NEW Army Boot Camp is Terrifying (Marine Reacts)

[@JamesonsTravels]

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[@swnkyxoxo]

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[@matthewbarnes1259]

I love your content and have been following since < 9,000 subscribers although I've never commented until now.... I'm a serious night owl and am curious, is it possible, viable even, for you to do a video about what nighttime during boot camp or basic, even life in the barracks is like? Just asking, I seriously love what you do all the same!

[@AutoSanchezMusic]

god damn that game sucks

[@just8192]

no

[@tedeitel8060]

Sir I believe you play video games. As much as someone like myself would play that crap real men have better ways to waste time.

[@AngryCops]

Not me in the video, but I like that Drill SGT’s motivation.

[@eachann_7507]

Yooooooo acccc

[@kamrynsmart9151]

Love you ac

[@jr-a-cat]

They need to clone AC and let him do his stuff .

[@jadensawyer3172]

Wasn’t angry enough to be him

[@GrimmestOfReapers]

it would've made 100% better if you were in the video

[@Proxzima]

the drill sergeant trying to contain his laughter while saying "you shot it all, private" gets me every time

[@UglyJaguar]

Me too bro😂😂

[@seankingsland]

"How did that happen" You shot it all private 🤣😂 Not trying to Monday morning quarterback here but..I took tactical training under SF instructors. First thing we were taught was to keep track of every round we used. You can never recall a shot so you better be damned sure of where and how many go.

[@johnhildenbrand2642]

@@seankingsland Doing that while taking a class run by former SF is one thing, ratchet that stress up a bit and see how well you do with it. That's just a bit of stress, it gets even more difficult when your playing for real

[@akulkis]

@@johnhildenbrand2642 The point is to make counting your rounds a habit. If the is formed habit under low stress, then done again during moderate stress, you should be able to continue it during high stress. In high stress situations, soldiers revert to their training (if it's been well-rehearsed) and habits, because it's difficult to think, so going with the ready-made answer reduces the cognitive load. This is why fighting doctrine is important, and why training doctrine constantly changes to reflect changes in fighting doctrine. During the Iraq War, fighting doctrine evolved continuously, and changes in theater were communicated to the basic training and ait drill sergeants on a regular basis.

[@johnhildenbrand2642]

@@akulkis Trust me, I know. I served from 06-11 in the Infantry and spent 2 deployments in Afghanistan, and I don't care how well trained you are, when the close ambush happened, you were not counting rounds, the tactical adjustment that was made after the first incident was to count the rounds AFTER the incident, and then stack ammo in the HMMWV to make sure we had at least 2 or more times that amount available so that counting wasn't a necessary thing in that moment again. There comes a time where the stress gets so high that certain things are just not going to be possible, and PKM'S and 240's going back and forth at less than 100 meters was absolutely one of those times.

[@eriksalmon]

I did basic at Ft Benning in 1987 at the age of 17. I have to agree with the commentator, the shark attack shocked the hell out of me and set the tone for the rest of the training.

[@censorshipsucks9493]

Fort Sill, 1989. Same thing. Oh, and then when they were all done my platoon drill sergeant was not done with us. Oh, no private. We don't do regular pushups in my platoon. Diamonds! Diamonds are a private's best friend.

[@rbyq6398]

Ft Leonard wood 1987 the Army is a joke now compared to the past.

[@Doc_Martin_Monty]

Benning in 1990. Totally agree.

[@Ejk2969]

@@censorshipsucks9493 Same here, Ft. Sill 1990.

[@echevarriawilson]

I agree with you about having more training vs getting more high speed equipment. I also think they should've never gotten rid of the shark attack. I remember being yelled at and running hills at Ft. Benning with my bags over my head until I threw up. Reality sets in and things get real. No one was worried about thier "feelings". They just want to survive and become strong

[@thesocialistsarecoming8565]

A good bit of shock always helps reality set in. Im only in rotc, joined this college semester. And while it doesnt compare to the shark attack, It really f*cking set in what i had agreed to do when i was standing in formation at 0530 in the apfu Tee and shorts in 35 degree weather getting ready to run for the first time.

[@janaicrumity4615]

I went through September 2021 , we did this but also the shark attack… I think it depends on the DS

[@johnnyerazo2360]

Great feeling of only remembering literally the first 3 hours of shark attack

[@juggernaut8456]

you get comfortable throwing up fast, thats why later you drink till formation the next morning and throw up on your run like its a walk in the park.... agree on all points

[@Borat_Kazakh]

I'm sure the Ukrainian army and territorial defense forces have a lot of shouting, running in place, being called names before they go in and incredibly blow hundreds of Russian tanks, APCs, kill thousands of Russian soldiers, etc. If you want to go down that road-- the Russian army conscripts have the worst hazing experience of all modern armies. And you've heard how motivated those Russian conscript prisoners sound, when being interviewed. Hazing has nothing to do with being a good soldier.

[@russellgalloway4348]

I was raised by a career military dad. When I went to boot camp in 1977, with all the yelling and screaming and insults, I thought I was back home🤣 Good times…good times.

[@grimgoreironhide9985]

🤣

[@nunyabidness2143]

Same here. I was 17 when I went to basic. I was laughing my ass off at the 21+ year old men that were crying because they were getting yelled at. Pops did 22 years, me getting yelled at like this was a norm. So yeah good times!! Lmao

[@ErikPT]

Ah, a military kid eh? Lol I take it you felt right home eh!

[@AbuHajarAlBugatti]

What a shitty dad

[@madfoxgaming2493]

Lmfao

[@douglassgrannis6591]

In the old Army, TRADOC gave these NCO's permission to let out all their PTSD on these recruits and it usually worked. Some had it all together, while others really did seem crazy. But we came out stronger and with a better understanding of earning it.

[@jdstocco84]

I remember the days of Marine Corps Bootcamp. All the screaming, quarter decking, sand pits in the first month leading up to the rifle range. By the third month there was a great pride, everything is running smoothly for the most part, drill is perfected, you see all the new recruits looking like garbage. Anyway, the initial breakdown is essential for military training, break the person of old habits, and ways of thinking, teamwork comes later, couple months later.

[@MichaelEhline]

Army was always inferior. That's why they have Rangers to separate the army boot camp morons from the ones who actually want to be more like Marines.

[@nexusdrop7863]

I think so. I feel lucky to have been before this crap. Was Army, so I would say easier than Marine but still.... It used to be everyone remembered their Basic Drill Sargent (Instructor) and now they might be forgotten like your AIT ones.

[@anthonymendez5768]

Rahh!

[@vagabondaloner5650]

@@nexusdrop7863 I was Army as well. I used to feel bad for the marines and whoever their future spouses would be. They were definitely putting in work, going through it, and looking totally defeated during training😢😳 Fort Sam Houston, we trained on the same base.

[@vagabondaloner5650]

I actually remember my recruiters and AIT DS (all tried for sexual encounters, or gave me a fake bonus/deal,) more than BCT drills. My main concern with Basic was not hitting the ground after the first push-up 🤣🤷🏾‍♀️

[@Raccoonactual]

The shark attack sets the tone in my opinion. It's the first real eye opener for recruits and lets them know that they aren't civilians anymore. Sure, some drills may have enjoyed smoking Pvt Snuffy on his first day and yelling to the point of getting frog voices, but most know it's a developmental tool to make them respect authority and help mold the new guys into what the Army needs. The first 100 isn't a terrible idea either, but it definitely should be a developmental tool used in conjunction with or after the shark attack.

[@desertrat7634]

Now the absence of shark attack sets the tone.

[@NicCageForPresident2024]

I forgot about Pvt Snuffy. They would use that term.

[@NicCageForPresident2024]

Good old Joe Snuffy

[@davidcraft4636]

100% agree.

[@zachgallegos6248]

When I did this the shark attack was after in the cta it was complete chaos with drill running around and screaming and spitting in your face lol, we didn’t hold our duffels over our heads but we would go touch the tank and pay taxes before coming back into the cta and ungodly amount of push-ups lol like non stop for the first 3 days…

[@alfredstimoli2590]

Get two platoon of recruits starting on the same day. One platoon trained the old fashion way, the other the new 'woke" way. Ensure platoons AND instructors do not communicate with their counterparts. Ensure the instructors get a reward if their platoon wins. Then towards the end of their course, put the platoons head to head to accomplish tasks and see which method of training is the best?

