Are YOU A Photo Gear Snob?

[@sophietucker1255]

There are too many people that are totally fixated on the spec sheet and the name on the gear. I agree totally with you about getting the gear that works for you at the price point you are happy with. Yes, you can buy cheap but if it breaks or lets you down then it is no bargain. I have several very top end cameras and lenses but they are all second hand and a 60 year old Hasselblad is still to this day a fantastic piece of gear

[@borderlands6606]

My attitude to cameras is the same as my take on cars. Use them hard for 10 years and any residual value above scrap is a bonus. Bizarrely, my ancient X-Pro 1 is worth more than I gave for it, as is my Lumix GX80. If you must trade, wait at least two iterations and never impulse buy. And always make prints because improvements are mostly indiscernible on paper.

[@RichardCookphotography]

Fab video Brian. You make some very good points, I think investing time in skills is always preferable to just buying the latest and greatest. In my case I need pretty nice gear to get the shots I need but it wasn't always like that...and for most other genres of photography that I don't concentrate on, I'm happy using cheap stuff as it's not my main focus. Well done mate!

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

Thank you

[@paulnichols393]

“You’re not a professional photographer” is such a massively patronising thing to say! There are plenty of ‘amateurs’ out there who absolutely run rings around some ‘professionals’, and being one or the other has nothing directly to do with how good you are. I’m a serious ‘amateur’ photographer and a professional sound engineer and musician, gear snobs in all these areas annoy the hell out of me!

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

Oh, don’t start me on me music side, I could write volumes about that and by sound of it you could too. Best wishes Brian

[@AprilClayton]

I was obsessed with trying every new Sony and Panasonic camera I saw reviewed on KZbin. I would sell one and buy another, losing money in the process. It was fun, but in the end, I realized that my most treasured images were captured with the cheapest first camera I bought, LUMIX G95. They were my favorite photos because I was enjoying learning photography and having fun. The obsession with ga was spoiling everything. No I have one camera and am trying to enjoy the art of photography like I did at first.

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

We’ve all done it.

[@andirutherford2615]

Thats what photography is about, enjoyment. Ive been told by a well known wildlife photographer, I should sell on line but …… it becomes a job then

[@timothykieper]

I buy a camera a month. Buy only locally and hunt for bargains. Generally know that I will use the camera and can sell to at least get my money back or small profit.

[@lorenschwiderski]

The proof is in the pudding. People cook for a living, and people cook for themselves and family, but it makes little difference in the tools used and ingredients bought as long as the taste is good. You don't, in fact, always get what you paid for. When I was young I would purchase a Beatles album without a first listen knowing that the work for be top-notch. Not once did I care what instrument company made their tools, but their music never let me down. Other, "professional" bands were very dicey at best for quality, yet had the same quality of tools at hand. It is all in the work and talent which produced the excellence. The Beatles + Martin = good pudding. Always keep working to your best level, then try to best it the next day. Brian, it is good that you are out on the street again, and I do hope you meet the finest and kindest while on your walks. Most people are great! Take care, Loren

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

@@lorenschwiderski thank you that’s kind and you are right, most people are great. On the music front, I have an Eric Clapton signature Fender Stratocaster I play at gigs professionally, I’m an “ok” guitarist but I’m certainly no Clapton even though the guitar is identical (and brilliant). Having said that I have the unique ability of being able to pick up an awesome guitar and a cheap one…..and play them equally badly. Lol

[@lorenschwiderski]

@@ThatMicro43Guy In the 1960's the saying was, if ya can't play good -- play loud! 😛

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

@@lorenschwiderski damn! You’ve seen my act lol

[@jeffreybeigie5244]

Another great video. I have found that the second best lens can save you a fortune, and at my skill level is indistinguishable from the best lens. Between my style and skill levels, I will choose the good enough lens. At least until such time as I can't the shot I want. Most of us still need to work on their composition way more than the small amount of difference that superior micro-contrast will make a difference in our photography. One other thing that the cheaper lenses let you do, is experiment with lens styles without breaking the bank. By this I mean, if you want to try that short focal length fast prime, but not sure if you would really use it, buy the cheap chinese lens and give it a whirl. If it turns out to be your thing, you can sell it, and buy a really good one - or you just might find that for the few times you need one, it is all you need.

