Are Widebody Chargers and Challengers worth the Money? Consider This!

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RacerX

RacerX

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@TheSaxyG
@TheSaxyG 2 жыл бұрын
I got a Scat Pack widebody: I think it's one of the best looking and handling cars I've ever driven. Compared to the RT I had before with 275s, the 305s and the better suspension have me making corners at speeds that would not be possible on 275s.
@patthetrucker5670
@patthetrucker5670 2 жыл бұрын
I got one too in 6speed manual. I get attention everyday.
@vf12497439
@vf12497439 2 жыл бұрын
Never having a wide body to compare with... my r/t on 245 fronts and 275 rears is the most amazing handling car I've ever driven. Was that your assessment before your scat pack wide body? I've had dynamic suspension on an off road machine and it was amazing. Same thing on the road I imagine where your amazed at the difference?
@ThePlutoArmy
@ThePlutoArmy 2 жыл бұрын
pretty true + 11inch wide tires hold well
@augustdrums1247
@augustdrums1247 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the look of the widebody, and everything with it. It's just hard for me to justify the 6k on it. That's $120 bucks more a month for fender flares, bigger brakes, and bigger tires and some suspension adjustment. So as much as I want the wide body, I end up getting the narrow and saving the money. But if it's in your budget hell yeah I say go for it. The narrow body comes with a new tire purchase right out the gate, but still less than 6k and it does have the classic lines. I swore I would get a wide body next time, but dealers are charging 5-10k over for the widebody and I got my narrow body for MSRP.
@leathernlatexmicrominiskir3784
@leathernlatexmicrominiskir3784 2 жыл бұрын
@@augustdrums1247 Don't forget those WB have a lower top end speed due to aerodynamics (if that's important to you and consume more fuel) but supposedly will outperform a HC on a roadcourse. Also you will definitely NEED PPF, rock guards like ZL-1, on all 4 wheel wells because those wide tires kick up debris, rocks, gravel etc. So you end up with a scratch up paint job and that might bother alot of people who are anal about keeping that finish nice. It will just cost more $$$ for the PPF as well when it times comes time to replace those 305 wide tires and brakes.
@patthetrucker5670
@patthetrucker5670 2 жыл бұрын
I got a widebody scatpack 6 speed manual and I love it. It brings me too much attention but I love it. The widebodys stand out because there aren't many on the road.
@TheEngine-q5h
@TheEngine-q5h 7 ай бұрын
I never see any and Im in chicago. I dont want one just for that reason
@got2getit204
@got2getit204 Ай бұрын
Well I’m in Michigan if I see another one ima turn into one!
@justpray365
@justpray365 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, you can get the adaptive suspension on the regular body, and drag mode suspension on the regular body 1320. The wide body Charger definitely looks better. The bolt on flare on the front of the Challenger cuts into the body line on the front fender. The Charger doesn’t have this body line, and the look flows better. I wouldn’t kick any of them out of the garage though. You look more natural surrounded by Mopars. It’s like putting on that favorite pair of comfortable shoes. It just fits.
@frankie072
@frankie072 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree that the charger widebody looks better,ive been trying to like it since it came out,at some angles it definitely looks good,from the back i hate it ,Im actually right now struggling with am i gonna get a widebody challenger scatpack a narrow body charger of a tow & go durango R/T
@karzilla810
@karzilla810 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree well said
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@TaysonPlaysGuitar
@TaysonPlaysGuitar 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of the wide body look on the challenger. I like how it looks without it more. But the charger is the opposite for me; I love the widebody look on the charger but am not a fan of the standard look.
@Avenue77
@Avenue77 2 жыл бұрын
Yea I'm not big on the widebody but I like the widebody bottom grill
@fullmetalmars8571
@fullmetalmars8571 2 жыл бұрын
Exact same for me, but I don’t mind the regular body on the charger.
@fahd3228
@fahd3228 2 жыл бұрын
Visually I like the narrow body more. The widebody gives the car Volkswagen beetle vibes
@user-ex9zm7bg3x
@user-ex9zm7bg3x 5 ай бұрын
Totally. On the Charger I would WANT the WB.
@selborx
@selborx 2 жыл бұрын
Yep worth it for the 392! No regrets, you end up with the best of both worlds… great suspension tuning & braking power to match the 6.4 power plant! If you are in doubt just do it and live a little bit!
@bonesmacgones7502
@bonesmacgones7502 2 жыл бұрын
What he said
@dwaintaylor7226
@dwaintaylor7226 2 жыл бұрын
After waiting 444 days and counting I have a VIN and a build date for the same F8 green widebody up here in Canada!! End of March beginning of April they tell me...believe it when im between the steering wheel and seat. Keep the content coming your videos have helped the wait. Thank you
@scottandrews4822
@scottandrews4822 2 жыл бұрын
The WB package also contains a shift light, 4 piston rear Brembo brakes to go with the 6 piston front Brembo brakes, larger sway bars, the Bilstein suspension that is adjustable with the drive modes, and the requisite exhaust valving with each mode. it's definitely not just a "wheel, tire, and FRONT brake" package.
