ARMORED CORE 6 With Lore Hunter | Yggdrasil Podcast 33

[@wolf1nsoul]

Vaati was actually the one who mentioned the "debt" aspect and how him and Yamamura liked it and how it surprised him...Excellent episode gents, it's great to see Lore Hunter on the podcast again! ;)

[@leftovernoise]

While I like the idea of debt in ac games, I've literally never interacted with it. I'm not even good at these games but I've played every gen but 5 and I have never once even come close to going into debt. Most people I see upset about the debt mechanic being gone are ac vets that will likely never fail enough to even come close to being in debt. Which I just find kind of silly

[@anenemystand5582]

@leftovernoise it's more about the threat. Like I never got into bad debt. But I never got into debt because i had to think around it. Also it just adds to the feel of the game. It let's you get more into the role

[@theworstcatholic7247]

@@leftovernoise I imagine it adds tension, a feeling of risk and reward, consequences for failure. The 'possibility' of something happening changes an individuals mindset, adds atmosphere and as one reply already stated, helps one get into the mindset of the role in a gameplay one as well, something From excels in. Making you feel how they wish you to.

[@b9humssjheffreinsebastian598]

Lore hunter: Damn killing this dude makes me feel bad... Also lore hunter: so anyways I farmed him a couple dozen times

[@Dracobyte]

Like Homer Simpson and his Lobster episode?

[@christopherlyndsay8611]

Honestly lore hunters preview was the best preview beside Vaatis for me as people seem to underestimate how key the story can be to the enjoyment of a game

[@Shinkirou_]

Regarding the "less pleasant topic", as a long time Armored Core fan, I'm just happy that an entire generation of people who never knew about Armored Core will get to experience it for the first time The joy of piloting a mech, The power of those boosts, The joy of spending hours and hours and hours in the garage, That's something I always wished I could share with more people and, now that Armored Core 6 is coming out, I finally can! It delights me to no end that people like you, Vaati, or Iron Pineapple will get to play it and join in on the discussion and post videos on it. And I'm sure people like the Armored Core legacy team would agree with me. I'm sure most veteran Armored Core fans will agree with me even. So don't let the grumbling of a minority discourage you all. Most of us will welcome you with open arms. As for their reasoning, a lot of this is Armored Core fans feeling upset that Dark Souls and the Dark Souls community has been the favorite child while Armored Core lay seemingly forgotten by FromSoftware. And now that same Dark Souls community that they envied will replace them and become the new Armored Core community due to sheer numeric superiority. And all the culture of the old Armored Core community will be replaced by the culture of the Dark Souls community, who will replace them as the new Armored Core community. I've heard someone describe it as "we're being gentrified" And while I'm not unsympathetic to their plight, I think there's no excuse for being hostile or condescending to new players. I think a true AC fan would be glad to share the game with everyone. I, for one, welcome all the new players and am excited that so many people are gaining an interest in Armored Core.

[@Sorain1]

There will always be those who decide to lash out and be jerks about change. That minority makes a lot of noise, as they always have and always will. Armored Core never had some singular central community, it predates such things being really possible. Not even when AC 5/VD multiplayer formed a community was it centralized in the manner required for this to be 'gentrification' like that. Observation of reality tells us that, with each new generation of the game, a different audience forms around it. Since Nexus, the first major change to formula, that has happened each time. The idea that the souls community will 'replace' the AC community doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Nothing prevents someone from liking both, or simply liking parts of the Fromsoft design formula that are present in everything they have done. When things settle down, the squeaky wheels will either be silenced by themselves or cast out naturally. Because the community is about a mutual like, not a mutual hate.

[@Shinkirou_]

@@Sorain1 Yeah, each gen has had it's divide, even before this. You had the AC1~AC3 elitists who looked down on the people who started in the PS3 era (AC4 onwards), acting like "ravens" were superior to the casual "lynxes" who never played "the real Armored Core." But as usual, those people were the minority, and, as long as you have fun, it's their loss. Armored Core 6's release actually reminds me a lot about Monster Hunter World and how people grumbled about that game prior to release. But after the release, those negative voices were generally drowned out. I suspect the same thing will happen with Armored Core 6.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Me too!!

