5 Mistakes Everyone Makes Changing Sockets ❌

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@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Жыл бұрын
Hi all, hope you enjoyed our latest video. If you want to get your hands on some of the equipment we used during the video, then there is a few links in the description for you to go look at. 😎
@EXFElectrician
@EXFElectrician Жыл бұрын
@artisanelectrics I like your content. Just have a question on this video and some feedback. With how you have finished your safe isolation. Suggesting that you turn that circuit back on to prove your test equipment just after you have test for dead defeats the objective of proving dead. If using a know source to prove your test equipment you should be using a different source/ circuit. Hope that makes sense.
@MarkyB69
@MarkyB69 Жыл бұрын
Is there a maximum required permitted distance where a washing machine can be fitted next to a consumer unit ? Just asking as I want to do the same.
@bobcosgrove3235
@bobcosgrove3235 11 ай бұрын
Here in the United States all metal boxes need to be grounded you would say earthed and all ground leads need to be twisted together and crimped so they do not come apart.
@Wobbly-World
@Wobbly-World 3 ай бұрын
You may want to edit your video, to mention, that not earthing the metal type backing boxes can result in the fixing screws for the front plate becoming live, this is even more dangerous, if the front plate used is of the metal type, as the whole plate becomes live, and mere contact will result in potentially a lethal shock even with the protective RCB in circuit.!!!’ Stay safe out there, from a old long retired sparks, thanks for the video, people do stupid things and learn unfortunately their last lesson!!!’ It’s what the Darwin Award was created for!!’ ຈل͜ຈ .
@mikeflowerdew7877
@mikeflowerdew7877 9 ай бұрын
This is one of those rare videos that properly explains why, not just "because regs" or "that's how I was taught". Much more convincing imo to the casual DIYer who might otherwise be tempted to bodge it. Well done!
@timmymagic1000
@timmymagic1000 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love new builds .. the consumer unit next to the washing machine at the start of this video.. amazing!
@fus149hammer5
@fus149hammer5 Жыл бұрын
I did wonder about that too😂
@bexhillbob
@bexhillbob Жыл бұрын
Worse. CU next to the drain outlet. So if there's a blockage the CU is going to get very wet.
@mb106429
@mb106429 11 ай бұрын
Yep, and does that pass regs? Those pipes often crack and piss out
@droneandpix
@droneandpix 11 ай бұрын
That’s the first thing I thought 😂
@Station9.75
@Station9.75 10 ай бұрын
Bet the house cost £250,000 too.
@thfreakinacage
@thfreakinacage Жыл бұрын
I already like this video even only 10 seconds in! The attitude of "I know you'll do it anyway so here's the RIGHT way to do it." This is perfect! You'll never stop the DIYer from doing simple things like sockets so at least having good educational sources out there to try and keep them safe is a life saving thing!
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Жыл бұрын
We know people will do it anyway so we thought we would show people the safe way of doing it.
@Speeder84XL
@Speeder84XL Жыл бұрын
I really agree with that. At least where I live (in Sweden) way too many electricians have the attitude of "don't mess with your electrical installation your self or you will die or burn your house down" - and even some sellers in hardware stores refuse to answare questions about electrical work (even though you can buy all the stuff you need). That's because of our stupid laws. But many of us don't give shit about those and I also read that like 50% of house owners have in fact done electrical work that's not allowed anyway (because even simple things like connect a washing machine to screw terminals on the wall, requires an electrician to do legally here) and very few people get caught (and most of the cases where someone have been, it's almost always illegal paid work or if they have done a bad installation on someone elses property, that have caused a fire or a similar thing - which is a whole other thing). The other 50% is probably mostly people who really know nothing about electricity and would have an electrician do any work anyway. So this shows how dumb that attitude (and laws) is, as they will just contribute to making installations less safe than if information is spread how to do the work correctly.
@cuebj
@cuebj Жыл бұрын
​@@Speeder84XLHaving written negatively about most electricians I've used and positively about diligent by the book DiYers, I have to support the shop that won't give advice. There are books, regulations that can be downloaded, and good KZbin channels like this and effix. Shop is right to protect themselves from accusations of saying the wrong thing or someone doing wrong despite the correct thing they heard
@Speeder84XL
@Speeder84XL Жыл бұрын
@@cuebj That's true. I was refering to what I have seen in for example some chats and forums - things like "when I worked at a hardware store, I refused to answere any questions about electrical work as people shouldn't do that them self". Which sounds to me like those electricians. But, now when you say it - it's pretty obvious that the stores (and the companies running them) don't want to deal with someone doing bad work and blame it on them. Especially since out "electrical safety authority" (which is most likely heavily influenced by lobbyists from electric installation companies) have been on everyone selling electrical equipment already and forcing them to for example put up signs, "all electrical installations have to be done by an authorized electrician". So, if there is for example a fire and someone blames it on the advice they got in the store, they would in fact likely get sued for causing it, by helping unauthorized people do electrical installations.
@TestGearJunkie.
@TestGearJunkie. Жыл бұрын
​@@artisanelectrics I've been doing most of my own electrics since I was about 10. I'm now 68 and still alive with no more than a handful of belts to my name, so I must be doing something right. My father was an engineer and my next door neighbour when I was growing up was a sparky, so I picked up a lot. As my username suggests, I've always been fascinated by test equipment, and have amassed a fair bit over the years, including no less than three MFTs (Fluke 1664FC, Megger 1552 and 1741..!) I've also taught myself how to use them, so although I'm not qualified, I do feel I have some idea what I'm doing.
@michaelb9664
@michaelb9664 Жыл бұрын
Some nice tips. Interestingly as an industrial spark, I’ve often shuddered at the work of domestic sparks. I’ve lost count of how many socket faceplates I’ve removed to find either excessively short cables, loose terminals or both. The worst case I’ve come across was my parents shower installation. The shower had stopped working, when I investigated it for them the shower isolator was burnt out from a slack termination. It required a new switch and luckily in this case there was enough length to re strip some fresh copper. It’s a pity not all electricians are of the same good calibre.
@blow0me
@blow0me Жыл бұрын
shower pullcords etc are a nightmare, as is 10mm T&E. Never enough room in a single backbox really. Although T&E is a terrible cable choice too. SY cable far more suitable.
@ImranKhan-cf8gs
@ImranKhan-cf8gs Жыл бұрын
Great job sir professional
@zeldagoblin
@zeldagoblin 8 ай бұрын
The fella who previously owned our house had secured the earth in the socket terminal with filler.
@Muppetkeeper
@Muppetkeeper Жыл бұрын
I’m an electrical engineer. I have degrees and everything, I then followed on to do an apprenticeship in an electricity company. I would love to say all electricians are good, but in the three houses I have owned, I’ve found over 30 issues with the work “professional electricians” have done. From wiring extra sockets off a lighting circuit, to not bothering with earth connections onto metal light switches. It’s a shame no one can be trusted to do a safe job.
@HA05GER
@HA05GER Жыл бұрын
One thing I found in mine not really anything wrong I'm guess it's fine to bring wires through a joist but some of my light circuits come through the joist so if you want to fit a low profile light and need to pop a junction box up into the ceiling you can't. Pain in the arse as the one I was doing is right under the board for the old water tank somcant pull it up to then drop newmfeed down and can't really cut the ceiling as has asbestos artex.
@xxwookey
@xxwookey Жыл бұрын
@@HA05GER That asbestos artex is a right pain isn't it?
@david-iandawson
@david-iandawson Жыл бұрын
Such a stupid thing to say from an apprentice 'its a shame no one can be trusted to do a proper job'. Despite clearly having watched this video where t job is done properly u claim this - most bizarre. 🤦
@danieljadorie829
@danieljadorie829 Жыл бұрын
​@david-iandawson Well what do you expect when someone begins with "I'm an electrical engineer."? It doesn't matter which side of the Atlantic you're on, those idiots seem to think that carries weight to electricians in the field.
@david-iandawson
@david-iandawson Жыл бұрын
@@danieljadorie829 I totally agree. It's the arrogance that baffles me. To claim they know what they're 'talking about' shouts out to me their crappy character. Whilst moronic folk like this claim to be competent, u just know they'de sink at t first hurdle attempting to claim they can do t job of a qualified sparky who has experience. We must be on t same frequency - no pun intended 😁😂😂😂😂
@mlgboy1
@mlgboy1 Жыл бұрын
Great video and great tip on re-threading the lugs but please use the correct term for the problem which is "cross threaded" not "threaded"
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Жыл бұрын
Noted!
