Artists keep stealing my songs.. (and I don't know what to do about it)

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Alice Yalcin Efe - Mercurial Tones Academy

Alice Yalcin Efe - Mercurial Tones Academy

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@Alice-Efe
@Alice-Efe Ай бұрын
I was really trying my best to be kind but artist posted this video and wrote "Give me an answer" -> instagram.com/p/DA6R1S5o9sl/ so here is my answer; 1. Apprantely he sent me a demo and I refused it to release in my label (Obviously). And according to his logic, that means he can release it however he likes. In which world that gives you to right to release my tracks in your own name? I will send a demo tomorrow to Daft Punk with mashup 2 of their tracks and if they don't release it, I can release next day. I guess this logic checks out. 2. I literally tell in the video, I regularly check exx recordings to find new tracks, and I was going through their latest catalog and stumbled upon that track that way. I wouldn't know otherwise. He says because he was in Top 10 releases on indie dance. Let me tell you, I topped "top tracks" on Beatport few times and been in that list many times. I don't need your half-ass top 10 releases. 3. And he consistently misgenders me whole video. Good job, that will get you some bigot support. Keep up the good work!
@helencaddes5852
@helencaddes5852 Ай бұрын
It's astonishing to me that he is not only stealing your work outright, he is justifying what he did while misgendering you. It makes me sick and I made a comment on his post. He should take the track down immediately and apologize.
@djvane1619
@djvane1619 Ай бұрын
I have some names in my head i could call him.. but lets just stay with the fact that in every way he is disrespectful. Dont let it hit you to personal. Hes just a stupid young man without any life expierence. I mean.. if he would, he would show respect! Period. You are all about teaching people right? My advice is to teach him right from wrong by making him take the track down! And if not contact the label and that will be the end of it. Dont waste too much energy on people like this..
@ornicanmusic
@ornicanmusic Ай бұрын
If they are stealing from you I don't think they deserve to be called an artists, you are too kind )))
@qtrax100
@qtrax100 Ай бұрын
100% glory chasers more then artists
@workbook9092
@workbook9092 Ай бұрын
@@ornicanmusic not even real people but Spotify bots with human names,
@WforWrath
@WforWrath Ай бұрын
agree
@DumboSanchez
@DumboSanchez Ай бұрын
Good artists copy, great artists steal
@RealHomeRecording
@RealHomeRecording Ай бұрын
​@@DumboSanchezmy "art" is kicking thieves azzes.on camera
@Alice-Efe
@Alice-Efe Ай бұрын
Please please please don't harras any artist after watching this video. I can't stress enough. The purpose of this video is not harras anybody but just help people understand that it is not ok to copy paste other people's work and release it as yours. And at this point, I really don't know what to do and hoping that this video may help avoid situations like this in the future. 🔴UPDATE: I've talked with Exx Recordings and as suspected, they were not aware of the situation. They told me that they filled the take down request to their distributor and song will be taken down in few days.
@cyprix4019
@cyprix4019 Ай бұрын
Stop sharing Project Files.... People will not learn from it anyway if its just in their project . Your videos are awesome and if people are motivated to learn, the can follow the videos, stop it and rebuild it. Thats also where you really learn - by doing not just by seeing in the project. There are many people out there which want to go the easy way - it´s like the DJ´s who play a DJ Set from someone else and turn the buttons for show. They dont care about creating - they want the fame without the process. Shut down your Patreon, stop sharing your project files. This will reduce your income but it will protect your work a lot .
@SamyChellyDJ
@SamyChellyDJ Ай бұрын
You did well to share this video and make these statements. I hope it will encourage others to think twice. Also, you're not harassing anyone ! you did the right thing for them and for others. However, please refrain from calling them 'artists,' because if they want to be considered as such, they should at least respect one another. Don't stress you are humble enough.
@wreignone
@wreignone Ай бұрын
This happened to me! 2010, I was 1 if just 2 places who created templates. I later found out, for every template I put out that i did not release. Another producer 'obviously just learning' , was taking my templates, and just exporting them! And stealing my interlectual property! Not even editing arrangment! t pains me to think this can happen. Those who do this should be named and shamed. Its NOT okay. Anyway, I just wanted to say I stand with you, and you arent alone in this. Its very unjust. The worst thing, Is the way I found out. I was issued a copytight notice on youtube. For my OWN production template. I made a video 'what I was making 10 years ago'. And I was sent a dmca! For a template I made 11 years prior! It left a bad taste in my mouth and truly discouraged me from producing. Nowadays, I save ALL my good productions. And if someone wants to hear my music, Im afraid they will just have to wait until they see me live. Thats how it made me feel inside anyway. And, I really do keep a lot of music off social media. Not just original music. But please, be more careful with what you share. Its an unfortunate reality that there are some producers who just dont care or know how things should be. And they dont expect any response. Anyway, Wishing you well. Stay strong.
@wreignone
@wreignone Ай бұрын
The 1 thing you can do, Is release the music on a label, via beatport etc. Or, pay for copyright BEFORE you release it anywhere. Thats the only thing that helped me. 🫶
@Andrea.Zechmeister
@Andrea.Zechmeister Ай бұрын
I have the same for long years and i have that Producer dj contact and she say no no , u have stole and is not true! I have copyright make it and hav e my track back and put all tracks out from KZbin & Spotify stay safe and make by all tracks Copyrights safe best Reg Asota Music
@rebeccaschade3987
@rebeccaschade3987 Ай бұрын
Report it. Issue a takedown notice. It's copyright infringement, plain and simple. These people are doing it to get fame and success without having to put in the work.
