"ARSENE WENGER IS A GENIUS!" 🧠 Rory Jennings praises Wenger's impact on Arsenal & English football!

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@balogungaa2301
@balogungaa2301 11 ай бұрын
As a United fan I will argue with anyone that Wenger is definitely a premier league legend. I know he didn't win much towards the end, but I mostly attribute it to lack of funds due to the Emirates construction and the constant sale of quality players he developed, plus the quality of football every iteration of his team played was legendary. The Premier league won't be where it is now, without his contribution.
@jackmanning6843
@jackmanning6843 11 ай бұрын
Big Respect
@CoIumbo
@CoIumbo 11 ай бұрын
This and I'm a spurs fan
@finding_aether
@finding_aether 11 ай бұрын
That man could only sign players who were on discount and not chased by other big clubs... and often had to cobble together a team with whatever he could get his hands on, still kept them in Europe for many years.
@ahmedyasin9569
@ahmedyasin9569 11 ай бұрын
Respect!
@AOK342
@AOK342 11 ай бұрын
Very few managers were better at discovering top quality attacking players.
@iykeharrison9161
@iykeharrison9161 11 ай бұрын
Any manager that can win the league without losing a single game in the season is definitely a premier league legend.
@ItsJesssee
@ItsJesssee 11 ай бұрын
Even as a United fan I was just surprised by the sheer stupidity of that statement Arsene is definitely a Prem legend
@theach84
@theach84 11 ай бұрын
@@ItsJessseethat fool is Jordan and Arsenal fans are ashamed of him
@obiobi9378
@obiobi9378 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely correct
@deslynham3170
@deslynham3170 11 ай бұрын
So is one who can bottle the league when 8 points clear with only 9 games to go - Genius
@deslynham3170
@deslynham3170 11 ай бұрын
@@theach84 How much do u pay for your season ticket Arsenal 'fan' to think u have a valid opinion? Can i guess?
@peter6914
@peter6914 11 ай бұрын
If Wenger was given half the resources of Guardiola he would have won the league at least 3 more times, the board deeply let him and the club down. He was only given a measly £10m to spend on a keeper one summer transfer and yet some how finished second at the end of the season, we were always one DM, one CM or one FW away from winning the title but the toxic dual ownership fucked him over hard. Wenger carried Arsenal on a shoestring only to get disrespected by rent boy Mourinho and his sugar daddy pocket money.
@eL--RaL
@eL--RaL 11 ай бұрын
What resources??? Kid 😂😂 Wenger had all the resources he needed..Don't act like he only had £2 in transfer market Excuses FC 😂😂
@davidj8321
@davidj8321 11 ай бұрын
He didn't win more because he was up against sir Alex , end of
@sempsmoud45
@sempsmoud45 11 ай бұрын
​@@eL--RaL so why did he sell his best players each season?
@eL--RaL
@eL--RaL 11 ай бұрын
@@davidj8321 He was up against FA and Prem at The Headquarters, Old Trafford
@eL--RaL
@eL--RaL 11 ай бұрын
@@paultaylor9498 WTF?? what money?? How much has Pep and Klopp spent since they came to Prem?? Tell me?? I bet Klopp has spent more 😂😂
@nikeshhindocha2100
@nikeshhindocha2100 11 ай бұрын
As a united fan, there ain’t no many better managers than Wenger. He came in and changed the whole dynamics of football. Even fergie was blown away with the way in which he played football.
@Jim-jimminy
@Jim-jimminy 11 ай бұрын
Thank you United fan, you’re a true football fan. And as an Arsenal fan , Man United was truly force of nature. It was a pleasure to share the stage with you
@Nebularis88
@Nebularis88 11 ай бұрын
Respect
@rdholyfield965
@rdholyfield965 11 ай бұрын
Wenger worked miracles on a limited budget Won domestic titles with a swagger never seen before.Developed worldclass players and attractive football style .Legend in my eyes
@jonathangunner9245
@jonathangunner9245 11 ай бұрын
Wenger and Ferguson - I'm so lucky to have grown up watching the greatest rivalry in Premier League history
@abiodunodeleye7984
@abiodunodeleye7984 11 ай бұрын
Wenger revolutionized English football from an insular league into a worldwide league. For that alone , he’s a English football legend. He created the modern Arsenal. He managed at the club in the period of austerity, and still kept the club relevant. He belongs in the pantheon of coaches who changed football. Unfortunately you guys only speak about trophies, etc.
