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@black.phoenix. Жыл бұрын
Wayne looks to be a very energetic and bright personality guy. More of him please.
@sRadio-xg4yr Жыл бұрын
Agreed, a natural on camera :)
@Ben-gm9lo Жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for Wayne. Camera candy!
@mfx1 Жыл бұрын
As long as what you use to attach the the unistrut is MCS approved I can't see the issue, after all are the roof joists etc. that you would need to attach to MCS approved? No they're not. The unistrut is effectively an existing part of the house and it's clearly survived well, it's not even rusty. Seems to me that "MCS approval" is yet another industry body revenue generating scheme, it has no legal basis and it pretty much looks like you just replaced perfectly good steel strut with an almost identical aluminum replacement..
@travisbro Жыл бұрын
i can tell wayne knows his stuff, plus he makes the content better
@hughmarcus1 Жыл бұрын
I ran an asbestos company for 15 years. Wayne is doing everything by the book because he’s on video. Normally he’d nip up that ladder crack a couple of corners off the tiles & take a photo. All the white suit & mask stuff is technically required but in practice is seriously OTT. What that roof is, is fibre cement slates. The asbestos content would be between 5 & 8% & to quote the HSE the asbestos fibres are firmly bound within the material. Unless you start smashing the tiles with a hammer the risk is negligible. We used to provide safe systems of work for solar installers that allowed them to drill whatever holes were necessary on those roofs & ensure no debris was created. It’s actually not that difficult
@bullhurley-uv8ys Жыл бұрын
@@hughmarcus1 can I pick your brain? What's the risks/ your views on pulling old rewireable fuses with asbestos liners?
@Trenchfoot17 ай бұрын
@@hughmarcus1 Hugh, was your company UKAS accredited?
@hughmarcus17 ай бұрын
@@Trenchfoot1 No UKAS is only for the big boys. I looked into it, but it was going to cost £15k per year & economically unviable. The joke about UKAS is that the big boys subbed out the messy, dirty jobs to local companies like ours. 2 reasons, they didn't have staff with experience of messy demolition sites & they often had silly rules that said they didn't inspect anything more than 3 mtrs above ground level - not much use if you were demolishing anything more than a bungalow.
@notbadforasparky4791 Жыл бұрын
Early PV Panels were mounted on Uni-strut as standard. There simply wasn't any specific mounting systems available.
@martyndix2290 Жыл бұрын
We need more of Wayne! Get him out that office more often!! No disrespect to anyone else but he knows what he is doing and adds a new dimension to the content.
@nigelburton7408 Жыл бұрын
So lucky the customer was congenial. Unfortunately the thumbnail suggestion that you might 'walk off' a job means you have demoted into the same catagory as all the rest of the cowboys. If you under quote as your survey was crap, your fault and deal with it with lessons learned for next time😊
@Leebobs1983 Жыл бұрын
Get Wayne on more videos... what a legend
@shaynemacdonald3051 Жыл бұрын
Who ever did the survey should of been sacked.
@darrenjlobb Жыл бұрын
Your staff are a credit to you and your company Jordan. Always a good watch, thanks for taking the time.
@steveeggleton876 Жыл бұрын
Pair of ladders works wonders when checking out roofs and doing surveys and quotes, lot cheaper and more professional than a mistake.
@Deiphobuzz Жыл бұрын
That unistrut is just fine and was one if the first methods to mounts solarpanels. Looks like its all zinc coated? Why replace it with inferior aluminium..
@barrieshepherd7694 Жыл бұрын
I'm not a structural engineer but couldn't one have been found to assess if the old unistrut mounting system was "fit for purpose" and adequate for the new panels? To my uninitiated eye it certainly looked robust enough. A quick look shows that MCS Rules fundamentally require good practice & fit for purpose. If it was my property I would have been content with an engineers assessment and if that was positive I would not have had all that additional roof work done.