[@nimbusws2566]

I feel like a good premise for the DLC could be that 621 has "bought their life back" and is now able to fall into debt and the like while probably being followed or haunted by enemies made in the base game

[@brianwagner781]

In Dune, Melange doesn't have mystical properties like that. It somewhat has religious significance to the Fremen (the natives), because it is tied to the sandworms (Shai-Hulud), but they still sell it to smugglers and give it as bribes to the Guild. What it has is an array of health benefits and mind/awareness effects for most people and unlocks potential for a few (it's tied to Paul's burgeoning prescience, and the prescient ability Navigators have), at the cost of creating an extreme addiction. It's not sentient in any way. If Coral is inspired by Melange, it could be giving some of the natives a big picture awareness the natives don't have, and that might be what some of that dialogue is.

[@Dracobyte]

Isn't The Water of Life from Arrakis the one that does have mystical properties?

[@brianwagner781]

@@Dracobyte sort of. Even that is presented in a more science fiction than mystical way. It unlocks genetic memory for Reverend Mothers. But bc it's a strong poison that presents a bodily crisis and forces the woman to draw on resources that were before just out of reach. Other poisons had worked for that purpose before in the Duniverse. Paul becomes a full Kwisatz Haderach much the same way. These things have religious significance to Fremen, but aren't ultimately explained as mystical.

[@babadook1283]

@@Dracobytebeen quite a few years since I’ve read it but the water of life essentially is distilled spice

[@jmc2830]

I think the connection being made is that melange in dune is an allegory for oil in our world. So he's making the connection between melange and coral being metaphors for the same thing. There are more then one way to be "inspired" by something.

[@brianwagner781]

@@jmc2830 at this point I don't remember many details of this video. But I don't think I was arguing that Coral wouldn't have been inspired by Dune's Melange. I think the video speculated it might turn out Coral is sentient and has other mystical properties. So I was trying to clarify stuff about Melange. You're right though, Melange clearly was (among other things) an allegory for oil. And Armored Core's Coral could share some of those connections. Haven't played it.

[@primarchlogarius]

Really nice to listen to Lore Hunter on this podcast. Thanks! I like how 1:00:10 the way you said Yes! It felt real good haha 😂. That moment where you feel happy your theory clicked. 😊

[@theworstcatholic7247]

"What is the connection between souls and crystals" Mind blown. It's reflection, it's damned reflection. The eyes are the window to the soul, they reflect light, crystals refract light. Soul is clarity, often talked of through sight.

[@fartoplata308]

'Oskr and the Lore hunter talking about AC6. ..society has truly ascended to new heights.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Thank you for making a podcast episode dedicated to Armored Core! And thank to Lore Hunter for making this collaboration possible.

[@wiremesh2]

Art direction > graphics. It'll be nice when the technical side catches up to their direction, but even if From is a little behind, the worlds and creatures they create are still far more intriguing and inspiring than just about anything else out there. Though on that technical front, I've noticed that the recent footage seems pretty weak in terms of ambient occlusion. It's possible they've tuned the settings down for the demos to maintain good performance, and the final release might allow you to increase that setting. As seen in Elden Ring, they're starting to dabble in ray tracing, but I'd really like to see them dip their toes in DLSS/FSR/XeSS.

[@Dracobyte]

Plus, art direction and non realistic character design really helps a game when tecnology advances and allows to age it well.

[@aydincastro1924]

The craziest thing about the dlc for Elden Ring is that as is tradition it will be the best part of the game. Which is insane to me since that initial playthrough of Elden ring is the most fun I've had with a game ever. Knowing the best is yet to come is why from soft is the best studio working right now.

[@legalnews5950]

This was awesome to listen to during my hour and a half long drive. Super informative and insightful. See you in the arena, Pilots.

[@ElectricSphinx818]

I normally don't listen to podcasts but I really enjoyed this discussion. Really excited to experience this game and cant wait for release

[@samdemega4400]

i feel like the talking comes more from a place of emulating mecha anime, like if you watch stuff like gundam or macross plus the characters talk a lot during the fighting, thats kind of how i see armored core, like an emulation of these traits, so to me as fan of these shows it ends up adding to the appeal of it being a mecha game, thats also how i feel about ace combat, but idk maybe im just stretching

[@Shinkirou_]

This. It's a very "mech anime" trope, where pilots will size each other up before and during a "dogfight", and shit-talk each other, and yell out their last dying words before going down. It often draws inspiration from real life ace pilots, some of which historically, were very cocky and competitive. And that's part of the appeal, because one of the goals of Armored Core is to make things feel as "mech-like" as possible: from the way the mech moves and feels, down to tropes like these.