[@ArthurCallahan389]

I like that, but I agree with Kascio, the dress wearing idiots in charge would never allow their work ways to be humiliated!

[@imperfect-creations.]

@@ArthurCallahan389 of course . How else do you think they keep that pointed nose's shined up all the time .

[@mattm7798]

@@nahyeahwhatsahandle Exactly. I never served so I can't say from personal experience which is better but given the times of extreme stress they will experience in the field, getting them prepared for that and ensuring they can still function well seems to be rather important. Now, if new research has come out that has shown a more effective way of achieving that, then so be it but the woke ideology only goes so far if you start loosing battles because soldiers are not trained well enough.

[@woodywoodpecker9408]

Good thought!!!

[@TJ-ve8sv]

Nope. You're using logic. Stop it immediately!

[@sevenproxies4255]

I'd propose adding more simulated combat scenarios where different teams have to actually shoot at eachother. I don't care if you're using simfire, simunition, paintball or even airsoft. You learn a lot about tactics when you're trying to shoot at human targets who are trying to shoot you first. Mock patrols while firing at imaginary enemies don't teach you that much.

[@joshuaforbus5853]

You forgot to knock MILES gear or whatever the abbreviation was. 1997-2006 Marine infantryman Sgt. and School of Infantry instructor. I like your imagination. Become a officer and utilize it. Semper Fi

[@Aaron-rj7bv]

@@joshuaforbus5853 The problem with MILES gear is that it hasn't really been maintained very well, at least from my experience in the Army before I got out. Batteries were never charged or the sensors had gotten damaged and they rarely worked properly if at all. I've been out for several years now so I have no idea if it's improved or not. I did take part in pre-mob training years ago where we used the paintballs (actually filled with olive oil then) and remember catching one right in the neck that ricocheted off the neck guard of my IOTV.

[@sevenproxies4255]

@@belliduradespicio8009 Airsoft BB's will hurt too, depending on range and tuning. I've done both. Paintballs to me feel like someone knocking you on the head with one of their finger knuckles really hard. It hurts but it's sort of a blunt sensation. Airsoft BB's hitting skin or thin clothing feels like a whip crack if the gun is tuned correctly. Either way, I like the fact that both give you direct feedback of when you get hit and have done something wrong. You learn from it quite quickly and start adapting your tactical thinking. I also see a lot of people in the armed forces doing both hobbies in their spare time, and they all say that it's good training which is why they keep playing. In some cases they even say that it's better training than the exercises they are put through at work, because a lot of their exercises are like "shadow boxing" (you mostly just fire at imaginary targets)

[@PLONG12345]

I agree, this is actually the reason why competitive athletes are better than Military soldiers at specific and individual task. While an Airsofter dont fire actual guns they probably are more experienced tactically and with opponents actually fighting back than soldiers fresh out of bootcamps same with an MMA or Boxer who fights real people and sparring a lot than just showing restraining and striking techniques you see the Military way of training soldiers in Bootcamp is like the traditional martial arts training Demonstrating techniques but never actually sparred or compete which is the most important aspect and the reason why MMA fighters are more effective than traditionalist this is even true for Military battles. Military should use a competitive environment where they make soldiers go against someone who will try to win against them battling with witts and things you will never learn in a book or presentation.

[@TacShooter]

Seriously! I've had more fire and movement training in the civilian world playing military-grade laser tag and airsoft milsim than I had in 3 years in the Army. I did two rotations at JRTC and we spent most of our time within our perimeter doing support soldier tasks and guard duty.

[@Chris-fl1sz]

Jamesons travels as a soldier who is new to the army only 8 months in I wish things were harder during my basic I sure hell needed By the way great video

[@JamesonsTravels]

100% of the fine young men I have spoke with, like yourself, want it hard. they don't want it watered down. they want to test their metal. I do like the army increased boot camp/infantry 22 weeks. More training the better. Enjoy the ride and stay around positive people only.

[@ATippePodcast]

I almost wonder if the redesign was based on the rangers .... But army training used to be known as Basic Combat Training....with the shark attack designed (I thought) to prepare you for like a front line situation, with sargent's and such screaming for you to do the right thing the first time .... It's like they forgot the combat part of the training. But the rangers do a similar thing. As soon as you get their. It's nothing but team building exercises for the first three weeks or longer.

[@ATippePodcast]

But now. I want to figure out a way to do calvary in the army but go to marine boot camp instead.....

[@ATippePodcast]

@@sgtherk5432 I have thought about this. However I'm a local trucker and currently love the company i work for... So I want Army NG atm. So I've been thinking Calvary with Airborne. And I'm really wanting that. If I were to ever roll active duty. I may switch over.. not necessarily reluctantly either.

[@matthewartiles3179]

I went to boot in 2004 it ended up being my happy place hopefully your unit will turn up the tempo

[@zacmcdowell2909]

0311 USMC here, while I do for the most part agree with your stance on the heavy weight waivers not being a good thing, I do have to say and give testimony to a dude I went it P.I. Boot camp with, guy was short. Maybe 5’5-5’7, weighed close to 200 lbs if I had to guess looking back 12 years. Not a single one of us or the DI’s thought he’d last through first phase. Not only did he graduate and get the EGA, brother lost over 60lbs. He was so unrecognizable on graduation day that his family didn’t even recognize him. I don’t remember what his MOS was or where he went but I will never forget that as long as I live. Semper fuckin Fi.

[@gonzalourdampilleta4970]

just graduated infantry osut in december and i can tell you that yes it was hard , but when they extended the training there was no added training , they just had it more separated, which really was terrible for all of us because we had alot of free time and had nothing to do from thursday until the weekend , still couldnt see our families or get our phones so it didnt feel productive at all

[@JamesonsTravels]

congrats. i hate adding more training that is dead time. skip weekends off and just train for the same total number of days. no cell phones in training. What do i mean. if the training days are 120 jam that into 4 months instead of 6. No point in dead time for young men to miss Susie back home or get in trouble.

[@ipman4715]

@@JamesonsTravels i can't understand dead time.. When i went thru fort knox we were always on the move. They combined basic and AIT. Never a dull moment for us.

[@KM-ew5rl]

All of military is dead time. TRADOC is a joke, always has been.

[@17sapun]

" still couldnt see our families or get our phones so it didnt feel productive at all"

[@TexasSurplusPro]

I’ll be blunt my OSUT was mostly a waste of time. Besides the number of guys they’re tying to get primed to move onto a combat unit, there is no need for it to have been as long as it was previously. There were so many days we’d hear, “You’ll learn that when you get to your unit.” Then why are we there in the first place? Those were typically the critical skills that keep you from getting killed. It was such a basic primer, if you want quality training in most cases you’ll need to pay for it out of pocket.

[@retprob]

My nephew graduated 1 station infantry/AIT training in January. His father is a retired Msgt. His grandfather was a retired SFC. His brother and I are retired AF. My nephew knows his way around the military to say the least. He said the whole process was like summer camp for Boy Scouts and a joke. 'Nuff said...

[@brokenfuzzy4427]

Fort Sill in the winter was definitely anything but summer camp. It’s different, but it’s not a fun experience by any means.

[@norton2757]

The generation is soft so they have to soften the training for them….. I went through in 1984. We had one death during the training phase which occurred on the confidence course. It was tough but I’ll bet it was soft for us compared to the recruits that went through during the Viet Nam era.

[@Secretsquirrel27]

Thanks for sharing your family history.

[@bennettbrown5605]

@@norton2757 lol, Ft Sill just had a death like a month or so ago, one of the sister batteries to the one I graduated from not too long ago. Things have changed, some for the better, some for the worse, but the soldier's who come out of it are still Soldiers.

[@norton2757]

@@bennettbrown5605 LOL?….. is a soldiers death that funny to you?

[@James-s1f4e]

Most important: extreme obedience, sharp wits, high level endurance & killer instincts

[@elijahdowell7679]

The mentality behind the 1st 100 yards is that before we become soldiers we do the last 100 yards. It's going to be like herding cats but the last one shows us and the drills how far the platoon came

[@JamesonsTravels]

i like the idea may week 2. week one get them standing up straight, listening, moving with violence and intent. start working on military bearing. heck, get them to stop scratching bug at Benning.