[@richardwalker4518]

I still keep a couple of M4/3 pro lenses and are very clear on the reasons I want them. 20mm f4 Pro is the secret sauce that turns your M4/3 camera into a full frame. 40-150 F4 pro is the performance powerhouse that fits into one pocket of a messenger bag and delivers perfect images all through its range. It has its distinct and non negotiable use cases. Where I'm really saving the cash is on the super telephoto. I learned that the right vintage prime optics can give results that match the modern big dollar tele-zooms, so long as you are prepared to work on your manual focusing technique. Take a Canon 300 f5.6 FD lens for £80, wonderful optic with the caveat that it doesn't handle backlight very well, you'll get a lot of purple fringing, but if the sun is behind you, fabulous three dimensional images result. Even better, the Olympus Zuiko 200mm f5 for £48 (or the F4, both are excellent). Tiny lens, super sharp, doesn't freak out in the backlight like the Canon does and works with the TC14 converter;-). Probably the best so far, not super tele, but awesome, 1956 Leitz Elmar 9cm F4 (15 blade circular diaphragm). Truly wonderful optic, ok it cost a couple of hundred squids, but its a Leica after all and the results are amazing. Note these lenses work on all formats, all cover the full frame, so whatever camera body you buy, these lenses will adapt to it and work great.

[@gregfeeler6910]

Great video, Brian! I am a value seeker - bang for the buck. The appropriate tool for the job should be your first rule, which will sometimes justify the expensive thing, and sometimes allow the use of something less expensive. However, to make such decisions one must understand their needs and the real differences between alternative products. Those who think they must have the most expensive will (usually) get good stuff but will spend much more than they needed. Those who buy only bargains thinking the cheap stuff is "just as good" will often waste their money and be disappointed. You have to understand your needs first, and then educate yourself enough to know about a thing (how it's built and how it works and what different features mean) to distinguish between cheap, value, and quality. The way you described this LED light demonstrates my point: you know what you need (and don't need), you know how these things work and what features you require and what isn't necessary.

[@daviddaw999]

I do like using gear that is good quality, but being retired I cannot justify buying new gear. The overwhelming bulk of my photographic purchases, including bags, are second-hand. When I do feel the need to upgrade, I can usually sell the old gear for a price close to what I paid for it. I am definitely not a gear snob, but using the best is satisfying. Having said that, I have just bought a 20mm Viltrox lens (used, of course) as I know that it will be used for architectural shots where a lot of processing will be involved. That means that the cost of a fast Sony equivalent is totally unjustified.

[@raybridges1927]

I have purchased lots of used gear. You get great gear at much more affordable prices. I have lots of micro 4/3rds kit, which includes a GX7 purchased in a charity shop. It is fun searching out a bargain.

[@davidpickard9393]

As you get older you realise that there is no point trying to beat the Jones.I have just bought 2 EOS 7Ds and 2 telephoto lenses for less than £500.

[@timothylatour4977]

There are 1,000 different ways to enjoy photography. I am always amazed at how many people think that everyone is seeking the same thing. As someone wiser than I once said, the difference between a professional and amateur is not talent or ability but motivation. After all, the word "amateur" comes from the Latin "amare" which means to love.

[@montycraig5659]

I really appreciate your channel Brian. I may not always agree with what you say, but what you say holds value! I too have shot high quality gear all my life, and while I have toyed with the idea of m43 format, I did decide to go to full frame instead. I did this only because it fits my needs better, not because it is better that a smaller sensor. I have always shot large format, and medium format cameras, and when I went to Fuji's crop sensor, it just left me wanting, so... that is what determined my decision to shoot a Nikon ZF. Not that it is better than say, an Olympus OM1 mkII, or a Lumix, just that it fits me better. I still have my eye on a Lumix G series camera somewhere down the road, but I am more interested in buying good glass, In fact, I have opted for the Nikon because I can still use AI-S lenses, Takumars that I own, and the amazing Voightlander lenses. I guess if I am a snob, it would be for good glass. Sigh....

