Arn Anderson on giving Vince McMahon his notice in 1989

[@lionheart1867]

Arn Anderson was criminally under payed in every promotion that he worked in. Every employer he had in the wrestling business should be ashamed of themselves for not taking care of him financially. He was one of the most dependable guys and always did what he was asked to do. And HE DREW MONEY AND PUT REAR ENDS IN SEATS. Thank you Arn for all the years that you entertained us. He brought absolute legitimacy to professional wrestling in an old school way, and was the heart and soul of The Four Horsemen. No one has ever done it better than The Enforcer!! Thank you Arn, for all the years that you entertained us by sacrificing your body, mind, and soul in that ring. It was obvious that you gave one hundred and ten percent every time you stepped through those ropes or stood behind a microphone. It really was "our pleasure" to watch you work.

[@shaunclifton5281]

That's the whole Truth, and nothing but the Truth. 👍

[@jpthegr8860]

Arn Anderson was, without a doubt, the most believable tough guy in the wrestling business. “Credibility” is THE word when it comes to Arn.

[@johnnybstuddd4482]

I agree, he was a super hard worker and was a legit badass. The enforcer fit his personality in wrestling perfect. He was awesome in the four horseman.

[@TruthSeekr2662]

Very true! It's very unfortunate that he got so taken advantage of.

[@GamingManual]

Arn is one of a handful of truly professional guys.

[@coreygarland5715]

I've always liked Arn Anderson he's always been one of my all time favorite wrestlers his spinebuster slam was devastating and powerful

[@dogfan4lyfe]

If I were a wealthy man I’d hire Arn Anderson to read me bedtime stories. His voice is so relaxing!

[@RashadSims-bh3zz]

I would hire him as well for the simple reason he has wisdom he can show me the ropes won't b.s. me is part of the reason why I would hire him he will tell u all about the good and bad of the business

[@adamfein4970]

Arn Anderson doing ASMR? ARNSMR

[@AllUntold]

@@RashadSims-bh3zz "sounds gay" what it this 2006?

[@RashadSims-bh3zz]

@@AllUntold u are a fucking idiot this shows your mentality stay in a child place dumb ass

[@DeitrichDavis]

Jet Forrest it’s 2020 and very sound very gay

[@CraigSmithII]

A man's word is his bond & when a man goes back on his word,he's everything BUT a man.

[@q100john]

Craig Smith II well told Jr the same thing and when the company went public the took care of them...sometimes shit is just hard to do at the time

[@anthonyobrien63]

Word

[@user-eg4bw6dw1h]

Vince McMahon came from those days too, when a handshake counted.

[@TL2354]

Shut up

[@craigwooden7649]

Interviewer stfu when Arn was saying Vince was as getting a crazy look on his face. Damn shut up and let him finish.

[@keithrowe3721]

Vince gets this crazed look on his face ... what a time for the interviewer to butt in! You gotta be fkn kidding me

[@mexighosthunter8635]

said the same thing

[@savagecatgt]

Conrad is a money Mark who is not made for interviewing.

[@jeff10455]

Thought I was the only one. Just so he can get the dates right like who cares

[@josheisert8380]

@@jeff10455 It's because his interviews are what you call "long form." Meaning as much detail as possible, even tiny details down to how you feel, what you smelled when you walked in the building, DATES, etc. He wasn't being rude Arn has all the time he wants to continue where he left off when Conrad stops him to cover the smaller details before continuing as he did around the 10:40 mark. Conrad just wants to set the tone. When Arn said "he got this real crazy look on his face" Conrad perked up to hear the rest just like us, even more so. The story was about to get good so he called a time out real quick to set the tone for the upcoming good part is all.

[@jeff10455]

@@josheisert8380 but he never got to the good part. The dates derailed him. And I like Conrad i know he’s just doing his job but dam I wanted to hear what arm was going to say. 😂

[@Dakatari]

Arn and Tully did the right Vince has pulled this okey doke on so many wrestlers in the past.

