Artie Lange Explains The Key to the AA 12 Step Program | Joe Rogan

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[@mtadams2009]

In 1992 I entered the rooms out of desperation. I never knew it would be the smartest and most life changing decision I ever made. When I read the steps they did not really make sense to me but someone much wiser and healthier than I told me you really have to work them. AA is truly a great program- family and has given me everything I have today. It works if you work it.

[@jfox11000]

Awesome gonna give it a shot I think

[@carterhutchison7211]

@@jfox11000 it was the best decision I’ve made to this day. Been sober almost two years now. Got sober at 25 years old and wish I had got here sooner. Thank you AA

[@vw7391]

16 yrs sober never regretted a day of it. Thank you Bill and Bob.

[@RADASSJOE]

@@jfox11000 Share your experience please

[@troyhbk]

@@RADASSJOE ya but it only works for like 1 outve 15 people...but it's the best thing going. People have dual diagnosis's and aa refuses to believe in that, they think it can all be solved by aa and your "higher power", tough when you know that there isnt a god, period. Ill never believe in god.

[@jaye8872]

It saved my life , I celebrate 22 years this year.

[@sissyofFreemont]

Congrats, love. Its an amazing accomplishment!!!

[@scottrobertson7949]

It works if you work it . One day at a time 💯

[@jfox11000]

Damn

[@prosandconsfilms6933]

God bless

[@bmanrandom893]

That's amazing. I want to be able to say that one day. I've been struggling again. I think I get to complacent. Would love to hear some advice that helped you

[@bethnolastname]

Sober and thriving 45 years. AA works. The 12 steps lead one to the joy of living.

[@sayitdontsprayit9325]

I've tried getting clean on my own probably, no joke, over 100 times. As of recently - I joined AA (and i'm not even an alcoholic I'm more of an addict) and all the sudden I have people texting me every single day - and I'm going and seeing the same faces and its truly infectious - and a great feeling. On day 5 right now. Woke up feeling positive. If you're reading this - and struggling - please join the program. At least give it a shot. I slept like a baby for the first time in awhile last night.

[@franciscoz3681]

The substance is irrelevant as that is only a symptom of your disease

[@damianhernandez188]

Good to hear AA had that impact on you. Just you talking about your experience in AA helps soo many people who think are doomed. Keep up the great work champ 🙏🏽

[@RaymondRAYCE]

How's it going?

[@kirkgriffin7900]

I grew up drinking at a young age that I turn to drugs for 37 years. Alcoholics Anonymous has the highest recovery out of all the sister groups that came off of that. When someone shares I make it fit from my addiction and my own life and I just celebrated 38 months of recovery

[@Soberwithswag]

awesome🙏

[@mikelfc12]

Almost 7 years! Thanks to AA and having done the first nine steps practicing step 10 11 12 on a daily basis!

[@Thetherapist78]

17 years sober. 9/26/2003. Thank you AA. Forever grateful!

[@donnelcrunk2122]

quitter

[@midsummersnight3848]

Congratulations. That is an incredible accomplishment! Oh and screw that guy ^ Moron.

[@Thetherapist78]

Thank you so much! I don’t take offense. That’s right. I am a quitter. I wasn’t ready to die yet. Best choice I ever made in my life. Let other people drink. I used all mine up.

[@foixjonwilliamson]

Proud

[@rayfran06]

Hey! Your sober date is my sober date 19 years later! Congratulations on all your success with sobriety!

[@mikeglynn5824]

Tomorrow 4/27 will be 25 yrs!! When I went to my 1st meeting a guy w many yrs under his belt said keep coming u will live a life u never dreamed of! He was absolutely correct! Best to all of u that are sober or trying to get there! God Bless

[@jfox11000]

Love this

[@HNunyabusiness]

Thanks. I’m in a desperate situation. I’ve tried AA before and gave up but my mom is heartbroken that her son is going to die if nothing is done. So I’m trying again. Will hit a meeting in my day off. I work 12.5 hours a day. Only have 10 hours of sobriety so far but it’s a start.

