Argentina Looking to Buy Pakistan JF-17 Fighters

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@lawrenceweston922
@lawrenceweston922 3 жыл бұрын
Just imagine if the US didn’t block F-16 sales to Pakistan in the 90s, the JF-17 wouldn’t have even been a thing today!!
@willlasdf123
@willlasdf123 3 жыл бұрын
Love the non-NATO/Russia/China A&D coverage on this channel even if it doesn't get the views of the other content. Keep it up!!!
@Klliansimabras
@Klliansimabras 3 жыл бұрын
Argentina denied claim of buying JF-17.
@yeoungshia6206
@yeoungshia6206 3 жыл бұрын
@@Klliansimabras That's because Britain was trying so hard to block the deal, so Argentina is doing it low-key. In fact the 2022 budge of Argentina still contains a plan of purchasing 12 JF-17s
@albertodiaz2990
@albertodiaz2990 3 жыл бұрын
JF 17 Blok 3, la mejor adquisición para la Fuerza Aérea Argentina 🇦🇷🇦🇷👍
@ryanthompson5761
@ryanthompson5761 3 жыл бұрын
Fly it over the falklands see them accidently fall out of the sky via missile.
@legendahmad8548
@legendahmad8548 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanthompson5761 hahaahaah joker
@khalid1616
@khalid1616 3 жыл бұрын
JF 17 are the best fighters at the moment, Indians know their power during a fight on 19th February 2019.
@MrBao-yt7bk
@MrBao-yt7bk 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanthompson5761 Some Argie: * breathes * Brits: *FALKLANDS FALKLANDS, ITS ALL ABOUT THE FALKLANDS.*
@erniesamoajr1338
@erniesamoajr1338 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanthompson5761 they may fall on top of the Sheffield, the Ardent, the Coventry, the Antelope...
@deanwood1338
@deanwood1338 3 жыл бұрын
Not many other options for Argentina. As the British have the power to veto pretty much any other western aircraft because they make parts for most of them.
@sali1023
@sali1023 3 жыл бұрын
jf17 is a budget friendly 5th gen aircraft with countless upgrades . you can buy this or spend 5x - 10x more $$ on the next best alternative, all to acheive the same goals . its much sensible to buy this for developing counties. this is why a bunch of other countries also use these rather than wasting $$ on western built jets
@deanwood1338
@deanwood1338 3 жыл бұрын
@@sali1023 no they buy the jf17 coz they can’t afford or are not allowed to buy western jets. It is certainly not a 5th generation jet at all 🤣🤦‍♂️ like seriously not even close.
@keysersoze3427
@keysersoze3427 3 жыл бұрын
@@deanwood1338 They have been offered the Kfir blk 60 and F16 s from America. The Kfir deal was scuppered due to politics and they refused the F16 deal for some reason.
@bhavinkhambhayata
@bhavinkhambhayata 3 жыл бұрын
@@deanwood1338 I can't believe he said 5th Gen aircraft. Tejas Mk.1 might be an option but, Martin Baker is there 😂
@deanwood1338
@deanwood1338 3 жыл бұрын
@@keysersoze3427 the kfir is not a newly designed aircraft by any stretch, you can modernise it as much as you like but then it’s just compromise on top of compromise, and I believe the f16s were 2nd hand ones with not the greatest of of airframe life left in them… my point still stands.
@jonathanyang6230
@jonathanyang6230 3 жыл бұрын
if made well, the block 3 jf-17s seem pretty decent
@geodkyt
@geodkyt 3 жыл бұрын
Probably 80% as good as a 20 year old F-16, for about half the price. Not necessarily a bad tradeoff, as great fighters you can't afford to buy enough of aren't as good as "good enough" fighters you can buy in quantity. Even if only buying a single squadron's worth.
@ryanthompson5761
@ryanthompson5761 3 жыл бұрын
@Jihadi Pundit Ahh do i smell a terrorist lover on youtube??
@zidi_gamer7083
@zidi_gamer7083 3 жыл бұрын
@Jihadi Pundit hahah love from Pakistan
@geodkyt
@geodkyt 3 жыл бұрын
@pm No, not really. Not as capable as a 20 year old F-16 airframe that has been maintained well, much less current blocks. Pakistan isn't using them to replace their F-16s, they're using them to replace their obsolescence Mirages, Chinese copies of the MiG-21 and a Chinese derivative of the MiG-19. The JF-17 also has the advantage (to Pakistan) of not being subject to use limits imposed contractually by the US on how they can utilize their F-16s. But it is no where near "better than" the F-16. It *compliments* the F-16, doing *almost* as good as the older F-16s, but at half the cost. That's a good tradefoff for a country like Pakistan (or Argentina) to make, but it is still a tradeoff of capability versus cost.
@infochase6656
@infochase6656 3 жыл бұрын
@@geodkyt Block 3 has the capability to compete against the latest F16s.
@alteclansing2638
@alteclansing2638 3 жыл бұрын
JF-17 is best when it comes to Bang for the Buck. No other aircraft gives long-range Air to air missiles and Supersonic Antiship missiles for this Price. Plus it has a reduced radar crosssection due to its advanced design unlike other jets flying in Argentina's neighbourhood.
@nucleargandhi101
@nucleargandhi101 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao. It has very very high Radar cross section. Also- Argentina has rejected the media claims. It says it's not buying JF17.
@leonardodevinci1251
@leonardodevinci1251 3 жыл бұрын
@@nucleargandhi101 who believes Indian media? The last time I check they claimed Pakistan attacked panshjr while showing a video game footage. They are propaganda machines
@shazainbaloch2538
@shazainbaloch2538 3 жыл бұрын
We know what india's pain is Actually. Because two of their jets were shot down by JF-17 in 27th February Stand off 🤣😜🤣🐐🇮🇳
@8080408729a
@8080408729a 3 жыл бұрын
& yet... No one is buying them apart of pakistan😂😂😂😂
@8080408729a
@8080408729a 3 жыл бұрын
@@shazainbaloch2538 saste nashe karna chod do mohotarma.... Ek toah bhikari mulq he tumhara... PM ko 2 takke ki izzat nahi... Awam ghaas kharkar ji rahi he...taliban ladikoyon ki izzat lut raha he aur aap ho ki india se barabari karne nikli😂😂😂.... Indian jets shoot down karna toah door ki baat... Pata chala kal aapke qureshi saab ne bol dilya ki "jf-17 airborn nahi ho sakte in case of IAF strike as PAF cant even afford fuel😂😂😂"
@jimlegansjr9986
@jimlegansjr9986 3 жыл бұрын
That's a good-looking airplane!
@shazainbaloch2538
@shazainbaloch2538 3 жыл бұрын
That's Operational in PAF kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWbSnH2tfdCrnpo kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y36yg6xtg7WnbqM
@emperorclaudias3316
@emperorclaudias3316 3 жыл бұрын
I beat my meat to it .
@shazainbaloch2538
@shazainbaloch2538 3 жыл бұрын
@🗣️🗣️ISLAM 😜😜😜I know how many Tejas used in Indian Airforce & Russian Airforce 😝🤣😝🤣but JF 17 Pride of Pakistan & Shot down 2 Indian migs its a Fact
@pranshuchauhan6379
@pranshuchauhan6379 3 жыл бұрын
@@shazainbaloch2538lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣, Pakistan fired AMRAAM missiles to counter Indian Jets at that day but your so called indigenous JF17 Junker uses Chinese Missiles so who fired AMRAAM's ?? Now you are saying that Pakistan shot Indian's 2 jets, so where is our 2nd pilot?? According to your DGISPR pakistan arrested 2indian pilots, so where is our 2nd pilot??? Answer for the above question is that your army captured your Pilot as Indian Pilot 🤣🤣🤣🤣 or maarne ke baad pta cla ye tou apna hi bnda tha 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 lol jokers Army 🤣🤣🤣
@labeedimrankhan9205
@labeedimrankhan9205 3 жыл бұрын
@@pranshuchauhan6379 Two pilots because your Air chief showed second blown missile fired by F 16 himself, while that hero Abhinandan mig had still R 73 attached to it when it was recovered and according you Air chief it was Abhinandan’s mig’s R 73 that downed F 16, he downed F 16 without even firing or else someone is lying
@Matt_from_Florida
@Matt_from_Florida 3 жыл бұрын
Venezuela's main combat aircraft is the Sukhoi Su-30, so Argentina wouldn't be the first South American country to veer away from the U.S.