[@Scorch1028]

Arn & Tully should have "never" been $50k behind on their earnings in 1989. The Brain Busters "got over" their babyface opponents like no other heel tag team was able to do, and 1989 was a prosperous year for the WWE. The Brain Busters performed with a level of "treachery" seen by few other heels in the history of the business. Back in the day, Vince McMahon had a problem with "honoring his agreements" to pay his wrestlers the full amount that he promised them -- which is extremely problematic, given how badly wrestlers can injured during a match. In early 1991, Vince had told the Ultimate Warrior he was going to pay him $500k, which Warrior expected to happen within a few months time. When Vince hadn't paid him by Summer Slam that year, Warrior "held him up" for the money. It's no wonder that so many wrestlers "jumped ship" and signed with WCW throughout the 1980s and 1990s.

[@punktalley]

The check never came or it was voided.....can't remember excatly but one thing I do remember is Warrior never got that money or the full amount. Yea Warrior played a hell of a hand but he still lost.

[@Interscope100]

@@punktalley No Warrior got his money but Vince fired him after that, and I think Warrior got paid 2 million dollars.

[@ericthomas917]

They lost to the Bushwhackers at house shows before winning the tag team titles

[@Scorch1028]

@@ericthomas917 The Brain Busters could only lose to the Bushwhackers at a house show. Sadly, Luke and Butch were a "jobbers-to-the-stars" tag team, for their entire stint in WWE. Adding insult to injury, at Royal Rumble '91, Luke got tossed out of the ring in 2 seconds flat.

[@MiningForPies]

He should never have had his next contract cut in half when he went to WCW

[@StevenCavanaugh]

I love when these guys actually say dollar amounts, rather than just saying something like "I did pretty well." or something like that.

[@thehairywhole1209]

Arn Anderson was a true wrestler. 👍

[@nevadabob9746]

Vince McMahon is an odd man.

[@soulofanerd9364]

Very very very

[@johnwilburn]

If he would commit to just let truth roll without reservation, a Vince McMahon shoot interview would be he greatest of all time. I hope he does it before he dies.

[@John-pm1hk]

@chris bleau Both odd and smart.

[@mr.perksy]

John Wilburn agreed, but not going to happen.

[@davestuddaman8127]

Oh Hal, just sooo stunning and brave

[@stumarston6812]

I like listening to Arn. Down to earth guy. No bluster or BS.

[@Anthony-Testicali]

Arn Anderson deserved a world title run. Id have loved him to have had it in 90 as a heel defending against other heels like van vader,orndorrf.

[@HARMARSCH2]

Dynamite Kid said when he gave notice (‘88) it was because he was owed money as well. Seems like Vince played games with his employees money.

[@HipHop4lyfeallday]

Probably to keep hogan and savage off his back.

[@ericy]

Vince didn't do much different than other promoters did back in the day.

[@jonmccormick8683]

Arn was only guaranteed 10 days at $150 a day = $1500. = WWE wrestlers made very little and then “might” get that big payoff for Wrestlemania and other Pay-Per-Views. -No guaranteed big money contracts for most wrestlers. Making it a full-time job was difficult. Many wrestlers were just part-time and/or went to Japan etc. e.g. George the Animal Steele.

[@HARMARSCH2]

@@jonmccormick8683 Dynamite and Davey actually quit the WWF and went to Japan. Vince flew to Japan with Bret Hart to try and change Dynamite’s mind. In Bret’s book he said when Vince signed the Bulldogs he jumped on his desk. Dynamite was paid $25 for the time they lost theTag Belts to The Harts. When he was laid up with his back, Vince sent Bret twice to get the belt from him. Dynamite told Bret that they would only lose the Belts to Him and Jim Neihardt

[@WaitingtoHit]

And people wonder why Warrior held up Vince . . .

