I Finally Bought A New Lathe - Hafco Al 250G

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Artisan Makes

Artisan Makes

Күн бұрын

G'day everyone,
I finally bought a new lathe to replace the old 7x14 mini lathe (Sieg C3). I wasn't planning on replacing the old lathe for another 1 or 2 years, especially after adding the big 3HP motor to it. But it still struggled to machine large diameter bar stock, which is something that I needed to do for an upcoming project. With that in mind, I decided to replace the lathe.
I've bought a Hafco Al250 G. The total cost was just under $2700 Aud. It was on sale due to end of financial year sales, but it normally retails close to $3000.
It is marginally bigger than the old Sieg, its a 250 x 500 lathe, but it is much heavier and solid. About 4 times an heavy. It is comparable to a Sieg SC6 or a Precision Matthews PM1022v. However this has the advantage of having a geared headstock spindle and a proper gearbox for the headstock and leadscrew. Which means no gear changes. This also gives the added benefit of giving the spindle a mechanical advantage when running speeds lower than 1400 rpm.
The lathe also has hardened ways, which is an improvement over the old lathe. It has a much larger chuck and carriage, which should help increase rigidity when doing large work. I also think that at this size its no longer a mini lathe, rather it is a bench lathe.
Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
2:04 - Unboxing and getting the lathe up onto the workbench
5:04 - General Overview & Power feed
10:08 - Power feed and Spindle Gearbox
13:18 - Chuck, Electronics and Backsplash
17:09 - First Test Cuts
19:59 - Run Out and Chuck Cleaning
22:11 - Test Cuts in 42mm Steel
#machining #lathe #newmachineday
New Lathe Day
Hafco Al 250g

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@j.dietrich
@j.dietrich Жыл бұрын
A tip for anyone who needs to move pallets over grass: if you lay a ladder on the ground and grease up the stiles, you can easily slide a several hundred kilo pallet across it by hand. With two ladders, you can build a kind of crude railway, sliding the pallet from one to the other in a leapfrog fashion.
@sophakpeth4346
@sophakpeth4346 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that
@gutsngorrrr
@gutsngorrrr Жыл бұрын
Yep, that certainly works and works well.
@Tympan
@Tympan Жыл бұрын
Awesome tip! Thanks a lot.
@dieSpinnt
@dieSpinnt Жыл бұрын
Great Tip! As grease you can use soft soap [1] ... if you want to reuse your ladder or wooden beams:) [1] potassium soaps, "green soap", in German "Schmierseife", I am not sure if "soft soap" is the correct term, as it seems it is also used for hand-washing soaps and the like. I mean the soap with a very viscous consistency, often used to grease rubber when mounting car-windows f.e.
@osgeld
@osgeld Жыл бұрын
@@dieSpinnt yea, I have used "dish soap for cleaning eating and cookware" before, not on a ladder but just some boards acting as runners, most of it is harmless to yards and washes off easily enough with a hose. Fun side note for lawncare, there was a fad of "liquid aeration" a few years ago... it was a very mild dish soap in a hose end spray bottle
@fakerfake1
@fakerfake1 Жыл бұрын
It’s so awesome getting to watch you grow in your machining capabilities! I remember starting out I had a little grizzly lathe and an angle grinder in my parents garage, and now I’ve got 4 full size manual lathes, 2 CNC lathes, 3 manual mills, 4 CNC mills (one of which is horizontal), several surface grinders, heat treat equipment, and much more. It’s just so cool watching others get to expand their machines and abilities as well.
@onsecondthought4174
@onsecondthought4174 Жыл бұрын
Yeah sure you do. And I have a bridge for sale, 2 high rises, and a donut stand. Maybe some people will believe your BS but I can spot BS a mile away.
@sasukecruz2000
@sasukecruz2000 Жыл бұрын
dude that’s awesome! how did you expand your machine collection?
