Are you Wasting Your Money? Paint Protection vs Ceramic Coating??

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[@megaman4201]

Didn't have a chance to watch the video yet but have to give my professional and personal experience POV. Just recently bought a 2005 Porsche Cayenne Turbo which had clear PPF installed from the factory on the front thirds of the fenders, hood, the complete headlights, and just about the complete front bumper, as well as several areas on the sides and rear of the vehicle. I have to say I was blown away at how well it protected the factory finish. 14 years later and 150k miles and when I remove the ppf the paint underneath is pristine, nearly perfect with the exception of two or three spots on the front bumper that were hit, not stone chips. Even the headlights are like brand new. I have over 30 years experience as a collision and refinish Tech and if I had a Corvette or a show car I wanted to drive on the street, I would DEFINITELY have to install PPF. TC Annapolis, MD

[@larsvolz4316]

One of the best advice pieces I've seen period. Thanks man. I have a shedload of friends with different views and experiences and all have strong opinions on right vs wrong, ceramic vs ppf, etc, etc. I've always been a fan of protecting the whole front end and high impact areas and then "drive it like I stole it" so it's refreshing to hear someone point out that it's not the end of the world if you don't have a 5 step pristine ceramic application done in a hyperbaric chamber. Thanks man! You've done a service to car lovers and "DRIVERS". Keep it up

[@ppeller3]

I like how you keep saying, there is no right or wrong way to protect your car! It's refreshing to hear that it's your car and do what YOU like! We all have different opinions/priorities. You can't please everyone so please yourself! I think i heard that in a song...🤔😉 Thanks Chuck for the refreshing point of view! Pete 🖐🖐🖐👋👍

[@yonathanandrewpardede4538]

so true

[@SSCustoms]

Love this, and yes it is so true there is no one "right way" to protect your vehicle.

[@sgtbaxman6720]

My 2006 Z06 had a PPC on the nose. As you mentioned Chuck, you could see the edge on it. It was horribly noticeable, but enough to bother me. Besides that, I had a concern that over time, the PPC might either discolor and/or harden, or that it may cause discoloration if the paint (due to its UV protection characteristics). So I ended removing the PPC, and then did a total car paint correction, followed by applying a ceramic coating -- all by myself, in the garage. Took a few days, but it was worth it.

[@davidramski394]

Great topic! I’m a crazed maniac when it comes to detailing my vette! I love doing it myself! It’s a daily driver and I use a paint sealant on mine!

[@PaulJersey]

Very informative video! When I bought my 2017 Vette last week I was surprised to learn when I went and looked at the car that the previous owner had a clear plastic wrap installed over the entire car. I can tell you from real world personal experience that I did not pay any extra because it was wrapped. I didn't give a funk if it was wrapped or not. The bottom line for me was the condition, factory options and miles. My criteria was that I wanted a '17 or '18 red Z51, under 10k miles with zero Car Fax issues in showroom condition. I had it narrowed down to 2 cars they were almost identical and about the same price. I did an extended test ride and bought the one that ran slightly better. I'm old school!

[@jimsollmi3600]

Chuck my first two vettes I hand waxed the hell out of them. The dealer saw the second one after I got finished and said he should have charged a higher price. My current vette I had ceramic coated. It always looks like I just waxed it, even when I know it needs a wash. I don't have as much time to wax as i used to so this is a great alternative and it gives added protection to the paint.

[@wcraig37]

I used both, PPF on high impact areas, ceramic everywhere else. I love it!

[@naifalsaeedan5413]

After 3-4 years you’ll see different in color PPF offers different protection than ceramic..

[@Istaypositive]

@@naifalsaeedan5413 which you recommend for a bmw 540 carbon black?

[@Nocturn614]

Chuck, you're right, that's 100% a personal preference. I chose Xpel for my Z06. The area that I was worried the most was the quarter panels. The Z06 will kick rocks at it and I felt and still feel, Xpel is the best protection for that. So far so good I guess. Now, you say you can always tell if a vette has that or not... Well, I dropped off my car in the morning to be Xpelled, and when I went back the next day to pick it up, I thought they didn't get to it. I had to touch the car to feel it. Not to mention that I'm extremely observant. So, maybe you haven't seen a really good Xpel job. ;-) Can't wait to see your new vette.

[@christopherbrady5906]

Great info Chuck! Thank you. Am working through this decision right now. I think I'm leaning toward the ceramic coating way at the moment.

