Are We Getting MagSafe for Android?

It's the first episode of the new year! Welcome back to another episode of Waveform. This week, it's a classic gadget episode as Marques sits down with Andrew and David to talk about some impressive tech being released at CES 2023, Pixel 7 phones shattering, and the new Qi2 wireless charging spec that was recently announced. Does this mean Android users will finally get MagSafe accessories? We wrap it up by talking with Shen Ye from HTC Vive, who stopped by to show off the new Vive XR Elite headset!
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:47 AirTags
03:23 Samsung and Dell monitors CES 2023
09:36 Pixel glass issues
16:20 Trivia Question
17:38 Klaviyo [Sponsored]
19:08 MagSafe
38:33 Trivia Question
39:00 Ad break
39:02 Vive XR Elite live demo with Shen Ye
01:17:34 Trivia answers
01:22:25 Conclusion
Links:
Businesswire Press release: bit.ly/Qi2pressrelease
Verge article about Magsafe: bit.ly/Qi2Verge
Vive XR Elite page: bit.ly/vivexrelite
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[@sadmanshakib7646]

I love it when the 3 of them are on the podcast. Like 3 of them together should be permanent imo.

[@trackboy311]

Andrew can afford to miss a show lol

[@techboy95]

It already is

[@DaMoodz]

Yes!

[@SureshRajan]

100%

[@ztfilms5047]

@@trackboy311 yes lol he’s crazy boring sometimes and doesn’t add anything of value more often than not , David on the other hand would be an amazing regular co host

[@chasrifflord]

I love all the podcasts that David is apart of

[@Roythercom]

He should be a mainstay in the podcast for sure

[@nishantpatil1247]

+1

[@a1exsand]

Ditto

[@ngdnhatanh]

I do love to see David on the show only to see his frustration with the wrong trivia answer, omg love it so much 😂😂😂

[@robertwilcox9566]

A part and apart have almost opposite meanings in this context

[@imarchit]

Please have David on every Podcast

[@SonuOfBostonia]

Facts give David a raise

[@EoRdE6]

Please don't

[@Jeet24G]

Is David on full time now? He should be 👍

[@tonypadilla9596]

He is busy doing other stuff in the studio.

[@redamancyCT]

Love all the appreciation for David ✨ He makes the podcast so much more interesting and fun to watch :D

[@thelonelyloner7]

Shout-out to Andrew's new Mac cap 🧢 and man do I get more excited every time David is on the podcast!

[@albuslee4831]

This HTC guy blends in so well, it's like he've been there all the time. It feels so natural him in this group talking tech.

[@brock985]

Feels about as natural as a car salesman lmao

[@GuantaiN]

You never know when you miss David,... Until you do. He's awesome. He work he did on the Internet is still some of the best content I've seen in a while.

[@aradgouklani2239]

U know the andrew and Marques combo was ok. But David reaaaaally elevated the whole vibes of the pod

[@Kwotzi]

that ending was so good lmao, love the chaotic energy

[@VMYeahVN]

The Vive XR Elite is pretty impressive for it's design, modularity, weight, and weight distribution. The V2 or V3 with a better/more cameras to help with pass through distortion could really be great.

[@kab6754]

I might get the Vive XR Elite because it looks good, it seems promising, and Shen Ye is frank about the pricing

[@BoredGeese]

He sold me to VR indeed as well.

[@ornvannchai3867]

I hope u have David in every episode for now on.

[@TheBoss-bo1sc]

David should be on every podcast. Change my mind

[@peaupi]

Shen Ye's insight on VR, especially with comparing phone's history and VR's future, is really good. Glad you got him!

[@notspacedarlings]

So glad to see a new episode in 2023 let’s goooo 😎

[@RedAugust08]

Referring to the magsafe on other phones topic around 22:00, I actually found out just today that Spigen has what they call "Spigen OneTap Ring Adapter". It's essentially just Mag Safe shaped magnet strip that you can adhere to any phone. I know it's not as neat as having the magnets built into the case itself but it is another good option to add MagSafe to any phone... as long as you align it correctly.

[@HardyOh]

Imagine the actual 23rd season of WVFRM... We can only hope for Bangers Only from here on out. Edit: I understand it's Marques and Andrew as the hosts format but having David on, sharing his vast infinite research knowledge, I get giddy. Edit2: 36:19 "It makes sense if you don't think about it" - Adam, T-SHIRT IDEA BOOM!

