The Run In! | Fan Debate 2024

Welcome back to the Fan Debate, brought to you by SkyBet, with Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher alongside some of the biggest fan channels in England.
This week we begin with the fallout from the international break as Gareth Southgate England side prepare for Euro 2024.
The title race hots up at the weekend with champions Manchester City hosting leaders Arsenal at the Etihad in one of the biggest games of the season. Can Mikel Arteta get one over his mentor Pep Guardiola? And can Jurgen Klopp’s Liverpool take advantage to potentially go top of the table?
Aston Villa, Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester United are all in the hunt for Champions League football, and we’re joined by fans from each club as they make their case for who will secure European’s top footballing competition spot.
David Moyes’ West Ham still see themselves in the Europa League and currently sit in the final European spot, so is the criticism he has faced as manager justified?
Finally, Nottingham Forest have just appealed their four-point deduction which has seen them drop into the relegation spots with Everton and Luton Town above them. How big of an impact will the financial regulators have in the final stages of the season?
We’ll be back next week where Gary and Jamie answer the panels questions.
CHAPTERING
00:00 Promo
00:37 Introduction
01:00 International break chat
02:20 The Anfield Wrap’s Abigail Rudkin
05:30 Arsenal Vision Podcast’s Clive
11:02 Jay Motty from Stretford Paddock
14:58 Oliver Lowe from City Xtra
17:29 Man City vs Arsenal
36:25 Tottenham Fighting Cock’s Alex
45:55 Luke Robinson from UTV Podcast
55:09 Liv Elliott from Blowing Bubbles Fanzine
1:02:25 Greg from Forza Garibaldi
01:22:59 Finley from Oak Road Hatter
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[@mintygreen8760]

Arsenal supporter here - for the love of god please keep Clive on

[@Rudi_Mentary723]

Man United supporter. For the love of God..yes..keep Clive on. Such a gent. A complete opposite of that Robbie.

[@kudoskallum]

He says Trippier weirdly though…

[@Luke-ym9ys]

Speaks very well. Calm, composed and knows what's he's talking about

[@DanielS10291]

Where is DON ROBBIE

[@pauljones8218]

clive talks well for a arsenal supporter not often you can find one that can talk proper dribble comes to mind

[@zaid22287]

Clive is a great arsenal rep

[@asid28]

Waffler. Chris Eubank vibes. Takes him twice as long to make a point😵‍💫

[@darthpepe2994]

A breath of fresh air from Ty in the earlier episodes. I remember that I actually respect Arsenal

[@darrenpearson8451]

Lovely and calm but talks absolute rubbish.

[@YouLoveItBiatch]

Assured arsenal fans rattle some 😭 god help you in these coming weeks!

[@raidenafc6576]

@@darrenpearson8451if someone speaks well they talk rubbish?

[@user-rx8no1zt4c]

Clive is so softly spoken and articulates his points well…great lad!

[@Cbart23]

Where’s that big bald city lad? The one who’s not an accountant. Not an attorney… but he’s on the 115 FC team sheet.

[@calholden9627]

Rent free in your head it looks like😅

[@garrettkelly5546]

😂😂😂

[@garrettkelly5546]

Is he not Haaland's replacement? 😂😂

[@Erysx12]

“He’s part of the team”😭😂

[@stcr1980]

Didn't ask him to come back because he's an absolute womble

[@cbc899]

Anyone else delighted Robbie from AFTV isn't on his anymore lately? New Arsenal supporter is much better

[@TheMarmara2023]

Make sure Robbie sees this and it crushes him

[@Bantod]

Nah some of us miss Robbie though. More entertaining

[@pezushka]

Behave, he's called Don Robbie for reason, Lives only there under his consent.

[@joshbracken5450]

Yep. Clive can speak eloquently and get his point across. Robbie is dreadful to listen to.

[@kingEbs2023]

Nope we love Don Robbie.😂

[@tomstrainsandbuses6611]

Clive is such a joy to have on this he's a top lad 👍

[@jigsawkid95]

npc

[@makeshift112000]

he's deluded & annoying like Chris Eubank. like's to think of himself as a softly spoken coach.

[@stevekettel188]

@@makeshift112000he is softly spoken, and he is a coach. What’s your point?

[@makeshift112000]

@@stevekettel188 My point is he's not nearly as intelligent as he's trying to come across & he's a "coach" in the same way a guy taking the school football team is a coach, not at this level.

[@tonysoprano2912]

Greg mitchell doing the forest family proud 👏 the Villa & Arsenal fans came across well too

[@jamestrant4409]

Clive is so well spoken 👏 he's like a pundit

[@ponteterrier4789]

could put a glass eye to sleep jesus

[@virupakshawalla5734]

Like a pundit 😢. Like clueless Carragher 😂. Don't be do rude 😮

[@seanOG12]

​@@ponteterrier4789Troopz and Ty videos are ready and available if you want to wake up 😂

[@taylormade2826]

That Clive is a proper arsenal eubank

[@DamienIRL]

Thank you for getting rid of members of AFTV!

[@RT-far-T]

The way Carragher disses Neville, as though Gary's career wasn't one hundred times better in every way!!

[@allelaw7015]

You think AFTV members are bothered? Of course, they do not like anyone standing in their biased faces and telling them the truth and the stupid conclusions they make about players.

