Armored Core 6 Is A Terribly Boring, Generic And Bland Trial And Error Game

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@tylerberringer5366 Жыл бұрын

Hey man, I appreciate your review, especially the grinding for new parts and returning to boss part at 5:26. But i disagree with a lot of your other points. As a fan both AC and Zone Enders, AC6 is a newer version of the older games. It's a little reductive to say everything is a trial and error crapshoot, when another way to phrase it is to say there are multiple ways to get through each boss, and that there ISN'T a single answer. I think we had different experiences, so thanks for the review!

@SolonGaming Жыл бұрын

All the answers are trial and error though. You can find many builds that work, some more than others and even brute force it by learning all of the bosses attack patterns through trial and error. You try to dodge and attack at the right time and every time you fail, you take damage and eventually die. Then you start again doing things slightly differently when it comes to timing your attacks dodges and directions. That's pure trial and error. Don't tell me the game demanded much reflexes or deep thoughts from the players, cause you know it didn't. There were times i had a really easy time with it because i just happened to have the right build and times that felt like i was wasting my time. I am glad you can enjoy your games regardless of their quality, but i am not willing to give a good score to a game that felt like a generic PS1 game, especially since it's my job to be accurate. You are welcome.

@feelzgaming4334 Жыл бұрын

@@SolonGamingBro relax u have 17 subscribers it aint your "job" to do none of this. You should be grateful u getting a comment this polite so early on in youtube and on a terribly written review at that.

@SolonGaming Жыл бұрын

@@feelzgaming4334 How about you be grateful for once since you are not getting a shill trying to sell you a bad product? Elaborate on your ''terribly written review'' if you can or just stop pretending you know anything.

@feelzgaming4334 Жыл бұрын

@@SolonGamingbro drop the ego lmao 😂. You think ur special but really you're just another guy on youtube taking advantage of clickbait and producing low effort "controversial" videos. Your review boils down to just complaining most of the time rather than elaborating on legitimately good points like certain builds trivializing bosses and why u feel thats a problem even if its the developers intent you go right back to complaining about stuff like melee being one button and repeating that the game is bland boring and generic over and over. Its not the fact u have a different opinion that bothers me its the inflated importance you give to that opinion of yours despite how little effort you clearly put into developing it. So how bout u check that ego and consider for once in ur life that u might be the stupid one. Oh but wait then you'd actually have to say something of substance and that takes a little too much effort for you i suppose🤷‍♂️😂

@Mugiwara_no_mo Жыл бұрын

@@SolonGamingNigga you're weird 💀💀💀💀

@eduardobenassi3072 Жыл бұрын

I played 5 hours and uninstalled it. Feels too sterile and plain. It's crazy to think this is FS game. Quite literally the complete opposite of the pervious titles, which are brimming with personality and creativity.

@andrewkrylov1501 Ай бұрын

Typical FS game. The others just compensate it with beautiful landscapes.

@bumgilligan Жыл бұрын

This is the craziest review. Mad that an attack was one button press? You want a combo input to shoot a gun? Nice rage bait video i guess

@SolonGaming Жыл бұрын

No one is mad. The attack is a one or two hit with no extra combinations with movement or anything. That's laziness incarnate. I never said i want combos in ranged guns, i just wanted the guns to function in different ways depending movement, ranged or holding another button in general, you know like ZOE 2 does.