[@Sorain1]

For me my immediate thought was "Oh cool, Ace Combat style radio traffic." but it does fit with mecha anime as well.

[@Dracobyte]

Ace Combat chattering style, I like it.

[@Dracobyte]

Great episode from the podcast and an awesome guest!

[@BigYabai]

Though I think my favourite game is a toss up between Silent Line and Last Raven, I have to say Verdict Day has always lingered in my mind just for that gamefeel. Any time I'm not playing VD, I'm thinking about how good the mobility feels in that game when you learn how to use it. Also I will say now, I am like 80% sure most people who are complaining and gatekeeping aren't the real vets who love the series and want to see it prosper, but rather people who hopped on recently, played 4A and decided that it's the true AC game and everything else sucks. Usually easily noticed by their immediate hatred for gen 5 for not having booster flight and their compulsion to tell you about how "YO ARMORED CORE IS SO FAST BRO IT'S SUPER DUPER FAST AND SPEEDY AND YOU FLY AROUND AND IT'S SO FAST"

[@lesslighter]

the only thing I didnt like for Verdict Day most of the gen 5 movement options are invalidated due to the map layout otherwise it isnt bad

[@BigYabai]

@@lesslighter yeah unfortunately in flatter maps your only movement options are overboost, quickboost and jump. Jumping is far more useful if you have RJ legs and lighter build than others though. But when the map does have obstacles or buildings, then the mobility can really shine. Wallkicks are super fun.

[@Sorain1]

Yeah. At the end of the day, AC was 'static' only for gen 1-3. Both 4 and 5 did significant changes and tried new things. It's just such a foolish point to make an argument over these things.

[@Dracobyte]

​@@Sorain1kinda like Final Fantasy in terms of combat evolution.

[@DotTiuri]

I would so much love a survival horror game from fromsoft. In all the modern fromsoft games you climb your way from the bottom from the top and I would love a game where you stay at the bottom. Its not beat the world, beat the bosses. Its survive, fight as little as possible, sneak past enemy's gather tools and skills and make your way to the end, outsmart the world do not overpower it. There is this concept I had for an elden ring mod, where all the demigods where true gods and a tarnished would never be able to get on their level. I wanted the goal to be to get these godly weapons by sneaking around the world and get that lighting spear from the captital as an almost one shot but consumable weapon. The vibe of it all would be so different, it would feel oppressive but where the world may overpower you it can also overpower itself. I would also make it so that dying truly does not reset the world, boss health bars do not regenerate but might just be 100times bigger. So incremental succes could be a thing, this feels more accurate to the way respawning works in these games. I am however not a modder so I am afraid this will never see the light of day.

[@NovaTrap1312]

I really love the approach Fromsoft took with the marketing and the event, I watched soooo many of the hand on previews and it was really cool to hear all these different impressions and about the event in general.

[@Chimaeramentis]

I only started playing Dark Souls Remastered a couple of days ago. After having played almost everything else by FromSoft. It's much better than I was expecting. Just because it LOOKS old, that doesn't mean it will FEEL outdated. As a level designer I'm really enjoying exploring it. And would definitely recommend the more curious and open-minded people to start with the first one. It makes me sympathize with the veterans who are still attached to the way the first installment was designed. It plays wonderfully. And leans more towards exploration than DS2 or DS3. But the best advice I can give is to just start with whatever interests you most. The rest is always going to be there afterwards...

[@dillpicklelongsword7916]

Watch AC6 introduce debt in the second chapter of the game. Handler Walter: OK ac26…….. We're going to have to make some cut backs. A spoiled dog is a bad dog!

[@Sorain1]

It would be interesting if going independent of Walter meant facing potential debt. But I'm guessing it's not gonna work that way now. (maybe in a DLC campaign?)

[@cabnbeeschurgr]

For the "should you play older games" bit, I think it's a fair assumption to say this will be the penultimate armored core game that will be the best for people new to the series. Similar to elden ring I think the goal of AC6 is to combine all of the best aspects of previous games and make them work in fluidity. Additionally, I think Armored Core is sort of a parallel to the doom franchise, in that every generation of the series there is a distinct evolution or tone change. And much like doom eternal, it's taking a lot of the franchise's traits and putting them all in one game.

