Let's discuss Pride and Prejudice

[@wiktorianowak5659]

I know it's an old video but I just wanted to say that you have such a pleasant voice to listen to and very wise and compelling way of speaking :)

[@paigel9534]

the fact that ive read, listened to and watched this story multiple times and still watched your video for an hour is a testament to how well you explain it. also, totally I agree on Caroline being the one to tell lady Catherine about Elizabeth and Darcy, it was only recently bought to my attention that some people think it could've been mr collins and Charlotte accidentally saying something (im convinced Charlotte knew the entire time that Darcy had feelings for Lizzy)

[@ArnellaHobler]

Thank you so much! Yes, I believe it is in the book that Mr Collins warned Mr Bennett (?) about Lady Catherine finding out about it, but it is never explained exactly *how* she found out. I stand by my theory though :) thanks again, so glad you enjoyed the video!

[@imtrying2335]

charlotte knew?? that's not something ive ever thought about, i am shook, what makes you think so?

[@veronicanicholls7132]

This you lady is captivating beautiful. Absolutely story telling.❤❤❤❤❤

[@donnalayton6876]

I always had in my mind that Elizabeth is also prideful not just prejudiced and Mr. Darcy is also the same. Both of them are the a combination of both P & P.

[@laramorrison1198]

Very good analysis.

[@achooty97]

You have done a marvelous job of analyzing Pride and Prejudice. This is one of my favorite literary artworks as well and I love that your in-deep analysis of the book was very well researched. My major admiration stems from the character arcs and developments that are exactly what each would do and the change in their character is driven gradually rather than forced after each plot point. For example, Mr. Darcy only realized that he could be another rich and snobby aristocrat by introspecting his behavior and changing it only after Elizabeth rejected him. He first is bitter because his pride is hurt, but eventually, he finds his faults. Or in another example, Elizabeth realizes that she loved Mr. Darcy when they met in Pemberley after months of spending time apart, re-reading his letter, realizing that she might be wrong in judging him too quickly. These kinds of small developments are the reason I am attracted to such artwork. If you have another suggestion like this, I would greatly appreciate it. I also would request you to give an in-depth analysis of the side characters such as Mary, Kitty, Mr. and Ms. Gardiner, Col. Fitzwilliam, Georgiana, or Charlotte, etc. for another video. I know they are barely mentioned in the books, but Jane Austen has given a lot of care in developing these individuals and making sure they are as real as possible and I wanted to know another perspective of what motivations these characters have. P.S. You have a very calming voice, and the production of this video is pretty good. Keep up the good work!

[@ArnellaHobler]

Thank you so much - I can truly feel that you love this masterpiece just as much as I do! I completely agree with you that it's the gradual changes in the characters that make this story feel so believable and realistic. It makes us understand them and care about their personal growth. I definitely love the small things, too - it's usually the small details that can make a good story great, in my opinion. I would love to discuss the side characters some more! I might take you up on that idea. You're right, Jane Austen developed these characters so well and despite them not having much page time they still have their own arcs (or at least most of them). She was excellent in writing unique and interesting characters, and I feel like none of them are neglected in any of her stories. Thanks you so much again. Comments like yours are so encouraging and really make my day!

[@imtrying2335]

:D

[@teedub9598]

I just finished reading Pride & Prejudice for the first time. Your video was the first discussion that I watched. You did a tremendous job of explaining the plot and analyzing the characters. Thanks for doing this. I thoroughly enjoyed this video. I was particularly intrigued by your analysis of Darcy and Elizabeth's relationship and how that aligned with the title of the book. Darcy = PRIDE. Elizabeth = PREJUDICE. I did not catch that in my reading, though I did identify PRIDE in many of the characters and certainly PREJUDICE in them as well. I certainly appreciate you taking the time to do this video and will be watching your videos more as I continue on my reading journey. I'm now a subscriber.

[@ArnellaHobler]

Thank you so much! I'm really happy to hear that you enjoyed it. And thanks for subscribing ☺

[@PaigeWatts]

Just finished reading this beautiful book and came straight to your channel for your discussion. Such a brilliant job - thank you!