@sexybitch6605
@sexybitch6605 2 жыл бұрын
It's a $6,000 option with the Adaptive Suspension and 305 wider tires. When it comes to replacing those tires and Brembo brakes I can only imagine how much the cost will be to replace those brakes?🤑
@louispulitano7087
@louispulitano7087 2 жыл бұрын
Wide body's make these cars look 10 times better!!
@Vffr1
@Vffr1 2 жыл бұрын
The RacerX I've come to know and love, is a drag racer. In an almost 11 minute video, you never even came close to talking about the weight difference between the cars. The WB is noticeable heaver and the wheels will make the WB a slug compared to the non WB in drag race I think it's 2-3th slower. Triple
@scottandrews4822
@scottandrews4822 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, not true. The top end is effected slightly [5 mph] , but the quarter mile, slalom, and 70-0 tines are much better due to increased tire footprint on the ground. I do get what you're saying about the increased rotational mass, which is somewhat higher. But, we're not talking VW Bettles here and the difference in rotational mass is way overcome by the traction difference that allows you to launch the car so much harder and with much less wheel spin. Spinnin' ain't winnin'-- unless it's a burnout contest.
@microminiskirt
@microminiskirt 2 жыл бұрын
Wide body has lower top end speed, with worse gas mileage but is faster on road course than a regular HC. Is widebody better as a daily driver on city roads and freeway? Or is scat with "DYNAMIC OPTION" with 275 tires better for all around driving. No track usage.
@jaceblack7842
@jaceblack7842 2 жыл бұрын
Great video comparison and looking at the issue from a different perspective: the narrow body requires the Dynamics Package for obtaining the preferable 270/45 tire wheel set up and larger front brakes which runs $2,395 and the adaptive suspension costs an additional $995 so we have a $3,390 total. Given this fact, the wide body runs only $2,610 extra and you get the 305 wider tires. Or, you can go with the 1320 narrow body for $3,995 and you get the preferred 275/40 wheel and tire set up with adaptive suspension (I took this route). Or, you can go the narrow body TA route for $3,995 which includes the 275/40 wheel setup and add the adaptive suspension for $995 and you also get cold air induction. And, you can add the dynamics package for reduced price for the larger front brakes. So various options exist. I did not know any of this at one time and originally purchased a narrow body SP and the car had the 245 tires. I kept the car about one year and then traded for the 1320. (I should have been watching Racer X videos and I would have known more about these features before I purchased my first challenger).
@speedyserbian
@speedyserbian 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loving my 1320!
@leathernlatexmicrominiskir3784
@leathernlatexmicrominiskir3784 2 жыл бұрын
🥱😵‍💫🥴🙀🙈Choices choices just too many choices to decide on.😁
@Chris-vq1jt
@Chris-vq1jt 2 ай бұрын
This is really great information! I have been waiting for years to purchase so I want to make the best decision the first time if possible. Thanks again for sharing!
@tigerhoods7927
@tigerhoods7927 2 жыл бұрын
To me widebodys look so sexy especially on the charger. But I think the regular narrow body’s are fine
@AStanton1966
@AStanton1966 2 жыл бұрын
I just went thru the driver in window at a bank with my new Charger Scat Pack with the narrow body. The car is big and you have to watch the clearance with the narrow body. I can't imagine the wide body.
@MsCarrie71
@MsCarrie71 2 жыл бұрын
Hey RacerX. The reason you don’t get fog lights on the widebody is because the fog light location is actually a air duct to your brakes for cooling.
@microminiskirt
@microminiskirt 2 жыл бұрын
SO THIS MEANS THE REGULAR CHALLENGER BODY DOESNT HAVE BRAKE DUCTS BECAUSE OF SMALLER BRAKES? IS THAT NECESSARY TO HAVE COOLING DUCTS ON BIGGER BRAKES BECAUSE YOU MUST GO AT HIGHER SPEEDS TO GET THAT COOLING UN LIKE CITY DRIVING. I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THE FACTORY FOGS IF THEY REALLY HELP WITH BETTER VISION.
@scottandrews4822
@scottandrews4822 2 жыл бұрын
exactly!
@scottandrews4822
@scottandrews4822 2 жыл бұрын
​@@microminiskirt I think Dodge feels that the WB cars will probably be taken to the track more, and the brake cooling ducts will make a big difference in brake cooling and, therefore, less brake fade. But you're right - in regular city driving, you will see little difference. Mainly on the track or carving canyons. Remember, the front brakes do 80% of the stopping on a car, so they can get hot 🔥 in certain circumstances.
