Army BCT Now Trains for Combat Like a Stress Free, Gentle, Low Stakes Fat Camp

[@mjolnirdynamics8789]

Whenever the military feels obligated to point out that standards have not been lowered, you can be 100% sure they were lowered. Likely lowered even more than you suspect they were.

[@JamesonsTravels]

exactly. standards are the same and better yet ask any one in they will disagree.

[@arthursandomine5464]

Really good point!

[@jakexou812]

this whole video was proof of that. Sleeves rolled up, boots unbloused. They all looked ate up like soup sandwiches.

[@twinkieinyomowf6033]

the fact that they even have to respond to a question of their standards dropping means something prompted the question in the first place... likely their standards dropping lol

[@Jbainbridge5]

They fired everyone back in 2013 when they were bitching about this.

[@imasking1658]

The number one most useful life skill you learn in basic training is how to be effective under stress. The stress is necessary.

[@JamesonsTravels]

the new army is cheating the kids from a great life experience. i wont change a thing. i deserved every beating and save me later in life from many bad calls.

[@SaviorCross]

💯

[@johnfisher8401]

just wait until these recruits are actually in combat, they will be fucked.

[@labvampire]

Amen!

[@jamallabarge2665]

@@johnfisher8401 They'll be undertrained, some will die because of it. The survivors will come back angry at their crummy training.

[@michaelrivers5213]

Yelling and screaming, lack of food/sleep, being exhausted and yet still having to function and do your job was to simulate the stresses of combat. It serves its purpose.

[@JamesonsTravels]

its such a short period that the kids come out of better. life lesson on what they can tolerated and very short time frame.

[@Zebra_3]

NKoreans don't scream, they'll work you to death, but they don't scream.

[@davidkimball4415]

Exactly. If we do end up in a hot war with Russia or China, we’re going to be as unprepared as we were on the outset of WWII.

[@Crackshotsteph]

How to handle organized chaos.

[@VL1975]

Thanks Captain Obvious. Now give me 20. lol

[@devildog17013]

As a graduate of Parris Island in 1990, all I can say is, "WTF is this s**t ?!?!?!?" The objective of Boot Camp/Basic Training is to teach you how to react under stress. If you're never put under stress, how TF are you supposed to know what to do when it happens?

[@willardlentz3044]

They canceled the shark attack because all of the crybabies raised 8in a participation trophy soft enviroment

[@outtahere321]

Amen brother Marine.

[@georgemartinezjr]

This Do to the New Biden Format

[@TheMikepatota]

They’re not going to know, they’re going to have to learn on the fly and learn some extremely harsh lessons in the absolute most devastating way possible.

[@nickgale1070]

Exactly!!!!!!

[@cecilchristopher5092]

I'm a Vietnam vet, this training will get a lot of young people killed in the next war. It is a hell of a lot better to learn in basic and AIT how to deal with stress. Learning in combat is a day late and a dollar short.

[@silvershamrock5489]

@Chris Davis hahaha mans wants the receipts

[@sumone124]

And a soldier dead!

[@HTCvideos]

Just Canon fodder at this point. Throwing bodies at a conflict

[@beyondbackwater4933]

@@HTCvideos have you been paying attention, they aren't getting enough people in the army let alone have enough for cannon fodder

[@TheBros2theend]

God bless heal and save you

[@matthewcreech8259]

Actually, the concept of yelling at recruits was created during Valley Forge. This is when Baron Von Steuben took 100 men and turned them into a highly disciplined unit to train others. It constituted yelling at them and making them do things quickly under stress. Because, like it or not, that's combat.

[@iankeller4839]

Makes you a better person all around. Showed in sports like football 20-30 years ago before it went soft how boys become men and take stress.

[@matthewcreech8259]

@@iankeller4839 Exactly! It's amazing how someone can literally grow up in 8 to 13 weeks doing it old school.

[@rouninpanda6318]

Scream at them in basic, so they're not affected by it in combat. Seems similar to me of training horses not to spook around gunfire and explosions. Let's just make a completely unprepared military...

[@dbuck1964]

It’s not just about screaming at them in individually, it’s about the way the collective stress causes the group to pull together and function more cohesively and effectively.

[@johnshelton5998]

Train hard fight easy.

[@Josh-ei5zd]

The army going woke is absolutely a contributing factor of lower recruitment numbers but the fact that young people have grown up watching our military being deployed in highly questionable foreign wars and then seeing the government not taking care of those veterans after they come home is another big contributing factor.

[@ayalewdessieabebe]

👁️

[@osirisasar2392]

If you think about it, or served. It's all pretty questionable. Of course you learn later, but then it's too late. A private does what it's told lol, and no longer matters. Whatever America needs. Merica

[@denno3124]

That whole going woke thing is a joke. The nonstop deployments and two decades of war did it. Recruiting was already down...it got worse.

[@Ilearnedtodayy]

Yeah im sure not joining im better off teaching myself.

[@gregorylatta8159]

If when we lose the moral upper hand we will end up like Rome.

[@elorusk]

"...you are not relevant in our Army anymore..." that is the saddest phrase i've ever head uttered by a grown man.

[@phil4483]

Sad that NCOs and Senior NCOs have to regurgitate the General's BS.

[@clv2015]

General softy needs to go back to war college and actually re learn what it means to be in a fighting force🤦‍♂️

[@santijauregui459]

He says that like it actually means something. He’ll be out soon enough and remember that sooner or later we all become “irrelevant” in the military, only some did more ass kissing then others.

[@CPO-Snarky]

Not so sure that was a grown 'man'.

[@thekdubya2848]

As a US Army vet I'm not only saddened but also ashamed of what has happened to the military.

[@ayalewdessieabebe]

🥺

[@lyssgoddess]

Me too bro ❤ me too. It’s disgraceful They continue to make our soldiers weak not woke

[@ltravail]

It's a microcosm of what's happened to the country.

[@deathhexxxgaming3431]

Same here brother

[@rossbrown9768]

Amen brother

[@thetrailoutthere]

The enemy does not care about your feelings or your "root cause situation". Liabilities in training right here.

