Lathe Trepanning - 99.9% Not Brain Surgery

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Artisan Makes

Artisan Makes

Күн бұрын

G'day everyone,
As the title suggest, today we will not be delving into the subject of archaic medicine (also called trepanning), but instead we will be looking at a more efficient way of creating large holes in workpieces. I am looking to create a few mounts for some nema 23 stepper motors (for a project that may or may not materialize). The holes I need are roughly 38mm. That is a relatively large hole. A hole saw is not great in steel and boring it to size would take a long time and would waste a lot of steel (although it is the method I was planning on using).
Trepanning seems like a good method to try out here. Trepanning is like parting, expect we are parting on the face of the workpiece. Because the only cut we need to complete is a thin groove, the cut can be done quicker with less material wasted. I will grind up a tool and attempt to cut aluminium and steel.
I also want to take a look at annular cutters for cutting smaller holes, roughly 18 mm and up. I have been recommended them for quite some time and given that I am going to be making a few extra die holders, I though that annular cutters would be the perfect tool for the job. In addition to testing them I will also make up a basic tool holder to use them with. I hope you enjoy the video.
#machining #annularcutters
Annular cutters
Annular cutter holder
Making an annular cutter holder
Trepanning
Lathe Trepanning
Timestamps
0:00 - Introduction
1:57 - Tool Grinding
3:04 - Lathe Trepanning
7:41 - Making an Annular Cutter Holder
15:16 - Testing The annular Cutters

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@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes 26 күн бұрын
Proud graduate of Hollywood Upstairs Medical College
@IcecalGamer
@IcecalGamer 26 күн бұрын
Call your accountant and tell him you've finally discovered annular cutters. There's no way back now 👍
@_Jester_
@_Jester_ 25 күн бұрын
Congrats! 🤕🤣
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 24 күн бұрын
Hollywood Upstairs Medical College gotta say hahahaha nice Do you also provide Imitation Botox injections ? Now I don't have the knowledge or tolls to test the claims-- I've heard a good source of rods is Photocopy - printers - fax machines Suppose to be quality ground rods
@RevengeCustomPaintCo
@RevengeCustomPaintCo 24 күн бұрын
artisanmakes, AKA Dr Nick!!
@philipzielinski
@philipzielinski 26 күн бұрын
The trick for the brain surgery version is getting the workpiece chucked up in the lathe.
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 25 күн бұрын
best comment so far......hah
@malteser0212
@malteser0212 26 күн бұрын
One thing you could try: instead of the positive rake you ground on the tool, try neutral or maybe even negative rake. The cutting edge will not only be stronger, but will also be less prone to be pulled into the material, thus be less likely to chatter or snap. Also, if anyhow possible, try making your clearances only as big as they need to be. Towards the inside of the hole your cutting, your tool goes straight down, right? If you'd grind it so that the inside would also follow the curve you're cutting, you'd get more cross secrion, and therefore a stronger tool. And every square millimeter helps, so even dishing it out just a little will improve your tool.
@Zsub1
@Zsub1 26 күн бұрын
Whoop, it's This Young Tony again with a gem!
@MrMartinSchou
@MrMartinSchou 26 күн бұрын
Just to put the price into perspective - let's assume you need to drill 100 holes. 73 seconds per hole for the annular cutter. 7,300 seconds in total, which is 2 hours and 2 minutes. ~300 seconds per hole for the deming bit. 30,000 seconds in total, which is 8 hours and 20 minutes. That's saving you 6 hours and 18 minutes. You paid $70 for one annular cut. That puts an estimated hourly value for those 100 holes made with the annular cutter at ~$11.10/hour, if we assume that the deming bit were free of charge. If you put the value of your own time at more than $11.10/hour, the annular cutter is worth it. This doesn't take the amount of material saved into account (as the pucks can be used for other things, and the cut-off point also depends on the number of holes you expect to cut. It also ignores opportunity cost, because if you have a project in mind where you'd need to make just 12 holes, the hour you'd need to spend making them with the deming bits might just make you forego the project entirely.
