Stories from Monkey Hill IV - Knotty says goodbye :(

See how cruel Knotty's mum is to him. Episode concludes with Dopey, Baty, Stumpy and lastly the Little Prince :)
Light Thought var 3 by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution licence (creativecommons.org/licenses/...)
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[@IamAmericasDaughter]

Heartbreaking to watch Knotty trying to get some love and positive attention from his momma. He had it tuff. But he had loving aunties who adored him and still do... Thank God.

[@trishplanck9776]

It’s been so long since I first started watching your videos and I came across some older ones I hadn’t seen so started watching them, and I had to laugh watching Dopey as a baby because I’d forgotten just how uncoordinated he was.🤣😂 He reminds me of the Weeble dolls. How utterly adorable he was!🥰

[@chutzpah5603]

Arroz your videos are the absolute BEST!! Best comments.. best music.. and you respect the subjects space and privacy. Keep em coming! 🤗😘

[@Mandy7D7]

I think Dopey won the lottery when it came to a Mother. I don't think I've seen a Mother as patient and sweet, firm when she has to be but still gives that kind of love and security as Reddy. Maybe I'm wrong or there are many Reddy's out there but I have a lot of respect for that sweet girl. There are so many humans with all the benefits of food and warmth who still can't be as patient and loving to their kids.

[@nancygomez1072]

♥️ Dopey is so little here! How lucky he is to have Reddy as his mom! ♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@alliebagz4936]

he is just the sweetest little thing ever!!! I could watch this little guy all day long.. he has a very unique looking face... which again makes me think he may have a muscular disorder... but either way thank god he has.mom there to help him !!! He's such a precious little guy!!! clumsy as ever!!

[@karendwight88]

Thanks for sharing these wonderful videos with us.

[@leahmacdonald4868]

Just tuned into your videos, very entertaining, love your format, expression and content.

[@malissahall9926]

I LOVE WATCHING YOUR VIDEO'S . KNOTTY'S MOM ACT'S LIKE MY REAL MOTHER NEVER WANT'ED US BUT KEPT HAVING KID'S 12 OF US . BUT DOPEY'S MOM ACT'S LIKE MY STEP MOTHER SHE IS AWESOME I WAS SO BLESS'ED TO GET HER AS MY STEP MOTHER THE GREAT SPIRIT GAVE ME THE BEST OF THE BEST STEP MOTHER'S IN THE WORLD SHE RAISED ME FROM THE TIME I WAS 3 . I WAS TRUE'LY BLESS'ED WITH HER .

[@D-me-dream-smp]

I’m so glad you found the love and care you deserved - I’m sure she felt blessed to have you to love too.

[@hightea2546]

Sad to watch, at least knotty has aunts who care , what a contrast in mothers,,, thank you for such a wonderful video of life on monkey hill,,, so enjoyable,, thanks so much🤗🤗🤗💓👍🏼🥰

[@patriciasmith6894]

thank you, that was a wonderful video.

[@ArrozMarisco360]

+Patricia Smith you are welcome.

[@malissahall9926]

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TUNE IS PLAYING BUT IT IS SO BEAUTIFUL . LOVE HEARING IT VERY MUCH AND IT'S NOT TO LOUD THAT YOU CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING . THANK'S FOR YOUR GREAT VIDEO'S .

[@greekossandals]

Malissa hall it says in the description about the music

[@faithmoore3243]

Amanda Watanabe I looked can’t find it ?

[@greekossandals]

Faith Moore Light Thought var 3 by Keith MacLeod...

[@greekossandals]

Faith Moore excuse me, Kevin MacLeod, I guess

[@greekossandals]

Lol my silly ass was trying to remember it from the description when I should have just cut and paste (since you can’t scroll back up to the description in the middle of trying to write a comment) 😅

[@kkossor3046]

I started singing "Well Hello Dolly Welcome home Dolly! It's so nice to have you back where you belong" ... with little Baty. That was AFTER I dried my eyes from little Knotty. He's so happy & bouncy too. How could she not love him? This series was stupendous. You have such a gift! Many Thanks.

[@raquelitaregondola8129]

Never get tired watching old videos of our boys .

[@hightea2546]

Just so you know , after reading your expose , doing my own research,, you are only person I am subscribed to, hoping my small contribution of my subscription will help you to carry on, with your most enjoyable videos, thank you more than mere words can convey🥰💖

[@garystevens7575]

He’s MR. Sheffield from the tv show the NANNY!!! Pretty cool huh!