[@TheLH86]

Everyone including you keeps explaining what the first 100 yards is supposed to do. Well, newsflash, everyone understands the words being used to justify its existence. What isn't so clear is whether it's actually a useful training tool. Lets be totally clear, not every military is structured like the US branches and how they break down their recruits with the traditional shouting and screaming, that comes down to the nation in question, it's culture and the culture of its military. However, even militaries that nowadays brand themselves with "quiet professionalism" still use methods time tested to break down their recruits *before* they begin to build them back up.

[@remowilliams8118]

I completed basic training at Fort Dix in 1983 when the two biggest differences between ARMY and USMC initial training was that the Marines had better marksmanship training, one shot one kill vs accuracy by volume of fire and the Marine Corp also had hand to hand which we did not probably because I was a howitzer mechanic. We did not say “one shot one kill” but we did say “as long as I have a thumb and a forefinger I can still shoot”. Combat should be as much about survival as it is killing the enemy, all basic combat skills are important to all military personnel.

[@JamesonsTravels]

The Marine Corps does a great job in a week at getting new guys to basic proficiency with the rifle. My 2 cents. Have every force do the same marksmenship training. Then add another 2 weeks of night, patroling and weapon system drills. (morters, saws etc). Considering even the most green supply clerk could be on a convey (Jessica Lynh) the more drills with weapons and of course live fire will never hurt.

[@jtoad99]

Hey, I was also at Dix in 1983. What month were you there? I was there from June to early Sept.

[@christopherwood2796]

Fort Dix 1988. Then again to process to go overseas in late 1990.

[@remowilliams8118]

My apologies for a typo, it was'84, July to September, after 11thgrade. Split training. Spent my summer at basic training C-5-5 under the expert tutelage of Drill Sergeant Smith, back for senior year and off to Fort Knox for AIT.

[@jgt5463]

In the Marine Corps, every Marine is first and foremost a rifleman.

[@1611KJV]

This describes why the Army is the way it is. Bring back the discipline.

[@DavidThomas-me6pi]

It's a joke.

[@ronaldgill7266]

I love the idea of more training time. You can tell the renew first day of basic was thought out about by some college graduate who wasn't hugged enough, yes our fine officer Corp. Do you really expect a bunch of kids straight out of high school be able to organize, plan and execute the first day? As well as pay attention to detail? This is the whole process of basic. They are definitely putting the cart before the horse on this one.

[@vagabondaloner5650]

I agree with you 💯 I joined the Army at like 28, with some education behind me. They had kids (even 17 y/o) coming straight outta high school, outranking me!! Like WTF😠

[@matthewquintana3943]

If I remember correctly this was the Sergeant Major of the Army's brainchild, not an Officer's...

[@Nethezbet]

I remember day 1 of basic, I was scared shitless. Looking back at those drill sergeants in their 20s it seems almost crazy, but at the time they had my attention. I knew who was in charge, I knew my place as a private. These days I'm a chaplain and I can say without doubt the level of professionalism is down, courtesies lack, respect is lower. The purpose of the military is to kill, and so many of these kids are simply not in the right headspace for that. It is all a game for many of these Soldiers.

[@3RD_eye-p6f]

Don't worry they'll get weeded out 😂 there's still some tough SOBs enlisting today

[@M5guy8191]

@@3RD_eye-p6fthank god

[@pepsi_man4962]

Jameson is just an amazing guy with an amazing channel. We gotta get him to 1 million subs!!! He’s slowly getting to KZbin legend status

[@oneeyeonmidgard6801]

I distinctly remember after graduation of Infantry training back in 09, at Fort Benning, how disappointed I was. I couldn’t stop thinking “Wow, this is it. This is what makes us the best in the world?” Now I’m no stud by any means and I most definitely wasn’t the top of my class. But I can only imagine the feeling these soldiers will have after completing their training. The future doesn’t look bright. But all empires have to fall sometime. Hopefully the next one will do better than we did.

[@kzgc8y3n]

Stolen valour I'm sensing here. Unless you had another specialty you would've gone on to phase 4 and 5 which are specific Infantry training. If that's not good enough for you, then you don't belong, as it's been good enough for the best fighting force since WW2. Always beware comments from people who openly claim they were low performing morons.

[@whatwhat98]

You give up to easy. A rebellion is needed to return America back to what it stood for. We need to purge our country of this crap

[@siegfriedarmory6271]

Honestly I think BCT has never been THAT much harder than it is today. Old veterans like to make it sound like "Back in my day we walked up hill 20 miles both ways in the snow" but I talked with my grandpa when he was still alive about the training he got during WWII, and my mom about the training she got in the 1980's. It all sounds like mostly the same things I did a few years ago. My Grandpa had more ruck marches, that's about the extent of the differences I heard about, he actually said our running today is way more intense than it was back then, apparently the only PT test they did for running in the 40's was a 300 yard shuttle run. BCT as far as I can tell has never been super intense, and honestly I think that's a good thing: not everybody is going to see combat, and I don't want a tech wizard computer nerd getting weeded out by BCT because he has noodle arms, when he's going to an IT/Intel/Signal/etc MOS that wouldn't go into the field even for WW3. BCT should be about learning the basics of being a soldier, not weeding out people who don't need to be weeded out. Leave the difficult stuff for AIT, and if someone fails there they can always be a cook or a computer jockey or whatever else fits the needs of the army.

[@johnbrewer1430]

@@siegfriedarmory6271 I did Basic in 1984, it wasn't that hard for me physically, but mentally it shocked me. I figured out the game pretty fast and I learned to tune out the yelling and noise and concentrate on the job at hand. I had the ability to literally sleep while the Paladins did a fire mission, waking up when they stopped for a break and going back to sleep when they started again. 2000 rounds down range in 48 hours.

[@chrisnamaste3572]

Amateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics.

[@bouzzard4871]

I went to a military high school from the air force in Argentina until I've graduated in 2016, now I'm 23. And although we were never treated like in a real army because we were underage kids from 13 to 17, but still had the basic hierarchy and discipline expected from any army (although we were never officially IN the military, unless you followed the military career after graduation). Watching how the Drill Sargent acts In this new video reminded me how our own treated us when we were 14. So looks like they're transforming the US Army into a kindergarten indeed.

[@JamesonsTravels]

my take. anyone who joins wants the military stuff the new training is going away from on the surface. I do find bright spots in longer infantry training. Best call would be to cut cell phones, libo and powerpoints out of the instruction and pack it into the same training days but less wasted time.

[@bouzzard4871]

@@JamesonsTravels Indeed, As long as that extra time remains productive, I see no issue at all. I just keep comparing it to my experience in High School in a military school (because I haven't followed the military career afterwards, but I've always been interested in such things). Back in my time, cell phones were strictly forbidden, and PowerPoints were only used in during class. Since it was a high school, the basic stuff (Math, Science, English, Spanish, Economy, etc) was given during morning schedule, while the military stuff (Running through the field, Shooting at the range, Military Theory & "performance", etc) was reserved for the afternoon & evening. And it was this way through all the year, not a single moment felt wasted and you can say it was a challenge for a teenager at that time.

[@batboy555]

Sounds like a good highschool

[@Pavewy]

Veteran here. It's not just about the capability to fight, it's about the inherent ability of violence of action. I would rather have a squad with minimal supplies, but the mindset of ruthless warriors than a squad of well stocked pushovers.

[@captaincool9636]

Ur not a veteran

[@johncox2912]

SHAZAM!!! Spot on.

[@andrewybanez200]

Would like to see more squad-based, small-team based activities (4-6 per team). Since you end up training like that later it would make it clock better and have people rotating in leadership roles more often.

[@FadeRift2001]

That guy being interviewed (SFC Summerlin) was my Drill Sergeant last year when I was in Basic, he was a crazy guy but he cared unlike so many others.

[@ellarother2963]

I believe I met him when I was there. He was in my brigade.

[@EricAustin-t5x]

I'm 50yoa now and went through boot camp in 92'. Shark attack weeded out the weak from the strong, showed drill instructors who needed attention, and those who were fit enough to advance. We had requirements you had to meet in order to even go forward from MEPS. You had to be able to complete a certain amount of push ups, and sit ups to go down range. If you didn't meet those requirements you were sent to a different training area to get in shape before you could start boot camp training. They are sending our new recruits into service without the proper training and setting them up for failure if this is how they are sending them to their active duty stations? Surely they are not sending them without being properly trained?