@fakerfake1
@fakerfake1 Жыл бұрын
@@sasukecruz2000 Hey, thanks man! And thanks for asking! I started machining in high-school with my little grizzly lathe, then joined the military. When I got out, there was a few months where I just didn’t know what the next step was, so I just started messing around with making guns on my mini lathe. A neighbor saw me and offered me a position as an aerospace machinist for the company he was working at, so I did that for about 2 years and learned a ton. The company got bought out, and they decided to outsource machining and sell a bunch of equipment for relatively cheap. So I scrambled on the opportunity, got a loan, bought the equipment and made a bid to be their outsource company. Did that for about 4 years, and made enough to purchase a shop (instead of renting) and buy several more pieces of equipment. Then the company I was doing the work for went under, so I switched to gunsmithing, and I’ve done that for over a decade. I’m very lucky with how it all happened, I was at the right place at the right time and was also willing to take on a huge risk. I know most people aren’t going to expand as rapidly as I did, but I still get excited when other people get to purchase equipment that expands their capabilities.
@arthurmoore9488
@arthurmoore9488 Жыл бұрын
@@fakerfake1 That's an awesome story. It sounds like a big risk, but at the same time you had a major opportunity you were able to take advantage of. I'm glad it worked out for you. Not surprised the company went under, given they decided to outsource their machining to the person they just fired. Not that using you was bad, in fact it was probably the best deal they could have gotten. Rather their costs went up, and control went down. If you hadn't stepped in, then they'd be working with a brand new manufacturer who didn't have that personal relationship and knowledge.
@gvet47
@gvet47 Жыл бұрын
It did seem to be a lot noisier than what I would have expected. Yes it needs a quick change tool oost and DRO. I'd love to have an upgraded size.
@randyshoquist7726
@randyshoquist7726 Жыл бұрын
Turning between centers can be a very useful method. You don't need to switch the chuck out for the faceplate and M4 center. Just put a piece of round stock in the chuck and turn a 60° point, and drive the dog with a chuck jaw. I keep such a shop made center and give it a skim cut to true it up every time I use it, so it's always perfect. I made a parallel clamp style dog that fits anything from tiny to about 70mm so I don't need a whole set of dogs.
@gangleweed
@gangleweed Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I do the same, been doing that since my apprenticeship days in the 50's.
@merlinpearson4360
@merlinpearson4360 Жыл бұрын
that intro had such This Old Tony energy, I love it
@MichaelKJohnson
@MichaelKJohnson Жыл бұрын
Consider some neodymium magnets in the gear sump to catch chips. It doesn't take much to take out the spindle bearings. If you have a oil drip channel going to the bearings put a few very small magnets in it.
@hillonwheels8838
@hillonwheels8838 Жыл бұрын
The paint on the gear was probably used to check gear mesh. I used paint to check the mesh on the ring and pinion on my truck when I rebuilt it. I want this lathe and will be getting one once I get my shop set up. Looks to be easier to set up and get going then the mini lathe which works for me. Looking forward to seeing you useing this to make some cool stuff.
@davidbillington9654
@davidbillington9654 Жыл бұрын
Nice purchase and hardened ways this time. There was a multi part article by a guy that had bought a Chinese gear head lathe much like this new one in Model Engineer or similar and he detailed the stripping fettling and re-assembly. He was impressed by the quality and accuracy of the machining but not the assembly, likening the assemblers to monkeys IIRC. One main thing he brought up and I've seen it elsewhere as well, there was still casting sand in the headstock which he thoroughly removed and repainted with oil resistant paint inside. No magnets are going to do anything about loose sand in the headstock if any were to break free.
@elizachristensen
@elizachristensen Жыл бұрын
these beds while induction hardened are actually still just soft enough to scrape, the standard Sandvik scraper inserts hold up better than my Biax blades but you simply need to lap your blades more frequently. the fitting work on these al-250's specifically is hit and miss, one of my students who did a fantastic job scraping in his lathe found the leadscrew support bracket was so severely undersize that engaging the half nuts would cause the motor to fail. hafco replaced the motor under warranty at least twice from memory but when shown the root issue they simply swapped brackets with those on the showroom floor/their stock until they found a slightly thicker bracket. upon measuring it back at the shop it still needed a fairly thick brass shim to get it perfect.
@doingstufforatleasttrying4843
@doingstufforatleasttrying4843 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I cried when you cut those wires to the safety switch. I would have loosened both terminals and moved the one wire to the other and tightened the screws again and put it back in. BASICALLY BOTH WIRES ON 1 TERMINAL.This way if you needed to return it back it would only take a few seconds and nothing gets cut. I’m sorry, it’s my OCD KICKING IN. GREAT VIDEO.ENJOY THE NEW TOY.