[@MrBaronCabron]

​​@@RT-far-Tit's called punching up...Neville hardly punches down

[@NavyaSagittarius]

@@RT-far-Tbetter career how? England didn't have any right backs so Neville got in the team because there was literally no one. Lets not pretend he was prime Cafu lol

[@JohnnySins___]

@@NavyaSagittariusno one’s pretending he was like prime Cafu but he was better than Carragher and his accolades are second to none👍🏻

[@EatMyShorts12]

Clive speaks so well really love hearing what he has to say.

[@t0mes]

I'm glad Clive set the record straight on Ben White. Southgate mismanaged this and now he's on his hands and knees begging for him to come back.

[@WeeleyTube]

We have too many right backs, especially ones that are actually right backs and not converted cbs. Hed be exposed with England's system.

[@e4superfly]

​@WeeleyTube you obviously don't watch him

[@cjc9827]

Nobody is begging for Ben White 😂 bit of good form this season in a good team and acting like he’s world class, do me a favour. 4th choice right back for England.

[@miniman2132]

@@cjc9827which 4 are infront of him in your opinion?

[@cjc9827]

@@miniman2132 3 (as James isn’t fit) - Walker, Trent, Tripper. Trippier has had a bad run of form which is why he’s 3rd but he’s been great for England and very good for a few years now. Walker is so clearly 1st choice though, nobody really gets near it if he’s fit.

[@okankaleli6175]

Clive is an absolute legend. I can listen to him talk all day! … great Arsenal rep! 👌🏼

[@masegoamogetswe60]

Clive is perfect perfect perfect to represent arsenal prefect.. Can't stress this enough

[@MajinPorunga]

Never understood the Robbie hype. Just looks like and talks like an oaf.

[@cormacpro]

Footballisticly is a great word

[@1Lance1984]

Bring back Ty 😂😂😂

[@bmeshack1021]

@@MajinPorunga Robbie>>>>> Example: Just because Cara and Gary talk trash like normal football fans sometimes, doesn't mean they ain't great pundits.

[@WizzWins]

Say perfect again

[@Ujio1140]

Ben White has been part of the best defence in the Premier League this season. He's been fantastic defensively and going forward. He plays every week with Saka on the right side. If Southgate was choosing according to form and merit, he should be starting for England, no doubt about that. Carragher saying that he is behind James and Trippier is just ludicrous.

[@RossCo.H]

He is FFS he's more interested in sunbeds

[@henrybaringfowler2061]

Init bro trippier and James is a joke

[@AshHalls]

Apart from walker is better

[@billbaggiotmua372]

For all the Hype over TAA , ben white has the same amount of assists and goals (white isn't on freekicks or corners), and ben white has 2 goals and 2 assists more than kyle walker. White definitely has better defensive stats than trent, and he's probably similar to walker. On the pitch Ben white has been better than both of these players allround, i agree.

[@niklaswikstrom78]

His "problem" is that he doesn't offer any of the extremes that the others have. Kyle Walker's pace, TAA and Trippier's deliveries and offensive qualities. He's just a very good full back

[@197Jack197]

Clive is a fantastic rep for Arsenal, talks well, what a gent

[@adamoumchiche5512]

Exactly what I was thinking!! Much better rep

[@SteveAustin-zv1nn]

"Keiron Trippy-eh" 🤣

[@miniman2132]

@@SteveAustin-zv1nn focus a bit more on what people say, not how they said it. You might learn something, you know?

[@SteveAustin-zv1nn]

@@miniman2132 Not learn how to pronounce people’s names apparently. Also, if someone still doesn’t know how to pronounce someone’s name after hearing it for 10 years, then how am I supposed to take anything else he says seriously?

[@miniman2132]

@@SteveAustin-zv1nn because you’re a troll with nothing interesting to add to the conversation.

[@joekirui6110]

Jamie sounds like he hasn't watched Ben White this season at all

[@peawackpurps5004]

😂😂🤣behave will ye Ben white doesn’t get anywhere near that England squad

[@kehindeonibada4822]

@@peawackpurps5004Gareth said he wanted to call him up and Ben rejected so your objectively wrong

[@MrEwragg]

@@kehindeonibada4822I think if we are talking about first team and not just being on the plane he’s probably correct. He’s 3rd or 4th pick at RB. He’d have probably only made the plane because Southgate loves to pick a squad full of RBs

[@antonyrainsbury4333]

3rd or 4th based totally on name, not displays this season. Walker getting older and not as great as he was, same for tripper, was good last season. Trent isn't a better right back than White, but better creatively. White can overlap, invert and cover at centre back. White walks into this squad and should be 1st choice RB.