@microminiskirt
@microminiskirt 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottandrews4822 vERY true and consider the Challenger is 4,200+ pounds so like anything else the more weight, the more wear and tear on everything especially the brakes. But if you don't drive like that and just cruise around easy like grandma/grandpa you are still hauling all the weight around. Perhaps the weight will contribute to the comfort and ride on street roads in isolating those nasty dips on these ill maintained public roads we have here.🤢🤮
@scottandrews4822
@scottandrews4822 2 жыл бұрын
@@microminiskirt I have a 2021 Charger Scat Pack now and just traded it on my new Challenger T/A 392, so I'm familiar with the weight. However, I feel that Dodge has done such a great job whrh the engines and suspension that the weight is not felt. And it's not like a Camaro or Mustang are the weight of a Miata, so its all relative. If it was lighter snd smaller, then maybe a 485 HP engine wouldn't work. Regardless, I loved my Charger and will love my Challenger too. Plus, I have a 2022 Ram Ecodiesel that is kind of the other end of the spectrum. #Moparornocar
@butleroferic1135
@butleroferic1135 2 жыл бұрын
I think the wide body options are better. My only gripe is that the car industry is really inflated right now. These dealers want a crazy amount of money for base model cars. Just saw a 2020 hellcat near me with 7k miles, no alcantara, leather or suede, no drive assist package, 275’s all the way around for $75k plus taxes. They’re out of their minds.
@AStanton1966
@AStanton1966 2 жыл бұрын
You have to consider that MOPAR is making no more V-8's after 2023. Get 'em while you can! I just picked up a new Charger Scat Pack and had to pay full sticker. A closer dealer to me had a $1,000 over sticker mark up. It's simply a sellers' market between the V-8's going away and the supply chain shortage.
@microminiskirt
@microminiskirt 2 жыл бұрын
Which challenger will have the more comfortable smoother ride on public imperfect bumpy roads? The wide body or the scat regular body with "DYNAMIC OPTION" package with 275 tires?🤔🤔
@joehancock9926
@joehancock9926 Жыл бұрын
I'm also torn between a manual or automatic. I've always been a manual guy, but at the power level is a manual a good idea. My concerns are whether the manual will break loose at higher speed shifting, and will I be sacrificing some performance with an automatic..?
@mac_scat3135
@mac_scat3135 2 жыл бұрын
The widebody looks so much better. It's the reason why I'm getting a charger
@microminiskirt
@microminiskirt 2 жыл бұрын
THE MAINTENANCE COST WILL GO UP ON SPWB TO REPLACE TIRES, BRAKE SYSTEM PARTS AND SHOCKS IF YOU HANG ONTO IT FOR THE LONG RUN.
@Chris-vq1jt
@Chris-vq1jt 2 ай бұрын
good point
@joeezzo1934
@joeezzo1934 2 жыл бұрын
Can we get a comparison between the wide body scatpack and the 1320 scatpack?
@DefinitelyNotYouThankGod
@DefinitelyNotYouThankGod 2 жыл бұрын
Great review bro 😎. It’s good to hear the difference between the two because most people didn’t really know. I would never do anything but a Widebody! They actually handle night and day better.
@scottandrews4822
@scottandrews4822 2 жыл бұрын
very true!
@michaelthebarbarian3380
@michaelthebarbarian3380 Жыл бұрын
I have to say that the road manners of my 2022 Challenger Scat WB M6 have been very impressive for such a large car. Also, according to Dodge the Scat WB suspension was re-engineered for the 392 cars to take advantage of the car's lighter front end and better weight distribution. So it is a different set up than simply bolting a Hellcat's WB kit underneath.
@mistressplettetko
@mistressplettetko 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the superthanks... Much appreciated
@thequarantinefamily5230
@thequarantinefamily5230 2 жыл бұрын
I decided to dodge literally the wide body on the Challenger and decided to upgrade the bigger brakes on the Challenger narrow body by adding the dynamics package which I preferred and I was still able to keep the overall price of the car cheaper than a wide body. I highly recommend getting the dynamics package.
@Chris-vq1jt
@Chris-vq1jt 2 ай бұрын
I want the look of the widebody but not the price, it's good to know the dynamic package is worth the money.
@vettesweetnos
@vettesweetnos 2 жыл бұрын
Built out a 22 redeye charger online exact same spec as my 21 and base price increased $4,430. Adding incentive I got vs now and that's a 7k savings ordering last year vs ordering now. Kinda crazy.
@soiceyboyz2979
@soiceyboyz2979 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know what the incentives are? Do you find out after you buy?
@vettesweetnos
@vettesweetnos 2 жыл бұрын
@@soiceyboyz2979 dodges website has it, it's either $1k off on hellcats or 0% for 72 months usually. Incentive called national consumer cash, last year it dropped from 4k to 2k. Dealer needs to put in at time of order and you receive/pay at delivery
@soiceyboyz2979
@soiceyboyz2979 2 жыл бұрын
@@vettesweetnos thanks
@raymondjeremiahchikakesta7404
@raymondjeremiahchikakesta7404 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, i think the 6k is worth it on the Scat Pack wide body. I am presently driving the narrow body 2019 Dodge charger scat pack but i am really eyeing the wide body because i will like to get the adaptive cruise control, adaptive suspension and the bremo 6 piston breaks option. In all, Dodge is really doing a great job with the way it delivers with in comes to power, style and class.