@EdNashsMilitaryMatters
@EdNashsMilitaryMatters 3 жыл бұрын
Very true! Though Venezuala is suffering for it.
@ottovonbismarck2443
@ottovonbismarck2443 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdNashsMilitaryMatters That's usually what happens if you don't want to be a US colony.
@rougarou3716
@rougarou3716 3 жыл бұрын
Peru also has a handful of Russian aircraft.
@Matt_from_Florida
@Matt_from_Florida 3 жыл бұрын
@@rougarou3716 Wow, I had no idea. France, Russia, and now they're even looking at Korea (a questionable choice, if they want to remain outside the U.S. orbit). I think they realize just how much U.S. military sales happen in league with the *CURRENT* U.S. policy/agenda, while other nation's sales are governed almost entirely by profit motives!
@theus663
@theus663 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdNashsMilitaryMatters Peru also operates Mig-29 without problems with the US.
@Puzzoozoo
@Puzzoozoo 3 жыл бұрын
Why must everything need America's approval, sovereign countries should just give the US administration the finger, and do what is best for that countries interests.
@MD_Gaming07964
@MD_Gaming07964 3 жыл бұрын
Right sir
@artistk9817
@artistk9817 3 жыл бұрын
blessing in disguise! Jf17 is excellent choice
@gooseblur2609
@gooseblur2609 3 жыл бұрын
Joke of the century 😂
@Aiza45
@Aiza45 3 жыл бұрын
@@gooseblur2609 lol - the ZtreetPoopers are acting hilariously at this news.
@fungallery360
@fungallery360 3 жыл бұрын
JF17 killing machine ... And PL 15 ... Awesome
@jainampunamiya7064
@jainampunamiya7064 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aiza45 fake news🤣 check out the latest update lol. Argentina has denied of any such deal made😂😂😂
@Aiza45
@Aiza45 3 жыл бұрын
@@jainampunamiya7064 lol- how desperate u ShtreetPoopers are. Next u will say that Burma and Nigeria didn't buy JF17 either. In any case, atleast there is a possibility for JF17 sale vs Samosa, which can only be used to stick it on ur💩hole and the yell, We Are the PooperPower.🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍👍
@gorglun
@gorglun 3 жыл бұрын
At least they're buying the Block III version which has AESA radar.
@arminius6506
@arminius6506 3 жыл бұрын
@linkzable Jf-17 won't come with PL-15. The only foreign country who may get their hands over pl-15 is Pakistan.
@shazainbaloch2538
@shazainbaloch2538 3 жыл бұрын
JF 17 Thunder results Successfully Shot 2 mig kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWbSnH2tfdCrnpo kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y36yg6xtg7WnbqM
@fernarias
@fernarias 3 жыл бұрын
@linkzable All US f16s are getting updated and this includes new apg-83 easa radar. All new orders for f16s since 2007 include the new apg-80 easa radar. So yes, the f16 has modern radar.
@ahafeel
@ahafeel 3 жыл бұрын
The Indians would be keeping an eye on this development too. Their Tejas aircraft despite all the trumpeting on social media fora is inferior to the JF17. Interesting times ahead Ed.
@rajatdani619
@rajatdani619 3 жыл бұрын
Tejas is not inferior to Chinese Xiaoling 1, Tejas mk1A will be 2Step ahead of JF17 block3. With Indian missile Astra and Indian Radar uttam etc.
@ahafeel
@ahafeel 3 жыл бұрын
@@rajatdani619 what is the status of the Kaveri engine?
@deanwood1338
@deanwood1338 3 жыл бұрын
@@rajatdani619 maybe in 10 years it will be with the mark2 version but not current production models
@rajatdani619
@rajatdani619 3 жыл бұрын
@@deanwood1338 Bro Tejas mk1A is ready, which is offered to Malaysia as well it is far better then Xiaoling 1 block3.
@rajatdani619
@rajatdani619 3 жыл бұрын
@@ahafeel It's under development.. And Htfe(Hindustan turbofan engine) is ready for production. Kaveri's Low thrust engine (HTSE) will be ready soon will be integrated on Ghatak ucav platform. Which missile or sensor of Xiaoling is made by pakistan? Except paint.
@Ghost0fPakistan
@Ghost0fPakistan 3 жыл бұрын
JF17 is a decent plane for a country like Argentina, a fourth generation Light fighter which is cheap, technologically advanced and easy to maintain.
@learn_networking1
@learn_networking1 3 жыл бұрын
It's not 4..... JF 17 block 3 would be way better than any other 4 Gen aircraft... It's 4 ++
@davesherry5384
@davesherry5384 2 жыл бұрын
They will make EXCELENT manned target drones for the Tornado. Hardly fair but there we are.
@Ghost0fPakistan
@Ghost0fPakistan 2 жыл бұрын
@@davesherry5384 was this supposed to be a joke? Torandoes are already retired from British service 😂 Jeffs can fire the PL-15s and SD-10s. More than enough to yeet any jet out of the sky lol.
@swordwielder2854
@swordwielder2854 2 жыл бұрын
@@davesherry5384 I love it when brits make a joke.
@studentaviator3756
@studentaviator3756 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion we where foolish to block the korean fa 50. It was just a a supersonic trainer. That utilised British parts. Letting the Argentines have this aircraft would of hampered their ability and given us power over their selected aircraft.
@dragonstormdipro1013
@dragonstormdipro1013 3 жыл бұрын
Politicians and media doesn’t understand that
@studentaviator3756
@studentaviator3756 3 жыл бұрын
@@dragonstormdipro1013 Unfortunately so
@hydorah
@hydorah 3 жыл бұрын
I think you're right it would be a good idea to be on the inside of helping the Argentinians to defend themselves in their region and to be able to undo them easily if anybody got some Junta style ideas of fatal glory
@studentaviator3756
@studentaviator3756 3 жыл бұрын
@@hydorah Yes knowing the capabilities of their aircraft and its backdoors would of been very useful. There is also the fact that Argentina has a right to defend herself. Demoralising and humiliating a former enemy can be as dangerous as being too relaxed and letting her re-arm. For clarification I think we have been very reasonable with the Argentines and the Argentine government is mostly responsible for any tension, but its still important to see it from your adversaries perspective.
@deanwood1338
@deanwood1338 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the FA 50 is better than we all think that’s why they blocked it…. Or they done it just be dicks?
@AdurianJ
@AdurianJ 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best choice open to the Argentinians as all western jets use British components.
@nabeelahmedkhanofficial
@nabeelahmedkhanofficial 3 жыл бұрын
UK just shot in its foot by blocking Argentina which eventually made Argentina buy JF-17 thunder Block 3 which is a decent yet deadly fighter jet for sure.
@kh7736
@kh7736 3 жыл бұрын
No match for typhoon either way
@Siddaslayer25
@Siddaslayer25 2 жыл бұрын
@@kh7736 yeah when that pl-10 tracks your typhoon 😂
@wasimiqbal8211
@wasimiqbal8211 3 жыл бұрын
JF 17 is Super aircraft and Great than others
@uzairafzal4472
@uzairafzal4472 3 жыл бұрын
@🗣️🗣️ISLAM no matter ... it can still fuck Indian jets easily
@brianjones5002
@brianjones5002 3 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid I can't afford one Nice aircraft though.
@shazainbaloch2538
@shazainbaloch2538 3 жыл бұрын
The results of JF 17 2 migs shot by JF 17. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWbSnH2tfdCrnpo kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y36yg6xtg7WnbqM
@jagga9
@jagga9 3 жыл бұрын
JF-17 with air to air missiles like PL15 are not less deadly as compare to any other modern fighter jet
@_hunterz_
@_hunterz_ 3 жыл бұрын
Love Argentina from Pakistan 🇵🇰🇦🇷
@duanabsa9993
@duanabsa9993 3 жыл бұрын
A slap in the face for HAL Tejas and proponents. Bye bye Tejas, sorry you're forever plagued with problems and very unsellable.
@rasanasarangi3772
@rasanasarangi3772 3 жыл бұрын
Pfft India didn’t even tejas to them 😂 Clearly shows how much propaganda is going on in pak.
