Are You Romantic or Classical?

[@1287n]

Just commenting because of my profile picture.

[@Alicialaucirica]

+Nunja Bizniz nioce

[@TofiMaster]

+Nazeef Mollah What picture is it, care to explain?

[@1287n]

I just liked the picture. This might tell you more about it en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanderer_above_the_Sea_of_Fog

[@ahcmrock]

+Nazeef Mollah Same here.

[@alexbensen2821]

+Nazeef Mollah My profile picture is of Hitchcock, tells you about me

[@DualFrodo]

I don't think anyone perfectly fits into either catagory

[@andersv20]

***** As Alan Watts rightfully noted, the real world is filled with gooey prickles and prickly goos

[@tinturamadre6342]

+Chris Tully That's true, but I'm sure I'm way more classical than romantic :)

[@nastynategreenlotus]

me either

[@Angle66Essence]

+Chris Tully i think most people have both categories within them

[@vincenzoemanuelkleinszig9094]

I have to agree but I would put myself in the Classic category but in the last point (or maybe the last two points) I am romantic

[@MelissaCouch]

When they started discussing the Romantics, I thought, "Hey, I'm a Romantic!" Then they started discussing Classicists and I thought, "Wait, I'm Classical." Balance is key in all things. :)

[@wanderingsoul1189]

That's what exactly I was thinking. Yes, it's always both, but situation makes one dominate the other.

[@NIIVES]

I feel like I'm naturally a romantic type that's been born and raised in a classical environment, resulting in often being confused by both of them or dangling somewhere in the middle.

[@azarariamaryott5407]

I'm about the same except I was born in a much more romantic type environment and am naturally a classical type.

[@chuaTapia]

I feel you bro...

[@karl5722]

I wouldn't say that if I were in a develloped country but I would say it in a non-develloped country. The reason in develloped countries, feelings are put forth. If we take politics out, feelings in social media are so much put in value. "I feel like..." "MY truth is..."...etc So if you are in a develloped country you should say: I'm naturally a classist type that's been born in a romantic enviroment. (If it is conflicting ideas) I am neither classist or romantic and I take many ideals from both sides. Classism put self-control on people and improve ethics and stability within a nation, including tolerance, respect and a "conquering soul" (meaning that it isn't fragile) but it is bad because it impowers authoritarianism and people would no longer think individually and would just acfept what society tells them and that I think is really bad. There is romantism which in opposition with classism, promotes individual thinking, and to tell thinking and feelings to others. In romatism,

[@muskanbakes]

If you believe in what you are 'naturally', you are romantic, my friend.

[@mulherenascentista]

MAN I RELATE SO MUCH

[@BlueonGoldZ]

Awesome. I think I'm a hybrid (as I'm sure most people are). I'm probably 70% classicistcistcistcist and 30% romantic. Much of what was said about the classicist brought apparent links to my line of thoughts and attitude while at times I do have a romantic mindset.

[@Kasopea]

Same here :D

[@marmarino2070]

yes me too

[@terribletallrus6520]

I'm nearly 50-50, I feel. I love poetry & expressing myself emotionally. But I also love deep thought, analysis & critical appreciation of things. :)

[@terribletallrus6520]

I agree. Labelling urself can limit you. But having a rough idea of who you are can help you do things suited to your inclination and nature. Of course, you can allow yourself some scope to explore other options (options which supposedly don't fit your 'type').

[@lordstark2595]

I'm the same way. I agree with classicals about education, love, and analysis. However, with matters of government, and idealism I agree with Romantics.

[@Demention94]

What about a romantic at heart who has convinced himself he has to be a classical person :-(

[@seriouslynow595]

I'm kind of in the same boat.

[@MrDcpishere]

+Demention94 that's funny, I am actually the complete opposite

[@dinosaur4714]

If your heart beats true to romanticism, then you won't live it any other way.

[@AnupBhatt]

+Demention94 That's the phase I'm going through. You see the world and you go, "This shit wasn't made for a romantic !! Hell I can't even submit my honest opinion to the masses" :(

[@EZraw87]

+Demention94 I often feel the same. Keep in mind, nobody is entirely one thing or the other. You didn't convince yourself to strive for education and convention but rather, a part of you did. We all make choices for a reason, even if that reason is to discover you made the wrong choice.

[@AnaloguePixelOfficial]

I am this weird ass mix of romantic and classical attitudes that seem to have brewed into a conflicted, torn mess. There must be at least a few other people who are like this...

[@ayshkwem]

Analogue Pixel I think these kind of orientation is pretty fluid depending on the situation because I am both, same goes with being an introvert and extrovert.

[@AnaloguePixelOfficial]

***** I wouldn't call it beauty- to be honest, I just feel awkward ;)

[@AnaloguePixelOfficial]

***** If "facehitbybus" is your idea of beautiful ;)

[@AnaloguePixelOfficial]

Well, thank you...I guess - But you are probably more beautiful :P

[@jonaskoelker]

Analogue Pixel Recall that there are five axes (Intuition/Analysis, Spontaneity/Education, Honesty/Politeness, Idealism/Realism, Rare/Everyday). Consider this: if you're an all-or-nothing Romantic you're 5/0; an all-or-nothing Classical would be 0/5. There are five different ways of being 4/1 and five different ways of being 1/4 (on per axis-on-the-other-side). That's 12 combinations so far. There are 2*2*2*2*2 = 32 combinations in total, meaning there are 32 - 12 = 20 ways of being the remaining two options, 2/3 and 3/2. If people fall only on the endpoints of each axis and do so on a 50/50 pattern, which is probably an unreasonable assumption, then the numbers alone would suggest that most people (20 vs. 12) are a mix, like you are. Review exercise: out of "a conflicted, torn mess" and my counting exercise, which is more Romantic and which is more Classical? ;-) (I'm Analysis+, Education+, Honesty, Realism, Everyday+, with a plus indicating a stronger leaning. Honesty sticks out as my one Romantic feature.)

