Arrma Kraton 6s Running 1250KV Motor (Belted Badlands MX38, 20T Pinion)

Replaced the 1650 with a 1250kv motor in the 6s Kraton.

[@RCKnockout]

That thing looks beefed up like crazy! I really like the wheel tire setup you’re running too! 😊

[@cwatson42785]

I like them to but at 150$ for a set its way too pricey imo. I hate buying wheels at 100$ let alone 150$

[@RCKnockout]

@@cwatson42785 yeah it’s definitely a big purchase! Not cheap either

[@armandopace6113]

Thanks mate for that information I'm running 8s esc and I've got the same motor here. So it's going on now. Take the washers out between front arms and hub's that will stop popping drive shafts. It worked for my 3 kraton's 👍👍👍😁

[@JustKeepLivingFPV]

This is the combo I'm putting into my kraton. I feel like it's the best choice. The spectrum motor is exactly what the max6 needs. Not the 1650 4985 behemoth.

[@Mrf388]

Great vid. Giving me ideas for when i buy one. Thanks for sharing.

[@mikepate9765]

Thanks for being a constant in the rc community..I just ordered this truck, And was wondering how your set up is running? temp issues? 13 tooth?.. Thanks for the great content...

[@3630FS]

Nice set up !! I have the EXB running the Max6 and 4985 1650kv the motor just barely fits in. It rubs a little bit on bottom and the center cage pin sits right in between one of the groves in motor ! Don't get me wrong when it runs it runs good but if i didn't have so many diff issues in rear still waiting for the replacement for the rear to come in i rebuilt the diff with the "new limited slip" I spend more time wrenching than bashing not sure if made a good choice with EXB seams like i should be having more fun than wrenching:( PS, my bashing is only nominal small hills and ramp nothing extreme!

[@levihogge9144]

I been running the k8s system in my exb from day one ! It's the pretty well rounded system in my opinion for the exb I run it on 4s which acts like it's on 6s on 23t pin an on 6s is way wild but controllable haven't tapped in to 8s power yet 😁 nice video hope you enjoy the set up

[@JasonPerrinRCVlogs]

Good to know. I was surprised by how much I liked it. I thought it was going to be nothing but torque. But it is very well rounded motor.

[@gazmurphy9770]

Whats the power like on 4s buddy 🤔 manage back flips ?

[@joshpurser4810]

Man that things looking sweet!!! Man can tell you been in the rc game along time now💯. Man the 6s kraton moving!!! I had a question because because you do alot of tire changes and was wondering if the proline badlands 3.8 would be a good fit for a arrma talion?

[@GyuHobbyRC]

I"ve never seen such a great video in my life I wish you prosperity 형제 친하게 지내봅시다 😀😀

[@meda2ni]

Nice build. When I get my K6s V5, I plan on those belted tires ;)

[@ValFPV]

Heavy tires keep killing the diffs on mine, I would keep the stock tires

[@xxg0t3mxx]

Stock balloon so bad... It doesn't stay down lol and steering is all off.

[@JKZ103]

I would say you had temp issues because its the weight of a 1/6th scale rig and your tire choice. When you modify the trucks to that point there is no weak point. I keep them as strong as I need for my style bashing but still keep them light. It looks good and I'd say now can be jumped out of a plane... hope you get it dialed in

[@cwatson42785]

That's why I run the backflip lps. They are nice and light and hook up great!

[@stx7389]

How can it be weight issue? When the motor is significantly stronger then 2050 that is stock?

[@darrenlucas5046]

Another great video. Thanks! I just got Kraton 6s v4. All stock. Only 2 runs on it. Need better tires. Could u recommend a belted tire other than ur Badlands belted. As they are probably to heavy and big for my stock Kraton. Also I need help with what diff Fluids grade I should use in front, middle and rear diffs? Ur setup runs perfect. I don't have a lot to spend on experimenting many different fluid grades. I really appreciate ur help. Thanks. Looking forward to watching more of ur great videos. Keep up the awesome work.