[@LilyoftheValeyrising]

I did my own ceramic coating on my two classic Mercedes. ‘75 450SEL and ‘80 450SL. I had to do two stage compound buffing first because there was slight scratches on them. I am very happy with it! I maintain it with Mother’s CMX spray.

[@lfrank3508]

Loving the new forum!! Great topics things I’m interesting and I’m taking notes. Plans for my Corvette. 😁

[@yurdelali7890]

Thank you so much for a great video. You explained it so plain and simple with no silly childish joking around like the many other videos I’ve watched. 👍🏼

[@JohnMaffa]

I've got PPF on my Z06 and Ceramic on my Wife's car. I think I sleep better with the PPF, but the Ceramic makes it easier to wash and care for... Nice Job Chuck.. As always!

[@joemessman1]

Good video Chuck. If I remember correctly ceramic coating and paint protection film serve two different purposes? PPF is to protect against rock chips and ceramic coating is for helping the car stay cleaner longer, easier to clean, and acidic contaminants. Anyway, they are both good depending on what you want to do.

[@amoslyaround]

Thanks Chuck! Another perfectly timed informative video for me! My car isn't here yet but I've been wrestling with the PPF v Ceramic coating quandary and ultimately decided on the coating for the same reasons you outlined. I think it just looks better. Question: on the Black Mamba you used Ceramic Pro 9H and on Fearlis you went with Gyeon. Did you notice a difference, was one better than the other? I found a local guy who will put 9H on mine for a reasonable price. But, now there is this new ISM product you will be using, so the plot thickens! Thanks for all of the research you do, for sharing that with us as, well as for your honest opinions

[@douglasf1084]

Chuck, I had the ppf and then the ceramic. I have to say I cannot see the ppf at all and the shine is amazing. I think some of it may be the installer and the other is the quality of product.

[@Sully007_]

Hi Can you please update us how long did the ceramic coating last And what type of ceramic coating did you use

[@superameric8]

This is why I missed your channel. So glad your back. Great, great info!

[@terrysmith7236]

Chuck- love your new direction! Really enjoyed the vlog on the different protections for the paint.

[@randyrhodes7526]

You are so correct about customization, it means nothing to a dealership for trade in value and in some cases could lower value, enjoying the new format, and looking forward to your new ride, as always Thumbs Up soon as I click!!

[@mhazeyiii]

Glad you’re back Chuck!! Totally agree with all your points!

[@billweber276]

Chuck, very informative video and thanks for being unbiased towards any one approach. Again, good to have you back.

[@sccarguy]

I want to apply a coating to my wife’s car but I have back issues, do you have to finish it once you start or can you do different sections at a time without being able to see a difference between the different sections. Lest say over to or three weekends

[@michaelklobuchar4549]

Hi Chuck-thanks again for another very informative video. I like the idea of a one-step process-something I might attempt one day.

[@jimjimtiger]

Thanks Chuck for the comparisons. So far I'm just a wax guy with my Arctic White GS. Do you think there would be a dramatic difference in shine with a ceramic coating on arctic white vs a good wax?

[@jimflieler4133]

Just spent some down time applying ceramic coating on My C 7, Z06. Easy to apply, amazing results and the best shine one could ever expect.. In fact, I was so happy with the result, I even applied it to my Bowrider boat. The boat comes out of the water at the end of the day almost dry. 10/10 for our family

[@Negron21]

Another great and very informative vlog, thanks Chuck! Keep up the great work, we all appreciate the insight and info you share. 😉

[@bgzz5146]

Hey Chuck, you’ll love the ISM and bead maker combo. I did my truck with kamikaze miyabi as a base coat then did ISM and it looks great. It’s easy to do the maintenance washes too. ISm is great in exterior trims as well.

[@rat824]

Chuck - Thank you for your time, effort and info on all of this Corvette info. Because of you and guys like Rick Conti, I bought a CPO C7GS in OKC this year after much research. Already added some ACS bits and bobs and am now looking at PPF and coatings. Thanks again Chuck and Rick!! Great Corvette channels...highly recommended!

[@LoveJiuJitsu]

I can say it over and over again, but Chuck......It's great to have you back!!!!! Great vid!!!!

[@tjmoneybags]

Amen

[@robertmarshalljr8050]

Great vlog Chuck! I really appreciate all your input on Corvettes. I ordered my C7 Grand Sport 2LT Longbeach Red December 17th It was excepted January 9 today due to holidays now I'm waiting on build date.