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

@@montycraig5659 thanks Monty. No, that’s not I class as snobbery, that considered buying. I have no issues with people buying the best or using the best. FF? Great, Nikon? Superb, Fuji? Very tempting. I’ll never have “a go” at anyone for choosing them over other gear and formats, if it works for you and your needs then it is the right thing to have. The snobbery I’m talking about is this guy talking down his nose at others who either cannot or do not want to buy the top of his gear list, the type of guy who will deride someone because they don’t choose exactly why what he deems acceptable, usually he’s the type to be on an ego trip. So no, from what you wrote you’re not a snob at all. Carry on just as you are as long as YOU are happy.

[@danncorbit3623]

People have different needs, different budgets, different goals. "The equipment doesn't matter" is mostly true. The idea that you will buy a new camera or a new lens and become a better photographer is mostly false. Inexpensive gear and good technique can produce impressive results. Good lighting and good technique are more important than most people think. I like full frame cameras but I don't think I need medium format for the things I like to do. Sometimes I use film cameras because, well, I want to. I find that people who make videos about gear, with a slant that the gear will make me better at photography, are not telling me anything useful. I prefer DSLR cameras to mirrorless. I like the "infinite dots" viewfinder and battery life. I don't need any of the mirrorless improvements. That does not mean that mirrorless cameras are better or worse. They just don't offer anything that I need.

[@vin424242]

Om1 and 3 ppro zooms bought for my retirement present, it is not however my favourite camera, that goes to my E3 with a pro zoom picked up for 120 quid, its a joy to use alongside my OM1n film camera and a box Brownie

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

@@vin424242 I had a couple of pre WW1 and a couple of 1920s box brownies when I was younger. I got so much pleasure loading up 120 film and taking amazing memories with them. Just a little lever on the side for the shutter and a knob to advance the film. Brilliant! Then back home, set the bathroom up with my wooden bench on the bath, blackout blinds up, a developing tank and my loading bag. A little while later I was drying a roll of negatives. Get the enlarger and trays in (trying not to electrocute myself by having the enlarger in with the water. The smell of the chemicals is still in my mind today and a little while later I’m drying the prints of what I shot earlier. Now THAT was me enjoying my photography

[@karlrichards]

I fall into the same category as yourself. I don't need the best, I value portability as I travel with my equipment. If you need the gear and can afford it, good for you. But I'm a individual, most of my photography friends like that.

[@Memory_Gatherers]

I bought the GH6 after the streaking and AF moans. It’s absolutely fantastic. 🤷‍♂️

[@joecarey7123]

I'm a mix and match. I have the 12-40 & 40-150 f2.8, but the rest are a mishmash of kit and vintage. Depends what i need from it and one of my favourite lenses is a Yongnuo 42.5 prime.

[@malcolmwright6948]

I just watched a M4/3 video by a Medium Format photographer. He was very impressed with the 150-450mm F4.5 lens mostly due to the initial impression of the price. If the camera body OM1 mk2 has cost 4 times more he might have been impressed enough to take some time finding out how to use it. They're not gear snobs, they're just desperately trying to justify having spent 4 times more than needed.

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

@@malcolmwright6948 you may well be right

[@FART-REPELLENT]

I am a photography gear snob. For a start I have an aversion for plastic bodied cameras, primarily because they are not durable, but I also don’t like the way they feel in my hands; therefore I have a bias for semi-pro cameras, I would rather use a Nikon F3 a manual-focus film camera from 1980, than a entry-level Mirrorless from 2024. Lastly for me the design of technology I use is of great importance to me, which is why I would never buy a Sony Mirrorless camera because the designs of their Mirrorless cameras are ATROCIOUS, as they are very linear with hard edges; which is a stark contrast compared with the beautiful curves of semi-pro and pro DSLRs by Nikon and Cannon.

