[Arknights] Lvl3 Module SilverAsh Vs Mlynar Comparison

[@KrazyBean14]

Damage is much closer now. Have to also bear in mind that SA can be helidropped and fully ready after 15s while Mlynar needs 40s to reach max ATK. This will obviously change once Mlynar gets his module, but let's not worry about that right now lol.

[@Only_Ameen04]

I think the biggest advantage Mlynar has over SA is the SP cost. Mlynar take 42s to recharge while SA take about 60s with being redeploy.

[@joyolopop2347]

SA Mod 3 + pot 51s redeploy

[@ReWhiteout]

Nah we're fine. It'll take HG another 5000 years before they release liberator mod

Mlynar has a big defensive stat so he can take much more hit than SA which is another big plus side for Mlynar but the fact that the gap between them is closer now mean SCHWING SCHWING KNIGHT IS STRONGER KNOW LET FCKING GOOO Now HG give Mlynar and Tequila a module already I need to feed my schwing schwing addiction

[@littlelw319]

@@Only_Ameen04 i mean yeah, but SA also open a deployment slot for other unit to be used when he his skill is out. a fair trade tbh

[@smallphi]

Given all the requests, here is the comparison between lvl3 module SilverAsh and Mlynar. Mlynar is always fully charged.

[@kriptionite8412]

you should totally showcase the redeploy improvement too bro

[@artek0050]

Awesome comparison. Hopefully Młynar's module focuses on something other than his already absurd damage.

[@Engitsu]

​@@artek0050 Yes, more absurd, more damage 😈

[@Dzukill-jp]

Both of them are 0 potential or 6?

[@smallphi]

@@Dzukill-jp Both 0 potential

[@JohnathanTrinity]

Huh.... It's pretty almost close in comparison. Overall, Mlynar is still the better heavy hitter, better at taking boss. But the more enemies in range, the more SA has the advantage since his dmg won't drop from mobs killing.

[@galeria_m]

agreed. i was gonna argue about silverash needing to avoid getting physically hit due to the def debuff but most of the time now, hed just kill the enemy before they hit them. i will say he still suffers from the same SP cost but thankfully his talent makes up for it even more now, it's still hard to keep up with mlynar in this regard imo but im glad he improved THIS much. i just hope Qiu gets that other module soon

[@Allurita]

Now the question is how it will be once Liberators get their module..

[@galeria_m]

@@Allurita i doubt they'll give mlynar an overpowered module

[@heffil0]

@@galeria_m trait charge increase to 220% or charge time reduced to 35s (my guess)

[@galeria_m]

@@heffil0 my guess is around that too

[@darkrealmlight92]

That’s actually quite the substantial difference in damage between SA with and without Mods.

[@galeria_m]

a good module indeed

[@Mutualititve]

A friendly reminder the dmg buff for SA wasn't the main thing it has lol. It's actually a helidrop moldule for not only SA and allies near him so you can expect to see him even more on challenge run where redeploy is needed.

[@galeria_m]

20% is REALLY good but the "allies within the adjacent tiles" part is kinda hard to fulfill when he himself is out of the field.. i kinda wish they made him have that when he's in the squad like the original one but ig thatd make him too overpowered a support unit 💀

[@dalgona4819]

@@galeria_m I think SA is the one benefiting the most from the redeploy bonus since it also applies to him, he's being easier to helidrop now than ever.

[@galeria_m]

@@dalgona4819 yeppp

[@PekoraMamiCouncilHK]

Adjacent tiles means a higher meidc requirement Boss nowadays often do AOE damage

[@RRizii]

they're definitely closer to each other now mlynar will surely pull away again once he got his module but at that point silverash can also get his 2nd module, and since it buffs his second talent if HG is smart enough to give something like "reveal invisible enemies; -x% def to enemies in range", the game's back on for both of them, but that's for the future when it actually happens, for what it is right now it sounds a lot less like copium to say that silverash is a great alternative to mlynar, silverash even edges out in some multi-target scenarios in that video because he attacks 1 more target, apart from that while mlynar still has the shorter time-to-kill, silverash still eventually kills whatever he's hitting as well, and let's not forget that 20% redeployment time cut. now the current sitting is that mlynar is an aoe burst with short skill cycle and taunt, whereas silverash is an aoe burst with less damage but better repositionability and helidrop capability, along with invis dispell nice job HG, see we know you can release a good module that pulls out a dead starter operator back from their grave when you put your mind to it now go fix angelina's modules

[@miriamvieiraabrantes7640]

Angie is definitely gonna need a ∆ module

[@ShiroTheFoxrouge123]

Imagine if Mostima deals pure damage but based on how slow the enemies are.