[@JasonPerrinRCVlogs]

I did have the belted trenchers for awhile. They were okay. Duratrax does there 1/6 belted tires really well. But I am not sure if they make a 1/8 belted tire??

[@rc_brad7059]

I have a similar build to yours and having heat issues. What size pinion are you running with the 1250kv motor in this video?

[@JAM76ER]

What heat sink is on the 1650?? I’m having a hard time finding one that fits. Thank you Sir. Your videos are great.

[@doitalldad3499]

Great videos Jason! Are you using a Futaba transmitter?

[@JasonPerrinRCVlogs]

7px

[@sickduck66]

One last question brotha.😏 What is your diff setup? LSD/LSD/open?

[@candyred3v]

Got the electronics from my red outcast 8s im gunna stick in my 6s typhon. And that stuffs going to the typhon mega. Trying to make my typhon fly.

[@clairecooper3848]

It’s funny but I’m running the 1650 / Max6 combo in mine . It’s also fully upgraded like yours at just over 15lbs and I’m getting no heat issues at all . Only difference is I’m running stock tyres / wheels It must be the MX38’s that’s causing the motor to work harder .

[@xxg0t3mxx]

Mines stock 6s v5 and swapping out to speed pinion gear made mine hot.

[@joshalvarez11]

What size pinion are you running?

[@xxg0t3mxx]

@@joshalvarez11 was running 15 speed gear it came with but dropped back down to 13 to save my body and wing lol

[@clairecooper3848]

@@joshalvarez11 if that’s for me I think it’s 19 tooth

[@joshalvarez11]

@@clairecooper3848 that's good to hear. I've got the 1650/max 6 with a 20 tooth on the way. Crossing my fingers for decent temps. I really don't want to rig up a fan.

[@crazylarryjr]

I have dabbled with lower KV motors, even gearing it up a little (to compensate for speed), they tend to run cooler. I used to have an RC10GT with a lehner1200XL on 5s lipos, it never got hot even in the Ga summers, and would embarrass 1/8 buggies on the track

[@backyardbashing6136]

I’m suprised it was getting that hot with the Max6 and 1650 motor when lots of people run that in their X-Maxx.

[@JasonPerrinRCVlogs]

So was I. I thought the 1650 would handle this truck with no issues.

[@blakehyslop2605]

@@JasonPerrinRCVlogs I just learned that if your esc is cold but motor is hot then ur under geared! This may have been ur problem

[@derekquinones8614]

@@blakehyslop2605 is this true?

[@turbodutch]

@@derekquinones8614 sounds true. Its like bicycle pedalling. Going as fast as you can on the lowest gearing will get tiring (hot) you have to work your ass off to keep the speed up. Thats why you shift up (gear up)

[@restinpiecesrc5528]

No surprise its a monster, normally in a truck twice the weight, on 8s itd be effortless

[@Tegridy_Rc]

Badass truck man!

[@BRIM7]

Loving the SLYNK background music 👍

[@FilthUD]

I have this exact same setup w/ a 22T pinion and it kinda sucks when not on 8s lol. It feels WAY slower than the 2050 w/ a 14-16T pinion.

[@trentgalloway]

Holy Helsinki man!!

[@sickduck66]

So with the max6 and 1250kv what gearing would you recommend?

[@imruss18]

Run 17t-22t pinion and 42t-48t spur

[@kevincarpette5009]

Hey Jason whatever happened to this truck & build for it??? I would like to see the additions you done to it since. Thats if you still have it.

[@JasonPerrinRCVlogs]

It was traded off. The truck ended up way to heavy with that chassis. Beautiful piece, but just not practical.

[@brandoncollings9122]

I'd love to see a speed run with this motor.

[@jlafferty7713]

Any chance you might do a speed run with that motor (6s and 8s)??

[@QuinnsRC]

I just got a 6s V5 and am planning to swap in the 1250/160 system that my used Limitless came with, and put the 2050/150 in the Limitless for track racing. Wondering why you went with the Max6 in the EXB when you seemed to like the 1250 in your Kraton BLX and the Max6 system ran hot?

