Arnold Schoenberg: Kammersymphonie op. 9

Chamber Symphony op. 9; Sinfonieorchester des Südwestfunks, conducted by Erich Leinsdorf (recorded 1984). Score available at www.universaledition.com

[@riversandstones1644]

This is one of Schoenberg's greatest works. Such a masterfully compact and thematically interwoven piece of music. Incredible.

[@callmeBe]

My gosh, can you hear the Mahler influences, especially in the way the counterpoint and harmony overlays. Great stuff!

[@happyrasta1]

This type of music has got to be extremely difficult for a musician to learn to play, let alone to play well. Amazing.

[@berlinzerberus]

Wonderful!

[@DanandJoeMusic]

Never heard this before. Love it! Thanks for posting it, Schoenberg was brilliant, no doubt.

[@machida5114]

masterpiece!

[@Secruss]

Man, "I love Symphony of Destruction", too.

[@KokoRicky]

I find it very easy to appreciate atonal music. Not sure why. Perhaps my exposure to a lot of extreme music (free jazz, grindcore, noise, and groups like The Residents and Captain Beefheart) helped. It's wonderful stuff.

[@sdpstuff]

I believe it's more about most of the modern music. That intro just smells Velvet Underground

[@xanthus1]

This music sort of reminds me of old movies. Because the sound would be distorted and have a similar quality that this does. BTW I like it. Just a reaction I had.

[@dralger]

Dies ist eine der bedeutensten Kompositionen überhaupt in der Musik.

[@cied2p]

C'est trop beau ! inquiétant, mouvant, et par moments chaleureux... et magnifiquement interprété par des musiciens (chef compris) qui semblent tous sortir d'un film de Murnau !

[@thatsme92]

i love this .. you gett a hwole buch of diffrtent feels from one pice i realy enjoyed it and this is the first time for me hearing him .. im learngin bout him and others composers and i thought id check him out .. and im more then glad i did :)

[@LevNikolaevicM]

spellbinding music in a captivating performance. Recently listened to something which seems redolent of such atmospheres: "Im Tempo eines Walzers" by Di Gesu performed by Wiener Virtuosen (breathtaking playing)

[@subramaniantr2091]

If you want to represent a scene where, a person is running away from a danger or a silence or mystery or a conversation or someone playing hide and seek. You must have seen Tom & Jerry. There are thousands of things you can think about for which just tonal music alone wont give the right feel. Try to make your own scenes for a small time window of the above piece. Then try analyzing the notes and find out why those notes together gave u a scene feel. Try to experiment. Atonal Music isn't easy.

[@tsaxfreak]

it is twelve tone. The row is in the first horn. the ascending fourths.

[@khbgkh]

If you say it is impossible, then it is impossible. But work with schoenberg, and eventually you will develop an appreciation.

[@wistaphil]

Happy 100th birthday to Erich Leinsdorf, Feb 4, 1912.

[@DustBGD89]

Not yet. It`s Schoenberg`s final tonal piece, after which he used free-atonality for about 5-6 years. Only in his Op. 23, we find first 12-tone series.

[@raticida123456]

The opening is the best

[@Hilazoncheg]

amazing!!!

[@MatthewPalmer1992]

i think this is quite cool actually. I love this type of music and appreciate its significance in music nowadays

[@toke300]

very nice piece of music !

[@wannesdepondt5356]

Listening to this music really get my adrenaline flowing... So much conflict in this music. Not war-like conflict...more like inner conflict, or maybe a discussion between entities. Quite interesting indeed....

[@meriadoc077]

I played the second violin part for that years ago. It is supposed to be in E major... but not for long... though there are four sharps at the key signature.

[@cwhittamoe]

the longer i listen the more 80s movies i see

[@bernardmmarx]

Weather or not you like a piece of music is subjective, but weather it's music of quality or not isn't.

[@g4ngst4m4n]

reminds me alot of tom & jerry right now im reading his "theory of harmony" while listening to his music

[@jm960]

Obaysch...I would like to retract any criticism I posted about Mr. Leinsdorf. He did what he did well and who am I to discredit dead conductors. If he were alive today he would perhaps being among the top 25 most competent conductors.

[@Oerti2]

the first 2 chords/notes are the beginning of another brick in the wall by pink floyd

[@777wallaby777]

wonderful!! i like this!

[@XadaTen]

This is really good

[@drgabrielsoileau]

This is nice! Some of Shoenberg's later music is a little bit to experimental, but this is beautiful. I wish the sound quality was better

[@csno1]

I agree!