@davesharp7315
@davesharp7315 Жыл бұрын
Some good points there, in regards to depth of the back box, as an alternative you can get spacers to go around the socket, effectively making them sit proud, some might not be happy with the look but it's a definitive alternative to having to excavate another 10mm of depth into your brickwork.
@garypautard1069
@garypautard1069 Жыл бұрын
Yes Dave I am glad you mentioned the double socket spacer ,easily bought on Amzn. I am a retired electrician and I have some serious reservations about home owners working on wiring. I am sure a thousand sparks would agree that like me on removing sockets they have found often an amateur dangerous bodge-up mess. From incorrect under size cables and no grommets to multiple spurs taken off , broken ring circuits ( which an amateur would not look for) although Jordan has presented a clear informative vid the though of homeowners changing sockets makes my blood run cold.
@AbbieMarchant
@AbbieMarchant Жыл бұрын
@@garypautard1069 I couldn't agree more and it's not just the DIYers unfortunately. In a previous property that i lived in (for about 12 years), I was surprised at the number of junction boxes and also choc-block connection block "spurs" and joints. As it was a council house, i was fairly limited, but whenever contractors came in to do other work (such as adding central heating, new smoke/fire alarms, electric shower etc) I always managed to find and fix previous "bad practice" situations overnight while boards were raised and cables exposed. If/when contractors had boards up for access that exposed existing wiring, I'd ask them to just leave them up overnight seeing as they'd just need to lift them again the following day. Then I'd identify whole masses of spaghetti and various types of junction (often with no earth sleeving), as well as multiple spurs from a single box. Then I'd either reroute cables or replace whole sections to recreate a single ring without any junction boxes. Securing cables, adding sleeving and removing as much of the tangled spaghetti situation as possible. When the contractors completed their work, the test results were always better than the readings from before they started. There was only one thing that i missed, which was the pull switch for the shower. When they installed it, they siliconed the switch and i didn't want to break the seal. 18 months later, the shower stopped turning on, so i opened the switch and discovered badly charred wires, the live just slid straight out - obvious that the terminal hadn't been tightened, causing sparking every time the switch was used. There was so much damage inside the switch, molten plastic, black charred wires and contacts, it's a wonder that it hadn't caught fire. Even though there was plenty of space available in the attic directly over the switch, whichever electrician did the install, cut the wires extremely short. When i replaced the switch, i ended up moving it 6" closer to the bathroom door so that i could trim the burnt cable and have enough good/virgin wire to make good connections. (6 years later, when i moved out it was still in perfect condition).
@peterevans8194
@peterevans8194 Жыл бұрын
@@garypautard1069 Just been working on the electrics of my present house which dates back to the mid 80's and some of the original work done by so called professional electricians is shocking, excuse the pun. It's been the same in two other houses I have owned. Hopefully, standards are higher today, but sadley there are cowboys in all trades...There some jobs I am happy to do on electrics around the house, while there are others I prefer to call in a qualified spark...I have had quotes from one of two over the years that I have rejected because of the way they intended to do the job. I remember one who wanted to spur an outside light and an outside socket direct off the house lighting cct rather than put a separate cable back to the consumer unit which is what I actually wanted. The consumer unit had space in it and was located in a convenient place meaning there would have been little difference in the cable runs. The only added difficulty was that the guy would have had to work in the consumer unit which he seemed reluctant to do.
@KendalSmithy
@KendalSmithy Жыл бұрын
@@garypautard1069 Don't paint us all with the same brush though please. Those of us who watch videos like this are educated, all for the better. I have had all of the work I've done in my home over a period of 40 years checked and certified by a qualified and reputable sparkie who was very complimentary. His only negative criticisms were of some of the original builders' work which I had not touched.
@rpdom
@rpdom 10 ай бұрын
Thank you. That was a lot less harsh and a lot more informative that I expected. I've replaced many sockets, switches and light fittings in my house, and put in additional sockets as required (who thought that one single socket per room was enough in the 1980s?). I always try to keep up to date with proper practices and safety and will call in an electrician for anything that I feel unsure about. I agree about making sure the wires on the sockets are long enough. Unfortunately with my house cost came first and all wires had been installed as short as possible! I also like deep back boxes to give plenty of wiggle room for the wiring.
@Sphinx2000
@Sphinx2000 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Another tip would be to check if there are rubber grommets installed in the back box. I have seen so many without them. Worth adding if they are missing.
@chrismoyler
@chrismoyler Жыл бұрын
When fitting the socket back into the box, it's important to check that as you bend the wires, none of them are directly behind the face plate screws. It is possible to tighten a face plate screw through a conductor that is immediately behind it, thus creating a short. Thx for the detailed video. Most helpful
@shammon1
@shammon1 8 ай бұрын
Out of all the socket clips I have watched the re threading tool is a new one for me, Thanks for this vital info.
@Will_I_am_-_Takeley
@Will_I_am_-_Takeley Жыл бұрын
Is that drain pipe next to the consumer unit legal or even a good idea?
@GodmanchesterGoblin
@GodmanchesterGoblin Жыл бұрын
Not a good idea. The pipe can build up silt over time and back up during a drain cycle. Been there, done that, but not a couple of inches from the mains!
@terry.hudson
@terry.hudson Жыл бұрын
Very important to make sure the terminal screw is touching the copper, not the outer insulation 👍
@termite2691
@termite2691 Жыл бұрын
I actually use a sharp needle on the end of one test lead to check continuity between the terminal screw and the wires by pushing the needle through the wire insulation as close to the terminal as possible. And yes it will leave a tiny hole in the insulation but so small as to be irrelevant. It absolutely confirms the wire is connected to the terminal correctly, very important for a ring circuit which might otherwise be broken if one wire isn't actually connected properly.
@dg2908
@dg2908 Жыл бұрын
Particularly important not to screw down on the earth sleeving
@isaiahbrathwaite8948
@isaiahbrathwaite8948 9 ай бұрын
If the cables are too SHORT What are the options
@ianhill4585
@ianhill4585 Ай бұрын
Just Google "wire extenders" or( similar wording).
@wonton8983
@wonton8983 Жыл бұрын
Before taking sockets or light switches off, loosen the screws 1 turn and tap the socket with your screwdriver handle. It will crack the paint seal, preventing chunks of paint breaking off.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information, can be helpful for people to learn
@moonshinepz
@moonshinepz Жыл бұрын
nice tip thanks
@craigchamberlain
@craigchamberlain Жыл бұрын
I usually run a Stanley knife around the outside to avoid peeling the paint or wallpaper off. Sometimes a tap is enough but sometimes not.
@KX36
@KX36 Жыл бұрын
@@craigchamberlain I use a knife. especially in new builds where the faceplates are often siliconed around.
@Dime_Bar
@Dime_Bar Жыл бұрын
Never tap the socket, water and electrics don't mix.
@michaelcampbell2650
@michaelcampbell2650 Жыл бұрын
I did not like how close that washing machine waste pipe was to the fuse board
@Smuja
@Smuja 22 күн бұрын
Best ring the police and let them know of your concerns 🥴
@okaro6595
@okaro6595 Жыл бұрын
Also if you reverse the live and neutral the fuse will be on the neutral. It can cause various risks like it can blow and leave voltage on the device or in case of ground fault it will be bypassed.
@BrianG61UK
@BrianG61UK Жыл бұрын
Good point. I was thinking of posting the same comment.
@hoonsurdaddy8482
@hoonsurdaddy8482 Жыл бұрын
The more important reason not to twist the cpc's is that they will still show when testing that they are connected even though they may have fallen out of the socket itself. The earthing of the back box can be essential if you do not have a fixed lug that the screw goes into.
@pncampbell
@pncampbell Жыл бұрын
Ive yet to find a socket screw connection block that will safely hold three conductors without tightning to the point of crushing the conductor (the screw usually only impacts and holds 2 of the 3 securely) so in the case of a ring socket which is feeding a spur I twist the last 15 mm of so of the earths.
@peadarr
@peadarr Жыл бұрын
Surely testing the earth through the socket is a required test after changing one in the UK. Even a basic plug in tester will pick up that there’s no power across the phase earth if the conductor have come out the back of the socket.
@TestGearJunkie.