[@JamesonsTravels]

but i have a rainbow flag on my shoulder...instead of a usa flag, am i ok now?

[@thetrailoutthere]

@@JamesonsTravels let me run that by my dictator real quick....yeah no! 😆

[@Zebra_3]

@@JamesonsTravels how does your inner wacko woke warrior feel? 🏳‍🌈

[@boondocker7964]

@@JamesonsTravels Nooooo! Put the Stars and Stripes on your shoulder.

[@AmserEvans]

You're absolutely right, in real war if you have a soft military you're gonna get your ass beat

[@hakeemtarpley2998]

He’s 100% right!!!! People join the service to toughen up!! Not to get softer!!

[@arnoldvezbon6131]

@Chris Davis Ivan is currently grinding your PMCs in Bakmut to dust. Don't be an idiot you all are to soft to face the bear.

[@markmcgoveran6811]

The army doesn't want the kind of people that used to get all the time. They're trying to recruit smart.

[@hakeemtarpley2998]

@@markmcgoveran6811 sad times. Hopefully our leaders know what they’re doing.

[@markmcgoveran6811]

@@hakeemtarpley2998 I'm sure they know what they're doing but I'm also sure it's pretty much self-serving.

[@markmcgoveran6811]

They joint so they can go to school for free.

[@guyring8912]

Went through BCT-OSUT in 1986. Drill Sargeants were complete PT STUDS! They were mean & would cuss, call names, destroy barracks and have troops then prepare for inspection in 1 hour. We walked everywhere unless schedule required riding on cattle cars. They made soldiers out of us. Great experience and we felt like we accomplished something worthy.

[@lzcontrol]

We had "drill sergeants". They were PT studs and a few of them could spell basic English words.

[@lombardi1969]

My oldest brother went to Fort Jackson in the summer of 1975.He told me stories about how tough his drill sergeants were.They were Vietnam veterans and they didn't have any problems enforcing discipline on stupid privates.

[@indycharlie]

All our DS at Knox 69 were CIB holding VNV's . They knew what they were preparing us for !

[@chuckdeuces911]

He probably also lied to you. People always lie about how bad their experience was..

[@cedcampbell47012]

@@chuckdeuces911 Were you in the military in 75? Vietnam vets DS's are have crazed and brutally cruel. They are pissed at the world for the most part.

[@davidcook680]

You mean fort relaxin Jackson. Easiest bootcamp in all of the army.

[@thehardknock]

@@davidcook680 this is so true😂 they get their phones like 3 times a week

[@jamesmorgan818]

As a 13 yr Army Veteran and Former Drill, this just hurts.

[@erikarabie]

Apparently you couldn't suck it up and do your 20 to retirement haha 🤣

[@lyssgoddess]

Thank you for ur service bro -fellow vet

[@noahdunaway]

As a 2 1/2 year Army veteran this makes me 🤮

[@michaelcrow6943]

@@erikarabie Have you?

[@kyvian251]

@@erikarabie try being a drill instructor and then tell me that you should do 20 years of it.

[@captindo]

Canadian Infantry veteran here. Our trade description is as follows.. To find and destroy the enemy, no matter the season, weather, or terrain. We kill, that's the point, and you need to train your military as such. If you hate that aspect, don't join, it's something you will have to live with. Just being honest. Cheers from Canada.

[@JamesonsTravels]

I love Canada Now for that exact statement. it's the only job. break shit and kill people while most supporting the effort.

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

​@@JamesonsTravels I'm also Canadian, our army may not be large, but it's really well trained, at least it used to be. They've banned gendered language a couple of years ago and added other woke policies.

[@somewhere6]

@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 The top end of the armed forces and the RCMP have been infected with ideologies AND corruption. This is bound to have a negative effect at the lower levels.

[@TaylorHaubrich]

Canadians y'all got big balls, big bad military? Why haven't you done anything about that tyrant Trudeau? Little balls.

[@somewhere6]

@@TaylorHaubrich Is that what you want? i.e. government changes by coup? The US, Australia, New Zealand, France, Germany and UK among many others are equally in need of a change at the top but once you have the military doing that, say good-bye to constitutional government.

[@itcamefromthe90s89]

My drill Sgts were infantry and a tank commander. The infantry drill was hard as hell and absolutely destroyed us. The tank commander was firm, and strong but also had a strong arm to teach and guide. They were both the best at their jobs and knew everything about what they did. Very thankful because it made me a better soldier.

[@carlariggs525]

you said it right. we are treating the military like teens who need a safe space and we can't hurt their feelings. if a real war happens; they will run like the wind or start crying for their mommies

[@ninjamasterbuilder8675]

If we had the drill sargents of today teaching the soldiers of WW2, Korea, Vietnam, or Afghanistan our army would be a complete failure

[@hellboy0189]

Tbh even russian military youth is different from the one of the soviet union. Many russian soldiers disobeyd orders and refused to fight.

[@We-Wuz-Great-201]

If America falls, we all fall. Don't let the shitbats get you down!

[@jayrum7303]

Treating recruits with kids gloves is a luxury a nation can afford when the nation has nuclear war ships and F-22s.

[@jackryan8588]

@@jayrum7303who do you think is going to operate those crafts? Crappy personnel lead to crappy operations.

[@AV8R_1]

You hit the nail on the head at 2:35. The WHOLE point is to start getting new recruits adapted to performing accurately and correctly and following orders under extremely chaotic, loud, high stress environments. And you only have 9 weeks to reprogram a lifetime of apathetic comfort and unaccountability and turn them into a soldier that can tune out the chaos and stress and successfully accomplish missions. The only way to do this is to bombard them with it relentlessly every waking hour until they adapt.

[@rh906]

Exactly. Will they be great at it? Depends on their upbringing and personality. But they will be 10 times better at it when put through basic properly.

[@Lucifurion]

Adapt or sink.

[@gord-tj6qs]

all you have to do is give them a video game. they'll tune out automatically. you think the red chinese are training like this, or the russians?

[@Truthaholokz]

@@gord-tj6qs lol, the Russians get about 2-3 weeks and then join the next "meat wave".

