Are They Proven?! SUPER Vitrified Diamond Waterstones SHOW ME WHAT THEY CAN DO!! (long Video)

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@notcatfish
@notcatfish 3 жыл бұрын
On a serious note: having fixed many damaged tips, doing that without getting any dishing is insane....
@_Ardamax
@_Ardamax 3 жыл бұрын
Bravo for going through the extreme steps to make sure no can question the power of that stone!
@EDCandLace
@EDCandLace 2 жыл бұрын
These stones are simply to die for, the finest stones on the market. Coming from a professional sharpener they just don't get any better
@terrybodenhorn3508
@terrybodenhorn3508 3 жыл бұрын
Yesterday I used my brand new Super Vitrified 400 from BBB on a Shibata Kotetsu Gyuto in R2 (SG2). It wasn't extremely dull but had a few rolls and several relatively small chips - biggest maybe 1mm. Took maybe 15 strokes to remove chips and rolls and raise a burr, and another 12 or so on the other side. Deburred on the stone, then stropped w/ 1micron, 0.5, and 0.1 Gunny Juice. Stopped there and put that laser back in the kitchen, ready to go to work. This stone is outstanding! Thanks, Shawn.
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Terry, EXCELLENT review.
@grimreaper337
@grimreaper337 3 жыл бұрын
I had a spyderco pm2 in k390 , repaired some microchips in blade . Stropped on kangaroo with diamond . Buddy at the Veteran Affairs hospital whete I worked ran knife over his arm without touching skin , treetopped hair on his arm , a first for me . I've learned that sometimes I jump my progression too soon and have to start over from scratch. Having a coarse stone in the line up is essential. It was exactly what I needed . This black haired 60 year old Indian is stoked .
@MrEdgy81
@MrEdgy81 3 жыл бұрын
Love the ending! Cry at the price of these stones :( Now I fell like sharpening, lol.
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 3 жыл бұрын
Haha JASON! Yea the price is WILD but all the cheaper features to get the price down didn't perform as epic, so fuck it, give people the best.
@Deoffred
@Deoffred 3 жыл бұрын
@@FearNoSteel where can I look to get these ?
@en510
@en510 3 жыл бұрын
@@FearNoSteel I'm curious what were the shortcomings of the cheaper options
@Dynotop1a
@Dynotop1a 3 жыл бұрын
I only have very cheap stones and knives, so what you’ve shown me about this stone is truly exceptional! Or I guess you could say SUPER... I think my experience with those poor quality materials helps me appreciate stuff like this more and I’m glad you’re around to yell at us about it because I’d be none the wiser.
@stlchevy95
@stlchevy95 2 жыл бұрын
your technique is top shelf
@noaha2430
@noaha2430 3 жыл бұрын
I love it sharing asmr and breathing asmr 🤣. Great vid I just wish I could afford these cause I'd get one in a heart beat
@ragcage
@ragcage 10 сағат бұрын
Which company produces these stones?
@rottiejakeluke
@rottiejakeluke 3 жыл бұрын
Found your technique to be a fine example of how to control the steel on the stone. Thanks for taking time to show us it. Will you please send me the exact details for this stone and any others you’d recommend as complimentary stones. If you can send the actual links for purchasing them I will be very appreciative. Thanks again for the presentation.
@is9582
@is9582 6 ай бұрын
Truly enjoyed the video, even though I winced a bit as you were killing the knife’s edge on the belt sander. Lol I know I’m late to this vid, but might you share what sharpening stone and grit you are using? I saw the company name on the stone’s base, and with some searches, it seems like the Gokumyo , possibly a 15K? Just basing off of coloration that seems to match an ad. Thanks again in advance. Lee
@winstonvkoot
@winstonvkoot 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see this in lower grit and edge pro format as i put stone to blade
@barkingspider2007
@barkingspider2007 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work, thanks for the video 😎👍
@jamesrrr37657
@jamesrrr37657 3 жыл бұрын
Serious stone, no doubt. But I have to ask : when it dishes (because it will, at some point), how can you make it flat again ?
@ared18t
@ared18t 3 жыл бұрын
You lap it with an abrasive that is harder than the bonding material but the abrasives in this will abrade your lapping material.