@TestGearJunkie. Жыл бұрын
@@pncampbell The MK sockets with 'Wago' style connectors are good for this, there are three connectors for each of the L, N and E terminals.
@pij261
@pij261 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I think its worth mentioning that when isolating at the fuse box, not all isolation points are double pole, so you still have a potentially live cable, the neutral. And as you know because its potentially live, current will flow between the neutral and earth, if there is an rcd this will trip if not, you get a tingle! I would always recommend a DIY'er to switch the main switch, or call an electrician. Its nice to see that in some installations now in the UK people are using double pole isolation (rcbo).
@TheEulerID
@TheEulerID Жыл бұрын
An RCBO is a device that combines MCB and RCD functionality. It has nothing to do with whether it is dual pole or not. Both are available, but not from all manufacturers. Dual pole breakers are convenient for some type of testing, but they do not add much to safety in countries where circuits are routinely polarised. If there is a requirement to isolate both line an neutral, then there is always the main switch. That cuts off all the power, but as I mentioned, it is primarily convenience, not a safety issue.
@zaxmaxlax
@zaxmaxlax Жыл бұрын
​@@TheEulerIDany residual current device is at least double pole(L+N), otherwise it wouldnt even work in the first place.
@TheEulerID
@TheEulerID Жыл бұрын
@@zaxmaxlax Whilst it is true that RCDs (and therefore RCBOs) have to have both line and neutral feeds, poles refer to the breaker part, not the detector (and switches in general). In my case, the RCBOs in my CU only break the phase line, not the neutral line (which is what the overload function does too). There are diagrams on every RCBO showing whether it breaks both lines or not. Mine most definitely only breaks the phase line. So, no. You have misunderstood the terminology. Poles refer to anything that breaks or switches circuits, not to detection devices. Stand-alone RCBOs are most often single pole, as are most MCBs, at least in the UK. RCDs will almost invariable switch both poles.
@mustardcrumbles
@mustardcrumbles 11 ай бұрын
A lot (most really) of rcbo's are still single pole
@mustardcrumbles
@mustardcrumbles 11 ай бұрын
@@zaxmaxlax they are double pole in that sense but alot still are still only single pole switches and don't isolate neutral
@Wellspicedchaffinch
@Wellspicedchaffinch Жыл бұрын
I have done many of these in my house just using Google search to remind on colours and common sense - and did everything on your list (except earthing the backbox - I was happy with the risks relying on the screws to cover that)! So yay for I guess my Dad who must have taught me this stuff when I was growing up - I think he must have instilled the right principles/practices when messing around with electrics. Cheers anyway for the video! Another simple way to test for live is to grab a phone charger: have it charge your phone before turning off the socket ring main, then turn it off. If it stops charging - it's probably the right ring main/circuit. Do this process twice and it's almost certainly the right ring main. I recently bought a Klein tester to triple check the cables too, so slightly disappointed to hear they're not always accurate. But I figure it's better than not doing a wire test as a triple check. A DIYer isnt going to spend the presumably £800 or so for those posher testers....
@shamrockshore6308
@shamrockshore6308 9 ай бұрын
Are you having a laugh? If you're being serious, let me give you some advice....don't go near electrics. And if you persist, invest in an audible socket tester.....forget all that phone charger stuff.
@dchubworldsharenetwork
@dchubworldsharenetwork 5 ай бұрын
A screwdriver with a light is more than enough. 🙂 First, check that the light is on, then turn off the main or line fuse and check again. It's not rocket science. 🙂
@kevinrayner5812
@kevinrayner5812 4 ай бұрын
I was a bit surprised at the back box not being earthed. I was told by a electrician the it was a requirement. I went around the house each time that i decorated a room and added an earth to the back box. Then I am confused why plastic dry lining boxes have an earth terminal.
@JohnR31415
@JohnR31415 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic positioning of the washing machine drain next to the consumer unit…
@zeldagoblin
@zeldagoblin 8 ай бұрын
That's not really an issue. Look at where any water will be. Not anywhere near the box.
@robtmcL12
@robtmcL12 Жыл бұрын
Reversed polarity isn't "just" for the isolator ( switch). The fuse is always in the Live so the plug top properly wired will only "blow" the fuse in the neutral which then can leave the appliance still Live. Perhaps use a "Martindale" socket tester first and after you've finished.
@chrismoyler
@chrismoyler Жыл бұрын
GREAT TIP. The Martindale tester has now evolved, and is also manufactured by other companies. One design can now pick up 30 different faults! These testers are super cheap- a MUST HAVE! TKY
@canibrahim7827
@canibrahim7827 Жыл бұрын
Washing machine waste pipe right next to the consumer unit 😮 lovelly
@raychambers3646
@raychambers3646 Жыл бұрын
Had the same thought !
@dangaAgadanga
@dangaAgadanga Жыл бұрын
Me too 😊 Bet it was placed on purpose so viewers can comment. That will spike the insights
@Chris_Ford
@Chris_Ford 10 ай бұрын
There is nothing wrong with the washing machine where it is. If it has been installed correctly.
@cag9284
@cag9284 7 ай бұрын
I clocked that too 😂😂😂
@justintemp
@justintemp 2 ай бұрын
Amateur comment But the hose goes directly into pipe so no water will come out though?
@fus149hammer5
@fus149hammer5 Жыл бұрын
A very clear and concise article apart from one thing. Trying to get a sparkie who is willing to do a home visit just to fit or test a single socket. It aint going to happen. If you can get one they will charge a fortune. I'm lucky I have a working knowledge of this sort of thing and the appropriate tools but luckily my neighbour and friend is a tutor at an electrical college and so he's fully up with the regs and gives me good advice in advance of any projects I have and has got me out of shtuck more than once. My mate needed a 30 year old bathroom light replaced after it stopped working due to the bulb contact points breaking down. His local spark wanted £200 for what was to him 10 minutes and he lives in the same street! He didn't even need his van! I did it for the cost of a box of wago connectors. A lot of these vids all state that if you can't do the job or don't feel confident about it call a professional. Sound advice but getting one? Good luck. 👍
@MINERAL-115
@MINERAL-115 Жыл бұрын
When I moved in to my last house, the garage was powered by a bit of trailing 4mm that the previous owner had installed. I'm very comfortable around electrical systems - I'm an electronics repair specialist - so I rewired the entire garage, including fitting a small consumer unit to separate out the boiler, lights and sockets. Getting an electrician in to check the work was an absolute nightmare; I wasn't comfortable using the new accessories until they had been checked by a professional, and in the end (after over a year) I managed to swap 'work for work' and fixed an 1662 (electrical testing unit) in exchange for the work. I'd have had no issue paying for the work to be checked - even above what would be a fair amount of money for the work - but unless you're offering them a job where they can charge ridiculous amounts of money, my local electricians just don't give a damn. I can't imagine how frustrating being in a similar situation would be for someone who's taken the time to learn how to, and then carried out their own work, only to hit a roadblock because of lazy/avaricious sparkies.
@DavidMartin-ym2te
@DavidMartin-ym2te Жыл бұрын
You are both absolutely right. I can do simple stuff but cannot do PAT testing or EICR reports obviously but getting anyone to even ring back is a nightmare. They all complain on these U tbe vids about "amateurs" but not returning calls because they cannot be bothered is just rude and pathetic.
@raymondg6823
@raymondg6823 Жыл бұрын
@Do you find so called mates or neighbours, then say 'oh that didn't take long' and hand a token fiver or nothing at all, yet often they're willing to pay a professional a couple of hundred for same job. I gave up being kind but rather late in life. I find it hard to say no to help others.
@TestGearJunkie.
@TestGearJunkie. Жыл бұрын
@@DavidMartin-ym2te I got myself qualified to do PAT (not PAT Testing please, that says Portable Appliance Testing Testing, which is silly..!) and have done all the equipment in the house. It's amazing how many things there are, you don't realise until you go through them..!
@DavidMartin-ym2te
@DavidMartin-ym2te 9 ай бұрын
Just seen your note - sorry about the tautology! @@TestGearJunkie.
@michaelslee4336
@michaelslee4336 Жыл бұрын
If I’m trying to find the circuit breaker to a particular outlet I plug in a vacuum cleaner because I can hear that all the way in the front garage where the box is. Flip till you hear it go off and double check by turning it on again. Of course test for dead as well.