@kol3raofficialmusic313
@kol3raofficialmusic313 Ай бұрын
Stealing is stealing and those kind of "artists" should have consequences for it.
@drindy5166
@drindy5166 Ай бұрын
100 thousand % 👊🤬👍
@ahmedeltoukhy
@ahmedeltoukhy Ай бұрын
stealing is wrong but u know what's more f'ed up ? stealing from someone who has been nothing but helpful to u. absolutely vile.
@NX2Official
@NX2Official Ай бұрын
I can understand some melodies ending up almost identical to another song as that’s just the nature of music. But to have the same synth sound and everything else along with it is just wild.
@Bthelick
@Bthelick Ай бұрын
There's so many tracks going up , the bigger DSP 's like distrokid are no longer vetting tracks. If it's remotely popular I get them taken down, because there are legal Presidents regarding those that don't act, using it to show lack of intention to protect your IP. I hear you though, it's miserable having to take time out of making music to police this. I once lost 4 months to a legal case because of bad actors.
@SullivanDnB
@SullivanDnB Ай бұрын
A flow on effect of this, Spotify is full of unlicensed remixes of popular songs that block legitimate artists from being discovered by the algorithm . Bootleg remixes have their place, but that’s what platforms like Soundcloud can be for. Unfortunately these songs get pushed quite hard by the Spotify algorithm as I suppose they’re popular with more casual listeners but it’s making it harder to get recommended new music. It would be nice to see Spotify and DSP’s doing more to prevent this
@novenvii
@novenvii Ай бұрын
awesome seein you here sir, love your content super helpful and informative
@arsansa999
@arsansa999 Ай бұрын
Precedents
@slashmytires
@slashmytires Ай бұрын
@@novenviiomg same I was just reading similar experiences in the comments and saw his name and was like omg i love this guys’ live streams very in tune w his viewers
@RecordingStudio9
@RecordingStudio9 Ай бұрын
Recently someone copied the first 1:30 minutes of my song to Spotify. My song was released 7 years ago. and now claimed copyright against my original song which is 3:40 minutes long! I contested and they declined. It should be the other way around. It's the most unethical behaviour. Nothing I could do.
@RealHomeRecording
@RealHomeRecording Ай бұрын
Spotify sided with the thief?
@WilhelmUnterharnscheidt
@WilhelmUnterharnscheidt Ай бұрын
Surprised? Lol
@riccello
@riccello Ай бұрын
Doesn't make any sense. How can latter art claim that prior art is infringing? If they see it as an infringement, chronology should sort out the rest. What did Spotify even say to this? Probably some dumb intern too.
@aimenote7468
@aimenote7468 Ай бұрын
The industry is ficked up some guys get big money as djs and the artist who spend hours making music get almost nothing
@wolfgangdevries127
@wolfgangdevries127 Ай бұрын
So what? ABBA took advantage of the whole Giorgio Moroder catalog. Just make sure you are on the same label 😊
@planetmullins
@planetmullins Ай бұрын
Theft is awful. I've been going through it 30 years. Your music is great and you do a lot for the communities of music. Thank you!
@motry
@motry Ай бұрын
It happened to Bound to Divide a few months ago, too. One guy release all the 20 tracks from the Project file (that was for also for education purposes). It's so bad that people do something like this and it is so annoying to deal with this. I feel really sorry that it happens to you because you bring so much value and absolutely don't deserve these bad people in your community 🥺I hope you can take it all down and that karma works it's wonders. Here is a digital hug for you 🤗🤗🤗
@MadelnMachines
@MadelnMachines Ай бұрын
I can’t even believe people would have the audacity to do this. So shameful.
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 Ай бұрын
It's nothing new, unfortunately. Decades old issue. The thieves deserve to be called out and publicly shamed across social media, at the very least, if Alice cannot bring legal consequences onto them.
@emilioscarano5858
@emilioscarano5858 Ай бұрын
This is absolutely disgraceful, and unfortunately not the first time it happened. Cameron from Venus Theory made a couple of videos last year about this, with lots examples of tracks released as "originals" that were really just stolen project files from other artists with a couple of tweaks here and there. In one case, a demo track for FL Studio was taken as is and released in someone's name with no changes at all. You are doing a great job with your channel and many, including me, have learned a lot thanks to you. Do what you can to protect yourself in the future
@marcelruetters
@marcelruetters Ай бұрын
this is so crazy. beside music producer i’m an 3d artist and i’ve often seen people ripping my work and pretend it’s their work. because of that i’m even afraid of posting like demos or ideas on socials or youtube. this is so fkn sad what the creative world has become.
@NickyDekker89
@NickyDekker89 Ай бұрын
I feel ya. People buying your models from marketplaces, do a chargeback and run off with your models for free and proceed to sell them to others lol
@stoneneils
@stoneneils Ай бұрын
@@NickyDekker89 Amazon has been copying the best-selling items and releasing their own branded versions for years too...if you start selling a new winning product idea...they will be your competitor on their own site within six months.