@osakanone Ай бұрын

@@SolonGamingHello! Rather than shout abuse I have informations and some positive things to say. First I very much appreciate yoru honesty as someone who also prefers ZOE2 to AC6. I will say however, the game's later weapons have features like this. What you hold or tap changes the mode of missile launchers, energy weapons, remote-weapons, burst-rifles, and most blades. Having inconsistency in the action of a weapon based on boosting state (burst, dash a la ZOE) wouldn't make thematic sense in Armored Core, nor would it make strategic sense since its a fundamentall different game. I say this as someone who also prefers ZOE2 to AC6. That said, I do deeply miss ZOE's state-changing features, like dash and burst. They added a lot of layers which were very enjoyable. The offscreen lockon is specifically to make you think about acquisition in a very direct way since getting and losing targets in Armored Core is a huge part of its core gameloop. Originally, the ACs had a deliberately limited turn-rate, and while they would auto-turn a bit to keep up with targets in some situations overall they needed a lot of manual pilot action. The ability to have differing turn-rates as a mechanic (which was a huge influence upon the game's balancing and ranging) was ditched, and so as a concession to the fans an imperfect hardlock was given which I'm personally not very fond of. I would prefer a hardlock which still included turn-rates, but in which if you're turned away from an opponent this perhaps alters the attack in some way, for example changing a blade-swing to encorporate it or something like that. I feel you should try Armored Core: For Answer. While it begins slow and plodding like AC6, the mid-game is actually faster than Zone of the Enders 2. It is seen by many as FROM software's "response" to Zone of the Enders. Banshee-NT has good videos showing what that looks like. Some of the best mecha combat I've ever seen, alongside obviously ZOE1&2 and their PS1 ancestor Omega-Boost which you might also enjoy. Its lockon mechanics and general design are similar, and though it lacks some of the melee elements until later in the game you can feel a common ancestry linking Omega Boost and Zone of the Enders. ACFA's multiplayer ("PCFA") got a fan-patch recently, 1.99. It is incredibly fun. I bring up ACFA, since AC6 feels like a bit of a toy compared to FA, which along with Verdict Day and Last Raven/Nexus are often seen as the high points in the AC series. On ZOE, There is a Zone of the Enders Discord out there if you search for it, and seeing some of the highest levels of play is deeply impressive. Speedrunners are incredible and this is where they go to. I am curious, what are the robot games you enjoy most other than ZOE2? I ask these questions as someone working on my own mecha-game and understanding your concerns and problems is inherently interesting for that reason. Take care and I hope you have a good day.

@SolonGaming Ай бұрын

@@osakanone It still plays like a souls like. Dodge to a direction to avoid and expect the enemy stays still when you attack. A souls like where the dodges and attacks are fast paced is not really better.

@SolonGaming Ай бұрын

@@osakanone Did you edit the last paragraphs or did i not remember reading them? Anyway, i can beat ZOE 2 on the hardest difficulty and i am pretty good at the game myself. Not sure if i will be impressed by the speedrunners. I like the game's combat depth though. I enjoy RPGs generally, they are my favorite genre. I don't really care if a good game has robot in it or not. I don't have any specific attraction to mechs, but the fact that you can customize each part individually is cool. If done correctly, it can add a lot of depth to a mech game. AC games are flawed at their core, so the customization feels pointless. Just use ''x'' tool to beat ''y'' enemy. Front Mission is another franchise i like. Feel free to ask me specifics about anything. If i have the time i will make sure to answer.

@mabelhqprogamer4791 Жыл бұрын

"The dumbest person on the planet will easily figure it out" bro you couldn't figure it out, so what does that make you? 🤣

@SuperSky9 6 ай бұрын

He also said even the smartest person would have to the same since its trial and error.

@SolonGaming 2 ай бұрын

When did i say i couldn't figure it out? It's funny how the least intelligent comments who can't comprehend a simple 10 minute video get so many likes. It's almost like you guys need to try really hard to convince yourselves that there is someone beneath you, someone you can look down at.

@mabelhqprogamer4791 2 ай бұрын

@@SolonGaming cope harder my dude. your video was absolute dogsh*t and the like-dislike ratio speaks for itself lmao also, stop capping, we all know you didn't beat this game and if you did, you did it following a guide on the internet 😂

@Kemisina9 Ай бұрын

@@mabelhqprogamer4791go watch your opinion on youtube and stop shitting on other people valid opinions cuz you cant have one of your own anyways

@hua.. Жыл бұрын

people still trying to rage bait lmao

@SolonGaming Жыл бұрын

I am 100% genuine and my entire career will be as well

@elementalphoenix1722 Жыл бұрын

@@SolonGamingright. . .

@SolonGaming Жыл бұрын

@@elementalphoenix1722 Yup

@Slayerdudeto Жыл бұрын

A good game would come out and people would still shit and cry on it lmao…

@SolonGaming Жыл бұрын

Good thing this was not even remotely close to even a mid game

@Slayerdudeto Жыл бұрын

@@SolonGaming its the modern gaming trend

@SolonGaming Жыл бұрын

Sadly

@SuperSky9 6 ай бұрын

@@Slayerdudeto Modern gamer a.k.a. casual who buy anything with reputable IP to show off how cool they are. This trend started with ROTR when some extra from until dawn was released in a different game but with the Tomb Raider title.

@TranscientFelix Жыл бұрын

Hm. This does feel an awful lot like "This isn't Zone of the Enders so it's bad." I would imagine there really aren't any games you like since too many games qualify under your widely sweeping points. Can you give us an overview of your top 10 games so we know what kind of standards you think you have?