[@xxg0t3mxx]

Love those tires.

[@Dos_Rc]

I run my K8S system on my kraton exb I run it on 8s and a 23t pinion and the thing is just ballistic I managed to put the heat sink on by cutting off a little bit of the heat sink where it meets the body support pin area no heat issues but then again it’s winter ❄️

[@cue03]

What is the stand you had it one and spinning around? Looks like a cool little car stand.

[@chickenamburgsrc]

So I don’t need a fan on mine? I’m running the same motor but with the firma 160a, 20t pinion on 6s stock tires do you think I need a heat sink and fan?

[@GreatLakesRC]

Glad you tried the 8s motor in the 6s! I have been running it for a bit now in my Kraton 6s on a 22t and it's amazing! I also have to 1650 that I used in the Kraton 6s and it was also good but the temps on the 1250kv are so cool and it just feels like it has more torque. With all the added weight of these fully options 6s the lower KV just suits it. Glad your loving this truck! Might want to try your 1650kv on your K8S with a 16t and a heat sink. In the cooler weather it actually works well in there and has more speed.

[@JasonPerrinRCVlogs]

I have thought of it. I just got back from another rip with the K8S on the 800kv/39T 1:1 and I am liking it a lot. The mid power is crazy. Top is is only 6-7mph more though .

[@GreatLakesRC]

@@JasonPerrinRCVlogs ohh, that is good to hear. I have been leaning towards getting the Leopard 5298 1200kv motor 👍

[@TrdTodd]

My EXB is supposed to be here in a couple days I ordered! I’m so glad I bought the 1250 spectrum motor/esc combo for it after watching this figured I wanted it over built for 6s so I don’t have to deal with heat issues! Although I am a little worried about fitting the 160 amp esc in there and having a solid mount a little ocd about that one...

[@JasonPerrinRCVlogs]

Your truck is going to rip. The thing weighs almost 15 pounds so a stock EXB is going to rip with this combo.

[@TrdTodd]

@@JasonPerrinRCVlogs sweet! Thank you for the reply! Glad I upsized!

[@dickfantastic7908]

It will fit. I ground off that little plastic lip on the mount and sanded it down smooth, then used Shoe Goo to attach my 8s esc. It's in there solid as a rock now.

[@TrdTodd]

@@dickfantastic7908 I did the same thing ground off the lip it’s on with a zip tie and double sided 3m for now. Thanks I think I will try the shoe goo down the road if it comes off! I absolutely love this setup soo fun!! Huge fan of the Kraton now and Arrmas in general!

[@JustKeepLivingFPV]

The hobbywing 1650 was getting hot?

[@joshherrman3201]

Jason have you had any problems with those tires wobbling like a bent axle? I have on tire that wobbles. Proline has a video about it just curious if you have had any issues.

[@TRAIL_MIX_BILLY]

Will the Kratons EXB 8s Esc work with this motor?

[@boxy1803]

You ever run this one anymore? Curious to what you did after dislodged front cvd…?

[@hectordavila5877]

YOU CAN TRY ,MIP CVD'S BUT THEY ARE EXPENSIVE....LOVE YOUR MACHINES, TAKE CARE!!

[@itsmeericbrc4453]

20T is fine with the heavy Badlands? I am about to some on my Kraton V5 and i was thinking of running the stock pinion (12T).

[@imserious2187]

I’m stuck between those and the sweep racing terrain crushers

[@truenewsglobal]

I’m having major temp issues with my Max6 combo.

[@CommanderAstigRC]

Are those the MX38 belted tires? How are they performing on the Kraton

[@JasonPerrinRCVlogs]

I like them a lot. They weigh less than the belted trenchers too.

[@CommanderAstigRC]

@@JasonPerrinRCVlogs thanks man.. ordered a set. We'll see how they do.

[@lyftjennings1890]

8mm bore now with mod 1 pinion still ? And always hated dog bones

[@edwinlomonaco6754]

What chassis are you running?