[@Lee-bp8sp]

Agreed. Weak military is a weak nation

[@richardlew3667]

I'm actually really saddened that our new generation of recruits will end up learning the hard and very costly way of what real warfare will be like.

[@Lonovavir]

Essentially the way the 29th infantry learned about war on Omaha Beach, amidst slaughter and chaos.

[@rh906]

COIN-era Army from 2003 to 2013+ would have learned that lesson the hard way too. Even if the Chinese are pushovers, that is a lot of dead weight (people who aren't going to have kids anyways) you need to chomp through before they finally quit.

[@obediahpolkinghorniii564]

With a bit of luck, they won't end up in a 20-year war against an invisible enemy, fought in a country that hates us, on behalf of whose citizens apparently don't even want a democratic government. ...and that wasn't even a real war.

[@obediahpolkinghorniii564]

@@matthewobrien4639 Stop helping.

[@hexkwondo]

They found out the hard way when the Ukraine war started.

[@mhc706]

“Get to the root cause of the situation” Sir you’re in the army, not a therapy camp

[@clv2015]

They are turning the military into a stress free business casual environment instead of an effective fighting force

[@KilldozerNY]

You used to feel a sense of pride and accomplishment finishing basic in any branch BECAUSE of the toughness stress salty language and yelling . Not many go through that process and it made you feel like you could handle yourself better .

[@danpress7745]

Jared, I'm USMC, 1966-1969. My DI's never yelled, but were combat veterans, the Senor DI went through Korea and Nam. They. also, lead from the front, getting in the mud with us.But, never yelled.

[@steverichards7469]

Ejection port closed goddammit!!! Every single one of them were open!!! WTF please tell me infantry training is not another day care center. Thank God for leathernecks!! SEMPER FI !!!

[@manoman0]

Maybe it's a good thing what's happening. The army is being made inoperable.

[@alejandronopasanada5302]

Robots of old felt that way, the new robots need new programming but it’s all just poor people with few options being adjusted.

[@thevet2009]

Regular Army retired with 26 years...The Army has an identity crisis. It constantly changes its standards, uniforms, training and even its motto. The Army has allowed external conflicting pressures to cause confusion and loss of focus. Identity begins with blood and sweat in supporting the mission, goals and values of the organization...All held in sacred trust from countless sacrifices made on battlefields of the past.

[@quickzilver333]

POLITICS!

[@josiahwyncott7519]

Some decades ago the radicals in Washington realized the military is a perfect laboratory for imposing their utopian bullshit on large numbers of people. Get the Presidency or the Pentagon? The military is your toy.

[@CD-vb9fi]

They didn't "allow" anything. They got told to do these things. Your body is property of the US government while you serve.

[@CD-vb9fi]

@kevinallies1014 "he is talking about “they” as the Army as an institution." Whom composes the body of the Army? Does the Air Force control the Army? It was my understanding that the members of the Army compose the Institution. You can only serve one master, not two.

[@davidkimball4415]

We pride ourselves in our doctrine, but our doctrine is constantly changing.

[@allenlardieri7347]

We started with 32 Men and only 17 of us was left for graduation. We got cussed , pushed ,roughed up by our Drills. Ill never forget that experience. They were the best.

[@bigmarkthe1]

They make pu. Ys now

[@jRex918]

abuse is never ok, even if its from the drill sergeants. and they wonder why everybody is so messed up in the head nowadays. the constant abuse from their abusive parents, abusive classmates, and abusive bosses. always being told that they will never be good enough. it messes up people's self esteem. they really start to believe all the put downs. that they are not good enough and they never will be good enough.

[@blackriflear15]

@jRex918 the problem is not that people are truly stressed, it's that people nowadays are told that they are a victim of something. Just like a muscle, you have to build up your ability to handle stressful situations.

[@rondolavino7778]

If you can’t handle some yelling you WILL NOT do good in the stress of war. Come out of your pillow fort

[@ninjamasterbuilder8675]

They would make real soldiers out of civilians

[@samsmusichub]

It's crazy that 2024 Army boot camp is easier than 2008 Air Force boot camp.

[@sidanx7887]

But they POGs - who cares

[@Popsthechute]

Keep dreaming. I'll give you this....the air force is a great alternative to military service

[@SuperScorpio1030]

This is going to cause a lot of Mom’s tears for sons and daughters.

[@bobbys4327]

lol....and they are one and the same

[@Im_Not_A_Dad]

This is a massive deal. Hard times are coming and my generation and younger show that people have never been softer.

[@dookieheadhead]

Hard times make hard men. Winter is comiiiiiiiiiing. You just waiy till the chinese get the oportunity

[@cappuccinosnephew1382]

​@@dookieheadhead Lol the Russians are already leveling up, not just the Chinese. This ain't about just the Chinese or the Russians anymore. Knowing that India is turning their back on us and making a new currency with China, Russia, and Brazil means that we can't even trust all of our allies. The US is about to be in survival mode.

[@txpatriot7073]

The Army is adapting to people instead of having people adapt to the Army.

[@kylerehkamp2793]

That's not how that works. The Army sets standards that is reachable by all people, it is on that person to meet. If they fail it is a failure on them not the Army. Why it continues to lower the standards to "adapt" to society blows my mind

[@firefly9838]

@@kylerehkamp2793 that's fine until so few people meet that standard that they don't have anywhere near their quotas.

[@kylerehkamp2793]

@@firefly9838 would you rather lower standards to meet a quota or have a smaller army of soldiers who meet or exceed said standard and perform better at their jobs? People will always line up to join for whatever reasons, but I'd take the ones who can meet and exceed standards than lower them just to meet a number.

[@jessehernandez8041]

Not my ARMY. Today's Generation is weak.

[@georgemartinez1720]

That s not how it works if Something works don't FIx it

[@robertfreestone414]

You're spot on with this. A lot of top three enlisted ranks explained during my retirement brief why they decided to retire in lieu of accepting their promotions because of the Army's softening and senior leaders became fed up and retired in record numbers. The speaker asked why we were retiring: the emerging WOKE environment, fatherless kids with unrealistic expectations and need to be accommodated, etc.

