Matthew Lloyd, 3 times Coleman medalist who averaged just shy of 3.5 goals a game is offering some free coaching to your full forward and you say nah we’re good 🤔
@alexjones96742 жыл бұрын
Love watching Lloyds breakdowns, hands down best presenter on this show.
@tb76672 жыл бұрын
Just a really poorly run football club. If they aren't offering terrible contracts to players like Hill and Hanneberry, they are knocking back free offers of help from one of the greatest kicks for goal of all time.
@TheLaughingMagpie2 жыл бұрын
Knowing St Kilda, they’ll probably offer $1M to Jordan De Goey
@lukemate27832 жыл бұрын
@@TheLaughingMagpie I reckon they’re more likely to give that to Dan Hannebery
@TheLaughingMagpie2 жыл бұрын
@@lukemate2783 Hannebery is past his sell by date, they will probably insist he retires, they won’t get Amon, so De Goey is their bet
@lukemate27832 жыл бұрын
@@TheLaughingMagpie it was a joke chief
@goat66512 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why they wouldn't get help from a 900plus goal scorer
@gustaaf18922 жыл бұрын
That was the worst display of goal kicking from the simplest of positions I can remember seeing. Missing the whole lot with outright hooks and shanks was amateur hour. If the Saints think they have the expertise in house they have to sack that person, because he has failed Max and the club which has now cost the Saints possible finals football. Very generous of Lloyd to offer his services for free. Most ex-players charge considerable 'consulting' fees to provide specialist training sessions.
@criddlegakes26502 жыл бұрын
He was helping Daniher for free too, but Daniher rocked up late to the first session then not at all to the second one so Lloyd gave up
@bro54692 жыл бұрын
Loyd was the coach of King’s high school footy team, so they are mates. Just a favour
@darrenmiles-morland80382 жыл бұрын
Jarryd Roughead used to do exactly the same thing that Max King does whenever he was having shots for goal during his playing days. He was never a reliable set shot kick for goal. You can see where Max King gets it from. Roughead is the problem, the Saints ought to sack him, but they are too arrogant and stubborn to do so.
@timbozelle61652 жыл бұрын
Check his 0.7 performance earlier in the year
@sonjakozman16992 жыл бұрын
@Bro 54 so it's Lloyd who is responsible for his terrible technique! That's ironic.
@rod71392 жыл бұрын
If a professional footballer has to go outside of their club for skills assistance what the hell is the plethora of existing coaches doing?
@tb76672 жыл бұрын
It's a unique situation because Lloyd knows King from school football and he also happens to be one of the greatest set shots of all time. They are insane to be knocking back his offer to help.
@davidallan49002 жыл бұрын
@@tb7667 Exactly - so absurd. Yeah Jarryd Roughhead was good but unless you have plugger on the line I am taking M Llloyd
@jimmyriddle52462 жыл бұрын
Living on the gravy train
@pk9522 жыл бұрын
Not much obviously!
@raspanda81232 жыл бұрын
Wait if I'm not mistaken M Lloyd worked with Levi Casbolt a little time ago when he was also struggling with set shots goal kicking at Carlton? Now Levi is an improved goal kicker
@richardbehan81182 жыл бұрын
Simple question. Why wouldn't you want Lloyd's help?
@gustaaf18922 жыл бұрын
Dumb stubborn pride.
@AZ2PM2 жыл бұрын
Arrogance and ego. As a saints supporter, I'm tired of this club with 1 premiership in 150 years acting like they are above such help. Pull your heads in and humble yourself.
@richardbehan81182 жыл бұрын
@@AZ2PM I saw on the news tonight that the saints have come out and said they are open to getting help for outside the club 👍
@Glyvenator2 жыл бұрын
I do like how they praised King for seeing the problem and seeking help, which is exactly what anyone should do in that position. I also appreciate how they basically gave a basic lesson free on air for King to watch without anyone from the Saints club being able to say anything about it.
@aroy80942 жыл бұрын
Not just for King mate, I've made my kids watch that as well. Very solid simple lesson
@tmc39802 жыл бұрын
Outstanding technical analysis Lordo. Made a meal of it Ratten.