[@autumn7ful]

I really love Dopey he was my favourite

[@BIgRon2176]

22:16 A little like having a big rubber band to play with and chew on. And we gripe at the MOM's for complaining.

[@chutzpah5603]

Poor Knotty.. he playfully tries to get mom to notice him but it's like she doesn't see him at all. He's a little dream.. but mom.. she's just a big nightmare! She sidestepped to avoid him and sits on his tiny body. It's heartbreaking. If Knotty were human I'd say he'd grow up to be a drug addict an alcoholic.. suicidal or a career criminal. Since he's not human mom will probably push him out in front of traffic one day. It's remarkable how the aunts give him more love and care than mom and they even follow them down the road. He'd probably be stronger and walk better if mom were there during the day to nourish him with milk from time to time. His little heart just urns for moms love but he's turned away every time. If she doesn't want a baby she needs to stop having sex for heaven sakes. 😕😒😳

[@yvonneconte3040]

Pretty prejudice and stupid comment. "Probably become a drug addict or alcoholic...."

[@daylily-vj8cr]

I absolutely love your video's, and they tell a story. The babies are so cute! thank you for sharing

[@brdlju3]

Another wonderful video series. I feel I must tell you why I enjoy your work so very much. I have Fibromyalgia. When I'm in a bad flare up, like today, I get a moment to forget about the aches and pain and focus on adorable baby monkeys and Stumpy. I love how you narrate just enough for us to understand the circumstances and never invasive. Some folks go overboard with music and such.I have always been fascinated with primates. I enjoy watching your channel the most. I still believe that you should be working for National Geographic, Disney, Animal Planet ect. There are awards that KZbin gives out for exceptional work. I'm going to check into this for you and see what we need to do to get your work noticed. I know this is your hobby, but sometimes hobbies can become a job and you can get paid for doing something you love. My thought is Your beautiful work of art fits that category perfectly. Even if it gives you some extra change to buy more memory for your camera, we all still benefit . Again, thank you allowing us to see your exceptional work and for taking care of these lovely animals.😋🐵🐒

[@kkossor3046]

brdlju3 I'm in the same situation. I have Fibro & a 6 vertebra spinal fusion so I'm in chronic pain. These videos really do help me focus on something other than pain plus they release endorphins (nature's Pain Medication) I too agree that @Arroz Marusico should get some type of an award. I've always loved Primates but have learned so much from his videos alone. I live the Prologues, Epiliogues & the Tags. The videos are beautiful & special areas with music are just perfect! This is my favorite channel!

[@ArrozMarisco360]

Thank you for watching. Your kind words are already good enough incentive for me to carry on !

[@ecomhicks]

I also have spine problems, chronic vertebral osteomyelitis,a disease which leads to bone infection with devastating bone destruction along with type 1 diabetes. I had a bout last year and while healing from neck and back fusions I started researching service capuchins. I found the same therapeutic effect watching these videos, I cannot thank arroz enough and agree and mentioned in another post the same about deserving an award. Im bet arroz probably started doing this as a hobby not for accolades but it seems so many are helped and/ or enjoy them. He has natural talent in so many aspects from videography to monkeyology, llol to telling the story of these monkeys

[@kkossor3046]

Brian Leonard so many of us in the same situation & being helped by this very talented & kind soul. Prayers going up for healing. 🙏

[@kkossor3046]

brdlju3 prayers going up for you & your healing.

[@emmas1082]

I agree, the babysitter bopped him on the butt to get him moving to mom @058 seconds, it was so adorable and so human.😍🥰😃

[@kelleybutler9203]

Knotty’s aunts were about to set mom straight. Poor Knotty that hapless baby but thank goodness for his loving Auntie’s.

[@ggobaby]

Thanks that's so sweet of u to feed them.

[@ggobaby]

He's so precious!

[@suzzie1311]

Beautiful footage and very moving videos, we are so blessed that these sweet babies were even born.....Thank you for sharing

[@donnasoelberg-stricklan7194]

Good video. Thanks!

[@ilovekokothegorillakusasit3471]

I am just so amazed and intrigued that these Mac's they are so different free then when they are in captivity, it's like night and day, the mothers are nurturing and maternal to their babies and the ones in captivity are just so different. This has really opened my eyes. I know that the gorillas are somewhat different in the zoo's captivity then in their own habitat free as well, we are able to follow the families and they will walk right by us and we in fact have never had a problem with any of the silver- backs, or the mothers, they are so gentle and loving and the ones that became familiar with us would accept us more when we would sit down and eat a piece of foliage (leaves) and in captivity they are so ornery but so fun, I have some stories that are so cute but of course I'm not going to elaborate. Again, I love your videos

[@sgdeluxedoc]

No it's not so much just captivity, although it plays a factor, as the type of troop and species of monkey.. look at how badly behaved lousy parents the Ankgor monkeys are, for an example....