[@randallknapp7528]

Young recruits want, demand, and deserve the toughest challenge of their lives - Anything less than that treats recruits as less than who they strive to become.

[@nikoc8968]

and also sets them up for failure in battle, which they truly believing theyre "trained" for...

[@Tracyannbanks_123]

This video doesn’t fade me, only the string will make it

[@Tracyannbanks_123]

Id love to know you better, thats only if you dont mind cos you seems to be a nice and very cool person

[@ninjamasterbuilder8675]

The army is like a challenge, this makes us want to do well and drill sargents are meant to push us with their rough methods to success, they aren't training baby sitters, drill sargents are training soldiers ready for any problem they face, that is a drill sargents real duty

[@robertspeicher5047]

1964...July 8th Lackland AFB Texas. Basic training. Wore 1936 web belt with WWII canteen and cover. The only water source when thirsty. WWII open bay barracks. Drilling one day and our flight was just not " clicking"...Summer time , there was a flag system to tell the base about temperatures. The flag to end all outside activity was up. Don't remember if the flag color was red or black. The stop flag was up because the temperature had reached the max. Our TI stopped us the drill pad. Walked over to office and had that flag replaced by the " okay" flag. We marched in that heat on a black top drill pad. It wasn't long before we were " clicking" like one.

[@JamesonsTravels]

I was lead by Vietnam SNCOs. zero bullshit and until Clinton little politics pushed on the military. This new version is not going to be effective .WE have some of the most combat tested troops (or did) to train men to fight. sad to see it crumble.

[@barryfletcher7136]

Black flag = too hot for outdoor training.

[@bigbake132]

Black flag means no training outside, usually just classroom training on those days.

[@bud2769]

Hated black flags days, we tried to get out of them. At Camp Upshur Quantico in the late 70’s black flag protocol was to lay fully uniformed and motionless on top of your rack. A pleasure on top of your wool blanket in our WW2 Quonset hut Easy bake ovens. It was better to be outside sweating your nuts off.

[@whatadollslife]

worst thing that happened to me in Army basic was when we jogged for PT as a company in uniform with weapon and even tho it was 6am ,it was in Alabama and already hot ....someone would fall out about 6 streets down in the run and the DIs would make the entire company run around the block until that person got off the street and back into formation for the run ....running around the block for no reason except for them to say that soldier has to complete the run with ya'll .....everybody yelling for that person to get up and get back in line hahahaha I've seen cops do this same training in the civilian world / hardship creates unity

[@thisfamilydoeseverything]

This hurts these kids in the long run. It’s sad really, do they not realize what they signed up for? The end game is to be battle ready at all times! Handle situations under pressure…. I’m worried. I’ve seen what’s new recently in the Marines & its not much better.

[@waynejohnson3214]

Without stress, pain, and fear, new recruits will never be prepared to face bullets. Most of these future Drill Sgts look like they need remedial PT before being accepted into Drill Sgt training.

[@markjordan4130]

Yes

[@THX--nn5bu]

These Drill Sergeants of today's Army seem more like Wal-Mart managers to me.

[@powderriver2424]

When a two star general has to say that the Army is as tough as ever you know something is wrong, just the same if a general officer said anything to the contrary they'd be dealt with as well.

[@scoobydoo5439]

It's called a particular two star Generals is bucking to get a extra star put on his collar.

[@StolenValor24]

It a 2 star General is nowadays highly decorated college degree student fresh outta of college

[@donnydorito]

3:28 They want to customize individual training and avoid "one-size fits all" approach by creating a standardized training program that applies to everyone.....WTF?!?

[@georgewelford8648]

The entire purpose of early BASIC training is to break you down, everyone., all on the same plane. To build the ability to work together excel together. Then build you up. Regardless of your trade or where you are going, where you come from. You are a soldier first! It’s called Basic. If they weren’t so hard, you would never understand what it means to be one. The Truth Hurts. It’s not about you. Go ARMY.

[@eddieBoxer]

Yes spent 20 years as combat arms Infantryman / paratrooper, they will learn more at their permanent unit, go to Airborne school, Infantry school, ranger school, still high standards been there, this video doesn't fade me only the strong will make it.

[@TheMetoyou1]

If you can not take the drill then you will not cope in combat ! Unbelievable what is going on !

[@NLBusiness391]

It’s almost like our combat readiness is being intentionally sabotaged by bad actors looking to weaken/destroy our nation from within.

[@seaneustace9838]

How many soldiers actually have a PT patch in the army percentage wise? That’s probably the percentage of real soldiers you’ve had at any given time. 90% of the military does jobs that civilians traditionally did for the military so it doesn’t really matter if you’re a quartermaster can you shoot a rifle if you can pack your parachute or amend it, so it works next time. But whoa to them if they encounter the enemy without the infantry around, and that is why we train them all to be soldiers anyway when you can no longer get the elite 10 or 20% that you need to actually fight wars, the whole system breaks down. Following commands and orders being obeyed are necessary for the modern military. But the kind of people who get into trouble and these kind of systems are also the kind of people that take initiative during war time. Without an economy in the future because of the population, how are we going to maintain the sea and air power that has really made us great as a Military? to be atheistic lovers of pleasure. Did you think there was a future people who believes that things? The problem with degenerate says they don’t see that there is a generous and wants to rule over normal people and make their degeneracy, palatable and force acceptance on the rest of the population in the end all day cause it’s chaos. I’m talking to you, Bruce Jenner.

[@peted2770]

My Uncle went to Paris Island for Vietnam. He said his DI had a golf club with the head cut off for a swagger stick. The DI would "emphasize" some commands by applying the stick behind knees, into stomachs, and across backs. My Uncle said he was a slow learner and received a couple of solid kicks to go with everything else. He was a tough SOB but also a gentle giant and is missed.

[@TheKb117]

@@matthewobrien4639 abuse or bordering on hazing, it can separate the chaff from the seeds... the reason old soldiers are tougher.

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

And back then those things were solid metal instead of metal plated

[@kd741]

My uncle was big John! Went to Parris island in the early 60s and found out he wasn’t so big. Said it was the best thing that ever happened to him. Brought to reality and became a successful business owner after his enlistment

[@kd741]

@Chris Davis oh no! Forgot the second R in it, boo hoo

[@liamsandal6360]

@Chris Davis He misspelt it. Big deal.