[@Shunarjuna]

Classical here but why do I prefer romantic art and music?

[@Procastinator47]

+Shunarjuna Perhaps, WE are trying to find a balance or compensate for a predominantly 'classical' way of thinking? Just a personal opinion :)

[@mankytoes]

+Shunarjuna Because life isn't black and white? These are useful concepts, but we should never just split people into two absolute blocks. Don't you feel you're more complex than that? I definitely would say I'm classical overall, but on the last point made here I'd say I'm romantic- I prefer different and new ideas to the everyday. Maybe we are both around 80% classical? Though even that's an oversimplification, because our 80% is in different areas.

[@Wild4lon]

because romantic music evokes feelings of a strength which we hardly feel in our day to day lives. that's why i love chopin or beethoven or rachmaninoff. they also contain the most intricate patterns, such as chopin's chord progressions and split chords/ arpeggio runs/ dim 7th runs, or his etudes which are all based strongly on scales and runs (favourites include winter wind and revolutionary)

[@Logan912]

+Shunarjuna Romantic music doesn't necessarily align with Romantic society in itself. It was just a difference in musical composition styles that came between Classical and Modern.

[@Popopatop]

thats beautiful id love to hear how you relate to those classical things!! this comment sounds sarcastic but im serious, as i am a romantic myself and don't relate really at all with those things on the other side but would love to hear about how it is for you as one of my fellow people.

[@lukeluke7158]

I only watch the videos with this guys best british accent. It also makes it sound better and more convincing becasue british people are considered smart in sydney.

[@aNaRcLaSm]

+The School of Life “A revolution on a world scale will take a very long time. But it is also possible to recognize that it is already starting to happen. The easiest way to get our minds around it is to stop thinking about revolution as a thing - “the” revolution, the great cataclysmic break-and instead ask “what is revolutionary action?” We could then suggest: revolutionary action is any collective action which rejects, and therefore confronts, some form of power or domination and in doing so, reconstitutes social relations-even within the collectivity-in that light. Revolutionary action does not necessarily have to aim to topple governments. Attempts to create autonomous communities in the face of power (using Castoriadis’ definition here: ones that constitute themselves, collectively make their own rules or principles of operation, and continually reexamine them), would, for instance, be almost by definition revolutionary acts. And history shows us that the continual accumulation of such acts can change (almost) everything.” -David Graeber

[@kylenetherwood8734]

The prisoner thing is just banter.

[@Bedrinonen]

+Luke Luke You really would have to be the other side of the planet to develop that impression

[@MrUndersolo]

So, you are a Romantic? 😐

[@myslmysl]

+O'Brien This comment put a cheshire cat grin on my face.

[@GrubKiller436]

Before watching the video, I predicted that I would be a Classical. But I turned out to be rather 50/50. I was born a Romantic, always living life so naturally that I never knew it was that way. My feelings were important to me and significantly helped shape my empathy and morals. But those are times that I hardly remember. As my unbiased mentality for self-criticism developed, I became a Classical. I cared much less about subjective matters. I wouldn't hesitate to criticize my own perspectives for what would be more realistic (0:49). So I abandoned the burden and weight of my emotions, and I chose to live a life of investment. I worked and worked, and worked and struggled... I've persevered, but I nearly killed myself in the process. It was because such a life was not fulfilling, the way I lived my life completely sucked the joy from the presence of my life... in return for promises of a "better future". From that experience, I've realized that living a life without feelings and emotions such as joy and fulfillment... was a detriment to my mental health. In the depths of depression... optimism, hope, faith and will-power were my most useful tools that would guide me out of that hole. And no, I wouldn't call it blind faith. For he who who says he can and he who says he can't are both usually right. Thus, I've re-developed my side of the Romantic. I believe that my actions should be genuine and convey what I truly feel. I will no longer drag my life with me as though my present being is meant to suffer for the sake of my future self. It is the Romantic side of me that will inspire me and push me towards new heights. While the Classical side of me will always be there to allow me to understand rationality and objectivity.

[@chilledinlife4125]

My friend idk why you don’t have more likes than everyone else. I’m going through a similar transition in life. I was born and raised a romantic but so many of my fears and anxiety stemmed out of classical theory. Since my father is a hardcore classical person I have bits engrained deep inside me of classical but I always fought it until recently when I realized and accepted that both romantic and classical are just theories. They both have good and bad and we as humans have the power to choose what to pick from each of it and what to ignore. That revelation of that power, although it feels and sounds obvious in retrospect, it is a game changer!!!

[@chilledinlife4125]

I feel seen by this comment. Thank you for taking the time to be honest and share it with us!

[@jonaslundholm]

I'm a romantic and I totally embrace it.

[@masonbrown9155]

good for you

[@pewsterbaby]

Jeffery Lebowski you should applaud him, since The Big Lebowski is pretty much the most romantically orientated male in modern popular culture.

[@jonaslundholm]

dave474c No and no. :)

[@Popopatop]

ME TOO HOW BEAUTIFUL YES YES AH YES

[@middleofdecember9862]

a typical comment from a romantic person

[@pinkelephant4591]

I honestly feel that this is a false dichotomy, the idea that if one is rational and analytical they tend not to be idealists or that they dislike art and adventure seems like a gross generalisation.

