Armies and Tactics: Oblique Order

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Kings and Generals

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@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Let us know which tactics, strategies, military maxims etc. you would like to cover in future. :-) Also, support us via patreon, every single dollar is essential in making our production sustainable: www.patreon.com/kingsandgenerals :-)
@Bejunckt
@Bejunckt 6 жыл бұрын
mmm ... maybe the Tercios formation, an elite infantry that persisted two centuries ;)
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Tercios will get a separate series, whenever we reach that period. :-)
@derekdexter7268
@derekdexter7268 6 жыл бұрын
It isn't a tactics topic but i would love to see a video on the battle of Tours (a.k.a. the battle of poitiers) which in my opinion was one of the most influential battles in history and utterly decided the fate of europe. I would also like to here what you think would have happened if the Frankish King Charles Martel would have been defeated by Emir Abdul Rahman Al Ghafiqi and the impact I would have had in Europe as a whole?
@derekdexter7268
@derekdexter7268 6 жыл бұрын
Or possibly something like the battle of Alesia?
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Will consider. :-)
@socrates5806
@socrates5806 6 жыл бұрын
-Studies military history -Can't win a single multiplayer batte in Total War -Resorts to Paradox games
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Have you tried being a philosopher? :-)
@shinsenshogun900
@shinsenshogun900 6 жыл бұрын
Socrates you need Diogenes
@stormyprawn
@stormyprawn 5 жыл бұрын
Same here I'm just terrible at total war even if I watch loads of these😂 lol
@eniotanaka2229
@eniotanaka2229 5 жыл бұрын
I am also very bad at rome
@kenrickwatene3036
@kenrickwatene3036 5 жыл бұрын
@@fillprg9242 Oh god you're really terrible if you failed the tutorials. Lol! Just saying............
@Hamza-tq7dh
@Hamza-tq7dh 6 жыл бұрын
i am watching this in case i had an army
@durkburk4801
@durkburk4801 6 жыл бұрын
*insert random shitty mobile game about controlling an army*
@nomooon
@nomooon 6 жыл бұрын
haha you and what army :)
@imperatorpalpatine1351
@imperatorpalpatine1351 6 жыл бұрын
my clone army
@durkburk4801
@durkburk4801 6 жыл бұрын
It's treason then.
@nomooon
@nomooon 6 жыл бұрын
nofacesherlock holmes read it in emperor's voice
@petopetteri178
@petopetteri178 5 жыл бұрын
Epaminondas was all around badass! Invincible military leader, olympic champion wrestler, excellent hoplite soldier, civil leader, orator and pythagoran philsopher. Greatest of greeks any time like Cicero later said. Amazing character!
@Zx1234-v6r
@Zx1234-v6r 4 ай бұрын
Thank you !*
@papazoulou9326
@papazoulou9326 6 жыл бұрын
Here are my two cents about the Oblique Order used by Frederic and why it "usually" worked with him. First of all, the army. A manoeuver like the Oblique Order requires a very disciplined army, who was drilled a lot and who obeyed every order. The oblique orders would allow Frederic to cover his retreat with the troops left behind (since only his right flank would be lost) or send the said reserves to reinforce the right flank and push the enemy to the breaking point. He was lucky, as he inherited a powerful and brand new army from his father, the Sergeant-King, wich really was the strong point of an otherwise quite poor state such as Prussia. During an oblique-order type of attack, the "refused wing" (the one that doesn't attack or whatever you call it in english) must be able to act as soon as possible,to cover the retreat or attack the enemy. Either way, the enemy must be blocked in order to succeed. Secondly, your opponent must stay put, and in order to achieve that you need to use the terrain to your advantage. The other army won't move to support its left/right flank if he doesn't see you coming. It takes time to reform 30 000 men in a 5 kilometers wide and uneven field, time you'll have to shove him out of important positions. If you don't know the terrain you're gonna use, you're screwed. You need to precisely know how it looks like, not only in terms of heights to cover your troops but also on the ground (is it dry or wet, will it stay still enough to bring reinforcments even after 30 000 men and horses/cannons went through it, just think a football field before and after the game and multiply it by 3000). And remember, maps are really rare at the time, especially the precise ones, so you need to use your light cavalry efficiently, otherwise you're blind and exposed to bad surpsies, wich can cause a panic and mass rout. Frederik knew the terrain at Leuthen, that's why his oblique attack worked there. Let's look at the failures now, especially at Kunerdsorf. He had already suffered a defeat at Kolin, but Kunersdorf is a complete rout. He got cocky, and sent his army on a oblique attack, at night in the middle of August (very, very hot) through a forest (no flashlights), in order to end up in marshes and have to change once more his troops organisation in the morning. So he basically attacked then a strong russian position with a winded army. Nothing could have been worse.