@richardmaka3720
@richardmaka3720 6 күн бұрын
I use anular cutter all the time use water to cool your bit it will last longer than oil
@daffylee1
@daffylee1 26 күн бұрын
Not to mention trapnning is also used for ‘o’ ring grooves in faces
@TalRohan
@TalRohan 26 күн бұрын
what aboout ahh rings...or boxing rings?
@AnonymousAnarchist2
@AnonymousAnarchist2 25 күн бұрын
​@@TalRohanAhh rings are done with a large tool, prefferabley an extremely expensive bench tool, simply drop it on the floor and the groves will appear permently on your face. As for the boxing rings, well those appear spontainously in the presence of an cartoon protaganist after a challenger appears, for best results spend a season building up the match.
@TalRohan
@TalRohan 24 күн бұрын
@@AnonymousAnarchist2 ROFLOL love it, the last Ah ring I made was when I lifted an anvil with an engine crane and mistakenly thought hitting it with a hammer was a good idea...my ears were ringing for several minutes ...something of an AHHHH the ringing....🤣
@Celciusify
@Celciusify 26 күн бұрын
If anyone wants to dive a bit deeper into how trepanning is implemented, look up David Wilks and his videos. He used to trepann Inconel and other difficult high value materials and made it look easy. These days Trepanning isn't as common as it used to be, since machines are so powerful that you an easily drill big holes and bore to size and you can't easily automate the process. You also need to find use for the material that is left over, which usually isn't economic unless the material is really expensive.
@graemewhite5029
@graemewhite5029 26 күн бұрын
Dave's videos are a big miss, he certainly was the master of trepanning and of making the tools. Just as an aside, if you're ever single point trepanning through a piece of steel plate, stop the process just before you break through and tap the slug out with a hammer. This stops the slug binding up and snapping the tool, BTGTTS !
@chipperkeithmgb
@chipperkeithmgb 25 күн бұрын
You are so right
@rogerwilliams2902
@rogerwilliams2902 25 күн бұрын
@@graemewhite5029 Hello, do you know what happened to David Wilks, hope hes ok ?.
@graemewhite5029
@graemewhite5029 25 күн бұрын
@@rogerwilliams2902 Hi Roger, I'm not sure but heard a rumour that he hadn't hit it off with the people he went to work for after he shut up his own business and the only comment I've seen from him was on a Haxby Shed treppaning video about two years ago where he said he was unwell, but hoped to be picking up soon ? Whatever the case, I hope he's doing well and sinking a few John Smith's !
@michaelallen1432
@michaelallen1432 20 күн бұрын
In a professional setting, I would agree, but for a hobby machinist, those little pucks and cylinders are going to be quite useful and often money is more valuable than time, compared to a professional setting where time is what your selling.
@iainburgess8577
@iainburgess8577 26 күн бұрын
Awesome video. I will note; I believe that the hole in the end of annular cutters is usually used for flood coolant; which will Also push the puck out. Any kind of center or pin or drill bit should allow you to center the hole location before you swap the annular cutter into your tailstock or mill. Cutting Edge Engineering had a video on an aftermarket tailstock flood cooling attachment he found; tgo for a mini lathe, you'll probably need to adapt that & make it yourself.
@PatrickHoodDaniel
@PatrickHoodDaniel 26 күн бұрын
I think I learn more from these experimental videos.
@bluejayfabrications2216
@bluejayfabrications2216 26 күн бұрын
I use angular cutters a lot in mag drills i my line of work and they are magic To help with the birds nest i tend to peck at the part it seems to have no negative affects on the part or bits
@branchandfoundry560
@branchandfoundry560 25 күн бұрын
Scrolled down to look before suggesting peck drilling. I find it very helpful too.