[@GanjaGabe]

if only we could just listen

[@GabeFrank]

This is surprisingly accessible, considering my inexperience with atonal music.

[@RealLatino34]

Hört sich an wie der Soundtrack einer alten Star Trek Folge mit Kirk........

[@apfelzimt622]

Alexander Vazquez Ja,fällt mir auch grad auf xD Wie geil :D

[@EclecticSceptic]

I spent the whole 7 and a half minutes trying to determine what my impression of this music was. I was unable, and now I'll have to contemplate what it represents.

[@LesterBrunt]

Schoenberg's writing style is for a big part based on Beethoven's style of writting. Its not about the tones per se, its more about the structures and how it changes over time. The a-tonality accentuates the structure since you are not solely listening to the pretty tones. I get what you mean though, after about 30 minutes I have had enough Schoenberg for the day so to speak :)

[@rafaelb1026]

@RandomJackOfDoom nicely said , can you explain , why ? I kinda understand but i can't really state it

[@bsalas89]

I find this work interesting, because i think while schoenberg was working on it, he used both ways, tonal and atonal system.

[@WHITECK9]

Good questions. Expressionism in music certainly is traced to the turn of that century & Schoenberg wrote a lot of it; it's also found in Richard Strauss music, too. Pitch doubling across instrument families makes play easier in one way: you've got a partner to work things out with. Harmonic language (as well as melodic line) reveals its logic with repeated play & listening. The rhythmic language is traditional & similar to Beethoven and Schubert. A.S. did write at least one film score, too.

[@belianis]

I have listened to quite a bit of AS--GURRELIEDER, PIERROT LUNAIRE, MOSES UND ARON--, and he doesn't sound all that strange to me.

[@rastabus]

Thanks for the Hungarian. So you're a fan of a Schoenberg, how wonderful.

[@wctrain]

Oh please help I'm going soft in the head? I'm I' Enjoying this? .. xP

[@pkConda]

@Ven1EdCox totally agree

[@sonofjabba]

His genius reverberates in lots of modern music. I like his artwork more than his music. I'm more into earlier composers like Schubert. Schoenberg will be more revered in another 100 years.

[@resonantdave]

This is a surprising few dislikes for Schoenberg.

[@simonwillscomposer1579]

Calamity! I was enjoying this concentrated performance and the flawless, understated conducting - really letting the musicians play and not getting in the way - and then, 20 seconds before the apocalyptic ending the video ran out! That really wasn't nice.

[@Oerti2]

epic comment! congrats!

[@JacobPriceZazz]

i think this piece is beautiful, just because a piece isnt in a major key doesnt mean it is bad. This piece in particular is quite listenable i think, especially compared to say 12 tone stuff, which i enjoy also but i can see where it would put people off. anyway i like this piece a lot, quite a wonderful performance

[@rafaelb1026]

Is this really atonal ? was actually kinda delightfull to listen to

[@2ears4music]

I agree

[@stuartadrianbrown]

@KhagarBalugrak That's an entirely subjective opinion. If you don't Schoenberg's stuff, fine. Not all music is for everyone. But why do you need to claim that he was pushing music in the 'wrong' direction? He didn't STOP anyone composing other stuff, just opened new avenues, which some of us are very grateful for. It is odd that, having accused him of egotism, you seem to think that it is your personal taste which defines 'right' and 'wrong' direction for music.

[@MaestroTJS]

@rafaelb1026 No, it's in E Major...technically.

[@Sacconi40]

Risente dell'influsso di Mahler ma ha già una forte impronta schoenberghiana. E' tutta un susseguirsi di temi tonali che si incrociano, si sovrappongono in un movimento ondeggiante, in un crescendo e decrescendo incalzante...

[@nicolesouth1716]

Atonal music is more difficult to understand than tonal music, but that doesn't mean there's no meaning to it. It just takes time to develop the ear for it. I'm just starting to... I think

[@jailbreakir]

@avianskies101 ooh that makes sense so this is a later work, when he moved away from serialism i am guessing

[@Zaelzolnir]

IMO i feel like its telling a story with sounds.

[@DustBGD89]

@b0ttomzone Yes, he does. I analyse that these days. Quartal harmonies came here big time, and it is all one big signal of atonal music. Schoenberg never liked tonality, but when he was writing tonal music, he respected it- in sense, he would give a tonic chord at the end of phrase, or piece,...

