Are Trail Bikes Better Than Enduro Bikes?

Mountain Bikes these days are incredibly versatile tools, but are different bikes better than others? Neil & Blake are out in the Forest of Dean Cycle Centre to put an Enduro bike against a Trail bike to see which one is the true jack of all trades and can be crowned their ultimate MTB!
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[@charlesstafford1564]

I've got a trail bike with 140mm/120mm travel. It's definitely less forgiving on big mountain descents, but it is way more fun in the valleys and foothills, where I do most of my riding. I think it's also easier to learn new tricks on a "smaller" bike. If you can only have one full-suspension bike, I would vote for the trail bike.

[@alexerioeduardo2844]

A DH rig for the park and a Trail bike for pedalling. Perfect combo!

[@lakaldrak]

Enduro for both👍 dh Bikes are for straight ye useless for me azleast

[@gmbn]

That could be the perfect bike combo as you get the best of both worlds! 👍

[@chrisricetopher21]

Editor either needs a raise or he just got one! Super sick cuts and jams. Great work.

[@justinjohansen5992]

It also comes down to fit and geometry. I recently compared a trail bike to an enduro. I ended up getting the enduro because I felt like I was down inside the bike and a part of it versus the trail bike where I felt more on top of the bike. I didn’t like that perched up feeling, like I was tippy and out of balance. The enduro is longer and slacker, I can find the balance point easier, I’ve got more room to maneuver and more bike in front of me allows me to be more confident and aggressive. I’m over biked for 90% of rides I do but that 10% of unexpected gnarly chunky rocky rooted out nastiness doesn’t spoil my ride. The enduro is ready to eat it up.

[@Celeon999A]

The difference between both bike classes are so small, you have to descent really aggressively to notice that difference at all. And i would even dare to claim that most people would not be able tell apart what is what, if one is given to them for a test run without any information.

[@The2808erik]

Most people don't even ride jump trails or any trails aggressively.

[@jeffreydzialo]

Id say most could tell on the 1st climb.

[@fpainchaud350]

Well when you face a gnarly section steep with possibly rocks, the Enduro bike will be more permitting (or forgiving). It helps you trust the bike even more!

[@czfnbr]

my local trails i rode agressive one both of them and the enduro feels so much smoother and more capable over rooty and rocky sections

[@ghostAFsky]

I completely disagree. If by most people you mean non-riders, sure. But I rode a Slash for a couple weeks and it was like a monster truck compared to my Fuel EX. Everything feels different. I didn't jive with it.

[@stulpnerkarl6062]

Awesome video, thanks Blake and Niel! (hopefully Niel is not in too much pain) I have an 27.5" Enduro Bike with 170 mill travel and lovin it. 💚😎

[@andrewince8824]

Nukeproof Mega?

[@gmbn]

Glad you enjoyed! Neil is doing great since the crash (just some gnarly bruises)! 😬

[@stulpnerkarl6062]

@@andrewince8824 Radon JAB 10.0 HD

[@LZ13409]

super nice style of cutting the clips and the music.... keep it up!

[@gmbn]

Glad you liked it! It was cool to try a new edit style! 👊

[@digital.olimon]

A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one.

[@GRP_RIDE]

I have a 180 - 170, it is great for me, I'm not the fastest, it is a do all bike with a lot of smiles, pushing me to improve when going up and letting all the joy going down

[@121srki]

Currently own a Merida big trail 400. Love it. Yet to test it out for winter riding 🤣. Love your videos. Keep it up 🤘

[@jiddestulp8240]

Love the new style of editing with the Rap.

[@gmbn]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed! 👊

[@Kathie1410]

love the pinkish POC Axion

[@brownzys7299]

Ive just ordered my first enduro bike :) all in parts Im so excited (propain tyee 29 cf)

[@gmbn]

Nice!! You'll love it! Safe riding! 👊

[@brownzys7299]

@@gmbn Im very excited, gonna tag you on IG in some pictures when its done :) a speedy recovery to Neil!