[@jglow22]

As I am watching this video, I made an observation. Human breast and nipples are perfectly placed so we can cradle our babies close and we can both just look at each other, talk, smile (isn't it so precious the very first time they smile at you when they are suckling- it chokes me up to think about it).ANYHOW... The way their nipples hang so long and misshapen, and not very attractive, makes me believe that they TOO were created to hold their babies in their arms in the same way we do. They only have 1 baby at a time like we do. I wonder if they just got lazy? The way some bite, pluck hair, throw them to the ground- yes, some humans also abuse thier children, but I'm wondering if something has happened throught the centuries to have changed the maternal instincts for the worse?

[@lindadiaz3268]

It's amazing how the aunties intervene for the babies, it goes to show that their always watching even from a distance😃

[@gloriouse4458]

That’s so nice 👍 of u to think of Mr. Stumpy 🐒💖🌺

[@videosuperhighway7655]

The Dopey segments are quite interesting. You can really see how hard mom is trying to care for her defective baby. She shows lots of love and compassion.

[@elisabethloxley6124]

VIDEOSUPERHIGHWAY . Dopey is not defective in any way. He turns out to be a beautiful boy, intelligent and dexterous. He is just very very little on this video.

[@Ldyrebeln]

I know this is silly but I wonder if bread even keeps in their cheek pouches. The thought just grosses me out. I'm watching him eat that and just gag at the cheek pouch bread. Moist bread dripping with spit! Eeewww. Sorry after all the seriousness of this series I had to say something silly to lighten the mood. Knotty's situation bothers me, but glad to see the other babies are fairing well. Batty is well, he must have been feeling depressed in the last ones. As always my favorite baby is doing excellent and his mama pretty as ever. You're right, there is a beauty in their love for each other.

[@chesterannjubran9557]

Do u know when u will go back to monkey hill my precious little dopey and tenny please keep us informed about them love what u do

[@indescribablelove3846]

Everyday I think about these beautiful perfect animals ❤️

[@WildTigerAngel]

Awe, good luck Knotty. Come back and visit kiddo. I will miss you. 😱❤️🐾❤️

[@jamessimms415]

Love the little vocalizations @ 14:40 of Bossy, Jr. It seems to me that Dopy is much like Baty, a little slow developmentally. God Bless these sweet precious miracles called babies & infants. Lord, look over & protect them, their Mom's, & their relative caregivers

[@munchkin1966]

I am surprised he didn't try and nurse as soon as he went to her..Poor little guy..I guess it just isn't some human females that should not become parents but also some animals

[@PrimateProductions]

Yep I agree

[@karensorensen7641]

But go where? Cali

[@GozerTheGozerian]

It's not uncommon to see abusive macaque mothers, although 95% of the time it's in captivity when they're kept in horrible conditions. Most of the time, the abusive mothers were abused themselves as babies. Knotty is fortunate to have aunts who watch out for him. Many times there's no one to help them, and the babies die. Still, baby monkeys need their moms not only for nourishment, but also for healthy psychological development. Holding onto their mothers and being held gives them a sense of comfort and psychological wellness. Knotty isn't getting that. It will impact him in the long run if he survives.

[@kaypeel4790]

I wonder why the aunts let her abuse knotty. They should beat and bite her and show her how it feels. Gypsy is one that needs to be fixed where she can never have another precious baby to abuse.

[@ArrozMarisco360]

They operate differently :)

[@l.johnperry4072]

But Reddy is a great mum.... She's so AWESOME towards her little Dopey... They are sooooo great together...

[@vickiefrancis586]

Ok thank you!

[@jeffamb]

Every baby monkey that looks like Knotty has died. Tibbin, Bobbin, Cessa, they all looked different than other baby monkeys and all ended up disappearing. Folks, we need to get to the bottom of this. With our powers combined!

[@debbiecorriveau7881]

oooh!! now I'm curious!!!!

[@elainesnyder4268]

They are all beautiful and most of the moms are very caring with all the pulling and climbing the babies do, but maybe just like humans their are some that just don't care about the babies like they should. Your films are very bright and interesting, I look forward to catch up every day on your life with the monkeys.

[@ArrozMarisco360]

Thank you !