@deslynham3170
@deslynham3170 11 ай бұрын
How's your PFA Coaching Badges going boy?
@Jim-jimminy
@Jim-jimminy 11 ай бұрын
Agreed. A true pioneer of the beautiful game
@liamgillham970
@liamgillham970 11 ай бұрын
There’s no debate Arsene Wenger is a premier legend
@Josh-xe3rv
@Josh-xe3rv 11 ай бұрын
But people are debating it tho so clearly there is
@AG-nr1mv
@AG-nr1mv 11 ай бұрын
Wenger changed the face of English football, let that statement sink in !
@2k10sean
@2k10sean 11 ай бұрын
From 2006 on, after the Emirates was built, Wenger basically had to sell his best player every year to financially stabilize the club. The fact that he consistently finished in the CL every year is miraculous.
@caleb0388
@caleb0388 11 ай бұрын
Arsenal finished 6th once, and 5th once under Arsene. Every other position was in the top 4. Is he crazy? That guy said we finished 5th and 6th a couple of times and 8th under Arsene? Talksport can do better than this lot
@allenmartinalmeida4728
@allenmartinalmeida4728 11 ай бұрын
That’s epl pundits for you 😂
@finding_aether
@finding_aether 11 ай бұрын
Rory Jennings said to sack Tuchel and bring Lampard back. He also said tht Haaland will be lucky to score 15 goals in the EPL. Why do anyone expect an intelligent answer from him is beyond me😅
@DontMentionMyName11
@DontMentionMyName11 11 ай бұрын
​@@finding_aether"why do" and "intelligent" in the same question....
@gunnerfan2000
@gunnerfan2000 11 ай бұрын
Debating whether Wenger is a Prem legend? 😂
@finnhughes7836
@finnhughes7836 11 ай бұрын
don’t take these talksport clowns seriously they don’t understand the beautiful game
@deslynham3170
@deslynham3170 11 ай бұрын
Says the clown who thinks Arteta going 3 years trophy less is 'progress'....
@fanadlamini8144
@fanadlamini8144 11 ай бұрын
​@@deslynham3170go look up progress in the dictionary... U will learn something, hint....it has something to do about being better than previously
@finnhughes7836
@finnhughes7836 11 ай бұрын
@@deslynham3170 you don’t understand football i encourage you to find a new sport
@johnbarrert3732
@johnbarrert3732 11 ай бұрын
​@@deslynham3170you probably should take the others guys advice and follow a different sports, something simpler,if you don't see a difference in arteta arsenal today and that of three years ago you aren't understanding the game.
@puiachhangte4784
@puiachhangte4784 11 ай бұрын
Wenger is not just Arsenal...he was instrumental in getting the EPL in getting football to the level it was. He had elevate the level of football to a higher level. And let's not forget his time was while it was the time the Stadium was being constructed and money was scare...he had to let go of many star players....specially to Man City...what a horrible time that was. Let's not forget that he took that in his stride and managed all of the circumstances of the time. Kudos to him. RESPECT!!!
@kcjones8998
@kcjones8998 11 ай бұрын
He's in the hall of fame . How is he not a legend . He did great in a time when United were incredible.
@ayorindefolorunso8923
@ayorindefolorunso8923 11 ай бұрын
wish i could thumbs ur comment up twice
@emmanuelabban6163
@emmanuelabban6163 11 ай бұрын
He’s in the PL hall of fame lol he’s clearly a PL legend
@rockydongre
@rockydongre 11 ай бұрын
sad to see the host himself doesn't know anything about Arsene's impact
@dirtygunslinger9835
@dirtygunslinger9835 11 ай бұрын
And he’s an arsenal fan!
@mateo-zq5wl
@mateo-zq5wl 11 ай бұрын
​@@dirtygunslinger9835na surely not
@dirtygunslinger9835
@dirtygunslinger9835 11 ай бұрын
@@mateo-zq5wl yeah he co hosts an arsenal podcast called Four-ever Arsenal
@mateo-zq5wl
@mateo-zq5wl 11 ай бұрын
@@dirtygunslinger9835cheers bro dnt subscribe negative gooners we enjoy boss
@jamesdixon6903
@jamesdixon6903 11 ай бұрын
The fact that this is even a discussion is insane. Wenger changed the premier league with style of play and dietary requirements. He won the league without losing a game (I don’t care about draws). He produced the best striker the league has ever seen and adapted him into what he became. He came close to winning UCL but when your players get sent off for not hearing the whistle for an offside it’s out of your hands. Watch his documentary the man is pure class.