[@chacaf22]

I came from a Hard tail not long ago because someone car crashed my Enduro bike, and I almost go for a full mid range Trail Bike (Norco Sight A2), but importer delayed me so much, than last year I ended up going for a 2022 Enduro frameset (Transition Spire), and transplanted all from my old 2015 Enduro Bike to her, what a hell of bike ,it's a Frankenstein, but it's so forgiving, only fall once in a rockgarden, low speed trying a New line and the front wheel locks over a bump hole bigger than the wheels Then someone a Month ago buyed that same Norco (almost a year after BTW), I made the right call, The Trans looks more robust, weight the same, wider tires, and the Fox DPX2 Factory goes on another lever of ridiculousness from a Sunday ride

[@The.JZA.]

I've owned a 120mm, 140mm, 150mm and a 165mm bike and I think the 140/150mm was the best "all rounder". Still enough travel to do anything and go anywhere (except for the absolute most gnarly downhill trails). 165mm+can obviously go anywhere but you will be on a heavy and "slushy" bike that is hard to pop/bunny hop etc. 120mm is super poppy but feels too harsh and not capable enough for rowdy trails. So yeah, for me the 140/150mm travel range is the best if you can only have one bike. I just ordered a new Stumpjumper 15 Expert (145mm rear travel). Can't wait to try it out in a couple of days.

[@MikP86]

Hows the 15?

[@The.JZA.]

@@MikP86 Awesome bro. Really nice bike. Handles well, suspension is so smooth with that new Grip X2 damper on the front and the Genie really does feel super plush but without dampening the pop too much. I'm still running the stock spacers but will try out more spacers in the future to see how it feels. Really happy with it so far.

[@MikP86]

@The.JZA. Glod for you, man. I got a stumpjumper evo comp alloy. Enjoy. Looking to getting the 15 in alloy hopefully.

[@The.JZA.]

@@MikP86 Nice one bro. Hopefully not too long to wait!

[@MikP86]

@@The.JZA. God bless.

[@STSmithable]

Bird am9 160/150mm rocks at everything including 30 mile epics

[@ozielmelendez]

It’s Almost magic since a rode a trail bike I’m actually planning get an enduro but after watch this video I feel more comfortable with my trail bike

[@davidgeorge7443]

Cool new camera shots.

[@rsmithuk]

Enduro bike, Neil nailed it at the beginning, Jack of all trades, master of the most important one ;-)

[@gmbn]

Yeah, enduro bikes have got to be the ultimate do-it-all MTB!

[@powertapping]

I believe it comes down to the terrain you live in. I live in big mt country and an enduro bike clicks all the boxes especially the confidence box. I’m 63 and like to show up a little over gunned than under gunned. Getting hurt hurts a lot longer these days. I like to push it and I’m not as willing to go for it with less trail and rake.

[@wtfchazpwnt]

Where you live is really the deciding factor. If you live somewhere with elevation it's usually a safe bet to invest in an enduro bike.

[@Xgecko66]

Depending on the brand a lot of modern “trail bikes” are just Enduro Bikes from 5- 7 years ago. That said most people today are over-biked…..as I learned when I built up a hardtail to stand in while I overhauled my Full-suspension. Very little of my daily/weekly/monthly riding needs a long travel trail bike/enduro and riding one made my riding almost boring

[@doctajuice]

I personally have really flat local trails but I like to travel to bike parks so I have a 120mm hardtail and a 160mm Enduro. Between the two all of my personal riding scenarios are covered

[@benjy288]

I went from a 150/160 enduro bike to a 120/130 trail bike, and the shorter travel trail bike is much more fun, its more nimble, more lively, more playful, the extra suspension on the enduro bike soaked up all the little trail features and made a lot of tracks a bit boring, and on top of that the trail bike can still handle all the tracks the enduro bike could.

[@SugmaDLigmaNutz]

What region do you ride? What type of trails do you ride? If mostly CX type terrain, no overly steep dh sections, that could be the case.

[@benjy288]

@@SugmaDLigmaNutz I'm in NZ, I've ridden at the christchurch bike park and the queenstown bike park, I've ridden it down heaps of steep double blacks and it handles it no problem, its a norco fluid fs1, its still relatively slack with a 66.5 degree head angle, I think the geometry matters more then how much suspension travel you have.