[@caP.n_Jazz]

Love to see these getting longer. Can't get enough.

[@attomicchicken]

We had it. When I had the nexus 5, I bought the accompanying wireless charger. That thing had crazy magnets that would stick the back of the phone. If you didn't use the sticky pad to secure it to a surface then it would function the same as MagSafe. At the time, people thought it was annoying.

[@kaandalgic1883]

Make David a steady part of WVFRM, please. His intel and delivery on topics is very pleasant and it feels like the three of them are a well-rehearsed trio

[@Aeleas333]

It's awesome that you had Shen on. I'm super interested to hear reviews of the XR Elite.

[@jo3asytech]

My goal is to watch every episode of waveform podcast this year

[@PhewChurz]

That was a properly fun episode!

[@nasseralsharif]

Keep bringing David please. Respect for Marques & Andrew too 🙏

[@Morok2]

i love starting my Saturday in Romania 🇷🇴 with this podcast

[@Dullydude]

I'd love to hear what you guys think about the new Apple Books announcement of using AI to add narrated audiobook versions of any book! I've listened to some of the samples they released and it's sounding pretty awesome.

[@BlindMango]

I bet Apple wants to give people MagSafe because none of their phones are working consistently with traditional Qi wireless charging pads anymore, especially in cars - not sure if that’s due to the magnetic ring or the comically large camera bump

[@nexusyang4832]

I have to say the last 4 minutes of the podcast was gold. :D

[@KiranUttarkarAwsome]

Great that you’re covering XR/VR. I own Oculus Quest 2 and NReal Air AR glasses. I’ve found I use the NReal Air AR glasses every day with my iPad Pro or iPhone to watch KZbin, Netflix, Disney+ etc.. on 130 to 200 inch virtual screens. Whereas I have used OC2 once in a while ever since I had them. I feel claustrophobic wearing generic OC2 form factor HMDs. I love my NReal Air AR glasses as they’re very light weight and let me be aware of my surroundings and they look thick framed Ray-Bans. Less awkward wearing in public places. Hope other companies take notes from the NReal Air AR glasses.

[@jesuspadilla6428]

Loved the interview 👌

[@bj_]

When the wireless consortium mentioned additional "books" I think they mean in terms of standard formats, like "red book" audio format on CDs

[@ipikluninja91]

I love watching every episode David is there in. ❤ He so fun and interesting.

[@redamancyCT]

Also the producer cam is *chef's kiss*

[@harshmehta4847]

1:22:39 That thing was pitched by a startup on SharkTank India a week back. It has sooo many features it's insane. It allows the kid to call the parents by pressing the SOS button for more than 3 seconds. It sends notif and location of the watch to the parent everytime it is removed. It has a 0.5MP camera for facetime lol. There are many other features as well. They are also planning to develop one for elderly people who have difficulty in looking after themselves

[@pappamol]

I love how Andrew’s watch is looking, class colour combination

[@oriowotaiwo3233]

Y’all forgot to have the guest do the typing challenge😂 Great episode still🔥👏

[@1001GoodIdeas]

34:04 ok, so I think I understand what Apple’s plan with Qi2. Something that was only barely brought up was AirPods Pro 2 magnets, but I think that’s the answer. There are two different arrays in the case to support both the MagSafe puck, and the Apple Watch charger puck. I think apple will keep their separate array, with the alignment and processor as MagSafe features, as well as add the Qi2 array.

[@AgrPryansu]

hey is it a mix of the change in of size aluminum of the visor due to temperature and the glass

[@trackboy311]

David Imel the walking tech encyclopedia!

[@HereWeJoe]

About the pixel camera glass smashing...the same thing happened a few years ago with the S20 Ultra. Literally a perfect circle with that too

[@varadkarpe3565]

I have a screen banding and flickering issue on Pixel 7 pro, it only happens when the battery is less than 30% and there's not many mentions of it online

[@MrJudgi]

I think, that the Qi2 is not a problem with earbuds, because Airpods also have Magsafe, the "as they see fit" could mean, that they dont need a full circle but also just a small part (like on the Airpods case)

[@munyaradzimapanzure6184]

That outro by Andrew 👏🏾🎬

[@spareinetrip]

You should have a mic for both the hosts, love the podcast btw

[@kevindao1103]

We gotta have the video podcasts back on Spotify!

[@CozumelTy]

Love this show.