[@MrEwragg]

@@antonyrainsbury4333 that’s ludicrous. You’re purely looking at Walker based on googling his age. Yes he’s getting older (that’s how time works) but he’s not showing it. He’s still one of the quickest players in the league and easily clear of White. Trent is also clear by a margin. His defensive game has improved dramatically this season and he’s looked solid but going forward he is miles ahead. Trippier is showing his age a tad. Last season he’d have also been clear of White but this season I’d probably say White is just ahead. Same for Reece James really. He’s a much better player but injuries bring him down. I can easily see how you could make him 3rd choice. 1st choice is crazy to me. He would play in either that Man City or Liverpool teams (or the Arsenal team if you had all your players fit)

[@ashlfc4eva]

that’s 4 wins in 26 against top 10 opposition for Gareth Southgate…. His track record at comps is due to playing teams you should be beating! Having favourable draws.. 4 wins in 26 against top 10 teams says it all

[@KR-jg7gc]

Seems like something Stephen Howson has been saying... and it's all facts!! 😂

[@GH0ZT77]

On the flip side of that though, only one team in top 10 FIFA rankings has a better record than us against the top 10 and that’s France. So swings and roundabouts ain’t it 😂.

[@joshuahudson5250]

Jamie saying ben white wont play CB for england because he doesnt for his club but 15 seconds earlier stated trent will play in the middle when hes never done it for liverpool, make it make sense pal😂

[@virupakshawalla5734]

Ees a Scouser inn ee.

[@GoonerBoiz]

It means more!

[@khayanyathi7114]

He said he’s too similar to England’s number one defender…John Stones. Learn to listen

[@joshuahudson5250]

@khayanyathi7114 Yes, but he also said that because he doesn't play there for his club, learn to listen to more than one thing.

[@khayanyathi7114]

@@joshuahudson5250 learn to apply context, it’s important with the English language. I would say you know the main point he was making, but clearly you don’t.

[@larrysanders27]

Clive is way too level headed and intelligent to represent Arsenal on this show, bring back Ty and sit him next to Buvey

[@miniman2132]

You’ve got a point. Clive is the perspective football fans need, Ty is the perspective these shows deserve.

[@WreggGallace]

Felt like they kept trying to get him involved in the daft conversations that Ty would get drawn into and Clive was having none of it 😂

[@TheLifeOfFredPodcast]

Clive is absolutely wonderful, knowledgeable and calm . Not screaming madness. Also. the inhales of the bloke 👏

[@ohheyitskevinc]

It’s Motty! Not sure which I’m more surprised by - Jay being on or Carragher showing his face post-FA Cup and Abdo.

[@garypring2658]

why would carragher not show his face it's his job would you say that if that was neville

[@adamalexander6058]

Your biggest match of the season left. Was our least important thats why. Its was annoying that day yes but nothing to be annoyed about for longer than a day

[@haywoodchablowmee2372]

@@adamalexander6058than why was he gone for over two weeks

[@johnmichaelson9173]

And you seriously think he didn't come into work because Liverpool lost a FA tie? Mate, get a grip.@@haywoodchablowmee2372

[@PyrexPiccaso]

@@haywoodchablowmee2372international break???

[@NffcR]

Forest 11 that won the playoff final... Samba (left that summer) Spence (loan) Worrall, Cook, McKenna, Colback (midfielder playing out of position) Yates, Garner (Loan), Johnson, Zinckernagel (Loan), Davis (Loan) We also lost Grabban, Figueiredo and Lolley that summer. Our subs bench on the opening day at Newcastle had Lyle Taylor, Mighten and Cafu on it. Two currently play in League one, the other doesn't always get a game for Rotherham We had to have a massive rebuild just to have a squad. We also had the most injuries in the league last season that meant we had to then make further signings... Henderson for Navas for example

[@Rzarecteh]

Don’t waste your time mate, if they can’t be arsed to understand it at this point they never will

[@goofysmp]

It’s no excuse. You didn’t need to fill your team with loans. You could’ve kept building your squad in the championship until you were ready to be promoted. It also doesn’t justify giving Lingard 200k a week, signing multiple players in the same position, signing players like Origi on loan when you don’t need them. Reyna has only played 3 games because you’re biggest signing Gibbs-White occupies that position. You’re defending and owner that’s so evidently known the rules and broken them anyway. What you’re saying is totally right. They had to invest heavy but they had to do it smart too and they didn’t. The recruitment was reckless and that’s putting it nice

[@futurememories1660]

You make it sound like you were in that position due to some external influence. It was all your own (mis)management. When Forest go down, the general feeling will be that it's good riddance for the Premier League to make space for a proper team from the Championship.

[@phil-anthrophist3960]

There is no excuse for cheating,, what are you actually gaining by doing that?? 1 extra year in the prem?? It's not worth it,, now you're looking at relegation anyway,, if your club couldn't stay up without breaking the rules it means you shouldn't be in the league,, you should take the relegation on the chin and move on!! Once August/September comes the previous season is forgotten,, but now it'll be remembered as the season you cheated just to stay up for 1 extra season,, that's a ridiculous reason to cheat,, atleast do it like city and get trophies out of it

[@dontchatbreeze]

Whats your point. Surely thats your clubs fault for mismanagement, they should be aware of the financial rules of the premier league, no one is forcing you to sell, you just got promoted so have massive financial gain

[@blakem2667]

Clive!! The voice of reason

[@5football56]

Well done Greg representing Forest fans. I think Gary and Carra need to let you speak your point at times instead of taking over! I see why neither Gary or Carra don't understand the situation any of the lower clubs are in, and breaking PSR rules. Because there clubs are those that are protected from it. Shame really

[@NffcR]

Neville saying why employ Clattenburg to explain a decision they already know the answer too when they have Mike Dean explaining decisions on commentary now....