[@boringbill88]

I'm glad he finally admitted it was money. Before, while in WWE he would always say it was his son

[@60BloodyChamp60]

He’s leaving the part out about getting hurt though

[@Matt-cr4vv]

On other talks on the podcast it does come down to money but not money alone in context. The schedule demands in WWF were a lot more than what he had in JCP and as a result he wasn’t seeing his kid. And initially I think it was a sacrifice they were willing to make because they believed that the sacrifice was going to result in more money for his family. When they broke it down and realized that they were actually making less money, and working a much more demanding schedule, it wasn’t worth the sacrifice of never seeing his family. Had he been making double the money he had been in JCP I’m sure for at least awhile he would’ve been able to see past the travel and justify it for the income. But when he wasn’t making the money he thought he was going to make mixed with the family aspect he didn’t want to be there anymore. So while it was because of money I’m not sure writing it off as simply money alone is entirely fair in the end. I think one also has to mix in how big of a deal sticking to your word was to Arn. He left JCP where he was happy because Crockett didn’t honor the payoff he’d said he’d make. Even though the payoff was the biggest he’d ever had and he was happy with what he made. The fact that he didn’t stick to his word was enough. I wonder what would’ve happened here had Vince not said they’d make more money with him but instead said they’d have the chance to.

[@BeeBumper]

The tag team division always had more credible Wrestlers that era was awesome. Fond memories of Demolition, The Brain Busters, The Hart Foundation, I hated the Rockers and Bulldogs but they could wrestle, The Islanders, man such talent

[@mdhotstuff]

Islanders with Heenan were awesome

[@Samuelfish2k]

The fuckin Ruegio Brothers. Or however you spelled it. Lol. Bushwhackers, Powers of Pain, Power & Glory, Twin Towers, The Conquistadors, Strike Force, Rythem & Blues, The Orient Express.

[@7654x]

Watch the first 2 Survivor Series ✍🏾

[@jacobzutell1675]

The brain-busters and the rockers always had the best matches back in those days

[@jonathanturbide2232]

I still can't understand why the big match between the Busters and the Harts at Summerslam wasn't for the belts, Arn and Tully were the champions. 🤔🤔🤔

[@HARMARSCH2]

Good question

[@HipHop4lyfeallday]

You know for all that we loved in the old days I used to hate when wwf would do stuff like that on ppv titles should be defended imo why even book them if they weren’t going to defend their titles.

[@FIREBALLER100]

Because the match with the Harts was already signed when they beat Demolition for the belts, therefore they didn't have to defend them.

[@jonathanturbide2232]

@@FIREBALLER100 Thanks for the explanation, it makes sense the way you explain it. However, I wonder if they simply wanted to make sure no other tag match was going to be more important than their "big" main-event tag team match. I doubt it's a coincidence that a ppv having a tag match as its main attraction doesn't feature a tag titles bout. 😉

[@FIREBALLER100]

@@jonathanturbide2232 Considering Hulk Hogan and "Macho Man" Randy Savage were PART of that tag team match, it wouldn't surprise me. Not to mention the other two tag matches on the card were six-man tags.

[@MikeSmith-yo9ch]

Do you think you could lower the volume on the music or have the same volume as the interview , it really blasts your ears really bad . Thank you i really enjoy the inside stories from 1 of the GREATEST and most Respectable Wrestler's of all time Arn The Enforcer Anderson .

[@michaelking2582]

Arn was probably the most undervalued Wrestler in the history of this industry. Promo-wise. Work rate. Aesthetically. He had that "biker tough guy" look. You have to wonder: If he hadn't been hog-tied to Flair for two decades, I firmly believe Arn would have had a couple of title runs. He was too damn good not to.

[@chrischar9428]

Without Flair he's jerking the curtain

[@michaelking2582]

@@chrischar9428 You have been drinking too much Fenntynl and smokin' too much Vodka !! Tell me; When he was wrestling in WWF and was main eventing with Tully against the LOD, Demolition, The Steiners, etc., where was slick Ric ? When they were coming back to WCW in '90-'91, they didn't even want Tully, but they kept Arn. And where was Flair then in '91-'92 ? WWF. So for better part of 3 years, when he was headlining all over the world, Flair was nowhere around him. Oh. One more thing. Who held the TV and NWA National titles (pretty sure those were SINGLE titles) ? Arn Anderson !! Ask 'Taker who he thinks is the "G.O.A.T."; see who HE says. (Hint : his initials are A.A.).