@liamobrien9451
@liamobrien9451 26 күн бұрын
For hole saws on thicker plate, first of all you need an absolute flood of coolant, as well as dropping your rpm a lot. For chip evacuation, you can drill a small hole in the path of the cutter, so the stuff that usuallly gums up the teeth has somewhere to go. You will still need to clear up the channel when it gets too clogged, but its far less frequent than without the hole. Source: have had the displeasure of using hole saws far too often on 316L plate
@branchandfoundry560
@branchandfoundry560 25 күн бұрын
Agreed. The tangential evacuation hole makes a world of difference--in both wood and metal!
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes 24 күн бұрын
You are that’s what I can’t do on my mill. Once it drops below 4-500 rpm the torque takes a real nose dive and it’s very easy to stall it
@bmalovic
@bmalovic 24 күн бұрын
@@artisanmakes so first job shoud be to make additional set of pulleys, that will drop rpm and increase torque :)
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes 24 күн бұрын
That’ll be the way to go. The top end of the spindle uses a custom spline profile to connect to the pulley/drive belt and I have to gotten around to making the broaches for it yet. Cheers
@bmalovic
@bmalovic 22 күн бұрын
@@artisanmakes Can you fix new pulleys to existing ones? So you escape spindle and it's profile...
@Dogfather66227
@Dogfather66227 25 күн бұрын
As a data point I made some simple holders for my annular cutters - basically just a close fitting socket with a locking screw to bear on the annular cutter flat. Then a 18mm round shank with three shallow flats to prevent twisting in the tailstock chuck. Runout is minimal. I don’t use a plunger either as plugs tend to fall out due to the relief ground on the inside of the cutters. Clearly yours is far more video-worthy however! Interesting findings.
@HexenzirkelZuluhed
@HexenzirkelZuluhed 26 күн бұрын
Ha. Before the video turned to them, I was gonna suggest those (annular cutters). I got some "cheap" ones from "Vevor", which turned out to be quite good (even up to 2 inch). I just put them in a collet, since I feel the pin hurts more than it helps. Great job!
@christiantrab6160
@christiantrab6160 25 күн бұрын
I have looked at them many times, but have not pulle dthe trigger yet, how long do they last before they get dull, is it something like a big drill bit, or do they last longer? I can see there are both HSS and carbide models to choose from.
@stephenhauer9055
@stephenhauer9055 25 күн бұрын
@@christiantrab6160 You can resharpen or get them resharpened once they get dull. Only used mine twice on aluminium and they are still sharp as is so can't really give you an answer as to how long they take before they get dull.
@keithammleter3824
@keithammleter3824 26 күн бұрын
Here are two tips for drilling holes accurate to size and clean finish, without resorting to boring or spending good money on reamers:- 1. Feed the drill bit in until reasonable size chips come out. Then back the drill out briefly and allow the hole to be reasonably chip-free, then feed the drill in again. Repeat as required for the depth of hole. 2. I have a set of drill bits in 0.1 mm increments. If I need, say, an accurate clean finish hole of 23 mm diameter, I first drill with a 22.9 mm drill bit, then take the hole to size with a 23 mm drill bit. This gives a reamer-like clean hole and spreads the wear in drill bits you wouldn't otherwise use much.
@contomo5710
@contomo5710 26 күн бұрын
i havent adopted a lathe yet, and at the time neither had i a milling machine. but i remember buying two of those with carbide inserts brazed to them, because i had to drill 25mm and 26mm holes in a 20mm thick aluminum plate.. and i have to say they worked perfectly. not only can i say that the price was alright compared to the one time use hole bores, but also was the diameter so much more accurate. they fit perfectly and snugly, not oversized in the slightest. I like them
@frogandspanner
@frogandspanner 26 күн бұрын
I converted my benchtop milling machine (Sieg SX2P) to CNC, and use that for trepanning a hole for a diffusion pump on a high-vacuum base plate, and for feed-throughs.