@purplehazeffc2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter what team you go for or what you think of Lloyd. But for any young player. That is easy, simple advise right there to follow..
@tonyl65202 жыл бұрын
I love matthew lloyd. he can say what ever he likes, cause he's done it all before.
@MegaCaza12 жыл бұрын
Max King has a very bad technique when you compare it to key forwards both in the past and present. He needs to change his technique, or else they'll go nowhere. If Roughead is in fact in charge of keeping Max King in check, then he needs to go. King has been plagued with poor kicking all season, if he kicked straight he'd win the Coleman by a mile. King clearly has talent, but his confidence is shot, and a poor technique will keep this St Kilda side from ever going anywhere, no matter what they do in the offseason. On a side note sheer arrogance again from Ratten. Has his favorites, and never challenges players besides a certain few. I honestly have no idea why they resigned him, funny how after he was resigned they've gone backward. If you can't accept criticism or feedback in the AFL as a coach or player you're not going to ever win a flag in my opinion.
@kennedysan10452 жыл бұрын
Roughy leaned back on his kicks, hope he's not passing that on.
@darrenmiles-morland80382 жыл бұрын
@@kennedysan1045 That's exactly what he's doing. Was Roughy ever a reliable set shot kick for goal? About as reliable as what Max King is these days.
@Boomersh0t2 жыл бұрын
@@darrenmiles-morland8038 578 - 370 career G/B for roughhead
@mattkearney112 жыл бұрын
@@Boomersh0t Lloyd kicked 926 goals for 424 behinds. Monumentally better than roughy
@jimmyriddle52462 жыл бұрын
His technique is not all THAT bad. It's all in his head.
@fromjarrod2 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe so many AFL players that can’t kick set shots. Maybe they should try lawn bowls or curling?
@phillipmarnik2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a Saints supporter so I'm happy with his kicking style. Not being able to kick goals is great for the opposition.
@jakesands75442 жыл бұрын
Stupid comment
@xpictos7772 жыл бұрын
It’s easy. Players never miss passes by that much. You just have to kick it like you’re passing it to someone behind the goal.
@lesking57822 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised they haven't approached the greatest full forward of all who had the best preparation when shooting for goal........and he played for the Saints!
@zuenergy2 жыл бұрын
Lmao, Jay Schulz offered to help John Butcher with goal kicking at Port. Ken said no, but you won't hear about that from Kane
@troyjackson97432 жыл бұрын
and how did butcher turn out for them? So guess that gives kane a better perspective on it than most.
@makembounce692 жыл бұрын
Let's be Honest Butcher is No max King and his technique was way worse , dumb comment
@zuenergy2 жыл бұрын
@@makembounce69 my point is that Kane won't criticise Ken Hinkley like he would other coaches.
@paulkyriakopoulos34442 жыл бұрын
Club must get him a proper goal kicking coach like Lloyd and pay good money otherwise the lad will continue to choke when lining up for set shots on goal.
@LDSports9332 жыл бұрын
Darcy Fogarty might need to give King a few lessons in goal kicking. He's at a similar point in his career and already top 5 all time for goal kicking accuracy.
@FactSpeakeryo2 жыл бұрын
How do you think it feels being a saints supporter, it legit hurts me seeing his early years go this rocky cause his potential is endless if he nails it.
@mrbluey81842 жыл бұрын
These muppets say our club has ego like who’s the ones talking honestly muppets
@gavinbottcher91742 жыл бұрын
They shouldn't need to bring in help they have multiple coaches if they can't teach them how to kick properly they should be moved on.
@kymbo722 жыл бұрын
Great analysis by Lloydy there
@thevman52262 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand how AFL forwards can’t kick straight in set shots. You look back over the years, some of the greats like Lockett, Dunstall, Fevola and of course Lloyd, were flawless. In one game Lockett locked 16 straight!!! As a forward it’s your job to kick goals and make that huge impact. Now days these pretenders are getting paid triple the money and feel they need to have a snap shot, from a set shot mind you, from 20 metres out. What’s happened to the game? It’s simple, players play for money not for the love of the game.