[@chrischar9428]

@@michaelking2582 where was he before flair discovered him

[@michaelking2582]

@@chrischar9428 Bad news. Flair didn't "discover" him. Bill Watts did, and Jim Duggan mentored him in Mid South. Look. You are a "Flair fan / apologist". Cool. Great. But he is NOT the end all-be all.....

[@chrischar9428]

@@michaelking2582 how many cards was he headlining in ol MS as Marty Lunde. ZERO. ZIP ZILCH. SO MAKE ME A SAMMICH

[@tomhall431]

"No Holds Barred" brother!! It cost a lot of money! Brother!....Brother!

[@l.j.garcia1042]

Man, listening to Arn is realxing. Lol I can listen to him talk about wrestling all day long. I hope Conrad can do more of these with other wrestlers instead of just doing a show with Bruce and getting beat around the bush answers

[@flstffatboy3910]

Yes absolutely the exact opposite of a promo super calm and cool ,relaxed voice

[@TriplomatX]

Damn, that hit me. I didn't know Arn had a tour with Hogan on his way out. That's what's up. Double A, getting main event spots as a single in the WWF.

[@johnc4372]

The payoffs "were like I was brought in to work with Hogan" He never said he worked with Hogan he just compared the higher payoffs he was getting to what guys that worked Hogan got. It takes more than just listening to comprehend something.

[@MajorPaign]

John C you don’t have to be so fucking smug about it. Either tell him or dont. You chose to explain so if you were mad, you played yourself. Fucking hate rude ass people that think they are so smart. Learn some manners.

[@johnstorm9314]

@@MajorPaign How was that rude? His words of wisdom were a bonus.

[@chadk890]

@@johnc4372 It's not that serious relax.🙄

[@briankady4275]

And this is why you always, always, ALWAYS get your contracts in writing!

[@jonathanhensley6141]

Arn and Tully were an awesome tag team in WWF.

[@Matt-cr4vv]

When I’ve heard this story I’ve always been on the fence about it. I’ve always understood the issue they’d had about being substantially behind the pace of pay they were earning in JCP after being told they’d earn more in WWF. I imagine even if they were trending behind in their pay they may have felt differently and wanted it handled differently if the difference between the numbers wasn’t so large. For example, if they were maybe $10K behind on the pace of the earnings compared to $50K they’d still probably say something about it or maybe even asked to be made square right away but their faith in him to fix it may have been drastically different if it wasn’t such a wide gap between the pay. I’ve generally felt that expecting him to cut those checks wasn’t entirely reasonable to think would happen but I can get it. But I wonder if their approach would’ve been different if after that first meeting where they brought it up to Vince if their pay saw a jump for the next three weeks before they had the second meeting. If they made him aware and then maybe their checks go up 25% or more for the three weeks leading to that meeting I wonder if they’d have been committed to wanting the check right away or if they’d see that as a show or good faith that he was fixing it. Kinda how Arn mentions following the notice his checks doubled until he left. Have to wonder if their checks doubled after they first met with him if they’d have a show of faith to believe it was going to be right in the end. But when you bring it up and the next three weeks the pay doesn’t change it’s hard to take his word to stick it out. Even if after the notice he bumped it up before he said he’d take their notice maybe they’d have faith to stay around. So while I still haven’t felt it was ever realistic to have expected him to cut those checks I recognize that it probably only got to that because he hadn’t done anything else to show them that sticking things out would pan out. In a way it almost seems like the check was almost a last gasp hope that he’d fix it since he hadn’t done anything else leading up to then to give them optimism that he would fix it over time. So I almost wonder if the gap of pay was lower, and he increased their pay to start covering the gap in the meantime, if they’d have stuck to needing the check right away or if they’d have seen that it was only slightly off pace and that he was making honest efforts to fix it before they were at a point to even ask for it right away. But in the end it should have always said a lot about any guarantee he made verbally that if he meant any guarantees he wouldn’t have the contracts he did that guaranteed nothing at all. Hard to see that so many times Arn expected people to have the same character he did because clearly they never did.