@jamesrrr37657
@jamesrrr37657 3 жыл бұрын
@@ared18t Yeah, so SiC on glass I guess ? I'd like to see it done, I'd imagine it's quite a tedious process.
@mockit_rockit
@mockit_rockit Жыл бұрын
We wants one! When will they be back!?!
@Heizenberg32
@Heizenberg32 3 жыл бұрын
Listening to this in the background. I swear I can HEAR it getting sharper.
@Jack_The_Biker
@Jack_The_Biker 3 жыл бұрын
Any more of these being made soon?
@the_sharp_carpenter
@the_sharp_carpenter 3 жыл бұрын
Just like the knives my wife's friends send home for me to sharpen 🤣 jumping on the vitrified diamond train soon!
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 3 жыл бұрын
SUPER is splash and go baby
@the_sharp_carpenter
@the_sharp_carpenter 3 жыл бұрын
@@FearNoSteel it's my next upgrade once a couple knives head out. Literally done that exact same sharpening/tip repair and it just eats through my low grit stones and so dang muddy. The super looks like such a dream. Have you thought about a "combo stone" or not much savings over 2 separate base stones?
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 3 жыл бұрын
@@the_sharp_carpenter if only it worked like that to save cost
@rrcdean9461
@rrcdean9461 3 жыл бұрын
are you ever going to have these in small sizes for fixed angle systems. These stones are amazing but my coordination isn't :)
@kevinfitz3721
@kevinfitz3721 3 жыл бұрын
Not to speak for him but I believe he has said no time soon but you never know what the future holds! So take that with grain of salt
@leotam3372
@leotam3372 3 жыл бұрын
Was just gonna ask how they did with low end soft steels, and if the 400 grit was fast enough for reprofiling! That tip looks like my shitty dexter russell after it got pushed off my counter onto a ceramic floor.
@beardedarchery3576
@beardedarchery3576 3 жыл бұрын
Where do you purchase some of these stones
@crusader5989
@crusader5989 Жыл бұрын
Hi, what brand/model js that stone? Thanks
@capolot
@capolot 3 жыл бұрын
But how do you flatten it when it eventually does dish? Awesome stone and skills bro.
@justinnemeth8931
@justinnemeth8931 3 жыл бұрын
And a tip repair! Awesome stuff man! that's some really nice cutting and anti load and dish. Definately a great stone, fast cut low maintenance and 0 soak time. Any plans on doing 1 inch stones for people who sharpen stone in hand?
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, just interested in benchstones
@justinnemeth8931
@justinnemeth8931 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again man really well done.
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 3 жыл бұрын
@@justinnemeth8931 Thanks Justin
@LetoAt77
@LetoAt77 3 жыл бұрын
If they do dish at some point, how do you re-flatten them and bevel the edges? Outstanding vid though brother thanks for sharing!
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 3 жыл бұрын
SiC and Glass
@draganpastrovic2157
@draganpastrovic2157 3 жыл бұрын
Will those stones eventually dish out? And if so how would you go about flattening it? Or is it just important using the whole surface of the stone as much as possible to prevent any eventual dishing?
@garethbaus5471
@garethbaus5471 2 жыл бұрын
They will eventually dish out (no whetstone is truly immune to dishing) but it takes a long time and can be corrected with some course loose grit on a large flat surface industrial diamonds on copper or aluminum would probably be ideal, but I would assume that aluminum oxide on concrete would eventually wear through the whetstones binder as well.
@0rezen0
@0rezen0 3 жыл бұрын
Have you, or has anyone, done a comparison between these stones and the Venev stones? I realize they are different and would assume that the super vitrified stones cut faster at each grit level. But that might not matter to those doing low-volume freehand sharpening if it is the only difference. What about feel? Dish rate? The Venev stones (I have some) need a refresh with a AO or SiC nagura to help expose the diamond abrasive. How about the vitrified diamond stones?
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 3 жыл бұрын
The Venev is much, much slower, loads and glazes and needs lots of dressing to function and will still be slow. The SUPER Vitrified Diamond Waterstone behaves like what you see in the video.
