Art of the Throwing Stick- Tom Brown III

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@preparedsurvivalist2245
@preparedsurvivalist2245 9 жыл бұрын
The discussion part of this is not only to explain the individual details of the technique, but also the philosophy behind it. Anyone can tell you to stand at an angle and throw a stick sidearm style. But understanding animal behavior and the physics of the stick and body motion is very important.
@sigma3survivalschool
@sigma3survivalschool 12 жыл бұрын
its easy once you get the training. After about 3 hours practice most of my students can hit about 7 out of 10
@StephenCooteNZ
@StephenCooteNZ 13 жыл бұрын
Very impressive. Thanks for the online coaching session. I must make the effort to do some serious practice. The main trouble I anticipate is that whenever I throw a stick, the dog thinks I'm doing it for her benefit, and instead of dropping it at my feet she likes to tease me and run away. But this system of hunting is ideal for the area in which I live because there are too many people and pets around for guns or snares, and we have a few rabbits hanging about. Great video thanks.
@sigma3survivalschool
@sigma3survivalschool 12 жыл бұрын
@s6y9l there are 5 main styles of throwing the throwing stick and each one is used for a different situation. Game size, proximity, animal alertness, etc. This video clip was taken during instructional class and the demonstrations don't necessarily represent the exact throw he talked about because there are several throws not covered in this video.
@roccospinelli4910
@roccospinelli4910 8 жыл бұрын
Remember he's teaching students that is why he's so detailed, I trained there and practiced for hours after he finished, What teacher just let's you do without a full in detail teaching?
@Throwsticks
@Throwsticks 7 жыл бұрын
This is the best and most informative video on the topic of hunting with a common non-airfoil throwstick that I have seen on youtube. Great work guys!
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 9 жыл бұрын
It's an honor to watch a video by you. Throwing stick over bow in an eat or starve situation? Aside from the technical aspects of crafting actual effective archery equipment (anyone that could do that probably wouldn't get lost for days), the people who say bows are more kind never watched a deer hit with an arrow in the lungs drown in his or her own blood. It's not instant. Hit a rabbit with a stick? They sometimes die instantly and if not, they can be clubbed and dispatched quicker than the deer hit with an arrow. I'm not anti hunting, I actually used to hunt with bows and arrows I make (before Sasha.. a deer that I made friends with).
@cavemanjoe7972
@cavemanjoe7972 6 жыл бұрын
The general rule is: Throwing stick or rocks, first thing. Small game (about up to raccoon size) is much more abundant. A throwing stick is very fast to make, and can then be carried with you while gathering fire building and shelter materials for targets of opportunity. This allows you to gather things together while learning the area, finding hunting and trapping areas, and choosing a shelter site. A bow is a long-term project, better begun while you're already established in an area. Waiting awhile before starting to build one will also allow you to save materials for it as you progress. Gar scales, sinew, flint spalls, feathers, bones, shoots, reeds, or cane for arrows, and even the bowstave itself can be found, gathered, prepared, and stored as you come across them to be worked as you can until actually beginning the project. Other tools (adze, handaxe, flakes, bow brake) that can make the process go smoother can also be acquired or made during this time, as can other projects for living, such as bowls, baskets, mats, backrests, clay pots, drying racks for meat & herbs, metate for pounding meats & grains, utensils, packbaskets, traps, and cordage, to name a few. I know your comment is somewhat old, but I still felt it was due a good answer. Hopefully this will suffice.
@BeSatori
@BeSatori 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to explain the practice of how to use a throwing stick in actual hunting conditions, rather than just wing it out there like so many of the impatient people who think 10 minutes is too long to spend on learning a skill would have liked you to do. I'm sure they'll put in the hours you have practicing it well enough to bring home food too! None of them will be capable of stalking within range for that tool anyway so we probably don't have to worry too much about them abusing it, if they get around to making one.
@trosanelli
@trosanelli 11 жыл бұрын
Wow! I meant Tom Brown III 20 years ago at the Tracker School. He was a teenager then. He's all grown up now. I actually opened the video expecting to see the same kid I meet back then. LOL!