@higgs923
@higgs923 25 күн бұрын
Nicely shot video. It took me back a ways. Trepanning can be an education in the causes of chatter. Retired prototype machinist here.
@bmalovic
@bmalovic 24 күн бұрын
Chatter always have just 3 "To" reasons... To high speed To low feed To wide tool The trick is just to find right corelation for your specific machine. And in this case.. 4-th rider is low rigidity of the machine. But.. poking around with first 3, and not be too greedy, should give you a good result. Been there, done that, with even smaller lathe.
@Slemi
@Slemi 26 күн бұрын
If you ever have the will and time you can try to put trepanning tool on the other side turned upside down and cut it so that cutter is pushed away from the workpiece when catching. I am really interested to see the result.
@markramsell454
@markramsell454 26 күн бұрын
Think I watched a trepanning video where the tool was used to cut inside clearance. It makes a wider groove but it worked. The method was... cut some of the outer dia. then move inward to cut the clearance area. Then you can move out and repeat. Wonder if it would work for you.
@David-hm9ic
@David-hm9ic 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for this! It was very painful to turn brass into chips a few days ago. I had to make a bushing that had an OD of 2.300"/58.42mm, an ID of 1.885"/47.88mm and a depth of .875"/22.23mm. I hated to scrap that much brass. The workpiece was 2.5" x 6" (63.5 x 152 mm) and cost $172 USD. That's $28.67/26.43 EUR per inch (25.4mm) so I converted over half of the value into chips. A 1.5"/75mm x 7/8"/22mm disc is still a very useful chunk of brass.
@howder1951
@howder1951 25 күн бұрын
Great video and great demo. Trepanning takes nerves of steel, the annular cutter just melts that anxiety away, cheers!
@williambell7763
@williambell7763 24 күн бұрын
Tip for hole saws on deeper holes, drill a small hole along the circumference of the cut on the side that is the waste part. Main trouble hole saws have is clearing chips, so a few holes allows for better evacuation
@jamesmccomb6217
@jamesmccomb6217 26 күн бұрын
Annular cutters have shaved minutes off performing labotomys, thanks for the recommendation 😅
@DISCOSHOEBOX
@DISCOSHOEBOX 25 күн бұрын
I am a fan of your experimental videos. Nice work with the annular cutter.
@tullgutten
@tullgutten 25 күн бұрын
For using hole saws on anything thicker than it's own teeth, wood and steel. Start cutting then when you have the circle drill one or more chip evacuation holes in the circular trail and keep the big side of the hole innside then the chips will fall nicely down through the hole without blocking the cutter and you won't need to lift it all the time to get away the chips
@cooperised
@cooperised 25 күн бұрын
Great tip. Works especially well on wood because cutting oil can make the chips stick to the teeth and fail to evacuate through a small hole, but still worth a try. Small correction, the critical thickness is less than the depth of the teeth - it's the depth of cut that starts to lead to chips packing in the gullets, which is typically about half the tooth height but depends on the tooth geometry. It isn't much, anyway!
@ourtube4266
@ourtube4266 25 күн бұрын
I love the project focused videos. Yes a structured dive into the theory is valuable, but application is where the information actually gets retained. I recommend you and Quinn to anybody remotely interested in metalworking.
@bmalovic
@bmalovic 24 күн бұрын
Nope.. theory is just 2000 years of application :) If you learn theory, but realy learn it, understand it... you can implement it in any specific application. If you learn just one application, you have no clue what wiill happen in another one. And then you are stuck. Practice is everything, theory is nothing... is just excuse for bad and lazy students :)
@ttargetss
@ttargetss 25 күн бұрын
I love that you discovered annular cutters. I have to admit being disappointed that you used an angle grinder instead of the hacksaw with a diamond grit blade on that HSS. Joking of course! Love your content!!!
@nicjgoss7069
@nicjgoss7069 26 күн бұрын
Love this young Tony
@davidt8438
@davidt8438 8 күн бұрын
Really well produced video, and really nice lathe/mill work.