@0rezen0
@0rezen0 3 жыл бұрын
@@FearNoSteel Well, I'm interested in the vitrified diamond stones but not so much for their speed in repairing Henckels :). I'll contact you with more questions via your web site. Thanks.
@kevinfitz3721
@kevinfitz3721 3 жыл бұрын
I think a better comparison would be between the super vitrified from triple B and the regular vitrified from practical sharpening as far as I know there the only two on the market in the vitrified diamond category
@jonr1510
@jonr1510 3 жыл бұрын
Where do you recommend buying them from? Do they ever get loaded up or do they just wipe clean after every use
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 3 жыл бұрын
www.triplebhandmade.com/shop/x7wolsv44umrzpztvpk8ykt0cojrru-efb6r
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure a person can figure out how to load it but it's pretty damn resistant to loading.
@jonr1510
@jonr1510 3 жыл бұрын
@@FearNoSteel thanks! I just looked them up and your site popped up first in a Google search. Appreciate it
@mckaykimball
@mckaykimball 3 жыл бұрын
Is Maxamet your fav? What would you choose, Maxamet, K390 or Rex45?
@henryhenry7170
@henryhenry7170 3 жыл бұрын
0:30 just keep pushing haha
@seff2318
@seff2318 3 жыл бұрын
Unreal 😦
@kmopm777
@kmopm777 3 жыл бұрын
This question may be a crime in itself but.... Do you think they will make smaller ones for the guided systems?
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 3 жыл бұрын
Right now just freehand stones
@christopherskipp1525
@christopherskipp1525 3 жыл бұрын
Who sells these?
@troyounce3295
@troyounce3295 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna get a couple of those stones if I can find a buyer for my wicked edge gen 3 soon
@grimreaper337
@grimreaper337 3 жыл бұрын
Will there be a higher grit ? Like 8-10k ? Love my 400 grit . It is the real deal !
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 3 жыл бұрын
That's would be rad
@liamjack5944
@liamjack5944 3 жыл бұрын
Just how durable are these stones? Are they able to stay flat like a spyderco ceramic? or is the amount of dishing just very minor? Very impressive regardless! I'll probably pick up a 1000 grit next time they're in stock :)
@tompossessed1729
@tompossessed1729 2 жыл бұрын
They dishes out very slowly since it a resin bounded due to them not being a soild piece and they come with a dressing stone
@benjaminkim7693
@benjaminkim7693 3 жыл бұрын
Wow what grit was that stone? And are these on the market?
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 3 жыл бұрын
www.triplebhandmade.com/shop/x7wolsv44umrzpztvpk8ykt0cojrru-efb6r
@wachinstuf
@wachinstuf 2 жыл бұрын
Are they ever making these again? They seem to be on permanent out of stock
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 2 жыл бұрын
Not very profitable
@wachinstuf
@wachinstuf 2 жыл бұрын
@@FearNoSteel no sales or low margins? Either way that’s a shame. JKI’s version (800 grit) has been perma OOS as well
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 2 жыл бұрын
Same problem
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 2 жыл бұрын
If it was no sales they would be in stock eh?
@wachinstuf
@wachinstuf 2 жыл бұрын
@@FearNoSteel reason I ask is that if margins were slow and they flew off the shelves, why not maybe raise prices? Just curious, I was hoping to try one out
@thehamburgler8710
@thehamburgler8710 3 жыл бұрын
How do i send you my knife to sharpen? I have a pm2 maxamet i just cant get to take a wicked edge.
@kevinfitz3721
@kevinfitz3721 3 жыл бұрын
What grit are you starting out at? And are you forming a burr? And what stones/ system are you using? Its like any other steel just takes a little longer but also depends on the abrasives if using diamond or cbn its really no longer to sharpen than any other steel. I would recommend not going below 300 grit for maxamet.
@nevillesavage2012
@nevillesavage2012 3 жыл бұрын
any thoughts on a aet of diamond stones from Bob Kramer? Id love to know. I have been using water stones of different grits to a black Arkansas Stone. I only ask because I respect your opinions
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 3 жыл бұрын
Bob Kramer doesn't make diamond stones, there is a "Shapton Glass" ceramic water stone line that Zwilling JA Heckles sells as a Bob Kramer sharpening kit. The work just fine, but won't hold a candle to the firepower on display with the Super Vitrified Bonded Diamond Waterstones.