@homeopathic_treatments
@homeopathic_treatments 3 жыл бұрын
@@rasanasarangi3772 India didn't even select the Tejas for their own air force .. imagine the lies and propaganda going on in Indian media or should I say The Goddy media 🤣🤣🤣
@rasanasarangi3772
@rasanasarangi3772 3 жыл бұрын
@@homeopathic_treatments 😆 2 squadrons of tejas are already raised and 🤣🤣 83 tejas mk 1A is ordered and you are saying that Air Force didn’t took it 😆. Advice: Don’t stay in cave. Thanks for contacting the future I hope you are enjoying in 19990s. 😂😂🤣🤣Isn’t ironic that someone who is saying that you are lying but then in reality is true 😆
@homeopathic_treatments
@homeopathic_treatments 3 жыл бұрын
@@rasanasarangi3772 2 squadrons of Tejas according to arnab ghoswami 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 just like killing 350 terrorists in balakot and shooting down an f16 by abhitantan 🤣🤣🤣🤣 we have contacted the future but you are still living in Bollywood 🤣🤣🤣 I also heard that isi agents were in Kabul hotel 5th floor , by arnab ghoswami but out side the Bollywood world it had only two floors 🤣🤣🤣🤣 just like destroying our trees were 350 terrorists but outside the Bollywood world only a crow was killed alon the trees ..😂😂😂😂 just like claiming to shoot down an f16 turned out to be one of your own mi17 helicopter but , outside the the Bollywood world 🤣🤣🤣🤣 it took more then 30 years to produce an aircraft which is not even appreciated by Indian navy ... Even if Indian pathetic air force inducted Tejas ... It took them more than 30 years and still they know what will happen to them .... You know ... " The tea is fantastic " 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@rasanasarangi3772
@rasanasarangi3772 3 жыл бұрын
@@homeopathic_treatments “ Still living in Bollywood” really 😂 🤣🤣 better to save your ass by putting this. Look bud, I suggest you that leave your cave and come to light. Speaking of 350 terrorists, your generals know very why they stop balakot airspace for days because in order hide the facts and evidence but however you couldn’t fool the satellites and please educate yourself 🤣🤣 😆 Rafale typhoon and f 22 took many years of development but that doesn’t mean it’s pathetic, you really don’t know anything about aviation. In 1971 war, you sunk your naval ship in daylight and that to close range you thought you sunk Indian ship but then turn out you sunk your own ship 😂😂 What else oh yes in Soviet Afghan war you destroyed your own f 16 in close range because of extreme high hope. Ever of IFF they don’t work properly in all Air Forces it happens only in fog of war so what’s the big deal with that. Oh btw pns ghazai sub is still under the Bay of Bengal. 😆. Second pilot is missing since 2019 and taliban already threatening pak. Cost of tea: 93000 pak soldiers surrender , f 16 and bajwa fear 😆 Ask bajwa whether his pant is drying or still wet after so much of fear
@Zjofficial007
@Zjofficial007 3 жыл бұрын
Jf17 thunder excellent option for Argentina Because jf17 thunder is best aircraft in the world and jf17 thunder my favorite aircraft specially jf17 thunder disgn is superb and killer look 👌 Congratulations Argentina and Argentina peoples
@keysersoze3427
@keysersoze3427 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah best in the world.....apart from the F22, F35 ,Gripen Rafale and so on.....Don't be silly. The JF17 is a decent aircraft but know its limitations
@Zjofficial007
@Zjofficial007 3 жыл бұрын
@@keysersoze3427 you don't be silly Maybe you don't know about jf17 thunder this aircraft shoot two indian aircraft mirage and sukhoi if you don't know then you go check and research on jf17 thunder
@TheYak_Traveller
@TheYak_Traveller 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zjofficial007 u r a liar so as ur PM Taliban khan.shame on u.
@keysersoze3427
@keysersoze3427 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zjofficial007 I already have. A mig21 was definitely shot down by an F16. The SU30 is believed to have been shot down by an F16 (According to PAF denied by IAF) and a Indian SAR helicopter was shot down by panicky IAF SAM operators. I like the JF17 but I am not going to make stuff up for it. The JF17 is combat proven by the CAS missions it runs.
@Zjofficial007
@Zjofficial007 3 жыл бұрын
@@keysersoze3427 maybe you're indian 🤔 Well I know you indian only tell a lie and my son Pakistan have prove but you don't have don't tell a lie
@Hiznogood
@Hiznogood 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if France might be willing to sell them some Rafaels instead? It might depend how pissed of they got from the AUSUK debacle!
@noodles169
@noodles169 3 жыл бұрын
Naaah. They wouldn't want to see their jets get humiliated, by the typhoon and f35
@keysersoze3427
@keysersoze3427 3 жыл бұрын
Also the French like money and the risk of default is high...
@jattjamesbond1122
@jattjamesbond1122 3 жыл бұрын
Nope argentina is not a rich country the won't buy rafale
@kannan159
@kannan159 3 жыл бұрын
The budget is rly low that's why Chinese jf17 was selected
@keysersoze3427
@keysersoze3427 3 жыл бұрын
@@kannan159 The cost of the Kfirs was less £300 million but Argentine politics scuppered that deal.
@MikoyanGurevichMiG21
@MikoyanGurevichMiG21 3 жыл бұрын
The Jeff essentially feels like my spiritual successor.
@zunairali1492
@zunairali1492 3 жыл бұрын
Actually it's a Mish mash or mig21, f16, f18
@aamerjamal
@aamerjamal 3 жыл бұрын
@@zunairali1492 mig21 f20 f16 f18 and f35s dsi
@jackaut9858
@jackaut9858 3 жыл бұрын
its not argentinas fault they were being bullied and left alone for a long time so now its their right to buy new planes
@azurga
@azurga 3 жыл бұрын
Invading the Falklands and continuing to agitate over the issue is "being bullied"? They should have made their peace with the UK instead of being belligerent.
@dizzyWLRD
@dizzyWLRD 2 жыл бұрын
Its entirely their fault
@liamo5448
@liamo5448 2 жыл бұрын
To the looks of it Argentina isn't planning on integrating the jf 17 (or any other new jet fight aircraft) properly for another 7-10 years as the argentine air force announced that there rebuilding the fleet of a4Ars to 12 combat airframes and once that number is met to 18 combat airframes over the next 1-1.5 years The way I look at it Argentina only really wants a plane to counter Chilean early f16s as the a4s has good capabilities over most other countries that share a land border with Argentina (Bolivia, Uruguay, Paraguay as well as Chilean air forces f5 tigers and c101 jets ) and since argentine isn't in a hurry to go to war with Chile or UK or brazil neither are they in a hurry to get the jf 17
@Camilo_Z
@Camilo_Z Жыл бұрын
@@liamo5448 Brazil is almost a ally to argentina rn. No rivarly/ disputes.
@PrincessZoee
@PrincessZoee 3 жыл бұрын
4.6 generation jet and cost effective. JF 17 is equipped with AESA radar , RD 93MA engine , HMD , world longest lethal Beyond Visual Range Missiles PL 15 . It can deliver nuclear weapons.
@immad9706
@immad9706 3 жыл бұрын
Bro RD-93 has been replaced by a new engine from Chengdu..... which gives it more thrust than Block 1 & 2
@PrincessZoee
@PrincessZoee 3 жыл бұрын
@@immad9706 the engine is not confirmed yet. But I think jf 17 block 3 will have new version of RD 93, i.e . RD 93 MA Russian engine .
@rainbowvideos134
@rainbowvideos134 3 жыл бұрын
PL range is maximum 145 km. Chinese has confirmed it
@immad9706
@immad9706 3 жыл бұрын
@@PrincessZoee Both choices are on the table
@johnparrish9215
@johnparrish9215 3 жыл бұрын
I did not realize until now just how much the JF-17 looks like the F-20 Tigershark. Well if your going to be inspired by a design the Tigershark is a good one.
@yes_head
@yes_head 3 жыл бұрын
Take JF-17 and F-20 Tigershark out of that first sentence and you have pretty much every Chinese aircraft design.
@trauko1388
@trauko1388 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, "inspired"... XD
@johnparrish9215
@johnparrish9215 3 жыл бұрын
@@trauko1388 I was trying to be nice...lol
@trauko1388
@trauko1388 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnparrish9215 Yeah, but have you noticed that, every time a US design is not picked for production... a few years later some other country unveils a very similiar design?