[@theimperialist2686]

The military recruitment videos from the Russian and Chinese armies, compared to the US says it all.

[@RC.-]

They’re already developing robot soldiers

[@dogguy8603]

Albiet our tech against Russia has show who would win.

[@shadooks4774]

@@RC.- figuratively and literally

[@robertjeffcoat441]

@@dogguy8603 When the GPS system or technology is knocked out by an EMP then it's a soldier with a rifle and grenades. If you're only a button pusher then you're a casualty. You better be ready for hand to hand combat with an entrenching tool. Technology won't save you.

[@robertjeffcoat441]

@@RC.- When an EMP hits the terminators then flesh and blood soldiers better be ready for action. Have that entrenching tool ready for hand to hand combat. 🪖 💥

[@Bricklover007]

Wait the recruitment ad aimed at lesbos in 2020 didn’t help our military retain numbers??? Who would’ve guessed!?!?

[@Dj.MODÆO]

In early 1997 about 6 weeks into OSUT (12b U.S. army) our training battalion was assigned a female drill who was 50lbs overweight, fell out Dailey from PT, cursed more than a sailor, didn’t know anything about being a 12b and her constant screaming about utter nonsense was like nails on a chalkboard. Two days before graduating she disappeared without explanation and everyone assumed she’d been reassigned to a non combat MOS basic training. Three years later while assigned to the 65th Engr BN, 25th LID we got a new platoon Sgt and low and behold it was one of the NCOs who had been a drill sergeant at the 35th ENGR OSUT facility at Ft Leonardwood. One day me and one of the other E4s who had cycled through that OSUT class asked the new platoon Sgt what the hell happened to that female drill and why she was even there in the first place when our MOS was restricted to males only. He immediately started laughing and told us that she had been kicked out of the army for failure to pass PT test and being overweight and the only reason she had been sent to our OSUT in the first place was because she had been begging to be a DI in an OSUT combat MOS battalion and had a senator as a benefactor that pulled strings for her.

[@Notaghost603]

Jeeez man she had to senator go to bat for her

[@DapperSapper515]

@@TheElevenBravo20hey now… when there’s a minefield and you need somebody to blow it all hell, you call us! Isn’t we let the infantry sleep comfy at night. I’m all seriousness, thank you for your cervix, brother!

[@jaydavet9740]

Glad to hear from a form 35th Eng. brother!!!!! Me and my lil bro was Gulf 35th 2nd Plt. 2004. "Essayons" "Sappers Lead the Way"!!!!!

[@kd741]

@Chris Davis you again! Air Assault air assault! Airborne! Air Cav! All that air up there! Lol

[@davidwelday3276]

12B 85-95, we had so many people in our basic training class we couldn't fit in the brick barracks and had to go into the old metal open bay barracks. It wasn't bad at all except when taking a deuce all the commodes were side by side with a sink across from them and open bay showers

[@Xenophon1]

My old boss was a US Army vet who was regular army in Hawaii before Pearl Harbor. He was shot in the stomach on Saipan. He said that the regular Army before WWII was tough, and if you slacked off your sergeant would smack you in the chops.

[@Shaker1000]

Soldiers then dealt with their PTSD and walked it off. It's why PTSD was unknown in service members back then. They just sucked it up. Now everyone has it just from being yelled at and it's now documented.

[@alexref955]

It's not democratic

[@gibbsm]

Roman legions were way tougher than your old boss, they would have just killed him for being weak.

[@gibbsm]

@@Shaker1000 wow, way to denigrate those with PTSD. where'd you get your degree?

[@Xenophon1]

@@gibbsm Rome fell to the barbarians in 476 A.D.

[@lanedunn5726]

Nothing says "combat ready" like throwing up a stress card. Cause your enemy will totally give you a break from that "stressful environment." BCT needs to be like Marine Corps boot camp. I've been to both army BCT and Marine boot camp. Army BCT literally felt like summer camp.

[@sharkclub1]

They don't intimidate me..

[@ayalewdessieabebe]

Just imagine al Qaeda and ISIS saying okay we'll cut you a break u can catch my breath and get a water break 😂😂😆😆🤣🤣🤣 I'd be weak 😆😆 @Lane Dunn

[@longshootingshow2163]

@@sharkclub1 yeah, the army’s gotten soft

[@williamdavis9562]

@Lanedunn5726. Yea my man don't you know that Russian and Chinese troops in the heat of battle will back off if they see a stressed out soldier. In fact they might even ask them what their pronouns are and apologize if they misgendered them. They'll also allow the female troops to shoot at them from closer distances (to fight systemic misogyny)

[@denno3124]

Stress cards are like big foot...only heard of it, never seen it.

[@wolfhors3_660]

My understanding was that boot camp was supposed to be so bad that war was a relief. It kept soldiers alive in a conflict.

[@MickAngelhere]

A mate of mine was in the Australian Army back in the eighties. They went to the States to do some exercises with the US Army in the desert somewhere, on the first day they were waiting for it to start when word came through that it was canceled. When the Australians enquired as to why the response was that the temperature was over thirty degrees Celsius and they don’t do training exercises in that kind of heat. The Australians were gobsmacked as that was normal for them and guess what the average temperature was in Iraq & Afghanistan

[@davidgoodnow269]

Yup.

[@davidgoodnow269]

@@timmattle4730 The ambient temperature for shutting-down activities or exercises is a variable because the military uses something called "wet bulb temperature" as humidity is a major factor. High humidity preventing perspiration from evaporating will neutralize someone quickly if air temperature is higher than body temperature. I've worked in 130°F heat, but it was dry. Generally though, yes, lazy butt-covering officers will curtail activity when ambient exceeds body, because they haven't planned how to deal with it and assume their subordinates are as incompetent and lazy as they are themselves, and don't want soldiers having heat stroke. Casualties during exercises are bad for the Officer Evaluation Report.

[@analogman9697]

The mommyocracy of America is in full swing.

