Archery Comparison: Manchu Bows from basic to exclusive

[@jareth7456]

Armin was born to teach he is infinitly patient as in he will wait for stars to burn out . He reminds me of some of my old teachers. Wize

[@ferryjo6753]

Your voice... very similar to col. Hans Lada from inglorius basterd.... very good archery channel ...

[@SatsuRyu]

Wow this is quite the comprehensive review! Thanks so much for your efforts Armin!

[@ianwalsham5628]

May I say thanks for all your great videos. I would mention that I shoot at various types of targets. If I shoot at either a straw boss or rubber mat stack, I have learned to put a small ring of araldite round the base of the point. This makes the arrow much easier to pull out.

[@MrTheWaterbear]

Lovely video with lovely shooting and lovely bows. And of course a dedicated host, having fun and really getting that across in his serious content. Spectacular fun to watch - keep it up! ^^

[@ArminHirmer]

thank you

[@AngloSaxon1]

This is the best archery channel on youtube. Have you ever reviewed the PVC bows that are so popular?

[@ArminHirmer]

thank you very much. no I did not, are they popular? I build a ton a few years ago :D

[@AngloSaxon1]

Armin Hirmer yes, they sell a lot of them on eBay, and many you tubers make videos shooting them

[@ArminHirmer]

They can send me one, I will do a review :)

[@Hutchie2112]

As I am now addicted to longer drawing, and the historical accuracy is not particularly important, the Alibow is the one for me. That was a very insightful review, thank you

[@blake436]

Thanks, Armin. I own the Qing and Yarha and love both. I find it much more difficult to tune arrows with the Yarha. Paradox feels more unforgiving. To be fair, I don't have a wide variety of Manchu-length arrows to experiment with, and the Yarha is lower poundage. Both great bows. Maybe one day I will get to shoot the newest one you reviewed.

[@jareth7456]

Armin you have alot to teach and I am very appreciative and thank you for your review of the paragon tartar raider I just got mine from Robert and I love it. Chris on the other hand has a horrible release....sorry Chris but your letting your draw hand creep forward on the release like your afraid to shoot it from a long draw.

[@phillott4181]

Love traditional archery...I have a compound and it has no soul.. Not the same, not at all...the old was was always the correct way...the way it was supposed to be

[@JasonKonopinski]

I just received the Qinghai in fiberglass (ordered based on your review) and I’m quickly becoming obsessed with long draw. The Yarha is next. :-)

[@ArminHirmer]

Hehe I can relate to that :) thanks for watching

[@JasonKonopinski]

@@ArminHirmer Thank you for providing such excellent tutorials and reviews!

[@lorkanbailey9228]

I love your glasses Sherlock, good video!

[@theatrenisha9345]

Thank you for this lovely review . Enjoyed it .

[@na-ilemmert2007]

Everything that has been said by you, Armin, has proven true. My Yarha is perfect for ME. As a beginner in shooting using thumb release eagle claw and khatra, it is great because though it is a Manchu Style piece, it is not as expensive. Very portable. I prefer your way of doing things when it comes to archery, if I could learn from you in person, I would. That said, all information in your videos is so well covered, that I am successful shooting with this style regardless. Alibow should take you on as a sponsored spokesperson. They are not as known as they could be, eh?

[@Archer-op9cp]

I have a quite similar trouble with some of my arrows. It's tips are fitted to the shaft with a nail, it´s heads causes a lot of damage to my targets

[@solhoibaturu]

Boss! Do you happen to still have that laminated manchu with orange stripes? I would, if you may, love to buy that bow from you, even if it was strung & used.

[@PawnSacrific3]

I also have a Qing Dragon 2 and I love it, I can't go back to a shorter draw length now. I was wondering if you knew of any place that makes biocomposite or horn manchu bows? I've been looking but can't find any, I figured you'd be the person to ask.

[@Felix-wp2sr]

PawnSacrific3 JuYuanHao by Yang Fuxi. He’s a descendant of an imperial Manchu bow craftsman and is the only legit maker of real horn Manchu bows.

[@Jimserac]

Intriguing ! I wonder how Kyudo bows would stack up against these. Lastly, it would be great to see a comparison with the old Mongolian horse back shooting bows from which a skilled rider could make multiple shots one after the other quite fast. Sorry, don't know the technical names of the other bows I mentioned.

[@ArminHirmer]

I guess manchu bows are a bit more efficient and faster to shoot. mongolian design is similar to this ones

[@Jimserac]

Thanks !

Japanese weapons are usually overrated

[@Pirate57]

If you had to take one of these bows to war in ancient times, which one would you take?

[@ArminHirmer]

good question, something not too long.