@tastyf1974
@tastyf1974 11 ай бұрын
This bloke is supposed to be an Arsenal fan, but yet he gets his facts wrong. Wenger changed football in England.
@jamie3093
@jamie3093 11 ай бұрын
His premier league trophy is gold. No one else can say that.
@wickedmanrick2582
@wickedmanrick2582 11 ай бұрын
Arsenal cant say european champions
@michaelfisher5690
@michaelfisher5690 11 ай бұрын
He revolutionised English football.. of course he’s a PL legend
@eL--RaL
@eL--RaL 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂He revolutionized what??? Yeah what reality do you live in??
@finnhughes7836
@finnhughes7836 11 ай бұрын
@@eL--RaL you’re literally just exposing your lack of knowledge google is your friend…
@JB-nj2wr
@JB-nj2wr 11 ай бұрын
And he’s an arsenal fan. He’s a legend. It’s not even a debate
@Fu2skater
@Fu2skater 11 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@eL--RaLI revolutionised your Nan
@nikhiljudge1163
@nikhiljudge1163 11 ай бұрын
its funny people forget in those 10 years his objective was to make £10 million profit on player sales every year whilst trying to pay off the stadium and maintain 4th. Go back and look at the teams hes been working with - the amount of shite we had in those teams lol
@jgooner894
@jgooner894 11 ай бұрын
He’s inducted into the Premier League Hall of Fame along with Ferguson already. Of course he’s a PL legend.
@srykextraodinairecreation9962
@srykextraodinairecreation9962 11 ай бұрын
Bro. How he is now PL legend he changed football in PL not just in Arsenal.
@wills.1978
@wills.1978 11 ай бұрын
this discussion "is he a premier league legend" itself is an insult to the great man. headline is the last 5 seconds of a lazy conversation mostly spent criticizing wenger between two fools ive never heard of. i know its talksport. but good lord what an embarrassment.
@1mannik
@1mannik 11 ай бұрын
Jose will never have a statue anywhere . U boys have no idea how much Arsene did at Arsenal . None of your other so called great managers built a team , training ground , a stadium , all with severe financial restrictions. To time after time develop talent ... To go unbeaten .... He is a genius . He never embarassed the club . He set the Tone for everyone
@parker-ii7fg
@parker-ii7fg 11 ай бұрын
Yes the City vs Liverpool title races of recent times were more relentless and high quality but for me the Arsenal vs United/Wenger vs Ferguson rivalry of the late 90s/early 2000s remains the greatest premier league rivalry. It was passionate. It was intense. It was, at times, highly fierce and bad tempered. But there always remained a mutual respect that they were the two iconic teams and the two iconic manager's that forged the EPL into what it is today. So many amazing nostalgic memories.
@spark556
@spark556 11 ай бұрын
Nostalgia merchant
@eL--RaL
@eL--RaL 11 ай бұрын
Nostalgia merchant
@davidjames1377
@davidjames1377 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately PL football changed after that. There is no heated rivalry, no wars on the pitch, no battles that carry over into other games.
@gooner_duke2756
@gooner_duke2756 11 ай бұрын
@@eL--RaL There's a reason for Nostalgia... because they were better times and people don't feel as satisfied in comparison. That was a rivalry back then in every sense. Every neutral was involved in it, you couldn't avoid the sheer intensity and competition. Recent... so called rivalries (City v Liverpool) are as dry as hell, like 🤷‍♂so what and will be forgotten in 10/20 years. You'll know because there will be no nostalgia.... if you didn't live that era, you don't know.
@eamonnbarrett7995
@eamonnbarrett7995 11 ай бұрын
As a United suppporter Wenger should go down as a legend. They were good times playing Arsenal back then.
@oufc90
@oufc90 11 ай бұрын
7 FA Cups as well. That’s unprecedented.
@deslynham3170
@deslynham3170 11 ай бұрын
Wow, how many UCLs?
