Arguing Against Biblical Slavery

Arguing against slavery in the bible being objectively moral.
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[@davidallen111]

Slavery was never needed for a successful society. Slavery is an efficient, but not necessary, way to consolidate wealth and power to a privileged few. There are much better ways to build a civilization, but when using these ways it was more difficult to consolidate wealth and power, so tyrants did not choose those ways.

[@ashleywaite2537]

Incorrect. Slavery was not necessary. What a blunder. Did it make life easier for the slave owners? Yes, but it was NOT necessary. Goodness

[@samluciano2309]

How do you know? You live in 2024 in your warm cousey house. You do realize that vikings lived around that time and all kind of savages who raid your village? Are you aware of that or nah

[@Factsworld_001]

There is an Indian King Named Ashoka. He lived around 1st century BC he was Buddhist and he banned all kind of slave trade and you know most of the ancient Structures still stands in India are of budhist origin. And it was way before Hinduism and their caste system existed. So No Slaves. no caste systems and still one of the best Kingdom existed with marvelous structures were built.

[@BlueBarrier782]

When the people around you have slaves, you need slaves too! Totally makes it right to own people . . . 🤦‍♂️

[@afroatheist-isnowafroantit6154]

My people were slaves and they try to justify it a lot here in America ...

[@skraf883]

I disagree that slavery was necessary. It was never necessary. It was used by pretty much every culture, yes, but we had little to no concept of human rights. We could have accomplished our goals at the time without slavery. We started off as nomadic hunter/gatherers without slaves, it was the advent of the warrior class that brought about slavery. You gave the right question to the caller to ask him priest though.. how would you like to be a slave? Ancient slave owners also knew that they did not want to be slaves.. they should have applied that logic to the people that they owned as property.

[@patriceriksson7924]

Funny! Here in Sweden it’s the other way around. Here it would be ”Are you out as a christian yet?” Not easy here to admit that you believe in a particular myth.

[@Twentydragon]

Morality is subjective, and this is a moral question. It doesn't have to be "objectively wrong" in order to be heinous.

[@mr.j2247]

Slavery is NEVER necessary. I 1000% disagree...

[@uncleanunicorn4571]

Frederick douglas in his autobiography observed how the northern states replaced slave labor with animals and simple machines, In fact achieving a greater Productivity due to the high purchase cost of slaves. If you Still think slavery is moral We can start with you.

[@taomaster2486]

It would be great if you could balance the audio output as it keep feeling awkward hearing in one ear then in another

[@Bugsy0333]

Your telling people that "slavery was necessary" and coming from Talk Heathen is your biggest downfall. Shame on you !

[@joshuamartinpryce1237]

Slavery was permitted in the bible, but what matters is not what is said but how it is said, pertaining scripture. For example even though slavery was permitted, slaves were given freedom to marry and freedom to be looked after, so slaves is a light term, its more like servants. And after 7 years slaves were told to be freed from duties. This is the law of Moses. God has slaves but makes them His servants and lives for them and provides for them expecting us to the same as Christians for Him. Jesus Christ.

[@sceptictakeout6809]

Why do people defending Biblical slavery never mention that the slaves can be beaten and if a slave is given a wife who has children the slave master owns the children? Are they servants? Is it right that servants can be beaten? Would you be my servant under Biblical rules and after your 7 years allow me to own your children?

[@debraperry6091]

Women weren't given wives. They didn't have that choice. They were slaves in perpetuity. There was no loophole for them. Even after the US emancipated the slaves, women were still the property of their husbands, who could beat them freely, without any consequences unless she died. She couldn't refuse her husband sex. The church enforces that attitude to this day. They still push laws restricting women's bodily autonomy, demonizing women to keep people from pushing back. They still 'other' people to gain and maintain control over them.

[@somersetcace1]

You should probably read the entire chapter concerning the year of Jubilee. Leviticus 25. There is an exception to it. Verses 44-46. So ,long as they are foreigners you may own them as property for life and will them to your children. It even adds, "but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites` ruthlessly." Foreigner's? Ehh, no problem.

[@debraperry6091]

A slave can be given a wife. What does that make women? Just property, less than slaves? They don't have a seven year out. They're forced to breed and their children can be taken away at any time. But it's just 'slavery lite.' Tell me another one. And while we're talking, I have a bridge you might be interested in.

[@Gambit0590]

@@joshuamartinpryce1237 typical lying Christian apologist

[@pauls.6360]

Duh