@thesteelrodent1796 Жыл бұрын
an engineer's assessment could be more costly than swapping the mounting system
@ua420 Жыл бұрын
That black skirt paddin looks cool but it should greatly reduce cooling (efficiency) of the pannels because of lack of air movement behind the pannels.
@shropshireladoutdoors743 Жыл бұрын
Save me saying it should use mesh
@Cheradanine Жыл бұрын
It doesnt make that much difference. I had my panels integrated flush into the roof. On the hottest day last year there wass about a 20% drop in generation, but on most days it is barely noticeable. A lot less than the hassle of pigeons nesting under the panels!
@pdavis2207 Жыл бұрын
I would not have insisted on replacing the unistrut unless the customer wanted to replace the existing roofing.
@camperchris Жыл бұрын
Wayne was a natural, we need more of Wayne :)
@NaydenSpirdonov Жыл бұрын
There is a shading from the chimney probably putting some optimisers at leas on the shaded panels will be good.
@st200ol Жыл бұрын
The old rails would have been fine compliant or not, but I guess you needed to make the bill up to 25k somehow. ;-)
@JorgeAMG187 Жыл бұрын
More Videos of Wayne please
@feetachemail Жыл бұрын
You have no right to complain. A simple visual inspection would have shown you all of those problems before you even started the job.
@johncorbett1130 Жыл бұрын
Simple without any scaffold
@robevans8625 Жыл бұрын
@@johncorbett1130 or a ladder
@markdauncey9276 ай бұрын
I'd have gone with the unistrut for several reasons: It looked pretty solid for much the same wind load. It avoided messing with what might have been asbestos slates. It avoided replacing drilled through slates. It would have avoided increasing costs for your customer. The unistrut fixing through the slatrs should havebbeen picked up even during a cursory in loft inspection.
@chrisgilbert9290 Жыл бұрын
Can’t believe you haven’t got a uni strut socket….😮
@briandalrymple9986 Жыл бұрын
Man, you get it easy to instal and run the solar dc cabling. In NZ we have to run the DC cables inside a continuous solar rated pvc conduit when installed internally in the roof space/attic and internally within the house. This conduit is to be labelled “dc solar”, at regular intervals and is medium density walled. The electrical standards we use are predominantly ASNZS:5033 and ASNZS:4777 which are very specific to how things are undertaken due to the recognised issues and dangers involved in having uncontrolled dc voltages and currents from the panels to the inverter.
@buckshee Жыл бұрын
Our solar PV regs in the UK are still very minor compared to ac stuff. I watch these videos and sometimes I can pass a comment on stuff the guys could do better but also the flip side is I see things they do that I realise would be good to bring into my ways of carrying out what I do.
@briandalrymple9986 Жыл бұрын
@@buckshee I hear what you are saying for sure. In the electrical service there is room for continual improvement and, lotsa stuff that appears OTT too. I recon we only need two or three reps: 1- is it electrically safe, 2- will it kill anybody, 3- will it start a fire…. I am not intending to be critical by any stretch of the imagination. The wiring system that scares the whatsit out of me is the American 120volt system and needing to wire lighting in 1.5mm, and ranges capable of 60Amps.
@buckshee Жыл бұрын
@@briandalrymple9986 When it looked at the distribution boards they still use in the states it scares me, also their regs seem to come on a pamphlet and don’t get me started on wire nuts.
@scottgordon1781 Жыл бұрын
So what exactly was wrong with the existing rails ?
@Tom-2221 Жыл бұрын
Tricky situation Jordan - on the one hand this stuff would have been quite hard to spot prior to putting up scaffolding. But on the other hand I can see how the customer might find this frustrating. I think you handled it well though, communication is key and if they were aware of the limitations of the estimate you gave then fair enough.
@irqanonimous32784 ай бұрын
You should seperate the dc leads by atleast 5 cm, you might get a arch that will persist untill the inverter.