@djdarksade
@djdarksade Ай бұрын
Same! I gave up on 3d work. I used to sell 3d sculpture for 3d printing, and you know it´s something that takes a huge amount of work and years of training, but in the end i would sell a model and the .stl file would go straight to telegram groups, and t-shirt designs would end up being copied and sold by other users. Both 3d designs and t-shirt designs end up at websites like aliexpress, and they dont give a s-it about copyrights so, lost cause...
@stoneneils
@stoneneils Ай бұрын
@@djdarksade The internet is killing its users, no AI required.
@djdarksade
@djdarksade Ай бұрын
@@stoneneils I´m Ok with AI , it´s a good tool to speed up some things. My only two problems with AI are: 1 - Energy consumption, its much worse than crypto(at least more useful). 2 - People calling themselves artists(audio and visual) just because they wrote some prompt. I´ve been using AI for some of my song voices and it´s quite nice, not as good as a real human and requires some work cleaning the artifacts and results are not always satisfactory, but well, i can avoid the usual annoyance of working with some musicians (lol). I don´t think internet is killing the users, idiocracy is. Sadly we live in an era where the mediocre gets more likes, there´s no emotion just "made for the algorithms" kind of thinking, the originality is left behind in the name of fame.
@jimstar9954
@jimstar9954 Ай бұрын
I feel you ❤ I'm a producer with a label that had it's time in the sun a few years ago... i'm not even close to being well known... not close to the scale you have... and it happened to me too... You are an amazing producer/composer and your music is realy excellent! We are lucky to have someone like you sharing the process and techniques of the craft. :) It balboozle me completely to see people stealing your music like that... it's a complete lack of respect! I think you probably have a similar view on copyright as i do .... "sample, bootleg and remix as much as you like but fucking give credit!" I mean it's already hard enough to make a living out of music so we shouldn't steal from eachother! Much love and respect! ❤❤❤ Keep on being the amazing person you are! I will keep following you and your music ;)
@drbeats2169
@drbeats2169 Ай бұрын
That must be very very frustrating I've been following you for years, your content has always been insightful inspirational and all the other superlatives ! To have spent years crafting and honing your skills for these flakes to just copy it and call it their own😡🤬😡 Honestly I wouldn't blame you pulling your content down, it'd be a shame as learning from tour work inspires a lot of your followers...but you have to think of yourself and protect your own interests...no matter what you decide to do - i will keep supporting you as I'm sure many of your followers will too ❤
@AnthonyWoodruffe
@AnthonyWoodruffe Ай бұрын
Unfortunately there are just people like this. I've been dealing with IP theft for a decade. Just contact your lawyer let them deal with it. The artist will have to pay damages, the track will be removed, they will have learned not to be a nasty person.
@felixnusser2094
@felixnusser2094 Ай бұрын
Feels like someone did not understand what making music is all about.
@stoneneils
@stoneneils Ай бұрын
Maybe rappers had it right all along...if every one of our songs is about us even if people steal it our name is in the lyrics, :)
@tommayo3212
@tommayo3212 Ай бұрын
I like to listen other artists out there trying to produce electronic music. But even if I look at the project files, I don't use other peoples samples and tracks in my own works. My music might suck, but I made it myself -- with inspiration from generous artists like yourself, who help us to grow and become better producers. Thank you for your generosity.
@kelvinfunkner
@kelvinfunkner Ай бұрын
good for you for speaking out about this!!! it's literally a musical pandemic these days and needs to be addressed!!!! only consolation is that it just confirms that your music is incredible and people want it!
@rodrigocapra
@rodrigocapra Ай бұрын
That's so sad Alice...sorry for that. =/ I believe even around those sample packages there're people "releasing" songs without doing anything... maybe if we can squeeze the only good thing about that is you are a reference and if some bad intentionally people are stealing your work, it probably means it's because is a decent one. Also, very sad to see you in this mood..in your videos you are always so friendly and happy. Don't let that affect yourself too much... I hope you manage to find a solution
@fakshen1973
@fakshen1973 Ай бұрын
I can't imagine taking credit for someone else's work. I've deleted my own project file when it startwd sounding like another artist's work. Damn you, Peaches... F' The Pain Away is just too good.
@razorgarf
@razorgarf Ай бұрын
Distributors should have a service that compare songs to yours and find copies
@DJ_Go_Hard
@DJ_Go_Hard Ай бұрын
they do its called content id problem was they released the files so people straight up stole it.
@MarcosRobertoDosSantosJF
@MarcosRobertoDosSantosJF Ай бұрын
This already exist. Content ID from KZbin is an example. The stem separation tool that is very popular right now (inside DAWs, plugins and audio editors) is a direct effect from the similar ID system from Deezer. Every content distribution company has something like that.
@stoneneils
@stoneneils Ай бұрын
Nah. section 230 has just got to get deleted from the lawbooks. Platforms already censor/control us...ban us..why should they a free ride from lawsuits? The legislation was put in place to grow the internet..well..its grown up. Time to make platforms liable in court for what they allow users to post.
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 Ай бұрын
@@MarcosRobertoDosSantosJF Awesome stuff. Sweeping the filter on an analogue synth is grounds for a copyright strike because of that, I've overheard.