[@biswanathsaha2208]

I want FromSoft to go more to their older IPs. I want a new Kuon game. It was my first FromSoft game. The art direction was so unique even by today's standards.

[@Argonisgema]

we could use a new kingsfield. or maybe a remake.

[@I-ONLY-BUILD-MECHS-AND-DUSTERS]

It hard to get into the older games because of the controls. I would recommend one of the "newer old" games like Last Raven, ignoring the fact that LR is very difficult.

[@leftovernoise]

If you're able to play on an emulator through steam (I'm doing it on steam deck but I'm sure it can be done on PC) there are plenty of community control schemes for all ac games that have everything mapped correctly to use a modern controls with dual sticks. I tweaked the sensitivity a bit but they work great

[@Sorain1]

Nexus was where they finally went to the dual stick control scheme.

[@global-sequence]

I guarantee you that like 50% of people gatekeeping in the comments have literally never played the games and are purely trolling. Even if they say they're veterans or whatever.

[@epyjacek]

Probably the case. I played the old school games, AC 1 through 3. I think the game is looking great and I want everyone to experience it. AC6 feels like what the old school games wanted to be but the tech wasn't there.

[@RougeMephilesClone]

Based Lost Kingdoms request. I'm Lost Kingdoms' biggest fan, and excited to eventually play it for the first time. ;)

[@hocuspotus9755]

In the leadup to shadow of the erdtree @Ratatoskr should really have quelaag on for some unhinged speculation, she goes real deep into some cool shit on her channel

[@siddharthshishulkar8992]

Great chat guys. Really happy to listen to

[@chadsullivan3645]

13:49 Now in your guys defense, Vaati did just play through all the old AC games recently so he acquired alot of experience and know how.

[@Dracobyte]

Yup!

[@logangant7732]

1:03:10 i’m convinced that the people calling themselves ac “veterans” or are complaining about souls elements in ac have never played an ac game in their life and are actually the souls haters that get riled up anytime dark souls or one of its spin-offs get mentioned

[@nwm4660]

I've wondered that, those salty Horizon forbidden west devs still crying bout elden ring

[@tylerlane2159]

I agree, considering how much the souls series actually borrowed from armored core.

[@logangant7732]

@tylerlane2159 it just lines up too well

[@petercottantail7850]

This is in EVERY fandom, most people who are chill will say nothing so the socially awkward will standout. These people can't control themselves and will say anything that comes to their mind. Not everyone that does this is an asshole on purpose but they don't have the social maturity to know what they are doing is childish at best. Its not all one size fits all either. Most common cause are the ones trying to assert their knowledge as something to show off when no one asked. Like nitpicking on how someone plays a game even tho the outcome regardless will result in a win ect.

[@old_rodent_8157]

​@petercottantail7850 hate was stoked by people like vaati who you could say purposefully misled with his "hard lock" statements which he hasn't taken back and is still pushing said misleading information in his preview vid. If he's such an expert why can't he understand where he went wrong and apologise to everyone for said statements?

[@lethauntic]

I've heard the word "capitalism" more in the last hour than an average Twitter debate haha

[@sergiovega4690]

My blood pressure is raising just waiting for Armored Core vi

[@ImpulseOnyx]

58:39 "maybe it's semi-conscious?" the fact that the theory is extremely close to what actually happens with coral and the rubiconians.

[@mugeca]

I definitely would have tried to sneak in a question about Yamamura's resemblance to Yamamura in Bloodborne and also about Yamamura Chikage if I had the chance to speak with him lol. Not directly about Bloodborne, but also about Bloodborne...!

[@moonrabbit2334]

Let's go I have been starved of Ac6 contents. I want tge game so much and I want to paint it orange and white shiny colours 😂

[@kymriel]

I wouldn't say the past week has left me "starved" for content

[@moonrabbit2334]

@@kymriel Oh it's because I have consumed all of them. I like listening to those while I do my work. 😊

[@Dracobyte]

I recommend watching Writing on Games and Silver Glint videos.

[@petercottantail7850]

1:24:50 You'd like to see them tackle anything? Well let's see how you like their 'monsterhunters: diary' the chibi style hello kitty game and then we'll talk 🧐

[@TaranTatsuuchi]

I"m planning to move the lock to one of the face buttons. And probably put quickboost on the stick button.