[@sarahmarie1391]

I wanted to hold Knotty and help him feel better. Guess its best I don't live there. Seeing the quiet sweet loving times between Reddy and Dopey is so precious. I pray they all are well norished, healthy and happy....especially little Knotty. So sad for him.

[@jeaniabratton7200]

I love dopey he is such a looker but like stumpy to he is a strong monkey mentally notice how he use foot to hold the corn amazing I really enjoy watching these videos!!!!

[@suzannpuppiesareprecious5285]

Mr Marsico, that is so heart breaking, thank God for his Aunties. I believe monkeys act like some people do. I wish he had a more loving mother monkey. God's grace and Blessing always be with you . Your a very kind and loving person to have so much compassion for these beautiful primates and your beautiful viedos shows that. Suzann Sr.

[@PrimateProductions]

You are so right..they are so very similar to people in that their personalities vary greatly...all across the spectrum!

[@suzannpuppiesareprecious5285]

I love watching the monkeys and their personalities, each one is so different from the rest ,Their all unique and very much like people. They even have their own political views, I noticed the leader gets every thing first then the strongest females and the other monkeys get to eat. The leader in the Troop finds the best water supplies and foods for his own troop. He is very protective over the Troop. He demands respect and if he doesn't get it from the younger males, He will shew them away. I remembered you told me that once a while back, when I said I didn't like the big fat ugly male, I would shew him away and feed the mother's and babies. I remembered you said that they need him, and at the forest Park people feed the monkeys so much any way so no body will miss a meal. I then studied the monkeys behavior and you were so right. I want to thank you for sharing your information it really helps a lot. thanks again Gloria.

[@PrimateProductions]

oh no problem..glad I could help and steer you the right way..It is an honor for you to say that and I feel glad that i could help

[@annecorey607]

It so cute awesome to see them happy thank you .

[@lawanatabron5057]

Why must we say goodbye to Knotty?🙄

[@sheilalocklear8646]

I love the way the new mon takes care of the kids

[@emmas1082]

Without a doubt: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. When I first saw Macaque‘s I thought they were interesting and kind of cute-a bit of an acquired taste. However, I now think that they are some of the the most beautiful creatures in the world🌹

[@freedomunltd]

you can see that each of them has a unique little soul..

[@donnab7666]

I started watching your vidros only a few months ago I am going back to catch up on everything. Knotty sure went through so much from his mom. Humans and monkeys are so much alike. It no wonder ee have 93% of their DNA.

[@heatherlongacre4246]

I know this is an old video but he made that 1 nipple look like it was the most amazing object in the history of the world. A boy and his boobie. I wish I would have known about ur channel sooner than I did. I truly enjoy ur video's (the old and the new) and I enjoy rewatching them too. Thank you for ur hard work and dedication.

[@nancygomez1072]

♥️ So adorable! ♥️♥️♥️♥️😇

[@ceeslindelauf3115]

knotty so lovely dopey

[@cynthiacraddock3684]

He can not get comfortable

[@aresgrl]

+Arroz Marisco Oh my goodness! I definitely caught the Aunt prodding Knotty to go to his mother before you even rolled it back and made the comment. I was beginning to get happy for him when I saw him bouncing over to her with all his little baby excitement. But then when I realized that mum was not just not interested, but actually trying to DITCH him, my heart was breaking for him. The true sadness is that poor baby is so accustomed to her treatment of him, that he seems to take it in stride!! His mum reminds me of a young teenage girl who is "boy-crazy" and through her promiscuity ends up pregnant and then everyone else cares for the baby because she is not ready to be a mother. The non-human primate world mimicking the human? Or vice versa? All I can say is thank God for the two Aunties!!

[@suzannpuppiesareprecious5285]

Ms Gina, I saw that too, in poor baby monkey. I had a very hard time watching it. That's one of the first video I saw and it broke my heart. At first I didn't know what was going on. Then read the comments section. I was so angry that nobody helped the baby monkey. I couldn't watch much more.