@markfang433
@markfang433 6 жыл бұрын
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@papazoulou9326
@papazoulou9326 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great remark, it is well appreciated.
@cpmenninga
@cpmenninga 5 жыл бұрын
The quality of the enemy also plays a part. A ponderous undisciplined force is obviously more vulnerable. The Austrians did develop countermeasures to these tactics.
@jordank1489
@jordank1489 6 жыл бұрын
I've been watching your videos for a while and just wanted to say how fantastic they are. I'm very interested in military history, especially ancient and medieval battle tactics, so this new series is exactly what I look for. Plus, my Total War dominance has been incredible thanks to your detailed accounts of decisive battles!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I am happy that they are helpful. :-)
@destroyer0685
@destroyer0685 6 жыл бұрын
I am always impressed by this series. But I leave the audience with some euphemisms: No plan survives contact Work the plan but you are not married to the plan The enemy gets a voice and a vote The enemy doesn't care what you are going to do it only worries what it is going to do. Never stop the enemy when they are making a mistake.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Those military maxims are always true :-)
@Nicholas-kn9eb
@Nicholas-kn9eb 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know how anyone can dislike your videos! You guys bring back the old history channel vibe BUT with way better quality! And that smooth voice!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Enemies, enemies everywhere. :-) Thank you very much. We want to do more and to do it better. :-)
@DarkBuddhist
@DarkBuddhist 6 жыл бұрын
You know a good day is inevitable when these talented guys post a new video
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that. Every Thursday and Sunday. :-)
@DarkBuddhist
@DarkBuddhist 6 жыл бұрын
Cause they are so goooooooood
@tylermorrison420
@tylermorrison420 2 жыл бұрын
This is One of the top ten KZbin channels.
@gianlucaborg195
@gianlucaborg195 6 жыл бұрын
Man I just love these videos! I won't mention anything in particular that stood out, lest I end up dismissing or not giving the required praise or merit from the rest of the video. This video was near true perfection!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Always appreciate your feedback! Starting a new format is always stressful. :-)
@Kiodael
@Kiodael 6 жыл бұрын
It's a very good idea to link your content like that, for sure it makes the whole channel even more relevant!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :-)
@cagoenlaleche
@cagoenlaleche 6 жыл бұрын
This channel keeps getting better and better.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@battlesoftheancients
@battlesoftheancients 6 жыл бұрын
Hmm that Philip II of Macedon sounds interesting ;)
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Never heard of him.
@Andreych95
@Andreych95 6 жыл бұрын
Number one is MAH BOI Caesar :v
@Edax_Royeaux
@Edax_Royeaux 6 жыл бұрын
He's famous for inventing a really long pointy stick. Few before him had dared to dream that a stick could be so long and so pointy.
@Andreych95
@Andreych95 6 жыл бұрын
ltflak It pains me that you are so accurate, he also taught his horsemen to be less shitty
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
But failed to make his son less bratty.