@toddsnake2137
@toddsnake2137 2 жыл бұрын
Like the Widebody Look...Not the price. Thought about going Widebody when I ordered my 2019 Scat Shaker, but Widebody became unavailable when I chose the Shaker Package??? Shaker with Widebody didn't become available until 2020. GREAT VIDEO‼💯
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I loved the 50th anniversary card because of the widebody with the shaker.. should have been available on the normal Scatpack much sooner 👍
@RexxCollects
@RexxCollects 2 жыл бұрын
Got a Reg charger Scat Pack with the dynamic package. Love it!!! Saved some money but still boosted the performance!!! Might add 295s but it's AWESOME none the less!!! Awesome video!!!
@rayrussell6064
@rayrussell6064 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely the wide body is the way to go all around looks and performance. Awesome content keep up the great work. Love what you do for the channel. As always be safe 👍
@392JeffGordon
@392JeffGordon 10 ай бұрын
idiot
@titankeith
@titankeith 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE my 2020 Widebody in Hellraisin. Beautiful car! I have to admit, even the 305's struggle at a dig, but not near as bad as the 245's.
@stephenbrady916
@stephenbrady916 2 жыл бұрын
If they were the same price, I’d prefer the widebody for better handling. I prefer the standard body’s looks. It is timeless!
@tmills7453
@tmills7453 2 жыл бұрын
I drive a 21 WB charger. I think 6k is well worth it, when he factor in the rim and tire package, the brake system upgrades, etc. If you bought a narrow body and upgrade separately it would be well over 6k. Just my thought.
@dubtube2823
@dubtube2823 2 жыл бұрын
I like the look of the narrow body with the 275 tires. Both are nice looking I just prefer the narrow
@phillipgampper1247
@phillipgampper1247 2 жыл бұрын
I think you would want to look at after market fie releams, tires and larger bimbos. To see if it is worth it.
@speedyserbian
@speedyserbian 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer medium-sized bimbos, personally... 😆
@FlatBedLife717
@FlatBedLife717 2 жыл бұрын
It depends really, if you want the advanced dampening, bigger breaks, wider wheels the cost difference is negligible at that point. So get wide body!
@panama2500
@panama2500 Жыл бұрын
Includes: 275/40ZR20 All-Season Performance Tires ABS - Brembos 6-Piston Front Caliper Brakes Flat-Bottom Steering Wheel Rhombi 2-Piece Wheel Center Cap
@RT--sz5fu
@RT--sz5fu 2 жыл бұрын
I have thoroughly enjoyed my Scat Pack Widebody. It is definitely tourqey.
@gsx-r_pete08
@gsx-r_pete08 2 жыл бұрын
The answer is simple... TOTALY WORTH IT!!
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I knew you would say that lol...
@gsx-r_pete08
@gsx-r_pete08 2 жыл бұрын
@@RacerX9 Well when you of all people go out of your way to do something for someone else it just makes it that much more awesome! Definitely a great story I still tell to this day! Hope everything is going well for you my friend. We need to get together sometime soon 😎🤜🤛😎
@RoyalViking465
@RoyalViking465 2 жыл бұрын
I always liked the Challengers since they came out again in 2008 and always thought about buying one but just never quite pulled the trigger.... that is till the widebody's came out and I fell head over heels at the look with the flares and 305 tires. I couldn't be happier with my 2020 scatpack widebody. The widebody's break necks wherever they're seen that's a fact.
@Gainzville55
@Gainzville55 2 жыл бұрын
Slow scat and more weight for a scat lol
@RoyalViking465
@RoyalViking465 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gainzville55 Sure goofy 🤪
@truckingwithj7202
@truckingwithj7202 2 жыл бұрын
Did you notice a difference in the steering between the two? It seems like my steering wheel is a little more harder to turn with the widebody vs the RT I used to have. 🤔
@scottandrews4822
@scottandrews4822 2 жыл бұрын
Check the settings on your adaptive suspension setup. The steering effort and feel is adjustable and you may have the steering on Track mode. But, in any case, larger and wider tires will be a little harder to turn, if only for the increased rotational mass. With the Dodge's excellent electric power steering system, it shouldn't be that much more difficult though unless the steering is in Track mode. I hope this helps.
@truckingwithj7202
@truckingwithj7202 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottandrews4822 steering in street mode. I didn't mean to imply that it's hard to steer, just that you can feel the difference with the wider tires
@willieshoemaker8680
@willieshoemaker8680 2 жыл бұрын
I Highly Highly recommend for the 6-speed shifter on the challenger (I have had 2) swapping it out for a Barton shifter. on my black hellcat I swapped the shifter to a Barton and the handle to a Hurst pistol grip. The Barton made an 80% better shift and the handle with the carbon fiber inserts made the whole interior look bad ass old school cool. I wish I kept that car, damn. Why the Hurst, well it was the way the old school name on both sides of the chrome handle looked...