[@BusterKingSyros]

+Pink Elephant Certainly some of the categories are a dichotomy, like it is impossible to be completely honest and be polite at the same time. That being said I think that some people mix and match the categories, they are romantic is some and classical in others, and I think that this is what school of life is championing.

[@giselledsouza4073]

+Brandon Smith One can be honest and polite at the same time; it's most commonly referred to as "tact".

[@BusterKingSyros]

That is certainly true, but is there a tactful way of telling someone they are an idiot? At a certain point you must decide between completely honest and getting along.

[@giselledsouza4073]

Define "idiot"

[@BusterKingSyros]

A stupid person.

[@nbultman_art]

Im a romantic in my heart, but a classical on the outside. I understand the importance of classical values in terms of business and acquiring wealth, which I keep separate from the romanticized life i live with my friends, family, and alone time.

[@roy.shrestha]

Same

[@evakaye5897]

I'm classical as all fucks.

[@jjpeeler6494]

Same

[@ab-kv7oq]

same

[@elizabethopoussm]

same

[@AJBFilmsGroup]

Alyssa Vee same

[@geslee2533]

Alyssa Vee me too

[@coweatsman]

I can identify with both to some degree.

[@thomasrivera8626]

PEOPLEEE, there is more than just 2 movements... there is Barroco, realists, medieval, etc... After this video everybody commenting is either Romantic or Classical, goodness haha there are other stuff to admire and study.

[@sgshaday]

Romanticism did bring back the heroic aspects of medieval ages... It was call medievalist work.

[@aricm5973]

They're probs the movements with the most emphasis on attitude lmao

[@AnirudhGargSage]

My thoughts are classical, but my ideals and personality are romantic.

[@Chantieluvs]

I am very much a classical person until you get to the topic of rebellion against the ordinary. I'd much rather everyone try to embrace unique and new perspectives on life. #TheSchoolofLife

[@anarchyandempires5452]

I'm a classical like no question about it straight classic.

[@TheDrB0B]

k

[@Egg8000]

What are your thoughts about romantic types?

[@trent6319]

Your name is anarchy empire

[@jinspicyramen]

I'm a classical like no question about it gay classic.

[@ritarebel2844]

Same here

[@WateverWatever04]

"Politeness is a lid that supresses that which might destroy us." Wow, beautiful...

[@MUSTASCH1O]

I love how balanced the views of this channel are. It is often depressing to see people insisting on points of view that are too far either way as it leads to needless conflict. Subscribed.

[@trexbra8715]

i honestly couldn't choose between both i learnt about romanticism and the classical era back in school and at the time i thought i more identified with romanticism. However now that i look back at it and even now i find myself caught in the middle, I'm a philosopher and historian i like to be realistic, optimistic and pessimistic at the same time i strive for idealism but am firmly grounded in the here and now. I accept if not cherish my inner child but cherish being nice, polite and reserved as well, I want adventure and to seek and explore the world at large but enjoy every day things and fret over what i have and weather or not i'm truly appreciating life, i know i will have many regrets in life but wish to live a life with no regrets. Yet i find myself conflicted because i fear contradictions and hate hypocrisy with a passion but also know it's contradictions that help us define and contrast life itself and all it has in store for us which leads me to find deeper meaning in life and in the same hand be realistic and tempered about it and all of this is to better myself and help me be more than just myself for i know it is the world around me and the people involved in our world and mine that define us develop us and give us purpose so really we're more than just ourselves, but we are eternally lonely and seperate from others which makes us different yet unique and special and yet seek to find someone who shares the same values as ourselves which is funny and sad all at once becuase it's as simple as being loved, accepted and understood yet it is others that allow us to do so let alone validate our own existence.... dammit i feel conflicted at times :P

[@makeucry27]

I'm classical in a romantic way!

[@MsDanceDiva234]

I totally have a classical mindset. Never really heard of the idea on Romantic vs Classical until this video.

[@oayabacnhoj6855]

I'm enjoying how The School of Life is including more diverse photos and art from different parts of the world. Kudos to including African American aristocracy and Japanese art as one of the examples.

[@JavierCR25]

I love how the end up saying that neither are perfect or right and that both should be balanced. We need both of these currents in our lives.

[@ragtimegals]

i'm romantic to the extreme and i dont feel like the rest of society is like this at all... at least where i live, everyone tries to be as simple and basic and realistic as possible and i hate it

[@ragtimegals]

***** true

[@grandsome1]

That bs people try to be classical but most act as romantics, the marketers and consumer economic wants us to behave so.

[@mrssauron5625]

Grandsome The consumer economy relies both on classic and romantic traits in people. You can't really pin it on one or the other.

[@mrssauron5625]

ragtimegals If you feel lonely, you should try reading Sense and Sensibility - Marianne will be your friend ;) It might also teach you both to appreciate and to ignore rationalism, all depending upon the situation.

[@briannyhuis7498]

computer people

[@cimmik]

I'm a romantic. Sometimes I wish I had more of the classical character traits.

[@GrubKiller436]

It takes months, sometimes years of personal experience of serious self-evalution + self-criticism to develop certain Classical traits. I see the Romantic as emotional honesty and chivalry. I see the Classical as discipline from knowledge and experience.

[@cimmik]

Fantasy☯Fangs So sweet of you.

[@Nitaveferor]

im 80% romentic 20 classical kinda like that. sometimes i wish i could be more classical but at the same time i would be going against i am .-.