@sebastiandelajara2798
@sebastiandelajara2798 Ай бұрын
It is okay to do this kind of videos… it is a way for release frustration, stress and express what you feel!!! You are a genious and even one of my favorite producer ever!!! I always buy your tracks in Beatport and use it in my own sets cause you deserve the support!!! Keep going and yes, tell us more of your feelings when sth bother you…. No one expect you being perfect. Even if we don’t know each other: I love you❤ and I love how have you grown.. you inspire me
@reorderdj
@reorderdj Ай бұрын
That is awful! 😢 Same happened to me and funny story I found out after getting a copyright claim on my own template video😮 Some People would do anything to get “famous”. The other day I found a track on beatport that sounded exactly like AI rendered tracks on suno. People probably forgot music is not about fame, fame is just unfortunate side effect.
@michaelvandersteen7188
@michaelvandersteen7188 Ай бұрын
A true artist puts his or her soul in their creation. It is not just applying techniques. It is putting in your emotion, your feeling and entire being. True artist do not pursue money or fame. Fakers (most of music producers today) are pursuing fame and money… they are not artist. Just *ssholes.
@prestigious5s23
@prestigious5s23 Ай бұрын
Times have changed! Managers are booking DJs based on social media followers rather than talent. The problem, but is good for promoters, is that it guarantees people will turn up. I know many promoters who booked incredible trance Djs during the 90s for gigs, only to have a handful of people turn up. They would lose so much money its crazy. Nowadays, you can avoid that by booking a faker!
@workbook9092
@workbook9092 Ай бұрын
@@michaelvandersteen7188not even people but Spotify bots with human names, using a program which automatically reupload older music
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 Ай бұрын
morons, too Seeking fame and fortune in music is not very clever these days. They likely also don't know the right way to try to do it.
@HenningUhle
@HenningUhle Ай бұрын
Well, I had situation with my personal blog which was even more frustrating. Websites offer their content via RSS, so you can read it in News Readers. The same with my blog. And I came across the situation that some random dude iported the whole content of my blog into a different website and sold it as his own content. The only way to stop this was to involve a lawyer as the dude was absolutely unreasonable. I know it's annoying, but I think the only points you can do is talk to the dude who is stealing and if no action contact your lawyer.
@richardjeroense1940
@richardjeroense1940 Ай бұрын
Sorry this happened Alice, please keep up the excellent work and keep sharing as most of us followers learn so much from you and we don’t steal. It is a tribute to your quality that some people apparently steal it, but surely they will feel embarrassed.
@realmsland
@realmsland Ай бұрын
Alice, you are an inimitable innovator & powerful infinite waterfall of creativity,, ppl like this won't get very far bc they are scared of their own lack, so steal to fill an empty space they live with. Even though this is 🤢 to see, they only fill that space with the misery of knowing they didn't really do anything but steal + 0 credit. Not mastery, like yourself. 🕯️💜 🦋⭐
@tonys3976
@tonys3976 Ай бұрын
I'm very much an amateur, and still have much to learn, but someone even lifted one of my tracks as-is from KZbin, and got it released as their own work. I wrote to the label who said that they would send any royalties to me, but I didn't really expect anything to happen. Things is, it wasn't a great track, so I've no idea why they took it. I've decided to try to ignore it, but it still does annoy me.
@roberttodd2414
@roberttodd2414 Ай бұрын
disgusting and shameful behaviour by them, we cannot now even know if an artist is really an artist and this is killing music scenes
@meteorheartofficial
@meteorheartofficial Ай бұрын
i personally create because it gives me satisfaction and a sense of identity, so i dont see the appeal of stealing others work. The thing is if they have a platform where they are making money off your work, with a good following, you have the right to sue them for reparations and are probably not the only one theyre stealing from.
@alecmartin29
@alecmartin29 Ай бұрын
I just want to say thank you for everything you do for the producer community. You don't need to, but people take advantage of that and that is messed up! I hope your viewers hear you and if where a true fan would respect her wishes.
@castleaudio
@castleaudio Ай бұрын
I've heard of artists just releasing the most part of a demo track from a sample pack and they came along with it pretty successful.
@mony3123
@mony3123 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing all these tips and techniques with us. So disappointed that some idiots do this kind of thing. In any case there will always be cheaters and those who respect the process. the content you offer is so qualitative and serves music and artists enormously while some serve humanity badly
@KitKalvert
@KitKalvert Ай бұрын
You are sharing your work and there are people out there with no talent and self respect who will do this. The industry is a joke. Don't feed them
@praisethesun2665
@praisethesun2665 Ай бұрын
This guy is one of my favorite music inspiration keep going f the haters
@chejoseofficialTV
@chejoseofficialTV Ай бұрын
I know we chatted on this in IG already, glad you’re bribing attention to this. Content creators try and help ppl but unfortunately a few bad eggs ruin things for the rest of the community. Glad this got sorted for you Alice ☺️
@daemonchills
@daemonchills Ай бұрын
Take action as its totally disrespectful to all creatives to allow them in any shape or form and devalues music and there's already enough of that in the world.
@roembaur
@roembaur Ай бұрын
Your generosity and artistry are next level. You're putting so much good in the world, I'm sorry you have to do this as a part of it, but I'm grateful you shared. I hope for your continued success!
@Nattandjmusic
@Nattandjmusic Ай бұрын
If someone copies you they can only be as great as you are. Haters and copycats are actually giving you energy by showing "here, something worthy of attention!" Unless they are actually taking a piece of your pie, take it as fuel and keep going,!