[@jake212]

It's pretty crazy to me that people don't like the art style. The dark grey, mute style means that the things that pop are your AC, the lights of enemy ACs/MTs and gunfire. Seems pretty fitting that the only things to focus on in the world of AC are enemies and gunfire

[@minuteman91]

super unfortunate that those negative ac fans are out there. I love this series and am pumped to see new people getting into it. I obsessively played all the AC games over the years and think that change is a part of the FromSoft formula. Besides, it's not like they put the store and garage in separate menu screens or anything like that this time around O.o

[@ETheeb]

That was very cozy

[@mrhilj6582]

As an experienced AC player, I will say that back in 4 gen there was no longer an opportunity to go into debt, there was always enough money to buy a few parts. And besides, you hardly think about the cost of wasting ammunition in 4 gen. Ammunition in AC4 and ACFA almost never ran out, there was always enough. Except for missions where you have to fight with other AC pilots. In general, from what I've heard and seen about AC6, it's literally 4 gen with some significant changes and I'm honestly happy with it (Although I don't think 4 gen is the best. It changed too much in the series. But these changes weren't bad. Still i think 3 gen was the peak for the series. ). And the funny thing is that many fans can't stand it when AC6 is compared to souls games, I don't care about such comparisons. And honestly I love both the AC series and all the new FromSoftware games. I just want a NEW. MODERN. AC GAME!

[@looselygaming6130]

i don't usually watch podcast but this was honestly interesting

[@Erkelify]

Hey guys at 57:00 I think Coral is kind of a Boltzmann Brain kinda thing

[@FalseSleepwalker]

FromSoft became my favorite developer because they put out banger after banger and their development time usually wasn't very long. Usually big studios develop a game for 5 to 10 years and even then there are times when the end product turns out mediocre or just plain broken. Compared to that From dishes out excellent titles every other year which is mind boggling to me. I think that's why the wait for Elden ring was so painful. From really spoils us with content and we weren't used to waiting this long for releases. The same applies for the Elden ring DLC.

[@Sorain1]

Well, as a company they have some kind of '3 teams of 100 people each working on different projects in parallel' setup going. So each project has enough time in the oven to be properly done before they release, but they can keep up a release pace that the big boys envy. (and unlike them, aren't putting out unfinished works!)

[@FalseSleepwalker]

@@Sorain1 Souls games might have a problem here and there but none of their games come out completely broken. The quality and consistency is truly admirable considering their usual development time. Waiting for a game for 5 to 10 years for it come out broken or mediocre is really heart breaking.

[@Sorain1]

@@FalseSleepwalker Exactly. Their consistency of their output quality is what makes me so happy to see them keep going.

[@TheJML1975]

I really hope the Elden Ring Dlc, is sea based! Underwater would be fantastic and/or travelling to a bigger island would be just fantastic!

[@dogemaester]

I want From Software to release a game with dedicated servers. PLEASE. PLEASE MIYAZAKI. PLEASE.

[@zuurek6907]

I was gonna say with what you were talking about around 1 hour 26 minutes, fromsoft is reportedly making a game called spellbound or something like that. The leaker said the game will have a massive castle in the center which branches off into other areas akin to hogwarts legacy, and it will feature a more traditional high fantasy magic system, again akin to Harry potter

[@hobojoe9717]

1:03:34 Even as a life long gamer, it’s so weird to me how people like this tie so much of their identity to a game. People need to grow tf up lol

[@elgnarfowo2678]

Lets goooooooooooo

[@oggrim2824]

Opinions like Fextralife's and Skillups shouldn't be looked down on or mocked. They're a good gauge for how a wider audience will view the game, and in that regard, they are extremely accurate. I for one, appreciate that. Of course we're going to love it, but it's important to understand how strangers think about and perceive the game.

[@danthezulu7707]

I don't think they disrespected those opinions, more just disagreed.

[@Dracobyte]

​@@danthezulu7707yup.

[@justpeachee8964]

I would play Armored Core 6 on the switch if they ever did that. Honestly and I’m so pumped for the future of From Softs games. Whatever franchises they revive or create.

[@ziyadomar5891]

Daemon x machina is made my some ac devs I believe, id check it out if i were u

[@plagueseer]

I loved AC1 and Project Phantasma but I can understand most people would find them unplayable today

[@kyellebantog7720]

I'll give you some positivity and let you know i chose to start with AC1 a few months ago and holy fuck i loved it But fuck that platforming sequence lmao

[@fastenedcarrot9570]

Had a look at second hand prices for Kuon and it was nearly £500

[@goosewautier]

Metal wolf chaos 2 needs to be made next

[@Dracobyte]

Or Ninja Blade.