[@JimmySands-pd7xt]

Completely different how can you compare an ex-referee explaining decisions to millions of viewers to a referee explaining decisions to a group of players

[@NffcR]

@@JimmySands-pd7xt For a start, Carragher n Neville or whoever else is on commentary can tell the viewers, and the average viewer knows enough about the game to make their own mind up anyway

[@AndrewClements-hu2eo]

Clattenburg say is roll for the high up to explain the rules as they no more with Greek football and want to explain how the Premier league works

[@drSvensen]

Pretty sure Gary isn't the one making those kind of decisions.

[@lukemccabe340]

@@NffcRmaybe because carragher and Neville weren’t referees mate. All the ex footballers have their biases

[@chrismeakin7830]

It would be great if the mainstream pundits actually knew what they were talking about. Forest had no squad after promotion. They also moved 40 players out over the next 2yrs, but no mention of that. The breach only happened because we didn’t take 17.5m less for Johnson, which only took 2 months longer. If it was a level playing field, instead of allowing 2yrs at the championship reduced rate of allowances, Forest were way inside the limit! It really should be the same for all clubs, because teams without the parachute payments have no chance.

[@karanvinod2593]

Spot on, mate. Why should Forest settle for less when all they have to do is wait another two months and Spurs came in offering nearly 20mil more for Johnson. If anything, it’s the sustainability rules that’s a joke.

[@wr2899]

If my aunt had bollocks she’d be my uncle… if the rules were different we wouldn’t have cheated…😂

[@mduzungu3146]

Clive is God's gift to football punditry. I've listened to him for 5 years on the Arsenal Vision Podcast and he still amazes me every single time. So articulate, well-spoken and his football knowledge and tactical insight is top. It's about time he gets some airtime.

[@khadijamohamed9175]

Ben White is better than Trippier and James. He is dependable, reliable and apart from a better final ball not much difference.

[@joekirui6110]

Possibly Arsenal's most underrated player this season.

[@eddiejohnson2201]

No hes not hes a centre back playing right back because hes not good enough to play centre back and arsenal dont have any other options.

[@Kzeditzzz387]

Yeah stop he is good rb

[@VR46314]

He was poor around the winter time and cost arsenal points , he also looks like Madge from Benidorm

[@KarenandKats]

@@eddiejohnson2201 He's been playing RB since he was a teenager. He was developed to play both RB and CB and Bielsa added DM to his game when Kalvin was injured.

[@captainhowdy9845]

Redknapp saying that Forest, when they came up, 'bought 4 goalkeepers' is just stupid. They lost their main keeper to Lens, signed Wayne Hennessey on a permanent contract and Dean Henderson on loan. When Henderson got injured, they signed Keylor Navas on loan.

[@rajbos29]

they spent 10 minutes trying to downplay ben white and then 10 minutes again trying to overhype mainoo. Thats why very few English prospects grow because as soon as he has one or two bad games they will start dismissing him

[@MainooFan]

Not really, White’s in the most stacked position on the pitch for England, Mainoo’s in the most bare position for England with far less competition. When players refuse to play for England (For whatever reason) you’ve got to understand that a lot find it disrespectful, hence the “Downplaying”

[@uduakise8312]

​@@MainooFan Whose better than white? you have an elderly mancity veteran on his last legs, trent and a poor trippier on his last legs as well. Ben white should be playing for England on merit.

[@mezzala1014]

@@uduakise8312So White is the best English RB?? 😂

[@MainooFan]

@@uduakise8312I think this season, Ben White’s been the second best English Right Back. But, that’s my opinion, not Gareth Southgate’s. Southgate still gives Lewis Dunk minutes ahead of Branthwaite, he clearly values experience & performances in an England Shirt.

[@Totas2406]

@@mezzala1014He’s definitely up there yes. Downplaying that or finding that funny tells me someone doesn’t watch Arsenal games all that frequently or at all

[@kickbackrelax365]

This Arsenal lad is miles better then the other guy

[@CglxDowson]

Much better people on this now. Getting rid of the AFTV and Adam Mckenna melts

[@CimbomFanFiction]

🤣 its true. It is a bit weird not everyone gets a chance to talk. Theres def a few guys just sitting there like can we talk about sheffield or burnley now? Do they talk to them off air? Lol whats the point

[@virupakshawalla5734]

Extras. Payed a fiver and a packet of crisps​@@CimbomFanFiction

[@jaketeall9665]

@@CimbomFanFictionthey talk to everyone over the course of 2 videos. This is part one

[@Destiny51090]

Clive is Better than Robbie breathing like a dragon in the studio

[@rebelcitylad4422]

Forest spent the same amount of money in their first season back in the PL as Burnley have this season but they have a £105m threshold where as Forest only could spend £61m

[@JimmySands-pd7xt]

Not sure what your point is… doesn’t matter what the rules are for other clubs, you have to stick to the rules for your club

[@Rzarecteh]

@@JimmySands-pd7xt Doesn't mean you can't call out the BS rules for what they are. I accept that Forest have broken the rules & accept our punishment, but the rules are a complete disgrace geared towards 6 clubs.