@HerrPapa
@HerrPapa Ай бұрын
The thief wrote on instagram: "The meaning of “stealing” is to take something without the knowledge of the owner".... so since you knew about it it's not a theft... yeah, maybe that is even right. Then we should call it robbery, right? And that's even worst!
@wesleyschauble
@wesleyschauble Ай бұрын
This isn’t ok. This artist will continue to do this until they face repercussions. I would protect your own brand and image by seeking these tracks are removed from Beatport, Spotify, KZbin, etc. It will only create further headache down the road the longer they are live. Thank you for always sharing your technical knowledge with us. Been a fan & supporter for many years. ❤
@capturejay3079
@capturejay3079 Ай бұрын
You Need To Do It! It is not good to let them go with it.
@NoPostal
@NoPostal Ай бұрын
In early 2000s I sat with a label who was interested in signing me for my album. I refused the deal and they had a new band release my album and they got famous. I complained and got taken to court and, because all I had was a tape and the studio recorded it all professionally I got in small trouble on top of it. I quit music for 20 years. I just restarted recently.
@prestigious5s23
@prestigious5s23 Ай бұрын
Are you allowed to disclose the band?
@NoPostal
@NoPostal Ай бұрын
@@prestigious5s23 No. Thats what I got in trouble for. I didnt really get in hard trouble I was just forced to shut up. idk if that expires or not. They didnt get majorly famous just sorta famous.
@makrowelle
@makrowelle Ай бұрын
Name and shame...
@NoPostal
@NoPostal Ай бұрын
@@makrowelle lol. I am not allowed to. That is what I got in trouble for doing. Maybe it expires or something idk. They are not like massively famous but they are kinda famous. To be fair their recording was way better than mine. I learned a lesson for sure. I was mostly surprised that a band would be cool with faking something like that. Thats why I said something here. I feel it is the same. People are willing to just pretend like that. Blows my mind.
@ivansoto9723
@ivansoto9723 Ай бұрын
@@NoPostal Oof. You signed an NDA.
@popwa6977
@popwa6977 Ай бұрын
In Europe you have SACEM which protects artists for their copyright...
@FireMoon42
@FireMoon42 Ай бұрын
Solidarity, you're an incredibly generous spirit.
@bobbyrinehart1299
@bobbyrinehart1299 Ай бұрын
This is such a bummer. It sucks. I am so sad this happens. I guess when you're the best in the class, everyone wants to copy off of you.
@Chilldeck
@Chilldeck Ай бұрын
So sad to see that people have no morals at all. Love all your content and your music is amazing. Thank you for everything 😊
@Peter-gu9ph
@Peter-gu9ph Ай бұрын
Just want to say how much I respect the fact that you are speaking up about this! Thank you - you are handling a difficult situation with a lot of class...
@Lot
@Lot Ай бұрын
Omg the way you let us study how you build your projects and having trust for your fans is the best way I learnt how to produce. Please don’t stop it helps so many people.
@hirnzircus
@hirnzircus Ай бұрын
I understand you, and i guess many musicians have the same experience. The trick is, just don't take it personally. If you can manage to see it from another perspective, it becomes even a honer. Your stuff is so good, that other "musicians" want to sound like you. It is a honer, and it's the proof, that your music is great. :) So go on to play, to share and to inspire others to create good music. Thank you for that 🖤
@bjornvendevijvere
@bjornvendevijvere Ай бұрын
That really sucks.. but there’s allways gonne people like that. But i understand this must be really frustrating especially if you are trying to educate people.. Don’t let it get to you. Keep up the good work!
@Luka_Griffin
@Luka_Griffin Ай бұрын
Hi Alice! I'm sorry this happened to you. You're being very kind to this person. As others have commented, this is stealing. It's lazy. It's what some people are doing by using AI-generated music and claiming to have produced it. In your place, I would claim my rights. As for the files, you're very generous to share them, but you don't have to. I've watched most of your videos, including the ones you published years ago. You share a wealth of knowledge in them. I'm a beginner producer, and I learn enough from watching videos such as yours and experimenting on my DAW. The files may be useful, but they're not essential. Anyone who pays attention to your videos, and those of others, can learn how to produce music. As a beginner, I'd rather know that you're protecting your rights and avoiding situations like this one, than to have access to your files.
@jellycoding
@jellycoding Ай бұрын
This has been a problem forever. You would have every right to tell them to pull it down. But you can't waste all your energy looking for people who do this. That's why I think you should look at it different. In this case I think you should tell the label that it is a great song (even if it is good or bad) but you want to be in the credits. If you are you will be happy for them to keep the track up and if it would be a hit you want some share. That would spread you name, and let the group that enjoys the song be able to have it and probably humble the "artist". But the biggest win in this way is that you save a lots of frustration with this mindset. Because no matter how much frustration you waste on it there will always be a new song that is more or less inspired or ripped from you.
@danceswith7wolves
@danceswith7wolves Ай бұрын
For smaller artists I think this advice can make sense
@stoneneils
@stoneneils Ай бұрын
This is a major issue and nobody in the political arena is even talking anything about it. Stealing..interprolation..these platforms are killing aritsts because they can't be sued. Section 230 has GOT to go.
