ARP Axxe vs ARP Odyssey // Why some prefer the Axxe

[@Roboami]

The Odyssey really sounds brighter by quite a lot to me.

[@pizzagogo6151]

Enjoyed that, particularly because , despite their history/ legacy , I don’t even think ever even seen a ARP synth in reallife.😮 the fact you’ve got 2 to compare side-by-side I find remarkable.

[@StarskyCarr]

Haha thanks. Years of searching is all it takes ! ;)

[@alistairsteadman3765]

I have a Solus that needs bringing back to life. I’m looking forward to getting to know it (hopefully).

[@GNeuman]

Very interesting, Starsky! Thanks for doing this!

[@StarskyCarr]

My pleasure. Glad you liked it.

[@ChristofferVig]

Nice video! I bought a second hand Axxe back in the 80s, It's been mostly unused lately. Watching this makes me want to bring it back to life again! Thanks!

[@bob-rogers]

Great video!

[@StarskyCarr]

Glad you enjoyed it cheers.

[@Vim-Wolf]

Thanks for this, I'd heard this about the two and wasn't sure why.

[@KordTaylor]

Wow! Amazing. I would have thought that the Odyssey would be a total superset. 😮

[@stevehunt2125]

Can the Odyssey do the two waveform trick if the oscillators are synced?

[@StarskyCarr]

Not quite the same, but a good idea.

[@stevehofer3482]

I learned stuff in this video. Ifyou get a chance please compare the Solus.

[@rachelar]

Beat me to it

[@leo_polo]

I just got gifted an axxe that’s in pretty bad shape but I’m taking it to my synth repair guy, did a fantastic job on a sh-101 I had him restore a few years back. Hope he can bring the arp back to life. Loved the comparison so fascinating that the single oscillator axxe sounds punchier and more present than the odyssey. Mind blown 🤯

[@MarcEdwards]

Is this just an ad for the 2600, which does it all? 🤔 Thanks for the overview! Great to see the Axxe win in some circumstances.

[@Bananskuden]

I was thinking the same, but I believe the filter is slightly different.

[@MarcEdwards]

@@Bananskuden Fair point! I guess I’m going to have to get an Axxe now. :D

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@MarcEdwardsor, possibly, a clone of the filter as its own module? (If they even exist)

[@MarcEdwards]

@@kaitlyn__L Oh good point. I don’t know enough about the filter differences from 2600 to Odyssey to AXXE and their various revisions, but I can find some 2600 and Odyssey eurorack modules. Surely someone’s done an AXXE as well, if there’s a difference?

[@TooSlowTube]

@@MarcEdwards If you get the Korg Arp Odyssey you get three filters, from three generations of the Odyssey. The 2 pole one is my favourite. There's a desktop module version too - bigger than the Behringer ones, but still fairly manageable.

[@falangistavaleroso9689]

I am getting a vintage white face, what a sound!

[@StarskyCarr]

Nice!

[@falangistavaleroso9689]

and selling my korg arp odyssey, even being the best clone, it sounds sterile to me while a vintage sounds alive as you know, best my friend@@StarskyCarr

[@rachelar]

I had it, didn't like it compared to Rev 2(Billy Currie)or 3. The latter see more powerful

[@falangistavaleroso9689]

do you think so? My taste is more early 70s sound, more raw unstable one. @@rachelar

[@Bata9999]

The subtitles at one point says "really nice big juicy fat toe" and had me dying. Great video like always

[@StarskyCarr]

I'd love to say that was intentional ... byt my tyihng is articuos

[@nexuzeb79]

Axxe sounds pretty sweet sweet though!

[@adamwroblewski1435]

Little behind-the-scenes Starsky working out the takes at the end. 🙂

[@StarskyCarr]

Haha I wondered whether to leave it in … but it made me laugh. A bout of mental spasms, being distracted by the cats. Seeing who’s watching to the end! 😂

[@adamwroblewski1435]

@@StarskyCarr to be fair, I was distracted by the cozy cat nap happening in the sunbeam behind you, too.

[@StarskyCarr]

@@adamwroblewski1435there’s another cat - he’s completely mental! Chases dogs and protects the grounds 😂checks out anyone knocking at the door and tries to talk to me through the Velux above me. All the meowing is taken out automatically by adobe software but sometimes there’s all sorts of mayhem happening around me. I often lose track and have to start all over.

[@rachelar]

How does a Solus fit in then? Somewhere in between?

[@StarskyCarr]

It's mad that the Solus even exists. ... because of just that. where does it sit. it's different, but not better or worse... why?? hahah.