[@lesslighter]

now I realize why Lore Hunter's vod he was b hopping around... most likely stemming in the fact he played any AC game before AC4 where B hopping is a technique next to booster feathering both techniques that would stem from muscle memory though on point though when I finally saw the actual gameplay and saw how everything work I wont be surprised if someguys out there being "cheap" would use b hopping as a dodge tactic its viable as depending on the generator core and booster combo as you fall energy somewhat regens, its not going to give you perma flight but the idea is there.... question is why? like I get it From Soft basically "welded" all movement styles from AC1-V but still...

[@nemesisundead83]

I bet you can break hard lock being staggered or by getting emp'd (some form like that) but just a suspicion

[@J35h13]

kewl

[@Rytom]

Man I'm so tired of people saying x game has bad graphics, I don't understand either. We don't have games with "bad graphics" anymore, and it's been the case for several years. When we do, it's either because the game has been pushed too early, or because of incompetent devs. To be honest, the only generation I think has "bad graphics" is the PS1 era, and more specifically the 3D games. 2d games are timeless, early 3d ones aren't.

[@xx_amongus_xx6987]

We do have games with bad graphics, and as a reviewer it's your job to point out bad graphics. Halo Infinite has bad graphics. Armored Core 6 has ok/good graphics. Call of Duty has great graphics. If you don't understand what makes graphics good or bad, then you should research and look into what goes into graphics. Look at the graphical settings of a video game and learn what each one does and what the game looks like when you change each one.

[@Rytom]

I do understand what they do, I'm saying "bad graphics" does not make much sense. It's an umbrella term that does not indicate precisely what looks off to someone. Is it the lightning, the color palette, the aliasing, the textures, visual effects, the artstyle... See, I would say Halo Infinite looks "ok". It's not groundbreaking, but it's serviceable for what I've seen. I also think multiplayer FPS games need to keep some visual clarity, therefore I don't mind it. As an example, would you say Valorant looks bad ? It's pretty simple visually for improved visual clarity. The artstyle makes it pleasing to look at, but it's by no means up to the latest releases.

[@adrianeden8977]

Lore Hunter at 43:00 to Fextralife "I went to the AC6 Demo and no one knew you"

[@fastenedcarrot9570]

Proud Soultard checking in.

[@Rizaidym]

Ratatoskr, i want you to know that you've opened the floodgates. I WILL be pestering you about a Lost Kingdoms video. Nobody talks about Lost Kingdoms, and that's a crying shame.

[@bezotic12]

I'm gonna guess there's gonna be a boss battle where they disable hard lock or something. Just shutting down your mech's capabilities.

[@kyellebantog7720]

In the past, areas and boss fights would disable your fcs so definitely possible

[@LAK_770]

Fextra is good as a repository for dry information, that's it. Their ER builds invariably follow the "set yourself up to spam one thing and miss the point of the game completely" philosophy, and in a fundamental way this resonates with their trash take about graphics

[@gundam7463]

The first FromSoft attempt to make a game was an mech game. Appears they love that genre maybe this is why we gonna have the 16th game and just stop at Dark Souls 3, even when there is not reason to make more AC games.

[@jroz1692]

What

[@gundam7463]

@@jroz1692 I've corrected some sentences now :)

[@Homophonic]

i think AC6 would spoil u and u wouldnt be able to play the older ones, like imagine playing BOTW after TOTK

[@moonrabbit2334]

I can actually imagine tho.

[@jeanfrancozaratemarcial7916]

Tbf, it seems that older AC games have gameplay mechanics that AC6 doesn't. Even if they're janky by today's standards, they seem fun to play.

[@petercottantail7850]

Ac games 1-3 are vastly different from 4 and more so from 5. As we've seen 6 will be WAT more different. With that tho, even 1-3, I had my best experiences with ac1 and last raven (ironic those were the first and last i know, didn't realise till I wrote this comment) while the others felt more of the same thing with the obvious graphic updates. The mechanics changing made them just different rather than sequels adding on more features. I see a lot of people want to try ac series and just assume ac1 and 2 would just be the worst cause all these other games came out to perfect the formula. But really they should look at each number like ac3, or ac4 theses come out with sequels before the next number that usually make improvements. The comment about playing ac6 first to get the concepts of ac for previous games is very accurate and i think more people will appreciate the older games after 6.