[@ArnellaHobler]

Sorry for my late reply! Thank you, I'm so glad you enjoyed it! I hope you enjoyed the book, it's a real masterpiece in my opinion.

[@amishasharma1591]

personally, I find Jane Austen's novels quite frustrating. I have to force myself to study all her works while maintaining a mindset that she was a genius which is pure torture. With that in mind, had she written just one such novel... I might've still liked her. Your videos are, hands down, really awesome. I'm somewhat able to bear Austen only because of your enthusiasm in explaining her. I believe given the talent she possessed; Austen could've written some actually great novels. But unfortunately, the mindset of Austen that can be understood through her novels is sooooo frustrating and sad. I feel this way maybe because of the obvious century difference. Overall, I can only give her liberty coz of the fact that during the time feminism was just budding, her novels do reflect a little bit of that feminist view, showing how women aren't a mere commodity to be owned. Thank you for uploading such insightful videos which aren't boring even when they are 1 HOUR long!! KUDOS to you.

[@ArnellaHobler]

Oh thank you so much! It really makes my day to hear when people have enjoyed and found value in my videos! Despite my personal feelings on Austen as an author, I can definitely understand why some would find her books difficult to get through. The writing style is archaic compared to books written today and it takes a while to get used to, even for those of us who like it 😅

[@panchitaobrian1660]

how interesting your opinion is! Sinse Austen is awesome and this girl, thinking herself being an aspiring young writer, is wortless in her analysis. I guess that is how delusional really uneducated and "not that bright" people can be :)

[@i.h.3034]

You're delightful! I'm enjoying your content so much!

[@ArnellaHobler]

Thank you! I'm so glad you're enjoying it :)

[@crisz3442]

I love this video so much and I also consider this novel a masterpiece! How would you feel about making a video discussing about the book and either the 1995 movie or 2005 movie (or maybe both☺️😉). I’ve seen snippets of the 2005 one and somehow it looks both good and bad. Anyways, keep up the good work!❤️🤗

[@ArnellaHobler]

Thank you! Sorry for my late reply! I ADORE the '95 version, seen it more times than I can count. The '05 version is quite good, too, but it's very condensed. Would love to make videos on them (as well as other film adaptations) although I'm not sure how to structure them yet. But it's likely that I'll make that someday 😉

[@radiantchristina]

I've got a large cup of tea and some knitting....I'm ready for the video 😁

[@ArnellaHobler]

Ooh, tea and knitting honestly sounds like the perfect combination for a Jane Austen discussion video! :)

[@michaelconrad4445]

In two weeks I read Pride and Prejudice and Sense and Sensibility reading that last 100 pages with out getting up but once. I simply adore Jane Austen. I recently read Sentimental Education, Les miserable and the Lady of Camellia. All very fine books, I wonder if you are familiar with any of these. I love your talks very much. They are so enjoyable and I agree with so much of what you say. Your voice is warm and lovely, and I find your mannerisms very charming and endearing. Thank you so much for this good work. ( I just yesterday figured how to leave you a comment after listening to you these last several weeks). I'm goi g to order Pamela today. Also I'm am reading Emma but not with quite as much gusto as I read through the other J.A. books I mentioned. You are so right when you say this is relationship driven, and of course J.A. Is so very good at understanding the male and female ego. She is a sociologist,psychologist, and political scientist all in one. She has such a refined understanding of human emotions and tendencies.

[@ArnellaHobler]

I must confess I'm not familiar with Sentimental Education or the Lady of Camellia, but I do know of Les Miserables, but I've only seen the musical and not read it. I'm very glad you're enjoying my videos! And you are quite right about the genius of Jane Austen. She certainly had a deep understanding of human nature that shows so well in her characters.

[@timbuyoti1198]

I love this book, the discussion and analysis you've given, also the art illustrations. I burst out laughing on 33:38, 🤣🤣

[@ArnellaHobler]

Oooh thank you so much! I'm glad to hear you enjoyed it! ☺

[@AthenaisC]

I loved this summary. The only point I disagree on is that I think it was Charlotte Lucas (via her husband) that spilled the tea that alerted Lady Catherine to the fact Darcy had an interest in Elizabeth. I love this book so much, though.