@Pulpdiction1999 Жыл бұрын
The optics of this, I nearly walked off the job because it was a bit hard. Wouldn't be calling you, we've already established you're a top dollar company but a bit of agro and you're thinking of walking off. My solar installers turned up at 9am and it was fully commissioned by 2pm, 14 panels across 2 roofs, not sure why it takes you days to fit a few panels.
@electrician_25 Жыл бұрын
That's what companies that want millions of pounds do
@Jhongerage Жыл бұрын
Same here, except the weather was awful and the installers mate was off sick... So he showed up and did it single handed in the rain. All done before darkness set in, in October. There's a small premium I'd pay for slightly neater consumer unit wiring, but not 3 days labour worth.
@timbrooks2763 Жыл бұрын
Uni strut great tip, pop your claw hammer claw in the grove and a slight twist will allow your socket to drop on :)
@stefanovanenio Жыл бұрын
Always, always, always carry out a roof survey. Most roofs are going to be OK, but a roof survey would have highlighted the bodge job and saved the uncomfortable conversation. I must say though, 99% of clients who have PV installed are really decent people, so it does make the chat a lot easier. Great job guys
@nikgray6635 Жыл бұрын
Live dc buried in the fabric of the building unprotected and unable to be isolated close to the source and the state of the roof after it was "repaired". If youre going into the solar game youve got a lot to learn especially if youre documenting it. Shambles.
@Jaxonmcguinness Жыл бұрын
Wayne looks to be a great addition to the team more please
@artisanelectrics Жыл бұрын
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@ppdan Жыл бұрын
20:34 It's to lengthen the arc and make sure it is extinguished when switching off. The resistance of an arc is proportional to its length so having 2 contacts in series is roughly like having one contact that opens twice as much. Actually in this case there are 3 contacts to lengthen the arc (one on the negative and 2 on the positive wire).
@JustMeTalking Жыл бұрын
22:00 .... and a whacking big chimney stack casting shadow over them all...
@Trevor_Austin Жыл бұрын
If this system had an MCS certificate it would have been attracting the highest PV rates, 68p/kWh. Why forgo the generation and export tariff?
@andynoakes Жыл бұрын
100% - I think the inverter had packed up, so that would have been a cheap swap over and keep the extremely generous FIT rate.
@VinoVeritas_ Жыл бұрын
@@andynoakes What about replacing the panels? Had they packed up as well?
@VinoVeritas_ Жыл бұрын
Good call. The Feed In Tariff scheme rules allow the replacement of certain equipment, but not all of it on a willy nilly basis.
@HowardBurgess Жыл бұрын
This job doesn’t make much sense. In addition to losing the FIT payments, they’re only going from 10x200=2000W to 7x400=2800W. Even accounting for a slight degradation in performance over the years, seems a lot of expense (and waste) for an extra 800 watts.
@martinwhitaker5096 Жыл бұрын
Indeed... Maybe move the inverter when replacing it so it's no longer in the attic and everyone wins.
@TommySco89 Жыл бұрын
So you didn't carry out a proper survey, under quoted then made the customer pay for the extra work.. hardly what I'd call Artisan...
@mikethemask1525 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@asdfdfggfd Жыл бұрын
Never mind the standard approach for asbestos remediation like this is to leave them in place. This guy is a straight up con man.
@shropshireladoutdoors743 Жыл бұрын
That's what happens when sparks think they are solar fitters that roof job is a days work for two pv fitters and a couple of days for two good sparks what a joke
@bobbybudd2248 Жыл бұрын
Fair point. I bet it wasn’t cheap
@cgh2467 Жыл бұрын
Sounds to me like the customer had a choice.
@NordenEngineering9 ай бұрын
Galvanised unistrut was what was used in the early days on solar panels it will last years longer than the extruded aluminium rails your fitting but as you pointed out you had to use an approved product. I didnt like the drilling through the tiles although it was well supported underneath I couldn't see how it was water proof P.S. There are purpose built 17mm sockets made for unistrut.