@kyphe.
@kyphe. 3 жыл бұрын
If the F20 had a baby with an f16
@Spartan-jg4bf
@Spartan-jg4bf 3 жыл бұрын
They will make good target practice for British Typhoons 💥💥💥
@Camilo_Z
@Camilo_Z Жыл бұрын
least patriotic briton / least biased anglo speaker (this is a joke lol.)
@alphasubscription6741
@alphasubscription6741 3 жыл бұрын
Love from Pakistan. Hope you get a full squadron
@zunairali1492
@zunairali1492 3 жыл бұрын
@Warren Moon it's OK man time changes the situations
@namaan123
@namaan123 3 жыл бұрын
@Warren Moon sure thing “Warren”
@bjoernschneider7762
@bjoernschneider7762 3 жыл бұрын
It's going on since 2013. They even wanted to call it the Pulqui III
@MrBao-yt7bk
@MrBao-yt7bk 3 жыл бұрын
They would've called it the Pulqui III if they had gotten the liscense to produce it themselves. But like all ambitious Argentine plans, they fell through
@benwilson6145
@benwilson6145 3 жыл бұрын
You do not need to love politics, you just need to accept that like birth, taxes and death its part of life.
@gusgone4527
@gusgone4527 3 жыл бұрын
Part that cannot be ignored, lest the worst actually happen.
@imranemi6147
@imranemi6147 3 жыл бұрын
Jf 17 block 3 is 4 plus generation jet and will be more amazing is in dog fight. Multi role fighter jet with amazing features, .... Jf 17 block 2 jets have been proved their skills...
@BV-fr8bf
@BV-fr8bf 3 жыл бұрын
What? Strangling someone into absolute submission eventually puts you at greater risk later, when they seek your enemies help!
@matiasbarreiro3882
@matiasbarreiro3882 3 жыл бұрын
such a true
@lawrenceweston922
@lawrenceweston922 3 жыл бұрын
This is EXACTLY what led to Pakistan developing the JF-17, they paid the US for 28 F-16s; the US took the money, sanctioned Pakistan and charged Pakistan rent for storing the F-16s …. Thus Pakistan began the JF-17 programme with China, after Pakistan, Myanmar & Nigeria … Argentina will be the 4th user with Malaysia and Azerbaijan also considering purchasing it.
@jjayyoung7335
@jjayyoung7335 3 жыл бұрын
That type strangling situation seemed to have a great deal of what caused WWII to start. If Germany hadn’t gotten so screwed, like in particular their economy strangled with impossible reparation debts by America, Briton and company a character like Adolf Hitler would likely never have gotten elected
@Regolith86
@Regolith86 3 жыл бұрын
@@lawrenceweston922 First off, the US delivered the majority of the contracted aircraft. Second, part of the contract was that Pakistan was to suspend any attempts to acquire nuclear weapons. They did anyway, hence the arms embargo and the cancellation of the rest of the contract. Not sure exactly what Pakistan thought was going to happen.
@lawrenceweston922
@lawrenceweston922 3 жыл бұрын
@@Regolith86 … Remind me never to do business with you or your kin, but I was raised on the principle that if you take someone’s money to provide a good or a service .. You either provide that good or service, or you pay the money back. The fact that you’re here defending what both Bill Clinton and George W. Bush both categorized as unjust … speaks volumes about your character. By the way there was nothing in the contract about suspending their nukes, and the “majority of F-16s” was a separate contract in the early 80s.
@sh7de553
@sh7de553 3 жыл бұрын
I bet there's some special credit facility from the Chinese that goes along with that order.
@keysersoze3427
@keysersoze3427 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have heard they have an agreement for goods such as beef and similar for when money is not available.
@trauko1388
@trauko1388 3 жыл бұрын
They already had a Chinese military base in Argentina, they likely pulled down their trousers for this one...
@gusgone4527
@gusgone4527 3 жыл бұрын
Of that you can be sure. There will also be Confucius Cultural Centres springing up everywhere. Huge financial support for far left wing extremist student groups too. ANTIFA, BLM and other Marxist Maoist groups will cause havoc. will see an attempt to take the Falklands by forces, as a step towards chaos and communist revolution. That's what socialists/communists have done all over the world. They make no secret of it.
@mattheweagles5123
@mattheweagles5123 3 жыл бұрын
Which country doesn't offer export credit guarantees with those sorts of orders?
@Farweasel
@Farweasel 3 жыл бұрын
Plus a free goat for ritual sacrifice from Islamabad's premia supplier, as used by the best PIA aerospace technicians.
@shahbazghouri5063
@shahbazghouri5063 3 жыл бұрын
🇵🇰 ❤ 🇦🇷
@casinodelonge
@casinodelonge 3 жыл бұрын
The French have some subs going cheap too, and with the Jeff taking chinese built ordnance, they can simply order spares on Wish.
@ryanthompson5761
@ryanthompson5761 3 жыл бұрын
Cheap ohh you mean 8 billion. And Argentina with subs with what happened?? Are you high??
@MMG008
@MMG008 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Very expensive subs that haven’t been built yet.
@alessiodecarolis
@alessiodecarolis 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps they should employ their money for most useful means, given how their armed forces destroyed the country they were intended to protect!☹️
@yutakago1736
@yutakago1736 3 жыл бұрын
The UK arms embargo means Argentina could not get ejection seats for many jet fighters from South Korea, Sweden and France. Their only option are JF-17.
@RedXlV
@RedXlV 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that none of those nations were willing to just make a revised version using non-British ejection seats. For that matter it's also surprising that the US hasn't sold them F-16s, which uses the entirely American Collins Aerospace ACES II rather than a Martin-Baker ejection seat. Sure, that might piss off the Brits, but it's better for US interests than having Argentina move into the Chinese orbit.
@gabbyprincip1575
@gabbyprincip1575 3 жыл бұрын
@@RedXlV The US is always offering used legacy F-16, they even offered F-18s, the issue is that not only they are old legacy versions, they also have a lot of flight hours so they are closer to being retired more than anything
@Ghost0fPakistan
@Ghost0fPakistan 3 жыл бұрын
The jf17 itself uses British Ejection seats, but the PAC already made arrangements for it by installing Turkish or Chinese ones.
@TheConspirateWarrior
@TheConspirateWarrior 3 жыл бұрын
@@RedXlV Well if the US had not supported the UK in the Malvinas-Falkland conflict providing satellite comms and intelligence Argentina's top brass would still consider to rely on US weaponry. Thats the price you pay for shortsighted diplomacy. Not saying that it did not make sense from a US perspective... just that there was a price tag on that decission
@peterevans8194
@peterevans8194 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheConspirateWarrior Price tag to pay? That's hilarious! I don't think the US is going to broke not selling a few aging second hand jets to Argentina 🤣 They probably abandoned more expensive equipment when they pulled out of Afghanistan! 🤣 The Argentinian Government will have to sell theirs souls (and the country's natural resources) to China as part of the deal with Pakistan...The JF-17 itself seems a decent enough plane and represents a major step forward for the Argentinian Air Force..
@Quizclash
@Quizclash 3 жыл бұрын
Love you Argentine from Pakistan ❣💪
@almasud6651
@almasud6651 3 жыл бұрын
Pakistan Argentina friendship long live Insha Allah
@fungallery360
@fungallery360 3 жыл бұрын
JF 17 is killing machine... His kill 2 indian fighter jet sukhi 30 mki and meraj 2000 .. And block 3 use PL 11/12 and 15 .. Is most advanced and power missile..
@usermk99
@usermk99 3 жыл бұрын
Little correction: JF-17 had shot down 1 SU-30. The other aircraft shot down was mig-21 (by F-16)
@rajparida4738
@rajparida4738 3 жыл бұрын
I am here after Argentina government deny purchasing jf17 from paksitan 😂😂
@usermk99
@usermk99 3 жыл бұрын
@@rajparida4738 lmao! first of ALL Argentina WILL buy JF-17s. Secondly, your happiness / excitement shows how desperate & obsessed indians are with Pakistan!. Get a life dude. :)
@helloworld.w6075
@helloworld.w6075 3 жыл бұрын
@@usermk99 Nope it was misinterpreted, the budget was to update current agrentanian military systems , The competition is still going on and 5 jets are in competition
@usermk99
@usermk99 3 жыл бұрын
@@helloworld.w6075 Well, Its upto them. I am more then sure JF-17 will be their selection as it has least British influence. Secondly, Azerbaijan, Iraq are very likely JF-17 future operators. Problem is PAC has only 18 - 20 aircraft development capacity / year. There is already order of 50 JF-17 Block IIIs for PAF. As a pakistani, I want PAF to get these first. Rest of the orders can wait. Also heard there will be follow up order by Nigerian and Myanmay airforces. Malaysia could also select but their requirements are Fighter / Trainer (LIFT) whereas JF-17 is primarily a LCA (Combat aircraft) with dual seat option available as trainer / fighter variant.