[@mikeglynn5824]

@@HNunyabusiness hey when your an alcoholic busy is good!! Keep pounding the meetings stay away from so called friends and take it hour by hour day by day! Trust me it gets better everyday!! God Bless

[@darrenbennion6086]

Artie nailed it. When you help someone you get a rush and if helps you. I sponsor many men and I go to detox every day for my spiritual rush. The maintenance of my spiritual condition keeps me sober and free from fear, depression, self pity, anxiety, resentment, foolish decisions, self centeredness and every negative emotional disturbance. But I have to keep doing it every day or it all comes back eventually.

[@darrenbennion6086]

@@alandoyle3442 what kind of a smart ass remark is that?

[@looneydad0826]

Thank you both for doing this podcast. I'm a recovering alcoholic, sober 17 1/2 years, and I still find strength and hope in hearing people's recovery stories. Love and prayers to you, Artie!!!

[@looneydad0826]

@Anti-Federalist 1776 there's always an asshole

[@Incomudro1963]

If you've been sober for nearly 20 years, why do you consider yourself to be recovering?

[@looneydad0826]

@@Incomudro1963 An addict is never cured of their addiction. I still have cravings for alcohol every day. I know people who have relapsed after 20 years. An alcoholic can stop drinking and instead become addicted to prescription drugs, gambling, sex, food, exercise, etc.

[@imcoleyourenot8391]

looneydad0826 why is he an asshole?

[@SinMore]

@@looneydad0826 you still have cravings? THAT there is proof that AA does not work. The disease model of addiction is not scientifically valid.

[@Coorsgood10]

His gift is storytelling. He's so natural at it

[@idontwantahandle510]

By story telling do you mean lying?

[@VinnyLations]

@@idontwantahandle510 Who cares under what context it is. Did you enjoy the story?

[@jannorris4140]

@@idontwantahandle510 Whats he lying about?

[@colleenshea2293]

The spirit of generosity is one of the most wonderful things I have witnessed in action.

[@deadskunk8733]

9/3/1992 . I’ve been sober since then and I still go to four meetings a week and also take AA into a rehab once a week. Going to the rehab and spreading the message is the most rewarding thing I’ve ever done in my life.

[@dukethedumpsterofficial8689]

I am really glad to see Artie so invested in recovery. I never thought I would see the day.

[@aaronosborne9719]

Duke!!

[@cherobinson6371]

Why is it that 12 Step people think recovery is AA and NA. My way or No Way…. 5% in recovery use Step-the Majority? don’t . Yet? If u listen too Steppers they act as of Recovery = Step and Step Only ( My Way or No Way) Narcissistic much???

[@christrudell7966]

When you help others you help yourself. 100 percent true.

[@alexmancinas4145]

Artie looks so healthy... I'm sure everyone who knows him is so proud of him..

[@travisrowe7697]

Alex Mancinas his eyes are so clear, it’s like a different person

[@travissimms544]

Don't worry he'll be arrested for buying heroin again real soon.

[@travisrowe7697]

Travis Simms very possible. Hopefully not though. He seems to be in a good place.

[@alexmancinas4145]

Hey. Lol. It's like having a good travis and a bad travis.

[@theshadowfax239]

THAT looks healthy?? Yikes, the bar is set really low.

[@dr.christopherdiaz4473]

Some people are so poor all they have is money.

[@atx-insider9055]

Deep bro

[@thecorndoghero7329]

Fml, now I have to rewrite that song I thought was original

[@jonathanallen9596]

I wish they would help me help them

[@sonnylambert4893]

Killer comment dude!!!

[@jonnyhatter35]

that's an awesome statement. thank you.

[@loganwyatt8757]

My life has gotten so much better due to the spiritual program of action I learned through the rooms of AA

[@JohnDangerKeenan]

11 years thanks to the big homies Bill W and Dr Bob

[@ChrisJohnson-ld3wq]

I got nearly 4 thanks to them and Jimmy K

[@bitterspice5525]

In and out of the rooms for 28 years. Got 8 months now and it feels great. Gonna stick and stay one day at a time.