[@rebelcitylad4422]

@@JimmySands-pd7xt the point is that it should be a level playing field, Burnley are a promoted team just as we was last season and it also shows that we needed to spend that kind of money because look where Burnley are after spending £130m and we came up with a far less established and depleted team

[@Pjj878]

​@@rebelcitylad4422but its not a level playing field

[@nathanthompson8652]

Why not punish teams with transfer embargoes rather than points deductions? Easier to manage and has a similar effect on the team, possibly even more punishing. Avoids any asterixes against teams and uncertainty around how many points a team has

[@robbiehumphreys8197]

Clive is the man.

[@as8603]

The never ending coutinho fee 🤣

[@AM2K2]

The never ending 'you bought VVD and Alisson' 🤣

[@avenellroad]

Clive always top. Right balance between emotion and tactical insights✨👌👍👍👍👍

[@brendanosullivan7002]

Stick with Ten Hag

[@KratosIsSick]

at least 1 season. hopefully learns from mistakes.

[@Fmfcg]

Erik GOAT Hag

[@Peter-mw3wj]

We should only stick with him if we play like we did against Liverpool for the rest of the season and get results. We’ve been terrible this season and he hasn’t been good enough and our style of play is a massive red flag for next season.

[@DonLonghorn.]

Southgate IN! With Potter as assistent... Egghead Out ! 7 Hag out!. 90 mill Anthony, 70 mill Mount Hag OUT !!!

[@DonLonghorn.]

Egghead and MU have been Lucky FC this season. They should have less points. 90 mill Anthony Hags player out !

[@3MonkeysOnAUnicycle]

Loved hearing Clive for The Arsenal talk

[@viperskyboy]

Clive bossing it as per usual

[@alexbailey7787]

Carragher has been found I guess he has finally recovered from losing to Utd 😄 plus nice to see Jay rep us for a change… I love Macca but nice to see someone else from SP

[@johnmichaelson9173]

All the people I know couldn't careless about the FA cup If Liverpool lose the league game they'll be pissed off but the domestic cups are nothing other than a day out.

[@garypring2658]

could have been on holiday somthing you cant afford other then a day trip to north wales

[@alexbailey7787]

@@garypring2658 how convenient…

[@alexbailey7787]

@@johnmichaelson9173 that’s just a bad thing cause a trophy is a trophy… if Utd get into UCL next season and manage to win fa cup… and Liverpool come 2nd or 3rd and win only EFL cup they have had the same season…

[@johnmichaelson9173]

@@alexbailey7787 It's obvious Liverpool's priorities lie elsewhere. They'd played on Man City March 10th. Thursday 14th Sparta & 17th was the FA cup game. The FA cup, extra time, it's a pain in the arse.

[@Pumbz]

Just because you CAN cheat doesn't mean you should do it. Blame the owners and the fans that says its OK.

[@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings]

- Lpool,Utd Owners conspired S.League - Lpool,Utd not considered Cheats - City Owners collapsed S.League - City are considered Cheats?🤣

[@TheBingbong2002]

@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeingsUtd and Liverpool owners were slaughtered for it at the time and it’s still held over there heads and it’s not cheating to try form another competition there was no benefit for the competitions they were in, city are considered cheats because potentially they could’ve been financially doping and breaking rules for multiple years taking revenue and titles from other clubs

[@Pjj878]

That wasn't his argument, what else did nottingham have as an option? Play a season with 5 players? Is that the fans fault?

[@MFDOOM4635]

@@Pjj878ye but they clearly didn’t need to give Lingard 200k a week as one example

[@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings]

- LiVARpool caught Hacking - LiVARpool not considered Cheats - City found Not Guilty in Court - City are considered Cheats?🤣

[@nicholowski4766]

Well done Greg! Despite not being able to get a word in without being spoken over. Here’s hoping the rules are changed so that teams like Forest, Villa and Everton are able to invest, just like the big 6 have been doing for years, and grow their clubs. All well and good fans of the big 6 slagging off teams for breaking the rules yet they’d be nowhere near where they are today if these rules had been in place and enforced in the way they have been for the past year.

[@gannonmanu09]

Thats why England won't win cause they're picking players based on what they done for England. May aswell bring back Rooney if that's the way they're picking a squad

[@Nico2024-ds3ze]

What these guys are missing when they spoke of the create combination play by England, is that Toney was actually playing as a striker occupying defenders. Kane comes deep and changes that dynamic

[@ronitagarwal40]

Instead of discussing football, the experts and fans now have to discuss finance and accounts. What a joke the premier League has become.

[@Tarek_ElMaddah]

Football is a business now with a lot of money pumped in and a lot in stake. That’s an unfortunate fact.

[@Nacho_22439]

Great seeing Jay Motty, would to see him represent Man U more.

[@hamonryechinaski180]

Anything is better than the sperging of Adam M!!😂😂

[@stuartclarkson48]

Keep getting Clive for the Arsenal side of things so much better informed than the AFTV muppets

[@Itz3asy]

I don’t understand how Tottenham fans so feel entitled to win the big trophies. They had a their golden period recently and won nothing. No one in football is has a right to success. They are the biggest pretenders in the league and I’m surprised why no one calls them out on their unrealistic expectations.