@Kineth1
@Kineth1 11 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. I always prefer to make any modifications reversible.
@ddexter8723
@ddexter8723 11 ай бұрын
Yeah I had the same reaction plus you can return it to factory if needed
@melgross
@melgross 11 ай бұрын
Me too. It’s a problem with a deliberate disregard for safety.
@simonharris8817
@simonharris8817 10 ай бұрын
​@@melgrossA deliberate disregard for safety? No offense meant but hes an adult he can make his own arrangments around safety.
@melgross
@melgross 10 ай бұрын
@@simonharris8817 well, good luck to you. The reason why we have safety rules is because people are bad at “making their own arrangements around safety.”
@MrBricks148
@MrBricks148 Жыл бұрын
So glad you bought this, I've been mulling over this purchase for weeks and you've really helped. Thanks!
@warbirdwf
@warbirdwf Жыл бұрын
Wow, congratulations on your new lathe! What a step up in capabilities vs. the mini-lathe. You have to still have respect for the little lathe too. It really treated you well even with it's limitations. I'm looking forward to what you make on this new lathe in your upcoming videos!
@mv2442
@mv2442 Жыл бұрын
I love the way this channel is moving forward, have been watching (on and off to be honest) since you bought that little bugger lathe, then came the mill, and soo on. Over those years I have bought different equipment for my shop, I am in Europe soo most off it was big used old stuff, but I still found these videos helpful. Keep up the good work!
@BSMikkel
@BSMikkel Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the new lathe. Looking forward to follow this step up (I'm coming from a Vevor MX210V wich has been a dissap...a challenge so far). However I had semi-good experience with their costumer service, which was a surprise.
@Horus9339
@Horus9339 Жыл бұрын
I cannot think of anyone that is more deserving, well done Sir and I look forwards to the upgrades and the new parts/tools you will be fabricating.
@campbellmorrison8540
@campbellmorrison8540 11 ай бұрын
I too used to have a mini lathe and it drove me crazy due to almost everything I wanted to do would fit and required so much mucking around to complete anything. I then purchased an old Emco V10p which is a similar size to yours and my life has changed. I was so impressed I then went out and bought a separate mill and that was pure luxury. I'll bet you wont regret your new lathe
@ImolaS3
@ImolaS3 Жыл бұрын
15 years after selling my old Colchester Student, i went a similar route, small lathe very much like your old one, kept working on it to overcome limitations and finally realised a new, larger lathe was called for. Much the same as yours but with DRO and variable drive (actually the same lathe as Blonihacks uses). never regretted it!! I have a Sanou 160mm 6 jaw chuck with around 10-micron runout on a gauge pin - i tapped it in with DTI and soft blow mallet with the huk mount nuts just tight. Be interested to see the runout on yours after tapping in and the cleaning
@TheRecreationalMachinist
@TheRecreationalMachinist Жыл бұрын
As a mini lathe user myself, I'll watch your progress with the new machine with interest. Looks to be much more substantial, yet still small enough for the small workshop 👍 🇬🇧
@Bob_Adkins
@Bob_Adkins Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your purchase! Looks like a *solid* little lathe!
@jjcc8379
@jjcc8379 Жыл бұрын
I didn't expect it so soon either :o . Or the last video. Kudos and cheers on the future projects you'll be able to do !
@michelecrown2426
@michelecrown2426 Жыл бұрын
Nice upgrade. Looking forward to seeing what improvements you make for it.
@kenman6721
@kenman6721 Жыл бұрын
i can’t wait to see the upgrades. love the channel. great info and awesome explanations. can’t wait till you get a four jaw independent chuck. your run out will be nil. awesome new lathe.
@steveflorey8663
@steveflorey8663 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou Artisan. I have a Seig Micro lathe and needed to upgrade to something bigger. I got it cheap at the time and wanted something to hold clock barrel's because I only had a watch making lathe. I've not been too crazy about some of the Chinese lathes due to the low quality and therefore accuracy that you get. I have been considering getting a Myford lathe as they come up on Gumtree from time to time. Seeing your new lathe now has me rethinking which way to go, as I like doing things for motorbikes as well. Really enjoy watching your channel and look forward to the next episode.😁
@bustednuckles2
@bustednuckles2 Жыл бұрын
Very, very nice. Congratulations. I can't wait to see what you can do with it, you have a lot of talent that can be unleashed now.