@RCake
@RCake 22 күн бұрын
I loved this, thanks so much for sharing mate 🤩
@JackGladstoneHolroyde
@JackGladstoneHolroyde 26 күн бұрын
I'll be recommending to the neurosurgical team on Monday that we purchase a set of annular cutters. Would the heat of the autoclave effect the temper of the cutter?
@billshiff2060
@billshiff2060 6 күн бұрын
Regarding Trepanning. I had a job once that required 3" dia stock 6" long to be turned into special rollers with a 3" long center portion and 1 1/2 long 1 1/4" diameter hubs on either side. I ended up with a 2 tool trepanning holder with each tool doing half the work mounted in the tailstock. 1 would cut the OD and half the floor and the other would do the ID and the other half of the floor. then part off the remaining rings. Since both tools vibrate at different frequencies they couldn't reinforce each others chatter and damped themselves out. Each tool could be much thinner than the groove so clearance was easy, they could each be angled to ease the clearance problem. So it was really like 2 boring bars operating together. |___|
@edsmachine93
@edsmachine93 25 күн бұрын
Nice video. Thanks for sharing. 👍
@TalRohan
@TalRohan 26 күн бұрын
I was building up a nice bout of trepannation waiting to watch this one. The annular cutter looks more like the medical tools I've seen btw, the really old ones look more like they were made for pulling teeth. great video with lots of good information ....yay for annular cutters
@crazyflyboy30
@crazyflyboy30 23 күн бұрын
I'm way ahead of you because I made a cutter like that out of a big end mill and it worked awesome. I used it to a 11 1/4" Brake disc out of 1/4 " Stainless Steel and also cut out the 4" center of it.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes 22 күн бұрын
Fair enough. I don’t think my lathe would be up to that task. Cheers
@crazyflyboy30
@crazyflyboy30 22 күн бұрын
@@artisanmakes I didn't clarify that the end mill was carbide and I cut down in to a cutter about like yours .
@ImolaS3
@ImolaS3 25 күн бұрын
I love annular cutters in the mill. So satisfying and the finish is awesome. ALthoguh they are not cheap, sfar mine seem to lat a long time
@billshiff2060
@billshiff2060 6 күн бұрын
I use those annular cutters any time I can. They out perform any drill by a large margin and need no pilot hole. I even use them on CNC work. The downside as you mentioned is cost. They are spendy and are difficult but not impossible to re sharpen when needed.
@Bearcats737
@Bearcats737 26 күн бұрын
Ive added a hole that Ts into the centering pin hole and run through tool coolant on my lathe. I also use mine for roughing counter bores being as i can remove much more material much faster than a boring bar.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 26 күн бұрын
Fantastic work, dude! 😃 Really interesting tools indeed! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@richardcrook1320
@richardcrook1320 11 күн бұрын
Re turning the morse taper holder - you can buy morse taper blank arbors, with ground & case hardened tapers, & soft machinable ends... They're not very expensive, and make the job a lot faster & easier.
@patrickbeck4062
@patrickbeck4062 26 күн бұрын
I was going to try and find or make an annular cutter arbor about 4 years ago. I started just using them in an ER32 collet temporarily, but for me it works fine even without the pin, so it became the permanent arbor.
@RustyInventions-wz6ir
@RustyInventions-wz6ir 10 күн бұрын
Very nice work mr. Interesting. Something I haven’t done yet
@gianlucatomasello9492
@gianlucatomasello9492 25 күн бұрын
At work we use TCT hole saw to core out the bottom of the tanks we make to weld the discharge piping. These tools are pretty fragile if used incorrectly, but when used correctly they last a lot
@apollolux
@apollolux 25 күн бұрын
Ever since seeing annular cutters on Adam Savage's Tested channel I've been looking forward to seeing annular cutters used for cutting holes in other heavy-duty machine-based cutting operations. :)
@alanzimmerman9270
@alanzimmerman9270 21 күн бұрын
I’ve used annular cutters on aluminum tube for a trailer cross bar and they work well.