[@glittercatstudios]

You can calm down. The OP has read drama into a situation in which there is none, I'm afraid. I've seen this soooo often in gorillas and chimpanzees that I immediately recognised it here: The mums can appear to be incredibly horrible, harsh and even heartless whilst weaning their infants, but that's what's happening here. I've seen gorillas actually push their babies' heads off the breast and shove them with great force into their armpits to teach them to wean. They have run away from their babies, knocked their heads out of the way, laid them down in straw and then let them cry when they refused to pick them up, and walked away from them while they were nursing, and all in their ungraceful way of telling them it was time to nurse a little less. I've even seen them take food out of the kid's mouth. It gets excruciating to watch, but that's what's happening, and the only thing happening. Then why do the others not do the same? Because weaning times and durations are different for every single mammal. I've seen gorillas begin to wean babies as early as 1 week old, while others continue to let them wean well past six, when the average age to be fully weaned is five. It depends on the individual primate. And the bit where she doesn't want him to ride, and seems to treat him harshly? Think of it as pushing your kid out of the nest. Again, it's a _normal_ behaviour and nothing mean or dramatic. Gorillas do the same, exact thing and every husbandry manual I've seen and studied say it's completely normal. I've even seen some chimpanzee mums completely lose their infants in the wild and hide behind trees, whilst they listen to the baby cry, howl, scream, whine, bitch, and carry on. She's not being heartless. It's her indelicate way of teaching baby that sometimes she won't be there and he needs to learn to get along without her. She will stay hidden until he finally stops pitying himself and decides to go looking for her. Then when he finds her, she welcomes him with open arms as he runs to her. No, folks, what's bee happening throughout all these videos with Knotty and his mum is completely normal behaviour and thankfully, nothing to get excited over. 😊 HTH. Cheers.

[@NonnasNursery00]

Love 💕

[@dellalowery2833]

Poor baby she acts like she could care less about knottv😢😢😢...Della

[@williambuck8956]

arrow stumpy looks so much better since you started giving him some help I was worried he would not make it but he seems to get better every time we see him

[@ArrozMarisco360]

I think he's just getting fluffier as autumn has arrived !

[@alexmurray69]

What happened to him? I know I’m YEARS behind but unfortunately I just found this amazing channel a few months ago so I’m trying to catch up! Thanks!

[@debhall1952]

Its so funny they don't like bread crust. When food is so hard to come by, they waste crust...

[@ripsofia8155]

baby's look adorable when their "pouch" is full...

[@jcastanza]

So relaxing. Great video once again. If you're an infant monkey, is there any safer place in the whole world than 8:19 ? That stretch through 8:50 something is pretty amazing. Question: is the gray hair shedding and the orange growing in? Vise versa? Or us gray only on older monkeys?

[@ArrozMarisco360]

I don't know as regard to your second question !

[@PrimateProductions]

I think with these guys you get a wide wide range of colors in their hair...I think more so than you see in most types of macaques ( i mean so much variation in one group or troops that are located so closely together also). With these the gray is in the younger ones as well as the older..but I think you can often tell the older monkeys here by looking at their faces and how much they are "weathered" ( in general that is)

[@jcastanza]

Gina Powell interesting. Thanks! Ya I'm curious about the grey since we, humans, go grey as we age, AVS tiger mammals do in some parts (dogs snouts). But if that were true I think you'd see very very grey or grey and white. Then again, maybe not - maybe natural selection may. see to it that monkeys that gray don't survive long.

[@jcastanza]

I reported that last comment as "harassing someone else" which looks like it also removes the comment? Anyway, someone named Tarek had some issues apparently.

[@lakesidesusan6745]

Makes me wonder what kind of Mum Gypsy had. Did she learn bad habits of mothering from her own?

[@tommyleeguy4199]

Knotty was the reason I got hoked

[@karensorensen7641]

Arroz this is one of the many reasons I miss you do. I know I need to move on. Wrong time ofmy life to do so. They need to be truthful. Miss you Arroz. Have a wonderful future. The hill seems to have crumbled for me. Cali

[@ahonestwoman]

Good to see Stumpy again...He is looking really healthy and a little fat...Good for him :)

[@suzannpuppiesareprecious5285]

Mr Marsico, please forgive me for asking? I just very curious are you from Spain. The reason I am asking is your name. I going to watch your wonderful viedos. I enjoyed them so much, when I have a chance to see them. You always have a wonderful story of the monkeys. I noticed that your Photography is beautifully clear and concise visibility also very close up amazing professionally done. perfectly clear photography.

[@suzannpuppiesareprecious5285]

Bumblebee, Thank you so much for taking your time to answer my question. God bless you always, Thank you again you're very sweet.

[@ArrozMarisco360]

NOT at all. I love South America so much that I almost spent all my vacations backpacking there. I particularly enjoy Peruvian cuisines and ceviche mixto alongside with marisco fritos is my all time favourite. But the user name ceviche mix has been taken so I use my next favourite dish for it :) I'm from the UK originally as Bumble Bee mentioned.

[@kkossor3046]

Arroz Marisco I had wondered myself where you were from & I guessed the UK because you say Mum & in one video you said the Mum was posche as she carried her baby on her side like a purse. LOL Thank you for clearing that up & @Bumble Bee is a sweetheart!