[@JohnnyNada]

Keep it up.. I'm working on it myself

[@garyevans3421]

As the child of an alcoholic, I know the power of a fellow alcoholic to influence others. My dad had several 8 and 9 year stretches of sobriety. I learned it was useless to try to have a productive talk when they’re drunk. Once when he was sober, I asked him why he would take that first drink knowing where it would lead. His answer to me was “you wouldn’t understand.” Well, probably not, but I wish he tried. Anyway, I think an addict really only trusts someone who has walked a similar path, so they are the ones who can truly help others.

[@deathninja16]

Say "try me?" I'm an open ear.

[@flirtyflo6216]

I can only speak for myself but it's like I get possessed with an intense urge to drink. It dominates me physically and mentally. I'm completely sober and happy, feeling wonderful then the urge comes from nowhere and I say to myself why would I do that,it's going to make me feel terrible then I give in and sure enough I feel like crap especially the next day but I also deal with suicidal thoughts so sometimes I drink or smoke weed so I don't kill myself

[@innerlightmarbellamauri4730]

Celebrated 8 years on the 5th September thanks to the 12 Step program, I love AA!

[@edwardcurrier7366]

I love to see so many clean and sober people commenting, warms my heart and proves 12 steps works.

[@yoitsdan]

We need more Artie on the JRE. He is uniquely entertaining, and Joe really brings the absolute best out of Artie.

[@rafamorales8713]

I'm very thankful to the founders of A.A. and the people who still carry the message.

[@cherobinson6371]

Bill W used Harm Reduction to as he put it End his Alcoholism. Bill used LSD Therapy

[@robpetrone2459]

Artie Lang never looked better or put forth a better version of himself in a public forum. God bless him. I am so happy that he has recovered so brilliantly.

[@Sutterjack]

26 years sober here - AA gets a lot of flack but it's FREE and it has a proven track record. Even AA has a motto "take what you can use and leave the rest". It ain't the only way to get or stay sober, but I learned a hell of a lot from it and met a lot of good people. They teach a lot of good fundamentals for sound mental health whether you're a alcoholic or not. Also there's a strength in admitting you have a problem and need help. I found it refreshing very little racism in AA - when you're all dealing with a common enemy people care very little about the color of your skin.

[@brandonfiore8982]

I gave them a dollar today.

[@Sutterjack]

@@alandoyle3442 Addiction ain't free either - incredible waste of time, energy, self-respect, physical health and resources - ultimate poverty.

[@shadowprince4482]

It's track record is the same as just trying to quit on your own.

[@michaelciocca216]

What’s hard is not letting yourself be influenced by the things you don’t need. Addicts are easily influenced and I think at times A.A can lead to an obsession to A.A and constantly “living in your own head”

[@shadowprince4482]

@@michaelciocca216 Ironically I've seen many people get addicted to AA. My biggest issue with AA is how much it gets pushed by medical professionals and even law enforcement. It works for some but for everybody else, which is most people, it usually makes the person want to drink more.

[@ladysmith7747]

I have gone to Al Anon for many twenty years, I experience it as a pathway to higher consciousness. I have learned to navigate calmly through many storms. What brought me to those rooms was heartbreaking but I needed to break in order to open up to growth.

[@garyaanderson214]

I am with You I was broken and didn't know how bad until I got to alanon 13 years ago

[@malcontent7976]

Have absolutely no idea how this guy is still alive and neither does he

[@johnblaze5252]

Malcontent yeah he knows & anyone in recovery knows. The therapeutic value of one addict helping another is beyond parallel. It’s called the ultimate weapon. The saving part is out of his hands & in the hands of a power greater than his.

[@shaundavey9703]

Malcontent -Well if you have no idea about something and neither does he and he's clearly a recent sobriety ra ra convert spruiking the American born AA cult , it's most probably just a regular miracle.......