@XxBloggs
@XxBloggs 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt Argentina wants to fight another war with a much better defended British fleet.
@noodles169
@noodles169 3 жыл бұрын
It would last a few days this time around.
@keysersoze3427
@keysersoze3427 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It's more to do with their neighbours
@MrBao-yt7bk
@MrBao-yt7bk 3 жыл бұрын
The buildup isnt because of the British, it's because of the Chileans, their Main Geo political rival. Argentina actively shuts down any talk of another war with Britain.
@engrmusman3641
@engrmusman3641 3 жыл бұрын
Brother do you know? No country can mess with Pakistan. Why? Because of its defense equipments. Jf17 multirole. Its missiles etc
@rasanasarangi3772
@rasanasarangi3772 3 жыл бұрын
@@engrmusman3641 “ No country mess with pak” yea right after losing 4 wars and 27th feb failure operation. What else pak missiles are only targeting on their country ;)
@Sneemaster
@Sneemaster 3 жыл бұрын
Like like a mix between a Mirage, F-5 Tiger and an F-16.
@FirstDagger
@FirstDagger 3 жыл бұрын
Convergent design, the JF-17 is a result of the Super 7 program to get an aircraft to replace the A-5C Fantan, Mirage and J-7 in Pakistani service. Of course Pakistan at the time also operated the F-16 so there are some control and design inspirations.
@skaldlouiscyphre2453
@skaldlouiscyphre2453 3 жыл бұрын
@@FirstDagger Mikoyan was a consultant to this project. If you look up the Project 33 design you'll see a very similar looking aircraft in many respects, only with a chin intake like an F-16. Basically if you put those aero surfaces on the Grumman Super 7 you'll be 99% of the way to having this aircraft. The Super 7/Project Sabre II was an earlier developmental stage of the program that ultimately created the JF-17/FC-1.
@Quizclash
@Quizclash 3 жыл бұрын
On 27 February JF -17 had shot downed two Indian jet SU-30 and mig-21.thanks Abhinandan for JF 17 brand ambassador 😂
@dunya22
@dunya22 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ghost0fPakistan pak use jf17 not use16
@prasenjitsarkar138
@prasenjitsarkar138 3 жыл бұрын
no they are no buying, said Argentina's officials.
@blackfootball3414
@blackfootball3414 3 жыл бұрын
Here comes... Godi media warrior
@amarm5716
@amarm5716 3 жыл бұрын
It will be interesting to see what the Argentines plan to do about the Martin Baker ejection seats in the JF-17s.
@dat581
@dat581 3 жыл бұрын
They will get a lot of use!
@ramonmendes9542
@ramonmendes9542 3 жыл бұрын
They will go chinese, probably
@keysersoze3427
@keysersoze3427 3 жыл бұрын
Same as with the Myanmar planes they wil use Chinese seats.
@RedXlV
@RedXlV 3 жыл бұрын
Buy Chinese seats instead.
@atifrana5470
@atifrana5470 3 жыл бұрын
They have already changed those ejection seats.
@ivanstepanovic1327
@ivanstepanovic1327 3 жыл бұрын
- You can buy western aircrafts, Argentina! - OK, so let me get some... - Sorry, no can do... Embargo due to Brits complaining! - So, I am going to buy Russian or Chinese jets... - Aaaaah, noooo! No can do! Only our! - But you won't sell them to me! - True, but that is what you can buy...
@asadali319319
@asadali319319 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful decision. Its wonder full fighter jet
@Beeevash
@Beeevash 3 жыл бұрын
But why not buy j-10c, its better bang for the buck than jf-17 blk3. Even pakistanis are going for j-10c after using jf-17 for years. Chinese can integrate western origin weapons in j-10c if asked, they integrated brazilian arm missile with jf-17 on pakistani request. Both fighters are single engine with similar operating cost. Pound for pound j-10c is a SUPERIOR fighter than jf-17 blk3 in every aspect. Unless some undertable 'gifts' are given to Argentinian politicians i don't see how jf-17 blk3 can win this deal over j-10c
@wtsane5449
@wtsane5449 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the Northrop F20 finally made it into production.
@Muneeb__Arain
@Muneeb__Arain 3 жыл бұрын
JF 17 Thunder Block 3 is a 4.5 Generation Aircraft. And, Pakistan & China have Developed it to fight French made Indian Rafale and other modern Aircrafts. And, it can carry World's longest rage BVR Missiles, Supersonic Cruise Missiles, and many more Weapons. And, it's a cheap Fighter Jet. Pakistan and China have also equiped JF 17 Thunder Block 3 with some features of 5th Generation Aircrafts. And, it is easy to maintain, easy to upgrade and it's Maintainence is cheaper than other Aircrafts of it's category.
@Notafantbhm8
@Notafantbhm8 3 жыл бұрын
Any talk of the Falklands is laughable. Brits like Americans only knowing their own history. Argentina has been with every country that shares its borders. More likely to use them against Chile etc than the Falklands 😂 and even that is laughable
@studentaviator3756
@studentaviator3756 3 жыл бұрын
If it can be used in pretence to persude politicians to improve our air defense capabilities. Then that would be a good thing.
@Notafantbhm8
@Notafantbhm8 3 жыл бұрын
@@studentaviator3756 why waste money on some jets? I’m sure Argentina could use that cash to fix roads/bridges Build schools etc A handful of Chinese/Pakistani jets won’t help them if Chile decides to invade. (Not that they would, js)
@studentaviator3756
@studentaviator3756 3 жыл бұрын
@@Notafantbhm8 I am British, I think our defense budget should be 3% instead of 2%. So I would see the Argentines buying those jets as a good excuse to increase spending.
@MrBao-yt7bk
@MrBao-yt7bk 3 жыл бұрын
@@Notafantbhm8 their infraestructure's pretty good judging by their HDI. It's good for them to have some jets, especially after Chile's claim from last month.
@Notafantbhm8
@Notafantbhm8 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrBao-yt7bk oh what was the claim?
@jonberk9028
@jonberk9028 3 жыл бұрын
It's a fake news 😂😂😂😂, Argentina said sorry haha
@rougarou3716
@rougarou3716 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe a cause of concern, but not illogical; Argentina would of course eventually search for an alternative as Britain kept pushing the boycott button. Though such a small air force would not immediately pose a big threat to the FI.
@deanwood1338
@deanwood1338 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a small amount of typhoons on the Falklands aswell. Plus early warning so they wouldn’t even get out of Argentine airspace with out setting off an alert somewhere.
@immad9706
@immad9706 3 жыл бұрын
Its a well summed up video gave us breif idea about technology and geopolitics behind this deal
@VersusARCH
@VersusARCH 3 жыл бұрын
"Looking" aint' the same as "booking", which is still not same as "hooking"...
@keysersoze3427
@keysersoze3427 3 жыл бұрын
Yup I still think the US will throw something into the mix.
@jamestheotherone742
@jamestheotherone742 3 жыл бұрын
Its no longer the Cold War. Nations can and do purchase defense products from countries without becoming vassal states. The only reason they do is that they are ideologically aligned and/or are receiving subsidies (like the Americans often do). Since Argentina isn't strategically important, no offers were probably forthcoming therefore the lack of tenders from the usual suspects.
@ivu-fe4ik
@ivu-fe4ik 3 жыл бұрын
As an argentinian, I don't like the idea of buying chinese aircraft, however we are in the need of new multi-role military planes, and basicly no western option is available.
@stamfordly6463
@stamfordly6463 3 жыл бұрын
You could just drop spurious claims to other people's territory... then people would be falling over themselves to sell you stuff.