@sigma3survivalschool
@sigma3survivalschool 12 жыл бұрын
straight is best because curved can change trajectory and how it flies and also how much noise it makes in the air.
@whipartist455
@whipartist455 8 жыл бұрын
Really solid advice on this topic from someone who really knows how to stalk and hunt the old fashioned way before high powered rifles made hunting an easy game. Check out Tom Brown's other videos; they are equally informative. Aborigines in Australia were able to hunt Emu out to ranges of about 60 meters with large well tuned non returning boomerangs called alye or karli, depending on the language, Arrernte or Warlpiri. I'm crafting similar sticks myself, capable of straight throws to targets out to this range. The tuning was a difficult puzzle to solve but well worth the effort. They are instantly deployed from a shoulder carry situation during a slow stalk, and I'd estimate has enough force to break through a deer's legs.
@Nativesurvival
@Nativesurvival 13 жыл бұрын
Excellent, nice accuracy, that hip movement, and pivot on the ball of the back foot is very reminiscent of the technique Bruce Lee used as well.. Thanks for the upload TBIII is solid. -Mitch
@driver3899
@driver3899 6 жыл бұрын
Ok the 10 min wait was worth it, that's freaking impressive!
@sigma3survivalschool
@sigma3survivalschool 13 жыл бұрын
@REFIGUY69 Straight and smooth is essential for accuracy. A slight bend can cause the stick to fly through the air in a less straight line manner causing accuracy to be more difficult. Make them very smooth and very straight.
@sirstratocaster
@sirstratocaster 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It is so inspiring to see it done.
@Migillis
@Migillis 9 жыл бұрын
Damn, I just watched the stick tumbling through the air at first, but watching your movement the second time I can tell there is a lot of force being generated. You have a very serious follow through.
@MSTCND
@MSTCND 11 жыл бұрын
Great basic video, Brother! Thank you for the upload! ALWAYS good to have an Experts wisdom. PEACE!
@sigma3survivalschool
@sigma3survivalschool 12 жыл бұрын
yes and they take much longer to create, more time to master, and don't have the multiple uses a throwing stick has such as batoning.
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 Жыл бұрын
I read Tom Brown's books probably in the early 2000s - this is awesome to see his son in action. Actually I probably read the Tom brown books in the mid-90s? Yeah maybe around 93? thanks
@daboodeef179
@daboodeef179 12 жыл бұрын
That throw you did in the beginning was bad ass.
@ghoisc
@ghoisc 12 жыл бұрын
Not to mention he said to keep the outer hand close because it's like waving to the animal, but he stretches it out and waves it all the time.
@sammendocino2518
@sammendocino2518 10 жыл бұрын
Need to rename this the Art of the TALKING Stick. Throw comes at 10:00 mark .... and you're like, "huh ... that's IT??"
@jacobdavid5554
@jacobdavid5554 10 жыл бұрын
tbh honest the stance is key that's why you wouldn't hit any game he was mainly trying to show you how not to spoke it
@waltergigandet6715
@waltergigandet6715 4 ай бұрын
Nicely done T3❤️
@TomBrownIII
@TomBrownIII 10 жыл бұрын
The reason to use a throwing stick over a bow is simple- It takes a lot less time to create a viable throwing stick versus a bow when you are by yourself in a survival situation. In an emergency a person would not have time to make a bow, especially without modern tools. A person practiced in full survival will know that a well made throwing stick and the technique to use it are a basic skill for small game. With advanced skills a hunter can take larger than small game. This is a quote from the journal of a Spanish explorer in California during the 16th century: "A type a club, in the shape of a well balanced cutlass which they use in war, but also in the hunting of Hares, Deer, Antelope, and Coyote throwing so far and with such aim they rarely fail to break the bones of animals that come into range". The book is titled Survival Skills of Native California by Paul Campbell.