[@Krystalmyth]

Breath of the Wild hasn't ruined playing Ocarina or Wind Waker for me.

[@epyjacek]

It happened with me and Dark Souls. I played hundreds of hours of Dark souls back when it first came out on PC. After finishing Elden Ring 100%, I went back and it was jarring. I can still play it but you can feel the difference despite many similarities.

[@overlord6887]

On the hostility from some AC fans. I think alot of them felt as though the IP had been abandoned by From. So for a new entry to come, but it then be (in their eyes) just another souls game it would feel like the ultimate betrayal and a confirmation that the IP is truly dead. Not how I feel about the topic, just psychoanalyzing folks. I for one am looking forwards to it and cant wait for it to release.

[@dejectedfrogcat2840]

FromSoftware needs to revive Ninja Blade! Or at least Echo Night....

[@n0lln0ll]

"Fromsoftlike" should be the norm now.

[@nemesisundead83]

And i still dont know what do say about the No Debt thing i mean yeah but the debt system in OG AC.....wiuld have been better without it but it wouldn't have been or felt the same maybe give us the option to turn on or off debt would be nice but then......i dont know man i just dont know anymore

[@akmetal574]

100% I will take smooth gameplay without insane bugs at the cost of overly ambitious graphics. Honestly can't take "graphics" as a complaint seriously. I wish Bloodborne had worse graphics so I could play at 60 fps lol

[@xx_amongus_xx6987]

Why not take both and not be satisfied with the bare minimum? The modern gaming landscape has seemingly lowered everyone's standards, a good game needs both good performance and good graphics (which can include art style). There are dozens of masterpieces and respectable developers that can do this, are you trying to say Fromsoft isn't capable of something that other great developers are?

[@godly_potatoe69xd19]

They seem to be using controlled and trained humans rather than what could be a perfect ai and ais simply being unmentioned as main enemies in the world besides with balteus is kinda suspicious. after they were such a big component of other ac games, I think maybe the reason they use humans rather than an ai is because an ai experimenting with coral was the reason for the fires of ibis. You also bring up the idea that coral could be alive. So is it like the book “gone” (Michael grant) where the creature/ai merged with the coral and is sitting behind the scenes trying to control holding of it? Because if coral can have psychological effects on a human, and boosting powers on technology, could it mess with the system of an ai? It sounds kinda crazy but I could see that being the villain behind the scenes.

[@GasDude1011]

People who complain about other people playing new series are the absolute biggest dweebs I've ever seen

[@TaranTatsuuchi]

Like... You can make mechs look good with less graphics... They're full of geometric shapes! People are quite curvy.

[@Sorain1]

Plus, surfaces with less detail to them, etc.

[@are3287]

Regarding the mean comments, some of the armored core fanbase seem to definitely have gripes with souls and its fans specificly and to me its mostly just kinda funny

[@rainbowkrampus]

Funny enough, I thought about that, "What if I could ask Miyazaki a question?" thing recently. Of course I have endless pet lore theories. But even just getting to a point where he would understand my perspective in order to reasonably answer a question would be a pretty big time sink. Like, "How do crystals relate to souls?" might not even be a meaningful perspective in his mind. Maybe it's the wrong framing for the question, ya know? So I think that asking some kind of clarifying question about his own perspective would be best. "Would you change something about X?" "Is there something missing from Y?" "What's the thing you paid the most attention to for Z?" That sort of thing. As for me, the question I would ask is, "Have you ever noticed how similar Marika is to a middle aged Japanese game developer?" I think that whatever response to that I got would be enlightening.

[@Sorain1]

I think the most interesting question to ask would be "What design decision would you undo if you could?" Because the why's would be fascinating. Similar to "What design decision would you do sooner if you could?"

[@rainbowkrampus]

@@Sorain1 Oh man, yeah, but like as an artist I wouldn't want to be asked that. It's easy to obsess over the woulda, coulda, shouldas and it can lead to some really toxic places. So most people who are successful in a creative field learn to just let that sort of thing exist in the past as is. It'd be kinda like going up to someone and punching an obvious bruise on their body. I just wouldn't ask it, personally. "What design decision would you do sooner if you could?" This is a more... approachable question. Though I think we'd find the answer a little boring. All of these games are iterative. So hitting on the posture system, as a random example, and sticking it in DS1 might not be something audiences and the development team were really ready for. Like, sure, you have the system. But what does that mean for the rest of your game that is largely derived from lessons learned while developing Demon's Souls and King's Field. Some people like to say that they were born in the wrong era. Personally I think that's cope. The past is a foreign country and the future is a black box. We are only really equipped to deal with the here and now.