[@comradebreigir5638]

1. Intuition vs. Analysis Marginally Classicist on this one Internally, I am highly self-critical of myself, and too often, to a self-destructive level. But I believe the best way we are going live our life is to understand it to its fullest. One of the few tools we have to make sense of what has happened and is happening is logic in my mind. Intellectuals' opinions should definitely matter because they have taken some time to think and reorganize in a comprehensive way what we are feeling. It is the one of the few ways to see the big picture. However there is a romantic tone to my view of intuition. Having vivid imaginations and dreams is the basis to analyze ourselves and who we are. Just thinking logically and analytically, in my mind, is a recipe of being unknown to yourself and discovering yourself on a deep level. 2. Spontaneity vs. Education I am mostly a Classicist on this one. I have a high value for education, even if I am really discontent with the current education systems. Although it is better for people at times to learn lessons on their own, we cannot figure out many of the world's complexity without help. The fact is the world is a confusing and often times a frightening place. We need education and skills to manage our own case of chaos in the world. Dismissing it to 'follow your heart' frustrates me because often times, I am even sure if people understand their own heart if they are not listening to anyone but what their emotions are telling them. It is not emotional purity, it is just too folly, 3. Frankness vs. Politeness I am almost completely Romantic on this one. It is weird that many people regard me as a polite person, because I go through much effort to be honest how I feel about almost everything. Regardless, politeness is an idea that has intrigued me and overtime, I have been slowly drifting towards. I have been more reserved about my opinions, I have often sugar-coded truths when I do not see myself as that kind of person. In that light, it is even more odd that the most respectable trait my friends find about me is I am honest about my emotions-- in a weird yet charming way. I make it no mystery what my interests are and what I believe. So, I would say I am kind/sensitive (?), but not necessarily polite. 4. Idealism vs. Realism I am strongly Romantic on this one. One of the most obvious things about my personality is I am an idealist. It do not take practically as the prime concern when it comes to society, but it has an important role. Idealism must be the foundation on how our society is behaved and organized and practically is useless in this department because this is a matter of perspective. Our ideals should be our endgoal and we, as a society, need to fight for those ideals. But if realism is not there as a cautioning voice for danger when we need it, our dreams for a better world will go horribly wrong. To clarify, I am a not a pragmatist (thus being romantically inclined on this section), it just means I believe that statistics and data do matter-- not solely ideas or emotions. Overall, I am more of a Romantic thinker than a Classical one. But I do have significant elements of Classical thought in my way of thinking.

[@AvianSavara]

The "child who points out that the emperor has no clothes" is likely a classical ;)

[@GrubKiller436]

Not quite.

[@JoshiiiiBlue]

he would probably be too polite to point out the fact that he has no clothes on :D

[@vvohvaelez9277]

No, that would be the impulsive intuitive romantic. The logical classicist would find no reason to make such an inflammatory remark

[@KenTheAdventurer]

Romantics aren't delusional they keep it real and aren't fake remember

[@ericreingardt2504]

It's saying the child points out the truth with blunt honesty which is what classicals avoid

[@TruthOverEverything]

Intuition and emotion can give you a quick answer and it CAN be right, but just because something is quick and it CAN be right does not make it so. Approaching life based on how you're "feeling" is a quick way to screw yourself over, it's why robots will outperform humans on singular tasks and specifically anything that requires deep thinking. Truth is truth and you can take many paths to get there, but the most consistent is critical/rational/objective thought.

[@GrifMoNeY]

This is more or less true, and as a self-labeled rationalist I always push for more of the "classical" as depicted in the video. However, I will note that intuition suffices for more than 95% of day-to-day tasks, and our daily lives would be staggeringly difficult if we had to use System 2 mechanical thinking to decide, for example, what would be the optimal time to call a business contact to make sure he wasn't at lunch or in a meeting. In such a case, it will be difficult to recall what time he "normally" eats lunch, but as you're staring at the clock, your gut will have a better memory for that sort of thing and can tell you (in the form of a "bad feeling") that now might not be a good time.

[@christopherstory3226]

Truth is a romantic idea, but I'm game. Emotion permits us to cooperate in large enough numbers to rule the world. Emotion drives us to build robots that will be the end of us. Reason is no more than a means to our impulsive ends.

[@TruthOverEverything]

What "emotion" is driving people to build robots, I could easily argue that people think as follows: I want an easier/more comfortable life (logical) How can I attain this? (logical) I'll build things that allow for this to take place (logical)

[@VexylObby]

The word for the first descriptions: arbitrary. I agree.

[@SuperTheguy1234]

without an adaptable brain, robots will never be able to replace us. As soon as one thing goes wrong, a robot will simply say "does not compute" and not react to the stimulus. Humans can react to a not perfect situation.

[@Sephajinami]

I'm on both sides because I believe that different situations call for different actions and approaches.

[@CaptainOvious123]

so many edgy teens in the comment section

[@melihekinci7758]

yeah as if you weren't a teenager once, stfu old bag

[@judyclarkson5887]

Put everything that seems 'odd' to a social standard,, and call them edgy.. Such a laziness i would say. Learn more about literatures, cranky man.

[@sgshaday]

@@judyclarkson5887 I think edgy is more... Moody... Less odd... Just... Gloom-mood.

[@ericreingardt2504]

@@judyclarkson5887 edge Lords trying to put up a fake face to appear smarter and deeper than they really are

[@krishnagopalsrivastava2084]

I think the most helpful solution to this heart vs head conundrum lies in this quote :- "Follow your heart but take your mind with you".

[@CharmedKitty143]

I think like a romantic but I act like a classical.