@michaelelah8106
@michaelelah8106 11 ай бұрын
​@@deslynham3170 😂
@kontorboateng3947
@kontorboateng3947 11 ай бұрын
Finally Rory has something good to say about Arsenal
@kurtsudheim825
@kurtsudheim825 11 ай бұрын
He's actuality often spoken how he respected arsenal, he just gives them stick now because they've fallen from his idea as a child. It's like saying a millionaire is no longer rich because he was a billionaire a while ago
@emsee7602
@emsee7602 11 ай бұрын
Wenger is a English domestic football legend. The dude revolutinised the English domestic game, Pep has evolved what he did.
@eL--RaL
@eL--RaL 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😭😭😭😭😭 Kid lives in a different reality
@ashishanshuman3074
@ashishanshuman3074 11 ай бұрын
You’re that kid
@finnhughes7836
@finnhughes7836 11 ай бұрын
@@eL--RaL time and time again you expose that you have never watched football before 2010 you’re probably about 12 lol
@eL--RaL
@eL--RaL 11 ай бұрын
@@finnhughes7836 If you've got some argument..Post it here and stop saying "you started watching football since this time" LMAO Kids use that statement to get out of argument when they've got no point to make in an argument...If u've got the reason why he's the one who revolutionized English football and not Pep, just bring it on 😂
@finnhughes7836
@finnhughes7836 11 ай бұрын
@@eL--RaL so ironic considering you keep spamming emojis and comments of no substance under every pro arsenal comment lol. Wenger revolutionised the diet, training, fitness and player recruitment. He came in to the league at a time when foreign managers were not favoured. It’s not that hard to do research mate but clearly that’s too complicated for someone as thick as you.
@peejay6930
@peejay6930 11 ай бұрын
You can't compare Wenger to chequebook managers like Pep and Jose
@spark556
@spark556 11 ай бұрын
Warra ucl
@tenderhooligan7580
@tenderhooligan7580 11 ай бұрын
Yes yes yes. This is why Wenger trumps Pep and Jose and no one can say otherwise.
@finnhughes7836
@finnhughes7836 11 ай бұрын
@@spark556is urs gold?
@eL--RaL
@eL--RaL 11 ай бұрын
Pep and Jose on their Worst day is Still better than Wenger's best form 😂
@tenderhooligan7580
@tenderhooligan7580 11 ай бұрын
@@eL--RaL Steve Bruce would be better than Wenger if he had the money Jose and Pep had.
@tournaline3448
@tournaline3448 11 ай бұрын
Wenger didn’t just try to win, he tried to win with style. There has not been a team in England that has come close to the beauty that Wenger’s Arsenal played with. The perfect balance of intricate team play with individual flair. It was breathtaking to watch at times.
@mpd7878
@mpd7878 11 ай бұрын
ONLY MAN IN 100 YEARS IN ENGLISH TOP LEAGUE TO GO UNBEATEN, NOT A LEGEND? 😂 WHO MANAGED VS ALL THE OTHERS IN A PREM GAME ? WENGER FERGUSON LEFT BEFORE PEP KLOPP ERA WENGER WENT THROUGH 3 OR 4 ERAS OF PREM
@patrickalain6346
@patrickalain6346 11 ай бұрын
Talksport clowns debating if Wenger is a PL legend 😂 Man U fan here stating the obvious - Yes he is a PL legendary Manager. The disrespect from these muppets is laughable. 🤡
@tj4879
@tj4879 11 ай бұрын
How is that even a question? The guy is clueless.
@thetruth4654
@thetruth4654 11 ай бұрын
Wenger is a legend, and he made Arsenal into a worldwide club and his impact on the PL was massive. I cannot stand Arsenal, but that is mainly down to my experiences with the arsenal fanbase, when it comes to the football that Arsenal play i do largely enjoy it as it`s fun and offensive football.
@david_mahmoudieh
@david_mahmoudieh 11 ай бұрын
Wenger NOT a PL legend? 😂 How quickly people forget. There are only two managers who have won more PLs than Wenger: Ferguson and Pep. Wenger won more FA Cups than any other manager - by a mile. His wider contribution to English football and the folklore of the Premier League is also legendary; blooding legendary players, and achieving a legendary never-done-before-or-again entire season unbeaten… If that doesn’t grant legendary status, I don’t know what does. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@adamwelch9988
@adamwelch9988 11 ай бұрын
Its not a debate
@sunnytoor1902
@sunnytoor1902 11 ай бұрын
If you ask any REAL Man utd fan they will tell you Wenger was a genius and will forever be a legend!. Despite the rivalry there was always Respect.