@AndyJSThomson
@AndyJSThomson Жыл бұрын
I can add a tip I learned the hard way. Make sure you don't trap any of the wires when putting the face plate back. I accidentally pinched a neutral wire between the end of the face plate screw and the back box. The insulation wasn't split so there was no direct metal to metal contact, but it was enough that every time a load was switched on, on the same circuit, the trip would shut it down.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@chrismoyler
@chrismoyler Жыл бұрын
VERY EASY TO DO!! I've just added a separate comment about this problem HATE 25mm deep back boxes!!
@MrMEROSOL
@MrMEROSOL Жыл бұрын
May I humbly suggest that as an electrician, you may not want to be wearing your wedding ring while working. There are too many places/times to have that metal interfere with your work protocols : Bumping into something live, getting caught on any kind of protruding wires/metal/construction etc. Any kind of jewelry was banned from anyone working construction of any kind in my company. Rings, necklaces, earrings, etc. were all required to be left at hime.
@cjnewbs
@cjnewbs Жыл бұрын
Does a ring add any more risk? If you were to bump into a live wire with a ring vs the skin on your finger you’ll get a shock regardless right?
@massimomacucci7461
@massimomacucci7461 Жыл бұрын
There is indeed a very serious risk resulting from wedding rings, metal bracelets, metal watch wristbands and similar when working around circuits with large batteries: if a short circuit is created by the ring/bracelet, the ring/bracelet may get welded and become incandescent, cutting your finger/wrist or at least causing very serious injuries. This is the reason why I never wear my wedding ring or watches with non-plastic wristbands.
@peterhope9486
@peterhope9486 Жыл бұрын
Yeah ok… that ring will make all the difference 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@peterscrutton5507
@peterscrutton5507 Жыл бұрын
It is a very good point, I remember years ago my grandfather got his wrist watch across the positive of a car battery and the clamp holding it down. Obviously there was no risk of electrocution but a very large current quickly heated up the wrist strap causing a bad burn. Even extra low voltage systems capable of delivering high currents can be dangerous
@kevvywevvywoo
@kevvywevvywoo Жыл бұрын
I agree, I'm not married but my boss (who was) always left his wedding ring at home. A band of gold, one of the best conductors, will make much better contact with the skin than just brushing past a live wire with the back of a knuckle. You tend to sweat under a ring as well, just to make the contact better.
@stephenkayll5241
@stephenkayll5241 Жыл бұрын
I'm confident to undertake tasks like this and my working practice is that I have passed all your advice 100%, I'm super cautious with electricity. As an very experienced senior Architectural Technician, the one bug bear I have is front plates not being level. I happens far too often, mainly by apprentices, their gaffer should take much better care in teaching the apprentice the correct working practice. I saw a front plate and back box 15mm out of level 4 months ago. The guy who owned the company was on site, I pulled him about it and he thought is was funny!!
@darthvalkyr
@darthvalkyr Жыл бұрын
15mm!! That has to be a record over such a small distance!! And there's me making sure the spirit level bubble is in the middle of the black lines as there is always space each side.
@Stan_55UK
@Stan_55UK 7 ай бұрын
The consumer unit in the video would benefit from being out of level by a few mil, for when that washer drain pees water all over it! At least some of it would drain away...
@whatever_12
@whatever_12 Жыл бұрын
Can you use a T connector or 3 way for a ring circuit to the socket? So that only 1L,n,e cable go to the socket
@Doovde69
@Doovde69 Жыл бұрын
When I checked replaced some sockets recently in my '2004 new build' home, with the entire house wired by the George Wimpey spark, I found every socket had the CPC's twisted and sleeved by the professional!
@kevvywevvywoo
@kevvywevvywoo Жыл бұрын
before the current fashion for EICR's, many installations in the 60s and 70's had twisted earth wires on the rings. And digitial testers were yet to be invented. Our family's electrician had an AVO 7 and a neon screwdriver, a wind-up megger for tricky tests and a Vauxhall Viva with a ladder on top.
@AScotter-g2w
@AScotter-g2w Жыл бұрын
Having just finished refurbing a bungalow, I have a question for you Jordan. Have you tried engaging the services of an electrician? Never mind good or bad, just finding one that can do a small job? Electricians, plasterers and plumbers. Absolute nightmare to get any of them to do as they say they will and actually turn up on site. What’s more frustrating is I’m qualified up to 16th edition of the regs but can no longer do this stuff because I’m not going to spend thousands on kit for all of the testing and certification that needs doing now. The electrician I finally managed to engage (at proper money I might add) finished 5 weeks behind schedule which really ruined the timetables of all the other tradies on site. All VERY stressful, especially as I’m only a handful of miles outside your radius.
@kevinrayner5812
@kevinrayner5812 4 ай бұрын
Tell me about getting plasterers in. I have a front room and half a hall way to do. I have given up for now. The worst thing was when two cowboys who I only knew by mobile phone number thought I would be stupid enough to pay a £1000 deposit for materials. How much God damned plaster were they going to buy assuming taking the deposit wasn't a scam of course.
@g7eit
@g7eit Жыл бұрын
Over the years I’ve had tons or cross threaded back boxes. I got a rethreading tool (taper tap) and never had to use it since…… bugger 😂. Nice video Jordan.
@neilturner6654
@neilturner6654 10 ай бұрын
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
@g7eit
@g7eit 10 ай бұрын
@@neilturner6654 I still haven’t used it. I’m going to leave it at home one day and I bet you that’ll be the day I need it 😂
@mikeflowerdew7877
@mikeflowerdew7877 9 ай бұрын
This is one of those rare videos that really explains _why_ to do this or that, not just "because regs". Regulations are important, but they themselves exist for a reason, and these reasons are imo more convincing to a DIYer who might otherwise be tempted to bodge it. Well done!
@davidquirk8097
@davidquirk8097 Жыл бұрын
Worst thing I ever found? A domestic socket in an extension, on a ring, each end of the ring fed from a different circuit breaker. The householder was pretty proud of his wiring 'skills' too! I very nearly walked away from that job but I persevered and persuaded the guy to pay me to do a full installation check. That the threw a few more faults like poorly connected equipotential bonds to the service pipes but nothing too major. I put another half turn on pretty much every screw terminal though (with my calibrated torque screw driver)
@Soupdragonism
@Soupdragonism 8 ай бұрын
Love the tip to re thread the back box holes. Sometimes I've spent as long refitting the cover as I have replacing a socket.
@stephenpike3147
@stephenpike3147 Жыл бұрын
I am so pleased to hear you stress about proving the circuit you are about to work on is beyond doubt … dead, verifying you see it switch off as you knock the breaker off - remembering someone could have reversed the L and N connections too! Breakers can and do fail (older mcb and mccbs may not be positive indicating) and sometimes circuits aren’t wired as you might expect or the Reg’s dictate. You missed stating ensuring that everyone who may be in the vicinity knows the circuit must remain dead and must not interfere with anything until you give the all clear (lock off and tag - would be the ideal), verbal, visual/ signage. Use the right tools too - cutters for cutting only, wire strippers for stripping insulation. Check copper not kicked at the strip point when removing insulation. Not a fan of looping the end of the stripped wire as you stress the copper on such tight 180 degree bends, if it’s clamped on the return bent end and not the straight copper then you are passing current through a reduced cross section and thus derated cable on the bend! In my opinion always better to keep straight and ensure conductors are seated correctly in the clamp. I always have a separate earth back box to the socket (ring earth paired on the other earth connection - standardised on double sockets so can do) that covers you where the box screw threads strip or are loose and could become live. In machinery and associated cubicle/ panel building wiring (to EN 60294-1) you are not allowed to use any securing/ mounting/ fixing screws to be used as an earth - the earth has to be a separate stress free connection. So still surprised wiring Reg’s have not caught up and don’t dictate domestic sockets are structured to ensure this best practise. Above all do not rush, check what you are doing - professionals make mistakes when they rush or get distracted too! Good to see your wire pull tests on individual connections. The devil is in the detail, well done.
@AubsUK
@AubsUK Жыл бұрын
But he said doubling it over not to have double thickness, but to take into account that only a single wire is being put into the terminal, So either you have a single CPC going into the terminal, or you have a single and another wire (doubled over), which basically means two wires and I presume most likely better grip, and even if the bend breaks, it's still one/two wires which was the intended purpose.