[@colbydixon5136]

I’m a firm believer (as an airman) that the Air Force needs more combat training. We should have at least the same amount of combat training (to include rucking, land navigation, etc.) as the Army has in basic training. Because when working as joint services in a deployed location, a solider or marine should be able to look at an airman or sailor and trust that we all have each other’s back should something go wrong.

[@garywilloughby6893]

1964-1968 I agree, those airman that was sent to Vietnam did not have any weapons training. I was lucky I was stationed at Kadena AFB for my last 2 years

[@zorav1448]

the only guys who have that type of training are security forces and all those special warfare guys. I do agree they should add it even IF you're working a desk job because at the end of the day you can be in a uniform where one person will look at you with murderous intent and you'll have to rely on some sort of training to get you back home,

[@strawdawgs78]

@@zorav1448 Air Force weather personnel doing Army support get some decent "combat" training as well.

[@strawdawgs78]

I just assumed all Airmen were badasses because of how they were portrayed in Battle: Los Angeles. Switched over to the Air Force from the Marine Corps and promptly found out that this was not the case.

[@IAMDPP]

I strongly agree

[@brianmurphy6760]

Hands down more time at the range, and studying various weapon systems, and maintenance.

[@JamesonsTravels]

i could see 3 weeks filled with weapons systems, range time and advanced patrolling. worth every penny.

[@Shadow-jm7ob]

Ya can imply both. Not only did the stress continue with smoke session and yellin and drillen, we hand to know different friendly, enemy takes, capabilities, different weapons we would be usin , which we did in basic in my day, know everything, from weight, range, point Target, area target, employ them in a timely manner, which was always a impossible time hack, take em apart and put em together. We had to disassemble and reassemble out M16 in a lotted mount of time, blindfolded. We did get range time with every weapon at the time the infantry was using. Mk19, m2, m60, m249, M16, m9, tow system, hand grandes, even the bayonet and hand to hand combat, not this man love they do now days.

[@olddog6658]

@@JamesonsTravels In 1961 after 14 weeks boot we got 2 hours base liberty, then boarded busses to camp Pendleton for 30 days infantry training. All hands, we lived as grunts. Day & nite op's Weapons training BAR, .30 cal 1917 & M-2 .50 cal MG, 3.5 rocket launcher, flame thrower, grenades you name it we shot it. When I graduated from ITR infantry training reg. I walked on water. Later I was on Okinawa and there went to NCO school, Jungle warfare, Escape & evasion, ABC (atomic, biological & chemical school. Next stop Chu Lai 1st MarDiv. 1965-66. Left RVN on july 27th was a civilian standing on street in Anaheim CA. on aug 3....Semper fi pogues.

[@evinchester7820]

I went through Basic in 1985. I was older then most of the people with me but there were a few who were older. Oddly enough, they spent most of their time working with the younger guys. When I see videos of the people in Basic, I just smile. The instructors are there pumping it up for the cameras. Saw that when we have "visitors" come through. When I realized what it was I just played along.

[@jitgreen8366]

Had a friend who went 11b after leaving the navy (blue to green) . Anyways he said that one of the first weeks at benning his drill sergeant told him “ Pri you got 5 seconds to un **** yourself “ and he carried on. My friend sounded off “ Aye Aye Drill sergeant ! “ I’m sure it was just a force of habit but I’ll let you imagine what followed.

[@selftrue670]

The Shark Attack is essential. Essential. And it should be applied early and often. It, perhaps more than any other component of Boot Camp, transforms a recruit from a sniveling, wilting flower into a soldier who is beginning to be able to handle the hell of combat. The Shark Attack and a general uncompromising demand for attention to detail are cornerstones to building a soldier.

[@JR-ez3zd]

A WILTING FLOWER 🥀 INTO A VENUS FLY TRAP!

[@johnedwards2759]

Yeah. One size fits all. Everyone is the same. spoken like an uneducated person.

[@atlhoe564]

Seems like a very abusive practice. Glad it got banned.

[@selftrue670]

@@atlhoe564 Not banned, but certainly toned down.

[@DPSS808]

@@atlhoe564 I'd be willing to bet war is a very abusive practice. Probably should ban war.

[@shawntailor5485]

I dont know what recruiters were thinking other than some are just destined for cannon fodder .we had guys that couldn't pour piss out their boots . One dude wanted to kick my ass for telling him milk came from cows .

[@26thIronLegion]

I just finished BCT at Fort Jackson 2 weeks ago. From what I have seen is that the first 100 yards does NOT established fear and discipline into people. So many guys in my platoon treated it like summer camp. And they stayed like that all the way to graduation. Still having no discipline because the Army has to be more gentle with people. Yes, Fort Jackson is one of the easier basics but it honestly wasn't enough as I and others had hoped for, it should have been way more difficult physically and mentally.

[@danbrown3325]

That's the biggest issue. I saw the chain reaction of one or two bad trainees, being allowed by policy to be miscreants, turning into demotivation and misbehavior amongst the platoon Once one trainee got to weasel their way out of something difficult, too many questioned why they didn't as well. And, despite the Drills efforts at group punishment, the excessive fear of bullying and suicide meant the Drills or us trainees could never say a damn thing to that delinquent soldier whatsoever

[@JamesonsTravels]

Know any buddies from the military like this - kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4O5dJZoq9J4qsU We all know that type of guy.

[@J0K3RsGAM1NG]

Day Zero is the first 72 hours in basic training that's when they'll do the shark attack relentlessly towards those that precieve as weak to break them down and build them as soldiers or figure out the weak links. That's a must have its necessary and your enemies would only love for us to be weak. That's a can't have. They need to bring back shark attacks.

[@asgerhyer5325]

I think team building exercises are the greatest way to improve and prepare soldiers for battle. Once they all feel that "we're all part of something greater than ourselves" you can begin to have a lot more psysical training as well as weapon training.

[@JamesonsTravels]

oh, yes i love the concept but not day 1 of boot camp. baby steps and team building is after they learn to crawl. most of these men are barely 18. selflessness is important in training. big fan of team building done right. i could think of worse new directions the Army went.

[@oxh4rb1ng3rxo5]

Sadly I had a medic serving with me fresh out of AIT who told me they learned very little from Basic. We trained him up well though once he got to us.

[@eman6940]

Thank you for your honorable service! May God bless you and your beautiful family🙏

[@chrissheppard8943]

I did this in early 2021 and trust me we still got all the drills in our faces like the shark attack but it was all throughout the first 2 weeks. They still put that fear in us they just ain’t doing it on camera😂

[@JamesonsTravels]

ah, great. as i suspect since the old DS are still there and want to train young men to be prepared.

[@samkesler218]

@@JamesonsTravels i agree this video doesn’t do it justice, for us day 1-3 we got smoked in the bay because they had more control, also it rained all day one so we were soaked the entire day

[@napalmstickylikeglue]

For some reason, I suspect what you consider to be a shark attack wasn't an actual shark attack. 😏

[@jasoncole8767]

Your new generation of “smoked” is nothing compared to what the better generation went through 🤣 you guys are handed stress cards and have the mothers of America protecting you

[@samkesler218]

@@jasoncole8767 no stress cards man, the only thing they gone soft on is the drills can only smoked u for a certain amount of time at once, that being said they can rotate through the entire cadre and smoke you

[@jerrythomas463]

I remember questioning every single decision I’d made in my short 17 years of life during the shark attack.

[@joyriley5303]

❤️

[@mattm7798]

I'll bet. It seems the effort is to lesson the psycological scars military service has on people...I always though the act of being in the military meant to accepted that risk. I'm not saying we should go back to DIs punching people or slamming their head into a chalkboard, but come one, they are being prepared for war, not a casual discussion with the enemy.

[@BattleGn0me]

As a Marine, I remember boot camp was a continuous shark attack all the upthough most of second phase. I was heartened and posotively to witness the Army had similar enculturation when I attended my son graduate OSUT as Armorcrewman about a decade ago. I hop the Drills find a workaround and keep up the cultural enrichment activity.

[@cyclone4-225]

Army can't fill its ranks so they lower standards for entry on hight weight and sometimes asvab. They get waivers, hence the term "GT waiver".

[@jamesdouglas6977]

About the only good thing you get out of this being done on day 1 after receiving (BTW how long is receiving for the US Army these days?) is that the Drill Sergeants can identify potential leaders within the platoon who can/will take charge during stressful situations.

[@JamesonsTravels]

i can see that. pick the guide and squad leaders. i dont think its a day 1 event. shark attack for a few weeks to get them listening and starting a bit of military bearing then push for group events.