[@urbanwzrd]

I think battling romantic and classical against eachother is entertaining, but in reality they coexist side-by-side in each of us. I personally lean more towards the classical side. Great video, and awesome channel

[@laura987123]

What an interesting video I definitely lean heavily to the classical side with just a little bit of romantic sprinkled in

[@LabradorInterior]

I´m 80% Classical, 20% Romantic. Glad to hear is up to us to make a change :)

[@phobos7076]

Same

[@LabradorInterior]

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[@JustAChannel_13]

Is it that last one that makes you somewhat romantic? That's the one that got me. I'm classical in everything but the last one, it sounds terrible to me. I want to get out and find something new.

[@LabradorInterior]

I think in almost every point I see some value of being Romantic, I would say I´m 80% Classical in every point :)

[@scorpiofairy2705]

lm in the other side of the mirror

[@rogerwilco2]

I don't feel like either description fits me very well.

[@12345saoma]

+RogerWilco And that's totally fine! You are your own original person at the end of the day :)

[@albertcamus9338]

+RogerWilco you strike a balance which is good being too romantic makes you irrational, senseless, and sensitive whilst classical makes you more depressing to be around and you understand others feelings less I am more classical but not completely which is necessary.

[@LemonCurry.]

as this video is explaining it, I'm a classical romantic (instead of what I've always believed I was, namely a romantic classical)

[@strategicgaming2291]

A romantics life seems so much happier.

[@K0ragg]

strategicgaming22 Perhaps it has more "waves" of happiness, but they definitely live sadness with a lot more intensity as well...

[@strategicgaming2291]

***** To me it seems an idealistic life has purpose or at least a search for one. Personally to me that sounds much more appealing then the idea that I am right here, right now, on this earth, and I exist just to pay bills.

[@K0ragg]

strategicgaming22 Who says you exist to just pay bills though?

[@strategicgaming2291]

K0ragg No ones says it, but actions point towards it.

[@K0ragg]

strategicgaming22 For you maybe.

[@lemonyjazmin645]

I'm a romantic and I value authenticity but I have a filter and I am polite.

[@wellesradio]

I kept waiting for this video to say, Ïf you believe one of these describes your perfectly, you just fell for a false binary. It's really not too different from the Forer effect, confirmation bias and the need to belong to one camp over another." But that didn't happen. Anyhow, this is still important to know in the context of western history and different schools of thought. But really instead of presenting it in terms of "you", which the video admits isn't the case much any more, it should have spoken in historical terms and what we can learn about ourselves from that.

[@alexanderdelacruz9249]

welles well,was thinking the same thing.

[@E3kiel]

SUCH a classical thing to say...

[@wellesradio]

J :D As Borges said (though I prefer Poe's version) "The art of writing is mysterious; the opinions we hold are ephemeral, and I prefer the Platonic idea of the Muse to that of Poe, who reasoned, or feigned to reason, that the writing of a poem is an act of the intelligence. It never fails to amaze me that the classics hold a romantic theory of poetry, and a romantic poet a classical theory."

[@Psyxic_Crimes]

I'm a rational Romantic if that makes any sense. Lol.

[@SydneySings137]

NT's vs NF's.

[@tizianavallone1969]

omg that's what i was thinking while watching the video! What personality type are you? (just curious)

[@marta-dy4no]

I also thought about MBTI when I watched this, haha. I'm an INTP and I feel like I'm a mix between the spontaneity and idealism of the Romantic (Ne) + the logic and 'politeness' of the Classical (Ti + Fe?).

[@simonferal]

+m a r t a a a I'm also an INTP. I felt that it was too dogmatic to choose the category of romantic or classical. I'll always be on the fence.

[@litletrickster5260]

as an entp i am literally 50 50 on this

[@whitepatriarch1708]

Graphite I'm INTP too. No wonder we are mixed romantic / classical types. T stands for responsibility and P for spontaneity. So, we are responsibly spontaneous :)

[@ursulageorgeson7086]

I used to be a Romantic until heartbroken by a classicist invalidating my out of control emotions. It's worth taking a bit of both. Emotional regulation and rediscovering a deep respect for classical artistic principles have really helped balance my mind.

[@glowcitybluei.s9120]

I'm classic outside my home but romantic inside😑...does that make sense?

[@Handgun777]

no, you're being two faced. Your picture is literally a bear with two sides.

[@Hal-kj8ip]

Are you the real Two-Face?

[@FRISHR]

Your personality is romantic but your behaviour is classic.

[@allykat5899]

GlowCityBlue I.S I,m a little of both too

[@gorgor6978]

I think all we, who dream big and consider ourselves romantic, are too afraid to actually act in such a manner, because we also feel a lot more insecure, afraid and terrified, and worst of all, we let those feelings get the better of us. So, in a way, we comfort to what is ordinary and accepted, in order to contain that feeling of dread. I find myself feeling awkward, nauseous, anxious etc when I am confronted to make a choice, even though I truly believe in something deep inside, I fear that I might be wrong in said belief, and I've always questioned myself. I think doubt is presented in both romantic and classic personalities, in the first it is introverted and presented through sadness, deep emotions of sorrow, but through the classic viewpoint, it's just a reminder that nothing is sure, and that a balanced life is always better than falling to an extreme, a sort of a philosophical waypoint pleading to a more logical and thoughtful approach to life.

[@AmericanGuy7654]

I think this video has the Ideal vs Realism chapter backwards: if anything the classical is aiming towards the ideal while romantics recognize only the real

[@Charloteblahblah]

4. Idealism vs. Realism- This made me realise that when it comes to this, my Dad is a romantic and i am classical. This would explain why we have so many heated debates at family gatherings. But i don't mind, that's way more fun than talking nonsensical crap about X Factor. So glad that's *not* my family.