[@gloriouse4458]

Arroz Marisco thank u for all the hard work u put into the videos we all appreciate it n u 😁your very clear n concise not like other videos you're trying to understand what they're trying to convey 👌😻🐶🐾🐒🌺🌸

[@GozerTheGozerian]

Arroz Chaufa is my favorite Peruvian dish, it's an amazing fusion of Peruvian and Chinese cuisine.

[@elikinder1506]

Baby can’t set still.

[@karensorensen7641]

Love & bless Knotty. He trtied. karen. CALI

[@WildTigerAngel]

I love Dopey and Pucky ❤️🐾❤️🐾❤️🐾❤️😃👍😉 How is Milo doing?

[@cindilenzi9182]

Goodbye..............🤕🐒❤

[@emmas1082]

Not all moms were created equal it seems, just like with humans. There are many humans who have endured mother’s who were neglectful, as well as physically and mentally abusive.

[@s.a.morris8625]

...BATY.....YEAH....!!!!!....was worried...

[@annoberhausen5202]

How old is Dopey now. Wasn't he born in September. If so he is 3 months. He still looks and act like he's a few weeks old. Mickey is doing better then Dopey. I'm really getting worried. When will you give us a update. I hope it's before Christmas.

[@Seliduck11]

Hi, I am new to your channel and I love it!! I have a question for anyone that might know...how did Stumpy lose his/her arm? I'm sorry, I can't remember if it's a he or she. Anyway thank you in advance. Oh and little Knotty is so very handsome! I took a screenshot at that time you paused & noted how handsome he is. I'll use it for my wallpaper, and no other reason. Thnx!!

[@ArrozMarisco360]

Check on " Stumpy's play list " It probably was case of animal abuse.

[@jamesdungan4426]

At 20.00 min why do they only eat the whit part of the bread. Could it be they equate the dark outside as the skin of fruit.

[@ArrozMarisco360]

I don't know but they'd consume everything when they are really hungry so my guess is they already had a fair bit to eat beforehand and now could afford to be choosy. For me I often prefer the crust though !

[@maryranch5329]

😁💖🐒👍Baty😘

[@alliebagz4936]

dopey is awful clumsy.... even for a baby... he walks by holding onto the cement for dear life... I really think he may have a muscle growth problem... he doesn't seems to be getting any stronger at all.... poor dopey... such a sweet little guy!!!!!

[@ArrozMarisco360]

He's getting stronger and walks better, just wait !

[@breAnnasmama]

Me as a child ... i know that pain . Hasn’t ever ended over the last40 years and it’s something that hurts daily never having the love of either of my parents. Sad to see it in any living Thing... that monkey clearly tried to get her attention and imitated happy play attempts and tried to bond ... uhh. ... sad. But while I know first hand , the pain of abuse , suffering , abandonment And neglect , I also know that it takes a hurting person or being to cause that kind of hurt in another ... and as we don’t know her history , what she went through as a child or even upon getting pregnant , as she could’ve even been forced to mate against her will .. this has been noted in a few Examples among macaques , where the mothers refused their babies , associating them with the trauma , as keep in mind , the female is supposed to have the choice among mates or to mate at all ... and it could very well be something else but she’s obv. not bonded with knotty and that stems from her being too inexperienced or her ranking perhaps had been so low and she’d never been shown what parenting requires or love requires .. but on the chance that she’d had a troubled pregnancy that was perhaps non consensual ? Although I don’t think that is what actually occurred... I’m merely throwing it out there as a very small odd percentage option that COULD be possible to indicate her behavior .. as studies have shown among those who were rather forced into mating against their will , that they rejected their babies or even attempted to mutilate or kill them or abandon them fully outright as soon as they were born ... for whatever reason , she’s hurting too , despite how cruel it is toward the child ... perhaps she felt put off bc others took to rearing him and having a say in things that in her inexperience, she lacked the ability to connect to simply being of help to the baby and even , her as well. She could feel threatened by a higher ranking member that has in her mind taken over knotty , she also may not be able To provide nutrients and couldve distanced herself early on as a means of separating her bond and emotions from that of the likely failing health snd well being that would’ve often taken place if others didn’t step up and have a hand in caring for the baby ... we can’t fully know what creates these painful things but can know flat out that whatever did came from a place of pain as well. ... if a mother isn’t shown the balance and love and structure in her own upbringing, she will not often be able to provide any better for her own baby. This is what the terminology of breaking the cycle is all about ...its very difficult to break cycles of abuse and hurt and suffering ... but it takes one being involved being given the love or what they have lacked in order to recognize how to give it to the next .. otherwise patterns and imbalance continue on ..