@BenjaminHussain95
@BenjaminHussain95 2 ай бұрын
Wow what a video you shared there. It was really eye opening to see how many little mistakes can happen when you're swapping out sockets at home!. Your pointers are super useful and will definitely come in for preventing any mishaps, down the line while dealing with electricity work in the future so thank you for sharing such valuable advice with us all!
@1mannik
@1mannik Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video Jordan , this has given me the confidence to install my own 3 phase 😂
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Жыл бұрын
You got this haha
@mikemoller6461
@mikemoller6461 Ай бұрын
Ahh, the old 3 phase speaker cable coming out again!! lol
@Uftonwood2
@Uftonwood2 Жыл бұрын
Are you content with the distribution board being so close to the WM outflow pipe?
@kamcg1049
@kamcg1049 Жыл бұрын
Its also worth having a 'Socket Outlet Tester Receptacle Tester with Voltage Display Automatic Electric Circuit Polarity Voltage Detector' to double check the wiring is connected correctly in the socket.
@KX36
@KX36 Жыл бұрын
Now we know who buys their tools on aliexpress 🤣
@wotjonsez2560
@wotjonsez2560 11 ай бұрын
Nice sensible video, I too hate twisted wires especially into the live/neutral terminals, they always come loose.
@JanDavidOehl
@JanDavidOehl Жыл бұрын
Good thing you‘re emphasizing the importance of using a proper voltage tester and not just one of those lying pens 👍
@scoops0406
@scoops0406 2 ай бұрын
Thank God, I started watching the vid, saw the volt stick and thought, oh dear, oh dear. Fortunately things improved 😊
@spamhead
@spamhead Жыл бұрын
After isolating, the first thing to do is carefully run a sharp blade around the circumference of the socket. Saves it sticking and pulling paint etc. with it. Hopefully stops the other half recommending redecorating!
@darthvalkyr
@darthvalkyr Жыл бұрын
Worth it if you weren't the last one to decorate, but I'd go further saying first step is to make sure the sockets etc are loose from the wall and paint allowed to dry properly in the first instance. I do hate it when lazy decorators paint or paper up to sockets and switches instead of doing the job right first time.
@michaelgoode9555
@michaelgoode9555 10 ай бұрын
I watched this again before replacing a double socket with built in usb in fhe FiL's flat. The wiring is from the early nineties. The wire tails are imo way too short. It made securing a bit awkward. The earths were twisted together so I separated them and used some extra sleeving. Thankfully all went back and tested well. The dodgy socket was a gb fitted by a local oddjobber during covid. I replaced it with an MK one. Thanks for the tutorial.
@XTRLFX
@XTRLFX Жыл бұрын
Love watching those videos. As I watch videos from people around the world about electrical stuff, it's funny to see the differences. I'm from Germany. You wouldn's see something to screw in a socket over here. So nothing to get loose over time and cause sparks. But I do like the buttons you have on each socket. Also a main switch is not mandatory over here in the distribution boxes. It is mandatory in the main distribution though nowadays. But don't expect that in older installations. Usually an RCD will do that job if present (again, depends on how old that stuff is). When we took over our house, they only way to power down the complete installation was to pull the NH fuses. Worst videos about electrical installation usually are videos from the US. Their stuff looks dangerous compared to European standards. In regards to cable colors. We use the same as you do. If you find something old from the 60s, red might be earth, neutral gray and black and blue would be live. So if you see red cables over here, be vary careful what you conned to what.
@johnbull5394
@johnbull5394 11 ай бұрын
What about Italy? Twisted conductors under a thimble connector, no form of EICR so the installation is never tested and relies on faultless original execution. Live is grey, black, brown, or red even in a single-phase domestic installation and there seems to be no consistency as to which colour live is used for what.
@Gazwright1986
@Gazwright1986 Жыл бұрын
What about if you extend the old coloured wiring because they were too short, with the current setup, wire it all up correctly and your socket tester still shows a reverse polarity ?? What then ? What is the solution to this ?
@doublevisio
@doublevisio Жыл бұрын
Good to see the waste water outlet of a washing machine right next to the consumer unit.😀
@robcowdrey2611
@robcowdrey2611 Жыл бұрын
Great video - well explained thankyou. I'm a keen DIY-er and have changed many socket fronts. I recently added a double socket spur of an existing double on the downstairs ring. I found the existing socket didn't have a cpc to the back box - so added it in and did the same to the new socket. So to my mind I've made a better job and improved the installation as a DIY guy - who's not under time pressure, than the professional who might (and did) cut corners to save time. Btw - I would only ever mod existing circuits and never run new before someone reaches for the wooden spoon ;).
@cuebj
@cuebj Жыл бұрын
Excellent point about DIY not under time pressure, except from spouse! Trouble is, you can offer a professional a bit extra to take a bit longer but their instincts, honed by quoting low to match low expectations of most domestic customers, override your offer so they still do quick sloppy work!
@robcowdrey2611
@robcowdrey2611 Жыл бұрын
Just to add there were no grommets on the existing steel box - or sleeving on the original cabling either ! I added them.
@markyates5744
@markyates5744 Жыл бұрын
Rubber grommets around the wires where they come through the metal back box. I'd have put that on the list. Tight wires against sharp metal might cause the wires to wear through if stretched. Also, you might need to buy longer screws if replacing the back box. And, very importantly, make sure nobody in the house could accidentally turn theConsumer Unit back on. And tell people what you're doing so they know why the power has been cut. In a family house where you're the only adult going near that's ok, but on a job with other people working there it's an obvious issue and it might need locking closed.
@ashleybignell2366
@ashleybignell2366 Жыл бұрын
Grommets are nice to see & good working practice but not a requirement. So you cant really put it down as a customer mistake. & no doubt same as myself you've seen plenty of so called proffesionals that can't be arsed to use them.
@dougaltolan3017
@dougaltolan3017 Жыл бұрын
I like to have a light switched on and plugged into another socket on the same circuit. Light goes on - > stop work.
@Weareeverything2023
@Weareeverything2023 Жыл бұрын
I used to suggest to sparkies I worked with to take the fuses from industrial switchboards with them whilst working on jobs. I know of two occasions where people have seen fuses left on the top of a board and “helpfully” put them back in. It’s the most silly mistakes that can kill the sparkie, always protect yourself first. Times have changed re safety over the last forty years for the better, but an idiot today can still kill you just as effectively as they did years ago.
@PearsallEu
@PearsallEu Жыл бұрын
​@@ashleybignell2366I always pull up lack of grommets when I'm installing thermostats. Imo it's a faulty install... Doesn't take much to fix
@kevinrayner5812
@kevinrayner5812 4 ай бұрын
Shows I am getting old. I was doing job or other and had the consumer unit switched off. Finished the job but for some reason didn't switch it back on. Probably got interrupted. Later on for the life of me I couldn't work out why the kettle was taking so long to boil. It did eventually sink in.
@jaycie5021
@jaycie5021 5 ай бұрын
Very interesting. I know how to wire north american outlets and so many differences. One old tip that still works well, plug a radio in the outlet when you are at the breaker panel. You know you've got the correct breaker when the radio goes silent. When you are dealing with old houses with poor labeling of circuits it can be a lifesaver to not have to run back and forth to the breaker panel. Test properly after but it's a good first step.
@scottwallis6197
@scottwallis6197 Ай бұрын
i've used a lamp before but something that makes a noise from another room makes a lot of sense. cheers
@chrisheath9548
@chrisheath9548 Жыл бұрын
Can I ask what the electrician's view is on using the rcd test button on a socket tester to identify and turn off the ring main?
@Proactivity
@Proactivity Жыл бұрын
Tips for gettting the machine screws back in would be good. Some faceplates come with really short screws, so if the lugs are deep and you don't have spare longer screws, getting them in the holes can be tricky. I've been known to use cocktail sticks to get them aligned!
@colinelliott5629
@colinelliott5629 Жыл бұрын
I added a pack of long screws to my tool box a long time ago.
@KendalSmithy
@KendalSmithy Жыл бұрын
Make sure there are grommets in the cable entry holes in metal backboxes. If you start a job like this and realise you don't have any grommets you're definitely going to 'conveniently forget' about them.
@TheEulerID
@TheEulerID Жыл бұрын
It's easy to fit a grommet after the event, and that's just to run a sharp knife through it and the you can fit it over the cable and put it home. There's not danger of touching the cable touching the metal back box as the ends will be pushed together. It's also a useful retro-fit as many back boxes did not have grommets installed in past years. Saves having to disturb the connections.