[@trebochet]

You either , lead foliow or get out of the way . “Idiocrazy 101”

[@samkesler218]

reception at ft benning for me was about 8 days, but at the other bct locations they are three to four days

[@jamesdouglas6977]

@@samkesler218 it was 4 days for me at MCRD San Diego back in 1997.

[@seattlesix]

Tend to concur as the DS can get eyes on the rocks as well as the potentials. Keep the event short and emphasize PT since TRADOC has already declared this shortfall to Recruiting Command.

[@mexicola10]

I've never heard any one in the army brag about how easy their training was. people want a challenge. by looking at this i'm glad i went through when i did.

[@macalpha4099]

this looks easier than freshman football practice

[@JIMMYJAMES156821]

Instead of calling at the 1st hundred yards, it should be called the “SOUP SANDWICH”…!

[@Craeshen]

With the extension of training more time should be spent on basic marksmanship and maybe familiarization with soviet bloc weapons so they have more idea of the limitations of their opponents weapons

[@JamesonsTravels]

my 2 cents. more range time, live fire drills, advanced patroling, more night range time and weapon system drills.

[@Justin-yt7pi]

I actually scared of that option

[@17sapun]

"maybe familiarization with soviet bloc weapons so they have more idea of the limitations of their opponents weapons" maybe more importantly their capabilities

[@Brecconable]

@@17sapun Beat me to it. Like comparing an M-40 to an SVD. I'd go further, I'd start having more exchange programs and cross-training with foreign units. But also open the door for junior enlisted ranks to be part of the personnel exchange and not just officers and SNCOs, for example posting recon troops from 10th Mountain Division to the Canadian Rangers or the Royal Marines Mountain and Arctic Warfare Cadre or pilots from 160th Spec Ops Aviation Regiment cross-training with 7 Squadron RAF.

[@eskercurve]

I remember in the 90s the term "helicopter parents" to describe overprotective parents get in the face of coaches and teachers because poor little Johnny couldn't possibly be third string or get a D. Nowadays I worry about the whole government being helicopter nannies. By the way I admire and appreciate the service and sacrifice everyone goes through. Thank you!

[@alexmoonstar7974]

When the parenting in this country goes down, the helicopter duties has to go to the government.

[@mattp2596]

I think the team building was in mind while setting this type of event up, but I also think that because we did this later on in marine bootcamp, we learned valuable lesson that just because someone is your "friend" you cant always depend on them to be on your level. Great way to boost moral in the winning platoon but we shouldn't be boosting platoon moral instead of individual confidence for the first few weeks. the first 3-5 weeks should be conditioning, then basic training of necessary skills, then team building. it forces the single marine or soldier to know their worth, prove it, then preform for their fellow devil dogs or soldiers.

[@whoathatsanicememe3093]

At 5:24 my husband didn't believe I could take swats (yes even females) instead of suspension. Of course I grew up in Texas where we take corporal punishment a little more seriously than his growing up in Maryland. I'm showing him this. If I had the option of taking a few paddles at school and not having to tell my parents I got suspended, I definitely took it. My daddy didn't play games.

[@kimberlainodriscoll4781]

I'm a veteran. I remember the intense yelling and mind games inflicted on me. It wasn't pleasant, but I endured. It is a great tool to weed out the ones not suitable and hoan the ones who are. If you can't handle someone yelling at you, how are you going to be effective in combat or when your ship at sea is hit and you have to risk all to save it and keep fighting on. If you told a bunch of marines or soldiers in the 40's through the 80's that those who won an endurance test got to do 100 four count push ups (200 real push ups), while the losers were forced to watch in humiliation, the marines or soldiers would fight with all they had in their souls to win. I know because I was there. There was a pride I remember from times past. These kids today need to be instilled with that same form of fierce competitive mentality. Participation trophies fail to do this. I served with a navy Fleet Marine Corpsman who did 20 one armed pull ups just to earn a pack of dehydrated MRE strawberries. These days, new recruits seem to be readied to join the woke Cupcake Brigade. Whoever came up with this idiotic change away from the ol' esprit de corps needs to be retired to a nursing home.

[@4catsnow]

67 to 70 . Army. Government subsidized lunacy, on an industrial level...Keystroke of a typewriter or some lifer's signature on a piece of paper, you were dead...

[@JackIronwood]

The world we attended Basic Combat Training no longer exists...Now there is only woke power-point presentations, and worship of the almighty State.

[@kimberlainodriscoll4781]

@@JackIronwood I hope we can do better, because if not stopped, there may come a day when bullets are not needed anymore. The enemy will call our muffin cake warriors hurtful names to bruise their overly sensitive feelings so they run to their safe spaces and cry.

[@JackIronwood]

@@kimberlainodriscoll4781 I was already seeing troops coming in softer than 10-ply toilet paper before I recieved my honorable discharge in 2015...They weren't going to pick up my option for another 10 years of service, because I openly spoke out against the bullshit TRADOC was pushing. I'm glad I wasn't going to stick around to see the embarrassment the Army has become.

[@oldnatty61]

Preach it girl! What branch? MOS? OFFICER or Legit:)?

[@bigmike3487]

Mr. Jamison,.. your insight is spot on. My Dad is a 1944 graduate of paris Island and when he watches this is just laughs. I'm sure you can relate sir. Best Regards,...

[@sandyvalentin3072]

I remember leaving Fort Benning in 1982 after going through advance infantry training and it was complete hell no BS . Also I remember sitting at the airport waiting to go home on leave before I got shipped off to Germany , and I started talking to 2 Marines who just got out of basic training from Parris island and I remember them telling me like it was yesterday, that it was the worst thing that they ever experienced, but I’ll tell you one thing it made me a better man and person today also them . The young men now have no idea what it was really like back then things have changed a lot in the military .

[@johnhumphrey9953]

Harmony Church 1987-1988, the good old days. RIP Harmony Church.

[@sgtdedhed]

@@johnhumphrey9953 graduated from sand hill in 88. One shot, one kill. Not sure what they train now...

[@Sandhill1988]

Sand hill Bravo 2nd of the 54th 88-89 warlords.

[@marcuspayne9744]

Graduated OSUT Sand Hill in 84 then off to Airborne School then to Bragg, and later back to Benning for Pathfinder School. Back then Benning was a Top notch hell hole. Till this day cherished my time there.

[@rileyschulz2565]

I was in one of the last cycles to go through a shark attack at Jackson about two years ago and it still felt pretty soft because covid had everyone so nervous and wearing masks so you couldn't even read a Drill Sergeants face. Took a lot of the intimidation that's meant to be there out.

[@3Stripes_1775]

8 years in the Corps, here. Semper Fi. Seeing the whole mask thing in bootcamp videos..lol. blows my mind.

[@marytimmons320]

I’m a retired PE teacher, I used to do these types of activities to build teamwork, direction following, problem solving and a sense of being stronger when we all work together. The kids loved it. Some emerge as natural leaders, while tend to take unnecessary risks that slow the team down. It was extremely useful in team building.

[@heathbarker9813]

PE ? Big difference from US Military. 🤔

[@lazerbeamspewpew4728]

Buuuhahahahahaa… hahahaahaa

[@tonyb1450]

When I was a squad leader and platoon Sargeant I used to tell my privates to forget what they were taught at Fort Benning. My job was to teach them how to survive and protect the man beside them. Rangers lead the way

[@BackFromTheRoad]

And this is the reality. You’ll learn how to stand in formation and have some military bearing at Fort Benning. It’s your unit that turns you into a useful soldier. I was a medic so I went through regular basic at Benning and then AIT at Fort Sam. I could confidently do my job at the end of training but I learned 90% of my skill set in unit.

[@navyphil6105]

Concerning what the DS stated for the camera, as a retired Navy Chief, what the military puts out is still put out to the Sailors and the public are different from what is said in the Goatlocker. What's said in the mess stays in the mess.

[@nick-mf9cl]

When I got new guys in my unit, they lacked heavily on discipline. They would be sitting down talking to NCOs, not addressing them by their rank, not going to parade rest, ext. Clearly this new basic training is failing.

[@21COKEISIT]

Nick256 the first and last words out of your filfy sewers of a mouth was ALWAYS "sir"

[@johnwig285]

For the rank part, i fail to see how that's a discipline issue or do you have a certain kind of complex for ur rank to be acknowledged? I mean back in Fallujah, did I see my brothers as their rank or as comrades?