@mikkys5374
@mikkys5374 11 ай бұрын
how can you be the only manger to go undefeated and not be a prem legend? i forgot his name but this guy is a arsenal hater and claims to support the club. Absolutely annoying!!
@LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989
@LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989 11 ай бұрын
I’m no Arsenal fan but Wenger is a PL legend.
@latetotheparty4465
@latetotheparty4465 10 ай бұрын
Maybe not a premier league legend??? Drop me out , he changed the beautiful game in front of my very own eyes. He’s more than just an Arsenal legend , he along with many other Greats sculpted this league into the magnificent beast that it is. People from every corner of the earth are familiar with the Premier league and Arsene was a constant contributor to establishing the Pre as the greatest league in world football.
@czechpirc3212
@czechpirc3212 11 ай бұрын
Comparing Wengers AFC to the petrol clubs is absurd, granted he didnt adjust well to modern fubol (ie spending) and he paid the price but he built a legacy instead of purchasing one, big difference
@chekseng80
@chekseng80 11 ай бұрын
To say AW is not a EPL legend is hugely disrespect especially the modern EPL that we have now since 90s. Number of trophies certainyl is a huge factor but dont forget the impact that he had is up there with Fergie and Pep to the whole EPL. He revolutionised the way of manging players n football club and really open up the mass import of foreign talents to EPL and not to mention the Wengerball style that he has created will forever make him ine of the legendary figures when ppl talk abt the success of EPL history in the future.
@deslynham3170
@deslynham3170 11 ай бұрын
From Wengerball with the mass import of foreign talents winning trophies and qualifying for the CL every year for 2 decades, to Artetaball with the mass import of untalented foreigners Fabio Vieria and Lokonga etc and overpriced Chelsea rejects to qualify for the CL for the first time in 7 years... RIP Arsenal FC
@jackmanning6843
@jackmanning6843 11 ай бұрын
The disrespect that Wenger gets is mad, if you look at the squads he had to manager while losing his best players year in year out whilst other teams was getting pumped with money, he still got top 4 consistently and on top of that he won the most Fa Cups 7 and won 2 doubles and above all in English football history was Invincible. Even Alex Ferguson said that the invincible season is above all he had ever achieved. If Arsenal had the same money pumped into them as teams like chelsea then Arsenal and Wenger would of been a hell of a lot more successful!
@janysmahoney1271
@janysmahoney1271 11 ай бұрын
ne'r 21 yr straight in the Champas or Europa Lge spot with what he had t work with post Invincibles era; a team that consisted of Moosta, Kolasinac, Koshelney, Chambers, Socrates an a lazy Ozil-deadpan etc +hardly no money cos of paying for an overbloated stadium an Mr Scrooge ol Kroenke-face at the helm ...hell yes, id say he's right up there.
@williamjarrett9309
@williamjarrett9309 11 ай бұрын
the AFC hate on TalkSport knows no bounds. The man is a PL legendwithout a doubt. He is a legendary manager
@sharifmohammad2322
@sharifmohammad2322 11 ай бұрын
We sold Fabregas, Van Persie- two of our most prominent players post invincible era. Still unbelievable we got top 4 every year with the tinpot team we had back then. I look at those teams, and think what if.
@dbcoolguy90
@dbcoolguy90 11 ай бұрын
Arsenal Wenger is a premier league legend !!! He would have won more if he had the money that fergie had . Great Innovative Coach who deserves much more !! Statue is a Start
@astro9219
@astro9219 11 ай бұрын
3 premier league titles and the only unbeaten season in over 100 years and he’s not a premier league legend? This guy doesn’t know football.
@TheJayMarsh
@TheJayMarsh 11 ай бұрын
Im a United season ticket holder, I absolutely despise Arsenal and hated Wenger growing up watching the two teams battle it out. Arsene Wenger is one of the most legendary managers in world football. Anyone that says otherwise hasnt got a clue what theyre talking about.