@wiganPrayersman5177
@wiganPrayersman5177 Жыл бұрын
Good informative video , a tip is to make sure the the wire in the socket are not behind the face plate screws as sometimes there can be upto 6-8 wires in the back box if it's a ring main with a spur coming off it.
@RichardDavies-tn2ug
@RichardDavies-tn2ug Жыл бұрын
By "getting the screws threaded" I think you mean CROSS threaded, which then strips the screw and often the lug. Much worse in plasterboard back boxes that seem more prone to cross threading.
@roversaloon
@roversaloon Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if this has already been said but in the case of the flying lead that you connected to the terminal at the back of the box, would this not have to be twisted around one of the two earth wires to ensure that the box is grounded when the face plate is removed?
@BarneySaysHi
@BarneySaysHi Жыл бұрын
If you're wiring up an all metal light fixture on the ceiling, make sure that the switched live doesn't get smushed between both halves of the fixture. I've done that in the past and I was glad I had grounded the light fixture, as the result was blindingly spectacular. And loud.
@kevinrayner5812
@kevinrayner5812 4 ай бұрын
Many years ago a neighbour asked me for help fitting a metal ceiling light fitting. He knew it should be earthed but there was no earth cable. I assume for some reason who ever re-wired the 1930s house just cut the earth wire off. There was no slack to pull any cable through.
@RadianFilms64
@RadianFilms64 4 күн бұрын
5:57 Why does the earth wire comes with no insulation? Where I live, we have the same colors for the wires but the green-yellow always comes insulated, the same as blue and brown. Just wondering...
@Tappit333
@Tappit333 Жыл бұрын
I worked at an Electric blanket factory many years ago; one colleague suggested we all go to his gran's house for lunch. On entering the living room, we found his gran lying asleep on the sofa wrapped in an electric blanket; I stepped on the carpet, and there was a huge bang followed by a large hole in the carpet. His gran awoke as the blanket smouldered; she was okay. I checked the power had gone off and lifted the carpet. To my shock, she had extended two different gauged wires with sellotape. She did not have a plug, so she used the classic match sticks to hold the wires in the holes. It's not a good advert for the Electric blanket.
@cymbaliv5586
@cymbaliv5586 10 ай бұрын
Good grief! On the other hand, you nearly saved on cremation costs...
@bfapple
@bfapple Жыл бұрын
8:51 I've seen backboxes where the plasters didn't leave the right slack on one of the ring cores - thoughts on using 32A Wago lever terminals to address this?
@moonshinepz
@moonshinepz Жыл бұрын
Got some (decent brand) faceplates from an ebay seller and delighted to find they threw in 2ft of earth sleeving. made me think that for DIYers this should be normal rather than an exception.
@ydrol2
@ydrol2 10 ай бұрын
Like the tip on getting a screw tap. I saw some electricians use a relatively cheap socket tester (about £12) so bought one. Also I've found having some slightly longer M3.5 screws than the ones supplied, handy for some backplates.
@johnmaguire9305
@johnmaguire9305 Жыл бұрын
You can also buy spacer frames which allow the socket to sit proud. That can give you wiggle room.
@NowInAus
@NowInAus Жыл бұрын
But they make your house look like a 70s caravan!
@darthvalkyr
@darthvalkyr Жыл бұрын
Got some lovely short wiring on my FCUs I'm putting in. But only because I've chased plastic conduit into my lovely 1950s solid concrete walls. Plenty of cable, but the excess pushes up/down neatly into the ceiling void above/ below them. I believe some companies (Schneider Electric for one?) make spacers if you want USB sockets into standard 25mm back boxes without all the extra hassle of ripping out the back boxes too. Just adds 10mm protrusion from the wall though.
@CChallinor
@CChallinor Жыл бұрын
one thing that worried me was the proximity of the washing machine outfloww to the main board , just seems a bad idea.
@tonywright8294
@tonywright8294 Жыл бұрын
I saw that to . Had to sit down and have a cup of tea ! Doubt I will sleep tonight with the worry . Oh yes I will because I’m not a total wanker like you .
@MattF340
@MattF340 Жыл бұрын
@@tonywright8294 The evidence suggests otherwise.
@CChallinor
@CChallinor Жыл бұрын
@@tonywright8294 my my what wit and repartee
@TestGearJunkie.
@TestGearJunkie. Жыл бұрын
@@tonywright8294 Eh..? Who's a wanker..? Thought that was Davo Savery 🤣
@uei651
@uei651 18 күн бұрын
i love watching these videos, especially from the US to see how other countries have there electrical setup and regulations. very informative
@oftendead3228
@oftendead3228 Жыл бұрын
One important thing missed. After proving dead ensure the cb is prevented from being re-closed so someone doesn’t come and switch back on while you’re working on it. Or at the very minimum tell everyone what your doing and not to switch it on
@janlievens6964
@janlievens6964 Жыл бұрын
Also you should have a proving unit for your tester,
@NowInAus
@NowInAus Жыл бұрын
Sticking the fuse in your pocket is just a distant memory now…
@oftendead3228
@oftendead3228 Жыл бұрын
@@NowInAus Not for me, although I’d need much bigger pockets 😏
@ianithompson4239
@ianithompson4239 Жыл бұрын
Yes had same issue recently with MK I think theres threadlock like you say as they loosen as they go in after a couple of turns! Deffo check the cables are gripped i use my insulated long nose pliers where its tight for access.
@barryhumphries4514
@barryhumphries4514 Жыл бұрын
Why do cables not have cpc/earth sleeving in place, instead of bare copper? 💁🏽‍♂
@tonywright8294
@tonywright8294 Жыл бұрын
Nobody knows 😱
@TheEulerID
@TheEulerID Жыл бұрын
@@tonywright8294 Yes they do. It's cheaper and makes the cable slightly less bulky.
@AbbieMarchant
@AbbieMarchant Жыл бұрын
Many years ago an electrician told me that another reason for the bare copper earth was to make it easier to split/open the outer sleeve. Expose ½" of bare copper, grip it with pliers and pull perpendicular to the cable. The copper core will literally slice open the outer sleeve.
@JohnR31415
@JohnR31415 Жыл бұрын
Also means you’re more likely to make contact with the cpc if you put a screw/nail through the cable…
@martinw245
@martinw245 Жыл бұрын
@@AbbieMarchant "The copper core will literally slice open the outer sleeve." That's not why the CPC isn't insulated though. Its mainly cost. Its not really good practice to spit the outer insulation that way, not good for the CPC. I grip both live and neutral.
@danthechippie4439
@danthechippie4439 11 ай бұрын
Do you have a prefared tool to locate live cables behind a plaster board wall, assuming of course that there isn't a visible socket or light switch
@danyo1972
@danyo1972 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. Education is power. Some Pros will not like this stuff being shown, but I’m of the opinion that better to show how it’s done right than have some poor sod endanger themselves for no good reason. The DIYer is going to have a go regardless, so why not educate them properly.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Жыл бұрын
That is what we thought, better teach people then pretend it won't happen
@cuebj
@cuebj Жыл бұрын
Also... makes it safer and easier to work with for some subsequent professional in following years. Contrary to so many tradespeople who deliberately leave a mess for people who to work with later
@melorange1678
@melorange1678 2 ай бұрын
Is that an outlet pipe for the washing machine hooked over an outlet tube....rightnnext to the mains box ?
@utuber849404
@utuber849404 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Only critique, you should not switch the mains switch off under load. Shut off all MCB’s, RCBO’s and RCD’s before shutting the Main Switch off. Also, do not switch the Main Switch back on unless all of the above is still off.
@levipadre
@levipadre 2 ай бұрын
Hi. If I have metal plate, still not required the extra earth cabel connection between the box and the socket?
@JustSomeVideos0
@JustSomeVideos0 Жыл бұрын
My tip would be don't assume the wiring is as you imagine and test frequently for isolation. I gutted our house before a rewire but had the juice on for lighting etc. Entire house was on 3 old wire fuses (no MCB,RCD etc). Heating was via economy 7 night storage heaters isolated via a crusty old switch. Flipped the switch, did a DVM check to ensure no juice, removed the first storage heater and isolated the ends. Removed the second one, isolated the ends- on a roll! Unscrewed the power from the third, for some reason the dangling wires sparked my spidey senses- stuck a nice long metal screwdriver across the L+N- massive bang (though even that didn't trip the fuse). Turns out some genius had wired the last storage heater as an unfused spur off the ring circuit for the sockets. To this day not sure why I thought of "testing" it. Scary buisness. In my mind, an isolation switch labelled "night storage heaters" should isolate anything in the house purporting to be a night storage heater. Lesson learned. Other than the 3 wire fuses there would have been nothing other than the DNO 100A between me and the national grid.