[@hihigocat]

@@ShiroTheFoxrouge123 current module is what makes her and her slow even usable nowadays, itd be so rough for a delta mod to get close to that performance

[@anhkhoanguyen8562]

@@ShiroTheFoxrouge123 mostima is a staple pick in any high difficulty content (IS risk 14, CC) due to her slow being the best in the game right now. She doesn't need other module

[@darukaru]

I don’t see them doing Liberator modules anytime soon, unless they release a new member of the class. Both Uncle and Tequila are great as is

[@John-el5sv]

SA will likely be better now than mlynar in cases of 1) more minor enemies being defeated 2) having sp speeding teammates like stainless or/and ptilopsis 3) Sp recovery buffs like in SSS or IS 4) invisible enemies (even better now, especially stationary/ flying and tanky invisible enemies)

[@KrazyBean14]

That's a very good point about SP recovery.

[@schmushschroom3873]

Some of his weaknesses still remain, like how fragile SA is and how much his cost skyrocketed when doing redeploy. But yeah, at least their damage and their niche pros/cons are comparable now. Now, to fix Phantom...

[@John-el5sv]

@@schmushschroom3873 SA being fragile while using S3 can easily be resolved by putting someone on front of him to tank, e.g. Gavial, specter/ specter alter with S2 heliddrop etc. if required. You can just keep him in one place, but if you want to redeploy him, his cost is still bearable tbh. There are a number of low ops videos I've seen that involved helidropping SA, Surtr etc. Its bearable because they do not have reduced redeploy times.

[@galeria_m]

​@schmushschroom3873 HA! Phantom??? getting fixed??? that idiot has got no more to say!!! (dont give me hope please)

[@kushalmazumder6953]

​@@John-el5sv if you have need this much set up to cover for his weaknesses then Mlynar will be better in most scenarios

[@Quote3232]

People are overlooking how SA shares a deploy slot with ops like Texas and yato while mlynar takes up the deploy slot the entire time. If you’re short on deploy slots, you’re not comparing mlynar to SA but mlynar to SA + Texas + anything else you’re rotating in that last slot.

[@Hurricane047]

I have never used SA, what do you mean by shared slot? Is it because SA is used mostly as a helidrop rather than a unit you keep on the field?

[@Quote3232]

Yeah. Redeploying lets him use his s3 sooner than if you had left him on the field and waited for natural sp regen. Plus he has a talent that reduce redeploy timers, so he makes the ops you helidrop stronger as well.

[@littlelw319]

and another nuke to be pair with him(most likely Surtr) to be a take physical damage in front/around 8 tiles of him

[@leonidesbabanto1585]

@@Hurricane047 yeah, SA is just plopped down, use S3 and retreat when he's done. That means that unlike Mlynar he can be substituted with other ops like Texas or Yato once he's on downtime, which is a utility that really swings it into SA's favor. SA also has invis reveal

[@straypaper]

Well since I don't have Texas ir Yato, it's really just SA vs Mlynar for me

[@Vanaris.]

basically Mlynar still outperforms SA, unless a lot of trash enemies die by his hand 1:25 IS-EX-6, the only one where SA did better

[@stevanustrionanda6397]

Yeah, Mlynar damage dropped to 1000s while Silverash maintained his original damage.

[@swift-pawedteif386]

But now silverash’s utility has gone way up. That redeployment is actually spicy now. I usually hate/loathe “use em both” but In this case you actually have to similar damage designs with completely different playstyle. Defense, utility, block, range,rdt, invis reveal, taunt. These operates have enough things that don’t overlap now. Wonderful stuff

[@prd6617]

also for helidrop purpose, SA have more edge here since he only need few second for S3 ready while mylnar need 40 sec after being deployed to get full atk stack.

[@AverageInternetUserBeing]

Great video. I am still mlynar-less so it helps knowing silverash can close the gap in DPS a bit better, it is way better than how sad it was pre module.