@infamousakla9792
@infamousakla9792 11 ай бұрын
There’s no debate that he’s a legend. In his 20 years he’s had prem winning teams, unbeaten teams, more fa cups than any manager, overseen a stadium build, cutting cost while winning the odd fa cup. It’s a debate about who’s best but there’s no debate about him being a legend
@slyarsenal
@slyarsenal 11 ай бұрын
How is it even remotely a debate that Wenger is a legend? The man revolutionised the English game, went a whole season undefeated thus the only golden EPLtrophy was awarded, and kept Arsenal in the CL for a consecutive 18yrs, which at the time only Real Madrid had a better record. The man spent little, won the double twice, designed and supported the build of the current stadium, along with training grounds, gym facilities, player diets etc. Wenger will always be a legend. The man sacrificed his marriage and family for the club. We will never forget. Wenger is eternally Arsenal.
@TheBigGoonerAJ
@TheBigGoonerAJ 11 ай бұрын
Wenger's biggest flaw was his loyalty to arsenal and his loyalty to his principles, he is an Icon
@mcases2978
@mcases2978 11 ай бұрын
I’m done listening to these two. Questioning Arsene Wenger’s premier league legacy? Wow!
@everythingfootball7092
@everythingfootball7092 11 ай бұрын
Anyone who thinks Wenger isn't a PL legend needs brain check.
@spark556
@spark556 11 ай бұрын
Warra ucl
@everythingfootball7092
@everythingfootball7092 11 ай бұрын
@@spark556 never knew UCL was part of EPL 🤣🤣, warra dead brain
@spark556
@spark556 11 ай бұрын
@@everythingfootball7092 warra ucl
@eL--RaL
@eL--RaL 11 ай бұрын
​​@@everythingfootball7092So what?? Aren't Champions leagues the biggest prize in club football?? Stop making Prem Title some big deal becu it ain't..It's just a league with fame and Tv rights 😂 Pep WAY CLEAR !! 😂😂
@everythingfootball7092
@everythingfootball7092 11 ай бұрын
@@eL--RaL you're always saying rubbish
@matthiele
@matthiele 11 ай бұрын
Rory you clown. We had no money! What he did with no money is incredible.
@deslynham3170
@deslynham3170 11 ай бұрын
Arteta's spent 730m quid and gone 3 years trophy less that he calls 'progress'.
@vkdeen7570
@vkdeen7570 11 ай бұрын
wenger is a legend just because of the influence he had on football combined with the things he won domestically in england and because he was the robin to sir alex's batman in that golden era of prem football wasn't at the level of the absolute elite coaches of the game like pep ancelloti sir alex etc but certainly deserves recognition for what he did
@dustcore
@dustcore 11 ай бұрын
You guys are forgetting the fact that Wenger achieved all this on a very tight budget. Especially around the period when we moved into the Emirates
@RomeDCarlo
@RomeDCarlo 11 ай бұрын
Wenger is obviously a PL legendary coach, Top 5 easily
@robd3469
@robd3469 11 ай бұрын
He IS a PL legend. It's not remotely up for debate. He was the first one to consistently challenge Fergusons United and actually come out on top. Without Wenger who was seriously challenging United before 2005?? Who's to say that United wouldn't have won every PL title from 93 to 05 aside from Blackburn in 95??
@michaelglover6934
@michaelglover6934 11 ай бұрын
Wenger finished in the top 4 in every apart from his last 2 when he finished 5th and 6th
@kamranhussain5841
@kamranhussain5841 11 ай бұрын
anyone who questions arsene wengers legacy hasn't got a clue about football
@Richard-cm3pl
@Richard-cm3pl 11 ай бұрын
Wenger kept the club afloat through a period of very slim resources. To continue getting CL year after year was success. Within this he developed loads of talent and played brilliant football. Don’t forget he also won the FA cup twice on the bounce towards the end of his tenure and the double earlier in his reign. He was also loved by the players, not sure that is the case with many other managers. True legend.
@MotivationalMAC
@MotivationalMAC 11 ай бұрын
I'd put it this way in terms of them saying "wenger isn't top 2 anymore" because of Mourinho & pep. Let me give you an example from another sport. Why do you think people call Ali the goat in boxing? he definitely is not the best fighter in the history of boxing nor even his own era, he lost 5 times in that era, it's his influence over the sport and the sheer admiration that people had for him which has aligned him with "goat" status, the same applies to Arsene Wenger, he is top 2 not because of what his teams won or the way his teams played the game, it's the fact that he revolutionized the game in our country, brought more eyes than ever to the league and ultimately helped shape football into what it is today all from the sidelines.