@mohandesparsa4086
@mohandesparsa4086 Ай бұрын
You are one of the best people who i learned a lot from I am really sorry to hear it but do not let it affect you, you are real artist and this kind of artist could not become really huge and successful❤
@frog-uj3sx
@frog-uj3sx Ай бұрын
I’m sorry you’re going through this. I have learned so much from you about music production; hope the situation improves going forward.
@steveedwards4495
@steveedwards4495 Ай бұрын
I'm just a newbie who collects synths but loves your work and channel. Protect your art, let the law work for you. The reason your work is taken is because its just so good. Carry bringing happiness to everyone hon.
@Erulilum
@Erulilum Ай бұрын
I really appreciate you sharing your project files. I like your style of music and it helps me practice and play around so I can learn techniques and structure to utilise in my own projects. I’d never even consider just making slight changes and claim it as my own, that’s scummy.
@TheGARCK
@TheGARCK Ай бұрын
And they don't even have the decency to credit you and assign a percentage, which is so easy to do now. Shameful.
@garrysmout6095
@garrysmout6095 Ай бұрын
By ‘giving away’ your material for free, and then hoping its use is not abused, shows what a total sweetheart you are, naïve but still a sweetheart! The only thing I can think of is to reinforce the contract by having the files encrypted and a pin is needed - by requesting the pin the user is again warned/informed of the copyright issues and uses of etc as well as leaving a ‘paper’ trail. The other possibility is the files are of low quality and good enough for training and learning but not for release.
@Dowden_Official
@Dowden_Official Ай бұрын
So unfortunate people do this and try to get away with it.. Sorry this keeps happening. It happened to me recently with an artist that I was a really big fan of, and he blatantly took my track and stole multiple bits from it. I contacted the label and distributor and basically, they said I can take legal action but it won't be worth the $0.55 in royalties.
@ArtEntity
@ArtEntity Ай бұрын
I blame that artist for being unoriginal, but if i were u, i would just LET GO of all stresses when u share those project files. People gonna steal it and leak it so u cant stress
@Mcktorres
@Mcktorres Ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that. I've learned a lot from your content, and it has been a great starting point for my musical project, where I'm experimenting with house music and the sounds of my country (mainly tropical house). I just wanted to take this opportunity to thank you and offer some encouragement for your teaching journey.
@viviennepetrakis3825
@viviennepetrakis3825 Ай бұрын
I'm afraid to distribute or even make music, 'cause anyhow it would sound like already known by somebody - let it be a a small slice, self played or edited - I don't feel very well at all. Let it be the "Four On The Floor" Beat - I didn't invent it.... 😂
@roderiechrivas607
@roderiechrivas607 Ай бұрын
I think that regardless of the reason behind stealing your songs; keep sharing, but stuff you won't use, or only 8 to 16 bar loops. In the end you won't run out of ideas, they do. Luv U girl.❤
@cathleenkleinert
@cathleenkleinert Ай бұрын
Girl, this must be so annoying.. good that you are speaking up and spreading awareness. I keep my fingers crossed for you that you don’t have to deal with this again
@hypnoticatrance
@hypnoticatrance Ай бұрын
One good thing if ppl steal your track or parts of it is, that you really made a nice track. Otherwise ppl would steal nothing. But yes, sure, I also dont like if ppl steal stuf from my tracks and claim it as own. At least, they could just ask to do it, and maybe i say yes :)
@SyrshaStudios
@SyrshaStudios Ай бұрын
That’s so cool of you to share your project files for educational purposes ❤ have you thought about going down the road of beat licensing? That way you could lease your instrumentals to be used by other artists while being credited properly and paid royalties from their releases, The project files would be an added bonus in that case 🤔 congrats on making art everyone wants to steal! 😅
@thisdudeisadude
@thisdudeisadude Ай бұрын
Sorry man this happens, and also thank you for what you are doing for the producers around the world.
@TophtheSmith
@TophtheSmith Ай бұрын
Giddum! Also, especially if you're releasing this stuff, you either have the copyright, or the label that signed it does. It can get fixed
@JulianQuack-f7o
@JulianQuack-f7o Ай бұрын
Head up! The people who steal tracks are horrible, but shouldn't dictate the way you are. You have inspired me with your courses, tuturials and the files you shared. Please keep all the good you are doing up. Have an amazing day writing music! ❤
@Mark-ec3lp
@Mark-ec3lp Ай бұрын
Screw them, take them to court! Would you be okay with a stranger breaking into your studio and stealing your equipment? No. So don't let scumbags steal your ideas either, those are worth more than your studio gear. I used to run two record independent electronic dance music labels in the 90's and copyright theft was dealt with through legal channels; I was brutal with anyone who tried to rip off my releases and didn't care how sorry they were one confronted. To me it's like stealing money out of my bank account. I think the music 'business' has been destroyed thanks to the internet, the fact that files can be shared in seconds to any mobile smart device encourages piracy, and with no deterrent for anyone who steals music it will remain the same until/if anything is done to prevent this. I think the internet is one of the worst things to ever happen in so many ways.Yes there are some positives, but in general it's a toxic place where people have become narcissists and will do anything for 'fame' and music, software and film companies have all suffered thanks to losers ripping them off and sharing files. If there was actual punishment for music theft, like there is for pretty much anything else a person steals, then I'd be running another label the day it was announced, until then it's not worth getting out of bed for jokes like Spotify who pay insulting amounts to musicians and producers.