[@johnblaze5252]

Shaun Davey it’s only a cult if you make it one. If it didn’t work for you ask yourself why. He can go return to the life he lived any moment he wants. People do recover from all types of hardships. Unfortunately ignorance & fear of change takes a bit longer for some more than others.Passing judgments on others from ivory towers makes the splat on the way down to the gutter no less righteous or painless. We all have a free will & only he knows when he had enough misery to stop hurting himself.

[@johnblaze5252]

ShinRaPresident No you are not only an anti “God” zealot you are uneducated on the subject. Unlike a cult you are entirely free to come & go as you please. As far as being mandated by any municipal government to attend well that’s probably a lesser evil than being publicly stoned or flogged. Here is the part where you need to pay attention addicts & alcoholics have a nonstop vacuum that will consume everything they have. Here’s how they change that if they are lucky enough.. they fill that vacuum with a “higher power “. In the basic text they said “God” because that is who they chose. This is a life & death matter & there are people who die because they get stuck on a word. As far as your knowledge of the 12 steps & the First Amendment you do not get the luxury or privilege to interpret their meaning @ your convenience. You also have no right to call something you don’t believe in as a cult it just makes you more of a zealot. Personally I haven’t been to a meeting in 25 years. I took what I needed & left the rest behind. However it worked for me & my life is blessed in spite of myself. The “God” part is a personal thing. To each his own. To ridicule & despise is not the work of God . You know who’s work that is . Don’t you?

[@johnblaze5252]

ShinRaPresident you are a jilted religiously biased zealot who hates the fact that human beings can save themselves outside your limited understandings of the universe. If you have a problem being forced to pay a debt to society by a jury of your peers that’s on you. Lie to yourself & continue on your course if you wish. You need to understand the addicted have 3 options jails , institutions & death. Pay your debt to society & move on with your life. Trying to intellectualize your way out of your bad behavior is child’s play in a an adults world. Peoples lives are at stake & you act the fool & will always be a charlatan in a place where miracles happen all the time. To quote an an old verse from a song from my youth “ for those who are successful be always on your guard ... success walks hand in hand with failure down Hollywood Boulevard”. Yeah I remember when I had my first beer.

[@RamnaViaz]

AA is basically a way to get selfish people to start doing something for others and get out of their own heads for once, to talk to others instead of just talking to themselves about themselves, in an endless ramble of guilt and pain that they grow addicted to, even more than to the alcohol itself; that deep selfish sadness is extremely addictive, call it whatever you like, victim mentality, trauma, failed hero complex, it all just boils down to selfishness and sadness, and the way you fight it is by talking and sharing with others that know.

[@kdish8506]

Fully disagree

[@trespasscomplex]

this is cynical but not really false

[@brucebrown1328]

May I shine light on what he said about the 12 th step. “There are 11 steps to do prior to 12. You can be useful to others along the way but it doesn’t replace the first 11.

[@minkminky]

Sober Artie has such eloquent and dainty hands.

[@williamshaw9047]

That's why he never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

[@bitterspice5525]

I noticed that too 😆

[@richardkelbie7726]

Hands that have never worked a real job in his life

[@davidjensen2411]

It's called: Paying it forward.

[@richardmartinez3254]

I spent the last 37 years of my life in the rooms of Alcoholics Anonymous. I have been sober for 25 of those years 1998 is the last time I took a drink. The truth is nobody I ever sponsored stayed sober. But I've had 25 years of continuous sobriety by the grace of God hang in there Artie !

[@AlejandroRamos-kn5cd]

I had to learn the hard way. Prison gave me that sense of clarity/ spiritual awakening I had to gain in the worst way. Everything that I bitched about was peanuts to the first layer in hell

[@trespasscomplex]

@@AlejandroRamos-kn5cd yup

[@MauriceFrison]

I just made 24 hours sober send prayers to me and my family you guys and I pray God continues to keep you and yours in his mercy and grace 🙏🏾

[@trespasscomplex]

Sending love, how are you getting on?

[@ianmacrae4963]

Thanks Joe, you are a good person............could have done without the move to Spotify but we get it.