[@BloodEagle1583]

In June and July of '66, we were run through PI in 8 weeks while the following series had to do 12. They thought all those dead Marines coming back from VN was due to a lack of training. Maybe that was the case, or perhaps the VC were just getting better at killing.

[@reb1050]

In 70, at San Diego, we had 8 weeks of Boot Camp, followed by 4 weeks of ITR (Infantry Training Regiment) before going on to our specified M.O.S. training. Boot Camp was basically at a platoon level, while ITR was company strength.

[@nilocdg9752]

An excellency evaluation with a bonus reward would go miles. 20k a year is trash. Money speaks louder than yells. Work hard and get a 5k bonus. I’m just spit balling here. Incentivize leadership

[@richardslaughter6652]

We don't need a soft military, we need well trained warfighters. Bring back the Old Army!

[@doingsomestuff187]

Which old army? The one that was okay with smoking pot and using drugs in viet nam? The one with gang hazing rituals and gang ties during the GWOT? The one that it was legally mandated that you could not be openly gay? I don’t mean to say the military isn’t great, but it sure has hell never been perfect. Our soldiers have always been well trained. There’s just a lot of tik tok and Instagram to make the worst elements look worse.

[@richardslaughter6652]

@@doingsomestuff187 which ever you want guy

[@johnwig285]

The old army lost in Nam, lost in Iraq. Seems to me we have a much larger problem STRATEGICALLY than some debate over boot camp

[@MichaelEhline]

We have Marine cooks for that

[@brokenfuzzy4427]

Even the Drill Sergeants in my BCT laughed at people saying we’ve gone soft. It’s different now, but definitely not soft. We actually learn and retain useful skills now. Anyone who thinks it’s a cakewalk should give it a shot.

[@ricardoquinones1361]

I served 24 years and retired in 2000 from the 82nd Airborne Division. To this day I remember SFC Wallace; my drill sergeant who got on my face and turned me from a street punk into an American warrior. This new nonsense will never work at producing the kind of soldiers and marines our country needs to fight and win wars. The sad thing is that we will only learn how ineffective this new training is when we start getting our asses kicked in the battle field. “Bring back the shark attack” and the awesome training that produced the best we ever had and stop listening to stupid politicians talk about stuff they know nothing about.

[@rappingforjesus9630]

Wow

[@rappingforjesus9630]

We need to get more people like sgt Hartman

[@timrobertson4899]

Yet you continue to start wars for reasons you know nothing about. Which is for profitable gain.

[@maddmoxx6414]

I as well remember the names of all my Drill Sergeants, Taylor, Robbins, Knapp, and 1SG Sharch... Sharch was the antichrist, that sob was possessed his eyes used to roll into the back of his head when yelling at you. Scared my ass into submission.... Funny thing is I only served with them for a small fraction of the all the years served, can remember their names but barely anyone else's I served with.

[@johnedwards2759]

The problem is not EVERYONE who goes into the military is a STREET PUNK who needs to be broken. I was a straight A student who took calculus and physics in high school. All the yelling did was made me HATE the Army.

[@cliftonwhittaker260]

I went through basic at Ft Knox in Jan/Feb 1961. I never had so much fun plus I got three good meals a day. We marched to the rifle range every day with our M1 Garands. It was so cold we wore pile caps with the ear flaps tied down; galoshes with the buckles; long johns and wool scarves. We were told to only fill our canteens 1/2 way so they wouldn't freeze and burst. I must have gained at least 20 pounds in basic. I went to AIT and volunteered for airborne from there. Spent most of the next nine years in the 101st and the 173rd.

[@vagabondaloner5650]

When I joined the Army, I was already about 28 years old, married (single)mother of 2 sons. Of course, I was thinking, 'these mofos must be crazy,' as I was even older than the drills who were over me. I remember overweight trainees being recycled until being sent home. I remember also, not having these gender/pronouns issues. I am now 43. From what I have learned, the military has changed the physical fitness standards as well, to have the sexes tested by the same physical standards😢 WTF is this country coming to😭

[@ThomasBoyce5000]

I don't know.......I really don't.

[@Stoopkidaustin]

Hey I'm 28 , and was thinking about joining, glad to hear you joined when you was older . Gives me strength

[@dillfunk9479]

@@Stoopkidaustin not uncommon at all

[@johnhildenbrand2642]

I see no issue at all with both sex's being held to the same standard. That standard should be set to optimize successes and minimize failures on the battlefield, and when the two way rifle range opens, your genitalia aren't going to matter at all

[@dillfunk9479]

@@johnhildenbrand2642 I think women should be held to higher cardio standards, being that they must work hard after hours to keep the platoon of real war fighters entertained. This is the best thing females can do to keep infantry platoons moral high and Yelp the fight.

[@TheRedstoneScout]

I went through BCT during the summer of 2020 @ Ft. Jackson. It definitely seems the army is transitioning to training that is more mentally challenging as opposed to physically challenging. I had to deal with mentally challenging situations nearly everyday. I do wish that my basic training was more difficult physically. BCT was only physically challenging during a smoke session when the point was to make it impossible.

[@sithninjacowboyranger9803]

It probably sucked having to train with a mask. How was it decided who got quarantined when they got to 120th?

[@TheRedstoneScout]

@@sithninjacowboyranger9803 On the 2nd or 3rd day of reception they tested all of us for covid. They would remove people who tested positive.

[@Diemerstein]

What could they do to make these Army guys better? Replace the Drill Sargent with Marine Drill Instructors for starters!!!

[@elevenb6967]

Maybe you should learn how to spell correctly BEFORE you post. That way, you won't look like a complete idiot.

[@WizardOfCheese]

5:50 maybe BECAUSE we have kids brought up the way they are, soft, they might have a tendency to snap (later on) or hold a grudges, etc? the shark attack worked back then because that's what people were used to in sports. now its a bit more methodical (my assumption) perhaps todays gen need to be built up differently. or maybe its a carrot vs stick thing they're testing out, which we wont find out if that works for 30+ years id imagine.

[@JamesonsTravels]

since the usa is such a diverse country getting recruits on the same page fast is paramount. the shark attack is a great way to get people to listen and know when to shut up.

[@louisavondart9178]

When I did my basic in the Late 80's, there was one L/Cpl that was known to all the recruits. He was a total prick and milked his power for all that it was worth. We all felt sorry for the guys in his platoon. It didn't make them the best platoon. It didn't make them better soldiers. But he did make them hate him, deeply. Guys like that get fragged on the first day of real combat.

[@3RD_eye-p6f]

Nobody's gonna go in harms way to pull him to safety

[@charliewood8964]

Bring back the old iorn sights for qualifying

[@vernclark6104]

In all honesty I barely remember the drill Sergeants yelling at us. I remember the mistakes I made and most of them I didn't get yelled at for. Got in trouble for others though. Also, when I went through basic back in spring of 2013, the first two weeks was team building stuff with getting up at 5 am doing pt and then having some activity throughout the day. Shouldn't have removed shark attack. You will get yelled during your service. Better to get used to it earlier than later.

[@johnedwards2759]

The problem is not EVERYONE who goes into the military is a STREET PUNK who needs to be broken. I was a straight A student who took calculus and physics in high school. All the yelling did was made me HATE the Army.

[@redline1916]

@@johnedwards2759 Bro come on

[@johnedwards2759]

@@redline1916 I am not your brother. And here's a thing that will cause your head to explode: There are 7.5 Billion people on Planet Earth, and not all of them think exactly the same way you, and your Mommy, and your Daddy think in Bugtussle, Alabama, in the trailer park next to the City Dump. And I don't chew tabaccky and I don't have a Bluetick Possumhound, and I don't watch my heroes on Duck Dynasty or reruns of the Dukes of Hazzard, or go to Trump rallies, or have a rusted pick up truck, Cletus.

[@MrProfchaos71]

@@johnedwards2759 why did you sign up to ruin the military then ? We don’t need leftists in the military or pussies for that matter.

[@pocketsdoesstuff3880]

I went to Marine bootcamp in 1993 and served for 10 years active duty. I got to see the crucible Marines come in and what I learned from them was, the crucible was kind of stupid. Everything they did in the crucible was something we did in '93, between bootcamp and MCT, but they spent less time doing drill. So crucible Marines had two deficiencies that I could see. They were told that they were the baddest Marines the Corps ever produced and they believed it, which I think may have played a part in them being less respectful towards their seniors. And the other thing being , less time in drill where drill was the number one discipline builder. Suddenly I am dealing with Marines that, when I give them an order to do something they are trying to ask me why, and I was a POG so it wasn't like I was ever asking anyone to do anything dangerous or difficult or anything I hadn't already done myself. So, the two most important things are, don't tell recruits they are anything special and they should get in as much drill time as they can.