[@nosefirst]

I forget what time it is whenever I start one of your vlogs. Nice to see you back.

[@bobbartlett3073]

Wonderful to see you back on the Channel Chuck! Congratulations on your order for a new Z06 with Manual!

[@WoodHughes]

Good analysis. I was raised about a half block from a guy who was on the Allison Brothers pit crew in Birmingham. I hung out there with the older boys and was a goffer while they worked on their cars. So, I got to work on and ride the old original Vette, the Shelby Cobra, and many others. Even helping in installing a flamethrower distributor on the Colba. I don’t remember the emphasis on the glossy paint and finish that seems to be hot these days. I’m on my second Z now. (A new 78 280Z and my current 04 350Z). Just installed custom upholstery and this week I’m getting it back from the body shop with a new crimson- metallic paint job. I’m still deciding which coating to use, but I really appreciate the vid!

[@arthurreece9155]

Ceramic coating on my 2015 Daytona sunrise orange looks amazing had it done after watching you do yours. Welcome back Chuck

[@CWChandler1968]

Thanks Chuck! Glad to have your content back.

[@husseinabduljabbar5708]

very true ad great talk chuck is a great guy glad to have a guy like him in the corvette comunnity before this video i didnot understand what ceramic coationg was i loved how you did break the subjects keep the videos out the this and thank you for your advises

[@blaw9571]

Now that you have own a few different corvettes what colors would you recommend and which colors would you stay away from and why?

[@jamesbroyles8703]

Great video Chuck....so glad you're back and your new Corvette is on order.

[@scram8188]

PPFed my 2017 Z06, used Sun Tek. Did entire front bumper, front fenders, hood, headlights, mirrors, windshield posts, front eight inches of roof, doors, rockers, side skirts, rear fenders and area of rear bumper on side of car. Basically everything except trunk deck and rear bumper area at rear of car, even had the door area at kick plate. Bought my car used in July 2019 with only 1595 miles on it, still had new car smell. No damage at all, felt like you said, I had to protect my investment. Felt the film would give me the best protection, total cost done professionally was $3945, plan on keeping this car for quiet a while. My first and last Vette and yes, I Love It.

[@krisi.2011]

I love ppf for me it's the only thing I feel that protects from sand, rocks etc i even done the head lights and love it so fogging or yellowing keeps it perfect ....

[@albertcooper631]

Hy Chuck i liked the ceramic coating u hd on the Black Mamba. That car always shined. A few coats of wax will make them shine also. I think its up to a individual great vlog keep them coming.

[@michaelmcmillen3178]

I used PPF for the front of my Corvette, not the hood, and ceramic on the remainder of car. Could not be happier with the two products, the PPF keeps the rock chips in Check and the ceramic coating is awesome. The detailer said us corvette guys take such good care of our cars, low mileage and garaged, the ceramic coating could last many years. Mine has been on my car two years and looks as good now as day one! A combination of the two really protects your investment!

[@hawkey100]

Just curious to know if you've used the Bigboi car dryer ? if so, what size ? Thanks

[@DallasStorm43]

I just got a new Camaro and ceramic coating was suggested to me. One was a 3 yr warranty and was using Adam's Ceramic Coating the other was a 5 yr warranty and was using CeramicPro and would be 300.00 more but she told me that it would change my color to a matte finish but would still bring out the metallic color in my car. Been on here researching this and not sure which one is better or why one would change my color to matte. Please help if you can! Thanks

[@glennjohnson1161]

Thanks for the info, Chuck. Think I'll go in the direction of PPF for the front of the car -- entire front, hood, fenders, mirrors and the rear quarters. My opinion, don't think the doors really need PPF, but I will do the ceramic coating of the entire car afterwards. Again, thanks for your insights Chuck.

[@ryanflannigan2426]

Anyone know if u can put a Halltech stinger cold air intake on a 2019 Z06 without doing any kind of tune? Hoping it doesn’t make the check engine light go on. Looking for a true bolt on to add a little HP without messing with anything else

[@plk7592]

great video, Chuck. Good to have you back. Thanks.

[@kevinryan3656]

Thanks for the info Chuck, been on the fence about clear bra or ceramic coating.

[@larrynewberry3500]

Thanks Chuck Great video. Did you mention how much you area installer charged to do ceramic coating?