[@lara6893]

If you are wondering, the painting at 0:40 its called: The sleeping gypsy.

[@e.t.464]

I guess I would be the third option. The guy in the seat eating popcorn, not seeking meaning, nor running from boredom.

[@SrNkolaidis]

+E.T. sounds sad.

[@e.t.464]

Konstantin Nikolaidis Why?

[@SrNkolaidis]

cuz it's not happy

[@e.t.464]

Konstantin Nikolaidis I know many go through life searching for happiness. I was the same when I was depressed. However I couldn't deal with that search, its a confusing chaotic state of mind. Easy to get distracted, mislead. Searching for happiness, hiding from pain and boredom. Not what I call living. You create a polarity within yourself, a conflict. All that stems from a fear of being nothing, apposed to being something. How do you receive this?

[@SrNkolaidis]

E.T. that's some good shit. I don't believe it. But I can see how someone else could.

[@chilledinlife4125]

I’m such a mix of both that I feel alienated by either extreme

[@RaeKearns]

Same here...

[@johnmraz4332]

I'm a pretty even mix between the two. On matters concerning a group or the world I tend toward classicism whereas on topics concerning the self like honesty and certain parts of interpersonal relationship I'm a romantic.

[@Megan-vt2qr]

this is true :p

[@derpyhooves7349]

I am impressed by the lack of bias towards either side of the coin this video shows. Very well done. :)

[@TheRealFaceyNeck]

I believe that there was a bias from one's own office written into this video; in other words, the people/person involved in its creation believe(s) we live in a world favoring the romantic. ...and I believe severely that is not the case. Here are my 'arguments': -Judicial system -Police -Hourly wage -Formal attire -Business attire -Business Casual attire -Casual attire -STATUS ANXIETY (I lol'd a bit when I wrote this one down) -Spirituality with an absolute FOCUS on religion and not experience -I'll stop here for now I will not post here whether or not I believe I am a Romantic or a Classical. I will just post some (...what I consider) tacit and tautologous observations of the Western World from whence I've came.

[@FernandoFaria]

+Facey Neck Yes. A Judge don't use it's heart in nothing and today don't even it's reason, is all writen, all is jurisprudence.

[@OrangeblossomCraftsCanada]

+Facey Neck I agree with the bias. Society is VERY 'classical' that wants us to believe it's impulsive & creative. If people suddenly lived more Romantically, creative & open-minded like children, it wouldn't be society as we've known it. I also think some people are misinterpreting Romantic as 'crude' and Classical as 'evolved'.

[@TheRealFaceyNeck]

Orangeblossom Your comment was flagged as Spam. I've no idea why. I agree with what you've written, but I would've unflagged it as well if you said something I disagreed with. (...provided you wrote it well of course. XD)

[@OrangeblossomCraftsCanada]

Facey Neck Meh, it happens. Some people are upset when others have a different opinion on life than they do. Oh well. Cheers & happy holidays to you, Facey!

[@PoisonHeadcrab2]

+Facey Neck I'd say those things you mention certainly have been established by rather 'classical' thinking, however most of them were created a long time ago, and have been around since. I think the point that was made at the end of the video, which I fully agree with, is that the trend is more towards romantic thinking. Just compare the things you mentioned with how they were 50 years ago. Certainly a lot more strict and formal. Nowadays it's a lot more "hip" to criticize the government, the police or authority and rules in general, in fact I have the feeling that romantic thinking is currently accepted the most by society.

[@selvanegrra]

I was born a romantic, but life shaped me into a more classical-type mind. I wish I could still go around loving everybody and expecting the best of life.

[@SuicidalKiller4life]

Most people think they are classical. Their friends think they are romantic

[@outsider3825]

I used to wonder why I can't be romantic like others, now I know I'm more in the classical side...

[@tamsinthai]

I believe people are a mix of both to a greater or lesser degree. I'm personally a Romantic Pragmatist.

[@sugarbats7223]

I love typing like this! It's very important to have a mix of both sides; and its interesting what resonates with you and why it may not resonate with other people. I'm mostly classical; I try and put aside my feelings for logic and find more happiness in coming home to some "boring" things. I have a jumpy schedule at work right now; and I find the schedule uncomfortable because it isn't routine, but it's a great job, I love it. But i do find I get boiled over people who get away with horrible things, and think high expectations for a bright future are the key to achieving something great. thanks for the video!

[@devtogoru]

I think the spirit of the age is not just romantic these days. People are so politically correct it's Impressionist!

[@All3me1]

hating politic correctness makes me just think of right wing policy

[@tarvoc746]

+All3me1 I'm far left and I also don't like political correctness.

[@All3me1]

Tarvoc people that are against political correctness are complaining about stuff they think they aren`t allowed to say. What do you want to say that you are against political correctness?

[@devtogoru]

All3me1 I have to reread your comment three times, and still don't get your point

[@tarvoc746]

All3me1 Huh? Reforming language (and subsequently thought) by removing certain words and expressions from it is precisely the point of political correctness. And yes, I have familiarized myself with the theories behind it.

[@TheKnowledgeMan101]

I'm somewhere in the middle of this. I believe rationality, truth and reality should be prioritized above feelings, but I still strive for an ideal world, love the rarity and uniqueness, love the feelings of love and happiness, and I feel like I'm more spontaneous than organised because while I still think that education and evidence is the better way to go, for most of the time in my life, I do things spontaneously rather than follow an everyday routine. I think my guide to life is what David Hume once said, which is "Be a philosopher, but amidst your philosophy, be still a man".