[@jabrockobiden9434]

Youve thought too much about it

[@knight2000-NC]

1:21 clearly his word wasn't good as they found out.

[@billleonard7089]

What is the name of the song with the guitar instrumental at the very end of this video? It's only like 15 seconds long.

[@Beer_Baron_]

Of course McMannequin was slow playing Arn and Tully. “I’ll get you next time!” Buncha bs. Vince had no intention of ever “making it right”.

[@codered5431]

Beer Baron but of course vince will make it look like arny made a mistake thats hus way of stiffing arny

[@biggbulls3967]

Arn told me he had no idea Vince was going to send them out every night of the week and sometimes twice a day.

[@chrischar9428]

Then he's dumb

[@heyyou9693]

I think Vince likes guys that are loyal to him. Disgruntled guys don't stay, but ultimately come back. Punk, Warrior, Hardy boyz, Jarrett, Bret...all came back. Triple H stayed loyal. Undertaker stayed loyal. Granted, Punk is not a WWE superstar, but he is back in the vicinity.

[@moorejonothan]

Vince likes ass kissers and treats these guys like they are beneath him rather than men who were working for their money.

[@AnTunZee]

True, but loyalty doesn’t pay the bills. What if your job does what Vince did? Would you stay or leave?

[@mikem10481]

Arn should narrate a Sat Nav. You'll do as your told on the road with Arn 😂

[@STONESGAM]

Arn and Tully were too normal for the WWF. They were class wrestlers but just didn't have the right...larger than life gimmick for WWF. They were NWA/WCW guys all the way.

[@briankady4275]

I agree. In a federation full of larger than life cartoon characters, Tully and Arn looked like just average Joes. They just looked out of place.

[@petewheeler7283]

When Vince went back on his word, I wonder if Arn wanted to slap him "Marty Lunde" style? 🤔

[@dwade6322]

Theres a lot of words to describe Vince. I have just one. JERKOFF

[@ram0666]

Jerkoff and have WWE or any other promotion? Enough said! Jim Crockett, Vern Gagne ,and Eddie Graham all had 1 major character flaw. There werent big enough jerkoffs. You see how they ended up.

[@johnjackson5281]

So now you know why the warrior wanted guaranteed contracts money!

[@markgeorge1980]

HUGE piece of this puzzle that Arn isn't touching with a ten foot pole..Tully got fucked. He got the rawest deal in history 2nd only to Owen Hart (criticize me all you want I'll stand by my statement) The HOW, the WHY to this DAY doesn't add up...Vince McMahon 86'd Tully Blanchard straight out of the ENTIRE wrestling business..bc of a piss test??? Don't add up. Not one single bit.

[@marmcd2003]

Hogan was doing No Holds Barred at this time and it was money out of Vince's pocket I'll bet money was down because of it.

[@flstffatboy3910]

Great story Arn much appreciated

[@stevep4574]

Just seen an interview on here regarding the Brain Busters pay. After a match they were in, they came back in the dressing room and Hulk Hogan made a comment about how is he going to follow that? Obviously he was regarding their great match, and Tully made a smart ass remark. After that the Brain Busters were no longer on the same cards with Hulk. Unfortunately for them, if you weren't on the same cards with Hulk you aren't going to make top money.

[@joemendoza2292]

If you give your word, you'd better give a good reason why you can't keep it. A man's word means something in my book.