@ulunjisichinga3205
@ulunjisichinga3205 11 ай бұрын
This man deserved a statue way before any arsenal player he managed. His number one for me. I don't see pep or ferguson wining things on such a budget. He won while paying for a stadium and now we are using that money to build arsenal again. His the number one for me in the EPL. Fergie had a blank check and so does pep. The only other guy I rate is klopp way better than pep.
@DGoose512
@DGoose512 11 ай бұрын
The issue with this debate is it always lacks context. Like put Mou, Pep, Ancelotti, etc. at Arsenal during that 9 year period with the budget they had for new signings, selling off their best players, and having to rely on young players. Do you honestly believe the results would be different? I mean Mou can’t even make the UCL, win an Italian Cup, or finish above Lazio while at Roma 😂. The only knock against Wenger is we was too loyal and not concerned enough about his legacy. He should have either pushed Arsenal to do more or left for another club.
@Starretsmedia
@Starretsmedia 11 ай бұрын
Dont forget the money abramovich was throwing in Chelsea and we just built a stadium with no money to buy players except crap ones, but we still worn silverware sir Wenger abd sir Alex were both geniuses no doubt
@toonyinc4879
@toonyinc4879 11 ай бұрын
I feel Wenger at one point thought he was paying the Emirates Stadiums Mortgage.... spending before the arrival of Ozil and the ones who followed...was kept very tight. They have paid off the stadium now and spending a fiar bit more.
@user-mt9gb5lz4m
@user-mt9gb5lz4m 11 ай бұрын
Success is different for each team
@souhityasen4785
@souhityasen4785 11 ай бұрын
Something stats don't tell you - the way he came and changed the culture of not only Arsenal but the premier league in the late '90s. And you also have to look at the financial contexts when you compare Chelsea with Arsenal from the mid-2000s till his departure in 2018. He had faults, I also don't think he's a top 2 PL manager, but for me, he is, undoubtedly a premier league legend.
@andredepasse27
@andredepasse27 11 ай бұрын
This guy is clueless and hugely biased. Wenger never finished lower than 6 and Mourinho got 3 titles, not 4.
@Pwnziillaaaa
@Pwnziillaaaa 11 ай бұрын
Arsene Wenger with NO MONEY 1st ever PL Invincible.- 3 PL titles - 7 FA CUPS - most in English history by any manager - completely revolutionised English football culture -built the first modern stadium and literally helped finance it.
@1283ethan
@1283ethan 11 ай бұрын
The way these two are talking you’d think Rory was the Arsenal fan and the other guy was a Chelsea fan
@calafcalafcalaf3845
@calafcalafcalaf3845 11 ай бұрын
Couple of 8th? I can’t remember none
@mpd7878
@mpd7878 11 ай бұрын
IN THEIR WHOLE TIME IN PREM WHO HAND LESS MONEY TO SPEND THEN WENGER FERGUSON? Mourinio? Pep? Wenger had the least money to spend
@christianenglish7467
@christianenglish7467 11 ай бұрын
Top 5 managers in premier league history are Ferguson, Guardiola, Wenger, Mourinho, Klopp
@simonrb1942
@simonrb1942 11 ай бұрын
Mourino and Pep are stellar, but you cannot ignore the tools they at thier disposal in the PL. Arsene was a different breed. An artist. When it was good it was beautiful. You had to just watch and take it in. But it wasnt consistent. Considering the early days I say a PL legend.
@enquirer2.0
@enquirer2.0 11 ай бұрын
I'm a stoke fan can't do with arsenal but 100 percent a premiership legend
@sean9446
@sean9446 11 ай бұрын
Ofc the man is a premier league legend. He was the 2nd manager inducted into the HOF. He’s won more premier league matches then most teams, let alone managers. He’s 3rd on the all time list for me, ahead of Mourinho who was the anti Wenger and whose style of football was boring in comparison.
@connor_afc
@connor_afc Ай бұрын
You’re not an Arsenal fan if you’re saying it’s a debate whether Wenger’s a legend simple as that
@maidenless2110
@maidenless2110 11 ай бұрын
Wenger finished 8th? Come again? I must have been in a coma.
@deslynham3170
@deslynham3170 11 ай бұрын
You still are if u think Arteta going 3 years trophy less is 'progress'.