[@Eclin]

pretty impressive. Taking into account his other utility Silverash is still a great operator imo

[@virgondust]

He was never bad. It's just that some people see big read number when mlynar activates skill and declare Silverash trash cause "not enough damage"

[@fear3bk]

@@virgondust I mean are they wrong? You don't gotta worry about anything if the enemy is dead lol.

[@ReWhiteout]

I'm convinced the helidropped Mlynar can't outperform SA now.

[@Lukashoffmann94]

Only if the heli drop is completely safe. SA just has no tankiness.

[@velvetra29]

Thank you for these module comparisons. Boys, sub to our guy here!

[@witherwind33]

Recent DOS proved SA and Mlynar can be used together in alternate cycles. Both will still be relevant for the most crazy stage Arknights can produce...

[@しゃるる-b7m]

賃金斬の半銀斬だった真銀斬がモジュールのおかげで0.8銀斬くらいになってる……

[@marielcarey4288]

LORD MODULES OP WE ARE SO BACK -IN 6 MONTHS-

[@not_unknown9733]

Nice can’t wait for the mylnar module!

[@samuelshen3071]

actually comparable with slightly less damage but more utility. Great module

[@gamersenpai7667]

Mlynar be like I don't need any module just a newspaper

[@jemil_l]

Lord's module made SA viable for anyone that don't have Mlynar

[@JAzure-hk1sx]

Huh, damage wise, it's actually nearing Mlynar level, i guess around 70-85%ish? but damage aside, He basically became ground eyja helidrop with 60-70'sec skill downtime no? i mean, it can be even faster if ptilopsis was deployed or in her range, but considering he can be deployed to reach some tricky tiles or to snipe or weaken some high value target with that +15% damage to elites, it's quite an upgrade. but yeah, still powercreeped in most cases, but hey, at least he's fitting better to current state of the game with this module.

[@galeria_m]

the last statement is a really good one. he's still powercrept but atleast now he can keep up.

[@YukiKazami]

I think the damage is close enough, especially since there are edge cases where his can actually be notably better, makes a solid case that they're both at least playing in the same ballpark of power level now

[@kinokot4n]

silverash's glowup is actually insane holy shit? so proud of him!!!!!!!

[@ThatHamiltonCat]

I await a Qiubai module comparison with great eagerness.

[@galeria_m]

lets stop hoping, everyone hates qiu and im mad about it. hg did her dirty imo, now she needs even more support but i guess she functions crazy well with it now, probably even surpassing Surtr in arts damage when the enemy is both slowed and bound. well, that's all hopium but i don't really use her for that kinda burst so I'm hoping for her second module

[@ThatHamiltonCat]

@@galeria_m I wish they had given her a chance to recover skill points when attacking bound enemies. That would’ve helped with her biggest issue: her rotation. But oh well. Maybe she powercreeps Ethan’s bind niche with her second module.

[@mysteryofn2955]

​@@galeria_mmakes me sad too, she has one of the best character designs among all guards. Justice for her.

[@hauntan]

we are so back🔥🔥

[@zackunai5178]

Broh you make a Comparasion of Quabai Module ? Nobody love QB

[@galeria_m]

i know your feeling. fucking hell im sad. im sad about her module too, it doesnt look like it has a big impact................. please cook on her second module instead

[@dalgona4819]

Qiubai is loved! It's just unfortunate because it's hard to shine in a class where there are so many almighty characters already. Silverash never truly lost relevance because he's already powerful just by existing in the team. Thorns is like a ground sniper while Lappland is known as the crazy one with the best Silence shtick. And outside of the Lords we got Mlynar and Surtr being the beeg damage characters.

[@galeria_m]

@dalgona4819 shes not, please dont sugatcoat her situation for us...... this is a tragedy and im about to cry

[@Behwa-b5r]

Damage is much closer than I thought thanks for the show case. Any Chance of doing Lappy and frostleaf next?

[@smallphi]

I could showcase Lappland, but I'm not sure how to go about it. She's not really a damage dealer, so just a damage comparison might be a poor showcase. I'm open to suggestions. Frostleaf is a bit unlikely at the moment...