[@stevenbamford5245]

I work as a photographer, and if it's not cost effective then you don't get it. Photography companies don't aim their marketing campaigns at us, it's aimed at the disposable income amateur market. I can't tell you how many times I've come across photographers that shoot for a hobby that have better gear than me.

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

@@stevenbamford5245 thanks Steven, yes, that was my reasoning for buying the best when I was shooting for a living. Mine was all studio portrait based (high volume schools etc) and in theory I could have shot it on a 1300d image quality wise. But it could not have taken the workload, the shutter count would be through the roof, didn’t have the custom modes to save settings and wouldn’t last if dropped or banged. So I shot with 1Ds3 and 5d (2,3 & 4) plus L glass as it lasted and paid for itself over and over. In fact for most of my schools work I didn’t even use L lenses as I shot a 85mm f1.8 prime as I rarely shot more open than f5.6 and it was lighter to work with all day. I don’t even have any issue with people of any level having great kit, good on them, as long as they don’t deride some one else for having lesser kit.

[@stevenbamford5245]

@@ThatMicro43Guy Totally agree, these days for me it's about diversity, I shoot lifestyle, property and product as well as live concert events. I use 2 cameras a Lumix S1 and S1r with Sigma and Lumix lenses, they're now getting on for 5 years old and have been used and flung around quite a bit. They are built like tanks and still perform great. I also love MFT and have a used OM-1 and a couple of primes that I don't use for jobs, just for me. I don't see me getting anything else until the Lumix cameras give up.

[@Lepewhi]

I am not a pro, so don't need the newest or the greatest. I don't print, most of my photos are for me and friends. And, if I were into gear, I'd stop being interested in photography. It'd become a job. I have a job. I want enjoyment.

[@timothykieper]

Interesting timing for me. I just bought a Lumix G1 with 12-32 lens for less than $80. I just wanted something for EDC and street photos. Not many bells and whistles, and not even shoot video. But, sometimes fun to get back to basics.

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

@@timothykieper I bought one a year or two ago and featured it a few times on the channel (after I scraped all the sticky goo off it lol) it cost me £25 and I really don’t care if it breaks at that price, not that I want it to. It’s brilliant, just as you say, no whistles & bells nor video buts it’s fun. The 12Mp isn’t even a limitation and with denoise software I can even shoot in low light. Enjoy yours, it’s brilliant! And you probably know how much I love that lens too. 😀😀😀😀

[@martingreenberg870]

I am not a gear snob. I am an amateur and do street photography. I’m retired and can afford to purchase any gear I want. Many of my photography heros used Leica gear. I’ve tried Leica gear and don’t appreciate their offerings. I wish by paying more money for my gear my images would improve. Sadly that isn’t the case. The first thing is to know how to use the gear I have. Next I need to use the right tool for the right job. That doesn’t mean purchasing the most expensive gear. I value small and lightweight gear. As a result I use crop sensor cameras. I don’t need the benefits that a full frame sensor provides. I don’t buy the fastest lenses because I shoot in the daylight and don’t need shallow bokeh. I don’t use a flash gun because I’m a natural light shooter. I use the right tool for the right job. I will not be shamed by the gear I choose to use. I tend not to purchase new gear. What I have is more than sufficient for my needs. I can wait for the new gear to depreciate, like a car, over time. I’ve learned the power of the diminishing marginal return concept. It is like the bell curve. Buy the cheapest gear and you get the minimum features. Spend more money and the performance increases. At some point the more you spend the less improvements you get. I’m not paying top dollar for incremental improvements that don’t make a difference to my output. Is there a difference between five stops of IBIS vs seven stops? For me, no. Good enough is good enough. I’d rather purchase a photography book or attend a workshop than buy new gear. I wish buying the most expensive gear would improve the quality of my images. If that was the case I’d own Leica or professional quality gear. Last month I purchased two ten year cameras for a good price. I smiled when I purchased them. They took good quality pictures then and continue to produce good quality images. There are brands I like. They may not be ‘the best’. They are certainly more than adequate for my needs. I appreciate the gear I own. There is a reason I don’t own the top of the line gear. Either I don’t need it or want it. That is my bottom line. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