@Hostility1812
@Hostility1812 6 жыл бұрын
Good job on yet another great video! Sometimes it’s new and crazy ideas that determine the battle as seen here.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, the generals need to be innovative. :-)
@suntzu7673
@suntzu7673 6 жыл бұрын
I am now going to use Oblique Order in my Total War games. Imagine just a bunch of those Norse raiders shredding one side to a crisp!!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Remember, it is all about the balance. :-)
@Aerennasia
@Aerennasia Жыл бұрын
That feeling remained when you did not finish school, but English was already useful to you. Thank you very much for the information!
@chancetempleton3829
@chancetempleton3829 6 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying these more in depth videos on soldiers and tactics. Definitely didn't get this kind of stuff in History class!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
There will be more. :-) Don't be hard on the teachers, they have much less time than we do.
@matthewkuchinski1769
@matthewkuchinski1769 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! I really like how you brought up Epaminondas, one of history's greatest generals. His decision to create the refused flank is one of the most important military tactics to have ever existed, as it helped determine the Battles of Bunker Hill and Gettysburg, along with various other engagements.
@ahmedharris7148
@ahmedharris7148 6 жыл бұрын
Thank god youtube channels like this exist. I was recently scrolling through the History Channel and could not believe how dumbed down that channel has become.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much :-)
@kurthamm7734
@kurthamm7734 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. I read about this tactic a few years ago but never really understood it. Glad to see someone finally make a video explaining it. Thanks.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
More on the way!
@r0b0saurusrex80
@r0b0saurusrex80 6 жыл бұрын
The Music you paired with this video is great. Please continue to use it... Love this video series and keep them coming!! Looking forward to the Philip The Great series.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
We will, thank you! :-)
@HistoryHouseProductions
@HistoryHouseProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Nice job! A video on Chinese tactics could be cool. Get us all hyped up for Three Kingdoms.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
There will be something prior to the Three Kingdoms. :-)
@Ar4g0rno
@Ar4g0rno 6 жыл бұрын
Kings and Generals with the new Total War three kingdoms?
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, probably.
@nomooon
@nomooon 6 жыл бұрын
it's about time some famous Chinese battles are covered, land of the Art of War needs some love.
@heavenwatcher100
@heavenwatcher100 6 жыл бұрын
I am Chinese. I think the western counterparts did better in army especially infantry formation and positioning while we benefited more from tactics like luring and trapping the opponents and punish them with superior fire and maneuvering from calvaries equipped with crossbows and later primitive rockets propelled by gunpowders. In terms of rigid formation and drilling of the army, there is still a lot to learn for our ancestors from Spartans/Roman legions if they ever had a chance to encounter them.
@invaaalid5190
@invaaalid5190 6 жыл бұрын
Love this series!!! Keep it up!!!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
More on the way!
@TheAtmosfear7
@TheAtmosfear7 2 жыл бұрын
French classical author Montaigne cited Epaminondas as among the 3 greatest men to have lived. His simple, yet incredibly smart and revolutionary tactic changed the course of History and ended Spartan hegemony over Greece in favor of a Theban one.
@lukezuzga6460
@lukezuzga6460 6 жыл бұрын
That was fantastic, its crazy how far tactics can change History. I especially loved how it was shown that this tactic proved worthy many years later. Then again I can listen to Devin read an encyclopedia! Great work guys, one of my favs for Thursdays!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. :-) starting new series is always stressful. :-)
@lukezuzga6460
@lukezuzga6460 6 жыл бұрын
Kings and Generals You guys nail em pretty good. This channel is the one I watch as soon as I can. Thanks guys!
@shinsenshogun900
@shinsenshogun900 6 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to vote for a new NLP series guys! You rock on having Devin explain tactics in this channel, and I also can't wait for new content, KnG!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
We are happy that Devin is narrating our videos, he is great. :-)
@satoryvivseeker
@satoryvivseeker 2 жыл бұрын
Always insightful.
@theromanorder
@theromanorder 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this old style was so cool
@tcc5750
@tcc5750 6 жыл бұрын
Such a great video, loved seeing Frederick the Great once again :).