[@veronicalittle2642]

Thank you so much for such a wonderful analysis of one of my all time favourite novels. The only thing I never really understood was why Mr Wickham ran away with Lydia. She was not rich so I was never really sure what he had to gain by it. Thoughts?

[@ArnellaHobler]

Thanks for watching! In this situation, I believe Wickham was motivated by his own selfish needs. Simply put, Lydia craved attention and in being so young and gullible she became an easy target for him. But that's only me speculating!

[@achooty97]

So with Wickham, he is a manipulative charmer, who is very perceptive and calculating. He does know the right things to say to make him likeable among the group he is in. You can see this behavior all throughout the book, like how he starts to badmouth darcy, and his family publically only when the Netherfield party left Longborne or after his marriage with Lydia, he made sure his associations with the Bennets are amiable before they left for Newcastle. So people with this kind of character sometimes carry a more revenge-seeking behavior. The evidence shows that his behavior towards Georgiana was not just after her wealth, he was also seeking revenge against Darcy. So I speculate that one reason why he eloped with Lydia is to seek revenge against Elizabeth. Before leaving Meryton, Elizabeth is guarded against Wickham and he instantly realizes that Elizabeth might've had a change in opinion towards him by actually talking to Mr. Darcy. So naturally, he also has his guard up and to make sure his character wasn't publicized by her or her family. Therefore, Wickham uses Lydia to make sure their family is discredited if he was not compensated. At the time, society will blame Lydia's character and her family's upbringing than Wickham's character, and if Darcy didn't fix the marriage, Wickham would have just left her in London, and went to a new city plotting new schemes. This is just me theorizing. Please let me know if you have another point of view.

[@Coachgerri]

Thank you. I particularly enjoyed the character discussions

[@ArnellaHobler]

Thanks for watching 😊 I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@imtrying2335]

ive got an open ended question essay on friday and im only on chapter 56, im here for emotional support more than education lol

[@Sunset248-j3t]

Also I wanted to point out that it was actually the Lucases who spread the rumor of soon to be congratulations (of Darcy and Elizabeth) to Mr and Mrs Collins , and that is how it reached Lady Catherine.

[@ArnellaHobler]

Oh, thank you for enlightening me! I don't remember where this is revealed but it does ring a bell. And thanks for watching :)

[@nicolelau1118]

I really love this book and i like this really is a brilliant job that u r doing. I enjoy it so much and it's really pleasant to look at such a beauty sharing such a classic novel❤️

[@ArnellaHobler]

Oh thank you so much! So happy you enjoyed it :)

[@alexandralee4849]

Due to my ignorance of the accent, I misheard the introduction of Lady Catherine as "Lady Catherine the Bird" lol

[@ArnellaHobler]

That's hilarious 😆

[@alexandralee4849]

@ I really enjoy your videos, they've really helped me to get a grasp of what's going on (in the beginning of Sense and S. and Pride and P.) and I was able to actually start enjoying the book and didn't feel lost..so thank you...and I love hearing your accent 🩷

[@marcelavybiralova9429]

I have a bit different opinion on the title explanation. I believe this is the same case as with S&S. There it's obvious that Elinor stands for sense and Marianne for sensibility, yet we are privy to the amount of Elinore's emotion and see some (and at the end a good amount of ) reason on Marianne's side. To me, it seems that Darcy's pride stems from his social prejudices ( which elevate him above the rest) and Lizzy often forms her prejudices based on her pride. When he slighted her, he hurt her pride and it, I believe, laid ground for her prejudiced opinion on his shallowness and makes her susceptible to believe him capable of evil. He also is too prejudiced against people of lower circle than his own, to expect any virtue in their association even before he meets them(Gardiners). At the same time it seems to me like Lizzy takes pride in her prejudices - Mr. Collins, Mr. Darcy and so on - once she sets her opinion on someone she sticks to it and it is hard for her to considers all sides of the character. It feels like in both Lizzy and Darcy these two characteristics are interlinked together, despite their own nature being diametrically opposite. Anyway, they are the favourite couple of all times definitely because they seem like two magnets - at the same time capable to attract and repel each other (depending on which side they face each other, I guess). On top of that, for us ladies, it is the ultimate version of a Cinderella story😅. Thanks for your review of my (2.) Favourite Austen novel. It feels like joining an international book club now. Oh. And ps.: I have heard another opinion on who spread the L&D marriage gossip to lady Catherine, being it the Lucas's - Collins route. I did no observe this myself at first (Actually, at the time I was not pondering about this), but when rereading, I did see the hints of this being quite possible.