@bjoernschneider7762
@bjoernschneider7762 3 жыл бұрын
I think most Argentinians would be better served with healthcare, housing, a not corrupted government, and less debt. But If you really need 14 fast flying, nearly burning metal cans, that most of the time do nothing but eat money and fuel .. If that makes you really happy ..
@ivu-fe4ik
@ivu-fe4ik 3 жыл бұрын
@@bjoernschneider7762 We do have an exelent healthcare system, modt argentinians have housing, and yes, our goverment is extremely corrupt. But there are islands of chinese fishing boats stealing all of our fishes on the border of our country and we have no way of stopping them. It's a major problem that we need to solve fast
@1IbramGaunt
@1IbramGaunt 3 жыл бұрын
@@ivu-fe4ik might be better to focus on getting a navy that doesn't sink of it's own accord rather than new planes for the air-force then
@skasteve6528
@skasteve6528 3 жыл бұрын
As you say, options were limited. The JF-17 is good enough for the price.
@rajashujahit8452
@rajashujahit8452 3 жыл бұрын
World No 1 fighter Air craft....
@LuqmanHM
@LuqmanHM 3 жыл бұрын
Not surprising as they have limited number of choices. My speculation is that JF17 will be more expensive and intensive to maintain compared to other single engine fighters. This is mainly due to the engine used as it has lesser MTBF conpared to Mig29 engine and need more maintenance. Malaysia retired their Mig29 at half the lifespan of the airframes.
@jlvfr
@jlvfr 3 жыл бұрын
The RD-93 is a much modernised version of that engine, so I bet reliability wull be better, and it's supplied by the chinese, whose logistics & support are supposed to be superior to the russians. Then again, they really don't have another choice.
@jattjamesbond1122
@jattjamesbond1122 3 жыл бұрын
Idiot mig29 is double engine jf17 is single
@pakistan2378
@pakistan2378 3 жыл бұрын
Engine already changed in block 3. New engine RD93 A have be installed in block 3
@keysersoze3427
@keysersoze3427 3 жыл бұрын
@@pakistan2378 No it hasn't. It is still the RD93. You are thinking about the RD93MA that is still in development.
@keysersoze3427
@keysersoze3427 3 жыл бұрын
Malaysia had issues with spare parts. I think this deal includes infrastructure and spares as part of the deal. The MBTF is lower with the RD93 but I doubt the Argentine airforce will blow through the flight hours quickly in the short term.
@thestormofwar
@thestormofwar 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting play by China. Bounce Argentina off the US via the UK and get more play in the US's backyard. For some reason, I always thought Argentina was a good candidate for the Gripen, but didn't really consider UK political influence in that (if applicable at all).
@1IbramGaunt
@1IbramGaunt 3 жыл бұрын
It IS applicable, Gripen has substantial British components in it
@gabbyprincip1575
@gabbyprincip1575 3 жыл бұрын
The Gripens would be veto by the UK. Russian and Chinese planes are their only option
@afankhan482
@afankhan482 3 жыл бұрын
The British will want to convince Pakistan not to sell some A2G weapons which are integrated with Pakistani Thunders, like the H2/H4 SOW munitions, Ra’ad ALCM etc. Those would be a problem, while even AESA equipped, BVR capable aircraft won’t change the balance, the former will.
@notagain3714
@notagain3714 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative analysis.
@marclaplante5679
@marclaplante5679 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps Argentina should be more concerned with paying off the debt-funding bonds they defaulted on. They have a credit rating somewhere between Zimbabwe and a crack addict.
@MrBao-yt7bk
@MrBao-yt7bk 3 жыл бұрын
They actually need the jets since Chile claimed Argentine territory a little under a month ago, they aren't looking for a fight with the British, they are looking to counter Chilean F16's.
@MrBao-yt7bk
@MrBao-yt7bk 3 жыл бұрын
@bobbiebob575 bob It's obvious this is just Argentina testing the waters for a bigger purchase in the future, even this video says so.
@d-rob5513
@d-rob5513 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrBao-yt7bk with what money ? gang of potless tramps.
@johnasbury7511
@johnasbury7511 3 жыл бұрын
What is per plane cost of the JF-17
@bjoernschneider7762
@bjoernschneider7762 3 жыл бұрын
Between 40 - 60 Mio US$, depending on with or without weaponry, technical assistance and service, training ...
@allthatjazz641
@allthatjazz641 3 жыл бұрын
@@bjoernschneider7762 & support for Beijing Biden
@ryansta
@ryansta 3 жыл бұрын
They should wait for when DCS runs a sale then.
@agdgdgwngo
@agdgdgwngo 3 жыл бұрын
Falklands map gonna be lit
@Flankymanga
@Flankymanga 3 жыл бұрын
One other thing.... these planes will most likely use RD-93 engines that are of Russian origin... a VERY crucial component.
@syedhammadhussain6617
@syedhammadhussain6617 3 жыл бұрын
block 3 has WS-13 instead of RD-93, it's been completing it's mandatory flight hours for acceptance purposes.
@arkadeepkundu4729
@arkadeepkundu4729 3 жыл бұрын
Brits: *Agressive Island noises*
@Rich77UK
@Rich77UK 3 жыл бұрын
There are Eurofighters stationed there permanently. If Britain can afford to fuel them and have them on practiced stand by (How lazy the military has become compared to cold war era) then the JF17 is no match. Not that (as a Brit) i EVER want to see that tried in practice. Britain and Argentina should (politically) grow up and talk it over not flex muscles.
@noodles169
@noodles169 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rich77UK and then on the horizon appears a QE class carrier loaded with f35s.
@studentaviator3756
@studentaviator3756 3 жыл бұрын
Aggressive island noises intensify.
@keysersoze3427
@keysersoze3427 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rich77UK Ironically the UK was for all intents going to hand over the islands gradually in the 80s. If Argentina had waited they might gotten their wish. However the Junta miscalculated and were worried about civil unrest at home invaded. Once blood was spilled over the islands there is no way Argentina is getting anything.
@Xxkofoorirj4kkwnqjqii1u1j1
@Xxkofoorirj4kkwnqjqii1u1j1 3 жыл бұрын
What is different JF 17 between pakistan vs chinese ???? Is it totally same ???
@MuhammadIsmail-in6vf
@MuhammadIsmail-in6vf 3 жыл бұрын
JF 17 was developed jointly by the two countries, the avionics, radar, and other stuff comes from china, engine from russia, while the airframe is built and the planes are assembled in pakistan. Pakistan has 58% production share of the jet. The jet was designed to be used by Pakistan and for export. Chinese don't use it or produce it. Although they are responsible for most of the development of newer blocks.
@AntKart
@AntKart 3 жыл бұрын
I found this extremely unlikely, not because of the quality of the plane, but due to the incapacity of the Argentine government to generate any income, even less generating credible debt to afford the planes for at least a couple more decades. My guess is this is a smoke curtain from the government to pretend to solve the issue and then kick the decision to the next government and so on.
@EdNashsMilitaryMatters
@EdNashsMilitaryMatters 3 жыл бұрын
That seems entirely plausible.
@johngreen-sk4yk
@johngreen-sk4yk 3 жыл бұрын
I hope the Pakistanis have asked for cash up front !😁
@sidv4615
@sidv4615 3 жыл бұрын
@@johngreen-sk4yk chinese, had pakistanis built this exact plane on its own no one wouldve bought it, stuff like planes and other military equipment are deals which come with a huge diplomatic baggage. If a country x buys jets from country y, y knows that x will support it everywhere, internationally/diplomatically etc.
@bjoernschneider7762
@bjoernschneider7762 3 жыл бұрын
But they're pushing it for years. Twelve jets aren't a mighty costly air force. And they are pressuring the Chinese to lower the price, otherwise they buy Tejas.
@martindione386
@martindione386 3 жыл бұрын
a provision for a purchase of supersonic fighters have been in the budget for a decade at least, first it was to purchase Kfir, then for Spanish Mirage F1, then Gripen, then FA-50, now it's the JF-17. But just because now is a non-western aircraft, everyone's losing their minds.
@thediversity6203
@thediversity6203 3 жыл бұрын
JF-17 has a plus point as it has shot down 2 indian Mig and Sukhoi in 2019. It means its reliable!