@p1kto
@p1kto Жыл бұрын
thanks, its hard to find competent reviews on this lathe, very useful info
@Zt3v3
@Zt3v3 11 ай бұрын
Looks like a sweet upgrade. The QC gearbox makes getting a nice finish so much easier.
@AERuffy
@AERuffy Жыл бұрын
You didnt need to cut and solder the wires for that switch, just move one over and it would have completed the circuit, or put both terminals on one screw.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
Yeah. I dunno when your in the moment and the camera is rolling sometimes you gloss over the small stuff.
@DodgyBrothersEngineering
@DodgyBrothersEngineering Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing, but then being in front of the camera I can also understand artisanmakes blonde moment too.
@graealex
@graealex Жыл бұрын
​​@@artisanmakesnot only was it unnecessary because you could have just moved one terminal, but soldering and then tape is by far the crappiest (and least reliable) method. Solder is generally a bad idea anywhere near vibrations. Another option are screw terminals, but then you need wire ferrules. Which brings us to simply using WAGOs.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
yeah I know
@graealex
@graealex Жыл бұрын
@@artisanmakes You'll remember me in five years when the solder joint breaks and the glue on the tape will have turned back into dinosaur juice
@trevorpom
@trevorpom Жыл бұрын
The blue paint on the back of the scroll is to check backlash. It doesn't hurt the gearing in any way. It's common to see this in differential gears in cars too for the same reason..
@kabal911
@kabal911 Жыл бұрын
Awesome purchase. Congratulations, well deserved
@vincei4252
@vincei4252 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on the new machine!
@RobertLBarnard
@RobertLBarnard Жыл бұрын
Excellent points about an old-school geared head vs new-fangled variable DC motor. Regarding the head "loosening up a little bit", the manufacturer recommended running under no load for 20 minutes. I did that in both directions; 20 minutes each way. But mine's a new-fangled variable DC.
@userrnamenotavailabl
@userrnamenotavailabl 10 ай бұрын
Mate, compared to most of the machining videos on youtube, yours are really good and no BS. Coming from a qualified machinist.
@allanb1778
@allanb1778 11 ай бұрын
congrats on the new lathe. I took the plunge 2 yrs ago and got a new AL336D. great unit
@mthebone
@mthebone 9 ай бұрын
Thankyou so much ! Am looking at buying this lathe. Your review was fantastic ! Cheers
@jameshisself9324
@jameshisself9324 Жыл бұрын
So cool that you got a bigger lathe! You've done amazing things with that little one, beyond what most could have. I'm looking forward to seeing what you can do with this one! A tip- I recently picked up a 9x32 to extend my turning capabilities much like you have, and after reviewing a lot of video advice and tearing into mine I can say this- the best advice I found was to do a full teardown and clean and set it up before even first cuts. There is so much grinding dust and casting sand left in these that the spindle bearings and other components (just as you found in your chuck) will wear prematurely. Mine is resting gently on it's new bench until I complete the rebuild. 😆
@aceroadholder2185
@aceroadholder2185 Жыл бұрын
As Mike suggested, run the lathe in as directed in the manual. Then change the headstock oil and drop in a magnet or two to collect swarf. Make sure the headstock lubrication system is working as it is supposed to. The main reason small lathes have variable spindle speeds is because they are cheaper to build. Look in an old text like "Advanced Machine Work" (which is available on-line) and it gives formulas for generating the intermediate spindle speeds given the lowest and highest speeds desired. It is a logarithmic progression. The only people who have a need to have the "absolute best" speeds and feeds are tooling and production engineers who are making a quarter-million part run where every second counts and tooling costs must be minimized. In the home shop you have the time to make several lighter cuts and save your tooling and wear on your lathe. Oil is the elixir of life to your lathe. Clean and wet the bed ways with way oil (or chain saw bar oil which is also sticky and won't run off ways and gears) every day you use the lathe. If the ways look dry... they are. Stop and reach over for the oil can. Often omitted from the lube charts is the worm gear for the carriage power feed. Disconnect the power from the lathe and feel under the bottom backside of the carriage for the worm. Make sure it is clean and then smear it liberally with grease. If the lathe power feed is used daily, lube the worm monthly. Normal hobby use, lube once every six months.