[@SoilworkWT]

@@smallphi Her dmg got bumped quite a lot purely form aspd on her module and some attack on top of it. Probably best its just some basic showcase against tanky enemy before and after and thats it ngl. I doubt showcasing her fragile only on attacks is worth doing, since fragile as effect its just pretty easy to understand which makes showcase a bit pointless.

[@muune4803]

Now I can say I have Młynar at home😂

[@Yammatti]

I can't wait to use em together One honse to hug and a cat to pet

[@nd4864]

Daddy’s back!!

[@polackdyn]

As always lets remember: why not both. And , truly, these two together are destruction incarnate. You can also get the same effect with just Walter but oh well.

[@orarion12]

having two Mlynars now is not a dream

[@Yakshaaa]

Ahh yess lucky me to be having both

[@doktahexe9209]

While the damage is clearly favoring Mlynar, Silverash has a bit more utility to him such as his passive damage buff and b3ing able to see invisible enemies

[@AshGreninjagoat]

The day mlynar gets a module is the day everyone wants to get him

[@inoob26]

Helidrop is back on the menu boys!

[@licht4401]

Wait for Mlynar module came out and we back in bussiness again😎

[@kraney195]

Please do a Vigil module showcase next since no one hadn't done it as far i see

[@diwucalberich462]

Seeing how strong wisadel is i expect now they don't mind creating more powerful ops.. i hope Mlynar will get a module

[@OssaTM]

Will you do à Showcase for Qiubai's module too ?

[@smallphi]

I don't have Qiubai and I'm having a hard time finding her without module on support, while I have a friend with the module. If I find her without module and they accept my friend request, I'll try to make a showcase, but no promises. Update: got the module-less S3 Qiubai. I might make a video in the next days. If you want to see something in particular, tell me below.

[@jkorok6357]

​@@smallphi you could try and do the comparison from a global account. Though I guess you would need someone hlep with that.

[@benzosk2604]

Try asking viewers for account, you can't really steal or damage anything in AK when you share your id with others.

[@NikkiTheViolist]

@@smallphi I know you said you already found a no-module Qiubai, but if this happens again in the future you could take a support unit in Integrated Strategies and add/remove the module yourself. (Of course, that has the problem that IS has in-built buffs and level layout/recruit tickets/etc are randomized, but...)

[@tteqhu]

@@NikkiTheViolist you can decline items, it just might be time consuming to test

[@risu4105]

Mylnar had enough horsepower to put those sh- to the ground

[@DarronGA]

I mean considering that after skill SA can actually still BLOCK yeah I'd say this is fair

[@simplythecat4068]

Let's not forget that Mlynar is cheating with his little bit of true damage while SA has to fight through the mobs armor with pure physical.

[@corpsetalking]

he has 10% arts from module

[@swift-pawedteif386]

🤦‍♂️

[@prd6617]

he also cheating getting 200% atk buff from trait after idling for 40 second

[@tridentgreen3346]

Honestly team support wise SA>Mylnar any day. He's a helidrop king now that still has potential as a blocker off skill.

[@naru2k4]

Ah SA gains the edge with helidrop and immediate activation nice

[@vincentdehaldolf1636]

Ah yes, CC#8 music

[@etgamer16]

Qiubai Mod Comparison Next?

[@ttd06]

i'm not have Mlynar but now Silver Ash is my Mlynar at home

[@ismailabdulq1492]

Everyone on SA side will forget about his Def reduction draw back on her S3 LOL

[@pitwandesu2459]

Use both if youre lazy to think

[@カレールー-z4m]

え、モジュールでむっちゃ強くなってない？ シルバーアッシュにはムリナールにはない強みはいくらでもあると言っても、やはり火力はあればあるほどいいので嬉しい

[@reversal3628]

He's much better and that's all the matter.

[@たこかみっち]

英語わからないんですがムリナールは無凸ですか？

[@littlelw319]

ムリナールのダメージの方がたかいです、でもシルヴァアシュープラスモジュールレヴェル3が良いキャラなります。 日本語下手なら本当にすみません

[@水草-q9j]

無凸なんじゃないと思うんだけどな

[@Dzukill-jp]

​@@littlelw319He is asking about potentials of both.