[@Aashiek]

The gentleman from HTC was great. His openness and honesty and lack of corporate speak was refreshing. Enjoyed the interview with him.

[@pedapudishanmukh4618]

Hey what if the magnetic array, and chip in the back is future is used to transfer data at higher data speed , which can be proprietary to apple for data tranfer in future

[@wgreenjr81]

My initial thought for the Pixels, is were they on a flight and the comparatively rapid pressure change of climbing or descending was more than the glass could withstand, potentially with frequent flyers where there is a history of rapid change and it finally fatigued.

[@ben_car_8115]

29:09 I personally think Andrew’s take is right. My guess is that they’re getting ahead of it so that they can make the “common standard” their technology without having to change in the future

[@Farbulus]

I flew from Oregon to Minnesota over the holidays, going from 20 degrees to -25 degrees in a few hours and luckily had no issues with my Pixel 7. Hopefully google changes their stance on the warranty claims for this.

[@IanZainea1990]

1:10:59 honestly, battery belt. That's how camera operators used to do it back in the day. It makes sense and sticks with you as you move. Run it down your shirt and the wire won't even get in the way of your arms.

[@heyitsomni]

I was waiting for the KZbin drop LESSGOO

[@AlanTorres-tl4ms]

This was an issue on Pixel 6 Pro. One day I opened up my camera app and saw a hairline crack on the internal glass, not the glass back, not the glass bar on the back, the lens itself. I did some research and a handful of other ppl on Reddit had the same thing happen.

[@guddu023]

Finally a podcast with Ye that won't get you cancelled!

[@CatPixStudio]

For non-magsafe-smartphones put ESR HaloLock on your case. ESR also has really good HaloLock accessories. All of them are compatible with Magsafe.

[@Bolafett_]

The watch that you mentioned at the end is a gizmo from Verizon. It makes and receives calls from 10 numbers and can be tracked. I sold them when I worked there.

[@darrenbutterworth807]

"Kids?" - perfect timing Andrew! 🤣🤣🤣

[@REVIEWSONTHERUN]

Cool! Thanks for sharing it.✌️

[@Faimp4]

Hey, just wanted to let you all know that the button on your website for Waveform podcast redirects to a wrong link. (same goes to Autofocus)

[@nathancasey7712]

Can the vive xr plug into a phone or laptop? I would love that to be able to watch videos on the plane or have a big screen for working on my laptop or play games on my steam deck.

[@iMikeTech811]

Love the ending! Lol

[@erickzelaya3651]

More of David please...

[@mcdoodleyt]

Keep David on the pod!!

[@stuffy613]

David BTW the airpods also work on a MagSafe charger with the magnets

[@jtp1984]

Will this be ideal for VR Sim racing even only 90hz?

[@chazamanaz8903]

Could you see about trying it the viture XR glasses, they were in Kickstarter and very interesting compared to the nr real glasses

[@Trip2Saturn]

I used Tile, which has even a better range. But I didn’t work on the airport due to the metal walls. So really I was waiting for the luggage but could really track it just before it came in sight. So I wonder how u guys do this?

[@jefferycampbell9182]

I think The Qi2 standard will say it uses magnets to align like you said, but "true" magsafe is the microprocessor communication between the "puck" and the iphone to talk to each other for features exclusive to Apple devices. But I am sure Android manufactures like Samsung can put Qi2 magnets in new phones and sell their own pucks that can have their own microprocessor to use features on Galaxy Devices also

[@arafatahmed3920]

Mix Reality is so useful. Imagine someone creating a program for educational purposes, or even for small medications, or in an operation theatre having it as an operating assistant.

[@derekl.6394]

You should sync the podcast version and the video versions so they can use the same time stamps

[@toshaks]

Any kind of wireless charging is converting electrical energy to magnetic energy and back to EE. So adding magnets complicates things for anything that produces magnetic energy hence Qi 2.0 for now is restricted to 15W. But higher power is solvable problem

[@Metro_Gnome]

David + constant throws to producer desk = The secret sauce recipe

[@swgtttt]

Will it fall if we just bend forward ? (Without the back strap)

[@tomislavjolic]

Apple is probably getting ready for mandatory standards from the EU and other countries when they implement them like they implemented the USB C standard so that they do not need to align with standards from others but that others apply Apple standard for wireless charging.