@arthurmoore9488
@arthurmoore9488 Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for the information. I recently purchased my first lathe and am dealing with rust and other fun things from the previous owner. So, knowing how to keep from having to do this much work again is really helpful. Though re-building the thing is teaching me quite a bit...
@n.b.p.davenport7066
@n.b.p.davenport7066 7 ай бұрын
Does that thing sound exceptionally loud?
@Ozsmallbore
@Ozsmallbore 3 ай бұрын
@@n.b.p.davenport7066 No
@russellwall1964
@russellwall1964 Жыл бұрын
I am certain you will LOVE all the features! I also just upgraded from my SIEG C3 to one from Little Machine Shop (7550 Deluxe) and it is a whole different world.
@rowandunn2403
@rowandunn2403 Жыл бұрын
I just picked up a Lodge and Shipley AVS 2013 lathe a week or two ago and I just got it into my shop today. I have a Monarch 10ee and a Clausing 4913. I love my Monarch and Clausing but I get needing something bigger, that's why my new L&S is a 20-1/2" swing with 54" between centers 😁. My machine shop has ceased to be a hobby and is now my near full time employment. Keep up the great work I love the videos seeing you squeeze every last bit of efficiency of those small lathes and making super professional parts is always cool.
@miningsimple1924
@miningsimple1924 11 ай бұрын
Congratulations!! On the new lathe
@paul_domici
@paul_domici Жыл бұрын
Congrats! That's a beautiful machine!!!
@andrew1977au
@andrew1977au Жыл бұрын
Awesome bud, nice to see you progressing. Keep up the good work and great videos.
@MultigrainKevinOs
@MultigrainKevinOs Жыл бұрын
Congrats buddy! Those darn mini lathes are a gateway drug. Looking forward to your projects with this extra pep to really flex your skills.
@jeffreyhallam5517
@jeffreyhallam5517 Жыл бұрын
Woooo! Nice upgrade. That’s a dapper lathe. I’m a tad jealous. I doubt you’ll regret the lack of continuous variability. Between the gear head on my mill and the variac electronic control on my lathe I much prefer the gear up or down option. Less fuss in the torque range. I’m super excited to see what you do with this machine.
@Bloodray19
@Bloodray19 Жыл бұрын
I love how you over time, slowly shifted your style of content to be similar to This Old Tony, but you manage to deliver those dry, dad jokes the same amazing way, as Tony does. And in the mean time you retain your own charisma, that makes me love your videos
@Gravattack
@Gravattack Жыл бұрын
Awesome review. I've had one on my wish list for years. Tempting now while they are having the sales on
@modelengineeringadventures
@modelengineeringadventures Жыл бұрын
really pleased for you..i am sure you will make some amazing stuff on it
@ThantiK
@ThantiK Жыл бұрын
Honestly I'd check out one of the electronic lead screw packages from some of the other youtubers. Being able to set things like stops, metric/imperial threading through a couple of button presses, is extremely powerful.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
If I didn't have the gearbox I would
@paulypaulypauly8011
@paulypaulypauly8011 Жыл бұрын
@@artisanmakes You still can - I did on my al250 and it’s great! It was a lot of work of course but the end result has been one hell of an upgrade! Thanks.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
Sure but is it really necessary?
@RedDogForge
@RedDogForge Жыл бұрын
@@artisanmakes hes not wrong and its one of those type of improvements thatll have you woondering how the heck you ever lived without it.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
Yeah but I already have the gearbox to the lead screw. I don’t see why you’d need to add the ELS
@georgegeorgiev2610
@georgegeorgiev2610 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Congrats on the machine!
@zvonibab
@zvonibab Жыл бұрын
Wishing you many safe and happy hours on your new lathe!
@damngooddann
@damngooddann Жыл бұрын
Love to see it! Something about smol industrial equipment (or, almost-industrial) is just so fun and interesting. I work on Haas CNC Mills but a lathe like this is somehow more alluring to my crafty tendancies. Cheers!
@Jaws677
@Jaws677 Жыл бұрын
Awesome I have the same lathe with a few upgraded looking forward to see what you get out of it.