@thenaturenature3509
@thenaturenature3509 3 жыл бұрын
Es kabaad ko argentina nahi kharidne wala Sapne se uth jaa bhaau
@babarafridi6944
@babarafridi6944 3 жыл бұрын
@@thenaturenature3509 myanmar or nigeria bhi nahi khareed rahe thay.... 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@blackfootball3414
@blackfootball3414 3 жыл бұрын
@@thenaturenature3509 Argentina should buy Tejas 😂😂
@singatakberpura
@singatakberpura 3 жыл бұрын
Nice joke please tell us where is 2nd pilot in cmh as per ispr ghafoors statement
@dykatran
@dykatran 3 жыл бұрын
JF-17 looks like all of renowned jets flying in Vietnam war fuse into one.
@Ozraptor4
@Ozraptor4 3 жыл бұрын
Looks as if an F-105 and and F-5 had a baby.
@bjoernschneider7762
@bjoernschneider7762 3 жыл бұрын
It's got a Russian engine, a Chinese Radar and an American Radar Warning Receiver
@maxsimonpieri8021
@maxsimonpieri8021 3 жыл бұрын
Après le malencontreux événement des sous marins australiens pourquoi la France n'outrepasserait elle pas l'embargo anglais , ce serait un juste retour des choses non?
@attaorakzai3010
@attaorakzai3010 3 жыл бұрын
Best choice by Argentina, because jf17 thunder show himself to hit and destroyed Indian mig29 and Su30.
@keysersoze3427
@keysersoze3427 3 жыл бұрын
Nope no Mig 29. The su30 is not confirmed. Most of the damage was done by F16s.
@abidafridi6379
@abidafridi6379 3 жыл бұрын
@@keysersoze3427 in that war 27 feb 2019 there was not a single f-16
@keysersoze3427
@keysersoze3427 3 жыл бұрын
@@abidafridi6379 Yes there was mate. Its been admitted. That's the reason the Indians were whining so much and waving parts of Amraams about. The mig21 was shot down by a F16 and the alleged SU30 shoot down was by Amraam. F-16, flown by Wg Cdr Noman Ali Khan, commanding officer of No 29 ‘Aggressors’ Squadron and Sqn Ldr Hasan Siddiqui allegedly shot down the su30.
@biswanarayan2878
@biswanarayan2878 3 жыл бұрын
@@keysersoze3427 actually things are little bit different , mig21 shot f16 then missile fired by f16 hit mig21 . No su30 was hit . Proof of f16 shot is also gives by Pakistan , as they said that their ground forces have recovered two pilots , one was of mig21 and other was of f16. But to save Pakistan from international shame its army made a make up story . That f16 was not used That's why half Pakistan believe jf17 shot mig21 and half believe f16 shot mig21 .
@biswanarayan2878
@biswanarayan2878 3 жыл бұрын
@@abidafridi6379 😂😂😂 so why PAF showcased f16 shot mig21 at Pakistan airforce museum 😂😂
@sangeenshahkhan
@sangeenshahkhan 3 жыл бұрын
Being Pakistani and somewhat British. On one side io am pleased with Pak-Argentinian agreement but also dont want to see Pakistan being on war path with UK either. So hope Argentina sort its issues with UK.
@1IbramGaunt
@1IbramGaunt 3 жыл бұрын
Bit worrying to me how outnumbered the RAF Typhoons on the Falklands are suddenly gonna be. While one-on-one I've every confidence they're more than a match for these "Thunders", it's suddenly gonna be 14 to 4, and there's no guarantee the Argies will stop at those 14. How difficult and expensive would sending more Typhoons down there be though
@HiringHamblin
@HiringHamblin 3 жыл бұрын
The Typhoons have Meteor BVR missiles The Argentines have to keep their JF-19s airworthy I know who my money is on
@1IbramGaunt
@1IbramGaunt 3 жыл бұрын
@@HiringHamblin oh mine too haha, I don't even think a real Argentine attack is likely anyway, I just don't think we should take any chances and that we should send at least a few more aircraft down there just in case, especially if there's any chance of Chinese involvement in any future struggle, as a deterrent if nothing else. Nothing too extravagant but maybe add enough planes and pilots to make it a full-strength permanent squadron
@noodles169
@noodles169 3 жыл бұрын
They have a shed load of air defence systems on the Island. Plus a type 45. 14 jets ain't gonna do much
@1IbramGaunt
@1IbramGaunt 3 жыл бұрын
@@noodles169 the Type 45 isn't always there and the SAM's are mostly old 80's stuff we left behind after the war. Don't get me wrong, between those and the Typhoons it SHOULD indeed be enough, but I don't want just enough, I want devastating overwhelming supremacy
@peterharrington8709
@peterharrington8709 3 жыл бұрын
@@1IbramGaunt I think you're right that bumping up the air defence to include a full squadron of Typoons would be sensible. It'd leave no doubt whatsoever that UK would still defend the islands. With that in place deploying a Type 45 is overkill even if we could spare one IMO.
@thegodofhellfire
@thegodofhellfire 3 жыл бұрын
More current event videos Ed!
@ngwaykiat9918
@ngwaykiat9918 3 жыл бұрын
Argentina don’t have a option they must purchase jet fighter from Pakistan 🇵🇰 or China 🇨🇳 because UK always block Argentina 🇦🇷 purchase jet fighter from EU or other country
@keysersoze3427
@keysersoze3427 3 жыл бұрын
They had the Kfir option and F16s have been offered to them from America
@abdullahkhattak5131
@abdullahkhattak5131 3 жыл бұрын
@@keysersoze3427 I think u reading all comments
@keysersoze3427
@keysersoze3427 3 жыл бұрын
@@abdullahkhattak5131 LOL there were only a few on here before.
@abdullahkhattak5131
@abdullahkhattak5131 3 жыл бұрын
@@keysersoze3427 I saw u in so many moments reply 🤣😅
@keysersoze3427
@keysersoze3427 3 жыл бұрын
@@abdullahkhattak5131 I know lol. I am off work for a few days so having a bit of fun.
@jimroberts4289
@jimroberts4289 3 жыл бұрын
Hope this thing Will fly from pak to Argentina few year back Pakistanis we’re driving cars with water lol
@kokadosh8763
@kokadosh8763 3 жыл бұрын
The planes may be good but it's from a seller that usually has some sort of big catch
@enhancedutility266
@enhancedutility266 3 жыл бұрын
It's the only jet available for them to buy Russian jet's are another option but then that opens them up to sanctions by the US.
@stonesolomon4506
@stonesolomon4506 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect weapon to sink Chinese fishing boats in Argentina waters!
@FirstDagger
@FirstDagger 3 жыл бұрын
JF-17 already can use Mk 80 series bombs.
@611amir
@611amir 3 жыл бұрын
To enjoy peace be ready to sacrifice. The peace you enjoying someone paid blood for it .
@peterboy209
@peterboy209 3 жыл бұрын
An up to date F-20 would be great,👍
@keysersoze3427
@keysersoze3427 3 жыл бұрын
I think the F20 has gone the way of the dodo. Imagine the cost of re tooling to build new ones
@geodkyt
@geodkyt 3 жыл бұрын
@@keysersoze3427 Yeah, cheaper at this point to start with a clean sheet of paper. Much like the ongoing Internet Expert fantasies about restarting F-22 or A-10 production.
@unseenvideos9447
@unseenvideos9447 3 жыл бұрын
FAKE NEWS, ARGENTINA GOVERNMENT REJECTED, also they called it Chinese JF17 not Pakistani
@richardpoynton4026
@richardpoynton4026 3 жыл бұрын
My only advice to Pakistan would be “get the money FIRST, before you give them the jets!” (Though you’ll probably have to take it in trade goods - how many tins of corned beef per jet, I wonder?)
@m.salleh5919
@m.salleh5919 3 жыл бұрын
😅...🤔...😂😂😂
@lea-lj8jl
@lea-lj8jl 3 жыл бұрын
Its a complicated case where political pressure reduces the choices of aircraft the FAA and the government could afford, the fact that the budget is given with the name of the JF-17 (it usually is just a generic name like "supersonic multirole aircraft") says something, although the last contact between the FAA and CATIC was made last year(?). In the end well have to see if this budget is approved an executed, thing that could happen, but its mostly unlikely. And regarding the A-4s, they are not grounded !