@@martingreenberg870 thanks Marty. Best wishes

[@AllenWelch-ml6mi]

I'm retired, and i have a 2011 lumix gf3 with a couple of lenses it's a little mirco 4/3 camera, bought used works good, and didn't cost a small fortune . I use it for a fun camera to just see what you can do with it and capture moments in time. Pro gear is fine if you make a living at it. But not really for the novice. Photographer. If i spent thousands in gear, i would be too scared to take it on a kayak, raft, on vacation, or just walking the city streets. Used gear is a great way to start photography and get practice to see if you want to get into this expensive hobby.

[@northof-62]

A snob is one who buys expensive stuff just for showing off. If you're a pro or an eager amateur, I say; buy the best you can afford that works for you. A renowned pro here in my country used Canon's 40D for years. Put his hard earned cash into lenses.

[@GenX_in_the_wild]

Thats what 99% of street photographers are doing.. You think they would make a single picture if they could not share it online to the world? It is ALL about showing of..

[@peterbrook3010]

I had invested heavily in the Canon RF system. However, I travel a lot (by air) and the problem of size/weight was an issue. Even once in a particular base for a while, getting the body and holy trinity F2.8 lenses in a back pack, and carting them around was a pain. So I sold up and moved to micro 4/3. I must admit, I am lucky enough to be able to go for the 1.2 primes and 2.8 zooms if that is my preference. I might sometimes be envious of the 1/8 primes and variable aperture zooms for size and weight, but the F1.2 primes and 2/8 zooms are really no problem to include in my kit, especially in comparison to the RF system I was using. Where I really feel I benefit though is in the lenses that the full frame equivalent were either not availlable, or were prohibitively expensive, not to mention heavy. The macros, the telephotos, the fisheyes. With micro 4/3 I feel able to explore these niche lenses, utilise the amazing in camera software features and get unique images. So maybe I am lucky enough to be a snob within the micro 4/3 system, but what I really appreciate is the opportunity to explore genres that I might not have been able to, with full frame. It is a shame perhaps that this means the focus from OM Systems is not on the average shooter, but rather the niche photographer, but I think they still have products that are amazing for the mainstream photographer when you remove the full frame snobbery!!

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

@@peterbrook3010 that’s not being a snob to me, that’s enjoying what you have, what you can afford and being happy. The snobs are the ones who have that but decide to deride others who cannot obtain (or decide not to obtain) those better items. I’m taking it you don’t do that to others? So to me you’re not a snob. Enjoy what you have and enjoy using it.😀

[@trishf29]

I like buying what I think is practical. I feel I have gone overboard a bit, but do think, before heading out, of what lenses I will take with me that day. These days it seems to be smaller lenses, with close focus and fast aperture. The big fellas seem to stay at home as too heavy. I really should get rid of the rest😂

[@terrynoon8467]

Horses for courses Has to be the only sensible approach. I don’t object to people who want or need to spend a lot on gear but I do defend the right to chose your own level of need and commitment. There is a lot to be said for buying second hand where someone else has spent their money to test the equipment in question. It sounds like your correspondent would be an ideal candidate for that role. Perhaps we should encourage more people like him to test out and reduce gear to reasonable prices for the rest of us to buy second hand.