[@imperfect-creations.]

Well said sir .

[@bruhholmes]

- Bring back shark week - & having 72-hour capture the flag style games, either hand to hand or airsoft/paintball I think would be a big help. (I'm kinda iffy on the idea of "simunition" the difference in the speed of projectiles - learning to lead shots or react/dodge shot in unnatural ways) Doing extended training events that are team based, in harsh conditions, against people who have seen combat experience; preferably before recruits start learning tactics so they can understand the difference between a trained & untrained soldier, as well as get a tactile sense of how to behave in that kind of environment. As somebody who's looking to join I'm pretty upset about the changes in training & how well equipped certain unstable regions overseas are now. Terrorists with nightvison Vs COD junkies & McCasualties. _____ I'm hoping if I aim for the Ranger battalion I won't be stuck with a bunch of randoms that might get me killed, know if there's any validity to this idea? My grandfather & father served, now looking at the state of things I'm a little pissed

[@noneya9784]

I can tell you 3rd battalion definitely does that.

[@michaelkneringer3194]

Your full of it. And didn't 'learn' anything.

[@mr.sophistication3232]

You are 100% right on all of your points. Thank you sir.

[@williamwaters6803]

Compared to when I went thru at the start of the OIF/OEF war.. this is still way too easy. Hard living creates hard soldiers. It's supposed to be as hard and painful as possible to help them survive. We always were told the more you swear here, the less you bleed in a fight. It was definitely true. And we didn't get to use fancy optics until way later. We were trained to accurately engage a man size target at 300m with iron sights. Your suppose to be hard, hungry, angry. not this soyboy bullshit you see here. This is a giant game of grabass

[@brokenfuzzy4427]

CCO still comes way after iron sights. Only irons count towards graduation. I don’t know about other forts, but Sill in winter was a horror show. They did not go easy on us unless fingers were falling off. It’s not nearly as soft as they portray it. Nobody in their right mind would enlist if they showed the full BCT experience.

[@richreaychowderclapback4866]

Facts qual, 1st time go ironsights 300m Ol L wood in the snow ENGR's Lead the way hooah

[@danbrown3325]

@@brokenfuzzy4427 Yes, sir. Trained in iron sights from week 1 until qualification, and the record on my ERB is my iron sights score. This was 2021 It's not that BCT has become easy: it that if you don't apply yourself, the Drills are almost beholden to let you be piss poor and still graduate you. I saw the majority of trainees work hard, take things seriously and rush to complete the task with just the threat of yelling and corrective training -- but the shitbags could run their mouth or half ass, and the Drills (and us fellow trainees) had to play nice. That's the real problem

[@bradchoi662]

Back in my day, I had to put my head on the floor for over 1 minute and was kicked by my corporal. Bootcamp doesn't need to be yelled hard, hungry, and that's not what makes a soldier strong. disciplined, organised and teamwork missions etc. these are the core value that we should prioritise in the BootCamp,

[@williamwaters6803]

@@brokenfuzzy4427 still a joke compared to the good days. Stress cards are for failures

[@terryd2188]

I went in 93 and I had the Shark Attack. It broke us down to build us up and to this day I look back and laugh at how scared a lot of the guys were. As I would get Soldiers they would tell me how easy basic was for them I couldn't believe it. I think you have to shock the system then go into the team building.

[@freddypatterson8653]

An old football coach in my Hi School on the first day of spring training, held up a football, asking us all to take a good look and remember what it looked like. He told us the reason that this was the last time we could see a football until the last week of spring training. Next we ran and did the most outrageous PT on this earth. (Half the team quite on the first day!) So I'm saying get the troops in shape, learn to follow commands, lean to march, the basic, the rest will fall into place.

[@jedisdad2265]

Absolutely the kids today have ZERO respect. And they need to learn there are consequences for failure. They also need to learn who is in charge and respect for authority

[@edgar9739]

No

[@JamesonsTravels]

Interesting i find a bunch of young men who want hard training. they know they have been raised soft in some cases and want to test their metal. the military is missing that in recruiting. yes, SF tries but most people just want the basic military shit and pocket change.

[@EmperorSenate]

The same was said about your generation and the kids of today will say the same about the future generations.

[@aesirgaming1014]

God this is sad. Shark attacks set the tone for training. It made it clear where you stood (as a know-nothing maggot) and made you open to learning a lot of information very quickly. When you think about the amount of information Basic Training imparts in such a short period of time, it's very impressive (and I say this as someone who went on to instruct in both the military and civilian world). The shark attack is the start of breaking down and destroying the weak, civilian you and building you back up as a steely-eyed killer, ready to go to war.

[@johnedwards2759]

The problem is not EVERYONE who goes into the military is a STREET PUNK who needs to be broken. I was a straight A student who took calculus and physics in high school. All the yelling did was made me HATE the Army.

[@MAsSiVeB0NG05]

Don't worry, they still happen

[@Sarzuen]

It's meant to also brake down the EGO of pompous self important people, so you can learn DISCIPLINE to be better at taking orders from higher ups and function as team unit who see each other as brothers, not as rivals. Talking about street punks and disdaining loud yelling that everyone receives equally shows an ego there. Your placing yourself above others simply by stating that you completed high school and have a degree, that you should be treated better than those simple street punks you label others you believe lower than you. These shark attacks and yelling was definitely my rant for you. You are equal, no better than any other until you prove it by action. You are trained to be a warrior, one who acts. All this high school and degree nonsense is meant for civilian environment, or for higher positions in the military. But you won't go to far if you can't respect authority, or handle highly stressful situations like simple yelling. On that battlefield will be nothing but chaos, destruction and mayhem, and you will need to not only handle it, but go above it and persevere, still taking orders and to act despite all the hell breaking loose.

[@rodread1531]

1969 basic training,trained to survive and kill the enemy. When you finished you thought you could walk thru walls.

[@AbuHajarAlBugatti]

Stuff is stupid and hilarious. They cant touch you anyway. So the yelling goes in one ear and out the other

[@SoldierDrew]

Our drill sgts physically beat us, nut slapped us, shark attacked, rabbit chopped us, punched our solar plexus, kicked us and we had wall to wall counseling, hazing, g.i. showers, blanket parties, koalafying, got smoked nude covered in soapy water at the foot of our bunks , got sprayed with a fireman hose after bayonet assault course and we didn't cry about any of it. We didn't have DEI to lower standards. Recruits died in Infantry school. We lost three to death. We were training to be professional warriors. Not to be boy scouts.

[@jefferydraper4019]

Maybe I had it easy. Did basic in 1983 at 17. My drills were mostly Vietnam vets. I had a great time. The "shark attack" was a breeze. If you did exactly as they said as quickly as possible they never bothered with you. I was 6'4" then and about 190. Its funny how drills never seemed to notice one of the biggest guys in a training platoon. Why? Because if you go in expecting it to be a hell and determined to bust your ass, somehow its actually easy. I came out in great shape for my senior year of high school, and two-a-days for football in the 90+ degree Texas sun were a breeze.

[@tiptonbrett]

I would think adding 3-4 weeks would really help Basic Training. I went through in 89, so I know things have changed and the younger generations are in worse shape. So, maybe taking an hour of classroom time each day away and spending more time of PT each day. Add in maybe an extra week or two of rifle training would help. When I went through, we had the basic 20 soldier's task. I'm sure that has been updated and modernized. Some extra time in Basic could also help to introduce soldiers to some of the newer advanced weapons system. It would also be helpful to include some training on what a soldier's options would be for training and advancement during their military career.

[@neft5449]

Wasn't basic training in 1989 only 8 weeks vs the 10 weeks that trainees go through now?

[@howardrichburg2398]

in 1981 USMC we did not do very much small teams work which is what I had to learn later after bootcamp and infantry school. Working as a fireteam is critical to success.