@1IbramGaunt
@1IbramGaunt 3 жыл бұрын
The A4's might not be grounded but they take a lot of keeping in the air I bet haha, and unlike these new JF17's don't stand a chance against any modern opponents
@lea-lj8jl
@lea-lj8jl 3 жыл бұрын
@@1IbramGaunt Its true, specially when considering the AR is not just a common A4, a lot of components were made specifically for it, and are not made anymore. We'll have to see if they go on with the JF-17..or if they just keep waiting.
@geordiedog1749
@geordiedog1749 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sure they’ve missed the boat. They could have found the Messi had an English grandparent 15 years ago and we’d have let them have anything they wanted.
@syarizansulaiman6554
@syarizansulaiman6554 3 жыл бұрын
Some news saying Argentine airforce denied it, but for me is ok any country buy JF17 , low cost and easy to find spare part.
@jor070
@jor070 3 жыл бұрын
Argentina has always the option on the table of legacy F-16, Mirages 2000 or even Mig-29/35 as well but in the same way the cur left gov only accepted chinese vaxs ( yes you read right at least until was very late for many people ) they will do the same with any arms deal. But not be confused, all budgets since 2010 included money for new supersonic jets but politicians always found a way to avoid any purchase and in any case I doubt the planes come with any advanced weapons
@cruachan463
@cruachan463 3 жыл бұрын
Gobierno de la izquierda??? Dónde, en Argentina? 🤣😂🤣😂 Saludos desde Buenos Aires
@atifrana5470
@atifrana5470 3 жыл бұрын
And what if later on USA and France put sanctions to buy spare parts 😅😅
@felixgregory6290
@felixgregory6290 3 жыл бұрын
Arent the ejection seats made by martin-baker? Surely that would be grounds either to block the sale of would require significant redesign at large cost?
@labeedimrankhan9205
@labeedimrankhan9205 3 жыл бұрын
Martin Baker is choice of Pakistan air force not necessary in actual design.
@felixgregory6290
@felixgregory6290 3 жыл бұрын
@@labeedimrankhan9205 i see, thanks.
@jamestuck6764
@jamestuck6764 3 жыл бұрын
The UK probably will block the sale of the MB ejection seat and as far as I can tell the JF-17 has never been sold with a different one so it will most likely be redesigned to take a different seat. It will cost to do that but I expect the Argentinians will be willing to accept that to get the aircraft. It depends how much of the MB seat was integral to the design. It might just be plug and play in which case they might be able to get a Russian seat to do the job without too much difficulty.
@farhanullah7421
@farhanullah7421 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamestuck6764 JF-17s were sold to Myanmar with Chinese seats.
@shahbazghouri5063
@shahbazghouri5063 3 жыл бұрын
JF-17 Thunder will definitely be a booster for Argentine Air Force, hope this deal goes well as planned 👍
@d-rob5513
@d-rob5513 3 жыл бұрын
it would actually give them a functioning airforce, all be it a shitty pointless one 😂
@Camilo_Z
@Camilo_Z Жыл бұрын
@@d-rob5513 Not pointless, chile is somewhat of a threat.
@clansman89
@clansman89 3 жыл бұрын
Why do British keep vetoing Argentinian purchases? They're not in war anymore, aren't they?
@FallenPhoenix86
@FallenPhoenix86 3 жыл бұрын
Will the Chinese let this go through? Surely it would mean the US getting a close look at it. Oh and pretty sure it has an MB seat... so HM Gov. says no...
@FallenPhoenix86
@FallenPhoenix86 3 жыл бұрын
@Reader Stuff Was thinking more the radar and any weapons that they happen to take with it. The airframe itself, not really anything of particular interest I imagine.
@LuqmanHM
@LuqmanHM 3 жыл бұрын
The MB seat can be replaced with other seat as stated by the company
@FallenPhoenix86
@FallenPhoenix86 3 жыл бұрын
@@LuqmanHM At Argentina's Expense... similar issues have blocked previous efforts.
@keysersoze3427
@keysersoze3427 3 жыл бұрын
@@FallenPhoenix86 They haven't. The Myanmar purchase used Chinese ejection seats.
@FallenPhoenix86
@FallenPhoenix86 3 жыл бұрын
@@keysersoze3427 "They havn't" what? The UK wasn't trying to block Myanmar from buying anything... It has been enough everytime Argentina has looked at a Mirage derivative.
@shafishafique6412
@shafishafique6412 3 жыл бұрын
They're not buying anymore...
@pagelcm0
@pagelcm0 3 жыл бұрын
The only ones who dispute that the UK owns the falkans is Argentina. calling them "disputed islands" is kinda... non factual.
@franciscosansalone
@franciscosansalone 3 жыл бұрын
It's quite literally half of the world, look on Google to see who supports who on a map
@kamran102
@kamran102 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video about the Romanian IAR-80/81 fighter! :-)
@EdNashsMilitaryMatters
@EdNashsMilitaryMatters 3 жыл бұрын
It's on the list ;)
@kamran102
@kamran102 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdNashsMilitaryMatters And the Swedish J-21 and/or J-22 and/or B-18!! :-D
@Spookieham
@Spookieham 3 жыл бұрын
Jf17 against an RAF Typhoon? Not to mention the Air Defences and any Type 45 Destroyers that happening to hanging around ? Suicide mission.
@noodles169
@noodles169 3 жыл бұрын
Plus the f35s. It would be a turkey shoot
@MrBao-yt7bk
@MrBao-yt7bk 3 жыл бұрын
They aren't buying them with typhoons in mind idiots, they are looking to somewhat counter the Chileans F-16D's, since the Chilean goverment is actively claiming Argentine territory.
@mikepette4422
@mikepette4422 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrBao-yt7bk like the agries are claiming the "malvinas" errr Falkland Islands
@MrBao-yt7bk
@MrBao-yt7bk 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikepette4422 through diplomatic means, they refuse the idea of going to war, it's extremely unpopular since the Argies hate the Argentine army.
@minianimejesus8792
@minianimejesus8792 3 жыл бұрын
They aren't going to war with the bri ish
@pulentoman2083
@pulentoman2083 3 жыл бұрын
Not true. As always Argentina is saying it is going to buy some planes. New comments about it from the Ministry
@nucleargandhi101
@nucleargandhi101 3 жыл бұрын
Argentina is not buying JF17. It's a rubbish report. Argentina said it itself.
@wladyslawturowicz.2714
@wladyslawturowicz.2714 3 жыл бұрын
lol .why indians are afraid though indian tejas are 60 % grounded and rubbish of the world
@wladyslawturowicz.2714
@wladyslawturowicz.2714 3 жыл бұрын
i think argentina asked that to godi media in dreams
@nucleargandhi101
@nucleargandhi101 3 жыл бұрын
@@wladyslawturowicz.2714 60% is grounded? 😂😂😂 Dude 60% of JF17 is grounded go and check the news. It's airframe is cracking. And it's bolts dont hold up. It's radar is weak yet so heavy that fuselage isn't able to take it
@wladyslawturowicz.2714
@wladyslawturowicz.2714 3 жыл бұрын
@@nucleargandhi101 how can you defend tejas which are 60% grounded and by the way i am irish
@nucleargandhi101
@nucleargandhi101 3 жыл бұрын
@@wladyslawturowicz.2714 Tejas aint grounded dude. Tejas is being inducted right now, then how can it be grounded? IAF has just received 40 jets and 83 more are to be inducted in Mark 1A configuration. And no, you're not Irish. Lol. Your DP is that of a polish paxtani pilot which served in paxtan. And your account is just 1 month old. Sabko apne jesa madarsa wala samajh rakha hai kya? Hahahahaha
@jjayyoung7335
@jjayyoung7335 3 жыл бұрын
Was that 14 total aircraft at 664 million dollars? That’s 47 million per aircraft! Holy shit they can’t be worth that much
@chaljhota420
@chaljhota420 3 жыл бұрын
This includes training , maintainance , new weapons induction with the passage of time and much more ... U just seen a figure but u dont know details ...... Wait and see
@farhanullah7421
@farhanullah7421 3 жыл бұрын
@@chaljhota420 Block 3 has MAWS, AESA Radar, Increased Composites, Better thrust, Cockpit Upgrades, HMD, HUD upgrades, HOBS missiles, better EW sensors, more secure Datalinks, ECM among a lot of other updates. It is a beast in a small jet.
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