[@Harsh_kingzz]

it could be the metal around the glass expanding and contracting causing stress to act towards the centre .only way to know is to run a batch test for environmental conditions

[@FancyPengwing]

Very exited to see the magsafe coming to android. I'm curranty using the Peak Design Pixel 6Pro Everyday case. I'm using the Peak design wallet and car mount. It would be very nice to be able to use these accessories with out a case.

[@whiteb68]

The transition from monitors to “pixels exploding” was a bit confusing. Took me a bit to realize you where talking about the phone and not pixels on the monitors lol! 😂

[@derrickcrocker4265]

Does the Samsung tags, or tile work as good as the Apple tags?

[@HamsterHawk]

you can use the full size magsafe wireless charger on the airpods btw

[@salmansheikh8500]

is it just me, or the camera facing Marques have a really good lens attached to it. like quality of his skin and the skin tone is soooo good, I may have never seen something like this before. like the aperture on the camera looks like 1.6-1.8 as the background blur, but then the focus point is so long, from his nose to the back of his shoulder, is bizarly on focus, or maybe it's just a 35mm 1.8... I don't know.. just wanna know more about the lens. I watch all of the WVFRM episodes in 1440p but in this specific episode something looks different about the camera on the Marques face. Maybe I'm wrong maybe not..

[@shunitsu__]

the kids AirTag mentioned in the ending is actually a really popular thing in China called 小天才, basically a watch but really just meant for primary school students

[@MehranBolhasani]

I watch all episodes of WVFRM like it’s the most enjoyable thing in my life.

[@yehudadm]

David, you can actually charge the airpods on the regular magsafe charger 33:42

[@bobjwoogy]

The thing is even the non mag safe stands are more consistent than the horizontal chargers. I never use MagSafe just put my phone on the charging Stand and never have issues 22:10

[@DR3WXX]

Hey whats that wearable tech called??

[@NominalJoe]

As far as adding MagSafe to non Apple phones, it's not a case but OhSnap phone holders say it's adds the compatibility. I don't have the current version but I have the previous and I love it.

[@andreipop1]

The metal could contract and expand enough times to put pressure on the glass in such a way to cause stress.

[@VishnuAi]

Best waveform podcast!

[@hamza-chaudhry]

48:27 Respect the honesty 58:28 That's cool Andrew really came alive during the VR segment

[@hamza-chaudhry]

55:50 59:02

[@pauldiaz5417]

1:18:14 David is just so tired of Ellis at this point 🤣

[@neli5p]

It would be awesome if I could use the VR unit with my DJI drone!

[@obvinpro]

secondly, Apple's MagSafe magnet arrays were in a circle format. Qi 2 was going for a square and rectangle arrangement. RUMOR: Samsung has already planned to extend its Qi2 wireless module with its in-house chip. This chip was rumored to allow file transfer when plugged into a PC and perform other USB capabilities (flashing, access recovery mode, debugging mode, appear on android studio for developers) basically what wired USB does at the moment for future portless devices.

[@spluff]

*What if mag safe is supposed to be lightning cable 2.0?*

[@AnitaSV]

Did you take care of wide gamut corrections? Most people have only sRGB monitors. People using iPhone do get display p3. Search for WebKit wide gamut tests.

[@SrijanChakraborty]

Question for the group here, dont airtags drain battery off your iphone, because i always observe this that the "find my" app sips a considerable portion of battery overnight. I really had to disconnect my airtag and i saw a improvement in battery drain on my iphone. What do you think

[@xthetic.studios]

It makes sense though because it does use up battery to check the location of the AirTag presumably at certain intervals and that would use battery?

[@ru2225]

Happened to me only when the airtag isn't in a safe location. Once I set my house as a safe location, it didn't drain as much. Guessing its always pinging for location when it isn't in a safe location?

[@SrijanChakraborty]

@@ru2225 most probably. But the thing is I am always at home. How do I mark my home as safe? Thanks for the reply though

[@quellLeo8870]

I tried the moment mag safe case for the pixel 7 pro and ditched it. Now I use the mous case with mag safe sooooooooo much better.

[@Billygraham231]

Hey bro, OM6 has updated its firmware, with an upgrade to the intelligent tracking. Moreover, from my perspective, OM6 has a better center of gravity in its design, providing more stable support

[@dave_jeep]

I have a pixel 7pro and use a Spigen case with a Spigen magsafe ring on it. it works great with my desktop magsafe charge and magsafe pop socket