawn peaks he could be getting intel from the echo drone even tho echo died drown stays up

[@landonparker3885]

You should watch the replays without knowing who is suspected of hacking!

[@ss1lver]

Responding about future video names: I like something along the lines of "Caught in 4K: these cheaters begged me not to report them" because it seems like every time you catch someone, they jump into chat with "I'm totally not cheating lol plz don't report".

[@thevoidwalkerbr]

38 minutes?ohhhh I love it😈

[@tr1ple_axel318]

They all have a really good gaming chair😂😂

[@mannyheffley9551]

The northerwaves prick also used lagswitching. He has some aimbot but it's so shit at hiding it that it just messes up the recoil animation hence the weird replay.

[@superjlk_9538]

I played with MaKiNa before. He was on my team. He only has two games attached to his Ubi account. Both are Siege on PC and PS4

[@ПолинаКоролёва-ж4ф]

25:57 - я пытаюсь на слух представить, что за ник прочитал Varsity; спустя несколько секунд читаю его в списке наблюдения - "Попускатель". Так сильно я над собой ещё не смеялась xD