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, planning more on Frederick! :-)
6 жыл бұрын
Great video!!!! I sent one of your videos to my teacher because it was so good!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! What did he say? :-)
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Good, I am happy to hear that. :-)
@judenorbz500
@judenorbz500 6 жыл бұрын
I love history as well as your voice it's like watching an ASMR history.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Don't sleep. :-)
@claudiubotezatu9182
@claudiubotezatu9182 6 жыл бұрын
Very good videos. Keep up the good work. You are doing the world a big service here
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! :-)
@kamilszadkowski8864
@kamilszadkowski8864 6 жыл бұрын
Great as always. I was kinda hoping for a mention of Battle of Kircholm as a variation of the oblique order (old polish order). But since you asked for suggestions, maybe you could cover the Hannibal's Cannae maneuver and how later commanders tried to copy/use it?
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
That is a good topic! Will consider it. :-)
@doomdrake123
@doomdrake123 6 жыл бұрын
Kings and Generals Consider it? It was the first of few examples how a numerical inferior army can encircle a superior force! Also Hannibal was a crap diplomat, but a virtuose on the battlefield. Cannae was only possible because of his previous battles where he used the natural terraine to ambush the romans, this led to the decision of the roman consul to deploy the army in deep ranks, fearing an attack from the left.
@kamilszadkowski8864
@kamilszadkowski8864 6 жыл бұрын
+Kings and Generals Hey BTW did you ever consider to create your own forum dedicated to your channel, videos, and history in general? It would be great "place" for the community and you to meet, figuratively speaking.
@doomdrake123
@doomdrake123 6 жыл бұрын
It would be great, although the comments section serve as such right now. Sadly these kind of comments are mostly drawned by - "first" shit and congratulations. The folks running the channel do deserve every bit of praise but I would love more discussion.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Kamil, that is a good idea, we would love to do that, as it would promote a more in-depth, thoughtful debate. The problem is, we will get fewer comments here, and KZbin will punish us for that. But, that is definitely a plan for future.
@AJRArcade
@AJRArcade 6 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy this content, very glad I stumbled on this channel!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard! :-)
@christermi
@christermi 6 жыл бұрын
You are the best ! Not even I ( as a Greek ) didn't know many things covered in this video . Just amazing ! :-)
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. :-) I consider myself an honorary Greek. :-)
@bg-rh8et
@bg-rh8et 6 жыл бұрын
its great how you guys have so many plans for the future
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
That is not even the half of it, we have literally a few hundred ideas for future videos, and there is always more :-)
@suntzu7673
@suntzu7673 6 жыл бұрын
Yet again another quality video. Good Job!!!!!!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! :-)
@_raresis5405
@_raresis5405 6 жыл бұрын
Good work!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jaythompson5102
@jaythompson5102 6 жыл бұрын
Just awesome as always guys. Some ideas for the future that I think would make a great story but are covered a bit less: Admiral Yi's exploits in Korea. The fourth Anglo-Mysore war. Tipu Sultan & the first firing of rockets in battle, what more can you ask for? Battle of Morgarten due to the tactical changes it ushered in.
@SprikSprak
@SprikSprak Жыл бұрын
Worth pointing out that phalanx drift was why the place on the right was traditionally taken up by the king and his guard as the place of honour. They were the best troops and so much more likely to arrest it
@MaxentiusFrankius
@MaxentiusFrankius 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Video! Splendid work once again
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! :-)
@davidbrelu-brelu7118
@davidbrelu-brelu7118 6 жыл бұрын
This video is simply phenomenal
@KeithShuler
@KeithShuler 6 жыл бұрын
Great job guys! Thanks for making my work day more interesting!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ArtanisOwns
@ArtanisOwns 6 жыл бұрын
cool video! i really really like the equivalence between different historical periods' warfare
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, until the Modern Warfare completely changed everything, the warfare was moving in waves, from the rigid to mobile formations.
@TazbowGMV
@TazbowGMV 6 жыл бұрын
What you all are doing is great. I know you don't do it for free but still, thanks for your work! Love the use of Total War games to supplement each lesson.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, we plan more and better content. :-)
@pmc609
@pmc609 6 жыл бұрын
Attacking from a defensive position and Naval battle tactics would be great to see !