@MYSANjuly
@MYSANjuly 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 Widebody ScatPack Challenger and a 50th Anniversary Challenger Widebody ScatPack shaker, love them both and only a Widebody for me!!
@robertwhite8959
@robertwhite8959 2 жыл бұрын
I Agee that the widebody looks better on the Charger. The Challenger widebody doesn't flare into the body like the Charger. But I still like it, but I wouldn't trade my regular body Shaker just to get a widebody.
@microminiskirt
@microminiskirt 2 жыл бұрын
You spend $6,000 extra for wide body option. Why are the fog lights not included in this package? Is it because extra cooling is needed for front 6 piston Brembo brakes for cooling?🤔🤔
@HCpov1
@HCpov1 2 жыл бұрын
Wide body charger looks real good. Not a fan of the wide body challengers. But they still look good. Also im glad to see people are calling them standard body or just hellcats. Calling these cars narrow bodys is dumb its just dumb.
@Lauria43
@Lauria43 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer WB on Charger and not so much on the Challanger. I have a 2021 1320 and the WB isnt an option due to wieght reduction. It does come stock with the 275 Nexen street drag radials.
@scottandrews4822
@scottandrews4822 2 жыл бұрын
How do you like the 1320? I bet it launches hard.
@Lauria43
@Lauria43 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottandrews4822 love it, and yes it has a great launch!
@alfredoserralles5396
@alfredoserralles5396 Жыл бұрын
That’s all you need on a 1320 to beat all the lineup!🔥
@cobeyEMT23
@cobeyEMT23 2 жыл бұрын
I also believe you get the beefy hellcat redeye axles
@SkraLord
@SkraLord 2 жыл бұрын
You get 6 piston brembos with the dynamics package with the regular body
@scottandrews4822
@scottandrews4822 2 жыл бұрын
no sir. you get 4 piston Brembos. The 6 piston front Brembo with 4 piston rear Brembo brakes are only available with the Scat Pack package or std on the Hellcat now.
@SkraLord
@SkraLord 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottandrews4822 Dynamics Package $2,395 275/40ZR20 All-Season Performance Tires ABS - Brembo® 6-Piston Front Caliper Brakes Flat-Bottom Steering Wheel Rhombi 2-Piece Wheel Center Cap from dodge you goof
@scottandrews4822
@scottandrews4822 2 жыл бұрын
@@SkraLord ok you goof lol. Got it. They just started the 6 piston front brakes this year with the Dynamics Pk. Before, it was 4 piston.
@SkraLord
@SkraLord 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottandrews4822 also not true I had dynamics package ordered on me 20 and 21 vehicles
@21scatpack46
@21scatpack46 2 жыл бұрын
While I REALLY like the look of the wide body, I just COULD NOT justify another $6k so I got a ‘21 narrow in Frostbite. Full transparency, I don’t beat the hell out of my car so I don’t care if the tires give up at 100+ miles an hours because I never drive my car that way and the 245s do what I herd them to do.
@rivirme
@rivirme 2 жыл бұрын
Narrow in Frostbite; best choice....love it.
@B58bandito
@B58bandito 2 жыл бұрын
me too man! i just put 275s on the back of the narrowbody and it feels very nice! only cost $500 instead of $6000 lol
@thehonestrealtor9070
@thehonestrealtor9070 2 жыл бұрын
Agree, I was interested in wide body but not for the cost
@2808Heavy
@2808Heavy 2 жыл бұрын
@That V8 Life Not enough to justify an additional 6 stacks that’s for sure.
@2808Heavy
@2808Heavy 2 жыл бұрын
@That V8 Life I don’t drive my car like ass clown so I don’t need bigger, better, brakes or wider tires. You guys get a 400+ HP sedan and all of a sudden you think you’re auditioning for NASCAR. Just stop, your making an ass of yourselves.
@frankwolfrum6301
@frankwolfrum6301 2 жыл бұрын
A wide body Scat Pack also has a performance shifting page on the automatic transmissions setting the shift points on the transmission I believe it is based on the rpm
@TheMazdamn
@TheMazdamn 2 жыл бұрын
I have a '19 Charger Scat with Dynamics package, I swapped the HC1 wheels my car came with for HC2 reps and have 275s up front and 315s in the rear. The main reason I dont like the WB is loss of driving lights. I like the look. I know its minimal light output, AND that there are kits and mods for them. Other than that, I dont mind the look of the WB charger. The challenger, I dont like the side marker running thru the flare. There are WB kits that make the ass about 8" wider, I DO like that, simply because its more unique.
@microminiskirt
@microminiskirt 2 жыл бұрын
JUST PUT AFTERMARKET FOGS ON WHICH ARE BRIGHTER THAN FACTORY TO SEE BETTER. YOU COULD PUT THE MOPAR FOGS IN FOR SAKE OF EASIER INSTALL BUT WONT BE AS BRIGHT.