[@45H4W]

For me I've been smashing my 40K times on my Enduro, that were set originally on my XC bike (yeah I know its not Trail and was 120mm front & rear) and n0w find I'm riding more sections that I would have walked previously. These are trails suitable to XC. It did play on my mind many times when waiting for the Enduro bike to be delivered, that it would be a tank, but it has proven to be so much more than I expected.

[@Rawkus919]

Same. I XC my Enduro all the time. No need for a trail bike at all anymore.

[@edwardvanwormer6993]

I have both a130/120 Marin Rift Zone trail bike and a 160/150 Marin Alpine Trail carbon 2 enduro bike. For me the enduro bike is more comfortable on everything but rides with lots of technical climbs. The trail bike is definitely fun on flowy decents,but if I could only pick one it would be the enduro.

[@corgibuttz2550]

I live in Louisiana so I went for a trail bike. No big downhills where I'm at. I went w/ a 5010 and it's killer.

[@luiscastagna4944]

Enduro for sure, if you are fit enogh to pedal uphill. My rig is a Giant Reign, I love it!

[@garykerr]

Those riding vlog shots were pretty cool.

[@mattwasMTB]

I picked up the new Scott Genius 920 this summer. Oh dear Lord. This bike was marketed for doing it all and it really does. 170 up from 150 in the back, and full lock out mode for the climbs. I've mashed on all the single-track in our area, thrashed all the curbs and stairs on campus and even smashed some jumps bigger than I've ever been brave enough to hit before. Now if only someone would showcase it on The Bike Vault 🧐

[@barryblacka5641]

Sorry, I just woke up from my coma, shenandoah 100 was in Sept and I'm finally beginning to walk after a broken leg. Chaos can hit the fan after so many hours on the trail. Night time is sketchy, so proceeded with caution. When I start walking better I'll be training for next year. Enjoy all you do! Just know, there is a difference between enthusiast and hard core. You are the source of your own limitations. Follow my advice and keep it resonable.

[@Shauny808]

New video editor 👌🏼🙌🏼

[@gmbn]

Glad you enjoyed the different style! 😉

[@jamesweldon8118]

Awesome edit

[@gmbn]

Thanks, James! The team did a great job on this video!

[@mvictorgroup]

Absolute G's!! Pleasure to watch you hitting them trailzZzz

[@askdlfjw]

130/120 is the way to go for everything

[@JohnyDiV]

I love the enduro that I have, 180 front and 160 back, it feels limitless, but on climb not so much fun, but still love it. Trail bike is wonderfull and all you need for a country without to much elevation, where trails are mostly flat or short descend, but the confidence an Enduro bike gives you is way more rewarding.

[@gmbn]

That sounds like a beast! Your bike must feel amazing going downhill! We totally agree that enduro bikes are so confidence inspiring! 👊

[@joshuaallswang8016]

@@gmbnhey then you see a guy on a 10 year old hardtail ride the same trail you thought was tough… it’s the rider not the bike bro.. it’s all in your head. An extra inch of travel isn’t much at all.

[@JP1THUG]

Hope you're ok Neil. Trek remedy for the win, i love it. Xc, light/heavy trail and bike parks to. Off to bpw tomorrow for a overdue session.

[@marcguerino5645]

Got my first trail bike and love it! I'm a pretty casual rider so love that's it's just a reliable all around bike. I had some nasty shifts and a crash today, so seeing both those things happen here made me feel better 😂🤙

[@cedricgtrable]

I bought recently a trail bike (150mm travel) because I Don't jump and its absolutely capable to run Enduro tracks

[@rah4981]

I use my enduro bike on everything that is not asphalt , except winter then I I ride it everywhere with studded tires. The winter were I live lasts half year with snow and ice. The bonus is when I ride my road bike in the spring it feels like a rocket. I haven't regretted once that I bought the Enduro bike, 14,5 kg is not that much weight for a massive super comfortable 29'er that I can even ride downhill with.

[@cantbuyrespect]

I have a 150/160 trail bike with a 67 degree head tube and have only felt under biked 1 time. This was at a lift-access downhill park that was gnarly in some sections. People on enduro bikes felt under biked too in those sections. In every other situation I have been in my bike felt 100%. I cant bomb a hill that isnt at a lift access park faster than the bike can handle. I am over-biked 99.9% of the time. Trail bike it is for me.