@azzajames76612 жыл бұрын
Screw Max, how about Matthew Lloyd works with Harry McKay and Charlie Curnow instead😜
@maxkhan17862 жыл бұрын
I agree with loyd completely saints have an ego problem
@Babyzilla5262 жыл бұрын
Which is hilarious because we are such a flop of a club! Defensiveness borne of historical pain
@maxkhan17862 жыл бұрын
@@Babyzilla526 couldn't agree more they've come along way but still a long road ahead I think another 2/3 seasons and they'll be a consistent threat.
@gregmayo69872 жыл бұрын
St Kilda just playing slow boring footy... The coach won't be there after next year
@tcmx7122 жыл бұрын
Obviously didn't see the game on the weekend because that certainly wasn't a slow boring game of footy by the saints at all. The saints started slow then gave it to them later with immense pressure
@mattl98312 жыл бұрын
If St.Kilda were a English Football Club, they'd be in the 4th tier. Absolutely a small club with a losers mentality.
@wayneperry74132 жыл бұрын
Remember watching Lockett, he used to really lean over the ball
@DB-sc2hg2 жыл бұрын
I barrack for them and they frustrate th3 hell out of me. Same ........ different year.
@thatmightyskywalkermullet11412 жыл бұрын
Get rid of damo & tj. Your ratings will spike. No worries. Edit: and kane 👍
@mrbass13102 жыл бұрын
Fancy a professional footballer needing help to kick straight haha is this serious? Its like an english teacher needing spelling lessons. Poor old saints
@andrewr.44962 жыл бұрын
Lloyd failed to teach him properly at school, try someone else. Max is a future great, he should be leading the Coleman Medal.
@mrbluey81842 жыл бұрын
22 years old, you blocks didn’t hit your prime till u were 28 give him a break. And how does a team who has won 1 flag have an ego muppets
@brettmoyle11952 жыл бұрын
So we got 2 more years of rattens blank stare at the game ..here it is ..Sinclair into the middle permanently..hill on wing permanently..giv king a run in ruck drop Marshall to full forward for spell ..put sharman at full forward swing king to centre half forward rotate with membrey ..Owen's and windhaiger in pockets ..do u ever think at all ratten !!
@aroy80942 жыл бұрын
While it's stupid to not allow Lloyd to coach king, I get it wanting to keep it internal but why not go approach someone like Nick Riewoldt and get him the help he needs. I am not a saints supporter but the club is jeopardizing themselves and this kids career and it is shocking to watch.
@lewislibre2 жыл бұрын
Riewoldt was never a great set shot
@aroy80942 жыл бұрын
@@lewislibre I can assure you he was better than max King
@lewislibre2 жыл бұрын
@@aroy8094 haha of course but there’s a lot better set shots out there than Nick Riewoldt that you could get to help him
@davidallan49002 жыл бұрын
@@lewislibre Yeah like maybe..... Matthew Lloyd
@pk9522 жыл бұрын
Reiwoldt was a terrible kickfor goal! Had a shocking ball drop
@kingtyranius22072 жыл бұрын
How can you play at the AFL level and have a flawed technique and expected to kick goals?
@1983theiceman2 жыл бұрын
Leave the club go somewhere that will make you the best player you can be.... come to Melbourne ❤💙
@Cornman19592 жыл бұрын
Ratten has just doomed the Saints again in the future. Everyone from the President to selectors and coaches need to justify their performances. This club's history is so poor, time for radical action, Tadmania.
@divad232 жыл бұрын
To be honest, King’s ridiculous moustache has to go. It was a fashion for 6 months 2 years ago. It’s done. It’s the last thing a 22 y.o should be spending a second on.
@rowanwells38412 жыл бұрын
We are a joke of a club
@34pessimistic2 жыл бұрын
Jarryd Roughead?
@Matt-cp9wh2 жыл бұрын
he cant kick goals because his technique is not good. its not rocket science
@blahblah62272 жыл бұрын
brett ratten a poor choice for coach, just mediocre at best
@archiefox14142 жыл бұрын
Kane Cornes makes this show worse. He is an absolute flog.