@NomadMakes
@NomadMakes Жыл бұрын
Congrats on the new lathe mate! Looking forward to all the videos of you upgrading it :D Cheers.
@paulthomas3782
@paulthomas3782 11 ай бұрын
Great addition to the shop enjoy.
@T1nCh0
@T1nCh0 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the future upgrade and improvements!
@DavidHerscher
@DavidHerscher Жыл бұрын
A gear head in that size!? That’s freaking awesome! Congrats, you are gonna love that gear head.
@iamnoone.
@iamnoone. Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the lathe many good chips to come.
@scroungasworkshop4663
@scroungasworkshop4663 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I have an AL350B, B for belt drive, and it’s served me well. It had wear and play in it when I purchased it from a mechanical workshop years ago but I’ve learnt to account for that. It was made in 1989 so it doesn’t have all the safety features but honestly they’re a bit of a pain in the arse. Like you, I would remove the chuck guard. The first thing we were taught back in high school, 1976, was to always remove the chuck key and that rule has served me well, touch wood. Nothing like a high velocity chuck key hitting you in the face to remind you. A couple of years ago the motor on my lathe let the smoke out, literally. After chasing around for a replacement (eBay) I couldn’t find another one that would fit so I rang Hare & Forbes / Machinery Warehouse. They explained that the motor has a non standard mount and the output shaft was longer. They also said they had a replacement for mine but it was slightly different, my motor was 1hp but the replacement was 2hp otherwise it was identical. I think it was around $450 delivered and I couldn’t get my credit card out quick enough. I figured that if I get another 30 years out of the new motor then I’m getting excellent value for money and it will see me out. I also felt the backup service from Hare & Forbes was pretty amazing too. Cheers, Stuart. Canberra.
@julias-shed
@julias-shed Жыл бұрын
DRO was the best upgrade I did for my lathe after a QCTP speeds up lot. 😀 nice to have a brand new lathe.
@colemine7008
@colemine7008 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on the new toy!!
@merkyworks
@merkyworks Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the new lathe
@demetre6756
@demetre6756 Жыл бұрын
I am very jealous! hope it does everything you want
@benstrait333
@benstrait333 Жыл бұрын
Interesting, didn't see that coming, since you just did the motor upgrade, but it'll be interesting to see you use the new capabilities👍👍👍
@richharr
@richharr Жыл бұрын
Congrats! Definitely do a dro, I thought for years that it was not needed on a lathe until I got one. Makes everything so much easier. Also drop a magnet on a stick into the gear box, theres usually a ton of metal down there from the factory
@clydebalcom3679
@clydebalcom3679 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your new acquisition.
@JustinTopp
@JustinTopp Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see what you make with this thing! I’m just starting to get back into turning on my 13x28” southbend
@lemagreengreen
@lemagreengreen Жыл бұрын
Oh congratulations, looks like a great machine.
@UzumakiGarage
@UzumakiGarage 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review mate cheers
@andrew051968
@andrew051968 11 ай бұрын
Very happy to see those carbide tools working as hard as they're supposed to.
@zebby264
@zebby264 Жыл бұрын
I am a complete newbie to machining, having bought my first ever lathe about a month ago.... and it is a used Hafco AL-250G! I will definitely be taking a keen interest in your exploits with your new AL-260G from here on in. 👍
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
That is awesome. Pretty good lathe eh :)
@neffk
@neffk Жыл бұрын
Nice. The 10x20 size lathe feels like the transition between hobby and a "real" machine. My lathe is similar but older vintage. I recently scraped the cross slide and tightly fitted gib. When you get tired of making things, you can level up by "taking your lathe to bits" and investing 80 hours in scraping and making gages, and re-fitting the cross slide. But hopefully you'll finish lots of projects before you embark on this side quest.
@uther10
@uther10 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on the New Tool Day!
@keithbaker8212
@keithbaker8212 Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to see the first project 😊
@classicbandgeek
@classicbandgeek Жыл бұрын
I like that your videos are crossing into This Old Tony territory
@Peter-sd4ht
@Peter-sd4ht Жыл бұрын
I bout one strait off the bat, so happy with mine, as will you with yours, keep your crosslide angle at 30 deg I've found it to be the most rigid, it prevented me from breaking parting Inserts lol, went through about $150 worth of inserts lol. Have fun and enjoy, hope to see more videos on the new machine.