[@solseeker7502]

For all of you people claiming to be X% Classical or X% Romantic, show me your math or shut it.

[@carbonbasedlifeform8394]

You can figure it out pretty simply through a observation of your personality.

[@darikozz]

I'm apparently both. Sometimes I'm completely classical and some other times I'm completely romantic. I build myself up romantically and tear myself down classically more often than not. I think that, because of this, not even I can understand my train of thoughts. Sometimes I imagine a love at first sight scenario and enjoy it fully with outlandish details and after thinking it through again I criticize myself for being so unrealistic and blind to my emotions. My classmates feared me because of my constant facial expression, and then they'd talk to me and notice my caricatural smile conveying my complete devotion to the conversation. I've concluded I'm an awkward mess of both thought processes and that lends itself to a great and unpredictible experience in the future.

[@jesica2466]

You’ve described me well

[@Megablast668]

Yeah I'm DEFINITELY more Romantic

[@rockssocks3174]

Hello! My name is Leah and I just wanted you to know that I love your videos! i'm watching them from all the way over here in Canada :) Keep up the wonderful content

[@maryfoxx6019]

Who here thinks based on the ending comments of the person, that perhaps the person is a wee bit on the Classical side and thus seems to favor it biasly? Heh.. I myself... eh, suppose a bit of both on many things, tho leaning Romantic.

[@WinChun78]

A lot of romantic poetry drew very deeply from the classical age! Keats and Shelley especially.

[@Lip22Gloss]

according to my calculations, I am 60% romantic, and 20% classical

[@kalpic11]

2:33 This is a trait in Pisces. I read it in a lot of assessments for that sign. And it's completely me.

[@johnnywithashotgun4489]

Pure Romantic right here...

[@AjaxNixon]

I'm pretty classical. Was about half and half a few years ago, but now in my mid 20s I identified with the classical ideals.

[@BrushedPencil]

Can we stop trying to put people in two boxes? I can relate to both romantic and classical ideals. I don't know one person who is strictly either. It's just bothersome when people ignore that some people are in between the two extremes or are something else all together.

[@Hubris030]

School of Life are still learning as well, compare their older videos to their new ones and you will find that they are on the right path

[@mphokesitwetshoagong3552]

Hello I was enrolled on the short course on Imagination of European Romantics at the University of California at Berkeley Extension program and took an A on my short course however I am more biased towards the classics of Plato or in other instances Aristotle so that I derive more pleasure in reading The Republic or The Laws of Plato or Politics of Aristotle than maybe from indulging in the poetic reading of William Wordsworth or Samuel Coleridge or Lord Byron however I am intrigued by the T.S Eliot lecture particularly the Ockham lecture of 2020 which I requested that it should be attached to my Oxford MBA in 2023 at Merton College, thank you , Mpho ; Kesitwe :Tshoagong.

[@MAMAjAMAj8]

Keep your science classical and your art romantic.

[@AndrewHokanson]

mostly classical, with some romanticism

[@lexisrez2895]

Romansical, anyone? Also the painting on 4:06 is Nightmare by Henry Fuseli, coincidentally, my screensaver. Thank you for this video!

[@SamuelJFord]

I enjoyed this video, but only in the way that someone might enjoy reading their horoscope. I don't think grouping these various traits into two distinct categories has any basis in reality/human neurology. Even if it does, the idea isn't presented with any supporting evidence. Still it's an interesting concept. - The opinion of a classical human.

[@MrMinorChord]

1) Hatred of overthinking, but understanding the importance of analysis, and dislike of superficial details. 2) 100% favor for education 3) I keep secrets, and I guess my honesty with you depends on how much I know and trust you. 4) I find, instead of comparing the current world to an imagined alternative, I'm contemplating what that alternative should actually be, to mitigate the downsides. I hate corruption and selfishness, I think if everyone were a little more patient, the world would be a better place. 5) Hatred of the ordinary. WITH A PASSION. I'm very mixed, but I think I'm classical overall.

[@purplepuppy2132]

I am both though. I'm an INFP in mbti btw, for my fellow mbti enthusiasts.

[@brigidg7553]

I'm both, and I'm INFJ. My first thoughts were exactly, "oh, the infps/infjs are going to be so torn..."

[@erisdiscord1618]

I am an INTP, the most logical, but I do desire a dose of romanticism, since I am an artist, and enjoy music as well, particularly from the 1800s.

[@9KariKiri6]

Purple Puppy ISTP, classical but also spontaneous

[@ericreingardt2504]

Everybody is some kind of combination of the two. It's a great thing human beings are as skilled at creating practical things like power plants and air planes while at the same time capable of creating works of art. These shouldn't be in conflict with each other, a well-rounded person can understand both

[@lgmmrm]

100% romantic and I disagree, the current government and society is too focused on utilitarianism and enlightenment thinking, we need to turn more to a system based in values and measures of humankind.

[@majorsellllllllll]

You're right! Bring back the eugenics and racial hygiene for values and measures of humankind

[@lgmmrm]

majorsellllllllll My point is that we're too close to the idea of eugenics and racial hygiene. We need to move back to a system that actually places value on the human life rather than treating them as an ends to a mean.

[@English_Thespian]

You do realise eugenics stems from utilitarianism, right?

[@lgmmrm]

MusketWalrus a classical idea, not a romantic one.