@stark1739
@stark1739 Ай бұрын
Good artist copy, great artist steal. -Picasso They just didn’t do it right.
@tychohallsen
@tychohallsen Ай бұрын
I agree and love this comment. They stole the work, not the ideas, as ideas are free and can't be owned.
@bobrobertsNotUrBob
@bobrobertsNotUrBob Ай бұрын
Its happened to me before, and some a person contacted me telling me someone was uploading as their own work (I would not have known otherwise). theft is theft and they know what the are doing. Before posting a Take down, send a mail saying you work for a massive festival and would like them to play, $100 000 etc etc , get them all excited and keep them on the hook for a while..get their all their info etc and report them for fraud to all the streaming services
@unem2
@unem2 Ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that, Alice. What a shame. Some people are really the worst.
@adamfullerton8651
@adamfullerton8651 Ай бұрын
Just keep doing what you are doing - you are amazing!
@panyax16
@panyax16 Ай бұрын
i remember when i found the special two-bars part of my first officially released track '2012 into the big artists tune in 2014. they used that part to make the drop for them track and on. i must confess i was happy about it, because those days i played them tracks as the dj and that proved to me my musical ideas work not only for myself.
@manuelramos2933
@manuelramos2933 Ай бұрын
I have learned a lot from your projects! Either on structure or sound design! Learning how to produce is a long and challenging road that you need to enjoy! Success will not come overnight, specially if you are stealing others producers credit!
@dannyrodriguez4162
@dannyrodriguez4162 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately there are so many shady people out there, I personally want to thank you for your videos and your content and sharing with us , I would make them take it down!
@xanderpills
@xanderpills Ай бұрын
Good old "Is sampling someone else's work stealing or not"-discussion. There is a genre called hip-hop which might stand as an example of unsolicited use of audio material and unpaid royalties. I would say that this sort of thing is usually irritating until you hear one of your orig. compositions on the radio (like what happened with e.g. Timbaland vs Janne Suni-case on the Nelly Furtado track), then it should become a legal matter and you be compensated well.
@dhst76
@dhst76 Ай бұрын
If they’re stealing from you, you have to see it as a huge compliment. You must be doing something great if they want to be you. On the other hand, ethically it’s very wrong to steal someone else’s art and make money out of it, without sharing and give credit to the original artist. And what does the Absolut wodka woman thinks about her voice being used without permission?
@teknetron
@teknetron Ай бұрын
Wow... I'm sorry this has happened to you! Seems to be pretty common across multiple industries with people trying to get ahead without putting in the work themselves. I hope you do a takedown request on this person or they may just continue to do this towards other artists.
@teknetron
@teknetron Ай бұрын
I see you did file the takedown! ❤
@gtnomusicchannel
@gtnomusicchannel Ай бұрын
oh bless you Alice... this is so disappointing! you helped and helping so many bedroom studio artists like me
@johngraham9878
@johngraham9878 Ай бұрын
Alice - you are the best! And it just kills me that this is happening to you. I'm a cover guy and have done maybe 75 covers - and every single one I have purchased mechanical and streaming licenses for, and never had a take down or a complaint. It really jacks me when people don't give credit where credit is due. You're totally justified in posting this. Of course the vast majority of your subscribers respect you and would never do this. I have gotten so many great tips and learned so much from your advice and demonstrations. So I think you just have to request the takedowns when you come across the copies. As for sharing your tracks, I wouldn't blame you for stopping it - but it would be such a shame. May God bless you and all you do.
@iookem
@iookem Ай бұрын
When you start to be copied, it's a "kind of recognition" of the quality of your own creations. Your passion is to share part of your creations. Others are content to copy stupidly. Difficult, in this case, to prevent profiteers from using your work without compensation. Of course, it's a shame. But this is the world we live in. Thank you for sharing part of your work as you do on your KZbin channel. 👍
@Riko-Mixco
@Riko-Mixco 27 күн бұрын
Dear Alice. I absolutely love your videos and the spirit of sharing that makes you post them. For a beginner like me, it is really a valuable support that allows me to understand music and how to produce it nowadays. Seeing how you manage to give substance to your own productions is really fascinating. But pushing sharing to the point of offering to download the natives seems a little too far-fetched to me, and perhaps even slightly counter-productive in terms of training. The goal is to encourage those who want to produce to challenge themselves. They must work (more or less hard) to produce their own production by following the good advice you offer. They must develop their own skills by practicing the error and correction process themselves, which will allow them to master their art.. By offering a finished work, they can, of course, perhaps, discover things that were not said in the videos or misunderstood by a reverse engineering process (in my opinion impossible to do if you do not already master production 100%), but above all you have little effort to make to take hold of a work that you will never know how to create. This is where your underperformance in terms of training lies in my opinion. Music production is like all forms of art the result of hard work and a long-term will that disappears when you have a work that is already finished. You go far beyond the scope of help by offering natives. To learn, you have to fight against yourself, push yourself, surpass yourself to appropriate a know-how.
@blknblu
@blknblu 23 күн бұрын
Unfortunately this is what happens when you try and help people. Been watching your videos for a few months now and find the really helpful with techniques I’ve not tried, so keep up the good work. With regards to the bad egg, I’d definitely be contacting the label and explaining that their music has breached copyright.