[@RRRRRRRRRRR956]

​@@davidgoodnow269doubt it was humid in the desert

[@davidgoodnow269]

@@RRRRRRRRRRR956 Did you have a point, or are you just posting to see if anyone will give you any attention? I'm also guessing you have not spent enough time in deserts to be aware of how it feels after a rain there.

[@noahmooneyham7526]

Just graduated army basic training. We definitely bitched all the time about basic being way too easy. It was to the point where even our drill sergeants were telling us to wait until we got to our units to do real training.

[@robertgiudice4854]

Fort Jackson?

[@noahmooneyham7526]

@@robertgiudice4854 Benning

[@islander790]

Thank you for your service and your honesty. The army has done you no favours thus far by making training too easy. The next fight you may find yourself in could be the one where you are wishing you’d been trained harder. We had a saying in the British Army ”train hard fight easy“. Good luck and have a great career 🫡

[@ciguana2mlgprovideo388]

Yea same here

[@Lonovavir]

Cause learning on the job or worse in combat is a great idea 🙄🙄.

[@lancelot0007]

Aust vet here. The role of the infantry. To seek out and close with the enemy To kill or capture him To seize and hold ground To repell attack by day or by night Regardless of season, weather, or terrain

[@iankeller4839]

Did some training with Australian army soldiers. They're some guys you don't F with.

[@michaelspringer6974]

Hura brother.

[@chucksneed5405]

What if AUS citizens were designated as the "enemy"?

[@jerryrobbins5013]

Man this makes me want to cry. When we went through, basic was cool because it was hard. And it made you hard. It was like taking a dull knife and making it razor sharp. How many moms have you heard talk about their sons (and daughters) coming home after boot camp a completely different person. An adult. They're robbing these kids. And its going to get them killed. When the drills have no military bearing whatsoever.... sigh

[@sublime12201]

1994-2001 as an engineer it was very possible to be physically attacked by chain of command...no paper trail....

[@JamesonsTravels]

of course and it worked for nearly all involved. tuning up for mistakes without hurting someones career was effective. outliers ruined it in the media.

[@firstnamelastname5897]

This is the most assinine thing ever. How are the new recuits going to fight in battle if they can't handle their feelings being hurt! 🤯

[@DavesArchives]

The tug of war policies being placed upon our armed forces must be absolutely nerve wracking for armed forces leadership within the ranks. Having to comply to these nonsense changes and adjust so drastically must be having some effect on moral for sure.

[@JamesonsTravels]

moral is terrible. talking to a lot of guys in now. young enlisted. all types. its not looking good.

[@hulkangry5546]

Well maybe the so called leadership should stand up and fight against it instead of being a careerist pig and constantly taking it in the ass. Our enemies smiles are just getting wider and wider.

[@archibaldmaclaine6506]

@@JamesonsTravels A WEAK military invites attack. Whereas attacking a strong military is NOT something anyone would ever do. The whole of the western world has never been weaker not even in the events leading up to WW2.

[@ronaldbobeck1026]

Okay Vietnam veteran here. Things were so bad in Vietnam that the military was forced to draft and enlist mental category 4. Back then it mentions someone with an IQ. Of 85. Yes, the average IQ is 100 -110 . Just the facts . Believe me you could tell who was a 4 no disrespect intended to them , but, they had a harder time doing simple tasks .

[@archibaldmaclaine6506]

@@ronaldbobeck1026 Looking at the state of society now I`d say that the average IQ is now more like category 4. Certainly it seems that some of our so called leaders do NOT even reach that high!

[@somewhere6]

Ideally, the best DI's would be volunteers who are also screened to ensure that they are up to the task. That is true with most jobs. As for why there is a drop in recruitment, it is likely that there are multiple reasons. Inappropriate ideologies, lowered standards and major strategic errors have to be among them. Lowering standards and softening training is a recipe for disaster. Combat is a shock and is merciless. If one is going there, one is better off being hardened up to it alongside team members who are likewise prepared.

[@JamesonsTravels]

Marine Corps makes it an upside duty for the lifer. Not a pick'em for people who dont want to be there.

[@davidgoodnow269]

All solid points. Letting idiots use the military as a stage for social engineering exercises is, well, idiocy.

[@jodyguy708]

My monthly volunteer fire dept training seems tougher than this, maybe because my Capt is former FDNY and former Marine

[@JamesonsTravels]

volunteer firefighters training way harder, shit cub scout camp outs look harder

[@georgesykes394]

A 2007-2009 era Army BCT would Crush a present day BCT in a force on force exercise.

[@JamesonsTravels]

I have zero doubt. just looking at the product I see on base today compared to 10 years ago. it's shocking.

[@charlesartificer2158]

1990`s soldier here, you are 100% correct. Just got one question about this training. Where in the hell are their helmets!? Every bit of training we did it was in full gear. Running around without a helmet would have earned us a 30 minute pt session. This woke army is so soft.

[@beachhoppr]

2001 era BCT here. Sigh.

[@jcalohio]

WTH, a 1962 BCT Company would annihilate these guys, attack their homeland and it would become a wasteland if they don’t run out of ammo first! God help them if they ran into a Company of Marines from 1962! Would probably have to reconvene the Nuremberg trials these current soldiers would be so mutilated.

[@omarali262]

Well that was also war time

[@danafloraladd]

Imagine next time we go to war… and our men get scared when the enemy yells at them.

[@TheSineater863]

Honestly my whole life I've been eager too join the army. Both parents were enlisted, told me all kinds of cool tough stories about training. It worked something in me to make them proud and want to do what they did better by going into this. I've been trying to train physically and mentally rigorously to simulate basic and be prepared to breeze through it. But the military changed so much just from 2020 to know. It worries me that the word soldier doesn't have the same grit and merit and myself and others won't get the full potential from the military

[@TheUSARMYINFANTRY]

Dont do it!!!!

[@TheUSARMYINFANTRY]

Join a civilian defense force. Chances are thats what going to happen.

[@BlueNelso279]

It was one of the most dissapointing experiences of my life. Once you get hurt you're useless and they throw you aside like trash.

[@RoCK3rAD]

If you were serious you’d have done it but go back to your video game

[@TastyTurkeyBreast]

Just do it, focus on serving your country and not the noise. Do what is in your heart.