@SolonGaming Жыл бұрын

That's what you got out of my video? Sad. I have played more than 4000 games so i know tons of excellent games. If you want a few mainstream examples, Sifu, Returnal, Hades and Ori are some you might recognise. Watch some of my videos for extra examples of good games.

@TranscientFelix Жыл бұрын

@@SolonGaming Sorry, but roguelikes are the epitome of trial and error until you either get strong enough to beat the boss, get the right build to steamroll them, or your own skill with bad stats, which is how Armored Core works. Your videos are also all basically just shitting on games, with only one being remotely positive. Have you considered making reviews about games you like?

@SolonGaming Жыл бұрын

@@TranscientFelix Nope. Trial and error without depth is a design flaw. Roguelikes can be completely skill based. The roguelikes i mentioned along with many others i have played were 95% skill based which is way i beat them by dying a few times in my first playthrough and was winning consistently in every other. There are also many roguelikes that i beat with zero deaths. ''Star renegades'' and ''The Last Spell'' are some examples of them. Armored Core requires zero skill. Just memorise patterns and that's it. Memory is not a skill, it's a basic function for every lifeform unless you have Alzheimer's and tend to forget easily. I was extremely positive about many games in many of my videos, this one included. ZOE2 is great with little to no flaws. I will be making fully positive videos as well shortly. I have my eyes on ''Wandering Sword'' now, so as long as it turns out to be great, i will make a positive review.

@TranscientFelix Жыл бұрын

@@SolonGaming Uh, Armored Core can be "skill based" too; the same way you don't need godlike rolls in Hades to beat a boss by your skill alone, you don't need godlike equipment in Armored Core to beat any boss. I do think it's a skill issue, particularly since the idea of "there are many roguelikes I beat with zero deaths" sounds very hollow; both roguelikes you beat are tactical roguelikes and not real time combat like Armored Core; are you sure you're just not good at real time action? And I doubt you'll make a positive review video: you haven't before for who knows what reason, why now? Isn't it too entertaining for you to pick and choose something to bash instead of something you can compliment?

@SolonGaming Жыл бұрын

@@TranscientFelix No, Armored Core can't be skill based too. In Hades you can dodge enemy attacks by observing and having fast reflexes and you make good boons choices by having brains. Armored Core has some bosses with attacks that you can't tell which direction you are supposed to dodge just by looking. You learn by trying to dodge to different directions by a repeating process of trial and error. Then you procced to remember which attacks are dodged in what ways for the rest of them in the exact same way. Yes the roguelikes i beat are tactical and require brains and strategy which is actual skill and requires deep thinking and planning ahead. Hades, Returnal are action games, but i guess you forgot i mentioned them already due to poor memory or just because you are desperate to scream ''skill issue'' like the rest of Fromsofties. I also beat Ninja Gaiden 2 with zero death on both normal and hard difficulty. Devil May Cry 3, Nioh 2 and many others when i was even a child. I did die on those a lot though, but the point is i play all kinds of games well. Celeste, Ori, all kinds of genres regardless of how hard the game is, as long as the game was designed well. You know nothing about me and you should stop making up stuff to suit a pointless narrative. No one was impressed in my school when i was 14 and beat DMC3 and no one is impressed on the internet if you beat a snorefest like AC6 with a blindfold.

@curioustrout Жыл бұрын

What's it mean if the only boss you had to retry on was Balteus? That it's a game that caters to highly skilled pilots?

@ElDrHouse2010 Жыл бұрын

No way this has to be a parody. The pajet accent has to be a joke lol. 10/10 troll review You should review Fallout 3 being better than New Vegas with that voice.

@ПётрПавловский-щ1х Жыл бұрын

i would love to see that desu

@SolonGaming Жыл бұрын

Do i seriously sound like an Indian?

@ElDrHouse2010 Жыл бұрын

@@SolonGaming nice trolling dude almost fell for it

@SolonGaming Жыл бұрын

@@ElDrHouse2010 You didn't answer my question and i am not trolling. I am completely genuine and i will stay that way for my entire career.

@ElDrHouse2010 Жыл бұрын

@@SolonGaming 🤣😂🤣😂🤣 sure thing bro

@andrewkrylov1501 Ай бұрын

Sounds so familiar. Hm, maybe I know the developer. Oh.. I see! )

@Jdcisnothuman 22 күн бұрын

I'm confused "The AI moves out of my attacks" what did you expect I am honestly confused, what is a game you DO like? Like I wanna genuinely objectively know, what is a good game to you, why is it better than these games you hate?