[@David-eu1ms]

Bill Wilson who founded AA wanted LSD to be the very first step in a thirteen step program, he said people needed the LSD to find their higher power, but somehow we've disregarded the first and most important step in the program.

[@kestrel1234]

Thank God for the group conscience.

[@Anita_Backrub]

😂

[@brendananderson9526]

If it wasn't for psylicibin I wouldn't have any concept of a higher power. A.A can be a little too conservative sometimes. I'll mention that and they will be like "it's a mind altering chemical it's not sober!" Same people are also on antidepressants or some other shit. I have a friend who shoots dope. I hung out and read the big book to him. He smoked weed. I didn't care. At least he's not injecting poison. If you aren't ruining your life with harmful drugs and alcohol and every now and then u take a lil trip with the intent of having more contact with a higher power of your consciousness then so be it. I'm all for it.

[@jayduke3373]

them mentioning Joan Rivers makes me sad Joe never got to have her on cause that would have been a great one......

[@mickdavis2385]

@jay Welp looks like my comment about that got deleted. I wrote the same thing. She exposed Michael Obama as a tranny

[@bettyherbert9399]

I also am a miracle.. September 21 2019 i had my last drink.. The program has given me a purpose and I appreciate the predecessors that brouvht the message to me

[@bobbycecere1037]

Yes he nailed one of the key components of twelfth step recovery. SERVICE! But it is only ONE part. The others are just as foundational. In fact, unless you apply the others first, you won't even make it to service. Just keep that in mind.

[@Gnarkilla720]

I wish it was that easy. Love the positive message for sure, but if been through aa a ton, it can also hurt. It's not for everyone, n I wish it worked that way these days.

[@jjoneshauling6104]

Artie lang comedic genius 1 of the greats of all times back better than ever

[@gutsfiend6678]

Look I like Artie but he’s not even in the top 25 lol

[@theflood24]

I kicked methadone about 8 months ago. It was hell. Literally weeks of agony. I would watch people talk about sobriety and hate them for being sober. But once you get clean, the world is a happy place again.

[@ericnelson5321]

As a drug addict and atheist I don’t subscribe to AA or NA but I have seen it change lives. I would recommend and explain it to anyone who is trying to end the circus of addiction. Proud of you Artie, keep it up!

[@salvatorecuccio7793]

As an alcoholic and atheist I didn’t subscribe to AA or NA either. As a recovering alcoholic and an atheist AA saved my life. You better subscribe to something before it’s too late. Fellowship does not require a belief in theism. It requires a belief in fellowship. Your higher power exists you just have to pick something bigger than you and put your faith in that. For me it’s my brother & sister recovering addict/alcoholics. Fake it till you make it or die. That’s the choice.

[@salvatorecuccio7793]

sayvar44 in my experience people who say that are missing the point of the 12 steps. It works for everyone who wants it to work. So if you’re an addict or alcoholic and it didn’t work for you then the problem isn’t NA or AA. Look in the mirror and the reason it doesn’t work is staring at you. It wont work for you until you work for it.

[@salvatorecuccio7793]

sayvar44 totally agree on your higher power points.

[@salvatorecuccio7793]

ShinRaPresident I was an atheist when I went to my first AA meeting 18 months ago and as of 8 am this morning when I was leaving my most recent AA meeting I was still an atheist. Yes the word God does appear in AA literature. However this statement also appears in AA literature. “The only requirement for A.A. membership is a desire to stop drinking.” It doesn’t get any clearer than this. If you meet this one requirement your welcome to attend meetings and take from them what works for you. I’ve been to meetings in several states over the last 18 months and religion has never been forced on me in any of these places. Probably half of the people in my home group are also atheists. We don’t go to meeting to talk about atheism and our religious brothers and sisters don’t go to talk about God. We all go to talk about staying sober and to help each other in accomplishing this goal. If you’re not an alcoholic then you’ll never understand what’s really going on at AA. If you are then get yourself to a meeting and find a sponsor.