@bryan-un9zd
@bryan-un9zd Ай бұрын
You are the first person I have ever paid for when it came to learning how to write Trance Music. I love your sincerity and you remind me of myself as I watch you stare at your screen when you completely forget that you're recording yourself. I think I may have this track on my liked list on Spotify or I have actually purchased it on Beatport. I have no advice for you but I have nothing but praise for who you are and what you have accomplished. I'm 46 years old and have spent 12 years of my life in a US Florida Prison for literally nothing at all. I can tell you that I am severely jealous of what you have accomplished in your life and just as I started to watch this video it actually brought me to tears. The sad thing is. If you want to share and have people pay to learn they have to get into what it is they are hearing. Just keep being your beautiful self and if you can prove that these people are stealing from you then do what you can for your royalties and make sure everyone in the Universe knows that they are a fake artist and suck as a human being. I can see how much this upsets you and I love that you are sharing this. I believe we all fear being connected to the cloud when writing our own songs and are all waiting for the day this happens to us. I never ever comment on stuff so this is twice you have affected my life to the point of my doing things I never do. How awesome is that?! Lol......Because of you I decided to just invest my money in software plug ins and such. I have owned many synths and keyboards. I have finally seen the light and am now starting to make headway in my writing, all because of you. I hate to say I bought the Beginner Lessons from you but that information alone was worth every penny I spent on it. I took away a few things from those lessons. I think this video will connect with so many people who compose their music on a computer volatile to the eyes of spying hackers and this video alone, I pray, makes up for some of your pain and loss here. Fight back and show these dishonorable people that none of us will tolerate the stealing of our hard written music and it only comes to nothing but embarrassment in the end for those who would do such a thing. You're an amazing song writer and I might always be jealous of what you have accomplished. I know that all things in life are a lot more difficult than they seem from the outside but as an intelligent 46 year old American who has adored trance music his entire life, who has the best taste in music in the universe out of any who are alive, I just want to take this time to let you know how much you have affected my life and how deeply sorry I am that you are going through this. I believe it will end up bringing you more strength and joy in the end and hopefully even more success than had they not stolen from you in the first place. God can take all things that are negative and turn them around for your good. Just know that reward is coming for you and I pray that you read this and take it to heart that Not One single soul on this planet has made me pull out my credit card to buy something other than the creators of FL Studio and other plugins for the creation of music. You. YOU DID THAT in my life. And yes I am that important lol!
@roykilling2496
@roykilling2496 Ай бұрын
That sucks ... I've been inspired by musicians and found myself doing up something from scratch that sounds really similar. That's bad enough, I don't 'release' anything like that, it just remains on my drive. But to use someone's actual project files, or stems, is egregious.
@freffrey3772
@freffrey3772 Ай бұрын
You could effectively encode signatures across your samples and tracks, in frequencies above or below audible ranges (or both). Then, if you are questioning whether a track is using your samples/tracks you will be able to discern whether it is a direct rip. It could be by pitching up and down, modifying volume channels, directly reading the amplitude values of the wave formed to map to your name or some kind of personally unique thing, and so on and so on you get the idea. You could do all kinds of things :)
@piotr_jurkiewicz
@piotr_jurkiewicz Ай бұрын
Artists don't just steal stuff. Those people aren't artistists. Those people are frauds. I'm happy that you have a platform so any legal fight will be WAY easier. Stay strong 💪
@sagejr9295
@sagejr9295 Ай бұрын
sorry to hear this and happy it looks like it is going to resolve soon! would You ever go over Your DJ process? preparation and philosophy / usb navigation while playing?
@_adamsteiner
@_adamsteiner Ай бұрын
Hi Alice, I just wanted to take a moment to express my gratitude for the incredible work you do. Your talent and dedication really shine through in every project. It's easy to forget that people often prioritize their own success above all else, but your commitment to helping others is truly inspiring. Please don’t give up on your passion. Remember why you started-your ability to uplift and support artists is making a real difference. Keep pushing forward; you’re achieving what you set out to do. Thanks for everything!
@situtv
@situtv 15 күн бұрын
Appreciate your positive attitude.
@WBradleyRobbins
@WBradleyRobbins Ай бұрын
Alice, I love your work. Don't let the thieves break you. Maybe only release partial project files, or only project files for songs you do not intend for release.
@DreamyDawnMusic
@DreamyDawnMusic Ай бұрын
the scene today sadly! Happens all the time! Im against covers tbh. Too much of this shit honestly! Sorry to hear this Alice! It's not like back in the days where people like hip hop artists, at least sampled but in a genius and subtle yet creative way (some still do today) and they even get them cleared most of the time
@Robnoice
@Robnoice Ай бұрын
Its yours and yours only! U give them the finger and they take the whole arm.... Dont let this go make them take down the release, you are the rightfully owner of this tracks. On other notes....I really like this channel. Your tricks and tips is very usefull , KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!
@OperculumAudio
@OperculumAudio Ай бұрын
I like to goto the beach to feed the Seagulls from time to time and when I do, savenger birds come and eat as well. It's just how it goes. It doesn't stop me from feeding the Seagulls, but I've had to learn to not get upset about the "others" who come to steal. I hope you keep feeding the good people of the producer community as they love your work. Don't let the Pigeons and Crows of the world stop you. The greater you shine your light, the greater the love that comes your way. (Don't mind the crows)
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