@1crazypj
@1crazypj 26 күн бұрын
Trepanning on a small lathe is always a challenge but isn't something done particularly often by most people I was taught on full size 'industrial' machines and even then it wasn't 'easy' to learn feed rates and rpm but chatter was less of a problem. A few years ago I bought a trim router for a completely different reason, (bit of woodworking) made a 3/4" thick aluminium base plate to mount it on drill press.(plus use instead of a Dremel as it was designed for side loads and has many times the power) I tried clamping to side of lathe tool-post as an experiment. With 3mm TiAN coated milling cutter it worked great in 6mm steel plate, cut dozens of disc's even though rpm was a bit high. I don't think I'll go back to conventional trepanning tool although I may buy a variable speed trim router in the future. Did the annular cutters come with rpm recommendations?
@matthewchastain136
@matthewchastain136 25 күн бұрын
Annular cutters are kick ass.
@TheUncleRuckus
@TheUncleRuckus 25 күн бұрын
Yeah hole saws suck in steel over about 1/2" you really need an annular cutter for that job if drilling is how you want to make a hole. Great video as always! 👍👍
@TechGorilla1987
@TechGorilla1987 26 күн бұрын
I have a general medical license from Guyana Public Medical Middle School. Class of '99. I do my residency at the local grocery stores.
@PaulSteMarie
@PaulSteMarie 11 күн бұрын
The easiest way i know to get the clearance right is to blue up the end if the tool with dykem and use a radius gage to trace a radius tangent at the corner and slightly smaller than the outer radius you're trying to cut. Oh, and that bird's nest at the end is terrifying. A giant flail of razor sharp steel ribbons moving at high speed. You need to peck the cutter to break those chips and stop them from becoming a hazard.
@drogue7072
@drogue7072 24 күн бұрын
I use annular cutters when drilling truck chassis’s. When they become dull we just send them off to our tool grinder guy in Sydney. A fraction of the cost of replacement and good as new..
@TheChillieboo
@TheChillieboo 24 күн бұрын
this is really helpful! thanks
@madmancrow7659
@madmancrow7659 24 күн бұрын
thanx for your opinion, that was great help, Im somewhat a newbie. If I can, I'd rather buy what works Than have had wasted money by trying to save
@kevinsellsit5584
@kevinsellsit5584 20 күн бұрын
You should look into a quality diamond grinding wheel. One of my favorite shop tools is a very expensive eyeglass grinder that was damaged, but the motor and grinder were (and are) still running perfectly. Ideal for tool steel or carbide and it only cost me $30. The motor alone would have been hundreds. Used Lapidary equipment is also great for sharpening.
@jml3327
@jml3327 23 күн бұрын
Ive been a subscriber for a while now and im stunned you never thought to use annular cutters!
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes 23 күн бұрын
When they start at $70 and up you can probably guess why.
@thedragonlizard
@thedragonlizard 26 күн бұрын
2 or 3 Nema 24 mounts? Sounds suspiciously like a CNC conversion. Excited to see how you tackle it.
@melgross
@melgross 15 күн бұрын
I’ve moved to carbide annular cutters. I’ve found that expensive cutters aren’t any better than some inexpensive brands and that’s something I normally wouldn’t say. I’ve had good luck with the brand ACTOOL. I don’t know if they’re over there as well, but as they come from China, they may be. If you cut stainless, carbide is almost required. Otherwise it’s a real pain and damaging the bits isn’t that difficult.
@natthewsmith
@natthewsmith 25 күн бұрын
Minimizing front rake on the tool might also help with strength and rigidity. Only need like 7deg.
@scaler1179
@scaler1179 26 күн бұрын
I have a project I'm working on that this video created the solution for me. 👍
@angelramos-2005
@angelramos-2005 25 күн бұрын
Yap! Great tool.Thank you.