@SolonGaming 22 күн бұрын

Watch my [Dark Souls, Elden Ring And Other Bad ''Hard'' Games] playlist.

@pRaX85815 Жыл бұрын

Another one filtered by Balteus. I can tell because you actually tried to use pulse weapons on him lmao.

@SolonGaming Жыл бұрын

The fact you think that pushover can filter anything speaks volumes about your skill and IQ. Just use bubble guns to break his shield and stunlock him. The game requires no skill, but of course you have to pretend it does so you can deflect criticism with strawmanning.

@pRaX85815 Жыл бұрын

@@SolonGaming What criticism? You're just making shit up because you got filtered. You're being disingenious for clicks ontop of that. I mean, I don't blame you for doing the latter but, it is what it is. You're literally self snitching without even realizing. It's rather ironic. People that don't get filtered don't need to look for gimmick loadouts like pulse guns for Balteus. Which aren't even that good at breaking shields but it's being parroted everywhere and you also fell for it. You wouldn't have fallen for it if you didn't need to look shit up. Only the filtered need to use the gimmicks. Fromsoft generously put them in the game for you lot and you actually got mad about it. You claim certain builds don't work, yet you can beat the game by punching or do no hit runs. You're just wrong my man. All builds work if you don't suck. You talk about grinding... only the filtered have to grind. You complain about the controls and clunkiness, well, can't relate as someone who plays on PC with M&KB, no clunk here. Shit is tight. But stay salty and keep using that Reddit buzzword energy to insult people. I know you're bad, other people know and can see you're bad and you know you're bad. It is what it is.

@SolonGaming Жыл бұрын

@@pRaX85815 You are delusional beyond comprehension. Yes, you can beat any boss by sitting through hours and learning every single of their attacks about how to dodge them with a dash to the proper side. That's by far the most cancerous way to play the game and only a terminal basement dweller would engage in that cancer and the fact they would even be proud of it... oh my. You people just find the most basic boring games, make up challenges that no one with an ounce of intelligence would care to play and then you go around acting superior. You are the ones self snitching without even realizing. Imagine the amount of time wasted in doing the exact same thing over and over again just to beat the game in a different way and the inferiority complex to go around bragging about it and deluding yourselves so hard into believing that everyone else who doesn't play like that is just inferior.

@pRaX85815 Жыл бұрын

@@SolonGaming I can imagine that it would take you several hours to learn boss behaviour. No surprise there. Btw, I don't think other people who are struggling with the game are inferior. Just you and your bad faith salty peers. But especially you ;-)

@SolonGaming Жыл бұрын

@@pRaX85815 It doesn't take me nearly as much time as low IQ people like you and the streamers you watch to learn boss behaviour, but i only do it for good games like Devil May Cry 3 which is harder than the entire Soulsborne franchise combined. You clearly do think they are inferior which is why you impulsively make generic ''git gud'' comments the moment you see a video criticising the putrid you worship. Yes i know i made you bitter. Delusional pretentious pricks hate it when they get called out.

@kanekump3950 Жыл бұрын

This kinda seems like a hot garbage take. I'm not sure if your a fromsoft loyalist or just need to bait people for attention but have you considered maybe that your not the target audience. Calling this game boring is like saying runescape for mobile it a thrilling action packed experience. Having three dimensions to fight and engage in can be too much for some people, sure I get that but if you wanna look at the game for what it is and not what you want it to be then maybe you could find the joy in fromsoft showing some love to a franchise that was abcent from the market for more than a decade

@SolonGaming Жыл бұрын

What in the world are you even saying? I judged the game for what it is. Comparing it to ZOE2 was meant to give an example of what a good game is even after 20 years and not what i want it to be. AC6 is not even the best of it's own franchise. Try comprehension skills next time.