@nevillesavage2012
@nevillesavage2012 3 жыл бұрын
@@FearNoSteel Thank you so much for your reply. I have a very interesting sharpening stone that I got from my father it's about 4" by 3" and it feels like it's made of plastic or the softest clay ever and produces the most amazing polished edge.
@nevillesavage2012
@nevillesavage2012 3 жыл бұрын
I have not been able to find them on Etsy or on eBay or anywhere else and it is the softest thing ever it is dark Brown on 1 side andd finer on the other. I think it is some kind of clay. I would send it to you just you could check it out. It is an heirloom but You are awesome. My email is the same +@gmail
@nevillesavage2012
@nevillesavage2012 3 жыл бұрын
or reply and Ill hook you up with more :)
@z-clashtv3446
@z-clashtv3446 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. They are so informative. I want to ask you a question, can I sharpen my k390 bushcraft knife with naniwa 600grit profesional stone. The knife is 64HRC. I'm curious because I don't want to buy extremely expensive diamond stones :) keep up the good videos man.
@kevinfitz3721
@kevinfitz3721 3 жыл бұрын
It can but it might not be as efficient and might not cut the carbides properly, if you want to try diamond i would recommend the venev phoenix series there pretty inexpensive for what you get. Tom hosang outdoors on youtube recently just put up a video on his benchmade 940 in s90v and showed that ceramic edge didn't last as long as a diamond cut edge atleast on that particular steel. Hope that helps
@z-clashtv3446
@z-clashtv3446 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinfitz3721 Thanks for the useful info brotha 😀😀
@topfueljunkie100
@topfueljunkie100 3 жыл бұрын
I thought I'd throw another idea out there for you : 3M PSA backed diamond lapping films. It's the most inexpensive way to get into quality diamond abrasives that I know of if you're only dabbling in them and also want a wide variety of grit ranges. If you're sharpening an awful lot, a stone will be cheaper in the long run however. But a few dozens sharpenings? Shoot, give these a try for only around $12 a pop! They come in 8" x 3" individual sheets which have a sticky adhesive backing so you can stick it onto a variety of mediums to make your own diamond stones. Milled aluminum, granite surface plates, rectangular piece of glass, etc. Google Taytools online and you'll find them. They also have a "scary sharp" kit with 3 pieces of glass and a whole set of PSA (pressure sensitive adhesive) backed abrasive sheets in a variety of grits. Not what I'd recommend for steels like Maxamet as it's aluminum oxide abrasives in that kit, but plenty good for non super steels. You can always use the glass in that kit with the diamond films though! The main major downside to these sheets is that if you dig into them with your tip or edge, you can slice into them and damage them. But if you're careful or use trailing only strokes, this can be mitigated. If you're like me, it's fun to try different stuff and find what you like especially if it's not too expensive an investment. Lastly, I'll second the above poster's suggestion of checking out the Venev resin bonded diamond stones on gritomatic for a quality diamond product that won't break the bank. You can get them for a reasonable price, especially if you like to hold the stone in your hand when you sharpen and thus use smaller 6" stones. I got the complete 6" x 1" set (6 different grits across 3 double sided stones) for $110 last year. You can get single stones with 2 different grits for as cheap as $30. They're a great stone! Makes even 65Rc K390 easy to sharpen! BBB has some videos on them if you go back a few years.
@Sharpbevel
@Sharpbevel 3 жыл бұрын
Every time you dull a blade or crush the point I die a little inside. But then you bring it back to life. You’re like the Jesus of knife sharpening.
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@notcatfish
@notcatfish 3 жыл бұрын
0:19 I also like a toothy edge
@CrisGar76
@CrisGar76 3 жыл бұрын
Fantástico, saludos
@breoganlopez3943
@breoganlopez3943 3 жыл бұрын
by the way,how much does it cost??