[@felixhawkins5922]

i like the new editing style

[@gmbn]

Thanks, Felix! 👍

[@Innogrouphongkong]

Neil you made my pain (for my yesterday OTB) look much more bearable after watching yours. "mal comune mezzo gaudio" (common soreness, half a pain) Be better soon

[@poguemahone5476]

I'm not sure I'd consider 160mm a trail bike in the UK. I've got a 140mm trail bike and it's great for, um, trails with small jumps, rollers table etc. Lures you into thinking you can hit anything but it does get overwhelmed and feels like a little bike on big features. Pedals great. Now I'm buying an enduro bike because I want to go racing. And while I could on the 140 I'd feel much safer with a stiffer chassis/fork combo and 20-40mm more travel and won't mind the climbing being a bit soggy.

[@Kmikazzz]

In doubt, take a Bronson! Best bike I've ever own. MX, 160mm front 150mm rear.

[@andrewince8824]

In fairness, Danny Mac started his MTB career on a carbon Bronson and the first MTB edit he put out was insane. Super capable bike.

[@adamwright2477]

Had a norco sight 160, 150 whilst I loved it super capable recently purchased a specialized enduro. It’s in another league!! Gives bags of confidence and climbs half well too. Enduro bombers all day 🤙🏻

[@Hunter-sm7vz]

Momma always said it’s better to have it and not need it vs to not have it and need it

[@barryblacka5641]

It's OK to sacrifice a little agility for rough, downhill confidence, which equals safety first. My enduro is the YT Capra 27.5 which is a fully capable all rounder.

[@willienillie6337]

I did the fast gone this weekend and crash. My helmet saved my head and part of my left face. I said to myself, next time I’ll approach this downhill corner a bit slower.

[@MatthewSparkes-v3s]

I'm a recent convert to the mtb world, riding a 2012 Cube LTD Pro hardtail with 100mm travel, and let me tell you, I had NO Idea of how many types of mountain bikes there are! I've been learning my local trails at Dalby Forest, bombing it down red and black trails, following people with massive wheels, massive tyres and massive full suspension bikes. I've never ridden a full suspension, but let me tell you, I WRECK every single of the hardcore mtber's on the way up the trails and I get all their respect for just about following them on the way down 😂 win-win I'd say! Well, win-loss tbh, I've had two pinch punctures in only 6 rides, oops.

[@barryblacka5641]

Best suggestion for the bulls estream evo 45 am are 2.4 maxxis high roller II. Save the 2.8's for the beach surf.

[@thomasboard7350]

I recently got an Enduro bike from Marin (160/150, 29er), which was an upgrade from my 10 year old Trek fuel ex 26" that was falling apart. I don't think I'm overbiked since the majority of my rides are technical black diamond trails, which the new bike is more suited toward. The Fuel was easier to climb with, than the enduro bike i'll admit. I'm not the fastest up or down, but I love having the extra squish for gnarly DH runs. I'm most looking foward to summer park season, with the new enduro vs the 26er i took to the park last summer.

[@andrewince8824]

You're both wrong. The king is a 26" slopeduro. 125 on the back, 150 on the front. Beefy 2.4 tyres (Conti Der Kaiser). SRAM Eagle to go, Magura to stop. 35mm reach on the stem and 800 on the bars. It genuinely does everything while looking sexy as hell.

[@stevenkilleen8149]

Enduro all the way fast downhill and still fun to jump and pedal around

[@arcmal91]

The real question is how do you guys mount your camera like that. That looks very cool especially with a 360 camera

[@lmc333]

late to the party, but you guys when all in for this video... especially Neill, hopefully you've recovered since...

[@TheRSChippe]

Trail vs Down country next?

[@acedotcom]

FGWQ is literally my life's motto

[@joggadoggy]

I have an Enduro and use it for everything, having said that if I could afford a trail bike as well then I would get one for sure

[@TheMoodyedge]

What next, skateboard vs rollerblades. Kings of the rehash.

[@ThePieeetrek]

I like new idea of making bikes like „small enduro” like spectral 125 for example. And Because of It’s shorter travel then spectral I think It gives more fun, It’s roughter, You need to sweat a bit more on same course as on spectral.