[@MsMadmax1]

The Army is woke. My husband served in the U.S. Army from 1987 until 2009 when he retired. He said he wouldn't join the Army today. When you're training for combat, it requires a certain mindset. You can't worry that a soldier's feelings are going to be hurt, or about misgendering someone. The Army, like all Armies has to train you to follow orders and trust your fellow soldiers. War isn't pretty or fun or full of touchy-feely Hallmark moments. You are being trained to engage in combat and that will include taking the life of the enemy before he takes yours. That is the nature of war--people die. And if you're worry about all this woke crap, you're not going to be prepared to effectively do your duty as a soldier in the United States Army.

[@DM-kl4em]

Yes sir! If a recruit shuts down while a drill sergeant is screaming at him, what the hell is he going to do when gunshots are ringing out and shells are exploding???

[@Vampyr3Bones]

The low recruiting numbers, tying the hands of drill sergeants/DIs/RDCs, and lowering standards for entry is a National security risk. We will lose our edge in the next major conflict if this continues

[@the_jarric]

they even lowered spec ops standarts to let women in

[@bushwackcreek]

Gee... way back in the 70's, we didn't have "PT Gear", we did Pt in our utility uniform. The only allowance for comfort, in the Coast Guard was wearing issued sneakers, which caused many cases of fallen arches in our company. Wimpy, wimpy, wimpy.

[@223dmr7]

Dude should not have said anything about Skinning cats. Some people identify as cats and might take offense Lol

[@JamesonsTravels]

lol. true. I try to separate Odins Men from this. it can be hard with the new style of military training. SF means more now than ever.

[@223dmr7]

😆 🤣

[@Terminxman]

Insane how people IN the military either don't understand, or pretend not to understand that the POINT of basic and the stress is to make you learn to operate under it

[@OrbInDaFrame]

Problem is, its mostly the Senior enlisted and people at the top who change things like these

[@JN1-506]

It's senior leaders. Anyone either CPT or below on the officer side, or SSG and below on the enlisted side, 100% disagree with this.

[@Terminxman]

@Chris Davis Yeah all 3 people here are pretending to be hard, why do you say that?

[@paulalmond9365]

I'm an Airforce veteran, signed up shortly after 9-11. Don't know what it's like now, but my basic was about 30 times more difficult than what I'm seeing here! Army, you can do better....

[@TSUNAMICali]

Thank you for your service sir

[@Tastybones]

You're right, units will keep the best people operational if they can. The army will still need people to fill these vocations though. One way to motivate people to take on such vocations is to make it mandatory for personnel to serve in such roles for a period of time as a prerequisite for promotions to certain ranks.

[@jackoff4583]

Looks like summer camp to be honest. Looks really relaxed and some sort of camping game.

[@rouninpanda6318]

This makes the Navy's basic from the 2010's look like spec ops.

[@kenacosta1420]

that sounds sad but true

[@ortho-g9826]

Exactly.

[@masterchiefpettyofficerspa3646]

2018 era soldier here. Not saying my basic is any tougher but the fact that yelling and cussing is no longer a thing makes all the difference trying to stimulate a battlefield situation.

[@JamesonsTravels]

at a min just get people listening to start. nothing can sim people wanting to kill you but stress card and soft tones are not the right direction.

[@jenniferhiemstra5228]

I’m not sure where people Are getting the idea this isn’t a thing anymore, but my drills at basic (this year I’ll add) were 1000% yelling and cussing up storms ALL the time.

[@ARMASOG]

@@jenniferhiemstra5228 they're putting fake stuff on camera to not scare off people from enlisting in the military I'm guessing.

[@AllSeeingHeart]

..yo not getting it; yo gotta get to the ROOT 'cause of YOUR GENDER, to SURVIVE. lol. Strength! GODspeed!

[@justinm.5089]

The problem is the army is so down on people they just don’t want to risk scaring off what little recruits they have. When we actually get involved with a conflict, there will be another culture change for sure.

[@JamesonsTravels]

the army was not down until they went full sjw in the ranks. once they started this guys choose else where to be tested.

[@thomasjefferson7584]

@@JamesonsTravels the guy actually has a point. We went alphabet and gender equality Woke first. Then we plummeted the standards

[@carlslovinski3224]

You’re creating a force full of marshmallows!!

[@vegan-cannibal714]

I'm honestly embarrassed of what's become of my Army. We are here to turn you people in to warriors, so if you start to feel stressed let us know so we can put you in a safe space. War stressful naaa just let your enemy know so he can back off and let you take the time you need to process your feelings.

[@jordanf8797]

i'm embarrassed that people still think we fight for freedom, what a joke.

[@vegan-cannibal714]

@@jordanf8797 I doubt you could find a vet that would say he went to war for freedom that wasn't being sarcastic about it.

[@erikarabie]

It's not your Army

[@chuckshartz2722]

@@vegan-cannibal714 you would be amazed the number of them who hold that belief. These are also the same guys who believe the VA is a welfare system that only the "feint of heart" use

[@DWNicolo]

@@erikarabie guess what? It is.

[@HarryHafsak]

Once you become an army NCO you have to do drill sergeant or recruiter time. It’s not about sending the hacks out of the unit.

[@allistermcginlay6476]

West Point used to be designed to pressurise the candidates and more senior candidates made life difficult for those junior to themselves, learning to adapt to stress created some pretty good officers. Remember a film when someone said about a officer, "he made a mess of things but all his wounds are in the front and he asked for his wounded to be cared for first!"

[@funbun8248]

This isn’t about West Point

[@MS-1994]

Why are you talking about West Point?

[@cidcampeador7922]

@@MS-1994 Ring knockers think they are Mustangs due to their Disney basic camp they do there.

[@johndoe-ln4oi]

The new crocheting class during basic is awesome!

[@daidhaid]

The effeminate drill sgts are a nice touch.

[@LongWalkerActual]

When they relax the standards for Air Assault, Airborne, Ranger & Special Forces schools we will pay a heavy price...

[@boosterstephanie5700]

Even just regular infantry. We will pay a price.