@BeSatori
@BeSatori 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great instruction Tom. I appreciate it a lot. It's particularly useful where I live, we have a non-native species of rabbit here (from Norway) and very few natural predators, since any of the larger ones were hunted off the island. The rabbits are over-running the island, stripping it of vegetation in places. The rabbits are somewhat naive because nothing hunts them. Except me :) I've taken quite a few with my bow and they are delicious, but I seldom bother to string up my bow for simple walks and trips to the mailbox and often come within throwing stick range. I think another advantage of the throwing stick over most other projectiles is the fact that it has a wide swath as it rotates through the air, as opposed to just a single point that must hit the animal. I will have to make a target and start practicing. Maybe a grain sack full of wood chips would hold up to the abuse and I could hang it so I needn't have to re set it up after every strike.
@rickywhite7578
@rickywhite7578 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome throws. I plan on trying this method of small game hunting. I know It will take alot of practice till I can get my hand eye coordination in sinc
@WhiteorBlacq
@WhiteorBlacq 11 жыл бұрын
I would love to know how Tom's shoulder is holding up after the years of practice and use. I noticed him wincing a bit near the end. Im very keen on putting in the time for this essential hunting technique, but Id like to have a realistic idea of the reprocussions. I don't t think this is meant to be a stand alone hunting technique, hehe.
@BeSatori
@BeSatori 6 жыл бұрын
Do other exercises that balance the shoulder muscles and you should be good with doing this indefinitely.
@Ratd0g28
@Ratd0g28 12 жыл бұрын
Great throwing with that rabbit stick. Native Americans, among others, were deadly with those things. Do you ever take game with a sling? Native Americans used to use those as well. More powerful than a throwing stick, though takes a lot of practice to gain accuracy.
@BlurpAnimations
@BlurpAnimations 7 жыл бұрын
wow. you can really throw a stick. i cant believe in saying this for a stick but, that is amazing.
@cujomojo
@cujomojo 4 жыл бұрын
Torn Rotator Cuff at 11:10, but we're eating Rabbit tonight.
@moondog50002000
@moondog50002000 11 жыл бұрын
Now I know how my dog feels..."throw the damn stick already" lol
@eqlzr2
@eqlzr2 5 жыл бұрын
Get stick. Find game. Throw stick. Get paid.
@impermanenthuman8427
@impermanenthuman8427 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome accuracy and speed!Would you use this same throwing method if you had to hunt with a tomahawk?Thanks
@beaugearing38
@beaugearing38 2 жыл бұрын
cool beans, the boomerang has a better stick design than the baton your using but thats some impressive raw skill
@MrBradWi
@MrBradWi 9 жыл бұрын
Interesting how natural it was for the stick to creep up to the shoulder like a baseball bat instead of staying low to the waist.
@Ratd0g28
@Ratd0g28 11 жыл бұрын
For any thrown weapon there are correct, safe ways and incorrect ways which will inevitably lead to injury. You just need to experiment until you find a throwing style that works without causing injury.
@nickdicresce6406
@nickdicresce6406 10 жыл бұрын
Great throwing T3.
@trosanelli
@trosanelli 11 жыл бұрын
Also, you can practice Kali weapons training with the throwing stick!
@dshojaei
@dshojaei 12 жыл бұрын
You can tell the other guys in the video including the camera man really want to be in the shots. It's pretty annoying. You can here the Camera man trying to be funny by whispering over the instructor. >.> Besides that, awesome video! Thanks!
@sigma3survivalschool
@sigma3survivalschool 12 жыл бұрын
there is a technique. I will teach it to you.
@ESAPOWER
@ESAPOWER 11 жыл бұрын
Plus a broken boomerang is useless. A broken throwing stick becomes two anchor-points for snares!
@LethalJawz
@LethalJawz 11 жыл бұрын
you should make the stick longer than he says because of a law called "the turning effect", its when the longer the stick its the more force it will have when it hits. E.G when have you ever seen a small crowbar or how hard is it to use a small spanner than a big one. thats why axes are better than hatchets( along with the bigger head and using two hands) :)
@BeSatori
@BeSatori 6 жыл бұрын
A longer stick with more rotational force will lose forward momentum much faster and eat up any of the benefit you mentioned. Not to mention be too large to travel through the brush without glancing off vegetation.