@patrickg8744
@patrickg8744 3 жыл бұрын
an arm and a leg
@G_Thor
@G_Thor 3 жыл бұрын
The proof is in the sharpness. Pretty ironclad to me.
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 3 жыл бұрын
KILLER, what you think about the overall?
@G_Thor
@G_Thor 3 жыл бұрын
@@FearNoSteel I am still gaining a comfortable level of experience with freehand sharpening but there is no doubt that this material is something special. The tactile feedback is there. High HRC super steels actually have noticeable steel removable within the first pass. I haven't gouged the stone which (as a novice) I notice happens with less refined stones. Load-up is cleared off with a simple brush of the hand and some water. A bit more subjective but the presentation, look, weight and size give me the feeling of a valuable object. The stone begs to be used. We expect a certain level of glassiness with high grit stones but the 400 feels sinfully smooth while still hogging steel. It is somewhat rapturous.
@anthonycapo1998
@anthonycapo1998 3 жыл бұрын
@@G_Thor That was probably the best description i've ever read lol
@Ripa-Moramee
@Ripa-Moramee 8 ай бұрын
Holy fuck the start of this video hurt my soul, nice vid though.
@Rootori4
@Rootori4 9 ай бұрын
Fast Cutter 😅 and i sharpen my Ass of an Malanika CPM V4 with Naniwa Chosera 400. I had to remove the Microbevel.
@samlee458
@samlee458 3 жыл бұрын
wow. where do i get one of these stones?
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 3 жыл бұрын
www.triplebhandmade.com/shop/x7wolsv44umrzpztvpk8ykt0cojrru-efb6r
@samlee458
@samlee458 3 жыл бұрын
@@FearNoSteel ty
@timyoung715
@timyoung715 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy shit right there 😳
@kabes1776
@kabes1776 Жыл бұрын
Holy sht
@steeltoez8345
@steeltoez8345 3 жыл бұрын
Take that surgical stainless 😁😁🖖.
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 3 жыл бұрын
Screams at knife*. "go to your home!"
@steeltoez8345
@steeltoez8345 3 жыл бұрын
@@FearNoSteel the neighbors knife never knows where "home" is. Retired to the can life now.
@knifesharpeningnorway
@knifesharpeningnorway 3 жыл бұрын
Want to trade a kidney for some stones? Only way i ever can afford em. The performance of them just looks insane
@sic5168
@sic5168 3 жыл бұрын
Kidney stones would have a whole new meaning
@knifesharpeningnorway
@knifesharpeningnorway 3 жыл бұрын
@@sic5168 haha anyone passed a kidney stone and tried to sharpen with it? 😅🤣
@brad3741
@brad3741 3 жыл бұрын
You beat that knifes ass, then resesatated it. Just when it thought you cared, you threw it away like garbage.
@HPAcustomriflesandcerakote
@HPAcustomriflesandcerakote 2 жыл бұрын
I run Naniwa Chosera stones on standard carbon steels and on premium super steels I was using DMT diamond stones until they failed so I went to Naniwa Diamond stones. Yes they are expensive but I'm also a professional. That being said I would never buy this stone this guy is using when the price is $450 per stone. Someone is pushing for early retirement when I see a price tag like that
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 2 жыл бұрын
You don't know, what you don't know. I would argue with you but you've already made up your mind and I don't even care. The people that purchased this Stone enjoyed it it doesn't even make me money I did it because of the love for sharpening and the performance you are completely ignorant to the cost of things and you don't know as much as you think you do. Choose your words carefully because I ain't paid enough to deal with riffraff and my patience has worn thin over the years.
@maartenmeerman378
@maartenmeerman378 2 жыл бұрын
@@FearNoSteel riffraff 😁
@matthewweaver1123
@matthewweaver1123 10 ай бұрын
​@FearNoSteel since the super vitrified stones probably won't come back, is there a close second that you would recommend. I got the shaman 15v a couple of days ago and got a screaming sharp edge on DMT dia-sharps, but i see what people mean by no feedback on those plates the harder the steel the more noticeable. Is there something better for this awesome steel? Also your heat treat is killer. You can tell it's hard as hell but seems like it will still take some abuse.
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