@kanekump3950 Жыл бұрын

@SolonGaming your not seriously gunna say "what are you even saying" and finish your comment with "try compression skills next time". There's enough Gaul and hipocracy there to kill a live studio audience with laughter. I haven't played all 15+ instalments of armoured core but I did play 4 and 5. 4 is fantastic in the sence that people still play super smash bros melee in tournies while we have smash ultimate and AC 5 was not just one of best mech games to hit the old generation of consoles but it was a great game in its own right even before fromsoft had a decade + away from the AC series to develop the textbook fromsoft gamestyle. There are always gunna be older generations of people who had a favourite game and will never change it. People's hearts are won over by different things so I'd be totally understanding if this wasn't your favourite game but if your gunna fight with your viewers and leave a half assed underhanded "evaluation" of my comprehension skills then I'll happily call you out for being so dense as to say that AC 6 is not the best of the AC franchise. The game runs so smoothly, the story was shown alot of love compared to previous AC games, It dosent just look beautiful for the world setting your in but it invites simultaneous strategic and chaotic gameplay. Maybe a little less so for console if your not running an elite controller with backpaddles but what I'm trying to get across is that your take on AC 6 not being the best instalment of the armoured core franchise is a poor opinion and moreover maybe just your problem. I'd have been less inclined to be so deep with my comment if you weren't a hypocrite in trying to pick me apart for my "comprehension skills" but bickering with your viewers over opinions on a videogame in the KZbin comment section is a huge waste of your time as a "content creator". The way you responded tells me I obviously hurt your pride so I will offer you an apology for sharing my opinion, but trying to be ignorant of what I say or feigning ignorance as an excuse to be so petty is sad enough for me to have a chuckle. Obviously it's true that I'm just sharing my opinion as you are yours, but I didn't think it was worth showing you were so cut over it😮‍💨

@daniellord-vera6987 Жыл бұрын

wtf are you even talking about XD ac 6 has a great story if you actually listened youd know theres alot of plot twitsts, gameplay is wayyy better than zone and you can customize a lot missions change after ng+ pvp is amazing and the game is chalenging and makes you think outside the box on how to fight the bosses take a seat and actually play the game or bring actual points as to why ac 6 is not good when it actually is better than zone.

@SolonGaming Жыл бұрын

The fact you defend that snorefest of a story... The gameplay is as basic as PS1 games and even worse i might say. The fact you think customization alone makes the game good, when it does nothing except give you pointless illusions of choice. Think outside the box? Haha, you are trolling right? The game doesn't require a single thought. Easily one of the most low IQ games out there. A 5 year old can beat it given enough time, but apparently when you have low IQ, you think trial and error is making you think.

@BatMan362100 Жыл бұрын

I appreciate the honesty, to be fair Armor Core 6 is not perfect. Compared to you I can't say I have as many gripes with this title as you, and that comes from me that has an under the minimum required specs PC to play the game, and the damn thing still runs fine, which to be fair isn't an argument related to the video. Everyone's opinion is subjective when it comes to what they like or don't. For instance AC 6, you may not like this game, but I like it a lot. So yeah. I pretty much disagree with most things you said, except for the target assist part, yeah... it kind of sucks, but it works well enough in boss fights, which is the only thing that justifies its existence.

@Mattiedamacdaddy Жыл бұрын

Trial and error game? There wasn't much to figure out you, it's just a flow game and you get to try a few builds to change it up

@SolonGaming Жыл бұрын

The normal enemies are not even worth mentioning. They were pointlessly boring for baby brains. The boss fights require you to try a few builds as you said and give you a free win if you have the right one. That's literally a trial and error game. No skills required.

@ПётрПавловский-щ1х Жыл бұрын

Play the older games

@SolonGaming Жыл бұрын

I played almost all the PS2 games, they are all bad in similar ways. The franchise is stuck in the PS1 era

@ryynerwicked2762 Жыл бұрын

The older armored core games were great, they were challenging, detailed an draws u in, u reqly had to learn ur suit, an thr last two actually had good graphics to for the time of course lol I miss tho games

@MaxTenjou Жыл бұрын

@@SolonGamingwtf

@SolonGaming Жыл бұрын

@@MaxTenjou What?

@skuggikuwa8989 Жыл бұрын

If you dont like the game, then dont play it 😅 Many people are enjoying the game right now and if thats not you, oh well, this games just not for you. If you want to look down on people for what they enjoy then go for it. It hardly matters if you dont enjoy the game.

@SolonGaming Жыл бұрын

Genius advice for a reviewer. It's not like reviewers have to play a game to evaluate it's quality and inform others right? Yes many low IQ people enjoy boring games and even make up stuff and delude themselves into pretending these games are masterpieces. Good thing there are honest people who do objective reviews as well. I don't care about looking down on people, that's clearly a job for Fromsofties who obviously have a shattered ego and can't help themselves from constantly making generic ''git gud'' comments even when that has nothing to do with the context.