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

@@terrynoon8467 you know I do believe you are right. Let his ego make it easy on our pockets

[@ddsdss256]

I wouldn't necessarily say that I'm a gear snob, but I have been willing (and fortunately able) to spend a lot more for probably only slightly better gear. For example, Lumix-branded lenses are excellent (especially the G-X line), but I've gone for the "equivalent" Leica lenses, in part because they're often a bit faster (if only by one stop), but they're also supposedly a bit better optically. Probably not so much that prints would be noticeably different, but like you, I perceive the build quality/reliability to be better (although I've luckily never had a major issue with any of my photo gear). Also, you never know when one extra stop or a bit more sharpness might actually make a difference. This is the same rational I used to get a G9M2, although my six-year-old G9M1 is still a great, reliable camera (and feels better in hand than any camera I've ever used). It just gives me a bit more capability/confidence, and in many cases, as you mention, going for better-quality gear is actually cheaper, as it lasts longer (and works better). I apply the same logic to many consumer products (pay 2-3X as much, but get 4-5X better utility). If you want the best of both worlds, buy used--both KEH and MPB have 180-day warranties.

[@dongee1664]

There's two ways of recocnizing a true photographer. 1 making beautiful, sparkling, interesting, running water look like horrible cotton wool. And 2. refer to a lens as 'glass'.... Without that, you're nothing.......... You're OK, tell him to get lost, he sounds unpleasant.

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

Couldn’t have put it better

[@archstanton1628]

Not really, but I do get self conscious if I'm near someone with an obviously larger budget 😁

[@archstanton1628]

We are kind of forced into buying Pro lenses though, I'm a lot further north than you are and the weather can be brutal. The only weather sealed non Pro lens that Olympus did was the 12-50, which I do have, but it's a bit of a jack of all trades master of none.

[@DI-cm5xc]

Does putting a round red sticker on my GX8 and covering up the Lumix name with black tape make me a snob or a trickster? Well, I avoid the Leica tax and get a chuckle when that one person in 1000 actually notices and makes a comment.

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

@@DI-cm5xc lol

[@dunnymonster]

I have a wide range of gear from high end professional to cheap and cheerful and use them interchangeably. If I'm doing client work then yes I absolutely need well made reliable gear. These days however even relatively entry level products are decently made and will get the job done. I'm pretty agnostic when it comes to brands as a whole. Money no object of course you'd buy the best of the best but sometimes buying the cheaper alternative can be a better choice depending on your use case. I could buy an entire ProPhoto lighting set up but would I want to use it in a shooting scenario where I might be in an area where there is a high risk of it getting damaged or stolen when cheaper gear that I could replace easily would be a more sensible option? The snob factor comes in from those that deem your choice of gear to be a reflection of your photographic ability and of course that simply isn't true.

[@andrewcleaver8523]

Hi Brian I have used both pro and so called amateur kit, the pro stuff was great for my low light weddings but for my day to day use now I have a g9 and a couple of average used lenses and I find them perfectly good for what I need, there are way too many kit snobs, people buy what they can afford and we all have budgets. So why do we care if it a f5.6-8.4 lens. Does it do the job you want, if yes then great. Keep up the great videos 😁👍

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

@@andrewcleaver8523 thank you, will do

[@KG-theknickerbockerkid]

not a professional. i do research to make sure camera can do what i need and buy what i can afford. enjoy printing photos and using as wall art at home and work.

[@don-at-large]

Just for myself, I am kind of partial to cheap and nasty. As you mentioned at 9:30. 🤣 Interesting video.

[@cjk1943]

I agree with you

[@etherealbolweevil6268]

Probably people who must have a little crocodile on their shirt, not Brian. Ignore.

[@ScruffyMisguidedAndBlue]

Yes for lenses, not for bodies.

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

@@ScruffyMisguidedAndBlue but are you a snob? Having, choosing or desiring great lenses is healthy and not snobbish…..unless you try to deride others for not having or being able to afford such lenses. I’m guessing you’re not a snob but someone who buys wisely 😀

[@paulhenry7]

If you buy expensive gear and brag about it, you're a snob. If you buy it to use, regularly or occasionally, or even just to own for your own personal satisfaction, but don't brag about it, then you're not. Some things can't be repeated, weddings being an obvious one, so for those you need good quality gear in depth.

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

@@paulhenry7 absolutely spot on

[@ggwildlife]

yes!