[@garygeorge9648]

When?

[@LongWalkerActual]

@@garygeorge9648 Are you implying that is has already been done?

[@garygeorge9648]

@@LongWalkerActual Yes.

[@darylhopkins9796]

The side effects of the woke agenda.

[@rp1645]

YES, everything you said was right on the mark.

[@Arkansan_Rebel]

My buddy just got through BCT, he's goin' infantry. There was a kid there who admitted to a DS that he wouldn't be able to pull the trigger on someone. It's soft now.

[@JamesonsTravels]

immediate failure to adopt discharge. just saying that should be a boot

[@myquad]

They are so desperate now for bodies that they don’t kick anyone out. Went through basic last year and everyone graduated infantry osut regardless of the ability to pass ruck marches or fitness tests.

[@christopherhazell420]

@@myquad did you have fi males in your company or platoon?

[@user-wr3vt8uq4s]

@@myquad Holy crap! That won't stand up to the rigor of war, even on a limited scale. Next big troop deployment will be a massacre.Or "leadership" will have to admit that they have no real forces to deploy. What an embarrassment.

[@TheOpethOfMastodon]

That kid will get put in the training room, so don't worry.

[@mudflapmitchell1362]

This Business Insider video is the ultimate detractor to any potential recruit that is worth a damn

[@JamesonsTravels]

the army let this footage come off post. they control everything and this was the best. just wow

[@spccarp1918]

The damn reflective belts get me every time. The same guy that said we needed to wear those in a combat zone must have helped implement that there.

[@garygeorge9648]

Come on now! Haven't you seen George Washington crossing the Delaware River wearing his reflective belt?

[@tps_sp]

the Iraqi sniper with his SVD: "my brother, do you see that?"

[@matthewbeddall7182]

"Reflective belt psa" from the youtube channel action figure therapy.

[@NotMyGuns]

Army wears reflective to avoid conflict, Marines wear bullseyes to tease the enemy.

[@indycharlie]

@@NotMyGuns 😂

[@tyronehurst3316]

If it's volunteer, you will never have enough people. In the Corps, commanders don't get to choose who they send. HQMC does that.

[@lewisricekrispy2]

What happens if you're getting shot at and your NCO screams at you, maybe even says some kind of rude word in order for you to start shooting back? Even worse, what if the leaders have never been in a position where they have to shout and sceam, and find themself in a position where they should be able to make those decisions under stress, but have no reliable experiance to push beyond it. This has the potential to back fire pretty catastrophically, and it will be the young kids in body bags.

[@user-im3vb3vt3g]

This is how empires collapse, from within. It was a good run America.

[@JamesonsTravels]

and now we can record the collapse in real time.

[@ReneMacias1978]

Agreed

[@dznArro]

very true.

[@auntrayjones39]

Totally agree the current Soldiers aren’t mentally, physically ready especially for combat environment. They’re failing these troops

[@christopherhazell420]

Lord help us...🙏

[@johnnytower6169]

Your face says it all We’ve got the same problems in the Australian defence force, it sucks

[@jdunbar2995]

This is absolutely sad my drill instructors at ft Benning had been tough and fair with us recruits back in 2002.

[@charlesodonnell2993]

All of my drill sergeants were in Viet Nam. They understood what we needed to be prepared for.

[@robbiesdad1]

mine were also Nam Vets.

[@edwardjoy3820]

Mine too, some of them were down right scary

[@RobKeez]

It doesn't matter how much time has passed, the reason everyone remembers their DS Names (DS Evans, DS Tripp) is because of the impact they had. Bet today's recruits won't remember a damn thing after boot.

[@Pays2Win]

Top brass is so far removed from reality it’s mind blowing. This is a serious issue and I’m seeing it play out everyday. The drills are being prompted what to say for these interviews.

[@alancranford3398]

Next--70% of Ranger School attendees are "selected" because of low numbers of volunteers.

[@JamesonsTravels]

why not. at this point.

[@edwardpate6128]

They need to watch the film Glory and the Irish/American drill Sergeant. He was hard as Hell on those guys in the Civil War training them.

[@byshopwilliams8256]

He was so hard on them they thought he was racist 😂

[@ichiara07]

you forgot the biggest change of all, WAIVERS TO WAZU, there are waiver for everything you can think of.

[@SkunkMonkey991]

My Dad joined the Army in December 1941 and retired in 1966 because he said the Army was becoming too soft.

[@sinisterisrandom8537]

Thank him foe his service many of us civi's would say. Even if he thinks he's just doing a job. He did defend the country from one multiple of several theaters of war.

[@quest4adventure495]

The upper echelon of the military is going to have to be completely removed and the military entirely rebuilt to fix this.

[@RockerWasRight]

Starting with Austin.

[@daveshaw2765]

So now, Gordon Ramsey would be a far better drill sargent? I'm speechless.

[@JohnCampos-uw1rh]

Yes, Chef!

[@fester7075]

Where's their kevlar helmets? What the hell happened to AR670-1? WHAT happened to the weight regulation?

[@billylewis1151]

One thing you see in successful training during war is that a smart military keeps their battle hardened veterans alive to train new recruits. Even Russia knows this and is moving their experienced soldiers to train the new replacements.

[@markdrake2715]

Like a lot of comments, the ability to pull through under stress is key. You can't lock up.

[@teklyfe2013]

We were cussed out while marching to range road. We were straight when we got to the range. Thank you drill sergeant!

[@urbanmonk-yh4tz]

the Marine Drill Instructor was among the Most Excellent Human Beings ive ever met, to date.

[@gabrielhansen5782]

Combat is extreme;y stressful and will follow you to your grave, images that you will never forget. By the drill sergeants causing a person to be in a stressful environment, you learn to do tasks in those difficult times and possibly save a fellow brother or sister's life while in combat.

[@kirishima2370]

This isn't going to be turned around now until it results in poor performance in war. Better to shrink and keep a core of warriors who 'can' rather than fluffing up with battalions full of those who can't or won't.

[@l-boi3004]

This just reminds me that my ROTC program was getting bogged down by so much regulations, before they got shutdown. That was like 10 years ago.