@awesomedee5421 Жыл бұрын
What is wrong with Unistrut for solar panel? That is exactly one of those things that those are made for. I've seen it at many installations
@haldo691 Жыл бұрын
I have 12 panels on my garage mounted on unistrut theyve been up nearly 3years and not escaped yet
@Nicolas-qb3yg Жыл бұрын
@@haldo691, you are not meeting the UK Solar Mafia rule : next step spend £1000s more
@haldo691 Жыл бұрын
@@Nicolas-qb3yg yeah MCS is just another cartel if you don't pay for their "protection" you cant sell in their town
@TonyRule Жыл бұрын
8:34 Get better sockets - thin wall, like Koken. Also, you can just undo the nut behind the Unistrut on the threaded rod, spray a bit of WD-40 on the exposed thread on top, and the ones inside will spin off by hand.
@sdgelectronics Жыл бұрын
SPDs and associated connectors should be in a metal din rail enclosure, surely?
@sukhi17 Жыл бұрын
What a great video! Sad it ended! 😂 I wanted to see more!
@artisanelectrics Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@UndercoverFerret404 Жыл бұрын
How much do you lose on encapsulating the panels like that? They'll get quite a bit hotter, when there isn't room for any airflow.
@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse Жыл бұрын
Its to prevent birds nesting underneath though I guess it could be done in stainless steel mess too.
@TWMelvin1 Жыл бұрын
Do you think it's fair to charge the customer we for couple major issues missed when quoting - possible asbestos and rails not suitable. Should have been checked in advance imo
@CastleKnight7 Жыл бұрын
Do you think it’s fairer that the installer has to pay for these unforeseen major issues?
@Jay369 Жыл бұрын
Depends on how the conversations went really.
@nickbea3443 Жыл бұрын
@@CastleKnight7 I'm sure there was plenty enough Artisan margin to give away and keep the customer happy. Didn't anyone go into the loft to see the unistruts at quote time?
@SW-gu1wy5 ай бұрын
That bird protection makes it all look a bit like a spaceship 😂. But seriously just wondering about the restriction of airflow under the panel with this type of bird protection. Will the panels get hotter than panels without this protection, or even with the mesh bird guard? Thanks. Great videos 😊
@johnfenlon458 Жыл бұрын
Wow, That's Amazing to change new solar panels and install safety protection etc. Great work! Thumbs up! Cheers!
@artisanelectrics Жыл бұрын
Thanks John!
@JCCarpentry Жыл бұрын
Wayne’s a legend
@bigjd2k Жыл бұрын
The old fixings look totally over-engineered and bombproof and if not leaking, I'd just put the new panels on, after all it's been there for ages without any problems.
@gavjlewis Жыл бұрын
TBH I would have not even suggested removing the old panels. 2kW system to a 2.9kW system. 900w peak hardly seems worth it. Just replace the inverter with a hybrid inverter if the customer wants a battery system. If the customer wanted more solar then my first suggestion would be a couple of 455w panels on the garage roof @9:45.
@johncorbett1130 Жыл бұрын
Second load of panels and kit, ££££££ Bet he wished he had never gone for solar 😊
@MadMatty72 Жыл бұрын
Great job Wayne, what a pleasant chap. More Wayne I say.
@marymadigan9707 Жыл бұрын
Very nice and tidy workmanship guys I’m just in awe of the work ye carry out and all the fantastic knowledge ye have collage really paid off ye know your stuff 😎😎🇮🇪
@aarbee_ Жыл бұрын
waynes very popular eh 🤣 what a lad get him out the office more 😁
@darren100880 Жыл бұрын
Wayne is awesome in front of the camera 👍
@Michael-xs5ef Жыл бұрын
Wayne's piece to camera - very lucid - more please !
@DorsetSaferRoads Жыл бұрын
can you do a video talking about pros and cons of the various inverter/battery manfs please! having a tough time making a decision! Especially on the subject of integration with things like home assistant
@lewispearson Жыл бұрын
Whats the latest you guys have heard about the availability of the libbi? I'm hearing it keeps getting pushed back to address bugs.