@scottandrews4822
@scottandrews4822 2 жыл бұрын
​@@microminiskirt Why are you yelling with all caps? 😆
@solesauce06
@solesauce06 2 жыл бұрын
Had to circle back on this video. Appreciate this!
@ambrosevisini4292
@ambrosevisini4292 2 жыл бұрын
Great show thanks for the information.
@randyravage7873
@randyravage7873 2 жыл бұрын
I've owned both and the widebody is better taking off,turning,and stopping.
@dw8015
@dw8015 2 жыл бұрын
Like them both but in my opinion the WB will be worth more in the long run. Less made.
@Redeyereaper8
@Redeyereaper8 2 жыл бұрын
About time back with the mopar family....keep up the great videos
@scatpack8510
@scatpack8510 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison video RacerX! Ever since I saw the Demon in the widebody with that airgrabber hood I loved the look. I was glad Dodge made it available for an add on package on the scat pack. It’s really cool we can choose to customize these cars from factory like this. Back when I purchased my scat I was lucky enough to apply dodge power dollars right before the program ended. I’ve owned a narrow body already and I definitely prefer the widebody.
@ardelld8465
@ardelld8465 2 жыл бұрын
Love this video. It is exactly what I wanted to see. I feel the same about the widebody. Price should not be as high on the hellcats. I have a question about tires. Because I live in cold and snow climate dodge puts all season tires on the cars. I did order the summer tires, but for some reason my hellcat will have all season tires. My question is will the all season tires be a problem?
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 2 жыл бұрын
Yes all seasons are absolutely the best for normal driving but the absolute worst for putting any sort of power down.. give and take I suppose
@ardelld8465
@ardelld8465 2 жыл бұрын
@@RacerX9 Thank you! I will be drag racing it. I will not drive it in the winter. The reasons are snow, gravel, and it is not smart here in Montana. I did contact my salesman and he told me they did put that in when the order got placed and came back just recently with all seasons. I appreciate your answer. You are the best!
@Lauria43
@Lauria43 2 жыл бұрын
I have all season now until March. Rain ans snow coating they're great. Like RacerX said, they're shit when you give it power.
@ardelld8465
@ardelld8465 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lauria43 Thank you. I will have to buy some tires.
@hellraiserx9490
@hellraiserx9490 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 2020 dodge challenger 50th anniversary Widebody 392 shaker scat pack in Hellraisen amen in my opinion it is well worth it for the bigger tires and the traction you get. I had a Hellcat it was not a wide body and I couldn’t put any power to the ground all the tires dude was spin.
@rockhopper01
@rockhopper01 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but new wheels and tires won’t cost you $6k.
@hellraiserx9490
@hellraiserx9490 2 жыл бұрын
@@rockhopper01 No they won’t but they will stick out too far and cause damage to the body with all the rocks and stones that he kicks up.
@truckingwithj7202
@truckingwithj7202 2 жыл бұрын
But at least with the scat pack, you get a lot more than just the wheels. It's worth the extra 6k
@hellraiserx9490
@hellraiserx9490 2 жыл бұрын
@@truckingwithj7202 In the 50th anniversary edition scat pack gets wheels that you can only get on that particular model you can’t get them on any other model.
@truckingwithj7202
@truckingwithj7202 2 жыл бұрын
@@hellraiserx9490 yep 👍. But I was referring to the dynamic suspension and the 6 piston brakes that the widebody option adds. There is no way you can add all of that for 6k aftermarket.
@Mechaniclemaniac
@Mechaniclemaniac Жыл бұрын
Dear Mr. X, You left out an important aspect of the Wide Body non redeye Hellcat option. It comes with the bigger Demon\Redeye 41 spline axles and driveshaft as well as the electric power steering. A litttle more justification regarding the up charge. Scat Widebodies have the standard axles and drive shaft.
@darrylsmijan9123
@darrylsmijan9123 2 жыл бұрын
My 2015 srt392 has dynamic suspension I put on 305’s in the rear and saved the rest of my money
@SovereignKnight74
@SovereignKnight74 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, Racer X! The F8 Green wide body car has a 1970s grill, and the Maroon non-wide body has the 1971 grill. For me, both are great! I'd take either! However, I personally would lean to the wide body more so. Better brakes, bigger tires… it all translates to something a bit more suitable for a 6.4.
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I prefer the WB look 👍
@SovereignKnight74
@SovereignKnight74 2 жыл бұрын
@@RacerX9 I do too! Just I can't drive a stick lol.
@randypleva2397
@randypleva2397 2 жыл бұрын
Guess I’m old school I like the standard body. Never liked the wide body bought a scat pack then a HellCat both standard body.
@williamreynolds3487
@williamreynolds3487 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at this solely from an aesthetic perspective, the narrowbody looks better on the Challenger and the widebody looks better on the Charger imo. But I understand why you’d get a widebody for both models, performance-wise.