[@salvatorecuccio7793]

ShinRaPresident are you an alcoholic/addict? If you are then go to a meeting and see for yourself. It’s not an anecdote when I show you the word for word quote from the same AA literature your argument it hanging on that says there’s one requirement for membership except a desire to quit drinking. How about this anecdote taken from the official AA site which means it’s endorsed by AA officially. You’d think a group that requires you to believe in God for it to work wouldn’t endorse, publish, and give away for free a 24 page book written by its atheist and agnostic members. This is not anecdotal. This is hard data. Go read it. If your a sick and suffering alcoholic/addict it might save your life. www.aa.org/assets/en_US/p-86_theGodWord.pdf

[@jhgfdsertuiokjhg]

Artie is truly great on air sober and clean.He doesn’t need any substance to be funny, interesting, and entertaining.

[@waylonhyde8353]

Just celebrated 18 months sober best 18 months of my life thankful to this program and my Higher Power

[@architectinth]

Let's give it up for Artie Lange. He's genuinely an intelligent guy. Crazy as fuck, but very thoughtful and insightful.

[@Craig-uh4cg]

2 years sober!

[@josephbyrd553]

Gratitude is the key

[@greggvenenga8219]

Keep it up Artie!! You've never sounded better!

[@ginnyangushall7354]

Al-Anon for 35 years - love the AA's and Al-Anon❤❤❤❤❤

[@hippiecheezburger5457]

I think alcohol is even more addicting than nicotine, it’s harder for me to imagine a life where I will never have a drink again. It’s also crazy how people can’t really be out and open when on late night television. Twisted ass world

[@dashboardf9661]

AA gave me an amazing life! One day at a time!

[@Harold.Richard]

One day at a time.

[@st8tch790]

Off the bat I love this guys gestures, flow and pacing

[@ucookin]

glad to hear him so coherent

[@trjb1767]

He is very coherent.

[@trjb1767]

Articulate

[@ohio_dino]

The doctor and lawyer who founded aa also used lsd in their therapy but no one talks about that

[@hodlwise2470]

@Bill Ding a part*

[@kazkazimierz1742]

There's lots that is rarely talked about. E.g that Bill Wilson chased women at every opportunity. that a number of the people whose stories appear at the back fell off the wagon.

[@lundbergdrums6642]

Steve Jobs also used lsd and got his ideas for the mac and the iphone and other stuff so maybe it’s no the end of the world if smart people use it

[@ohio_dino]

@@lundbergdrums6642 he stole those from others while on lsd . Different situation

[@dannowestiedanflarty6990]

Been in aa 10 years and I have had half of that without a drink due to my relapsing... I believe if be dead or very ill left to my own devices... It never gets better... 🙏🏻

[@IdealX-fr4eg]

AA saved my life as well always grateful to Bill W and Dr. Bob..

[@AndrewReevesArt]

Five years in AA, fifteen in AL-Anon and soooo grateful to be back with the Lord, God bless! ✝️

[@Westlondon122]

A helps b and a stays clean ❤

[@deejaychi3443]

It worked for me in my own way. I don’t go to meetings anymore but I’ll take a alcoholic to a meeting any day. All a meeting takes is two drinks sitting down, talking, and not drinking.

[@hodlwise2470]

It takes two drinks sitting down...not drinking? I think you need to check your syntax, you must really want a drink since you replaced the word "guys" with "drinks" Nice Freudian slip...

[@justinhawkins6439]

@@hodlwise2470 he obviously meant *drunks

[@donnelcrunk2122]

yeah 2 drinks is all it takes for me as well, then all the sudden i feel better

[@marcntexas]

Glad he is well

[@andyb.1643]

Thirty three years, coming up. AA saved my life and gave me a completely new perception of things. One drunk helping another is the foundation of the program. It doesn’t always work for them, but it always worked for me. Covid nearly killed AA, but it’s coming back pretty well. A Higher Power is in charge.

[@dboyz7270]

I think comedians are funnier after they get clean because they have so much content and experiences to talk about . I’m in the program and I got to say as fucked up as the stories may sound it’s hilarious to us now that we reflect on the crazy shit us addicts use to do .