@stephenwabaxter Жыл бұрын
My sister just had a first time solar installation completed on her house. Apparently the preparation of documentation etc was quite taxing. Expecting that the payback period will be 1/2 that is was 18 months ago.
@shropshireladoutdoors743 Жыл бұрын
Top tip don't get sparks to install solar pv just get a proper firm who know what they are doing me and my mate would have had the pannels of and new ones fitted in a day you don't need roofers just good pv fitters and and a good sparky
@bpomowe224 Жыл бұрын
Problem is that there's a panel boom, so lot of shoddy people out to make a quick buck. Hard to discern the bad apples.
@producerdude Жыл бұрын
More Wayne please! He's a natural!
@Deiphobuzz Жыл бұрын
Full suit up for a little sample of something that might contain a substance that might make you sick IF you start grinding and snorting it.. im all for safety but this is just getting out of control..
@Cheradanine Жыл бұрын
It's no wonder Artisan prices are so high. There was no reason to remove those struts....all youve done is drive the costs for the home-owner though the literal roof.
@randomcamerajunk6977 Жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for Warrens barnet.
@adamnoon9059 Жыл бұрын
Great vid, would love to see more of Wayne on the tools!
@SeanyyBoy_ Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the Libby install mate! Hope you show all the connections. Are the Libby batteries AC coupled?
@connordines667 Жыл бұрын
Can be either
@oliverdransfield7304 Жыл бұрын
Where’s Oscar?? He used to be amazing, so energetic! Great job Jordan
@adzie3229 Жыл бұрын
Oscar was such a lovely lad 👍 💪🏼
@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse Жыл бұрын
Nice neat install but do you not think by design the panels should have a local means of isolation on each panel be it even in the roof space ,so the cabling to the main panel is not always live when future work is done on the installation?
@artisanelectrics Жыл бұрын
Never heard of doing it that way
@edc1569 Жыл бұрын
Add dozens of extra points of failure and arcing, not a great plan.
@RB-lt8kt Жыл бұрын
The DC cables are live when there is daylight even when cloudy not just sunshine. Nice to see proper scaffolding and safety barriers. Do the ladders need a side bar ? Harnesses ? what did the job cost ?
@michaelorton6808 Жыл бұрын
excellent workmanship.
@shuhel02 Жыл бұрын
Siliconing the gap between the wall and trunking 👍
@steviec1871 Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe anyone over 50 would live long enough to actually save money on electricity especially if these things need replacing every few years..great video though…
@waynenrich Жыл бұрын
Good job as always Jordan and team
@craiglaing2417 Жыл бұрын
Awesome job guys 😎👌 You truly are Artisans
@waqasahmed939 Жыл бұрын
08:10 Tbf I think that's the same for a LOT of us end users. The way I see it I'm spending a few grand on the kit. I'd rather spend say a couple of hundred more on a proper job than pay less for a bad job, and then have to fix it anyway.
@jensschroder8214 Жыл бұрын
you built a solar skirt around it, but how are the solar panels vented on the back?
@SuPrAmAd101 Жыл бұрын
Unistrut was the "done" way of installing panels back in the day and i have to be honest, i dont think that was a bodge job at all. In fact it would more than likely be stronger than the way youve now fitted them. easy to call other companies cowboys and bodge when its not your job.. Calm down Andrew, back in your box.
@edc1569 Жыл бұрын
What on earth is wrong with unistrut! Are the roof trusses mcs approved
@freddiewithers9617 Жыл бұрын
Nice work! Who is the manufacturer of those bird protectors? Also would help wind deflection. They look really smart
@ha4641 Жыл бұрын
Thanks to the vids. At what point are you required to install optimisers?
@connordines667 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Great install! 😊
@shropshireladoutdoors743 Жыл бұрын
You think so
@4addevelopments139 Жыл бұрын
I was watching the new Peter Pan and Wendy with the Nephews last night. Didn’t realise Ruben was also an actor and playing the main roll. :)
@ohgoaway3610 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t this a feed in tariff system? With a high FIT income and deemed export?