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, many things are planned for this sub-series.
@Wheedlinglemur
@Wheedlinglemur 6 жыл бұрын
Nice new intro! :) I was very pleasantly caught off guard by it
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it. :-)
@etienneboussange4357
@etienneboussange4357 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as usual ! I agree with all the informations you gave about the greek warfare in here :) can't wait to see what you will show us about Philip II, you will have lots to say. As my main research subject I appreciate the fact you will actually talk about this king.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The scripts look great. :-)
@robbiegallagher786
@robbiegallagher786 6 жыл бұрын
this is my favorite video no gaming channel i look forward to this every Thursday keep up the great work i can not offer money but i still wanted u to know u guys are awesome :)
@FlashPointHx
@FlashPointHx 6 жыл бұрын
Lovely video as always - it seems like you have a different narrator on this one. I'm curious - is there a sound bank that you use for sound effects?
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
It is Devin - our usual narrator. Regarding the sounds, we use epidemicsound.
@vinodvarghese78
@vinodvarghese78 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting video and I think the tactic using oblique order will be more effective if one flank is well protected by natural obstacles just like how Julius Ceasar used against Pompey at the Battle of Pharsalus.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
That is a good point, we will talk about it in future. :-)
@umaransari9765
@umaransari9765 6 жыл бұрын
Eid mubarak in advance for those who will celebrate Eid tomorrow
@thegrayyernaut
@thegrayyernaut 6 жыл бұрын
Yes! Finally, somebody pronounced the damn thing Hop-li-tey! I played Rome and Rome II and the Hoplites' cries are always "Hop-li-teys", but I didn't find any history channels to pronounce them that way. I'm not saying that the English pronunciation is wrong, the Greek way just sounds more satisfying for me for some reasons xD
@maddocpax788
@maddocpax788 4 жыл бұрын
Hoplitey isn't it.
@TR_Conqueror
@TR_Conqueror 6 жыл бұрын
Lovely comparisions, very nice video. More tactics videos!!!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, there will be more. :-)
@adrianbrunner8
@adrianbrunner8 6 жыл бұрын
Really interesting, good work!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! :-)
@adrianbrunner8
@adrianbrunner8 6 жыл бұрын
Kings and Generals ;-)
@Chidy398
@Chidy398 6 жыл бұрын
As a fan of history as well as strategy games (currently total war warhammer 2 lol) I love these strategy videos. I really like seeing the same tactics used in varied circumstances and time periods, as it shows better how the tactic can be used in a variety if situations. I think I would just like to see a little more emphasis on that
@aidabagirova4933
@aidabagirova4933 6 жыл бұрын
This is already a higher level. In order to make such videos, you need to know the world history very well. Greetings, K&G!!!!
@mikloshoffer282
@mikloshoffer282 4 жыл бұрын
Very well, for our music project we will be doing a song on Pelopidas - the right-hand man of Epaminondas.
@SuperAerie
@SuperAerie 6 жыл бұрын
This kinda shows how history is important to learn from and exploit to ones advantage. Alot of things stays the same also in warfare even if equipment changes and distances get bigger.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
That is true. I guess, the modern warfare changed it, but still, some of the ideas moved from the realm of tactics to the strategy, hence, even the outdated ideas like Oblique Order are still learned in the military schools.
@Manos_Plakias
@Manos_Plakias 6 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video! Nice!!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! :-)
@Manos_Plakias
@Manos_Plakias 6 жыл бұрын
Your team make great job! I'm waiting for Philip's tactics and strategy video you mention! :)
@Miamcoline
@Miamcoline 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing nuanced stuff once again!