[@theinterruptor]

Can‘t you just enable oscillator sync to get those cut-trough-the-mix sounds also on the Odyssey?

[@StarskyCarr]

It’s not the same. Similar.. but more phasey/syncy. Different harmonics etc.

[@AEMachinas]

AXXE is KING!

[@RoomAtTheTopStudio]

I wonder if your Axxe is the same one that I saw in Manchester a few years ago? It does sound more raw where as the Odyssey has a more musical sound although they are both close. I ended up getting a Yamaha CS10 instead

[@MisAnnThorpe]

I think it's the other way around, in that the Axxe always sounds very musical whereas much of what the Odyssey does that the Axxe can't, is pretty useless musically, to my mind. Somebody once described the Odyssey as being like an experimental laboratory and I'm inclined to agree. Saying that, though, the Odyssey is one of my favourite synths.

[@jenssonntag908]

LOL Nice aftertouch! 😄

[@esahm373]

Seems to be mostly an issue of stereo width / unison. Axxe sounds more straightforward and mono, Ody sounds wider and fuller (taking up more freq and width spectrum).

[@zdravkodimitrov]

The raw waves don't sound the same to me. Can you record and show the waves?

[@klinkske]

why is the AXXE impossible to find? Where did you buy it?

[@StarskyCarr]

Contacts ;)

[@klinkske]

@@StarskyCarr Yeah that works indeed :)

[@hakonberg8003]

The Axxe was my 2nd synth back in 1980 or so. Couldn't stand the pitch and modulation buttons, so it didn't last long.

[@StarskyCarr]

I’ve got into them recently - used to hate them too.

[@abwilson2852]

Does the Odyssey not have oscillator sync? If you synced the oscillators it would lock them together.

[@StarskyCarr]

it does, but they need to be tuned exactly to look them without any additional harmonics. I should've demo'd that.

[@princepaul5557]

So, I wonder if KORG would bring back the AXXE?

[@StarskyCarr]

I doubt it - the ody is the benchmark - the Axxe is an interesting byline

[@princepaul5557]

@@StarskyCarr yeah! You’re right

[@Bigger-Circuitry-Bigger-SOUND]

Well the Saw sound better on AXXE but the square sound better on Odyssey ! I was one of those thinking AXXE sound better than Odyssey but to be honest now i think your opening track is so dope that influenced my opinion, now i think both are great and different but your composition is the STAR. So my request is please more videos of your compositions. 🍻

[@EddieCLow]

Anyone in SoCal know where to get an Arp Axxe fixed? Have one that needs a bit of clean up.

[@Tripwelleverday]

The sweet spot is better for sure

[@progwaver]

Interesting.. I dont have an Axxe, but an Odyssey.. and a 2600... Well as I saw this video, I just realized that you can do that as well on a 2600.. Cause if you take only 1 OSC, for example OSC 2, you can have Saw and Pulse and that one with PWM at the same time. Just need to patch the second Waveform into the Mixer, but cause both come from same VCO should be the example you demonstrate here.. So that should be possible then to do. The 2600 can simulate the AXXE. What you mean by that ?

[@cthulholmhastur5317]

I had a pair of Axxes back in the 80's... Sigh. But I could swear they had S&H! Maybe I'm having a Mandela effect moment lol. But he's got S/H listed as an Odyssey "extra". .. I'm assuming that means things the Odyssey has that the Axxe doesn't. An honest goof-up I'm sure ;)

[@StarskyCarr]

Aah no it’s an error the Axxe definitely has S&H … mine broke and I’ve just had it fixed.

[@StarskyCarr]

Good to know folks are paying attention 😂😂

[@StarskyCarr]

I think I must have meant the S&H mixer

[@cthulholmhastur5317]

@@StarskyCarr thanks for the reply brother! I really didn't mean to get u all OCD about your proofreading... You know I could proof your stuff if that's a service you would need. I have excellent English and spelling, and a high level of synth knowledge. Anyway, I love ur channel! Keep it going!

[@MisAnnThorpe]

I currently have two Axxes; when they're patched together, their default sound reminds me of nothing more than . . . an accordion!

[@johnvalencia9927]

Not to mention all three LFOs can be combined at once on the AXXE where the odyssey is one or the other(s). How did you miss that?? lol that's like one of the most drastic differences. Combining all the LFOs on the axxe creates a bonkers sound

[@robertross7491]

Solus! Inverted envelope....

[@zvenx]

This may help explain why I much prefer Gforce's Axxe vs their Odyssey...

[@porchka66]

Yep, same for me!

[@TwinCitiesOxygen]

These synths got some buck teeth