@Chromevulcan
@Chromevulcan 4 ай бұрын
I love seeing people increase the size of their machinery. I learned my lesson with aquariums, the bigger, the better. So my first lathe, and likely the last, is a Pratt & Whitney 16x30 with a 7.5 Hp motor!
@Festivejelly
@Festivejelly Жыл бұрын
I invested in a Engine hoist for getting my equipment in my garage. Such a handy tool to have. I also made a DIY pallet mover out of some boards and trolley wheels.
@russtuff
@russtuff Жыл бұрын
Congrats!
@bhein67
@bhein67 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on the new lathe. It looks like a pretty decent machine. Looking forward to seeing you making some chips with it! Cheers from Canada
@andrewdoherty8847
@andrewdoherty8847 11 ай бұрын
I had one of this sort of lathe decades ago. I put a 1/2" (12mm) piece of metal under the left end so that coolant will flow away to the right for recycling. I also made a chuck cradle out of scrap timber to aid on/off. On another matter, I put a dab of grease on the tailstock centre to reduce heat stretch problems.
@Rockport1911
@Rockport1911 Жыл бұрын
Its like in cars, you repair, tune optimize your old junker to its full potential, but just a week later you trade it in for the new ride you should have gotten in the first place. The old lathe did great, I really enjoyed watching you do all the improvements on it :)
@subuser9627
@subuser9627 Жыл бұрын
Finally a bigger lathe, but please change the oil. You already saw the condition of the chuck. Also give all oil points a good service.
@nbrworks
@nbrworks Жыл бұрын
Great to see the new lathe. Regarding the leadscrew: the keyway is for power feeding in both axis and the threads are used only for threading. (If you want to have a look, I have a video showing the internals of a similar gearbox).
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
Then I’d have to wonder what the worm of for, because I can feel it engaging
@nbrworks
@nbrworks Жыл бұрын
The worm rides on the leadscrew (constantly). What you feel engaging should be a gear in the apron. Have a look at my gearbox 😊
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
Just watched and it’s a great break down. I’ll have so open mine up and see if it’s similar. Still doesn’t explain the third worm wheel. I know for sure that’s not driven by the keyway
@nbrworks
@nbrworks Жыл бұрын
@@artisanmakes humm, maybe have a look in the manual, the response might be there!
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
The manual is a bit vague. Ill have to find out once I find the time to get the apron pulled apart
@sparkiekosten5902
@sparkiekosten5902 Жыл бұрын
With the chuck using three bolts try moving the chuck into 3 different positions rotating the chuck. Also when you find the best setting try backing of the nuts a little and tapping the chuck in as good as you can. If you are happy with the chuck and it is running as true as you can get don't forget to centre punch the chuck to the back plate so you will always know the best position when removing and reconnecting the chuck! You probably know this already but it saves a lot of headaches. numbering the jaws to their slots on the chuck will help with removing and reinserting them as well! Enjoy the clean lathe because it will be the last time it is that clean!
@joeri5045
@joeri5045 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, good upgrade i learned a lot from your video's and brave attitude to just do it, greetings from the Netherlands, keep making mods please
@martinchabot_FR
@martinchabot_FR Жыл бұрын
I got for years a BV20 lathe (8x15), with a gear head. I changed all the spindle and gearbox bearings and it changed it completely. Runout down to 0.002 from 0.01 (SKF standard taper roller), and originally the lathe was with angular bearing. It was meant to be mounted with either angular or taper, went for taper instead. You can probably cut imperial thread by modifying the gear box input with a 127 gear somewhere, same for changing the thread list. Since the rebuild, I got myself a 1 ton lathe, 360x610 from 1950/60. definitely another level.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
Yeah for sure, I’m sure there is a ratio that I could find using a 57 or 127 tooth gear. Fingers crossed I can avoid having to :)
@seansysig
@seansysig Жыл бұрын
Congrats mate big step up!
@shaunlongden7891
@shaunlongden7891 Жыл бұрын
Nice, looking forward to some new projects on the channel
@hammahamma2750
@hammahamma2750 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing more vids with this lathe, I'm planning on getting something similar soon
@MicksWorkshop
@MicksWorkshop Жыл бұрын
It looks like it's Sanou chuck clean up week! I just did the same thing on my new 6 jaw chuck. Congrats on the new lathe.