[@hellohi1445]

Wait a minute…they’re on a 16 year trophy drought and you’re saying they just had a golden era 😂 closest to major trophies ≠ golden era Also they’re the 6th most successful team in England. On a trophy drought. And you’re saying it’s unrealistic for them to expect to challenge trophies?

[@Joker-yw9hl]

First English team to win the Double and first British team to win a European trophy. Put some respek on the bottler's name

[@Amberle73]

@@hellohi1445 Of course it was a golden era for them, they even got to the Champions League final & finished above Arsenal for 6 years as their fans love to crow about. The fact they didn't win anything in that time despite being that good by their standards is precisely why they shouldn't be feeling entitled to trophies.

[@hellohi1445]

@@Amberle73 it was their best couple of years but it wasn’t a golden era bro. U man act like Tottenham is Crystal Palace 💀💀💀 They’ve got good history. As I said, 6th most successful. And they’re on a trophy drought. And what ur trying to tell me is that the fans should just accept that? Ur trying to say that it’s unrealistic that spurs fans should expect their team to have the right to challenge for titles?

[@kronix955]

​@@hellohi1445I mean I understand fans not wanting to accept constant disappointment but 6th most successful team within your country is evidence enough to say yous have never been a big threat for titles in the first place. Look at Torino, Sevilla in their respective nations we don't expect them to win leagues or even win domestic cups often

[@PhilBerry83]

Good to see Jay on here

[@txbill2512]

Gary has answered his own question where Forest are concerned. It isn't on Forest, it's on the league and what's at stake for staying in the league much less trying to break into the top six. Easy for Gary to throw stones from the cheap seats when Forest are going to do whatever they can to stay in the league. It isn't Forest, or Everton or Leicester. It's on the Premier League and their allowing it to get where it is today.

[@MrDazzaboi1]

My view (and I may be completely wrong here but go with it), I think Ben simply decided to not put himself in a situation where he obviously isn't comfortable. I think it this was a qualifier international break, it would be different. I think he looked at it as 2 non important friendlies, getting ready for a tournament that he probably wouldn't be picked for so why risk an injury or similar. I think he simply put club football above friendlies with an England team that wasn't even close to full strength for these games.

[@stevenglansberg4468]

Bloody hell clive tell us what happened with Ben White. Im not paying to read the Telegraph

[@splinter360]

Lmfao right? Was like he was doing an ad for them. Someone should have prompt him.

[@Hinderz]

The story was something like Holland asked walker a tactical question about city in the run in and walker gave a detailed answer. Then he asked White what went wrong for Arsenal in the run in. White said he didn’t know. Holland used that response as an excuse to try and humiliate White in front of the squad by questioning his professionalism and whether he even cares about football (referencing an interview he once said they didn’t watch football on tv in his house growing up). This has put them offside with each other and White knows they aren’t going to play him. Holland’s characterisation flies in the face of everything that all of White’s coaches have said about him in the past and his professional pride. Southgate then given a choice between resolving the issue or letting it lay for the time being, decided to protect Holland and throw White under the bus in front of the media. Terrible leadership

[@DTblocks]

It’s £29 for a year don’t be a cheapo 😂

[@JimmySands-pd7xt]

White sounds like a soft character for getting so worked up over something like that

[@paulangeloff400]

@@Hinderz thanks for that very succinct explanation. You’re right. Terrible management. Exactly what we’ve all come to expect of Southgate though.

[@UTVPODCAST]

Thanks for having me again, Great show UTV

[@ulricjude]

Liked your segment a lot! The league needs a firing Villa in and around the European spots. Good luck to you!

[@UTVPODCAST]

@@ulricjude thankyou mate

[@Paulav719]

U have it spot on the way u talk about the villa and we are on a up ward spiral love your chanel keep it up

[@happy_camper]

Good voice to have in the discussion, well done 👏

[@UTVPODCAST]

@@happy_camper thankyou

[@hjc9912]

Trippier made a few mistakes and everyone's forgotten how good he is. 10 assists this season and he locked up Mbappe twice. Last year was the main creator in Newcastle's top 4 team and got Premier League TOTY. Before that was the catalyst in Newcastle staying up. Before that he won La Liga with Atleti and got in their TOTY.

[@dontchatbreeze]

Trippier takes every set piece for newcastle, which is why he has 10 assists. Defensively he has been poor, and hes old now so its unlikely he will recover his form. Its not like reece james, whos only 24 and is recovering from a long term injury, so will go on to be the best english right back

[@hellohi1445]

He didn’t lock up mbappe twice lol?

[@hjc9912]

@@hellohi1445 Yes he did?

[@10ZvonimirBoban]

You English fans are so lucky to have a civilized debate about football. Thanks to the fans, Carragher and Neville.

[@bookread4919]

Like Clive. Great viewpoint seems balanced

[@NicholasMcIlveen]

I need a browser extension that skips forward any time Carragher is speaking

[@thefootballpunnedit]

Gary is well off… he recons Forest spend and staying up isnt working… most of our best players in that side that got promoted were loanees. Not only did we have a poor squad by promotion standards… we then had half that squad disappear. We had half of a midtable Championship team upon arrival and stayed up with a game to spare. No parachute payments to get up and half the psr wiggle room of the rest of the league. It was VERY successful to stay up. You can’t look at everything from the eyes of a big club or an outlier like Brighton. That squad wasnt one of the best 3 in the champ at all… we had no parachute payments… and half the team vanished and we still stayed up. It was incredible if you give it full context. They signed a lot they should do xyz is so over simplified it begs belief.