[@munchkin1966]

Just wondering at 4:50 is that Dopey and his mom? What happened to her right nipple? The left is real long but the right seems to only stick out a tiny bit

[@ArrozMarisco360]

Yes its them indeed. It seems that it's a result of a baby's preference - just like our left/right handedness.

[@munchkin1966]

Oh ok cause this is the 1st time i have ever seen that on a mom

[@PrimateProductions]

It happens in humans as well sometimes...whichever nipple the infant tends to favor the most (and they usually do favor one over the other for some reason)tends to elongate more...whereas the less used one will stay very small. There have been some studies as to why they tend to prefer one side or the other but I do not recall any well defined conclusions that sounded likely

[@dawnschneider4688]

this is Sept picture where are the videos of dopy being weaned also that is going to be hard to watch

[@citizenjane2087]

how do mean he says goodbye is he dead?

[@annalemsma3558]

Dopey and his mama are sooooo beautiful and caring. Mama's so loving and patient trying to make him take a little step extra...so beautiful you would wish every kid has a such a mother/parent... by the way, i often have seen the babies and the aunts of Knotty nibbling on an arm or ear, do you know why the do that?

[@AcSHuNtv]

Discipline. That's how Elder Monkey's discipline young babies. It's kind of like a "Slap on the wrist" type of thing.

[@PrimateProductions]

NO I am not so sure she means that ..the kind of nibbling that we have been seeing in this series (and correct me if I am wrong Anna Lemsma) is not nibbling that is in reprimand or that is done in such a way that is even uncomfortable or unpleasant to the infant....it has been a very gentle nibble and infant rarely even responds to it and definitely does not react in the way that they do when they are disciplined. Trust me, when mom is disciplining them you know it cause they almost always REACT and react in a way that everyone knows that they just got scolded!! The nibbling that we have seen here is actually very much the opposite...it is done very gently and seems to be just a little bit of affectionate touching...much like one might rub a childs skin or head or hair...In my experience Anna that is more like what they are doing....grooming with the mouth comes so naturally to them and grooming is such a positive, social, and even affectionate behavior and the nibbling seems to originate from that type of behavior! Macaque moms will very often mock bite (their most common form of discipline especially for infants around this age) and will even actually bite (though usually never enough to "leave a mark" unless they are being abusive or it is accidental) an infant to discipline...even more common is the "look" that macaque mothers will give them..it is hard to explain but if you see it you will know it...often when a macaque youngster is attempting to suckle mom will pull away hard from the infant so that the nipple is removed (or she tries to remove it) from their mouth and she will lean back, make certain that she makes eye contact with the baby/juvenile (you will see her lean down, or back and stare at him), and give them a very stern look which can be accompanied by an open mouth stare or vocal that the baby will recognize as mom not happy!! Of course they also slap, pinch, push, pull, drag and whatever else is necessary to let that young one know that she is not pleased with whatever behavior it is!! I have always found (and love the research I and others have done) behaviors between mom and infant/juvenile primates (not just negative interactions but all interactions) absolutely fascinating....in some ways it is so very similar to humans..and in some ways it has always just baffled my mind!

[@angiejones6718]

Amen non

[@janelayne7644]

Where did Knotty go?

[@carriehunt9741]

did Knotty die?

[@ArrozMarisco360]

NO I'd cry :(

[@ggobaby]

no he's in here ;)

[@PrimateProductions]

I think everyone keeps asking similar questions to that because of the "goodbye" in the title..

[@geansanders7024]

I think I had Knotty and Tiny mixed up sorry knotty was in much better shape than tiny Poor Babies

[@ArrozMarisco360]

You must have :)

[@samasiaskipperable]

Was the disabled one, the one you saved a good treat for, that way from birth?🍑🐒🙈🙉🐵🐶❓❓

[@alliebagz4936]

are you going somewhere????? your not leaving us are you???? please tell me your not going anywhre??!!!

[@TheSpriceangel]

That is a good thing my sister !!

[@ArrozMarisco360]

NO I'm not going anywhere - don't worry there 'll still be updates for months ( possibly years ) to come !

[@ecomhicks]

Arozz was speaking for knotty when saying "goodbye" in the title.