[@polandadam98]

I have the best of both a banshee phantom with a pike dual position, when climbing i have lower down to about 120mm, and once I'm doing downhill I have make it 150-160mm.

[@johnsonjay60]

I like 150mm up front for enduro racing. Im only 145 lbs.

[@sulfurlad]

It may be a regional thing, depends where you ride. I've found for the eastern Canadian rockies, I'm loving the enduro bike I just got. Climbs just as well as my trail bike did, but is way quicker and more planted downhill. Lots of vertical, lots of rock, enduro was an upgrade for me.

[@wyatberp3611]

eastern Canadian rockies?

[@sulfurlad]

@@wyatberp3611 sorry, more precise. The eastern edge of the Canadian rockies. 😀

[@mindless7577]

Fun video again👍👍 My bike has 160 up front and 150 at the back,does this make it a trailuro bike?

[@ickebins6948]

All down trail mounduro bike... Those names getting worse and worse... 😆

[@joachimdo7096]

Super Fun Comparison! More of it!! :-) I hope Neil will get better soon, but he is a tough guy! He will recover soon! And thanks for not cutting it out! It´s something we all can learn from! It´s the reality!! Thanks 100times!!!

[@matthewburress1]

4:27 Flip it and Chip it brah! 🤙

[@dtremblay17]

I got a Scott Genius with 150/150mm travel and it gets almost anything done!

[@barryblacka5641]

You guys want to do some mountaineering? How about hiking trails open for bikes. Good rough and challenging, lots of rocks, Come out and do the Shenandoah 100, held every fall in October. Can take up to 24hrs depending on your condition. If you don't mind hiking a bike combined with trials, alot of technical, very little flow if non at all, some flat gravel for breaks, We are here at stokesville VA usa. Nearby features are reddish knob by briery branch, down to West Augusta, towards Covington/douthat state park and beyond. We welcome you to test your endurance. Even if you choose not to race because mother nature and human frailty always wins, there are check points with assistance if you want to fall out/DNF. This us the ultimate test of trail vs enduro. The deciding factor is if you can hang for a finish. Would REALLY enjoy seeing you there. If not, the multiple loops can be dissected into sections, and are the ideal test and proving grounds for riders and bikes while enjoying picturesque vistas. A bikepackers delight for overnight/extended adventures. You just have to earn the memories, nothing is easily given. A bit remote, support is @ 30 - 50 mi either direction. .

[@williambreeze2659]

If you can only get one I'd pickup a longer travel trail bike like the specialized stumpjumper Evo

[@marknorton3951]

Not exactly enduro terrain though. I love and miss the UK, and expect to be moving back there. It’s just not challenging riding. But none of that matters. The only important thing is to ride the bike you’ve got. A lot. Our ability matters a lot more than our bike 🤙

[@OTBkid]

Megatrail for the trail, Gnarvana for the mean stuff.

[@UnformedLump]

I love watching u guys ride all these amazing bikes!!! I wish I could show y'all what I can do even on my cheapo depot mongoose rig🤘😎

[@1969Escobar]

ENDURO FOR ME, cheers

[@bleed_from_within_is_life9960]

Id love to have sum that bombs down hills extremely fast but where i normally ride is half uphill and half down And the rest is just flat

[@ersonvelasco2531]

I like that Jack Russel of a bike!

[@joescott7500]

Neil got the mark of sauron on his thigh

[@bhbeast5380]

I love your videos keep it up

[@gmbn]

Thanks for the support! We're stoked you're loving the vids! 👊

[@flynnmoloney3390]

At least Neil sent it 🤟

[@antog42]

Yup, horizontally and without his bike 😂

[@gmbn]

💯%

[@charlie9ine]

I bought an enduro bike five years ago. It’s now a trail bike. 10mm travel isn’t a big deal.

[@markjones4896]

Wish I could own both but I presently own an aggressive trail bike , INTENSE PRIMER S 29er

[@gabrimaga1023]

i was waiting for a video like this lol

[@gmbn]

All your dreams have come true! 😂🙌

[@Stockfish1511]

Well Trek Slash it is then as much as fuel ex looks cool. Slash it is.