@johnnywishbone1349
@johnnywishbone1349 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know if I like wide body. Sleek look of regular looks good. I suppose if getting wider tires for grip should definitely get wide body.
@hallisonrodrigues4259
@hallisonrodrigues4259 Жыл бұрын
i love the widebody and really dont wanna get one without it. but the negative isnt just the 6k difference, its the fact that theyre rarer, so the price stays up on the used ones on top of being hard to find. i might look into how much it would be to buy the fender flares and wheels on their own and have a body shop install it. maybe then it makes sense cuz right now i can barely widebodies available for reasonable prices
@joehancock9926
@joehancock9926 Жыл бұрын
Racer X, I'm interested in the Challenger Hellcat. I have no preference, really, between the looks of the widebody and the regular width Challenger. However, I am interested in whether the widebody would keep the car more linier when the tires cut loose..? Especially at higher speeds. Would that be the case? I do intend to install at least a drag radial..
@johnnykilroy9399
@johnnykilroy9399 2 жыл бұрын
My only complaint on the widebodies is the wheel gap damn they sit then up high as hell
@scottandrews4822
@scottandrews4822 2 жыл бұрын
Order the T/A package then with the Scat Pack. It's a half inch lower.
@alanzolotoff6014
@alanzolotoff6014 2 жыл бұрын
P/S - I ended up putting 12” wide wheels on the rear with 325 width on the tires. And she grabs hella hood now 👍👍👍
@richardshifflett7851
@richardshifflett7851 2 жыл бұрын
Allan,is that 12inch wheel& 325 Tire package on a narrow body? can you post pictures
@JesusHernandez-lo6fx
@JesusHernandez-lo6fx 5 ай бұрын
Ok so my reg scat was 74k but I wanna trade it in to get a wide body should I? The only reasons it was that high was because I added a paint protection plan while the wide body is still cheaper then that
@michaeldunn5997
@michaeldunn5997 2 жыл бұрын
Devil Rims...best looking modern wheel of any auto maker.
@Unknown-oz7xs
@Unknown-oz7xs 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been looking for a video like this! Thank you!
@keithwheeler5467
@keithwheeler5467 2 жыл бұрын
Wide body up close looks like they just hung an aftermarket mod their not molded into the fenders , looks cheap , I prefer the other look
@truckingwithj7202
@truckingwithj7202 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, I love my widebody, but I wish it had a more finished look to it.
@bashpaw
@bashpaw 2 жыл бұрын
Love the channel! Curious, my 2021 widebody scat has more features in the SRT mode with the addition of transmission. I did not see that on this one. Apologies if I missed something.
@jondickson75
@jondickson75 2 жыл бұрын
Great channel. Thank you for what you do
@PatCurrie
@PatCurrie 10 ай бұрын
I had the fender flares on my 2008 Mustang. Wasn't wowed then so my 2017 SRT392 is perfect. I'd rather put the dough towards leather, Nav & audio.
@8speedhellcat889
@8speedhellcat889 2 жыл бұрын
Idk man 6k for plastic fender flares 🤷‍♂️ if the car came molded with a wide body and not just stuck on I would understand it. I got a white knuckle 2021 scat pack shaker with brass monkey wheels and 6 piston red calipers. Side note- You said you can’t get the 6 pistons unless it’s a widebody but that’s not right. I have them on my 2021 narrow body
@Newwhips4ya
@Newwhips4ya 2 жыл бұрын
Hi X I think its coming down to which cars will be the collection worth out of all the models that's where I'd put my money example hellcat motor straight body vs hellcat wide body cuz dodge is offing buy back program what's ur take on that ??
@shocktrp66
@shocktrp66 2 жыл бұрын
1320 is a better bang for the buck than a widebody. The only disappointing thing with the 1320 is that it doesn't come with 18" wheels like the Demon & Super stock.
@Serenessl1994
@Serenessl1994 2 жыл бұрын
And it only come in auto
@Chris-vq1jt
@Chris-vq1jt 2 ай бұрын
why is that?
@panama2500
@panama2500 Жыл бұрын
The narrow body doesnt appear to have dynamics package, no 6 piston brembos and flat steering wheel, also wheels on dynamics package cars are much different...
@paulvwhalen
@paulvwhalen 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again as always for the great video. I agree after all my research , if you buy a scat you need bigger tires and I prefer to get the better suspension. By the time you add your performance options for the narrow body you are approaching the price of the narrow body , and the wide body comes already with 305's and rims. Winner winner chicken dinner!!!
@MR.TOYBOX
@MR.TOYBOX Жыл бұрын
The 1320 is were it’s at!
@jerryjeff4089
@jerryjeff4089 Жыл бұрын
So aside from the flared fenders is there an actual difference of the physical body or the actual width of the cars?
@rockhopper01
@rockhopper01 2 жыл бұрын
Prefer regular Challenger body. Wide looks cool on Charger though.
@Ramblequist
@Ramblequist 2 жыл бұрын
at 3:27 that is for a M6 ? I ordered narrow body, but with dynamics and adaptive suspension, so will I get Suspension choices too?