[@Dzukill-jp]

投稿者に聞いたら無凸らしいです

[@たこかみっち]

@@Dzukill-jp ありがとうございます！

[@dragichav2810]

I wanted 20% or more global on all ops reduced reploy timer but this is also good😮

[@Wx78zZ]

Oml he's on par with him now

[@swift-pawedteif386]

All right time for the liberator guard module

[@Keyboard-b3b]

Hi pretty new but this module for sa is available in global already? I have him but unbuilt. If he has this module already i might build him since no mlynar. Thanks

[@smallphi]

The module was released on the CN server at the start of May. You can expect it to come to global around November, I believe.

[@Keyboard-b3b]

@@smallphi oh still a long wait from niw i guess i can always just borrow a mlynar if need one thanks alot

[@socrates1796]

SA still usable because of those eeagle eye talent

[@mysteryofn2955]

Not bad at all! Now waiting for Qiubai module showcase. :)

[@ANTSPlantation]

Imagine a mlynar with module 💀

[@fazbaral-falah1486]

Could just use both of them to cause the schwingest schwing in AK history.

[@ronicaio65]

cant wait mlynar with module xd

[@daafaluqman3444]

People forget that mlynar sp is low, so i think mlynar is still better dps wise. But im happy that my SA is stronger now

[@dragichav2810]

I think no one forgets that lmao 😂 Also not low for sure. Medium YEP. Low would be like what 30 ir less or even 25 or less.

[@kiuhh1118]

Just wait till mlynar gets his module

[@justrandompeople8420]

Mlynar still better imo, Able to tank range attack and deal more dmg Tho, for wave clearing silver ash are better but right now we didn't lack wave clearing operator that are better than silver ash And current stage mostly are gimmick-boss and not Small mobs quantity+boss like old time

[@Another_Dusk]

SA tail is geetting fluffier with this skin

[@cupcake5478]

That's huge.

[@gedepriawan1116]

you should add SA module + AAK drugs

[@x16miracle]

Pre module silverash just looked sad

[@sebby5060]

Qiubai module pls!

[@ZuraJura]

Now give Mlynar a module

[@yutaro7576]

Showcase module qiubai

[@NoName-dm1vs]

Ill still use sa for hoards

[@Phat_trick910]

Mlynar is better in power Silverash is better in wider range, revealing camouflage

[@MainPlots]

Just bring degenbrecher with module lvl3

[@lonlonm1lk]

Silverbros...

[@tanphamnhat969]

True Glorious Unbrilliant Silver Slash

[@vuototetro0]

balanced vs unbalanced

[@ElizabethJohnson-x2l]

Perry Ford

[@galeria_m]

im still mad at him so no

[@Ak4set]

2 Mlynars

[@metalslug3fan]

they can be kissing

[@kyarumomochi5146]

Mlynar wins total damage, dph, dps, cycling, cost and survivability wise. SA just became usable on new content, he doesnt compete with mlynar any better

[@thejuggernight1406]

I mean it is interesting first skill if you have to use it off of cooldown SA should just out preform by a significant amount. he now actually has helidrop over mlynar. I mean overall mlynar is better if you factor in power creep the enemies are gonna get later down the line (I am making the assumption that enemies get even harder) where the full mlynar damage will matter. in SSS SA should just be better for example. there are edge cases outside of FRD stall where SA outperforms mlynar now. yes mlynar is the overall better unit

[@kyarumomochi5146]

@@thejuggernight1406 Ur right on this. Mlynar deals less dph than SA on helidrop so SA wins over that matter finally now. Eh im glad either way, SA is better now lol

[@Khroniclas]

This is why I am not getting Silverash module, but am considering to get Thorns' module.

[@frauflaw100edibleorganicco9]

Back then trash, now barely usable lol. Like did u guys forgot that he has - def on s3? Now he also compete for slot with fast redeploy too such as yato alter & texalt Both of them have s3 that help them do damage, yato with immunity on s3 & texalt's stun to help her survive when dealing dmg. SA's will die with his - def. Both of them also has much faster redeployment too, giving them more chance to activate their skill Not even comparable to mlynar's placement too. I personally always pair him with reed alter & just drop mlynar in the middle of enemy. Most of the time he survive, with his tankiness. Tanky guard that can tank ranged atk & having high burst with short cycle is overpowered for a reason Well at least he can compete with mlynar if he need to activate his skill fast & too many trash mob

[@INFM424]

even with module Silverash is still dogshit compared to mlynar

[@jeanhavoc8438]

Nuh blud is washed