[@markmcglocklin8233]

Arn Anderson will always be the best

[@arrowwolfz]

Briefly during 1989 Royal Rumble Hulk Hogan met up with Tully and Arn in the ring giving a brief glimpse of dream match up between Hogan and 2 of original Horsemen.

[@mr.perksy]

Funny you mention that. Windham was also in WWF in 89 for a few months. As was Dusty. And Flair was close to coming in. Could have been the 4 horsemen against Hogan, Dusty, Garvin, etc.

[@zt1053]

Such a shame hogan never feuded with the original 4 horsemen

[@chrischar9428]

@@zt1053 would never happen

[@thomasa8814]

Its not a nice thing to say, But Jesse Ventura was right when he said wrestlers were stupid when it came to business sometimes. At least Arn recognized immediately Vince was full of it and ended it right away. Alot of dudes would just be happy to say "Ok Vince!" And keep getting screwed

[@vanillagorilla6091]

Not the way he does business? What about the time Hogan complained about his pay and Vince overnighted him $500,000.

[@chrischar9428]

Bullshit

[@ghostfarmer358]

Lol I knew Tully was behind that decision 😅

[@Drummer8282]

I’m guessing payouts were down because Vince was funnelling money to fund ‘No Holds Barred’ and all the things that come with that. Arn says champions made more money and he was Tag Champion at the time of this story. He was a top earner and still down compared to JCP.

[@kylesmith9944]

Why would Vince McMahon cut a 50,000 cheque to the BrainBusters? Arn and Tully were mid-card tag team wrestlers. The WWF had The Hart Foundation, Demolition, and The Rockers. Losing the BrainBusters wasn't going to hurt the company.

[@mwwilliams1967]

Vince wanted you until he had you.

[@juansanchez209]

Vince didn’t want Arn and Tully, he just didn’t want JCP to have them. He basically used Arn and Tully as pawns to weaken his competition by taking them away.

[@jetcitysinatra7300]

Jesse the Body tried to get a Union started but Hulk Hogan got that squashed.

[@JVLIVSPhotography]

Yep. If pro wrestling had a union, we wouldn’t be seeing HALF the 💩 we see today which turned out to be totally nonsense.

[@dwade6322]

Hogans a spoiled bitch.

[@ram0666]

If there was a union the top guys wouldnt get as much.Everybody would make the same. A lot more to that union stuff than people think.

[@edwardmoses1964]

That red suit 😂

[@MrRaydennis1980]

Well that explains the short title run

[@JVLIVSPhotography]

It’s been said and proven that “some turds float, other turds sink, but eventually they ALL get flushed”. I’ve got a bad feeling that Vince McMahon’s gonna get his flushing. You’d think he’d learn his lesson by now.

[@ram0666]

Forget that feeling, never going to happen. He is too far ahead from where he started to get flushed.

[@JVLIVSPhotography]

@@ram0666 gotcha!

[@bxcongero1]

Tully also pissed dirty for coke.

[@maitreyas.4902]

Who hasn't?

[@frankiesteele4248]

Vinny Mac is such a damn hoot... always trying to get over on geez

[@user-eg4bw6dw1h]

Really sad to hear this from A.A. I can't say I'm surprised, Vince is the ultimate mastermind when it comes to subterfuge. Look how he uses his own family for crying out loud!

[@michaelkpate]

I remember the Brain Busters debuting with just the personalized jackets. It worked so well because you knew they were going to get right down to business. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mILRcp9jqrGjgM0

[@hhh123837]

Callin vince devious towards the end

[@kdawg1658]

The original idea was too bring in the four horsemen too the wwf/wwe I think that would have been huge vince McMahon makes stars out of people but then again it might have been treated like the nwo was in WWF

[@mr.perksy]

Yes they had Windham in 89 for a few months, and I believe Flair was close to coming in then.

[@cappy2282]

Arn always a guy I would pay money to watch

[@1i1HrnPrpPplEater]

Vince has been bad for wrestling in so many ways. Most adults realized it wasn't real, but you still could "believe" and escape from reality, which is what most entertainment is all about anyway, but that was taken and now wrestling will never ever be the same.