@brianmoore1164
@brianmoore1164 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations! I have a similar sized bench lathe an I am very happy with it.
@laplantamichay
@laplantamichay Жыл бұрын
i love the TOT energy this video has
@ogaugeclockwork4407
@ogaugeclockwork4407 Жыл бұрын
Nothing like a new lathe unboxing!
@kb135
@kb135 Жыл бұрын
A Video with a HINT of This Old Tony :) *love it*
@WheatMillington
@WheatMillington Жыл бұрын
Awesome. I have the AL-320G and love it.
@goboyz8016
@goboyz8016 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding. I just did the same thing. Upgraded to Little Machineshop 7500. I couldn't be happer. LOVE it. Power CrossSlide is a MUST.
@barthanes1
@barthanes1 Жыл бұрын
Nice machine. Can't wait to see you make some magic with it.
@robertlewis4666
@robertlewis4666 Жыл бұрын
Nice one! I wish you many years of pleasure using it. I'm still at the mini lathe stage, but it's making me a fair amount of money so...... I think I lucked out with my lathe because it's nowhere near as bad as the average I have seen on YT, and am using it stock standard.
@kenlavender4233
@kenlavender4233 11 ай бұрын
best wishes with new purchase. I have same model but different label. done heaps of mods to suit me. I too found fitting chuck quite awkward but notched flange bigger which helps. latest purchase was a full set of change gears ex China. I'm happy with my set up
@robertsilberberg8526
@robertsilberberg8526 Жыл бұрын
I really hope you keep getting new lathes and upgrading them for a few years and then doing again with the next size up. 20 years from now youll have a 10 ft south bend turnado or something doing the same thing!
@FWSwart999
@FWSwart999 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the new lathe! Would love to see what upgrades you will be doing on this one! I have the same model, well slightly different but probably from the same factory in China. As said before by others, good machine but the fit and finish is a little lacking. On mine I did a quick disassemble cleanup and deburring. Only issue that I had was that the motor burned out (after the one year warranty expired) with the machine only having worked for about 4 hours runtime, this was caused by the wires at the motor terminals not being fastened correctly. As a side note to this, when replacing the motor I opted not to purchase a replacement from the distributor where I got the lathe as the pricing was ridiculous, little did I know that this 1HP motor is not a standard frame or shaft size (Standard for a 1HP is 80 Frame with a 19mm Shaft, the motor used on the lathe is a 71 Frame with a 16mm Shaft). So after purchasing the new 80 Frame motor I now have to make a new mounting plate to accommodate the different bolt hole pattern and I need to replace the motor pulley. The existing pulley has enough meat in it to bore out and cut a new keyway, but as my lathe isn’t running I can’t do this. The only replacement pulley available has a slightly (63mm vs 57mm) larger diameter so a slight increase in spindle speed will be the result. As for accessories, mine only came with the MT4 and MT3 Dead Centers. Everything else needs to be purchased separately, but the steady and follower rests and faceplate aren’t sold by the distributor. The rests will be quite easy to make on the fly, but the faceplate is a different story as I wasn’t able to find any information regarding the size etc. I have a good cast iron supplier close by so will be able to source raw stock for it. Would you be able to take some measurements and do a rough sketch of yours so I can copy it? I would really appreciate it if you could. Enjoy the new machine and I'm looking forward to seeing all the mods and new projects that will be born from this acquisition!
@brandonraggette
@brandonraggette Жыл бұрын
congrats on the new machine!
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@TheUncleRuckus
@TheUncleRuckus Жыл бұрын
Ha I knew it, after the last video I knew you were getting a new lathe lol. Congrats! With a few upgrades like a DRO & quick change tool post along with a few others you're going to have a capable little lathe on your hands. 👍👍 Btw the blue paint was for checking the mesh of the gear, looks like they left it on so the owner could see that it was meshed properly from the factory. Those chucks need a lot of deburring and edge easing to make them touch safe, you could see most of the edges were sharp. I cringed in horror when you ran your finger along the Chuck jaw a lot of times that edge is sharp AF. Looking forward to see what you have planned. 👍
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