[@Kaptime]

I hope the bosses have better tells than in ER because I feel like they dropped the ball a bit at the end of ER for the bosses compared to their other games. For example I've fought Malenia like 200 times at this point and there's this one attack (a standing slash) which is incredibly fast around 5-10 frame or something (but it's reactable if you start the dodge immediately), however the startup it has an animation that matches a couple of other possible attacks and if you want to parry it you'll get hit before it's really clear which flowchart she's going to go down. I remember it being a frustration after what was mostly a great experience. In contrast it's always clear what Orphan of Kos/Maria/Soul of Cinder/Isshin are doing but in ER there were a number of confusing moments and I didn't feel as if I was in a flow state as much compared to the previous games.

[@Homophonic]

LOL bro brought up the niche pronounciation 1:28:47

[@samuelforrest8726]

1:22:00 Yeah, Adventures of Cookie and Cream 2. plz and thx bozo.

[@Red-nl4lk]

1:38:35

[@Demokaze]

Kinda irrelevant but one of my favorite podcasts on YT was the BroKen podcast with Pewdiepie and Ken. Big part of why I found it appealing to listen to was the Dark Souls 2 footage playing in the background.

[@fable2867]

I am God

[@Belmont1714]

No you are not you puny insignificant mortal.

[@BigYabai]

C'mon y'know Step up It's time To go Do the MARIO

[@moonrabbit2334]

You r weird

[@Sorain1]

Could you check the random event generator please? It seems to be reading a preset script (with slight variation) from the 1900's recently and that concerns me.

[@jmc2830]

personally i just see absurd attacks on ac as the dead throws of the western games industry. desperately trying to jump on the coat tales of fromsoft by convincing them to ditch their tech for western tech. from their perspective, it must be a massive hit to ego to see this company ignore all their "industry standards" and still make extremely successful games. it may seem random, but when multiple sources all all same the same absurdities you can be at least a little suspicious about it's intention.

[@4dragons632]

I guess the thing is when someone is a jerk who wants to trash talk new fans coming into their game they're probably both: not actually that good at Armored Core and scared they're going to get outskilled by a bunch of new players, and leaving that comment in as many places as possible so they look like there are more of them than there are.

[@Sorain1]

I honestly don't think there's enough of a multiplayer community for that to be a major factor here. Only 5/VD had a real focus on that, and it was limited in scope by the platform exclusivity. But then again, emotional reactions don't run on rational thought.

[@Vanl0k]

Armored Souls!!!🥸

[@I-ONLY-BUILD-MECHS-AND-DUSTERS]

it shouldn't be too hard for you guys especially to understand the AC elitist mindset, even if I think they're wrong here. Imagine souls dies, and you get a new souls game after 10 years, and when it comes out it turns out it's a mobile afk RPG full of microtransactions because that's what's popular and modern right now. I don't really care if my girlfriend can play souls now, rather I'll try and keep her away from that stuff. The AC elitist is misguided, but don't pretend you don't understand him at all.

[@moonrabbit2334]

They said they understand it didn't you watch the video?

[@moonrabbit2334]

Also it's really degrading to even put microtransactions and FromSoft games in the same sentence

[@druid4243]

Did that happen? Is the new ac some casual casualized mess with none of its original identity? No, it didn't, it's nothing like that.

[@robbyw.8616]

3rd

[@CookinKungFu]

The reason why you all will continue to get hatemail is because you throw around souls like. The more you guys do what you did in this video explaining away the souls likeness the better.

[@naxergss2625]

Yay lorehunter, way better than cowboy

[@johnbarber3572]

Cowboy is fine. Hate on skillup or fextra or something

[@moonrabbit2334]

Don't throw shades here and just enjoy the video. Don't be a clown

[@godly_potatoe69xd19]

What’s wrong with cowboy exactly?

[@naxergss2625]

@@moonrabbit2334 no i think i will continue to do it

[@hamburger9434]

take some advice from g1 in the previews and stitch that mouth of yours shut. Cowboy is a good bean