[@jetcitysinatra7300]

Vince wanted you to know that he was completely in charge. Now as to the ending of this video why did the audio just stop in mid sentence? Poor editing.

[@danielreid3476]

What McMahon did with Arn's money during his last six weeks there was classic manipulation. What personality types like McMahon don't understand is that it is so easily seen thru for what it is.

[@wow77777]

Here is the thing.They were $50,000 short each.Vince promised them more $$$$ than they ever made in NWA/WCW.I don’t mean $1 more I mean lots more & here they were making way less

[@chrischar9428]

Vince doesn't offer money. Opportunity

[@theronmitchell3073]

Why did Tully go home before arn, if they both gave notice at the same time?

[@vkh2k6]

Think his piss was a little dirty

[@chrischar9428]

Failed drug test

[@theronmitchell3073]

@@chrischar9428 oh that's right

[@pateva2003]

If I have to take a wild guess Hogan probably got in McMahon's ear and told him you don't need these guys get rid of them.

[@prowrestlingdirect2163]

I always thought they left because of Tully's coke problem.

[@Shabba10456]

Arn is legend! Double AA baby

[@fjccommish]

7:39 Success/income isn't measured by the number on a tax return. Taxes are paying out.

[@JMacTheFanatic]

it sounds like either a) vince just paid him double bc Tully wasnt there so might as well pay Arn as a tag team at the end cus thats the least he could do or B) he literally he was trying to make the point that he needed time and they were rushing him but he wanted them to just trust him but bc they werent willing to wait, he just wanted them to feel bad about leaving by paying them. or maybe he didnt want the rest of the locker room to follow.

[@ikhanaton]

A

[@oldschoolm8]

I reckon it was Vince testing his talent, to prove loyalty....problem is, loyalty doesn’t pay a mortgage, bills and general upkeep! It’s why I completely get why talent went down south during the 90’s. Same, if not more, money, less dates, less travel, it was a no brainer....Shame WCW was a complete shit show in the way it was run!

[@2HitWonder]

"Cleverness and cunning": Vince is a shady dude, always has been.

[@mr.mirchenstein6549]

I loved Arn, Tully, the brain busters, the horsemen, but it sounds to me like Arn & Tully were just a little too impatient. Vince didn't put them over the Hart Foundation for nothing...But at the same time Vince likes for guys to really prove themselves & their loyalty. Kind of a shame it didn't work out better, because I think they could have been much bigger than they were, and we could have seen so many amazing match ups...

[@quicoboy]

...there's no place like home...plus family comes first...

[@JJbm4233]

Is it possible we just found one of the times Vincent McMahon had to come up with money for an NDA???

[@JerichoMile4]

Uh...always heard Vince McMahon Sr. was a classy man❗🤨 Vince McMahon Jr. = punk 👿

[@aaronrus]

id love to hear Vince's version.... i hope one day that Vince breaks down and does a shoot interview and buries all the talent. all these Vince stories are always one sided about how Vince fucked them out of money...

[@deathapedia6166]

Imagine how epic that vince mcmahon shoot interview would be I would pay money to hear that

[@martingrey2231]

@17:24 He was showing you that you lacked vision. You did not look past the money to see his vision for the company. He also knew you would tell others what happened, saving him the trouble. The WWF lacks class but VM did understand base human nature. That was his genius.

[@bentonmckinney5454]

By the time a wrestler pays their road expenses and taxes they are lucky to clear 20 cents on the dollar- so even a $250,000 contract nets only $50,000 if that Arn was a great talent and a straight shooter Vince & Jim Heard took something I enjoyed and messed it up

[@JOHNN01.82]

If i was Arn i would have given Vince benefit of the doubt thaf Vince will put it right theirs still four months left of the year to go yet before you can say Vince already went back on his word

[@jimmybeavis9185]

According to a Jesse Ventura interview, Hulk Hogan made more money at Wrestlemania III than all of the participating wrestlers, guest celebrities, managers, referees, and set-up/tear down crews COMBINED. That's all you need to know about how poorly Vince McMahon paid and took care of his people. And for Arn Anderson to never pursue a World Title from Flair because he was loyal to the Four Horsemen says a lot about him. On a more humorous note, Arn's glasses will forever be iconic, and I hope one day he does beat Tosh's a** (from Tosh.0), lol.