[@UnexpectedExpressive]

@Napashark well said

[@foodiste]

this isnt atonal, its still tonal music, just highly, highly chromatic and the tonal center is completely ambiguous, but its not yet Atonal. You have to wait till his post op. 11 works to get to real atonality.

[@gaemp]

hi, I don't agree... You know the "Gernan" tradition about conductors: rehearsals are more important than executions... Berliner Phil. were amazed to work with conductors like De Sabata (who created new things during in concert) as they were used to work with Bohm or Furtwaengler...

[@raticida123456]

very beautyful hehe

[@MrLwliang]

@AnarchyRatBand Lol thats tuning you know right?

[@JanDietrich]

the people who thumbed you up did obviously not understand your irony.

[@ulyssesjj]

Actually the more important aspect of the work is the development of quartal harmony

[@brutusbassoon]

this piece is damn hard. it requires a virtuoso Contra player.

[@UWOT112]

give me the rolling stones any day

[@EnjoyingGoodMusic]

yes, without a doubt alot of prog musicians were inspired by 1800-1900 romanticism, but even jazz mixed with some rock/metal/WhateverYouLike and there's a recipe for prog.

[@TheComposer1979]

i think its useful music for movie when action doesn't have an emotional sens, if this guy didnt invent this kind of music i dont think we could see the movies same way thought

[@drgabrielsoileau]

What happened to the end ??!!?!!

[@jeah33]

It's tonal, but has is writen as a note row and so doesnt have an actual set key

[@DirkLorenzen]

Hurz.

[@jm960]

Leinsdorf had a big career. He was never a big conductor though. He would have been ideal for preparatory rehearsals and training youth orchestras though.

[@billdakelski]

Well that was interesting, now where did I put my Rossini....

[@Balancement]

Why did the orchestra bother tuning its instruments?

[@Linser22]

@resonantdave that's probably because mainly fans of his work are watching this lol

[@MildyAttractive]

he's just ultra popular in the world of classical for some other reason then uh?

[@kamvysis]

The language of the piece, (lexicon, grammatics and syntax) are exactly the same that Haydn's. Only the comlexity changes.

[@Jmachine-]

I can see how it was made in the great world war one and 2

[@garrysmodsketches]

Meanwhile, the year of composition is 1906...

[@DarkZekeX]

@Icecreamskatin I wouldn't call it semi-atonality. More like frantic tonality.

[@Elhardt]

@xfvkemosx: Some people have good taste and some people don't. Some people appreciate things of beauty, some like things that are ugly and vulgar. Some people like things that require talent and skill, some people have no discernment in that area. This isn't a response about Schoenberg. It's just that I see too many people on youtube try to make all art out to be on the same level as if it's a subjective thing. That however isn't the case most of the time.

[@Matheus050]

só eu que sou br aqui?

[@clubsandwedge]

It's very interesting music, but why would I want to listen to this?

[@luquos]

Isn't all music simply chosen sounds?

[@laurokrawall]

Genre: progressive indie orchestra

[@resumacast]

Lol

[@riversandstones1644]

thats stupid

[@8louixx]

Haven't heared much of Schoenberg before. Just sounds a bit like Mahler, a bit more atonal. But listens very good

[@krixxx888]

How his atonal inventions influenced prog rock artists?

[@hexachordal]

@hexatonico hahaha! It's uncanny.

[@sonofjabba]

I didn't know he had a Sane Period..

[@machida5114]

傑作！

[@ErickAgudeloMolinasax]

King Crimson

[@jaosito]

bien binçen

[@roorybacky]

beautifully creepy

[@sweenigami]

shoenberg is the antithesis of prog

[@Balancement]

Really? How could anyone *tell* they were the proper notes?

[@ThomasGhs]

@musiccritick101 i have no problem with bethoven and stuff, but this just sounds so.... weird??

[@wilzyplug]

There isn`t a wrong or right direction.

[@jesusjosesabino5472]

Salve Vivaldi .. Schoenberg e Stravinsky aumentaram a fama do mestre veneziano ... Esses senhores não tinham talento para música tonal! Socorro, alguém traga uma sonata Scarlattii, com urgência! Save Vivaldi .. Schoenberg and Stravinsky increased the Venetian master's fame ... These gentlemen had no talent for tonal music! Help, somebody bring a Scarlattii sonata, urgently!

[@garrysmodsketches]

"These gentlemen has no talent for tonal music" Right. Let's just ignore Verklärte Nacht, Firebird, etc.