@colinelliott5629
@colinelliott5629 Жыл бұрын
When my sister-in-law rewired her parents' old house, the electrician found lead pipes with squashed ends of just poking out of the walls where the gas sconces had been; they were still attached to the gas main! I guess they had become redundant in the 1930s. It had been a council house until the 1980s.
@mustardcrumbles
@mustardcrumbles 11 ай бұрын
Rewirable bs3036 are notorious for their large instant breaking capacity, even a 100a 1361 cutout fuse won't blow instantly at 100amp ,
@uncensored5104
@uncensored5104 Жыл бұрын
Isnt it good practice to "double up" on the live & neutral as well? I know some cheaper sockets are tight to double up into, but most decent made sockets allow this.
@TestGearJunkie.
@TestGearJunkie. Жыл бұрын
I'd only do that for a single conductor, say the end of a spur. Not on a standard ring with two wires per terminal.
@pullmeifinger
@pullmeifinger Жыл бұрын
Im am 53 years old. i qualified at 23. I have not done much domestic work for years (tended to spend more time moving furniture than working, and then theres the customers🙄) but i can honestly say i have never, ever used a spirit level when changing a socket, thats a level of dedication i never managed to reach!
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Жыл бұрын
I am sure you are a very dedicated individual
@peadarr
@peadarr Жыл бұрын
To be honest, after 10 years I trust my eyes more than an apprentice with a level
@bbjsykes2301
@bbjsykes2301 Жыл бұрын
@@artisanelectrics In fact, if the socket is close to a ' not quite horizontal' skirting board, it should be installed parallel - otherwise it will look very odd!
@brianeastman9074
@brianeastman9074 Жыл бұрын
Great video thank you.Just a quick question,some sockets have L1 and L2. Does it matter which one you use ?
@jamesgilbart2672
@jamesgilbart2672 Жыл бұрын
Rethreading the metal box lugs is a useful tip - I didn't know you could do that! Thanks.
@tonywright8294
@tonywright8294 Жыл бұрын
You can’t it’s against the law .
@keithg1xfl
@keithg1xfl Жыл бұрын
Why??
@thequietroom3991
@thequietroom3991 Жыл бұрын
​@@tonywright8294bullshite.
@jamesgilbart2672
@jamesgilbart2672 Жыл бұрын
@@tonywright8294 As asked below, if it is illegal to rethread the metal box lugs why would Mr Artisan Electrics recommend it??
@TestGearJunkie.
@TestGearJunkie. Жыл бұрын
@@tonywright8294 Eh..? Which law and why..? Please explain.
@biggbudd8364
@biggbudd8364 10 ай бұрын
Would it be OK when the cables are too short to put the two neutral cables two positive cables. And 2 earth cables... Split in separate 3 way wagos the 221.... connections ... then have just 1 neutral wire.coming from the neutral wagos. 1 positive coming from the positive wagos and one earth wire coming from the earth wago go into the socket... Thanks
@DevonDandy
@DevonDandy Жыл бұрын
Checking the incoming socket to ensure you get the L and N connections correct to avoid reverse polarity is vital. So very important not to go by the photograph that you have just been told to take !
@Prr-u9o
@Prr-u9o Жыл бұрын
Well it should surely have L and N marked on it by law I should think .
@Thurgosh_OG
@Thurgosh_OG Жыл бұрын
Well the photo will show you which colour connects to which letter, so it has a use.
@patrickparker8417
@patrickparker8417 Жыл бұрын
@@Thurgosh_OG That as well .
@jamesdcuk
@jamesdcuk Жыл бұрын
I like the tip about cutting a new thread. I had this issue the other day but thankfully the screw managed to cut the thread for me after a few tricky turns. If it had broken I’d have been in trouble as I’d just finished plastering and decorating the room! I did actually use an older megger tester to check the rcd despite not being qualified
@HA05GER
@HA05GER Жыл бұрын
Had a similar issue and tiles over the box luckily my work carried 3.5mm nuts so just attached one behind the original thread.
@tonywright8294
@tonywright8294 Жыл бұрын
Well that’s a worry of my mind ! Phew
@ppdan
@ppdan Жыл бұрын
Turn left first until you feel the exact begining of the thread ... nearly never damaged a thread (when it happened it was mainly because someone damaged it before me). This is especially handy when removing and putting back self tappers in soft materials avoiding to cut another thread instead of using the one that is already there.
@flange0r
@flange0r Жыл бұрын
If it's the thread on the adjustable side that's broken you can rob one from another backbox
@christopherkingston9601
@christopherkingston9601 Жыл бұрын
All screws are threaded. The term to use if the threads are not engaged/meshed properly is cross threaded.
@ef7480
@ef7480 Жыл бұрын
or 'stripped' 'non existent'
@kevinrayner5812
@kevinrayner5812 4 ай бұрын
I had, I will call him a so called electrician, employed by a builder to do a kitchen extension. Shortly after the work was completed I decorated the new and existing kitchen and loosened off the light switch to paint behind it and found the cowboy had screwed the face plate on with wood screws.
@redf7209
@redf7209 Жыл бұрын
I'm always quite suspicious when doing this work. I had a couple of shocks when i was younger that trained me that way. I always plug something into the socket like a desklight and watch it go off after I switch off at the fusebox. If still in doubt, such as when a socket switch or light switch becomes unreliable ( over the years I found these often to be a point of intermittent failure) and you don't know if it is really off or due to the switch failure, as the video recommends i switch everything off. This is a pain though because its a dark house and sometimes i just need a light to see what i'm doing. I had a new consumer unit fitted professionally a few years ago when other work was done. Some fuses are labelled for upstairs or downstairs but I'm quite distrustful that these circuits are fully isolated from each other in the way assumed./intended. Don't think grommets were invented when my house was built in the late 70's because they're just not there, ( the whole design of all the utilities layouts seems cranky to me). I've also found that you can think wires are securely connected but as you push the face back into the backbox they become loose. It seems particularly likely when you have very stiff wires doubled up and one moves. There's sometimes no way of knowing if something has loosened as i screw the backplate back on. So i always listen for any sound, plug a light in and look for flicker and after a while feel for warmth and do this regularly till i feel confident. Not very scientific but i don't know any other way to do this and not sure if i can rely on a circuit breaker. I've also recently made a kind of mistake with purchase of a usb socket. Its not a deep one as mentioned in the vid but the USB sockets are positioned in a way that they cannot be accessed while an adapter sized plug is in the socket.
@wizard3z868
@wizard3z868 Жыл бұрын
i love how you brits place your c/u in the most in accessible places than say how great and superior your methods are over the west lol
@kaben401
@kaben401 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@BusbyBiscuits
@BusbyBiscuits Жыл бұрын
Some places are strange, but I have never lived in a house where it isn't inside a cupboard that is easy to access.
@HA05GER
@HA05GER Жыл бұрын
It's down to space we have some of the smallest houses in the developed world. New builds tends to be a bit better like above a door. Mine is under the stairs in my house which is an open area so isnr to bad to access.
@wizard3z868
@wizard3z868 Жыл бұрын
@HA05GER lol same here in my area of the states but really cram a washer of all things next to it 😅
@HA05GER
@HA05GER Жыл бұрын
​@@wizard3z868yeh stupid next to a washing machine makes no sense but being the UK we tend to struggle with space. My mum old house had tumble dryer in the bathroom just struggled to find a better place.
@contactjd
@contactjd Жыл бұрын
What's your thoughts on twisting the live and neutral pairs together? Not the whole lengths, just the last exposed 1cm? Would stop them possibly arcing if one came loose from the screw when securing the face plate.
@jablot5054
@jablot5054 Жыл бұрын
Don't.