[@bobothericefarmer1878]

Trail if ur on a budget and want smt to do everything but if u could get an enduro and a trail

[@720Tmoney]

Enduro hardtails are, without question, the best do it all package

[@arronspuddylaird5357]

I like Neil’s bike it red but i believe it’s the bike to own

[@arronspuddylaird5357]

Why me every time

[@tomridesmtb7014]

I just got a new dually and watched Blake’s new bike day video and he was right your friends have to jumps on it and squeeze the guts out of the brakes 😢

[@adrian_veidt]

Both great bikes that barely have any differences. Ofcourse downhill bikes and hardtails are the coolest 😂👍

[@gmbn]

The difference between trail and enduro bikes is often bigger than you think, but there is no doubt, hardtails are sick! 😅

[@downhilljedi]

I prefer the Enduro bike. Capable on my local trails and still capable when I go to the bike park. My 150 travel trail bike gets sketchy on the rough trails.

[@williamkeys5701]

It's been a theme on this channel that Neil will crash semi-regularly. Keep pinning Neil! Those of us with a sense of self-preservation salute you.

[@anitalandkroon]

Nice video 😃😃 for me it's a trail bike 🚲 TMBN Trail MountainBike Naturally 😂❤

[@andrec.136]

9:14 lol. Clever!

[@TheShift1313]

I have a 2019 YT capra 27.5 with 180mm travel and enjoy it. Not sure i would really want less travel.

[@atk1097]

I believe you would see more difference changing the wheel size on these. I had a 29er bike (2.30 width tyres) that was somewhat sketchy in the turns etc but I went down to 27.5 plus size tyres (2.8) and it is unbelievable how it has changed the way I can ride it now, not skidding on any switchbacks, climbing over rocks etc just gives so much more confidence. Yes it is a little lower to the ground but so far no issues with pedal strikes etc.

[@mtibiza2]

The differences between these bikes are minimal but the feel will be different. It also comes down to how and what you ride. An enduro bike will be more capable, but on a less technical trail it might feel easy. I think this is where the phrase “over biked “ comes in. The right bike for the right trails. For me and what I ride a trail bike is perfect for 80% of it. The other 20% it will do but not be smooth.

[@METEORA_47]

im with 27.5 forsure 🤘

[@BogdanMerza]

Superb.😍. What accessories did you used to film yourself from the front going downhill? 🤔

[@louiefriesen]

I live in BC, so enduro bike all the way. Trails are too harsh for trail bikes.

[@Laurinmtb]

Enduro bikes are clearly better. They’re better for descending and let’s be honest we all only ride for the descends

[@RussianCatto]

you can climb on them too, its just a bit harder

[@Laurinmtb]

@@RussianCatto I know

[@RussianCatto]

@@Laurinmtb i like climbing

[@sootrattlerolloff-road1415]

..."It's just marketing"?....yeah, except the much longer travel of the enduro, the geometry, the tire casing/compound, the seat-tube angle, the heavier-built/more rigid frame, the heavier/wider wheels, larger rotors and normally better brakes...I can see how marketing duped us! In the case of the Polygon N9, (and others) the straight down-tube leaves less to get smashed. I currently have the Polygons N9 (enduro) as well as the T7 (Trail) both 2021. Factory 38 170/160 on the N9, Performance 36 150/140 on the T7. The T7 is the funner bike on everyday mixed trails as it's lighter and more agile and absolutely less a pain heading back up hill. That said, there is NO comparison heading off the side of a mountain when things get rough and sketchy...the enduro makes it a great time and I'm ready for another round. The Trail...not as much. I feel it in my wrists more on any trail bike I've had...even after upgrading the T7 fork. Of course component grade plays a part in all of it, as much as travel but, this has been the case in all the bikes I've owned...the enduro would be the bike if I had to choose one. The enduro can generally fake at all-mountain/trail better than the trail bike can fake at all-mountain/downhill. Now, for the super-corn...in the Winter (indianapolis), throw a set of Maxxis Hookworms on the enduro and go wow those city-slickers with your instant ultra cool looking curb-crushing Cadillac commuter, and use the trail bike for those sloppy winter trails. Just be sure you're packing heat...the risk of being robbed for that bling-mobile is high in the inner city! Ask me how I know!

[@fatdadonamountainbike9987]

That Rs spec reactor is 13.8kg, not 14.6. should be an absolute rocket.