[@nd83tran]

Is that with stock v4 mount and 50t spur? Will the 50t spur fit 23-25t pinion. I also ordered a felony center with 46t spur incase it doesn't. Wanted to ask if it felt like lacking in top speed on 20t compared to stock and 1650? Any speed reading for it? Thanks and great video

[@JasonPerrinRCVlogs]

Stock spur. I still have some tweaking to do. I am going to thinken up all 3 diffs and then going to try a 22t pinion.

[@nd83tran]

@@JasonPerrinRCVlogs LMK how the 22t does for you and from 23 and 24. Wanted some feedback on car top speed and torque feel. Thanks

[@deepvoice2652]

Which tires do you like best on your kraton 6s, trenchers or badlands and why???

[@eddymcintosh5551]

I've just put the same gear in my kraton exb, I'm wondering how my standard diffs hold

[@RcbasherNcrasher13]

Was thinking about getting the 8s spectrum system with 1250kv motor .. my blx185 basically fried and I have no idea why... so its either this system or the spectrum 2050kv combo .. any advise would be appreciated

[@swooptorres1998]

what exact chassis is that? Is it the M2C CHASSIS you are using ?

[@sir_puffs_alott_rc]

He's using the just bash it chassis

[@MJ-gq9nv]

Dam week parts gpm bling,,test n tune pro ✌️

[@AutoBodyEverything]

That 1250 runs better than the 1650 way faster and way more control!

[@27pugsly]

I upgraded my pinion too and some reason it stops and u turn it back on it starts for like a couple minutes then stops again ? Could it be running too hot do I need a fan ? I see u have a fan which one is that ?

[@xxg0t3mxx]

Yeah too hot. Or weak battery. I'd stay around 15 to 17. Or add a few days.

[@barxkyRC]

what esc are u using? the stock or the one with the 1650 combo?

[@JasonPerrinRCVlogs]

I'm running the Max6. Firma 160 is still sitting on the bench.

[@barxkyRC]

@@JasonPerrinRCVlogs thanks i cant still decide if im getting the k8s esc motor combo or the max 5 combo for my kraton exb...

[@Harvz78]

What chassis is that?

[@annawalczak83]

Hi can i fit max6 combo with 1100kv motor on kraton 6s ?

[@ShadeTree_RC]

problem i have with mine and im running on stock chassis ....someone needs to make a motor for us 8th scale guys

[@coryfassett3991]

hay this cory what chase do you have is it from just bash it thank you

[@JasonPerrinRCVlogs]

Yes. The JustBashItRC one.

[@coryfassett3991]

@@JasonPerrinRCVlogs thank you

[@josephsantoli9972]

Cut the heat sink in half and zip tie it around the motor. That’s what I did

[@joshchatwin8569]

Get some fans on the 1650kv motor

[@ronniecreason7870]

Custom RC upgrades titanium drive shaft but no Front CVd

[@serpent977e]

can you give me mx38 tire link??

[@max2max706]

Ciao,you have to excuse me, but after half of the video I didn't understand anything .. all that shiny aluminum. 🤤😲 Then those wonderful gift rims , bad thing modeling. 🤪😇

[@deepvoice2652]

Max 6?

[@JasonPerrinRCVlogs]

Yep

[@deepvoice2652]

@@JasonPerrinRCVlogs I have the same car and I'm ready to beef it up. Would that same set up work for me? I'm asking because I have the stock chassis and I think you're car is a lil heavier than mine.

[@DronePlayground]

😎👍👀🇭🇷

[@dickfantastic7908]

Building out my Kraton EXB now and your video makes me wonder. I picked a Castle system, the 1717 motor with a Mamba Monster XL 8s esc. I'm planning on running a 20t pinion too. I don't have a lot of the heavy aluminum stuff on there like you do, but the EXB is definitely heavier than the stock Arrmas I have. I've watched a lot of videos on the Castle systems and people are reporting they really run cool, I'll have to see if I have problems like you did with the heat with this motor/pinion combo. For the record the 1717 barely fits just like this Spekturm you put in here. Looks to be about the same size.

[@annawalczak83]

Hi can i fit max with 1100kv motor on kraton 6s ?