@HappilyHomicidalHooligan
@HappilyHomicidalHooligan 24 күн бұрын
The reason that cutter is doing so well is it's the bit used in a Magnetic Drill that's used to drill large holes in steel plate/I-Beams... This type of work is EXACTLY what that bit is designed for...
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes 24 күн бұрын
I think you are missing the point of the video a bit but yes, it’s a very good tool for the job
@fuzzy1dk
@fuzzy1dk 26 күн бұрын
17:06 it is basically trepanning with six tools at the same time ;)
@AstroGhoulWizard
@AstroGhoulWizard 19 күн бұрын
i use annular cutters in a mag-drill at work regularly and as long as they're not chipped they just eat through 20mm steel
@gags730
@gags730 24 күн бұрын
Surface Finish - Try pulling out more. You have to clear the chips. You also reduce the heat too. Also try a reamer at the end.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes 24 күн бұрын
Yeah but that wasn’t the point of the test, it was more of a as fast as possible comparison. Of course the surface will suffer a bit
@noallegiances8676
@noallegiances8676 25 күн бұрын
One more suggestion - whenever you are cutting/ shaping high speed Steel always keep it cool, do not let it get too hot, to prevent annealing. Otherwise good video.
@TheIntermont
@TheIntermont 24 күн бұрын
Sir, high speed steel is designed to take incredible temperatures without annealing. That’s why it works so well cutting metal.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes 24 күн бұрын
M2 high speed steel can take the temperatures we were throwing at when grinding. It’s not going to affect the temper a whole lot
@rasmus1600
@rasmus1600 26 күн бұрын
When drilling holes, with either a twist drill or annular cutter, release the tension on the drill a bit. So drill line normal until you see the chips are like 100mm long, lift the drill a bit and drill again. This way you keep the chips small enough they don't make a birdsnest and mess up any finishing. Too me too many years to learn that
@branchandfoundry560
@branchandfoundry560 25 күн бұрын
You're correct. Peck drilling is the way to go 👍🙂
@paulypaulypauly8011
@paulypaulypauly8011 3 күн бұрын
@artisanmakes - Aout your lathe. I have one the same and haven’t figured out one thing. There are two sight glasses to see how much oil is in the lower and upper gear case. Mine leaks, I think from the top gear case. Filling up the top gear case is easy ; remove the top cover oil hole screw, and fill it up. How do you drain, and fill the lower case? Maybe I’m missing everything! Thanks for any advice.
@donavinnezar
@donavinnezar 26 күн бұрын
i do my fare share of trepanning , currenly machining some cable wheels (680mm diameter) and the faces of the boss need grooves for a labyrinth dust cover , the lathe is old and needs some tlc to eliminate the chatter wich is whats making the proces hell
@rekinek1111
@rekinek1111 26 күн бұрын
9:34 That's a one, fat ass cut. I love it
@keithammleter3824
@keithammleter3824 26 күн бұрын
For making holes at larger than readily available drill sizes, trepanning will mean much lower tool cost. But you should have a means of capturing the puck - you don't want a lump of steel flying out and whacking you.
@tonyandjackieholmes9546
@tonyandjackieholmes9546 25 күн бұрын
Another great vid - however i'd appreciate if you'd say what steel you're using for these projects - cheers
@procyonia3654
@procyonia3654 26 күн бұрын
On a small lathe trepan some distance down then move over trepan alittle then go back to where you stated and go further This adds some forgiveness when the tool does push away
@mealex303
@mealex303 26 күн бұрын
uee your mill to add some more relief slits into the walls of your hole saw bits it will keep it cooler and helps with chips
@alan-sk7ky
@alan-sk7ky 25 күн бұрын
Coolant up the middle of the trepanning cutters too with a bit of fiddling about.
@fuzzy1dk
@fuzzy1dk 26 күн бұрын
0:51 often a shallow pocket for location and a much smaller hole will do
@jeremyfmoses
@jeremyfmoses 26 күн бұрын
I don't know anything about making tools - would it be a good idea to harden and temper any cutter you make?