[@noahtortilla1231]

I went through in 2021 and personally it just showed how dogshit we were at doing simple tasks. It wasn't hard, it wasn't stressful, just annoying with how much effort it took to get everyone to agree on a method of execution. For me it showed that if we actually payed attention in training, that clusterfuck won't happen again

[@forestchicken3302]

I broke my foot and marched before the sun was up until the sun was down on final March in Benning 04. I guess they aren't like that anymore. Had one guy break his hip and they said he was soft when he started lagging behind. B 2-19

[@Wegese2215]

@@forestchicken3302 I didn't break my foot, but I had the heels of my feet, fall off. I walked on bloody goo until they finally crusted over. On another occasion, I had my nose severely broken during hand to hand combat training. My nose was leaning on the side of my cheek. I was sent to a military hospital, where they proceeded to do absolutely nothing for me. They took an X-ray, and told me to leave. I never got to see a doctor, or even a nurse. Nobody even reviewed the X-ray. They just told me the hospital was shutting down for Thanksgiving, and I was fine. I didn't get my nose fixed until a few years after my ETS date, and that was by a civilian doctor. I had a piece of a finger cut off, while out in the field, due to someone slamming the door of a 113, on it. The Army did nothing for that, except to give me some gauze and antibiotics. I look back at all the neglect and serious disregard for my well being, as good infantry training. I'm glad I didn't go in, with all the pussified rules they have now.

[@forestchicken3302]

@@Wegese2215 what unit were u in?

[@Wegese2215]

@@forestchicken3302 1/61st Ft Polk

[@stephenegbert7822]

In 1980 I went to basic training at Fort Benning and then came back seven years later as a company XO (yes, I became an officer). The training had changed somewhat but the overall level of discipline had not changed. Drill sergeants still screamed at privates, you had to move quickly everywhere you went (most veterans of this era will remember, "too slow, get back"!), but it was essential that soft, lazy, disrespectful civilians be transformed into tough, resourceful, and disciplined Infantrymen. We had 12 weeks to effect this transition. I can not speak to the effectiveness of this kindler, gentler training, because I have not observed the end product. If these soldiers can fight and win on the battlefield, then it is good training. if not, and men die and they don't accomplish the mission because they lack discipline, resourcefulness, and tenacity, then it is not just bad training, it is negligence on the part of our leaders. I can say that the "old" way worked extremely well for a very long time and changing the protocol because we don't want junior to have his feelings hurt is just idiotic.

[@keithrowell8895]

I was there in June 76 for AIT as a 11C. It was hard but I injoyed it.

[@johnedwards2759]

The problem is not EVERYONE who goes into the military is a STREET PUNK who needs to be broken. I was a straight A student who took calculus and physics in high school. All the yelling did was made me HATE the Army.

[@redline1916]

@@johnedwards2759 You're only reinforcing his point my man

[@chasehildebrand6945]

that out of ammo clip in the beginning will always be my favorite military snippet. the way sergeant told him he shot it all will always kill me lmao

[@emperorhaen9003]

I learned more from physical pain then anything else at recruit training, more IT is what they need

[@martyc1533]

I sure as hell hope the ARMY does a better job in Infantry School than it does in Basic Training! Their version of a "tough training day" in Basic Training is a far cry from what it used to be. While NEVER close to the demands of USMC BOOT CAMP, the ARMY was a bit harder on the recruits than they are now. Hugs and Kind Words are the order of the day!! As far as "additions" to Military Boot Camp goes, keep it simple. 1st Phase: Break them down as individuals, Tough PT and Learn Military Bearing. 2nd Phase: Tough PT, Team Unity, Weapons Training and Tactics. 3rd Phase: More PT, Advanced Skills, Leadership!

[@M60gunner1971]

In 1990 it was shitload harder.

[@lonestarpatriot876]

The scary thing is that our enemies are watching this same video.

[@alexandernewman9735]

NCOs are leaving the Army because it's impossible to instill good order and discipline into a formation when leadership cares more about feelings than lethality. My two cents.

[@moonboy2941]

NCOs are leaving because they don't want to get killed in ukraine over anal sex and feminism.

[@chefnstrike]

Nothing about the new ARMY is terrifying.

[@JamesonsTravels]

oh, i can see a few things. in particular the push to over think training and dump things like the shark attack.

[@menopillion9853]

Except being the rare individual who is taking it seriously. Then you should be terrified of the slack you have to pick up.

[@bomcstoots1]

Facts lmao. Made the walls sweat 9 years ago

[@dbarnes544]

Boot camp should be tough. Combat is a hundred times worse. Lowering standards weakens the product. Too many kids join the military like they are getting a job at their local grocery store. They want to debate orders, second guess commands.

[@danielbabcock2822]

I went to Army Basic back in '93 and like to still think it was something to be proud of. After watching this I'm even more proud that my Son joined the Marines and is set to graduate MCRD next week.

[@Vanerrad]

Increasing the training time. I absolutely agree, when I went through it was a race to learn as much as possible in as short of a time as possible, if we had more time on fundamentals and muscle memory actions, I think the average troop would be that much more affective.

[@Mercyful_Fate.]

Totally agree 👍

[@jasonwinchester5649]

Dear gravy....we came off the cattle truck at Ft Sill line of drills .20 min shark attack/PT winner was guy who ended up in the wrong platoon...senior drill and top came and got him...I shudder to think...

[@brax3486]

I went through the 22 week cycle 2 years ago and it was unnecessary long at least 3 weeks of area beautification 2 weeks of mag change drills and all the ranges runs and courses we went to were usually done by 3 or 4 lights out isn't till 9 perfect gap for all those things I was expecting alot more alot faster it was a perfect example of Hurry up and wait

[@ib8972]

The thing is, the veterans when you joined the military where saying the same thing already about the military becoming softer and the generation before them did aswell Just like people complain about kids and their phones, before that it was that kids were reading to many books and before that something else. I think as technology and military tactics advance it's ever more important to have abilities like critical thinking etc. Combat is changing and their may no longer be a need for every single unit to he broken down completely before training them.

[@DaveSmith-cp5kj]

lmao this is the exact opposite of critical thinking. There is a reason veteran suicides and ptsd is greater today than in the past when wars were even more brutal than today.

[@sebastianlucas704]

@@DaveSmith-cp5kj To play devil's advocate, are PTSD, and suicides actually up? Or, are we better at identifying them. PSTD in particular.

[@DaveSmith-cp5kj]

@@sebastianlucas704 Veteran deaths out of service are definitely skyrocketing. It's the highest out of any time in history even though we have very low recruitment rates. If we were actually correctly diagnosing PTSD, then deaths should be declining, however it has only gone up with "awareness" indicating the treatment is more of a disease than a cure. A large part of that is the tendency to push psychoactive medications due to kickbacks. Regardless of the cohort, higher usage of legal or illegal psychoactive medications always increases suicide rates.

[@660Oliver]

Sept 1983 we were bussed from the reception station at Ft. Jackson to Ft. Benning ( Old Harmony Church ) arriving about 0130. We got the shark attack, went to our barracks, drew linens, ect until about 0430. Wakeup was 0600 for chow. Wore turtle shells, no soft caps till about 6 weeks in. No games, they PT'd us till we thought we were gonna die, tore us down to nothing, then built us back up as Infantrymen over the next 12 weeks. A few guys got chaptered out FTA, but most of us made it.

[@quickzilver333]

I am so Glad I did my Basic Training and AIT in 97. It was hell on earth none of this Politically Correctness stuff. My Drill Sergeant were all Combat Veterans of the Gulf War.

[@ChrisStCyr-gnt7]

I went to Army Basic a long time ago, long enough ago that my Drills wore CIBs and Combat Patches from Vietnam Nam. I do not remember any shark attacks even when we had knuckle heads ordering pizza delivered to the barracks or wear jump books at first formation. I remember lots of PT because of those events, returning to the building and the Drills disappearing so we could have a blanket party. There still seems to be plenty of yelling and PT to correct poor performance. Most old Joes and Janes forget how jacked they were as privates so it is easy to say today’s troops are so soft. Younger people are always softer than the generation ahead of them. Read ANY historical work and you will find even the Greeks, Egyptians, and Romans found this to be true. Nothing new. Just because something is new doesn’t mean it is better, worse, easier, or harder. It only means that change is a true constant.

[@ManiacMeats]

Spot on & hard agree.

[@jimdunlap7255]

Navy boot camp 79, eight weeks of ok....the tone was set on first week when our company saw another DI slap a recruit..."ok, guess these guys are serious" I always enjoy your videos, very insightful...thanks