[@rnblase]

Chuck I'm waiting on a Arctic white ZR1 I'm debating should I have that paint corrected before I Put a ceramic coating on it or would it not make any difference because it's white? Also I was wondering why you aren't going with 2 Coats of Miyabi and then one coat of ISM on your new ZO6?

[@monkeydoublebackflips240]

You really helped me out deciding between the two. Thanks a lot

[@balwindergill5486]

What did you decide?

[@jday1427]

Thanks Chuck, great video ,especially for new owners. Hey Chuck how about oil catch cans on C7’s. A lot on internet but it’s usually from guys selling catch cans. Are they really beneficial?

[@mrcryptz]

i have a black m4, got full xpel. This is the first time I had done ppf. Extremely happy with it, the biggest benefit being i can wipe the car down with no risk of swirl marks. The car is 4 years old and looks brand new still. I had ceramic coating on a black 435i and really in the end I didnt feel there was any benefit from a swirl protection standpoint. It was slightly easier to clean but minimal difference from waxing.

[@theeALister]

I completely agree. Obviously, it depends on the products in question but my best experience was with a full PPF (XPel in my case) with a ceramic coating put on top. The key thing about the coating is that it has to be layered and installed correctly. With these two in place, I feel you have the best protection from debris as well as fading/wear and tear caused by the elements.

[@NJ_Scat_Hemi_Orange]

How much did PPF cost for full wrap? I hear it's $7k+

[@mrcryptz]

@@NJ_Scat_Hemi_Orange 6700

[@NJ_Scat_Hemi_Orange]

@@mrcryptz that makes sense. I got an xpel full car wrap quote for $8400. They said normal sedan is $7200 but charge extra for the widebody charger

[@Sully007_]

@@theeALister did you use a specific type of ceramic coating on your ppf or any type can do the same work. I have ppf on the full body of my car but really want that shine and gloss so decided to go for the ceramic coating on top of it

[@automotiveantics]

This is a great video! I've always wondered about this topic. I have a 70 Nova and even tho the pain't isnt great I would like to protect it

[@ml9465]

I am getting my 2023 corvette 70th anniversary edition carbon flash metallic getting it completely covered with PPF, ceramic coating in and out, and ceramic tint. I went look at it today and the carbon flash metallic paint had a big pop to it and that was in the shop. I can imagine how it will look in the sun.

[@brandono.1823]

I was too scared to try and correct my paint before ceramic coating. Just dropped it off Saturday to have a professional to correct the paint and apply the ceramic coating. Thanks for your commentary!

[@20ISH-TRUCKDRIVER]

Brandon O. How much did it cost please ?

[@michaelkelly9861]

Chuck, thank you for this .. 👍🏾 I was thinking about doing this and had ? Welcome back 😎Just joined the Chanel Keep Up the Great Work!! M.L.Kelly Sr. Raleigh NC

[@BrinkofSpeed]

Great video Chuck as always! Thank you for the excellent information! 😊

[@barynovacek5982]

I really like where your going with these. I will be looking to go to that ISM on my next car.

[@bobbernosky9935]

Will my C6 Gm battery protection work on a C7 ?

[@sanbrown7900]

WOW! Really good info. Detailed enough for me to understand the differences, the pricing, length of coverage and clean-up. Not sure if I will have anything applied to my new SUV - but information helps. Thank you so much.

[@dillonphillips313]

This video was very helpful. You've convinced me ceramic coating is the way to go.

[@alphabravo5266]

which is better? thank you

[@duranopaulo]

What's the easiest way to strip wax? And do the ceramic after the process.

[@ajjax89]

Great info. I know in my insurance. You can add updates/ added features to your car and theyll cover the damages

[@alexolga11]

hi i ordered sprinter van for my work i do carpet. I will get it in april, what will be best for me to protect against corrosion and protect paint, I live in Minnesota, thanks

[@markburns9068]

Good work again Chuck. Thanks!

[@mieszkooracz7370]

Finally I just have heard some resonable opinion. Thank you sir.

[@stevegreer1963]

I use a ceramic on my C7, but I prefer a “ceramic light” product like CanCoat or TAC Systems Moonlight. I find the appearance and behavior to be identical to a full blown ceramic. The difference is the longevity of its durability. With a ceramic light, I can expect up to 9-12 months of protection. I am the kind of guy who likes to put a polisher to my Stingray on a yearly basis using an ultra fine polish like Menzerna 3800. Using a ceramic light gives me the opportunity to jewel the paint every spring, just about the time when the coating needs to be reapplied. If I used a full blown ceramic coating, it lasts too long for my liking and hinders my ability to polish more often.