[@Hearyehearye515]

Phew, I’m glad you’ve said this because it’s saved me a rant! 🤣 it gets boring the ignorance to the situation but I understand why it gets so easily criticised. Nobody mentions that after all that spending we still didn’t have a squad value in the first season that matched any of the top half of the table or that Leicester went down with a squad value that was twice ours was after all our signings! I think our squad value when promoted was around £15m or something like that 🤣

[@Aus_Blade]

Cry me a fukn river. You had to cheat to stay up ?? Then you should have spent within the rules, been relegated, strengthened with parachute payments and tried for promotion again … you know, like every other promoted team ?

[@dontchatbreeze]

Wdym “parachute payments” you just got promoted, you got given all the money from premier league tv rights etc. no one forced you to rely on loan players for promotion, or forced you to sell other first team players, and spent £200 million on like 16 new players

[@Rzarecteh]

​@@Aus_BladeWe didnt cheat to stay up, we were only over the limit for 2 months in July & August this season.

[@EmBwoz]

Too bad. Nobody forced you to choose a squad full of loanees to get promoted from the Championship in the first place. You did that of your own volition. Luton barely have a squad fit for the Premier League but here they are, trying their asses off and putting in a good effort at surviving. There is zero reason you need to be buying 30 odd players in a season whatsoever. I can see 11-15 players in extreme situations but what actually happened is just bizarre.

[@PodCuts101]

Ben white is currently and has been the best in form RB in the prem for 2 years. Let’s be real

[@thkollias]

The rules are ridiculous. The transfer window cannot be different from the psr deadline...

[@MrBlonde2222]

Spurs spent €270m this season but you’d think they spent nothing listening to this 😂

[@RobinHood-us7sg]

Exactly - £47.5m on Bren - we’ll always love him but jeez !

[@conor459]

That’s innacurate, Kulusevski was signed 2 years ago but full fee put in 2023 accounts and Porro was signed last January

[@hotspurash4825]

Bro don’t just type nonsense…the point is spurs need to go out and make 80-10 million type players to compete ..we always go for potential and tier 2 players so to speak..Allison, Van dyk..Declan rice calibre type players…have some logic 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@BennettIsAmazing]

So grateful to have Clive on to represent us. It's not vibes with him it's solid facts, represented fairly, and with an authentic insight that isn't afraid to go against the narrative we all get fed.

[@user-eb6vj3rd4i]

Good on ya Baz for getting the last word in!

[@Rzarecteh]

Neville is so out of touch with anything outside the top 6 clubs. The pile in on Forest was ridiculous

[@sideshowbob9501]

Clive really knows his stuff!! Great person to represent us Gooners.

[@hughmcneillie1032]

The Gary O'Neil mention is related to Mitchell Van Der Gaag could potentially be going back to manage Ajax. United would look to replace him with a good first team coach.

[@paulcasey4282]

These top games are very rarely won by the away team. In the history of Pep vs Klopp in the Premier league in front of fans, the away team has NEVER won. You then add Arsenal in this season and still no away team has won away against another top team. Pundits like to do lots of bluster because they are paid to provide insight but I feel these games are decided by something as simple as home vs away.

[@nameanteater4772]

“This March friendly” it’s literally for the Euro final qualifiers, the start of the World Cup qualifiers starting for CONCACAF and Asia

[@sly_numero]

I support Ben White's decision not to wanna play for England

[@rew0rked]

Don’t get why it’s a fuss 😂 it’s not an obligation

[@werewolf1803]

​@@rew0rked you would, wouldn't you. Half of the Arsenal fans are from Africa and India

[@jackwebb987]

​@@werewolf1803 It really doesn't matter if he's rejected his call-up. We don't know what's gone on behind-the-scenes.

[@rew0rked]

@@werewolf1803 what

[@rew0rked]

Are you taking overtime on your holiday?

[@AFCN7]

Keep getting Clive back on here, he's absolutely fantastic

[@twiistaaaa]

Jay Motty finally 🇾🇪

[@PainX]

At least here we don't have to hear him say "dont forget to like subscribe and get involved in the comments" every 30 seconds

[@degeautdfanfirst]

Finally🟥ETH

[@jordanfox1622]

Jay Motty Top bloke 👌🏻👌🏻

[@kasjr3790]

You just have to love how the English talk about their football…so entertaining ❤

[@Claznay]

Ben White is a big loss mainly because of his link up with Saka, they play week in week out have a really good understanding and support each other, even if the other players are technically better they don't offer that element

[@CourageOfMyConvictions]

Can’t even listen to Gary bullying his way through the Forest stuff. Had actually respected him as a pundit at one point. Not anymore.

[@CityXtra]

Thanks for having us on everyone! 💙

[@scottmoffatt5754]

You bored everyone to sleep

[@atlasgemz7996]

💙

[@kaaro4832]

Yknow

[@faris_02]

Yes yes yes jordy!!!!!