@Danieel-ip6hg
@Danieel-ip6hg Жыл бұрын
Brits: NO! You can't have outlets in the bathroom, it's not safe! Also brits: Smacks up the fuse box/consumer unit next to the washing mashine
@TheEulerID
@TheEulerID Жыл бұрын
The difference is that you aren't emerging from the washing machine, naked and soaking wet. Well, at least not tin the UK; we aren't that adventurous. Maybe it's different where you come from. In any event, standard sockets have been allowed in UK bathrooms for a few years, but a minimum of 3 metres away from any wet areas (basically showers and baths). That has recently been reduced to 2.5 metres. The principle is that you don't have people who are soaking wet handling something like a hair dryer. Less of a problem with RCDs of course, but the regulations were originally produced before they existed. Also, the placement of the CU next to the washing machine is a trifle off, but then the CU is in an earthed metal box so it's extremely unlikely that anybody using that washing machine is going to be exposed to live electrics. Washing machines also don't tend to throw water into the surroundings. If they leak, it usually ends up flooding the floor, not the walls. In any event, that's an unusual set-up, although I doubt it's dangerous.
@dasy2k1
@dasy2k1 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheEulerIDwhile you may be technically allowed a socket in a bathroom now you would have to have a huge bathroom to actually be able to able to fit one!
@TheEulerID
@TheEulerID Жыл бұрын
@@dasy2k1 That bit is true. Us peasants will have to go into the bedroom to dry our hair. Not that I have much of it left these days.
@richard-riku
@richard-riku Жыл бұрын
british house: washing machine is in the kitchen so you take your dirty clothes to the room you prepare food in and if you drop the clean clothes when you take them out of the washer they pick up any crumbs or bits of food you didn't sweep up earlier. As a bonus you can listen to the washing machine hum away while you make your dinner. European house: washing machine is in the bathroom. A much more sensible place to put a machine that cleans dirty clothes.
@TheEulerID
@TheEulerID Жыл бұрын
@@richard-riku have you never heard of laundry baskets? In any event, my washing machine is in the utility room.
@bobbrock41
@bobbrock41 9 ай бұрын
Always enjoy your videos. Any chance of doing a video where you demonstrate using a two pole voltage tester on the wiring inside a live socket? This would be to show what results the tester would come up with if the socket was correctly or incorrectly wired or if there was a problem within the circuit somewhere. The manuals never go into any detail about this.
@NigelMarston
@NigelMarston Жыл бұрын
I would recommend NOT installing USB sockets because the USB standards have changed numerous times and I have never found a faceplate socket with a high enough current rating to quick charge
@TestGearJunkie.
@TestGearJunkie. Жыл бұрын
They're crap. I hate USB sockets and I won't fit them until someone comes out with one that has a switch for the USB part. They're using power all the time the circuit is energised and they make testing a pain.
@deang5622
@deang5622 Ай бұрын
@@NigelMarston That's not a valid argument. Firstly because the socket can be changed easily to support later standards. Secondly, if you have USB charger in a socket that can deliver 2 amps at 5 volts it will charge any phone. Fast charging shortens the life of the battery. Thirdly, the standards don't change that frequently actually. The main reason for not using power sockets with USB charging sockets is the expected short life of the charger with it being in a confined space.
@LuvThe350Niner-Garth
@LuvThe350Niner-Garth 8 ай бұрын
Great idea having that "'Consumer Unit"', as you call them over there in the UK, next to a washing machine drain. Asd a Sparkie, that would have sparked my interest straight away. I personally would make them move it or I'd put in defect notice on the property.
@wizard3z868
@wizard3z868 Жыл бұрын
another diy trick that we do in the states is called pigtailing instead of placing multi wires under one terminal(most devices in the states this is against manufacturer use) use a wago and have only one lead to the terminal less chance of a loose connection
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@wizard3z868
@wizard3z868 Жыл бұрын
@artisanelectrics also works great to extend short cables as well(the real reason I started to use wagos than after having to untwist earth's for testing another use ) now I'm comfortable with them to use all the time. A bit pricey though hard to be competitive but I do try to tell my clients I spend more for a more reliable job sometimes it helps most times they just want to save pennies (yes we still have and make them for some ungodly wasteful reasons lol)
@PaulFoster-do6jw
@PaulFoster-do6jw Жыл бұрын
Loving the waste from the washing machine discharging about 3inches from the side of the consumer unit! Not sure if that would be within regs, unless the consumer unit is IP rated?
@TiredMorgan
@TiredMorgan Жыл бұрын
"That extra 10mm makes all the difference" that's what she said 😀
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Жыл бұрын
Knew this joke would appear somewhere haha
@kevvywevvywoo
@kevvywevvywoo Жыл бұрын
why am I thinking of Dave Savery
@TestGearJunkie.
@TestGearJunkie. Жыл бұрын
@@kevvywevvywoo Same reason I am, I expect 🤣
@kevvywevvywoo
@kevvywevvywoo Жыл бұрын
a fetish for middle aged scruffy tradesmen? @@TestGearJunkie.
@snazy7777
@snazy7777 Жыл бұрын
Was twisting the Earths standard practice at some point in time? Only reason I ask, I have seen original consumer units from around the 70s installed with the Earths on the Ring twisted together at every termination and also on the ceiling roses.
@kevvywevvywoo
@kevvywevvywoo Жыл бұрын
yes
@Dan-Athema
@Dan-Athema Жыл бұрын
"It just feels wrong" because I could be charging for it
@NikNakGB
@NikNakGB Жыл бұрын
You can buy a cheap plug tester that makes an audible sound which is great when you're turning the power off at the consumer unit because in most situations you can hear it go silent indicating you've flipped the right switch. Obviously you'd check it with a proper tester but it can save some leg work.
@cousinluigi
@cousinluigi Жыл бұрын
And the consumer unit is right next to a… washing machine?!?
@retrozmachine1189
@retrozmachine1189 Жыл бұрын
It's so they can wash the electrons, dirty electricity is known to cause damage to appliances.
@arthurgordon6072
@arthurgordon6072 Жыл бұрын
I thought that the washing machine was always in the kitchen in the UK!
@davybloggs1564
@davybloggs1564 Жыл бұрын
Food tips there, although I can't find the link you mentioned as below, for the 3.5mm thread restorer.
@steve11211
@steve11211 Жыл бұрын
"I don't like teaching people how to do their own electrics.... So here's some videos of how to do your own electrics..."🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂
@ThePainqT
@ThePainqT Жыл бұрын
Dangerous game.
@mikecumbo7531
@mikecumbo7531 Жыл бұрын
@@ThePainqTwhy? Only those who have a piece of paper are safe and competent?
@IanFarquharson2
@IanFarquharson2 Жыл бұрын
I think Jordan has a bunch of these banked while he’s on the beach. 🏖️ 😂
@Pugjamin
@Pugjamin Жыл бұрын
“But I know you’re going to do it anyway” better to educate people in how to do it safely rather than pretend that nobody is going to try doing it. Same reason they have “safe spaces” for people to take drugs in.
@JD-gi9pl
@JD-gi9pl Жыл бұрын
You said, 'it just feels wrong' and then did it anyway 😂
@TeamSimpsonRacing
@TeamSimpsonRacing Жыл бұрын
Stop these videos right now! You should not be encouraging people to do their own electrics!
@mikecumbo7531
@mikecumbo7531 Жыл бұрын
Do you share the same feelings about people repairing their own cars? You make a mistake with the brakes and you can kill people.
@jamiemorris7688
@jamiemorris7688 Жыл бұрын
90% of sparks won't even entertain the idea of a small job these days. Straight swaps should be safe for all but the most total of imbeciles.
@fus149hammer5
@fus149hammer5 Жыл бұрын
Why? There are many basic jobs a reasonably educated person can do with the right tools and a little common sense. Just a little research can give you enough knowledge to replace a ceiling light or plug socket. Electricians are expensive and they usually can't be bothered with jobs like this unless it's part of a bigger, more expensive job. Mucking around with C.U.'s, rewiring, and running cables around is obviously (and legally) a job for a qualified professional but changing a socket or rose shouldn't be beyond the homeowner.
@JohnR31415
@JohnR31415 Жыл бұрын
Legally you just need the work checked Completely wired my loft extension - got a sparky in to sign off (one ring continuity fault that needed my troubleshooting skills). Had to do some work on the 100A side at another house - again, sparky came and signed it off with one correction (I was one edition behind the spec at the time in terms of glands for the tails).
@TestGearJunkie.
@TestGearJunkie. Жыл бұрын
They're going to do it anyway. Better they know how to do it properly.
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