[@JoalHarding]

Super video! Went for quote today at ‘ceramic pros’ today for my Model Y and man is it pricey! Thank you for all this great information! 😊

[@Normalhowaboutyou]

Chuck, I am buying a Pontiac Vibe GT 2009 looks great> need to protect entire outside with good ceramic coating and front and rear bumpers ,from bad parkers and protection in areas near doors and hatch as family is a bit rough on my cars . any tips, anyone would be appreciated

[@brettbarnett3479]

Chuck great to have you back buddy! Can’t wait to see your new Z06 when it arrives. I’m really on the fence myself I have 2012 Grand Sport but have a C7 Z06 calling my name!!

[@krisi.2011]

Me too I have c6 z06 and I am really waiting a c7 z06 ....

[@johnholeman8127]

Great video chuck. Thanks for the ideas. Everything I do and clean I feel I should do the work myself Newbie John

[@markmeador375]

Hi, what do you know about System X Pro Ceramic Coating (Diamond)? The website says protecting for the lifetime of a new car. Professionally installed only.

[@Liketogofast]

Chuck - Thanks for another great vlog. Looking forward to the DIY vlog coating the new Z06. So you are replacing your corvette...what about your wife’s? A C8?

[@rubenflores3291]

Can you put the 2 pin stripes down the car and still add ceramic?

[@JustinTheJT]

Chuck, We have not heard back from you since you order video. Have you got your Corvette yet?

[@lovelife176]

Thank goodness you are back.

[@matthayward3437]

Another awesome video Chuck, you are the best

[@duaneclark3539]

I put the Gyeon Syncro on my ZO6 and PPF on the bumper, mirrors and door coves. On my Zr1 I did PPF A pillars forward and mirrors going to do Gyeon on the whole car now when I get a free weekend soon. I love the ceramic coat it makes the paint look like glass no wax can get to that shine, that I have found., As for the PPF I am like you don't really like the look but it does help with the small rocks. I have never seen a PPF job that you could not tell always a small bubble or two or three in there and at least a couple pieces of dust under it somewhere just no way around it but I must say I got about as good a job on my Zr1 as you can get in Alabama Tennessee area anyway great topic Chuck see you next vlog.

[@LordPagliarello]

So happy I found this video. Very informative.

[@robertjakicic5878]

Weather is tough on a car anymore but like you said Chuck cars cost so much money you want to protect your investment and also make it look outstanding.

[@ray6.488]

Where can u buy ppf the big ones at ?

[@quatro2732]

so putting PPF make your car not shiny is that correct?

[@skybox51]

I've done both over the years. For me, I go through cars so quickly I figured I'm just protecting the car for the next guy. So now just wash it and call it a day.

[@calisav223]

How many bottles of that ISM does it take? Will 1 cover the whole car?

[@francinelamontagne1616]

Which one is better for protecting your vehicle from scratches and chips?

[@hanjunghyun1]

Great comparison review. Thank you.

[@ronnieowenssr.1419]

Hey chuck yes glad you back

[@beans4491]

What a fantastic video.....i was researching what to do with my bike paint work. Kind regards.

[@erickonphoenix]

You always say what I think way better than I would say it. Nice channel.

[@davidtan8677]

Hi! I am getting my new white car and wondering if I should go for PPF or Ceramic coating. Heard that PPF will turn yellowish after 2-3 years. May I have some advice which should I go for? Thanks

[@RockAgario]

I got the best Paint protection kit at Opus Premium Films. Go check out their website they make the best XPEL kits you can buy.

[@deanporostovsky9547]

GT #2 = Awesome! Great job, Chuck!

[@yellowcourier]

Hey Chuck, a bit off topic but do you plan on only doing green screen vids or will you have in-garage and real world vids going forward?

[@CARTERCUSTOMS1]

GREAT VIDEO CHUCK AND HAVE A BLESSED WEEK

[@MJJCvideo]

Hello@Corvettes, would you like to review the new MJJC foam cannon pro? Thanks.

[@LoveJiuJitsu]

First off, happy belated 21st Birthday Chuck!!!!! Second, wasn't the build date the 21st? Looking forward to an update :)

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wanna keep the paint ceramic coat , if you like wraps alot do ppf or keep a wrap longer ceramic it but ppf wont stick to ceramic coat