@LamontBoucherville
@LamontBoucherville 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for dodge to rejoin Nascar
@justpray365
@justpray365 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. They should never have left. They won the championship and walked away.
@ardelld8465
@ardelld8465 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely! I am exited to see what happens.
@dinkone7943
@dinkone7943 2 жыл бұрын
I have had both and I love the wide body try to drive it every Day
@XOBOYSRT
@XOBOYSRT 2 жыл бұрын
Just ordered my widebody scat on Wed in smoke show with red guts 😀😀
@bigfly_214
@bigfly_214 2 жыл бұрын
The problem I have with the widebody look is that it looks glued/bolt on instead of a smooth fabricated look
@Gene88.
@Gene88. 2 жыл бұрын
Same here bruh but if I say that out loud I’m hating or can’t afford smh that’s why I didn’t trade my 19 Scatpack not worth it.
@DrippyMazda6
@DrippyMazda6 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, powerful, gas guzzling police magnets! Once you get this car you are instantly a target by feds and thieves. Dangerous to own but super fun to drive!
@jerryjeff4089
@jerryjeff4089 Жыл бұрын
Take it easy dude, obviously you have never owned a fast car before.
@cracker135
@cracker135 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and comparison.. I’m a slim body guy, just what I like. Thank you again!
8 ай бұрын
Is there any clear way to spot fake/aftermarket Widebody from the original one by just looking at the car? Thank you!
@ronl8495
@ronl8495 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on the tires you run, I have a 2018 scat with the Bilstien High-Performance Suspension and a set of Michelin Pilot Sport A\S 4s in 275/40. Around corners I get no understeer or oversteer at any speed! From a roll I get virtually no tire spin, the only way I can break them loose is from a dead stop with my 6-Speed Manual. Great vid once again X!
@djwilliams9842
@djwilliams9842 2 жыл бұрын
What about the shaker Challenger I haven't seen yet for 2022?
@oawefajweee
@oawefajweee 2 жыл бұрын
IIRC the hellcat NB has the same antiroll bars as the WB, but the WB has the 'widebody competition suspension'.
@kenclarkson3493
@kenclarkson3493 2 жыл бұрын
The hellcat suspension is the same whether narrow body or widebody. The widebody Scatpack has a different setup from the hellcat including hollow sway bars and the stiffest spring rate in the line-up.
@oawefajweee
@oawefajweee 2 жыл бұрын
Widebody competition suspension is its own different line item on the window stickers of hellcat challengers
@frankmmiii
@frankmmiii Жыл бұрын
The six-piston Brembos can stop a loaded dump truck. I bought my 2021 Challenger Widebody Scat Pack T/A edition in the Gold Rush with only 3000 miles and I've only put 100 miles on it, between driving it home and running around town. Those 6-piston calipers stop the car like it hit a wall.
@robertsegrave1398
@robertsegrave1398 2 жыл бұрын
I have some questions about the widebody vs the regular challenger. I may have found something that proves they’re bodies are not the same with just a kit
@tomyunt1839
@tomyunt1839 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I like the straight body better than the wide body they look cleaner and the cost isn’t worth it 👍
@jerrygd4
@jerrygd4 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@brody8857
@brody8857 2 жыл бұрын
i personally love the widebody on the challenger but normal on charger
@bobreynolds744
@bobreynolds744 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Love the straight body with a shaker hood.
@jmavlogs0729
@jmavlogs0729 Жыл бұрын
Looking to get a used challenger soon. Perhaps a widebody. Should i get minimum 2016 and up models only? I read somewhere 2015 models and below have the most problems. Any tips/advice are highly appreciated 😊
@Yocannon
@Yocannon 2 жыл бұрын
I have a narrow body Hellcat charger, bought the wide body kit for $1800
@mr.noway77
@mr.noway77 Жыл бұрын
if you get option of widebody scat pack vs NARROW body HELLCAT... which one would you pick ?
@alfredoserralles5396
@alfredoserralles5396 Жыл бұрын
If you want to save some money go narrow body, install Eiback pro lowering springs,bigger sway bars, strut tower braces,subframe connectors and Michelin pilot 4s 285 front 305 back and you are ready to Beat the widebody and still save around $2,000 for new set of tires plus your own personal satisfaction that is a custom build 😝😎🦶💪🤩
@jamesfrint4979
@jamesfrint4979 2 жыл бұрын
Great cars and a good looking t-shirt too.
@alanzolotoff6014
@alanzolotoff6014 2 жыл бұрын
I ended up buying the standard hellcat because I couldn’t see paying $6K for wider wheels & tires and fenders. If it was $2K more I would have ordered the wide body, but hell no it’s not worth it on the hellcat ! 👍👍👍
@21scatpack46
@21scatpack46 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. $2k and I would have been sold, $6k and I was OUT! Got a ‘21 Narrow Scat in Frostbite and I’m happy!
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