[@ArnellaHobler]

That is so true, I've always been set on her being prejudice and him being pride that I never considered that it could apply the other way as well! And I wholeheartedly agree that they are like magnets - equally as drawn to each other as they are repelled. I just love them, I think they have the deepest connection out of all Jane Austen couples. Heh I love the idea of an international book club!😊🤓

[@Sunset248-j3t]

Very interesting charecter analysis!

[@panchitaobrian1660]

and btw you know nothing about "intimacy and connection" between Mr and Mrs Bennet. Their young daughters could think whatever they wanted but this couple had been together for more than 20 years, had 5 kids and still had not killed each other. It basiacally means they really respected and appreciated each other and enjoyed each other´s company.

[@fadialqawal7170]

I need to write arguments about the novel but I cannot find one do you have any idea?

[@woodsandcreek7589]

What happens to the Bennet estate if Mr. Collins dies before Mr. Bennet?

[@ArnellaHobler]

Mr Collins is just the closest male relative, so I would assume it goes to the next closest in that case!

[@woodsandcreek7589]

@@ArnellaHobler thank you

[@heatheralice89]

🙏

[@maryannangros8834]

How would Caroline have known that Darcy was promised to Anne De Bourgh?

[@ArnellaHobler]

I don't actually think she did. My theory is that she would have told Lady Catherine of Darcy's attachment to Elizabeth simply because she knew that Lady Catherine would oppose the match (as she wouldn't think Elizabeth good enough for her nephew).

[@panchitaobrian1660]

Darcy didn´t ask Elizabeth to dance because he "felt bad about his earlier behaviour". Stop fabricate facts that never existed. Jane could not dance with Bingley more than two dances, it would be a scandal. And so on and so forth. Read the book first, then listen to some people who understand what they are talking about - like Dr. Octavia Cox, and first after that you may comment or even summarize classical novels without looking like a laughing stock

[@EmoBearRights]

I disagree that Caroline Bingley spread the rumour about Darcy and Elizabeth I think it was Charlotte who knew exactly what would happen.

[@ArnellaHobler]

I believe there are many valid theories for this, perhaps it is meant to be somewhat ambiguous. I understand what you mean, but I don't get the impression Charlotte would dare to break news like that to someone like Catherine whom she should know wouldn't take it well. I've always found Charlotte a bit shy around Catherine. If anything, she might have told Collins who would then reveal it to Catherine as I doubt he would be able to resist.

[@yon8378]

@@ArnellaHobler I think you are right. This would be confirmed by the leter that Mr. Collins sent to the Bennets.

[@panchitaobrian1660]

the mere survival of the Bennet girls depended on their marriages, so, no, their mother not just tried to arrange their marriages of stupidity or having nothing else to do. Your basic lack of understanding of everything Austen makes it impossible to you to actually comment on her books. But you could make comments on some make up items instead?

[@MrMobilePerformance]

I like the video, but that background music is annoying and distracting.

[@ArnellaHobler]

Oh I'm sorry to hear that! The audio levels are more balanced in my more recent videos, I can understand how the music might feel distracting in this one for sure.

[@jayentanaorem6598]

Hpy Valentine day miss 💐

[@ArnellaHobler]

You too 🙂

[@jayentanaorem6598]

@@ArnellaHobler miss where can I communicate with u when I like to ask smthng

[@panchitaobrian1660]

funny how Swedes cannot pronounce the sound "z" :))

[@marilynoverton8142]

The music playing while you are speaking was so distracting I could not continue listening.

[@ArnellaHobler]

Oh, so sorry to hear that! I do my best to make the music harmonious with the audio level but on some devices it still isn't great. Again, so sorry!

[@yon8378]

@@ArnellaHobler I agree with Marylin. The use of music in such situations is a travesty. Totally unnecessary.