[@ambidextrousarchery]

10 minutes before, $10 cheaper 😂 Great video👍👍

[@jaytsang1161]

Could you draw the real weight they used in battle which was a minimum of 80 pounds

[@ArminHirmer]

Not with my shoulder right now :)

[@hipanny3792]

Qingbow has a higher arrow speed than Korean bow ???

[@u06jo3vmp]

Actually no its arrow speed is a bit slower, but it can fire much bigger and heavier arrows so the overall energy is greater.

[@markmendoza7459]

I might be wrong but does he no how to shoot Manchu bow, I don't like instinctive with a Manchu bow

[@robsarchery9679]

You shoot good groups

[@niemandkeiner8057]

Chris has an interesting shooting technique. At least I've never seen it before.

[@ArminHirmer]

first time he drew 36"

[@christophersammut]

drawing 36" is quite a different experience and it takes some time to get used to. My maximum draw prior to this bow was 32". So I wouldn't really call it a "shooting technique" at this stage, just a learning curve :) . In my defence, I did hit the target, so, not all that bad after all :D

[@jonc67uk]

Christopher Sammut looked like a good first attempt to me. Reminds me of guys drawing big longbows for clout

[@heatheraquila2877]

Thank you for the reviews on these. I have been searching for a specific bow and I don’t know if it exists. Not sure if you can think of anything off the top of your head, and I definitely respect your time for helping me out if at all possible. I am specifically looking for a Manchu bow at 80 lbs minimum. I am familiar with the Alibow Imperial Strength, but I am looking for some other options with fiberglass and laminated to compare. I love the price of the Imperial Strength but am willing to spend a little more for laminated too. I also am hoping shipping can be within a month...? It would be a gift. If not then so be it, quality over timing I suppose. :) I understand if this is an odd request, and any response of yours is appreciated. I know you must be busy. Thank you. 🏹

[@ConradKnives]

Nabend Armin, danke für den vergleich der drei Bögen. Wirklich interessant. Wo du ihn erwähnt hast würde mich doch interessieren wie der Bogen von Jia Zhiwei im Vergleich abschneiden würde. Naja vllt. irgendwann in der Zukunft. Gestern kam endlich mein eigener Yarha an und vorhin habe ich ihn zum ersten mal geschossen. Ich habe mich sofort in den weiten Auszug verliebt. Mit den Pfeilen die ich gleich dazu bestellt hatte bemerkte ich auch absolut keinen Handshock. Leider ließ meine Form/Konzentration heute wirklich zu wünschen übrig, oder ich muss einfach meine Technik etwas umstellen damit sie zum Bogen passt. Habe die Sehne ein paar mal gegen den Arm bekommen. Trotzdem bin sehr glücklich mit ihm.

[@ArminHirmer]

freut mich :) ich schätze des Jia wird ähnlich dem Yarha sein, nur vielleicht "schöner" was Ansichtssache ist

[@ConradKnives]

Kann sein muss aber nicht. Ich habe mich gestern Abend noch etwas nach Reviews umgesehen nicht viel gefunden.vor einer Weile war Mal eine Review im TB Magazin aber seit dem hat sich der Bogen noch etwas verändert. Was mir in den paar Clips auf KZbin die ich gefunden habe aufgefallen ist war das der Jia eine relativ große Standhöhe hat. Habe aber keine Angaben diesbezüglich gefunden.

[@mickjenner6697]

I just ordered the Alibow, yahra, I sent a text to let them know you are the reason I have a Ming emporer III also after your review ,

[@ArminHirmer]

Thanks. I don't get commission but nice when they know :)

[@mickjenner6697]

@@ArminHirmer well i apreciate your knowlege , and figure you do this for your pleasure not wealth, but I think some acknowledgement is in order , as you are a promoter of this way and quality products

[@ArminHirmer]

Thank you

[@jaytsang1161]

At such low draw weight the siyahs have no advantage. I though the advantage starts kicking in at 80 pounds. Why not get a regular recurve wth no hand shock???

[@ArminHirmer]

you can feel it with 50# already, of course usually from 80# it is the real deal.

[@jaytsang1161]

If the advantage of the siyahs dont kick in at about 80 pounds then anything less like a 40 pound bow with those siyahs is a waste, is that corect. The siyahs add weight to the limb which is a disadvantage

[@jaytsang1161]

What draw weight would the siyah have advantage? Light draw weight would be a disadvantage. Is it true you need 80 pounds for the advantage to kick in

[@ArminHirmer]

yes they say around 80# but you can feel it already with 50#

[@jaytsang1161]

You should do a youtube video where you compare the performance of bows at different draw weights with the siyahs and without them and see at which draw weight there is an advantage to test the 80 pound myth

[@takeshimizuho6680]

Really enjoed this viedo! Great review as allways. What do you think about korean bows?