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

Honest lol

[@ggwildlife]

@@ThatMicro43Guy buy cheap buy twice ;)

[@WhoIsSerafin]

Only that I won’t ever buy used. I always want new. Even if I have to save up up and wait longer.

[@andirutherford2615]

@@WhoIsSerafin oh, I always want new but simple economics, and I by my nature am too impatient to wait

[@andirutherford2615]

Oh by theway up your neck of the woods at a local craft fair selling some local prints, if your about come in constructive critique welcome …. Calthwaite primary school

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

@@andirutherford2615 when is that?

[@andirutherford2615]

@@ThatMicro43Guy i ll double check, its my first one selling

[@andirutherford2615]

@@ThatMicro43Guy 24 November 2024, sorry took so long but been trying to decide what Pictures and other stuff to sell, hope they like red squirrels, Hope to see you if your about

[@andirutherford2615]

Certainly not, started seriously with second hand, this year finally bought a “NEW” OM 1 mk 2 and previous to that had a second hand OLYMPUS OM-D-E mk 2 which still use, why the upgrade well the OM1mk2 has the animal and bird recognition which I want. MFT isnt cheap and nasty, though I am tempted to buy the 150 to 600mm lens, but maybe a 100-400 will do, I have a perfectly good second hand 100-300. I do see people with all the flash gear, in fact saw one at Harrington on Monday night great sunset, but I bet his photos were no better than mine with second hand FZ80 bridge camera that I keep in the car, and that hardly snob value, but its still a good little camera ……… do like the OM1mkII is that being a snob, Ive just retired so was a gift to self …… you dont have a review on the 150 to 600 lens do you? Not been out long enough to get used

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

@@andirutherford2615 I don’t but I did an opinion piece on it after trying one with an om1/2 in a shop in Carlisle, I remember being very impressed. Obviously it wasn’t a full test. Looking at my video I think I came over as emphasising the wrong point. The snobbery is not in having good or even great gear, nor the fact it cost a lot. It was about this particular guys talking down to anyone who wasn’t at his (perceived) level. Almost an attitude of I’m superior to you because you even dare to look at something inexpensive. So no, likening something of quality or performance or cost is not being a snob, telling a person with an OM10 how inferior they are compared to you is. My friend Paul has a Lumix G9 plus the Leica 100-400 lens, I love it but he also has a Sony bridge camera with a 1” sensor. Snob value says that the Sony is inferior yet he gets amazing shots with the Sony which are sharper than the G9 combo. Best wishes

[@everydaygrandad5642]

Sold my 100-400 for 150-600 it’s soo much better 👌

[@ZOly62]

@@everydaygrandad5642 I think about it but weight scares me. I have very light 75-300mm and 40-150 + TC2.0 and read that new 150-600 is very good but weight? What is your imppression and suggestion?

[@sm-xd1wr]

Like many audiophiles, too much time and effort is spent listening for noise and not enough time listening to the music.

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

@@sm-xd1wr absolutely

[@ProbablyAnAmateur]

im a snob and proud of it!

[@Bhakti-rider]

😃

[@luzr6613]

I don't have any interest in arguing about gear - I care very much about the gear I choose for my work, and I don't give a fat rat's arse for whatever others may think about or choose for theirs. For my purposes i'm rigidly snobbish, but for anyone else's i'm completely ambivalent. So, 'Here's a shot - tell me what I used to get it'. Everyone has an opinion 'when they know', but nobody can tell just by looking at a photo. Your opinionated friend clearly doesn't understand that the best gear is the gear that's fit for purpose, and that his purpose is not, mercifully, the Alpha and Omega of photography.

[@ThatMicro43Guy]

@@luzr6613 absolutely

[@LadyBovine]

@@luzr6613 ambivalent ≠ indifferent

[@luzr6613]

@@LadyBovine Yes... but i'm not sure whether I'm honest or correct by saying that I'm 'indifferent' - just because I do notice and consider. What I don't do is pass a judgment on other's self-regarding choices.