[@Cantbearsed447]

​@@scottmoffatt5754your mum was excited

[@TheJollySailor]

Sounds like a PR move by these two saying Ben White is behind all those other defenders🤡 Do they watch any of his games or are they talking out of their a**

[@sivenathidayile9027]

Saying Ben White is like John Stones. Ben White actually enjoys heading balls out and making blocks. The guy does whatever the manager wants.

[@jem2886]

Well we all know Gareth will play maguires and stones that’s pretty much guaranteed and Walker is first choice then Trent and trippier so yes no matter how good he is this season he won’t start or probably even play blame the manager

[@JimmySands-pd7xt]

He is behind the other defenders, in terms of Southgate’s thoughts

[@JamesBiggins-xb4wo]

Means nothing what you think tripper has been reliable for England so Southgate trust him to play if walker doesn’t

[@EatMyShorts12]

Yeah couldnt agree more the international break absolutley kills my mood. Got no interest in a friendly thats played for no prize.

[@gtpliquid1290]

The thing with international breaks is that because England usually qualify without a bother, people just take it for granted. If your national team doesn't steamroll through qualifying, international football is absolutely brilliant and so thrilling. So many games really matter and when you get excited about almost all of your national team's games, even friendlies are something to look forward to.

[@cambatson8740]

Carra came off a bit rude a couple of times though, great video.

[@ssmufc9941]

Jay Motty! 🙌🏽

[@samuellamptey8564]

Clive is the perfect representative for Arsenal on this show. Top top analysis and brings nuance to the convo that usually lost with these show. Keep him!

[@tolulopesoetan9999]

The interlude tune always comes as a shock

[@robertmacleod7851]

So nice hearing less argumentative and more balanced views from all sides. Keep the good ones got ride of of the ranty shite, regardless of team.

[@JackoLid]

Baz should be a third host of this show, up the Toffee TV

[@Sha_Lom999]

So good to have Jay on 👏🏻

[@Collerz7]

Southgate won’t play that midfield, he said after the game it felt too open for him. How can a midfield of Bellingham, mainoo and rice be unbalanced? Any good manager would love that trio and make it work easily. Henderson will start most games.

[@obchoseme]

big up Baz. top guy.

[@trident8480]

Can people not see Ben whites point even if he gets selected for england its clear southgate picks favourites so he knows no matter what as soon as james and walker are fit he dosent play

[@hyywe240]

By "his favourites" you mean the better players?

[@LogBomb]

He’s England’s fifth best right back. It’s nothing to do with favourites.

[@whiteglovepc]

@@LogBomb he shouldn’t play RB for England. He should play CB.

[@bentaylor8068]

On form, he’s their second or third best RB. To say he’s the fifth best is ridiculous

[@LogBomb]

@@whiteglovepc when he doesn’t play right back for his club?

[@NoContextTheOfficeUK-zb9co]

Big up Jay, Stretford Paddock massive checking in

[@BlackRuum]

Yes Luke... UTV... Keep flying the Villa flag mate... We never get enough credit in the media but you keep us in the conversation... We March On... In Unai We TrusT

[@robertcampbell661]

I love all the hype of the England squad and players, we all know they aren't winning the euros. But gary gives himself the out of the CB's not being good enough, England will struggle to score goals in the knock outs or against any decent team

[@aaronryan8979]

Carra cutting off Clive on the Ben white over trippier chat is very poor

[@joncoish]

To be fair they cut off everyone, I don’t know if any of the fans were able to just finish a thought. I guess they have to keep things under control, some of the fans do go on and on…

[@SteveAustin-zv1nn]

If the hosts didn't cut people off then Clive will still be there, whispering to himself about Trippy-eh and White.

[@aaronryan8979]

@@SteveAustin-zv1nn he was correct in what he was saying Ben white has been far better this season then trippier but English media bias has been stopping england winning anything for years so I shouldn’t be surprised

[@anonymous7egend]

He needs to get to his point faster

[@sionrhysroberts]

Love the Liverpool fans basically saying "well we didnt want to win the FA Cup anyway!" hahahha

[@MarkPorter-ru3zt]

Well done Greg Mitchell 👏🏻

[@Owl1995TTB]

Gary, if you're going to ask someone a question. Can you not at least allow that person to actually answer rather than interrupting them after about four words? That isn't a debate.

[@RobinHood-us7sg]

Forest x Wednesday 👊🏼

[@Hilly14HD]

Well played Greg. Trying to explain our situation to Non Forest Fans is a nightmare and they just don't or want to understand the fact we had a squad of 5 Players when we came up. We HAD to sign Players. Well Represented.

[@JimmySands-pd7xt]

34? You could have signed half of that amount. Also you only have yourselves to blame for having 5 players at the start of a season. Poor management from your club

[@stewartbanner]

But who's fault is that? Certainly not the PL or the other 19 teams. I couldn't win a cycling race without doping, should I just be allowed to do it?

[@EmBwoz]

Nobody forced you to take a squad full of loanees just to get promoted. That was your own choice.

[@Eriatha]

They open talking about international football and how boring it is at this time of year, forgetting that a lot of teams were in playoff matches. It's not all about England, lads.

[@aneeshmenon3379]

Point deductions should be for next season. This in season point deduction is just odd.