[@ArminHirmer]

I like them, soon i will do a review of Alibows Korean

[@takeshimizuho6680]

can't wait to See this review

[@jonoedwards4195]

Great Show! HAHA, like a 911 Turbo, lots of arrows will meet an early Fate. Beauty MA.

[@terrijones5594]

The only thing I know about manchu bows is what I have seen from you videos. A question. Is the katra not used with the manchu style bow? It didn't look like you used it when comparing these bows.

[@Archer-op9cp]

No, sir. Manchu archery use a high grip, in order to reduce to minimum the interaction with the bow. A sort of natural anti-khatra. If you twist your manchu bow, specially side-forward, you are risking to unstrung the bow

[@christophersammut]

yep, correct, katra simply doesn't happen with this bow, your wrist refuses to move forward, on another note, the kick you get with the YZDW gives you a great feeling of power, kind of... replaces the need for katra.

[@terrijones5594]

Thank you for that information about Manchu bows. I didn't realize that was a possibility.

[@vladhanev5957]

But instead try not let the bow move at all. The Manchu bow is slow and draws very far, so the arrow travels much longer before it leaves the string. With khatra you can hardly shoot it with accuracy.

[@MrRourk]

If you could only have 1; Manchu or Korean?

[@assaultspoon4925]

Korean is shorter and stores easier and is better for distance shooting with lighter arrows. I guess Korean barely wins out for me Still, I cant deny the allure of shooting a Manchu bow with heavy arrows.

[@PawnSacrific3]

How long is your draw for the Qing bow? It looks nice, I'd like to shoot some meaty manchu arrows!

[@dedenurfauzy6074]

Hi mr. Armin Thanks for review I want to ask you How length of siyah? How length of limbs? How length of handle This is nice bow

[@dedenurfauzy6074]

Shortest bow

[@Fredjo]

:D

[@lutzschneider6902]

Thx for this review. I wondered what the brace height is for Ali Bows Turkish fiber glass bow, unfortunately I couldn't find anything on there website. What would be your recommendation for that bow Armin, or what do you normally go for?

[@ArminHirmer]

yes yes I will check!!!

[@GuendolaMaurer]

I asked alibow directly, it should be "around 17 cm".

[@ArminHirmer]

same info here. between 16 and 18 cm

[@lutzschneider6902]

Armin that's what I guessed ... roughly around 7 inches. Thanks a lot for your help 😊👍 keep on making your clips. Really helpful and funny 😂👍. If I should ever make it to Malta I'll come around 😉

[@lucamarialanza7319]

As usual, a great video. I didn't understand two things, probably because of my bad English. First, why, if an arrow costs 17 dollars 12 arrows cost 450 dollars? Shouldn't they cost 194 bucks? Second, this kind of bows are ambidextrous??

[@anbudrew]

I guess the comparison was not so “unfair” after all.

[@tigerfan7349]

I don’t think the yzdw bow is “historically correct”. If you look at the old pictures the bows aren’t that rigid, especially when they’re drawn. Some looked like Qing Dragon with smooth curves

[@tigerfan7349]

Also I believe the way the bow bends affect the arrow speed. I think the more rigidly it bends(for example yzdw), the less arrow speed it has.(my observation)

[@ArminHirmer]

i meant more the design not the shape, but you are right

[@TheDave570]

He lets his arm forward before he releases the string!

[@ElizaberthUndEugen]

That must be the most terrible release I ever saw.

[@ArminHirmer]

yes Dave, make a video how to do it properly then :) just in case you think I did it wrong ;)

[@ElizaberthUndEugen]

he was referring to the guy who owns the bow.

[@ArminHirmer]

was his first shots ever with a manchu bow ....

[@Silirion]

No personal criticism from me. I think it was very educational to see the difference in someone used to shooting the bow and the owner who had not shot with it. Was very beneficial as it makes me more aware of how I can sense when I myself improve my release. What to be aware of when having seen someone else do it better, and maybe someone at the very first draws.

[@nicom.6093]

"let's shoot the ffff....forty nine pounds" in my mind: "fuck what is... / fucking nice bow / fucking crap bow / for fuck sake where is ... hmmm what will he say. Oh forty nine"

[@anbudrew]

Yeeeees!

[@aslanbosnakoglu8240]

talking about inflation 4 years ago.

[@turkaytoklu2237]

very long bow, how manchus use bow on horseback?

[@ArminHirmer]

like all others, they are not sooooo long :)

[@Archer-op9cp]

Using the stirrups a little bit shorter, then you rise yourself above the saddle. With training, you can perform every horse archery trick, except perhaps the turkish jarmakee

[@loveforever5687]

Im a Korean bow guy because of the size

[@mummermeme]

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[@arthurrobey4945]

Please use a thumbring. I am not entertained by your pain. What is the meaning of "stacking"?

[@ArminHirmer]

hehe I will. Stacking means, when you reach full draw and the bow does not want to bend anymore