@MarcusNailor Жыл бұрын
Wayne for the win! 🙌⚡
@markiansumaylo353211 ай бұрын
May i know what is the brand of suction cup lifter you use to lift the panels?
@oninbridders Жыл бұрын
Another inverter packed up.
@matthewchamberlain4571 Жыл бұрын
Reading the comments there seems to be some uncalled for comments. This video shows what can happen when you start dismantling an install. You can’t predict the future, should they on each job ask for tests of asbestos! I’d prefer the honest answer of this problem has arisen because of … we missed this because of … What would you like to do. The customer could of said no thank you! We don’t live in an perfect world and things unexpectedly arise from time to time!
@andrewrussack8647 Жыл бұрын
Yep. Risk balance. There is only so much time you can spend on a quote. Some you WILL get ‘not quite right’!
@JasonSheehy Жыл бұрын
What's normally done with the old solar panels? I realise they're inefficient by modern standards but are they re-used or recycled?
@artisanelectrics Жыл бұрын
Recycled always
@Yhoothoob Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the old inverter overheat in the loft?
@neilpowell9312 Жыл бұрын
Do the DC cables and the AC cables not need to be run in seperate trunking? Either that or the 50x50 trunking you use here actually comes with an option to create 2 different compartments, therefore separating the cables as required?
@CAF7000 Жыл бұрын
You need scaffold for this in the UK? No wonder the installs are so expensive, central Europe you don't need any certs to install mounting system and panels and most work is done from a ladder. Sparky just comes to terminate DC cables and everything downstream of that
@markdonoghue1013 Жыл бұрын
Life must be cheaper in Central Europe
@CAF7000 Жыл бұрын
@@markdonoghue1013 for the most part yeah but baked beans are about double the price!
@bpomowe224 Жыл бұрын
@@markdonoghue1013 also shorter.
@user-dh1cu2rf7h Жыл бұрын
Think you need to explain the difference to Lee in screw types@4,20 . He is clearly removing counter sunk screws he calls pan heads. Not good
@paulos9304 Жыл бұрын
Looking at the last 10 seconds of the video. The suns on the other side of the roof and your in total shade, didn't the owner want any pur on the other side.
@jasoncasey-eggleton4327 Жыл бұрын
can we have more wayne please
@rowifi Жыл бұрын
What was wrong with the original panels?
@timwild4433 Жыл бұрын
massive waste of money changing that uni strut no point unless they were changing the roof.
@jonathanfriedrich2941 Жыл бұрын
Why replacing those with new ones? Thats not really worth it. Energy wise and environmentally wise not at all.
@borama7845 Жыл бұрын
Especially if the other side of the roof looks just nice to install a second array of new solar panels (22:03). Even if it is not the optimal orientation, the newest generation of solar panels would still produce quite some energy.
@OMGitzEDD Жыл бұрын
what's happened to the old panels ?im looking to do a little solar back up for my garage and i don't want to buy all new gear if it doesn't work
@mitch123456789 Жыл бұрын
I like Wayne. More of Wayne please. Wayne Wayne Wayne
@Akz-xc1gu Жыл бұрын
Wayne is the new Corey 😂🎉
@barricade1205 Жыл бұрын
Please do a weekly show
@TheFlow2006 Жыл бұрын
why are there black metal panels around the pv panels? ist it for storm proofing? wouldn´t it be better to leave them off to get the heat away under the panels to get better efficeny? i never seen it here in gemany done like this maybe on an flat roof when they are put at an angle back to back so that it is closed of to the sides but above and below an panel is always an air gap
@kobirelf97 Жыл бұрын
They are to prevent birds from getting under the panels
@simcax6087 Жыл бұрын
These small systems are so not worth it, especially with that British weather. This upgrade/replacement probably never gonna pay for itself.