[@yslzaza6635]

This program will honestly save your life. I’ve Struggled with opiate addiction since I was 16 overdosing multiple times it’s kept me alive at this point. 11 days right now. It works if you work it honestly!

[@mikelfc12]

May 1, 2015 is sobriety date. I owe AA everything! Life is a blessing today

[@joshuachavis1060]

4YRS 2MONTHS 🙏🏽🙏🏽thanks to A/A.

[@genehall056]

In addition to the staying sober by helping and alcoholic, there is a component of being connected. recent studies support that as a component to long term sobriety. If you are a part of and not apart from, you reduce loneliness and you also have people to talk to about the crazy shit that is bouncing around in your head.

[@strangebrew1231]

The opposite of addiction is connection

[@that1guy567]

Thank you Artie

[@quincyseis813]

One day at a time dude! This is awesome. He explained it perfectly. It’s funny how joe is so intelligent but because he isn’t an addict doesn’t get it fully.

[@bdaquatics7584]

I was in recovery and I even became a councillor and I realized it's all a joke. It's insurance fraud at it's finest. People spend thousands of dollars to send their brat ass man childs to rehab for 30 days only to be told that you need a spiritual awakening and to find god? It's bullshit. Major bullshit. The people in the rooms are the fakest people I've ever met too. I was one of them until I realized it's all a sham. Get out dude. Man up and quit the junk

[@harageilucid4352]

Sounds like you were an employee at some ritzie inpatient facility. If you've ever been an actual addict then youd sure as fuck know that people dont free themselves from addiction with “man up and quit”. If that is the gist of your message then you dont know wtf youre talking about and should probably stfu.

[@mattb541]

@@bdaquatics7584 If you only became physically addicted to heroin you're not an addict-- you're just having a fairly normal reaction to that chemical. Addicts become physically AND mentally addicted.

[@derek9153]

TEXAS RIGGED I agree with some of what you’re saying, but it sure seems like a disease. If you have the time and are willing, can you explain how/why it is not a disease?

[@Swigg1337]

@@derek9153 Some people believe that calling it a disease shifts blame away from an addict. By believing it's a disease it gives the impression that it's not your actions but an outside influence therefore you cant help it. At the end of the day you choose to continue to be an addict. People are just too weak willed to stop. I'm not saying this is right or wrong but just a thing I see a lot.

[@tomriddle6375]

True words

[@pgs.lifestyle]

I have heard the story with the guy in the hospital drunk ward before somewhere, but I can’t remember where. Anyone know the original source ?

[@cameronangel1013]

AA works because it's busy work they keep you doing steps and then doing them over and over with others it's a really easy concept replace one thing with another.

[@goldsmithstudent]

Simple not easy

[@dahalofreeek]

I think what 12 steps does right is the sponsorship and doing your best to make amends with people you hurt. Most of the rest is creepy and culty. If it works for you, fantastic. But you do have power over substances and there is no God to admit all this bullshit to. It's the beautiful people in those communities that helps the addiction, THAT is the higher power. Work on your mental health through a bettering of your lifestyle and talk therapy. Work out a plan with a doctor to wean yourself off a substance safely. It's a long process and it never really stops but you are incredibly powerful and if you accept love and help from other people, you can overcome issues of mental health and addiction. Let's all help each other out from a place of extreme philanthropy and not this cynicism about how people with addictions are born sick and will never be well and need to make these self-flagellating declarations to get better.

[@Notmyrealname69420]

This sums it up perfectly. I find the powerlessness and disease concepts do alot more harm than good for most people and its why I haven’t done the 12 steps and probably never will. I feel very conflicted because the people I’ve met through treatment and the overall structure have helped me a lot but I really don’t buy in to the AA model. Only in 7 months I’ve seen a lot of people who have wanted to be completely clean a lot more than me go out and drink while I’m just trying to deal with my issues while putting the bare minimum into the program and I’m still clean even though I’m not sure I want to be abstinent forever. The community is great but the doctrine behind it is super fucked up, it’s crazy that this replaces real treatment a lot of not most of the time in North America.