@lucasyago3602
@lucasyago3602 6 жыл бұрын
A great work as always
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@raphaelalexandreyensen6291
@raphaelalexandreyensen6291 5 жыл бұрын
I've been using that tactic for a while in total war but never knew it's name thank you
@nantzstein3311
@nantzstein3311 6 жыл бұрын
NOW THIS IS WHAT AM TALKING ABOUT. Great as usual *Kings and Generals*
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, there will be more! :-)
@alighahremani3656
@alighahremani3656 6 жыл бұрын
you know there are some very exciting moments in persian history:battle of carrhae,invasion of egypt,campagins of safavid empire,multiple canpagins of Nader shah including the invasion of india and battle of karnal.you could cover these. but anyway you're doing great. thank u so much.
@christermi
@christermi 6 жыл бұрын
1:11 also known as the Corinthian war .....The Spartans were forced to retreat from Minor Asia , where they were fighting the Persians and looting the rich province of Lydia . They basically fought against the second Athenian Alliance and a lot of their former allies , who decided to change sides . The Persians did give money to Athens specifically , so that they could rebuild their walls , which were brought down by the Spartans after the Peloponnesian war was over . The Corinthian war ended with a treaty that recognised the subjugation of Ionia by the Persians .
@rarapost6146
@rarapost6146 3 жыл бұрын
I needed this for my total warhammer playthrough
@VladTevez
@VladTevez 6 жыл бұрын
Well done again!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@emperordemetrius3832
@emperordemetrius3832 6 жыл бұрын
το oblique order μεταφραζεται σε ;
@VladTevez
@VladTevez 6 жыл бұрын
Emperor Demetrius Ακριβώς!
@ThroatSore
@ThroatSore 5 жыл бұрын
Great idea for a series.
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I should remember this video in the future. My thanks to those who made this video a reality.
@akramkarim3780
@akramkarim3780 6 жыл бұрын
good video , the oblique formation is a variation of the wedge formation . in the wedge the majority of the army is in the middle not in one of the flanks . the wedge is more used in cavalry" the macedonians are the first who used it " but it can be used in infantry
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
No, it is not a variation of the wedge. In oblique order, you refuse both the center and one of the flanks.
@akramkarim3780
@akramkarim3780 6 жыл бұрын
yes i know . but they have the same logic , mass your best troops in one side "one of the flanks in the oblique formation or the middle in the wedge" to break the enemy at that point anyway good video
@12mkamran
@12mkamran 6 жыл бұрын
Love your channel ! 😍
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jeremyporter4530
@jeremyporter4530 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice job. The Spartan battle was very interesting because it showed their lack of flexibility.They could only march head on? They could have blunted the attack by simply orienting the phalanx to march diagonally across the field and then advance as they always did. This would have forced the extra large phalanx to respond to a powerful 2 sided attack.It is a warning to not be too married to one tactic.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, for all their glory, the Spartans were too conservative for their own good.
@KHK001
@KHK001 6 жыл бұрын
Nice work :) again !!!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! :-)
@KillerBPlaying
@KillerBPlaying 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you !! Keep the great work
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@Pipiopy
@Pipiopy 6 жыл бұрын
those teachings are reserved
@j.l.61
@j.l.61 6 жыл бұрын
This was great! keep it up!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
We will, thank you!
@tedted2138
@tedted2138 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I liked the previous intro better though
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Which one? :-)
@rubenkerobyan6891
@rubenkerobyan6891 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jonathanallard2128
@jonathanallard2128 6 жыл бұрын
I used it to great success in Empire or Napoleon Total War online. One of the few ways I know how to attack a position.
@jakamazi6969
@jakamazi6969 6 жыл бұрын
Great video like always
@kingoftherise2286
@kingoftherise2286 6 жыл бұрын
We want kings and generals to cover the blitzkrieg tactics
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
We? :-)
@kingoftherise2286
@kingoftherise2286 6 жыл бұрын
Kings and Generals yes me and my brother always watch your videos😀
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Ok, that is a "we". :-)
@kingoftherise2286
@kingoftherise2286 6 жыл бұрын
Kings and Generals hahahaha LOL:)
@abderrezakghozlane4427
@abderrezakghozlane4427 6 жыл бұрын
i join the "we"
@ericcloud1023
@ericcloud1023 2 жыл бұрын
absolutely brilliant! it's a miniaturized ancient variable of Napoleon's favored tactic of "Defeat in detail" smash the most elite, lynch-pin unit/units that are the metaphorical heart & literal leaders of an army & the rest will either flee, or be crippled edit: lmao I should have watched the whole video, you guys clearly saw the comparison to Napoleon as well. Well shit, I guess I'm not as observant and Brilliant as I thought lmao :/
@DanielLee_2304
@DanielLee_2304 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid, I really like this.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
More on the way!