@ojmartin33
@ojmartin33 12 жыл бұрын
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@Greenriver842
@Greenriver842 12 жыл бұрын
What you think about throw any stick?, i mean iregular shape it works?
@REFIGUY69
@REFIGUY69 13 жыл бұрын
some say the sticks are to be straight while others say it needs to have a natural bend in it less than 45 degrees but boomerang style????? all other sizes and length pretty much the same
@rsj9701
@rsj9701 8 жыл бұрын
No stick throwing..?
@mnight207
@mnight207 11 жыл бұрын
Dudes got mad skill. He should have played the part of Rick on The Walking Dead instead of Andrew Lincoln
@FlookNock
@FlookNock 11 жыл бұрын
should i use a dense wood or light?
@Paraprax
@Paraprax 8 жыл бұрын
FYI, he actually throws it at the 10:00 minute mark
@craigtheschmeg3253
@craigtheschmeg3253 7 жыл бұрын
and missed?.....
@Engergy4
@Engergy4 13 жыл бұрын
my friend is 10 years old and he used javelin throw tehnique and he throwed 37meters
@sigma3survivalschool
@sigma3survivalschool 11 жыл бұрын
dense
@WhatUpMyNinja
@WhatUpMyNinja 11 жыл бұрын
Now let's try with an Axe!!!
@davejan744
@davejan744 6 жыл бұрын
The thrown shoulder is from tooo much force. I have the same problem w my slings & using rocks that are too big. Lots of G forces at work there bro. I have no doubt youve taken down deer by skull crushing w your sticks. Done the same w my sling.
@ThePioneerChannel
@ThePioneerChannel 9 жыл бұрын
I thought there was 5 types of throws he said lol
@ProjektBushcraft
@ProjektBushcraft 11 жыл бұрын
The technique is very interesting, but all the disadvantages of this tool will remain - short range, low power. I've never been 6m from deer.
@BeSatori
@BeSatori 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe you have other skills to practice too then, like stalking, or just moving less noisily. This is a wonderful tool for taking small game, and possibly even water fowl from a pond. I would hesitate to use this on a deer as even a deer with a broken leg will out distance a man who doesn't have another means to dispatch it quickly.
@formdoggie5
@formdoggie5 11 жыл бұрын
This is more likely to break a neck than a double lung-shot and I think you're severely discounting how much mass one of these has over an arrow, meaning that even the blunt trauma on a bad hit will be much more likely to instantly kill small game than a bad hit with an arrow. Further, you condoning it has nothing to do with survival, so you're taking it completely out of context.
@MylesNicholas
@MylesNicholas 9 жыл бұрын
Hope this gives you some new ideas about throwing clubs/sticks that take down any sized game. onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1525/aa.1936.38.1.02a00080/pdf Even an adze will be better, a rock attached will be a benefit.
@Dan_Dee
@Dan_Dee 9 жыл бұрын
10 mins of no stick throwing, last min stick thrown gg waste of time.
@Hutzjohn
@Hutzjohn 12 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice that in the instructions he said to have the stick at waist level then when he actually threw the stick he had it on top of his shoulder? Look at 10min 32sec. He seems to know his stuff but he is very irritating to watch.
@patrickmcgovern809
@patrickmcgovern809 10 жыл бұрын
Less talky, more throwey
@knight3276
@knight3276 10 жыл бұрын
OMG .less talk more throwing.
@teqfrog
@teqfrog 12 жыл бұрын
for once I would like to see one of these guys actually kill something. None of these guys would last 2 weeks in the wild.
@waiting2lose302
@waiting2lose302 11 жыл бұрын
This dude took way too long to explain wind up is not needed, standing sideways makes its minimally harder for the animal to pick you out, and to throw the stick in the form that you would to skip stones.
@joseruiz5518
@joseruiz5518 6 жыл бұрын
OMG I fell asleep did he event trow the fuckin stick?
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