@hazza2247
@hazza2247 25 күн бұрын
annular cutters are the best
@matejmuzila9967
@matejmuzila9967 17 күн бұрын
Hold the tool upside down and run spindle backwards. This way it won't bind to the workpiece if any flex in toolpost occurs
@brucemaley
@brucemaley 24 күн бұрын
It's time to make an endmill holder for the tailstock. Then you will not have so many folks yelling about an endmill in a drill chuck.🤣
@tstthomason
@tstthomason 24 күн бұрын
HA I’m watching this before taking my adhd meds and I absolutely misheard “a 38-ish mm hole” as “a 38 inch mm hole” I rewatched those 5 seconds like four times
@jackacres3936
@jackacres3936 24 күн бұрын
I have the same lathe, and it sounds exactly like yours, ,what oil are you using in the gearbox’s?
@michaelallen1432
@michaelallen1432 20 күн бұрын
This went so much better than his brain surgery video...
@travisjohnson124
@travisjohnson124 26 күн бұрын
Mitsibishi tooling makes a Treepan tool with different sizes of id tools
@MrReichennek
@MrReichennek 26 күн бұрын
halfway through typing my comment about Annular cutters, "So i have some Annular cutters"
@MrReichennek
@MrReichennek 26 күн бұрын
I use them even on a full sized mill whenever i need to use the manual machines at work, they require so little tool pressure and machine power really helps deal with stress on the body and the machines
@billsmith5166
@billsmith5166 26 күн бұрын
Was turning the taper detrepanning?
@rileyfriedman6596
@rileyfriedman6596 24 күн бұрын
annular cutter could be a good alternative to a hole saw
@vasyapupken
@vasyapupken 24 күн бұрын
1:13 - or you are using it wrong ) to cut a thick material with a hole saw you need to drill some holes first (about 3) which will slightly intersect the line of cut. those holes are needed to clear the chips from a hole saw blade.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes 24 күн бұрын
And my mill isn’t powerful enough for use it anyway
@MyTubeSVp
@MyTubeSVp 25 күн бұрын
8:42 Side project #1… (I’m glad I’m not alone!)
@tedlee5593
@tedlee5593 25 күн бұрын
Why not use an small end mill mounted on a motor for this purpose? Is it done this way?
@william5694
@william5694 20 күн бұрын
If you peck with the annular cutter it breaks the chips and can mitigate the birds nest.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes 20 күн бұрын
you still have to pull it out with the pliers... on the lathe anyway
@aj7utu
@aj7utu 10 күн бұрын
Put 60˚ center on both sides. Go half way and flip.
@pabloc8006
@pabloc8006 25 күн бұрын
buenicimo
@teddyturn6712
@teddyturn6712 26 күн бұрын
16:09, cant you go in small steps so the chips are shorter and fly away instead of curling on the tool? like you’d do with drilling
@y2ksw1
@y2ksw1 26 күн бұрын
No hacksaw today? 😅
@davideyres955
@davideyres955 20 күн бұрын
Humm. I’d be worried what would happen if the puck jams up between the tool and the chuck/workpiece.
@grahammctygue724
@grahammctygue724 26 күн бұрын
When I needed to I shaped hollow tube to outer ,inner dia.slowed feed rate bless you 😊😊
@sayeager5559
@sayeager5559 26 күн бұрын
If his intro makes you curious google Amanda Feilding trepanation.
@windsanluispotosi
@windsanluispotosi 17 күн бұрын
Change the cutting angle to avoid draw-in. There is always a setback when one tries to enhance techniques.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes 17 күн бұрын
Then it just chatters. That’s the problem with these smaller lathes
@lolcec81
@lolcec81 25 күн бұрын
Класс!
@MrBCRC
@MrBCRC 22 күн бұрын
Where was the hacksaw?
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