[@lauriebx]

The problem with Artie's Gen is that they are all armchair quarterbacks. They can't even help themselves, but they seem to have all the answers and opinions when it comes to the younger generation. They are the brats and do-nothings left by the greatest generation who actually did it all.

[@joeyboes7771]

Holy shit you nailed it all, so many people in AA act like they know EVERYTHING

[@josemejia9349]

It seems like Artie figured it out

[@richardthomasmirabito4197]

The fellowship of AA is a God given gift. The story of AA is proof.

[@juansantana7041]

I click to watch and first thing that pops up is an add for miller lite. Goodbye alcoholic anonymous lol

[@DaveTomahawk]

That's evil KZbin running the ad

[@paularmstrong2020]

inmate # 1 movie. Danny Trejo story. He said everything good that happened in his life was a direct result of him helping someone else.

[@rulinghabs]

Read his books. Great insight to how he lead his life.

[@fzrdave0873]

Great stuff👍

[@StevenL-sv9pn]

AA helped me so much . I learned a lot service to other. . I made a lot of pots of coffee....

[@alexanderakerlund7267]

12 steps and 12 traditions this guy should read up on our eleventh tradition....

[@edwardfabela2200]

Thank you Joe for having Artie on your show. The Good Lord has blessed me with 17yr. One day at a time 😅. Vivat Jesus.

[@davidbarnes4742]

Good for him

[@jerrybobteasdale]

All my thumbs up. This helped some viewer.

[@rolkypaul123]

Joe is amazing!

[@tesstickles1280]

What the hell does Joe got going on behind him on that wall? Looks like some has some pressed jeans up there 🤨

[@travisrowe7697]

Tess Tickles denim is the future

[@Vir9il]

Sound-absorbing panels to improve the acoustics of the room. I.e. reduces echo.

[@vancey7604]

Vir9il We need that for this comment.

[@gtrriffs]

Legion of skanks helped joe out organizing a studio because he was in new york for ufc,etc

[@depressionbeard9882]

Tess Tickles it's to remember his hot pants collection from his flamboyant youth

[@davidgioia3388]

Helping others has spiritual rewards that the dictionary has no words that are adequate.

[@trespasscomplex]

AA saved my life - I'm almost 18 months sober

[@mattkeating9103]

Artie, I am proud of you.

[@donwilkinson6665]

Spot On !!

[@j.j.5731]

2 1/2 years sober. AA didn't work for me.

[@commonsense5062]

Until you help somebody, they screw you over and it makes you loose more hope for humanity and makes you not want to help people. Which makes you drink more to overcome. But the feeling of helping somebody actually gracious of your actions is a hugely great feeling which can keep you alive. But the feeling of betrayal and deceit is overcoming. Makes me want to worry about myself and myself alone. Which is a default of society that I can't stand

[@je25ff]

Artie's hand movements when he's talking into a mic hasn't changed.

[@joshuawilliams8523]

Saved my life thank you aa

[@earthling2007]

The key is don’t drink and go to meetings.

[@danashane]

and ask for help :)

[@guyemail6799]

In college I did a community project report on half way houses and AA...here's the thing...people who are trying to kick one addiction like alcohol for example...end up getting another addiction...so your off the alcohol but then you become addicted to coffee...or caffeine...you get off one addiction and go to another

[@willsl321]

Perhaps, but a caffeine addiction won’t make your wife leave you or cause you to crash into a minivan full of kids.

[@FermentedGrumpyGrapeSqueezit]

For some it works but there's a lot of us that viewed it as just another crutch. 13 years no trouble, no drugs, no meetings.

[@Peteyblinders]

They wanted to open for profit detox programs but they couldn’t get the funding and made aa for cheaper

[@BradleyPaulValentine]

Too bad Joe didn't have Rick Baker consult on fixing Artie's nose.

[@BeeAyeSueRah]

Solid joke!

[@BeeAyeSueRah]

@Mike Knight I'm with ya and I think if there were an audio optio, Artie would die laughing. Too good Mike!