[@0ld_Scratch]

and in what world should we live in? your perfect world or mine? a classical or a romantic? logic created weapons of mass destruction, emotion used them

[@whyar3y0uga34]

Romanticism is so....alluring. To be insane for your feelings and be a blaze of glory is so inspring

[@rubickscube4510]

classical master race

[@NoctisAugustus]

1. Analysis 2. Education 3. Politeness 4. Realism 5. The Rare

[@emivesprini4655]

Funny, I think the spirit of the age is pretty classical

[@joysfulljourney]

Emi Vesprini same here

[@IanMacLeansnv]

Again, like your voter short, you don't credit Robert Pirsig. I would urge you to read Lila (you've clearly already read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance) and make a video on the MOQ (Metaphysics of Quality).

[@MrMarbles0Xecution]

For each of these, i found i was classical, then romantic, then classical, then romantic. that was just confusing.

[@talknight2]

+MrMarbles0Xecution then you must be well balanced on average :P

[@ashrulzubir3068]

wow I fit only classic, never thought I could be classify into a a quite detailed group. This is quite legit to me.

[@poison03nae]

can u be both. .. lmao. each one describe me lol

[@Buzzard061]

danae hernandez dido

[@Hal-kj8ip]

Why do you need to fall into a category? the only category you should fall under is "Homo-Sapien".

[@ThePa1riot]

Let me line up myself by the numbers: 1. Intuition 2. Education 3. Uhhh hard to say because I suppose I'd lean toward politeness and do prefer to avoid conflict but I loathe insincere talk and actions. One should say what they mean and mean what they say. So maybe I need some clarification? 4. HARD Idealist! 5. This last one I'm a little lost on simply because I honestly haven't given much thought on it. Soooo I guess at the end I lean slightly to the romantic end of things. Not at all surprising honestly.

[@ThePa1riot]

Ah I missed that typo. Thank you for pointing it out to me.

[@NJ-wb1cz]

Ok, I'm done. Binge watched few videos, love the first ones, but now clear pattern emerges - these are quite subjective quite narrow elements of social science, made not to educate, but provide just enough information on the subject to draw in views and sell merchandise. And once you don't watch the video that distracts your brain with pretty images, only listening to actual words - then the lack of substance becomes so apparent it really starts to bother, it's just some guy telling his opinion about things, or stretching some simple fact like "People's insecurities could draw them into destructive relationships" to fill 3 to 6 minute video.. This useless list was the last straw. It doesn't put anything into perspective, it's just naming stuff, either you're that or that, and actually all people are both, and those sorts of position can change multiple times during life/year/month/or even day. It's not in the context of history of philosophy (which it should've been), directly applying romantic/classical labels to complex behaviors and positions of actual living humans is beyond simplistic. And it ends with dropping all pretense of objectivity and flat out producing an extraordinary claim that modern world is predominantly romantic, without any sort of explanation or reasoning. Why?? What country/province/city/demographic are you talking about? What is "spirit of the age" anyway, we vast differences between regions on pretty much every relevant statistic to this video, from education, to religion, to way of life, to goals in life, etc. We have whole countries moving concurrently towards hardcore atheism and hardcore religion. Even if you limit yourself to some 'default' country, which I guess is USA in this case, - NASA budget, the romantic one, is a pittance, while military, the classic one, dominates, yet religion (romantic) slowly wins over science (classical), etc. It's a very complex topic and this random unsubstantiated claim, used as a summary of the whole video, was ridiculous. This channel certainly has some production values and a smart-sounding British accent of the voice actor, but content-wise - looks more like a *BuzzFeed of social sciences* if you will, with not a lot bigger amount of real value. Guess I'll wait for CrashCourse philosophy instead. Too bad they already did a psychology course and it was more geared towards medical side than everyday one. Btw, thank you, dear reader, if you actually managed to get through this whole thing :)

[@experienceseeker07]

I'm a romantic male with the personality type INFP. But I like to have a balance. Energy has to be in a flow state. Both living by my energies and living by discipline are essential for me. Especially since I'm a medical student.

[@x1legoman1x]

I'm INTP

[@alexbensen2821]

+John Lipski I'm INTJ, if you care

[@x1legoman1x]

Alex Bensen ok

[@adiloyango]

+Alex Bensen Good to see I'm not alone!

[@hawk0485]

+Alex Bensen ahh this part of the internet again, well NT for the win, reason above all :)

[@x1legoman1x]

+hawk0485 indeed

[@cloxjorlik4448]

Well done on these videos! Great stepping stones unto greater understanding.

[@NathalieLS1997]

Am I the only one that finds the romatic mind silly, childlike and naive?

[@scorpiofairy2705]

Unfortunately, no

[@purplepuppy2132]

you've proven you are too classical if that has how you feel. I have attributes of both but am more romantic, and I find classical's aversion to change to be boring and counterproductive to important social changes

[@lucae6931]

it is true but it is more fun living like that

[@Hereforthevids.]

This video still speaks volume . Amazing .

[@alistair158]

So basically Romantics are like children

[@alistair158]

***** Not if you're a child.

[@logandavis4727]

you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven until you humble yourself like the little child.

[@DwightMoses]

***** Surely you did not mean to create a false dichotomy here? I'm sure you would agree these 'classifications' may be more of a continuum rather than the 'black and white' position suggested by the narrative.

[@purplepuppy2132]

No, they can be imaginative and creative and don't just accept the world as it is, they push for important changes

[@lucae6931]

Alistair Suter sooo what

[@dedoshucos]

*Wow! What a philosophy on life advice summed up in a **4:31** clip better than any big budget 2 part documentary. Best things in life come in small packages*

[@TheRealXartaX]

Holy crap, the blanket statements. So romantic = idiot Classical = fake Okay.

[@constitutionknwsbest]

TheRealXartaX 10% Romantic+ 90% Classical = Optimal Human. Problem sovled.