[@bendavidson7122]

Arn Anderson MASTER OF THE SPINEBUSTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@alphatoddio]

30 thumbs down really🤔

[@jamieoiler5690]

End of the story is vince made them look like jobbing fools at the end

[@1983jblack]

I'm not surprised it was about money. Vince pays who he wants when he wants. Unless it was Hogan in '89, no one else was going to come away from a meeting with Vince with satisfaction, at least that same day

[@TheeCoachg]

Vince was insulted that he gave two NWA guys prime time opportunity and they were basically saying his platform and promise of “exposure” wasnt good enough. Paying Arn more was a mind fuck to show him that he can change the way the pendulum swings whenever he wants. I believe McMahon reached out to former WWWF employee,Jim Herd and let him know Tully was pretty much damaged goods and in which case Arn had o choice but to take what was given to him. Tully was also the more vocal and the son of a promotor so cancelling him would quiet down a lot of the noise about cash.

[@justina9137]

Vince you owe us money. I cant cut a check. Give me time. Spinebuster through the desk.

[@theecharmingbilly]

He was probably thrilled he had run Tully out of the 'tory...

[@johnmurphyable]

let the wrestlers talk and dont fuck it up by interrupting them

[@arcaderacer586]

my grandpa would have said "country voice" .... Boy that Vince is Sneakin'

[@dr.roberts4508]

Vince gave Arn Tully's money

[@cshaw9083]

The last straw for Arn was Vinny Mac's ' Dad Bods' gimmick for him and JBL. I mean, Doink the Clown was bad enough. But ' Dad Bods' just took the whole ' embarrassing established stars' thing way too far. Sheiky ( RIP) said ' eff that no good lying JOBBER JABRONI! Hack ptu!' 😂

[@scotthall7585]

Dont interrupt guests when theyre talking. This was interesting until you chimed in with "was this before summerslam?" Then I turned off after 3 minutes of mumbo jumbo

[@guywilliams6569]

Most sales managers make LESS than their salesman, but they get the "title" they want...

[@metaforcesaber]

Everybody's money was down because Vince was giving it all to Hogan and warrior and mach.

[@ddwchamp]

It was a good and happy day when Arn returned to WCW. The idiot(s) at WCW should have paid Arn at least 3 times what they provided. WCW could have waited for an extra 30 - 90 days for Tully to receive treatment. WCW wasted funds on Movie Stars, Rock & Roll Stars that never drew a dime. These became a liability instead of an asset, meanwhile, the workers suffered unfair pay. Governor Jessie was right, the workers needed a union to fix the mess of management or WCW needed a fair and accountable Vice President. The Four Horsemen, Dusty Rhodes, Sting, Midnight Express, Rock and Roll Express, and a few others were like liquid gold.

[@stellarhyme3]

This co host ruined this cause he interrupted Arn right in the middle of the conversation, right when Arn was talking about Vince’s reaction to their notice.

[@jasondiend4248]

That is what Conrad does. You'll learn to tune him the fuck out.

[@Chupacvabra]

Conrad does so many podcasts on wrestling that sometimes, he thinks it's about him. What I find amazing is that he's like 38 and he looks and sounds 59.

[@richa7970]

Wow very interesting if true not sure why Mr Anderson would lie.

[@fjccommish]

Fatrad loves to hear himself speak. "It's not like he could call you on your cell phone." There were phones, Fatrad.

[@thewondertaker1348]

Vince means that if you work more then you'll make more.

[@nassermj7671]

And how do you suppose he became a - Billionaire?