@TheKh65
@TheKh65 11 ай бұрын
​@@deslynham3170are you ok? Copying and pasting such drivel like it is a zinger
@JoJo-xl4mb
@JoJo-xl4mb 11 ай бұрын
Idc what anyone says he’s still top two and yes I’m bias but idgaf, he’s a legend and will FOREVER BE A LEGEND!
@jasonleon1976
@jasonleon1976 11 ай бұрын
Basing Wengers legacy in the Premier league just on trophies is very short sighted to say the least. He pretty much revolutionised football worldwide. Everything we take for granted now. The analytics, nutrition, psychology, coaching and scouting is based on his blueprint. The Premier league was playing catch up to Serie A and the rest of the continent in the early/mid 90s and he helped to bridge that gap. Arsenals DNA today, the stadium, the footballing heritage, the brand, is all him. Not to mention his trophies, consistency over more than 2 decades and a 0 loss campaign that the likes of the modern greats Liverpool and City have not been able to match. To say his status as a Premier league legend is up for debate, shows a huge lack of respect and I would even question your resume and football knowledge to come out with such crap. Even die hard spurs fans would find it hard to disagree Wenger is a Premier league icon.
@brownmoney27
@brownmoney27 11 ай бұрын
No debate, legend. Imagine if he had the budget that Jose or Pep were given
@orientalboy86
@orientalboy86 11 ай бұрын
Of course he’s a PL legend. He revolutionized the game and PL and was the only one to go unbeaten.
@willstinson925
@willstinson925 11 ай бұрын
The only manager to win the premier league undefeated. Legend status conversation over, he is one!
@jamesparry6481
@jamesparry6481 11 ай бұрын
I disagree. I still think is 1. Ferguson, 2. Wenger. Look at how much money Guardiola has spent in his time at City and Mourinho for all his achievements, also spent a huge amount of money to get there and never achieved it with the same level of style and panache. Wenger’s first 9 years were as good as any.
@leonanderson2197
@leonanderson2197 11 ай бұрын
How can people think he’s not a premier league legend?
@bahriboy
@bahriboy 11 ай бұрын
Na this guy is a clown. How can you compare Mourinho & Pep who basically has UNLIMITED FUNDS to Wenger on peanuts. Even Fergie had infititely more money. Rio, Carrick, Rooney, Berbatov, Veron, Anderson, RVN, Nani, Hargreaves & many more are all more expensive than any player wenger signed for his first 16 years! That is double the length of his 'super successful' period (96-04). I personally think keeping top 4 for so long after the visionary of the club Dein left & under shambolic ownership period is just as good a job as anything Wenger did in that first period. Judging only via results & outcomes is very shortsighted.
@joelthorpe4170
@joelthorpe4170 11 ай бұрын
Did he really say Wenger isn't a Premier League legend??? Absolute delusional.
@bucknasty250
@bucknasty250 11 ай бұрын
It's not a debate if he's a league legend. Only 2 managers have won more league titles than him.
@lew87ys
@lew87ys 11 ай бұрын
Wait, that's not how the song goes.
@colingeddes2172
@colingeddes2172 11 ай бұрын
Wenger was the most influential manager in premier league history, not neccesary the best, but his status in English football is cemmented forever.
@ktom5262
@ktom5262 11 ай бұрын
The statue: his arms are too long, he might touch his knees while standing upright.
@thegamingduckpond7953
@thegamingduckpond7953 11 ай бұрын
Debatable if he’s a premier league legend?😂😂 who lets this dude on air man, most fa cup wins ever, only manager in premier league history to go invincible, revolutionised the game with diets and style of football. Easily a legend of the whole game let alone just the prem
@estinbrown6087
@estinbrown6087 11 ай бұрын
What do you mean, means nothing about numbers at all, Wenger changed the whole game and gave pep means to even be able to come here and manage the way he did.
@AgentLynch616
@AgentLynch616 11 ай бұрын
He deserves a statue. It’s the only prem trophy that stadium has seen
@kall9042
@kall9042 11 ай бұрын
It’s a shame Alex Ferguson and Man U dominated when wenger was around when he was managing otherwise he would of been bigger
@yellayettithemythical7045
@yellayettithemythical7045 11 ай бұрын
Only manager to ever go unbeaten in a season and he's not a premier league legend? The greatest manager ever said that achievement tops the utd treble himself. So No there's no debate my man.
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