[@PrimateProductions]

OK I missed something or am confusing this with another video..why is he speaking for knotty and saying goodbye...why is knotty saying goodbye I guess is what I am asking..what did I miss

[@ArrozMarisco360]

Gina Powell You hadn't missed anything it's just Knotty saying goodbye coz he's leaving from the scene and disappearing with his aunts and mum !

[@dawnschneider4688]

They look so frail. And wobbles

[@PrimateProductions]

Baby Rhesus macaques (and some types of long tailed macaques) infants to me always look very frail, tiny and skinny when they are very young...it doesnt seem that you ever see a "plump"one!! so I agree wholeheartedly! (of course they are not frail, these guys all appear very healthy and they appear this way even when they are extremely healthy...it is just the way they are built) : )

[@autumn7ful]

A lot of these moms probably love their babies but they’re not necessarily mother material. Once they were able to get pregnant your life is pretty much over because they don’t have a choice when they get pregnant and that’s why a lot of these mothers are old and an able to care for their children and get really nasty

[@karensorensen7641]

Where is Knotty going. Cali

[@citizenjane2087]

No really is he dead? or has he run off to join the circus, wouldn't blame him if he did.

[@kau2303]

買部靚啲嘅機先影啦，睇到眼都花

[@bradenoconnor2987]

Dsmn Dipey was a cute baby! What happened? Lol poor guy is looking like Taggy. Sucks for him. Been better I'd it had been Grandee or Cocky. Lol

[@bluesow]

Are these different types of Macaques? Some look long-tailed and some look like stump-tails. They're all beautiful,though!

[@glittercatstudios]

I _think_ they're all red-faced macaques, but the males don't have red faces, and the younger ones have shorter tails.

[@ArrozMarisco360]

There are also some hybrids here between M. mulatta & M. fascularis here - yes, but they are mostly the former :)

[@glittercatstudios]

+Arroz Marisco Did you mean M. Fascicularis? Were they some of the younger ones?

[@ArrozMarisco360]

Carla René sometimes my bluetooth keyboard misses a few letters occasionally :) Probably so, but they are not as clear-cut as some lower down the road.

[@glittercatstudios]

+Arroz Marisco Argh! For some reason for the last 2 days, it tells me I got a reply but when I click on reply, the original comment isn't in the app, which is why I'm responding to this comment. I will bet you *anything* we have the same piece of crap bluetooth keyboard! When I got this Samsung Galaxy Tab A, I just went ahead, knowing I have severe SLE, and got a keyboard and cases for it, but the darned thing hasn't worked right since I got it. The O and N are constantly sticking, and every time I click the @ for Twitter, the " symbol comes out. And if I want to hashtag something I have to hit the \ key! Lol, it's ridiculous. You need a short signal weather code book just to use it! 😆😅😃😂

[@virginiacousens2941]

Its werid how the mother changed thst fast with her attude with her baby

[@virginiacousens2941]

How mom changed her attiude

[@williambuck8956]

you can send knotty to live with me he'll have a fat belly and live like a king

[@ArrozMarisco360]

You have to carry a milk bottle on your chest for a while to do that !

[@PrimateProductions]

lol

[@ilovekokothegorillakusasit3471]

You can bottle feed

[@elikinder1506]

Looks like a pacifier for the baby. Got to have nipple in it’s mouth.

[@neffdigitydog]

Where is Knotty going?

[@ArrozMarisco360]

I don't know, probably back into the forest .

[@karengrimmett6441]

Arroz Marisco I'm New in the world of these monkeys. What is the lifespan on these monkeys? Is this group more family oriented? We have aunts & grannies taking care (babysitting) she of babies in this group. In the videos of the long tail Macaques I haven't seen elders babysitting & caring for the baby's?

[@bellesmom2012]

Poor knotty. WHY!? Is he (knotty) of a lower rank? What is with his mom, she is the worst mom! He is so hungry and she doesn't have much milk from the way he goes from nipple to nipple. She won't make anymore either if she doesn't let him nurse more often if it works the same as in us. How old is knotty? I ask because he backside looks like it does right after they give birth. All the other moms are so loving....even the Aunts.

[@ArrozMarisco360]

Knotty is born in June so he would be about 10 weeks old in that episode.

[@peanutannie4879]

Arroz Marisco Arroz have you ever thought about when a baby is first born to put its name and the name of the mother and the date the baby was born on the first video you make of them. That would make it so much easier for newcomers to find out who they are, along with how old the baby is. Just a thought .

[@samasiaskipperable]

This is good but honestly I think it was better without music 🎶 I like music but for me it seems to take away the personal sphere you bring us into🐒🙊🙉🙈🐵We too are grateful and thank you🍑