@paladinbob1236
@paladinbob1236 6 жыл бұрын
I must admit to loving the battle of Leuctra, though the excellent fantasy read of "Lion of Macedon" by David Gemmel , which is a good read. But overall a good analysis of the battle tactics of the time , and Epaminondas was a bit of a military genius for his age , lifting thebes , until his demise later against Sparta. But ultimately the phalanx had the problem of discipline, for it was its discipline that kept it together , and kept It in the fighting , but the same discipline , prevented battlefield manvevoiurs . This was a thing of course , the romans would learn from , again making there own system of changes :D
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 6 жыл бұрын
paladinbob 123 the Spartans had great discipline and order, but Epaminondas literally crushed them with his huge formation with Thebes' own 300 leading the way. The cavalry also played its part, drawing a section of the Spartans to face another direction.
@paladinbob1236
@paladinbob1236 6 жыл бұрын
yeah ..I think in david gemmels book, he has the Spartans having over confidence in there own formation and thinning and elongating there hoplite line , ready to envelope the approaching line , only to have the mass of the Theban formation to smash into it. But despite the Spartan discipline it still couldn't contain the weight of troops that pushed against it [as hoplite combat is also a matter of pushing, similar to a scrum :d] ..but either way, Epaminondas was a military commander , who when he died , the Thebans couldn't replace , which lead to there decline :D
@bg-rh8et
@bg-rh8et 6 жыл бұрын
love your videos
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Kunumbah1
@Kunumbah1 6 жыл бұрын
Yes the guy with the awesome voice is back!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Never left, stop making that a thing.
@imperatorpalpatine1351
@imperatorpalpatine1351 6 жыл бұрын
interesting video I might use this.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Not for you. :-)
@RoronaDZoro
@RoronaDZoro 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome work you are awesome man
@johnathonnichols
@johnathonnichols 6 жыл бұрын
It's really odd that you released this video. Just yesterday I was thinking about the tactic of "refusing the right." You read my mind.
@fernandosfjr
@fernandosfjr 3 жыл бұрын
Hannibal tactics and strategies, please!
@dunebit1281
@dunebit1281 6 жыл бұрын
keep going bro ! thank you !
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
We will! :-)
@svasilop
@svasilop 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice description of Epaminondas’ strategy. I am eager to see about Philip and Alexander innovations. One comment though. The plural of phalanx is phalanges and not phalanxes. That from a Greek and a physician (finger bones are also called phalanges)
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, always happy to see a disciple of Hippocrates. :-) Both versions are acceptable: www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/phalanx
@uppal123g
@uppal123g 2 жыл бұрын
This was awsome.
@gaberobison680
@gaberobison680 3 жыл бұрын
I’m always really surprised by how hard people think drilling troops is. High schoolers literally learn to march :)
@StarAgateHD
@StarAgateHD 6 жыл бұрын
I like this!!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 6 жыл бұрын
:-)
@samiamrg7
@samiamrg7 3 жыл бұрын
This strategy is excellent against Total War AI’s, at least as long as their army is not cavalry-heavy. As soon as you break through one flank, you can easily just push down the line along the flank and the AI is not equipped to deal with it. Instead of using extra units, I like to use higher-quality units supported by extra ranged, artillery, or cavalry units to break one side and then use the strong melee unit and/or cavalry for the flanking attack.
@pancakes3250
@pancakes3250 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant tactic
@loupiscanis9449
@loupiscanis9449 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
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